under one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> And I ask for a moment of silence. >> Edmonds? Present. >> Garrison? >> Here. >> [clears throat] >> Gunther? >> Here. >> Harkins? Kasa?
Kerlin? >> Here. >> Sartorio? >> Here. >> Wright? >> Here. >> Howe? >> Here. >> You have a quorum. >> Okay. Need a motion to approve the minutes. >> So moved. >> Second. >> [clears throat] >> I have a motion for the minutes from
June 22nd regular and executive and the retreat on July 11th. Any questions, comments, or corrections? >> [clears throat] >> Edmonds? >> Yes. >> Garrison? >> Yes. >> Gunther? >> Yes. >> Kerlin? >> [clears throat] >> Yes. >> Sartorio?
>> Yes, abstain from June 22nd regular and executive. >> Wright? >> Yes. >> Howe? >> Yes. >> [clears throat] >> Bless you, Kerlin. >> Thank you. Uh there are no special presentations or committee reports, so I will move to
anyone board member reports anyone wishing to share. >> Okay. >> None? This time I'll open the meeting to the public. Anyone wish to speak on agenda items only? >> [clears throat] >> Okay, seeing none.
Information items are listed. Move to business agenda action items. >> Before I make the motion, I just want to know on B-21 uh the agenda items should read fiscal year 27, not fiscal year 26 in that last sentence. With that being said, I'd like to move
items 1 through 21 on pages 2 through 5. >> Make a motion to move B1 through B21, pages 2 through 5. >> Second. >> All right. B1 through B21 has been moved and seconded. Any questions or comments on these business items, Mr. Carter?
>> Yes. I [clears throat] please would like an explanation um of what B13 is saying. I don't understand it is what I'm trying to say to you. >> One of our trainers is going out on a family medical leave for 3 months. So,
we need to hire a certified registered trainer. This is the organization that will be providing the service. >> Well, my question is $10,000 per month. How many hours does that person work?
What is the hourly rate? I mean, I don't know, you know. >> The trainers average 3 to 4 hours 6 days a week >> Okay. >> um with additional hours provided for football games on Friday nights or
Saturdays and with some additional hours with games on Saturdays as well. Um it is it is probably a higher dollar amount than we pay. However, to to find
substitute services, um the um athletic directors went and found two entities that were willing to provide services. This was the closer and also actually happened to be the more cost effective.
>> Okay, thank you. And B17, could you clarify that for me? >> Um On Time Sports prints shirts for schools, logos, etc. on it. Um they
collect fees when the shirts are sold, they are donating the profits back to the building. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Any other questions or comments? >> [clears throat] >> Okay. >> Garrison? >> Yes.
>> Gunther? >> Yes. >> Curley? >> Yes. >> Sartorio? >> Yes. >> Wright? >> Yes. >> Edmunds? [clears throat] >> Yes. >> Hoke? >> Uh staying on B3, everything else, yes. >> Motion is approved.
>> Transportation? >> Items 1 through 28 can be found on pages 5 through 11. >> I move to turn transportation T1 through T28. >> Second. >> Okay, T1 through T28 have been moved and seconded. Any questions or comments on these transportation [clears throat]
items? >> Gunther? >> Yes. >> Curley? >> Yes. >> Sartorio? >> Yes. >> Wright? >> Yes. >> Edmunds? [clears throat] >> Yes. >> Garrison? >> Yes. >> Hoke? >> Yes. >> Motion is approved. >> Education items?
I move E1 through E7. >> Second. >> Okay, E1 through E7 have been moved and seconded. Any questions or comments on these education items? >> Curley? >> Yes. >> Sartorio? >> Yes. >> Wright? >> Yes. >> [clears throat] >> Edmunds?
>> Yes. >> Garrison? >> Yes. >> Gunther? >> I vote yes on all except uh the uh policy and regulation 5516. I vote no on that. >> Hoke? >> Yes. >> Motion is approved.
>> Personnel items. All right. >> I move >> Okay, go ahead. >> I move P1 through P12. >> Second. >> Tom, we have a correction or removal. >> Uh yeah, P5.1 there was a mistake made in the baseline
calculation. So, I will be resubmitting that at August. P5.1 The individual will be moving forward. We uncovered a mistake in the original number that was utilized in constructing
that number this afternoon. >> So, you're assuming it'll go higher? >> No, it's actually should go a little bit lower. >> [clears throat] >> Any questions or comments on these [clears throat] personnel items?
