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But I'll go ahead and call this meeting to order. The meeting is being recorded by the sustainable green field implementation committee SGIC. If any other persons present are doing the same, you must

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notify the chair person at this time. Okay. Uh so we'll do a quick roll call if everyone would just um say present out loud especially folks

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who are on the screen. Um I'll start with do I say everyone's name? >> You can yourself if you want. You >> just go around the table. We're going to do introductions afterwards anyway. Okay. >> Yeah. Go around the table.

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>> Okay. So I'm Hannah. I'm here at from uh the public public member. >> Uh Amy Kane, community and economic development director and planning board designate here. Nancy, can we jump to you? >> Nancy Hazard, member at large. >> Y

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>> Bram Morinas, member at large and we'll jump up to the screen. George, can we start with you? George Solomus, planning board representative and committee vice chair. >> And Max,

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>> uh, Max Webb, city council designate and present. >> Jonah, >> Jonah Keane, public member. >> Ella, if you're here with us and you're also not.

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>> Hi. Uh, Ella Wise, director of city planning, >> not a member. Oh, I hope you feel better. I know things are going around. >> Thanks. >> All right. Thank you all. Um, at this

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time, I'll open it up for public comment if anyone I don't know that we have anyone who's Okay. Um, so let's move on to approval of the

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December 18, January 22nd, and February 26th meeting minutes. >> Should we do them one at a time? >> Yes, let's do that. So, let's start with December 18, 2025.

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>> So moved. >> Second. >> Thank you. Any discussion? Uh, which ones are we doing? This first one is December 18th, 2025. Do you have Do you have some Georgia?

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Can I go ahead? Go ahead. All right. Um, yeah. Page four, section N O TF. It's It says OS F everywhere. Okay. So both times in

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page four, section 9 B and C. Then on page five, section 10 near the bottom it says Hannah says something about that, but it should say about what I can

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send those to you if it helps later. >> Um either way, I'm just taking them down and I can always email you if I have a question. Okay, that's it for December for me. Great. Any other notes or discussion for December?

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All right. So, we'll move to >> So, I to ask all in favor. >> Yes. Uh, so we'll move to all in favor of approving the December 18th meeting minutes with MS edits.

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>> I I have to roll call vote >> because people are online. Okay. Um, George, >> yes. >> Jonah, >> yes. >> Max, >> yes. >> Ella,

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>> not a member. >> Oh, it's not. Okay, never mind. You don't get a vote. Um, do we have to do roll call in the room? Is it enough that everybody said okay? MF >> I. >> Nancy, >> I.

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>> Bram, >> hi. >> And I'll say I as well. Um, you don't get enough. Oh, you do get an I don't She's the disc. Right, right, right. Okay. Um, so we'll move on to January 22nd, 2026 minutes.

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>> Move to approve. >> Second. Great. Any discussion or notes? Have some, too. >> Go for it. I love it. >> H2 on the bottom.

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Hannah would like uh something and she she I don't know how to pronounce it. Chcoin >> it has only one C. >> Oh >> yeah. Thank you. Page three, section C. Same thing. OTF should be OSTF.

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>> Okay. And then just before section three, Jonathan is slightly misspelled. It has an extra A. Great. You have a another F. That should be OSTF on page four.

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>> You're a good proofer. >> He gets them all. I'm sure you have more and Oh, yeah. That was a question. I'm not sure. It says is under the implementation something that Ella I think was saying

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that implementation isn't occurring. They were talking about the OSTF as an example. I think it said information isn't occurring and I thought maybe it should say is occurring cuz >> we are we have implemented

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>> making >> which page are you on? >> I think it's page four. open. I think it's isn't because I think the point was um OSTF was finding a niche where implementation

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of the master plan was not happening and was using their work to make that implementation happen. And so Ella's point I think was that um that's a great model for SGIC to think about is to find places where implementation is not happening and work to try and make that

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implementation happen. And then in section six, John Zon is misspelled. There's no H. And John is misspelled, too. >> John, I think it's >> there's only an H in one. And I >> The H is in John.

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All right, that's it for Disney, Mary. That's all. Um, any other notes or discussion? All right, so we'll move to a vote. Nancy, >> yes. >> To approve. Bram, >> I. >> MF, >> yes. >> Amy, >> yes.

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>> George, >> yes. >> Jonah, >> yes. >> Max, >> yes. Amazing. Ella doesn't get a vote. Sorry. Oh. Um, and the last are February 26, 2026.

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>> Move to approve. Second wonderful discussion one whoever took those terrible minutes on page 2B or it's just

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the last line plan planning board asked to be on the April agenda. >> Wonderful. >> Thank you. >> George, did you have something as well? I it might have been it's a little hard to understand everything there but I

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think on under 6B the end the planning board will ask I think that's what was just >> will okay >> I assume that's what was meant and at the end of last line of 6A uh it should be his delta report

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last line of 68 it says is Delta report. Did people see that? >> Great. And I assume you got my note to be sure that Carol's name is spelled with an eight. >> I did. I have not updated it, but I did

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get your note. Thank you. >> Great. Jonah, did you have something as well? >> Just on number two in the roll call, my last name has three e. It should only have two e and an a. >> Three. >> It's spelled correctly above.

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It's very confusing. New Hampshire really makes it complicated. >> All right. Thank you. Anything else? All right. So, motions to or no, we've made a motion to approve. All in favor?

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Nancy? >> Yes. >> Graham, >> yes. >> Emma, >> yes. >> Amy, >> yes. >> George, >> I. >> Jonah, >> yes. >> Max, >> yes. >> Great. Thank you all >> and thank you note takers.