P1 through P12 with questions at number >> Vittorio? >> Yes, I recuse myself though from P1 number three. Yes, everything else. >> Wright? >> Uh yes, uh recuse from P8 number two.
>> [clears throat] >> Edmonds? >> I believe I have made the requisite I made the asked requisite questions to get the information to find out whether I need to recuse or not and I don't. So, yes to all. >> [laughter] >> Garrison?
>> Yes. >> Gorman? >> Yes. >> Carlile? >> Yes. >> How? >> Yes. >> Motion is approved. >> I blew it. I had a lot more alliteration in there. I couldn't I couldn't spit it out. >> You took the long road, dude. >> I was trying to get I had a a more alliteration planned. >> It's [clears throat] like you you put in
the like no tolls in the uh >> It's like uh >> Yeah, it was like requisite request, required. To re- >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Um I I blew it. >> Received a I've received a couple of questions from board members, one of which was in my
my superintendent's report tonight. Anyway, one which was not. The one which was not, just a reminder to everyone, B21, those are not our dollars. Those are flow-through dollars from the state of New Jersey because we because it exists
within our district, we provide that service to them. It's not actually removing money from from that would have been ours otherwise. Um okay. Um first off, I want to start last uh
Friday night and Saturday afternoon, summer theater had their performance at Oakcrest High School. Um I went Saturday afternoon, thought the kids did a great job. It was a chorus line, which strange as it would
sound, I must be one of those movies that was on HBO three times a week in the '80s and '90s. [laughter] I loved the movie. Um the kids did a great job with it. Um the energy was good.
Um the sound was better with fewer uh issues or concerns than we have had in the past with Oakcrest. We are still dialing it in. They are coming back and still continuing to do service because I've expressed we're still not satisfied with the Oakcrest auditorium, but I made
it through an entire show without the little heartbeat on my Apple Watch beating once because it had become elevated because people were just mysteriously dropping out. So, everybody was on, all the mics worked, everything [clears throat] everything was good, but the kids did a great job. Um it was a
fun show for the summer. Um not a ton of people there on a Saturday afternoon, but Saturday at 1:00, I mean, it was 86° and there wasn't a cloud in the sky. They said Friday night they had about 200 to 215 220 people there, which is pretty good
for a Friday night summer show. So, shout out to everybody that was involved. Again, it was hosted at Oak Crest. The uh Oak Crest drama teacher, she took the lead this summer. Um, this week is Ed Council week.
Um, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, all administrators, building and district in the district are together for about 7 or 8 hours. I've got an agenda that we we build, we work on different topics. Couple of topics I'm going to bring up to you
right now included cell phones was had some time spent on it and e-bikes. Um, more than that though, we also spend a little bit of time looking at our goals from last year and talking about just the rough draft, where we were, what we talked about for goals for this year
moving forward. There's a tremendous amount of energy in in that room with the administrators, and I'll put Shawn Olson on the on the spot here if he wants to add anything. I I think the phrase that was actually
used, you never get unanimous support in this room and you have it. We need to do this. And that is for us to kind of rip apart our um MTSS and INOS system and make it more teacher-friendly and help
it also identify students in need in a quicker, shorter period of time. It's going to be a heavy lift. It means changing the data network that we use. It means change It means creating new processes. I I The reason why I bring it up is
because it is such a heavy load, and I think, again, Shawn, correct me if I'm wrong, I think there's an idea that Wallace will benefit everybody. This will benefit to the greatest extent incoming freshmen, which is our class with the highest failure rate, right?
Which is our class that struggles the most with the transitions from middle school. So, as I was listening to the room today and thinking about, you know, we talked about we were definitely going to do something with curriculum and rigor at the use of technology. Looking at
Remember, somebody brought up summer reading when we were talking a couple of weeks ago. I I That's a That's a must stay cuz that's that also builds on some stuff we did last year. But, I really want to get this rebuild of this MTSS and this INRS and one also because it's
important. It's going to help kids be more quickly identified. We have a belief, and this isn't a knock, we have a belief that the current system we were using was just so cumbersome that we actually were not fully recognizing kids.