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>> Yes. My gosh. All right. So, we're going to move to master plan updates. The first is chapter updates regarding presentation of updated chapters to city council and any next steps. I'm not sure. I think George maybe is taking the

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lead on this. >> Yep. So, it did uh um excuse me, present um the two new chapters to the city council. Um I guess it was last week. Um and uh I um myself

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and Ella were there. Uh Jeff was not available. Uh and uh and to be clear, we had talked previously about seeking endorsement, but uh as as we discussed it further uh on the planning board, it

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was really we were just presenting these to uh the city council um uh for them to be aware of it and and to try to partner with the city council on this uh process going forward. Um and they uh were the

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most part wellreceived and there was a lot of interest uh in these and u so it seemed like a a positive uh interaction uh with the council was my perspective and obviously Max uh had uh their own

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perspective on that. So, I'll I'll uh >> Yes. >> presentable. >> Yeah. >> Wonderful. >> It was um I would just love to say the way you described that it's like a menu for ordinances and policy is perfect and

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I just want the entire sustainable master plan to be like that moving forward and forever. So, thank you for that. I think you really excited people about the aspects of Greenfield here. >> Nice.

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>> Great. Thank you uh for that feedback, Max. And I want to emphasize that Ella uh was uh very instrumental in uh supporting me and assisting me with doing the presentation um and uh pro providing materials for

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the council and sitting alongside me. And this was Ella's first time in front of the council. So, it was the first time for the council to get to meet uh the new uh planning director for the city. So, it was a it was a great opportunity. And I know Ellie, you're

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there. I know you're not 100% either. >> Yeah. No, thanks for that, George. I appreciate that acknowledgement. I think it was a good teamwork. You did a great job presenting and it makes me um think that we could share the talking points. Um, it's good to know that, councelor

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Webb appreciated that, but we could share that with this group, I think. Um, if it's Ella, are you >> Yeah, >> we're having a hard time hearing you. Are you Maybe you could get closer to the microphone on your computer or something. >> It's better. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Much thank you. >> Okay, great. >> Um, I appreciate that acknowledgement, George. It was good to work with you and great job presenting. Uh, councelor Webb's comment makes me think that we could share the talking points um in case it's helpful for this group in uh

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explaining the master plan and the updated chapters, >> right? That would be great. >> Good point, Ella. Thank you. I can do that. Um and uh so that was shared with the council and uh uh Jeff had also

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reached out to the mayor uh to do a similar presentation and uh I had been copied on that. I hadn't seen a response at this point that that had been scheduled or who would be involved in that. So I I don't know Ella if you happen to have caught wind of uh

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>> it's in the process of being scheduled. There was some miscommunication. >> Very good. Thank you. Okay, Nancy, did you >> Yeah, I have a question about um public um meeting about it all. Was that

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announced or or not yet? >> Say again, please answer >> the we have been talking about holding a public meeting about the master plan update. Was you did you mention that or you were you feeling like it wasn't

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quite announced yet so you weren't able to do that? >> Well, I did reference that it would be um on the event coming up on uh in May that that would be uh part of that meeting. Yes. Part of that event.

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>> Yeah. I put it in my city council notes in my newsletter. So, it's out there in the ether. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anything else on chapter updates before

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>> Max's newsletter is profoundly detailed. Does anybody else here get it? >> Oh, no. >> Um I Max, can you share it? You or I can share the link too with the committee because I think people really need to see that. >> Sorry, I'm eating. That's why I'm >> totally fine. >> Just go like this if you want to share

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it and go like this if you want me to share it. Um, share away. >> Awesome. >> I mean, it it's profound. >> That's so great. >> Yeah. >> All right. Good to hear you. >> Well, let's um move on then to the SGIC

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event planning subcommittee update discussion of public engagement plans uh of SGIC and the open space task force in anticipation of Tuesday, May 19th community meeting at the John Zan. Not sure who's taking the lead on this

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section. >> I can start. >> Awesome. >> Um, yeah, my George and I touched base briefly before. My my understanding is we had sort of shift this to the open space task force as opposed to a subcommittee here. uh because it the way

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we had talked about it as being primarily an open space task force event with okay just a five five or 10 minute introduction to the chapter plan updates and successes um since

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>> who who's doing that 10-minute intro >> Amy and Ella or some or one of them and or uh so so we had talked about it in the our last open space task force meeting. We

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do have a a plan um although a still um flexible plan because it's not it's not out it hasn't put out yet. So we welcome input on it. Uh in our next meeting which is Monday is when we plan to

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finalize the event. Um, so at the moment it's a uh it's an introduction by uh Ella and Amy as we just described to the chapters uh and then an introduction to

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the community of the open space task force and why why we why we exist. Um and then we have three priorities that we've been focused on which are this conservation priority mapping, the

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pollinator plan and trails. And those three sections each have people on the task force who are focused on them. And so each of those uh three priorities are going to have stations in the room that

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will be gathering input from the community somewhere. the other. So, each one will be a little bit different. And so, after we do a a group presentation, which won't be won't be too long. Uh there will be more of a mingling and going around to each station and providing input. Uh and oh, and maybe

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Amy and Ella might have a a table a station as well. I think that's as a >> So, I think for our table, um it would be great if we had a I don't maybe a station. Ella and I were going to just do a quick overview of SGIC and the two

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chapter updates. And then um I think I shared with the committee Nancy had sent to me this uh Excel table nicer than that but Excel table um where for part of the downtown deliberation we had

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identified successes of SGIC and and I thought we would create one maybe with fewer things on it and let folks come and add to that um as sort of an interactive um things that they view as successes of SGIC.