Um, I'll take Mr. Edmonds nod of the head to mean that he has heard similar conversations. >> I just remember INRS when I was in the building. And it was a process. >> So, so with your permission, I I want to move a couple of these goals around and kind of rewrite stuff cuz I
Considering the amount of people that are going to be involved, it's going to be guidance supervisors, it's going to be academic supervisors. It's going to be Jen Rushton and Jacqueline at the district level. It's going to involve Alaine because we're going to have Genesis actually design some or
co-design some components with us with Alaine. I I want to rework I want this to be a standalone goal because it is substantial. And it is about identifying students who are having multiple failures, who are having multiple who are having attendance issues, who are
having um, discipline issues. And actually creating a system that for once, instead of relying on people to flag these kids, we're going to use Genesis and set up automatic parameters where lists are
automatically created and notifications are made. So, it's a little bit of us moving into where we should be in terms of technology and and AI. Aleng, I assume you're around the corner. Is there anything you want to add or show and anything you want to add from the convo today?
>> [clears throat] >> So, with your permission, I kind of Aleng, anything you want to add? >> No. >> Okay, thanks. >> [laughter] >> Go back to your corner. Um so, with your permission, I I I want to
make this one of the stand-alones and maybe rework a couple of the others. Or is Does this sound like something you guys understand why? Again, 25 people in the room, we're all kind of like there's teachers, there's administrators, this is taking up too
much time to get the information together. Let's use technology. Let's use a little bit of artificial intelligence. Let's use a little bit of Genesis to automatically trigger referrals. >> Early alert. >> We automatically trigger letters home to
parents for absences and discipline, but right now we haven't been relying on anything to automatically create emails and text messages to parents and kids for academic reasons. Why aren't we doing that? That should be so basic, right? So, like that's one example right there. So if everybody's comfortable,
I'm going to kind of restructure that as a standalone and manipulate a couple of the others and we can just play drafts back and forth if if if you guys are okay with that. >> Yep, 100%. >> Consensus? >> Yep. >> Any [clears throat] questions? >> What does I and R S even stand for? I forgot.
>> Intervention and referral service. >> I and R S, I and R S. >> And and intervention and referral, yeah. [laughter] Any questions any other questions other than the acronym? Okay. Um
So couple of other big topics of conversation this week, cell phones. Um The principals or the assistant principals locked themselves in a room today for about an hour and a half. In the policy, if you read it and this was a question a board member just have and
this was on my list to talk to you all tonight anyway. Um In the policy, you noticed I didn't go to specific discipline for every event within the policy. We're going to put the specific events in the code of conduct.
The assistant principals were writing that today. If you notice, the one line that was very important and I read this with the assistant principals earlier was that the range of discipline will fall within that which is prescribed by the code of
conduct, but it is based upon the number of incidents and or referrals and it is also based upon the students interactions with staff. That gives the assistant principals the right if the first time we write up Dan
for having his cell phone and Dan proceeds to curse out the teacher and Dan proceeds to refuse to leave the classroom or Dan proceeds to take his phone out, call his mom and scream at his mom and disrupt class, well, then
we're going to 10 on step one. If Aleng gets to May, and it's his third referral, and it's May, and he's handled everything gracefully, then even though he has three referrals, he'll never get
to anywhere near how we dealt with him. Right? So, the assistant principals are creating the code of conduct. That's what's going to go out. Now, the timeline of letting everybody know, cuz districts are starting to put out fancy posters and everything, we're putting
out a text message and an email to all students and all parents later this week. I think I had shared that with you guys previously. [laughter] We're going to link the New Jersey law. We're going to link the New Jersey Department of Ed's brochure. Here, this is why the state has enacted this law,
and we're going to make it very clear that this is a policy that we are required statutorily to enact as per the state of New Jersey. We're also going to say to them, we will update you further in your principal's August letter, and in your superintendent's September letter, with
some of the exceptions such as after-school activities, field trips, etc. And the reason why I'm taking this approach is quite simple. Every night for the last week, my wife has said to me, "Did you see the Facebook in the community of
and the posters up on this week in Acme Township, and it's got [clears throat] 4,000 comments with people destroying the teachers and the state and everybody else. I'm not going to feed the cannon. Right? Everybody knows the law is coming. We're going to put an
informational message out this week, and then we'll do an additional informational message out the third week of August with what the exceptions and all that are. It It is what it is, and I hate to make that casual or cavalier, but this is the law, and everybody knows what's coming.
So, um I that again there was a board member that had a question with that. We'll be putting our notification out this week. Um it's going to be very it I I don't think this needs five pages. I I think it needs five sentences and here's the link to our policy which you guys
are going through first read. Here's the link to you know, the code of conduct which will be updated in August etc. Here's the link to the department of that. So, it'll be pretty clear. Um just so you all know and I know I shared this with Carol and I think I shared it with Marge as well.