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um to be celebrated. >> That sounds great. Love that. >> George. >> Thank you. Um Jonah, when you were last uh talking in your your um planning

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meeting, what was the overall length of the event that you were considering? >> We have we have a start time of six o'clock. We don't have a an end time with the space, but and so we didn't finalize that because there's some

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flexibility to the dynamic of it. We assume that there'll be the most people there at the beginning and then as people rotate around there's not going to be a finale of any kind. So that people will be gradually leaving. I think we had said and Nancy and Prince correct me. think we had expected maybe

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in the hour and a half range as being the total the full the full length of it, but we were open open-ended. >> That that's what I had kind of envisioned in the hour and a half range. And I wondered um

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cuz I I remember um talking about uh maybe I think uh Ella had talked about a 10-minute intro about the the two chapters that she could do and and I was um wondering given the very positive

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response um at the uh city council if it would be um feasible and reasonable and um if it would it would be um uh

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uh it would be indicated to try to give a little more time to the two chapters like about 15 minutes or something like that. So, I wanted to throw that out to the committee uh just seeing the strong response because I know we're talking about

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the um you know, we've weighed about you know, fitting these two things in together and also um that the uh these kind of flow together because we're talking about the master plan and then the open space task force has been

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something that flowed from the original master plan and wanted to get um an open space committee. Um, and then it gets down into very particular work. So, but I just wanted to um for people who might be coming to hear about these new chapters, I wanted to give sufficient

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time for that, but then also to be the opportunity, as um Amy's talking about, to have a a table to work at and identify. So, I just wanted to throw that out there as we're all talking together as a a planning group. So, I'll

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leave it at that. >> Yeah. George, was is there you or well, you're on SGIC, but is there a planning board person who would like to be part of the core team talking about the

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master plan or or just Amy? >> I'm going to let him answer that if you would like. And mine's slightly tangential. No. Ella, do you have a thought on that? >> Were you saying something? I didn't

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understand what you said, Amy. >> Uh, my question was, is there a person on the planning board since they're in charge of moving this forward? Right. Is there someone there that would really like to be standing at that table with

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Bella and Amy? It's not me to offer to invite them, but I'm just curious if if that came up in conversation. >> Sorry. I will check with the planning board. I would like to be there obviously, uh, both as a planning board member and the representative to this

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committee. Um, and so I'll, you know, be actively involved in that. And, uh, but I thought, uh, Amy had a response as well. So, um, >> I'm delighted to hear that you want to be there, George, because my response was going to be, um, it doesn't have to be Amy and Ella. It could certainly be

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George and Ella, and if you wanted to reprise your city council presentation, I thought it was a great one. Um, and I'm happy to have you be there as SGIC/planning board and I can just be a cheerleader at the table.

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>> Okay. And so again, I'm I'm just suggesting a little bit more room for those two chapters to, you know, for people who are coming to hear about those, get people pumped up about the master plan, generally those two new chapters, and then segue into the open

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space task force. But I'm throwing that out there to hear what other members of the committee think. So to to be clear, still have Ella do a 10-minute intro and then have you do a 15minute

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No, the whole thing be 15 minute by you. Nothing by I'm confused. >> No, no, no. That that >> I'm fine with that. No, I'm suggesting uh similar to the city council, Ella and I would collaborate on uh and thank you Amy for

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deferring like that. Um would collaborate on something that would be about 15 minutes. Uh but giving it just a little more room for the two chapters. So it' be 15 minutes for the two chapters total. Sorry if I wasn't clear. >> By Ella and J.

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Ella. Um, just to clarify, this wouldn't include question answer, right? If people had questions, they'd come up to us at the table afterwards. Is that right? >> It's it's open however we want to do it. That I think would there would

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definitely be the if it's if there was a lot of interest in discussion, I think the table would be the better place so it's not so it doesn't turn into too long of a whole group discussion. But if if it made sense to have a little bit of back and forth at the presentation time, I think that would be okay if you wanted

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it. So that that's my thought either way. >> Max, >> um yeah, I just wanted to weigh in from the city council perspective on the um presentation.

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It was really good. And also, you gave us some handouts that were chalk full of info that I wanted to read while also listening to you. And I loved both of them, but it was hard to choose what I wanted to do. Um, and so

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yeah, I I I want to advocate for you to have more spaciousness to talk about more in depth what's going on. And um, just to maybe like walk through the documents in your presentation that you handed out, I think would be really

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great and easy to follow. Um, yeah, those are my notes. I think all of this sounds great, though. >> Thanks. >> Great, Jonah. Then Nancy >> George, how how long was your city council presentation?

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>> Don't know. I could I could watch the video >> I think it was under 15 minutes. What day was it? >> Last Wednesday. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So if it's something comparable to that, yeah, I think 15 minutes is seems totally reasonable to

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me. So even a little longer if needed. Nancy. >> Yeah. I just wanted to um maybe ask you Jonah or comment on what the open space task for because I understand there

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would be a sitdown moment with some presentation and then you break the tables. Is that accurate? And how long are you imagining the sitdown portion to be? It's so it's in addition to what we're talking about now, it'll probably

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only be five additional minutes. So, we're just giving a pretty brief, you know, 10 at the most. Pro I think more likely five of just a very broad strokes introduction to what we're doing. have I mean it couldn't end up being 10 if we the one thing we were discussing

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possibly that we'll decide on Monday is that each station wants to give some amount of overview prior which probably would be good um up to 10. So the whole sitdown would be 25 minutes at most uh and then the the next hour could be

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people moving around the stations. >> Yeah, I I was imagining 10 to 15 for the introduction. space because you I assume as the chair would introduce the committee what it's doing and that whole

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big piece and then the each of the stations would be somebody from each of the stations that would just say you know come to my station this is what we're doing and this is our priority I think um it's a little it's definitely unrealistic to say five minutes 10 I

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think challenging and maybe it's 15 so >> yeah Yeah, it sounds good. >> Great. >> So, that would be like a 30 minutes sitting down and then people wandering. It just is a big picture if you do 15 to 15.

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>> Yep. Yeah, sounds good. Oh, yeah. Ellis says seven minutes with another Q&A. >> Okay, awesome. Yeah, so some logistical question. Had we talked about opening

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the doors earlier and having pizza or something or is that I'm making that up? >> It was food was discussed but it was not resolved. >> Okay. I think >> I'm I'm happy to make food happen. >> Okay. >> I was going to talk to Nancy about it. Um thinking that we could get it from

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Roberto's a because it's been good and it would be nice support for them. >> And >> if that I haven't floated that past Jonah who's actually the host of the meeting though. Well, that I know when we spoke last the there was some interest in having it be

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at the pizza scale and then other people thought that it would be nicer if it was more snacky. Um, so I don't think we've decided. >> I guess if somebody lets me know what they would like to appear there foodwise, I I will make it appear there >> possibly with additional hands to help

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me card it. >> You have a budget to do that? >> We're working on it, but I'll figure it out. >> Amazing. Yeah. So maybe we'll finalize on our Monday meeting and be in touch. >> Okay. Just let me know. >> And speaking speaking of budgets, we had we're going to need some maps printed. I

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forget who's doing that and and who has the budget for that. >> Ella has offered to print some. We just we need to finalize our number which we'll do on Mondays. We don't want to um have it be too many. But Ella has offered to to print out a few maps. We

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just met the um the trails goal table met and we would like one one uh map printed. >> Okay. Yeah, we'll confirm that on Monday. Monday. >> Yeah. >> Great. Um if there's no other comments

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on the the structure, the the other big element of this is getting people there and so um >> we are working on a a press release and a social media post and a flyer um and welcome any input and suggestions on how

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on how to best get good turnout. um signal posting it around chat room like the chats and Facebook and all that and then I mean I think if you just I think the 30 yearear-olds of Greenfield are

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realizing how fun participation is. Um so if you tell them this is a participation event and you get to like plan things in your own city I think that's great. >> Yes. >> Awesome. I I am not in on any signal chats. Is that is that something that

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>> if you make a flyer and send it to me as a picture, I can send it around. >> Awesome. Thanks, >> Jonah. Jonah, I'm running a signal for seniors training at the Greenfield Public Library. >> What? >> On Monday on April 27th, I know you're

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not a senior yet, but if you're not on Signal, you might as well be. So, it's just 5:30 at the Greenfield Public Library this Monday. It's going to be have a lot of one-on-one trainers. Going to will be wild, >> but he's also going to be in the open space. You busy.

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>> It's only open space people. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. >> And Ella put in the chat boom bring your own markers, which I think should absolutely be on the flyer. >> That's so funny. I love that. I have my own markers, Nancy. Um, so if people

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decide that they want pizza, I would suggest that it begin earlier than 6. >> Oh, yeah. >> That it begin at 5:30, >> right? >> Um, and so Jonah, are you taking the lead on writing the news release? Is that accurate? >> Yes. I have a draft that I was going to

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be sharing um probably later today or tomorrow. >> Pizza provided. BYOM. I love it. George. >> Yeah. Jonah, the um the uh meeting on Monday at 5, is that virtual?

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>> It's hybrid. Yes, you can. >> Yeah. Can you share the link with all of us at some point? Thank you. >> Yeah. Anybody that wants to continue the details of the conversation can Yeah. Welcome to join on Monday. >> Um I'll call on myself. That is fun to

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say, George. Um, I find uh that physical flyers are still a really popular way for people to get information. Um, and the GBA can help with printing some flyers out. And we

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also have a list of bulletin boards. Um, so we can and we could probably do some flying too because I have some interns who are going around and put flyers up for Bfest. So if someone sends that to the whole group, >> I'll make sure some of those get to physical spaces

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>> and you'll put it in your mail your newsletter. People can put that in your newsletters. >> The GBA might not, but we will we will make sure it gets out. >> Put it in my newslet. >> Amazing. Ella, >> I wonder too, this is more from the city

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staff side, but um Amy, is it an appropriate thing to put on the city calendar on the web page? >> Definitely. Yes. >> Okay. So, that brings its own crew. Um I'd be happy to do that for you, Jono, when it's ready.

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>> Jonathan would also share a press release, right? >> Maybe you can get an article with the recorder before. >> Oh, yeah, we should. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, another, this is like a after the

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fact, but, um, Mary FSA and Patty O'Neal and I and the precinct 7 neighbors group have been working on a trash pickup and invasive weeding day at Riverworks Park for after

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the event. Um, so it will be a nice way to do some implementation of those pollinator goals. >> Yes. >> All right. Other thoughts on marketing

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or event planning? And again, the next meeting for you all is Monday at 5. Is that right? Yeah, >> that's right. Yep. Hybrid in that room and Zoom. Um, >> okay. >> I can share a link to this group. >> Great.

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All right, >> Ella. >> Sorry, I have another thought and that was based on the conversation at the city council that I think people are going to or I think that somehow we should be clear in the marketing Jonah that the master plan

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is adopted. It's an iterative document, but it's done. >> Yep. >> And then we're seeking feedback on these implementation actions. >> I don't want to um overpromise or misadvertise what we're seeking feedback on.

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>> Yep. Yeah. Good thought. >> Yeah, George. >> Yeah. A couple things. One, we're seeking engagement with the master plan is another way of putting it. um you know they're they're there and we're seeking people to get involved.

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>> And the other thing I wanted to mention is the um I appreciate um Amy um uh coming up with this uh table from the 2020 um uh downtown event that we had.

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>> Nancy came up with a table full. >> I just ordered it in I just I sent it to her. >> My god. And and you got to know this was so close to co coming and this was a

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jam-packed event downtown. Oh my god, >> it was amazing. >> It was great. And um >> and one thing when you mentioned Amy's about having a uh something for people to write on, I think you said um things

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that SDIC has accomplished. And I just want to be clear, it's not it's not what this committee has accomplish. It's just >> the city has accomplished through the master plan. >> Yes. The master plan things that have been completed. So yeah, thank you. >> Thank you for that. >> Wonderful,

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>> Max. >> Yeah, I would say a way that you could um involve engagement is asking people like what they want counselors to put forward next. Like, >> so if somebody's really passionate about

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lawn mower and mower friendly for pollinators, then like sure, I'll go hard on that, but just give us some direction. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's a great point. >> Prioritization. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> Awesome. Okay. Anything else on this topic? >> Yeah, just appreciate everybody's input. That's really helpful. I feel like we're going to get a good crowd. Uh, and >> it'll be a great event. >> It's awesome.