I continue to correspond with a couple of different legislators. I continue to work on a committee at my association in Trenton to say you need to make this you need to allow a little bit of district local local district prerogative in this. Not all
districts are the same. Um there a couple of legislators believe that this is not going to stay as is forever. They think because this was not the spirit of the way it was originally intended. >> That's correct. >> Um again in the email I forwarded to to
Carol and Marge I laid out I'm 9 through 12. I have 300 square miles. 2/3 of my kids are either living in a single-family household or they're living in a multi-generational. And typically you're living in a multi-generational because the kids are
helping take care of somebody. You can't tell me that my kids don't shouldn't have access to a cell phone at lunchtime to check up and see what's going on in the household. So, that just want you to know I continue to have those conversations. Anytime I correspond with somebody like that an
elected official I forward it on to the the board leadership. Anybody have any questions on that stuff? >> Did you share your wisdom in um separating the infractions in the code of conduct from the actual policy? >> [sighs and gasps]
>> The code of conduct we can pivot on quicker and it allows us a greater space to work in based upon student situations. All the Shawn wants to add anything. I mean, you guys listed out today one through five the steps and everything and
I'm not going to say all assistant principals agreed because you didn't agree in the beginning, but you got to a place where we are confident we're going to be consistent, correct? >> [laughter] >> We are [clears throat] also going to the building the other component to this conversation. I think Dan had to add in
a minute I see March. Um the other component to this conversation [clears throat] is we want to make sure that we don't get inundated with IEP and 504 requests. So we are not going to Renee as a district supervisor special services has already been working with the building
special ed supervisors as well as with the assistant principals. This is going to be a conversation of okay, well let us show you the software we can put on your Chromebooks so you can accomplish what you need. So it's not going to be get your phone out. >> Yeah. >> It's going to be this is what you can do
on your Chromebook or this is what you can do on your iPad. And Elaine can provide an iPad that would have translation services or transcription services or digital modifications through any number of AI programs, but we could
block or lock out any type of messaging or any type of video communications like that, right? So, it's our device, we control it. We are going to in any as as to the greatest degree that we can, we are going to avoid the IEP or
the 504 becoming Johnny can use his cell phone. Now, Johnny will be provided with a district device that will support his needs. Marge? >> Uh yes, just a couple things. I'm a little [clears throat] concerned
about um five or so people interpreting a student's reaction. You know, teachers, administrators, they look at things differently, and I think that's a way too general to say it depends on the reaction of the students. Because you
might think one thing about a student's reaction, "Ah, that's okay. He's only a kid." I might think something else. So, I think I wish there were a way that you could just make it a little bit more not so general. Does that make sense to you? >> offense, there's a there's a detention that comes with it. There's
>> [clears throat] >> There's no There is there that's going to be within the student code of conduct, and I'm more than happy sharing that with you when they finish writing it. But, if if it becomes insubordination or disrespectful or a threat, then it gets
treated differently. >> See, that was my point, too. I don't think it's only cell phones, a kid's reaction. >> [clears throat] >> It's also a student's reaction to any discipline. >> Well, that's And that's how it's written in the code of conduct. >> And that's how it's written in the code of conduct. So, the point is we're
actually treating this the same way as the kid who asked to go to the bathroom and was told no, there's already somebody out. That That's the point. We're actually being consistent with how this would be addressed in other places. >> And I just want to make a comment, for what it's worth, it'll make me feel
better, about the state writing our policies. Um, I resent that. I think it's too it's too structured. From the first day I was on the school board, and that was a hundred years ago, I was told boards of education set policy. They're still
saying the same thing today. So, it's up [clears throat] to us to set policy, I think, and not the state to mandate what we do. That's my opinion. And that's why I voted no. >> Understood. Understood. Okay. >> I uh I actually want to kind of agree a
little bit with what Lonnie was saying there. And and while Shawn was speaking, one of the things that came to my mind um was that there is a large you're talking about a large gray area. And and one of my concerns is making sure that we're equitable across schools. >> Mhm. >> And that we're not seeing more referrals
coming out of one school over the other only because of the way administration is dealing with the students. Um and what they're seeing as being That it No response needed, more just kind of like that's one of my concerns is that >> I'm going to disagree with you in one
one word. My concern is not the administrators and how they're going to respond to it. My concern is the 375 classroom teachers and the variations that are going to occur in what they allow and what they write up and what they don't. And and and we've talked about that openly, and
I've had that conversation with the union president. They need to understand teachers are going to be held accountable. This is no longer a okay, well, let's try this and see if it helps. This is we've as much as we may not like it, we've
been told this is what we have to do. So, the teacher that still is going to say for the last seven minutes of class, okay guys, don't tell your next teacher, but you can all take your cell phone out, it's okay, take it out, check your text messages, but don't tell your next teacher, that teacher is now going to
get written up. And and administration is going to have that as part of the messaging to teachers on day one. And and I will say this, I understand some people might not like it. I understand there are going to be
some people who philosophically disagree with it, but I have charged the administrators with making sure that they are consistent and the principals have created a okay, first time I walk into Dan's room, this is what happens. Second time I walk into Dan's room, this is
what happens. So so teachers could face progressive discipline also for violating this. And that's what you said is 100% fair, but that's one of our methods to try to minimize the variations that will occur. >> Yeah, I I think I'm not so much
concerned with you know, teachers following up in the in in the administration within one building following up. It's more it's the rules being different from one building to the and that's that's >> That's a fair >> one of my concerns.