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Great. All right. Um, moving on to Main Street complete streets project discussion of requests from the mayor that SGC engage in research around experience of other communities that have gone through this process.

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Who's taking the lead on that? >> I can take this one. Awesome. >> And Ella can chime in. I sent around a sheet. I think I had been asked to um come up with a scope and a list of other municipalities. So, I just um took a few

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minutes to think through exactly what the mayor is hoping for, try to articulate what the mayor is hoping for from SGIC. And I I uh I think what the mayor and um certainly my department are looking for support in are looking at other

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communities that have navigated this process with an eye in particular towards communication and mitigation um and helping us avoid those pitfalls or look for those good examples and use those.

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And as a project that is um moving forward multiple um master plan goals, this felt to the mayor like something that SGIC um would want to be supportive of. >> So >> sorry. Could you tell me what you mean by mitigation?

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>> Sure. So during the construction of Main Street, undoubtedly small businesses will be hurt and so um what do other communities event do if anything to help mitigate against >> that impact? Um >> thank you. >> Sure. So I wrote down just what the

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city's um goals are, not for the whole project at large, but for specifically what we're talking about with SGIC. Um, and and I think the biggest one that I have to keep reminding myself of is that this isn't a project that's just

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happening in a bubble, but this is an ongoing process of implementing the master plan that included the downtown revitalization work that George was just talking about. Um, that includes all of this housing development that's happening and that includes this main

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street redesign. And so I think that that narrative gets lost frequently because people freak out about bike lanes or parking and then we're only talking about this project in a vacuum. And so I would I would love SGIC's support in in finding ways that we could

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talk about this as master plan implementation um and as part of an ongoing process. Mhm. >> So, I'm happy to answer questions and Ella, feel free to jump in if I've left something out or fumbled the ball. George,

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>> thanks. I appreciate Amy, you putting this together, give it that scope and also give all the examples you gave. And I I just got such a chuckle about the dinner in the dirt example. That's It was just uh very cute. Um, but I want I

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wonder seriously if uh it would make sense. This is such a big task. Um, and I wonder if it would make sense. Um, it it's the kind of thing like if we're all going to do it, no one's really going to do it. And I wonder if we should have a

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a concentrated um working group um a subgroup of the committee who feel they can put some concentrated work into this and then report back uh to the committee. So that's that's just a a

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thought I wanted to throw out there. >> Um I'll call on myself. I have two things. One is um I think this is a great idea to have uh the committee work on it. I also for

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myself feel like I really need an update of where we're at because I felt like um Marlo was kind of updating um and I it feels like so much time has passed. So, I'm curious where we actually are in the process, especially as far as like researching what other communities have

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done. Um, that would help me understand where we're jumping in. Um, cuz I know with the GBA, I still get sort of questions and feedback from business and property owners. Um, and like they're still arguing about bike lanes and if

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like that's a done deal of like where they're going and what they look like and all of that, I want to I want to be able to communicate that. Um, and then the other piece of it is that I think this would also, especially in the forming of maybe some sort of

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subcommittee, um, I think it would be wonderful to potentially pull some business owners and or property owners into that subcommittee and that this would be a great opportunity for SGIC to create

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another space um, similar to the open space task force. where we're engaging other stakeholders um because I think those folks have a lot to contribute to the research to the view um and I would

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definitely a love to be on that subcommittee for SGIC but also love as the GBA to maybe identify some of those people and and invite them and think through like what we would really be looking for in including

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other folks. Ella, >> I've been talking a lot. I'm happy to defer to someone else if there's a response. >> Go for it. Nope. >> Um, I think that's really fair, Hannah, to

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ask for what's the update. Um Jonathan from the mayor's office prepared a really good um update that I am using as a cheat sheet right now. >> Great. >> The project is currently in the design phase um and there's going to be final

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public outreach pretty soon in the fall of this year and then construction is planned to begin in summer 2029. >> Great. Can you say more about the construction

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length of time and starting ending? >> Uh, it would last three to four construction seasons with completion in 2032 or 2033. >> Um, >> and will Bank Street be physically closed that entire time, those three years?

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>> No, that's not written down, but I'm sure it won't be. um that I mean it's definitely a good question of which areas will be impacted. I'm sure that you know that's something to consider. Um Hannah, I

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really like your idea of a subcommittee that expands the umbrella. I think that that's the kind of recommendation that at least I'm looking to get out of this initial research of like it really helps to have a group of city staff, very

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committed volunteers who are well-versed in city policy and goals and some local business local businesses working closely with city staff throughout the whole process.

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Like I think that other municipalities might what I'm imagining is like six phone calls to see what has worked and what hasn't worked in other cities. And I think that kind of subcommittee might be a might be

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one of the findings of like that would be really helpful. But I'm hesitant to do that just yet because I want to know what the pitfalls of that are or when forming the committee if it's really important to

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get a bike shop on that committee or it's really important that that committee doesn't have any city staff and is a separate thing. You know what I mean? >> Definitely. I will call myself. So Ella, it sounds

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like we're we're actually sort of what in my mind is kind of like we're like pre-RO inquiry. We're very much like like are you looking for someone for example to make six phone

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calls and that's really where we are cuz that that to me is different than this committee doing research. That's sort of like one or two people doing some like real hands-on

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interviewing. >> Well, I defer to Amy. I stepped in and she's preferred she's prepared the scope. >> He's making defer to Amy. No, >> you were doing great. Keep going. >> Yeah, I think six phone calls is really helpful, right? And so, someone's got to

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do that. It can't be done as a group. Um, so >> I think where, yeah, where I'm at is I would like to wind up with some of this information and I don't have the capacity to get it. And I don't want to presume I know what the best method is for this committee to move towards that

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work. And so I would love some help from this committee in moving the ball forward. And maybe the first step is yes, six phone calls with two committee members to start and then we regroup and come back and say, okay, here's what we're here's what our plan is. But we're still identifying. We've not yet

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identified who those six calls are. Is that >> who the two people are? >> I'm I'm I'm just trying to like scope out like like really where you all are in in the help needed like like do we need to identify who

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those six calls are too? >> So I identified 11 entity 11 towns that have gone through this. There's >> okay >> I'm sure copious more >> um >> I mean I >> I feel like if I'm going to go through

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and pick out the six entities honestly I could just make the six phone calls and then come back to the committee like I don't want to overengineer. >> No, but I mean I don't I don't think it's unreasonable to get help with those calls. That's what I'm trying to understand is like really what's the

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work or is it that we're really eyeing what the work is together or is it that we >> For me the work is we have a main street redesign coming up. >> Yeah. And I am watching other communities do a really poor job of navigating this and I don't want

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Greenfield to do that. And I know that this project is part of the master plan implementation. And so I just speaking for myself in my department am turning to this committee and saying help me yeah put together a plan so that we

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don't make the same mistakes these other communities are making. And I I do agree with Ella that bringing in business owners right out of the gate now feels to me >> scary because I because I think I don't necessarily know what it is that I'm looking for.

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>> Um >> yeah. >> Okay, that's helpful. That's helpful. Nancy and then >> of the 11 towns that you have listed here, do you know? Oh, well actually I was going to ask, do

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you know which ones have been have done a good job and which ones have maybe not? >> I haven't gotten that in the weeds. >> Okay. You don't know that level of >> and I think good job is subjective. I'm I'm I guess my right now people not doing a great job. Is Northampton just

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not they're not doing a great job but they're experiencing so much blowback that I would like us to avoid. So, so I I could imag you know, first I was thinking, "Oh my god, this is way beyond an SG, I think." But, but I I could

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imagine myself calling one town, >> finding the right person. That's the trick. I guess it would be someone in probably the planning department, I assume. >> I think it could vary. But anyway, figuring out who that one person is and

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just having a deep discussion about how it all went and then bringing that back to the committee of >> this is what they did. It worked, it didn't work, whatever. >> Yeah. She even had a >> kind examples of questions

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>> that would be maybe helpful, but but I really enjoy pe picking people's brains about how things go. >> All right. >> Yeah. So I could imagine do taking one town. Great Brand, >> I won't say which businesses, but um

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I've heard some business owners grumbling very loudly about previous, you know, construction and how it impacted their businesses. Uh >> you know, on Federal Street coming a little bit down off of Maine, you can imagine. Um,

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I really love this project because I feel like the community engagement that we had before I was involved when we made this master plan, like that's that's what I think our our charter includes. Mhm.

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>> Um, and I would love to see us survey all the business owners with a survey, just, you know, something that goes out that they can go and fill in and that'll identify the level of concern that people have and how much people want to be followed up with. And as far as like

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not having Amy do all the follow-up. No, I'm not talking about that Amy. I can say you're looking at me like, you know, >> a survey from this committee out to businesses is definitely not >> then maybe the survey it doesn't come out from the committee. Maybe it comes out from the mayor's office or something, but we could create it.

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>> I see a finding of this committee being like, "Hey, here's three towns that did a survey and it worked brilliantly because look, they found out all this information and look, this town over here didn't do a survey and it's been a train wreck." >> Yeah. >> Um, and then >> but you see the mayor's office doing the

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survey, not us. If we find that a survey is a good >> That's what I see. Although maybe you would find that, you know what, the mayor's office did a survey here and that was terrible cuz people were pissed at the mayor about whatever and the chamber did it in this town and it worked much better. I have no idea. I

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don't want to presume, but I don't think for a project of this magnitude that this committee should be casually sending out surveys. Like that feels to me like it could go way off the rails. >> Oh yeah. Wouldn't say casually. Um I

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just I don't know what the capacity is of any of the other departments or the mayor's office to analyze. Yes, AI can analyze um and just incorporate and have I mean ultimately the feeling of these business owners that they are being

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>> cared for or involved or engaged with because to me like if the SGC is the committee that people identify as the one who cares for and engages with people around planning issues I don't know what would be a better thing for us unless there's a better person a better

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um department or person to have that reputation who has the capacity to take that reputation. But if nobody wants it, I feel like we're leaving money on the table by not trying something. >> Um, I'll just say I'm I feel like it's starting to formulate for me a little

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bit the sort of steps of this. So, it's like if if SGIC conducts helps to conduct research, survey turns out to be something good and then there's sort of a step of like, all right, well, where does that come from? and this town send it out through the chamber or a GBA pen

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organization and this town send it out through the mayor's office. So, but we're kind of earlier than that. We're sort of like, yeah, survey good. That's what we're looking for. >> Yeah. I feel like right now all I is big big plan coming. Would love to

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have a plan to get through it. >> Exactly. >> Okay. >> Know that we need help in capacity wise coming up with that plan and making it a good one. >> Yes. I'm just I'm just getting a little granular of like of totally different. Yes. Awesome. That's helpful,

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>> Ella. >> Um I see um building off of NY's point, I see and like trying to figure out, okay, what are the next steps? I think it would be really helpful as a group to review a set of questions. >> And Nancy, I totally didn't go off

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script, but it would be good just to know like, okay, what information should be should we like what five questions should definitely be asked? and then to brainstorm and draft a set of st stakeholders because I think that's the other interesting point you bring up Nancy is like I think the planning director is a good person in each of