>> We it's it's a fair it's a fair it's a fair question, 100%. >> I'm sorry, I had a just a a second thing that popped when you were talking about. I know that the policy allows for 504 504 plan and that kind of thing, but you had mentioned translators and multilingual learners, do they
don't necessarily fall into a 504 plan, but a lot of them do rely on that translator for their everyday classroom. Are we going to make I have that available even if it's not something that is diagnosed and that kind of thing?
>> The ML program has already been part of the conversation. The the district supervisor Joe Costal and and Jacqueline have already had conversations with Elaine and they solicited feedback from the teachers I I I know in some in some respects in
terms of what's going to work and what's not going to work. That's not to say that we're not going to have hiccups and we're not going to have to make adjustments, but that is on our radar. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I have kind of a question. You answered the You did answer the questions I had.
Similar to Margin and Gan. I'm going to go for part two. Part two would be how about the um I know you're going to get in We all know you're going to get inundated with calls from parents trying to get a hold of their child.
I just know what it was like in the past in the front office before cell cell phones became so prominent. [cough] >> [clears throat] >> They're just overwhelmed in the front office anyway. Will be there be a secretary or a person dedicated to answer phones and get
messages to the kids? >> The principals are actually including in their messaging going out in August some exam some examples of if there is a family emergency dial the main number, etc. Please don't call the school to
discuss what what the student had for lunch. >> Right. >> I mean we you know >> But yeah. >> We're we're going to try and write that in a nice way. >> Okay. >> Um but you know, that's going to be a little bit of a living through the experience also and that's every school. That's not just us.
>> Oh no, everybody has that same problem. >> Um I I think there's you know, I think the messaging we're going to try and get to the parents is if you need to have a discussion with your child about after school activities
um if is if it's a conversation that occurred at 2:29, your kid's able to turn their cell phone back on as soon as that dismissal bell rings at 2:28 and and check in with your kid at that point. >> Thank >> You know, um I'm hoping because we're high school,
it's a little better than say an elementary. But if we find >> [laughter] >> Huh? >> It is just as bad if not worse. That's a big hope. That's a big hope. >> But if we find that we need to start saying to parents,
"Okay, this is not an emergency notification. Your child will be called down at the end of the day." then that's what we're going to do. >> Right. >> Yeah, I mean I hate to say it, but if I go back I started in 2001, you know, and and it
wasn't for that, but it was for a reminder for detentions or it was for information about who's taking what bus home. You know, the end of the day at Oak Crest the last 40 seconds was with the following students, please report to the main office. I I mean, you know, if we got to rework the bell schedule and add an extra
minute to the last schedule the last period of the day somehow for with the following students, please come to the main office and pick up a message from your mother, then that's what we'll do. >> Could Could it also be maybe
a staggered end of the day for that cell phone time? Like a little bit more room before the activity. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I think that's what What when you're saying that, I'm thinking parents are so used to having the access. >> Yeah. >> They might be your biggest issue with this. >> Yeah, the parents. >> We're so used to having the access. Let me text this. Let me get this to my kid.