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these towns but also who are the other leaders that were really important who were the Nancy Hazards what role do they have um >> so I think it might be more than one perspective in each town if possible

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so it's listing the stakeholders listing the questions I just want to say I really like that idea because I'm thinking it actually would be interesting to talk to the GBAs of the other towns um and maybe a couple of business owners in the other towns or something. I like

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that. I like those two things as next steps and then maybe identifying just the towns that we have the capacity and want to start with. >> Yeah. I'll call on myself. So, I'm curious then if we feel like forming a

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subcommittee makes sense or if this is something that every member of the committee feels inclined to sort of take a town or like

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is this work that we could do as a committee together because it is a lot of work even if it's just first sort of identifying a few stakeholders in each town and that's step one. And then we're going to have a conversation about how we're reaching out to those towns.

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That's step two. And then at some point maybe it becomes subcommittee kind of thing because not everyone's going to jump on a phone and call people and that's fine. I'm wondering if there's some tears. Amy and then George been talking a lot too. I feel like

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>> I feel like as a committee it would be great to holistically come up with a set of questions. I think that would be a productive conversation as a group. >> Yeah. >> Um and do a quick brainstorm of just types of stakeholders, planning director, business association director as a group.

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>> And then I do suspect that this will become a subcommittee. >> Love it. That's clarifying. I think George >> I think I was just echoing that based on what Ella was saying coming up with a list of basic questions and a rough idea

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of uh stakeholders who might be uh trying to seek out would be a basic first steps. >> Great. Other thoughts maybe first step, second step. Yeah. >> Well, I guess I a thought or a question

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just to wrap trying this up. So, would you want do we want to just spend five or 10 minutes at the our next monthly meeting to sort of put the stuff on the table that are going to be asked about or do you

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want a few people to raise their hand and have a separate meeting? >> I like option one. I think at the next meeting it's just an agenda item and we dedicate 10 15 minutes or something >> to 30 minutes to um come up with the questions.

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>> Yeah. Love that. >> I think if we're going to do it, let's do it. 30 minutes. Let's like get into some work here. >> Yeah. I don't think it'll take that long, but don't get me wrong. >> We're going to create a subcommittee. Do we need to >> No, we're not going to create a

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subcommittee. >> We're not going to create a subcommittee yet. No, I suspect we might at our I suspect we might >> shortly. >> Yeah. Okay, sounds good. >> I love it. >> Any other thoughts then before we move

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on around this Main Street Complete Streets agenda item for next month? All right, perfect. And you captured what we're doing next month. Amazing teamwork. Yeah.

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All right. Uh we are going to move on then to review of the SGIC charter. Um we're going to review the existing charter and then uh if there are additional steps we want to take with it we will put that on a

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future agenda. So for now we're just going to review someone taking a lead on review >> and share the link to it for everybody if people would like that. >> Okay. >> Where is that on the agenda? Number eight. >> Number eight.

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>> Okay. And and Oh, I see. And then it got sort of bumped by the climate leader communities got designated as number >> I added the climate leader communities in on just on the city calendar as a as an addition. But um now that Carol can't

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make it just >> Why don't I just read the purpose and goals piece? That's all. >> I want to be sure that anyway that it doesn't get lost. That's all. >> Okay. Sorry. Sorry. So um and and I don't have anything specific about it. I just thought that after everything that we've been through it might be good

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>> just see. So the sustainable green field implementation committee shall be the entity responsible for coordinating the implementation of sustainable green field the city's master plan. So you know that's one piece. Are we

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still seeing that that's how we should be judged in terms of our impact as a committee? because there's still live coordination of that implementation driving our work. Um the second, additionally, the sustainable green field implementation

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committee's purpose is to assist the city in meeting its green community obligations and 2050 goals by identifying, recommending, and implementing programs. identifying, recommending, and

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implementing programs that foster a vital, sustainable, and resilient community by addressing the oil depletion and climate change crisis and the three interlocking aspects of sustainability, the economy, the

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environment, and society. And like you know that last part identifying, recommendation and recommending and implementing programs that address oil depletion, climate change crisis and the interlocking

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aspects of sustainability of the economy and environment society like seems very immense >> and it also seems very different in character from implementing the master plan. uh because implementing the master plan feels

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like very very leftbrainy functional bureaucratic stuff like I'm sure that any implementation committee any place else if they such existed would all be doing similar kinds of things if you just imagine what that is whereas the second one just seems very

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visionary >> very divergent as opposed to convergent very right rightrain and holistic rather than leftrain and functional. >> And the culture of a committee that would be that way that would have that,

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you know, divergent holistic what's going on as well as the makeup of it, it's just so different than the first one. >> Um, and if we just viewed ourselves as the first one, you know, we could then just look at, you know, what do we

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consider to be the live actionable master plan now? because I know we've had conversations the last meeting we had about how much different departments are referencing the 2014 plan still um do we want to just become that that

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group you know >> because that's our charter or do we want to become the you know the the visionary you know forward- seeeking people in these various areas the economies environment society and able

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to surface well I guess it says uh identifying, recommending, and implementing programs. So basically, you know, suggesting that to the mayor, the city council or whatever. And I I just didn't know how to like work with all this. So I just wanted to bring it

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forward. >> So it has just two goals. >> Just has anything. >> There's two sentences. So right >> there's a lot more in there. George has his hand up. George.