Get an answer and you move on with your day cuz it's just the convenience of it. >> Look, there's a petition going around in one of our neighboring towns led by a parent who is an attorney. And he's asking other attorneys to join him in filing a class action lawsuit. Have at it, man. Like >> It's not that big of a deal.
>> We're going to We're going to get some of that. >> Yeah. >> Um and and I think the most important part, I appreciate all of your concerns. The principals and the assistant principals and me are putting the time in to try to make sure we are as consistent as possible. The union
president and I have met and sat down and talked about this twice. And whether it's consistencies within a building, department to department, or consistencies building to building, it is something that we're going to have to pay attention to and we're going to have to work on. Um I think in some respects
though, it's going to be easier now because you know, two or three years ago, we were still kind of trying to let teachers be the masters of their own classrooms, right? This is going to be a pretty short conversation now. And not for nothing, I will share this.
Two years ago, when we started, if you recall, it was only two years ago that I started with teachers had to sign in. And and we had a ton of lates the year before we started that. The year we had, you know, we outlined and
and the principals are going to follow a similar pattern in terms of being consistent with teacher interactions. When teachers are late to school, the principals have a this happens at four, this happens at eight, this happens at 12, this happens at 16. I didn't involve 16.
I got involved with far fewer teachers this year when it was actually going to result in a memo in the file or potentially an increment withholding than I did last year when it was okay, we're rolling this out, everybody's got to get used to it. So,
I'm I'm again, I'm going to use the word hopeful. I'm hopeful that teachers will realize when a couple people start getting that four time memo in their file saying you have four times had an administrator walked in
your room and teachers were using their cell phones, this memo is going in your file, further actions of this behalf may lead to an increment withholding and or additional discipline. I'm hoping there are not many more of them after that starts. Marge. >> Do we reward teachers who sign in early,
like a half hour, an hour? We don't paste a gold star on their head or anything. We'll just punish them if they're late. >> Yes. >> Um okay, onto the next fun topic, e-bikes. Um [clears throat] I gave you a bit an article that was in the Star-Ledger this weekend. I don't
know if any of you saw it on your own. Obviously, it hit Atlantic County with a an unfortunate incident um from a student at the prep. Last year, there was an incident in Ocean City. Um the reason why the article came to a
head, the reason why I'm bringing it to you is for the first time this is now being further regulated again through state law. We talked about it today. Um admittedly, I don't I don't know how many students roughly are doing it right
now to our three buildings. So, the assistant principals and the principals shared what they see in their buildings. Our thought process is um so, the state law for an e-bike e-bike means you still have pedal power
in addition to the electrical assistance. E-bike, you have to be 15. You have to have a license. It has to be registered. And you register it with the bill of sale or or from a with a receipt with a
matching serial number. Kids have to wear a helmet. So, license, registration, helmet, 15 years old. Um we are going to again putting messaging out to families. To this point, we haven't really paid
much attention to it because there was no state laws attached to it. There are now state laws attached to it. Will and I talked a little bit at the beginning of the night. Will is going to further review our driving to school policy and he and I will talk more over the next couple days.
This may become an addendum to our driving to school policy or we may separate it out, but it's going to be something similar in the sense of you're going to have to put on record with us your license. You're going to have to put on record with us the registration. You're going to have to be
15 years old, similar to how we handle with driving. If you have repeated discipline occurrences or you have repeated attendance issues, you could lose your ability to ride your e-bike. I have very serious concerns.
I'm not as concerned about Asbury Gamy because there is a brand new 10-ft wide path the length of Wrangleboro Road and there's some decent sidewalking on the street that goes down to like the Carriage House, right? That's all sidewalks. And there's
we have hundreds of kids in that area in those develop in those development. I'm very concerned about Cedar Creek because you're going to be on Moss Mill or you're going to be on Philadelphia Ave. I'm very concerned about Oak Crest because you're going to be on Route 40, you're going to be on Cologne, or you're
going to be on the Pike. Um so we want to make sure that there's messaging out to parents that these these requirements are going to have to be met. We want to make sure that there's we're going to link the state's the state put
out as only the state can do a 36-page document on what you have to do, expectations, rules. Same as we're going to link the state information on cell phones, we're going to link the state information on e-bikes. Just to be transparent with all of you
sitting here, part of the question I have with well, part of the questions the administrators that I had today. Johnny gets on his e-bike at the end of the day. We all know what the state law is. Johnny doesn't put his helmet on. He latches his helmet around his
backpack and he drives off the property and as he passes the three building administrators with no helmet on, he waves and he smiles. We're watching him do what we know he's not supposed to be doing on our property. That's a real concern of mine. So Will and I are going
to talk about this. Will, I don't know if you want to add anything now. >> Uh not really, just that the um you know, it's a it's new area. We're going to motor vehicle itself. That guy is probably going to be more
trouble than passing and selling. So far so um And then I do think that in some ways this is not not good. They can serve At least they have to be peaceful. >> Yeah.
>> I'm just going >> [clears throat] >> We're going to be riding anyway, legally, too. Uh pretending that it's a regular bike. And um taking it step by step. We'll workshop it. Come back.
What I do recommend off the cuff is an amendment to the transportation. Special transportation. >> Yeah. >> If it's a substance, you don't have to make it Don't have to reinvent the wheel, so Mhm. >> Or as what they rules and guidelines. >> And then we'll put messaging out, like I
said, to students, to parents. Don't buy your 14-year-old a Christmas present and then blame me when they can't ride at the school for another nine nine months. Right? Great. >> What happens if Johnny wants to take his >> [clears throat] >> What happens if Johnny wants to take his
girlfriend home and throws her on the handlebars? >> Uh we're going to have to put a stop to that. >> She has to wear a helmet. >> We're we're >> Yeah, but you're going to let two people on there? >> No, no, we're not. Because that's the I mean that's actually in in the guide in the guidance or in the
law is they are single-use vehicles. And again, I think Sean, I think one building talked about you've got five or six, one building talked about you've got 10 or 12. We're not community that's going to have 200 of
these on September. But it only takes one accident and we are going to be questioned on what we did in being a part of where you watched him drive off of your property.
Right? So so we will build this. And to Marge's point Marge, yeah, it's it's it's more we got to go. You know, I and and I I will share this quickly. I will go back to 2007 or so and and Will, I was having a conversation with
Lou Greco. And and Lou says to me, you know, jokingly, "Well, you're going to be superintendent someday." And I said, "Ah, I don't know. We'll see what happens." And Lou says, "Well, here's what you're not going to like. Adam has this much control and the state has this much control. By the time you
retire, you're going to have this much control and the state's going to have this much control." And he's right. We every year we lose a little bit more control and the state becomes a little bit more and more directive, if if you will. >> I just want to make sure I said it
strongly that I I strongly support it being attached to the driving to school policy. I think that is a great place to put it and the rules all the rules follow. You have to sign up, you have to register, you have to take any any additional with defensive driving courses, whatever it takes you with to
drive to school, you would have to do that for this. And the same age group. It's not open to freshman, it's not open to >> Um that that we can have right now, I think the majority of the the the buildings
response was they want they do not want to be more restrictive than the state law, so it's 15. >> Okay. Okay. >> And and I again, I hate to put people on the spot, >> space. >> But Sean, there was only two or three of us that were fighting on my side of making it 16-year-olds. >> was made earlier.
>> Yeah. >> They They They overrode and and they pointed to the equity issue of 15-year-olds that can leave now and get to work quicker because they are working at 15, 16 years old. >> You know, the the equity issue of
um you know, and I'll use this this building as an example and I can be unbelievably nervous about Philadelphia Avenue at 3:00. But you might get home in 7 minutes where depending upon where you are on that bus
route that runs east through west across town, you might be home 25 minutes before the bus would. So. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. There's There's no law on the motorized scooters. >> Oh, in other states it's banned on roadways and sidewalks.
>> So, I think >> And we deal with that on the college campus. It's banned in the state, but >> And and maybe No, I don't know. I should check that. Maybe it is with the DMV, but I I mean I I I actually just so you understand the level of communications, I reached out to our three police chiefs and just to
make sure, are you guys going to do anything more restrictive? Are any of you going to say, "No, we're going to make it 16." Are any of you going to say, "Can't ride it on Route 40 or Route 50 in Mays Landing." Are any of you going to say, "Can't ride it on
Philadelphia Avenue." And they all said no, we are doing no restrictions beyond what's in the law because if they were going to If they were going to be more restrictive, I was going to obviously follow them and and model what they're doing. But I did reach out to the chiefs and nobody is being more restrictive.
>> So, when they license these, they have like a license plate or something on them? >> I Yeah, I think it's like a boat. It's a registration sticker and you but you do have a license. >> I understand [snorts] that but what happens is you know, you only make so
many models. You might have 20 20 bikes out there. They all look the same. How do you tell which one he is if he's violating? >> Well, one of the Well, they'll recognize the kid when the kid gets on if one of the things will point it out which I
thought was a great point. Um one of the addendums within that policy will be you are 100% responsible for providing your own locking system >> and locking it every day. So, if you don't lock it you you you you
don't leave it. All right, so we're not responsible for making sure nobody nobody takes the wrong one accidentally. Three times. Okay, last thing. Sorry, I'm I'm droning on. Um
>> Yes. >> Just wanted to let you know the Oakcrest floor um we gave them a short punch list Tom what? Last week? >> Mhm. >> Really not much of anything with the floor. A couple little pinholes they
were finishing. Um it was mostly dirt. They didn't clean some surfaces to our satisfaction. They were back and I think they were actually cleaning today, right? >> I didn't notice them in >> I think they were in there today because I know the guy said they were running vacuums in there.
One issue they the um because because it's the Oakcrest gym floor, there's always an issue. Um the spec was written and Tom if I misspeak, please correct me. The spec was written for the sleeves that the
volleyball stanchions slide into. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Oakcrest gym floor will transfer over there. Sorry. Okay. I'm good then. >> Thank you. >> Um I just wanted to mention at the
retreat um we kind of ran out of time so I said I would just bring a couple ideas for board board goals. So I have a couple things to share and one that I want to hold back for like one other week though. My thought is a couple years in a row we've tried to do community and talked about going to
board member board meetings in our home district but a lot of times those conflict time wise. That didn't really work out. So this is my thought. Um board members will attend at least two school events in the 2026-2027 coming year. I'm hoping everyone will consider attending different events than the one
they always do. For example, if you always go to sporting events maybe try a play or concert. If you go to play or concert maybe try an awards ceremony or open house. There's also programs sponsored at the schools or in the community. Superintendent will share program programs of interest with the board on a
weekly or monthly basis. Um just to give us some ideas because what we're hoping is you know some people always go to the same thing. If we get out to different things then when we come back to the board meeting we do board member reports you could say you know I went to something like I did the um a thing over at Gammy's. I did a thing
at Creekside this year, the voting thing and just I was energized when I left those and coming back to share so the public if there's public here and the people around the table at least maybe get a taste of something that they weren't able to attend. So I'm thinking that might be more realistic than trying to say we're going to go to meetings and
stuff that we can't possibly do. >> [clears throat] >> And it would get us out in the public more and you know people might see us different places. We want them to know that you know we don't just sit here and magically appear at this table and disappear. Um and the other one I want to expanding knowledge. So instead of just saying you know we're going to do this, do that,
just mentioning that everybody can go to the workshop and go to um training over at Lang City and I put the dates I'll put the dates in it. It's the 19th through the 22nd this year. Um I'll work with Michelle Kennedy to arrange any training workshops that we feel as a board as the year goes on if we feel we
want something special. We have to have ethics every year. If something else comes up in discussion, I'll add it to that. And um also working talking to James uh that he will share information during
the year with the district um during the meeting. So, when we have reports and things, he'll have time that maybe during um you know, one of the regular meetings, somebody can report back on something that's a a goal to kind of update us or program that's happening in the district to share information rather
than wait to the end of the year and like um give us all that information as it happens when possible. So, it won't be like an every single time, but just to try to share some of that information. And plus for anybody that is conflicted that maybe doesn't get to see some of those things at the end of the year and it a chance to see more of
or hear more about the different things happening as they happen. So, those two are in there now and I have like one more like that. So, I'll have to forward that. And if you have any comments or something, just you know, talk to me, shoot me a text. Tell me what you think. Um and that's really all I have for
tonight. So, I'll ask if anybody has any old business. Any new business? Okay. This time I'll open the meeting to public. Anyone wish to speak on any matter? Now the dog has to bite it. >> [laughter] >> Okay. Do we have a resolution for
executive session? >> Yes, pursuant to section 78 of public meeting act, the following objects will will be discussed in a session of the Board of Education closed to the public. Security protocols and planning, contracts, and legal update. Please be advised that the items mentioned in the resolution can be
disclosed to the public when a decision is made upon the same or in the case of personnel issues when the need for confidentiality no longer exists. Formal action may be taken in executive session. May I get a second? >> Make a motion to move to executive session. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> Aye. >> Those against? Those abstaining? Those
recusing? Motion approved. >> Aye.