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>> Yeah. Um I I know that um I was surprised when we were adding this that this wasn't included in the materials that everyone had an opportunity to read. I don't know if I I had printed it out. Um this is chapter 186 of the city

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charter. So I assumed everyone would have it in front of them to read themselves. And it's it's different when you read it and when you hear it read. Um so um I appreciate um uh Bram bringing it forward to you know consider

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what our um stated um purpose and goals are. It's always good to refresh uh and and look at what uh these are. Um and then there's um a second section uh we hadn't gotten to yet to uh about

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specific um steps to work toward um that purpose. Um, so I I just wanted to say um it's it's helpful to have all the materials in front of us as we as we um you know consider um consider this and

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it sounds like Bram's suggesting considering uh a shifting of uh this that has been established uh by the city council. So uh 10 years ago or more. So >> just throwing

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>> just just throwing out >> she said capability share screen. >> Should I stop talking? I hear other people talking. >> Sorry. I'm sorry. We were trying to address something Ella said in the >> Ella wants to show the

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>> I did not mean to interrupt George. Please carry on with George's comment. >> Just if if you're talking about something in the Are you talking about something in the chat? >> Yeah. Just to point out, uh it's not uh allowed by open meeting law to put anything in the chat because that is not

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uh something that's not something that anyone who's not um in the meeting can see. >> Ella was just asking to be allowed to share her screen. >> Gotcha. Gotcha. I'm just saying I'm just pointing that out because I know we've had a few things and it's been read what was in the chat, but just just pointing

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out that it's it's not allowed by open meeting law to have chat exchanges during during a public meeting. >> And also Amy, I just shared with you, so if you checked your email, you could share your screen, too. >> Okay, I have Ella, you're all set, though.

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>> Yeah. So, >> George, was there one second? George, was there anything else. Sorry, we got a little off track with sharing screen. No, >> that meets meets the purpose of what I was suggesting that everyone have a chance to look at this.

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>> Great. Um Nancy and then Jonah. >> Um Bram, you've brought this up issue before and have pointed out that uh that is not what this committee does. Um and

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you've made that pretty clear. So I I would say if this committee wants to have a discussion about it that we should put that on a future agenda. Yeah. But not there's not enough time to have that discussion today. >> Agreed. By design, Jonah.

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>> Okay. >> Uh yeah, you know, we've talked about this a bit before. I think before Bram was on the committee. Um, >> and I think we've talked about just the immense descript like the amount of work that's described is immense. Even if it

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was paired down, it would be immense for a team of volunteers. Uh, and I guess I wonder, you know, in practice, we are doing parts of this a small small parts what we're capable of. Uh, and I don't

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know that it the wording says that we must do all of this. it like we are able to do all of this. >> Uh so I guess I wonder if it's if it's an issue having it be broader than we are currently working on leaving the door open for uh us to evolve and work

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on different things in the future but that's going into the discussion which it sounds like we're tableabling. So just >> we're about to Nancy >> I have a technical question. What would be involved if we wanted to change those words? Is

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that uh since this committee was it formed? It's an ordinance with the state. So the state has to oversee it, has to look at it. >> It's the charter. >> So we can't change. >> It's a charter, right? So to change it, we'd have to

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It's a big charter change. Is that accurate? >> No, I think you just have to submit the changes to ANO >> appointments and committee. Got it. >> All right. Nancy, do you know Katherine Golib?

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>> Yes. Well, not well, but I know her name certainly. >> Um, I can give you her email, but she would tell she would know exactly what to do when this She's the chair of appointments and ordinances. >> Okay. I just didn't want to get into a long discussion. >> Yeah. >> Before we knew what we were getting

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into. >> Yep. I'm >> Yeah. No, she would give you the the details. >> Great. I will call on myself. So I think my question and this sort of goes to what

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Jonah was saying is do we feel the that it is necessary to spend time changing the charter that doesn't keep us from doing the work we're doing now but leaves the door open for potential future work. If we feel

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that that is necessary, we can put it on a future agenda. And if we do not feel that it is necessary, I think that we should put it to bed. And I'm happy to hear anything on the committee about yes, let's put it on the

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agenda, have a longer discussion about changing it and go down that road if it feels very important. And I'm happy to hear interest in putting it to bed if that's how that feels. Max. >> Uh, George has had his hand up for a

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long time first. >> Oh, I can't see. I can only see you for some reason. Sorry, George. >> Thank you, Max. Um, I I think it's um very premature. I think it's very premature to think about changing this. I think it's very

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premature to think about contacting the chair of ANO. Uh if you look at what we I think it's wise to reflect on the charter. This is probably something we should do every year at the start of the year just to refresh what what our uh

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charge is. If you look at what we just read, it references uh the city's green community obligations and its 2050 goals. I haven't seen those uh at least not in a long time. And so those are probably

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things since that's part of our charter we should have made available to us and we should read and so we should be informed on what is in our charter >> before we do anything think about. >> So I I just suggest this is it's this is

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the long hall. This is >> a master plan >> and we don't try to jump and say okay we're not doing everything. As Jonah said, a lot of things touch on different things and we haven't even gotten to all the, you know, part part B about all the

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small steps that are taken. So, I suggest it's good to reflect on it. Let's look at those two. I suggest we get those two documents available to us to further reflect and not do anything. Uh, there's no rush on this. Thank you.

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>> Great, Max. >> Yeah. Um, after hearing George, I would say yes. And I think like I'm on appointments and ordinances and they do a review of the charter every 5 years

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like just updating like maybe you need to update language of things. And so it's not I don't think it's a big scary process. I think it's just, you know, I think you could do it yearly if you wanted to be like, what do is there is there a word or like, you know,

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eventually we'll get the climate leadership designation and will we want to add that to the description? So, yeah, nothing has to be like rushed, but I don't also I don't I don't want you to be afraid to change it because it's not a huge scary issue.

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>> Hey, thank you for that. Other thoughts? if if I because it's the last opportunity. Um it's obviously is not urgent.

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>> Um as somebody who's now been on the committee for eight months or something, um I don't really see that second part in our work. Um, I don't I'm not totally

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and so it's hard for me as a committee member to just assess, you know, what why am I here? What am I here to do? Um, and you guys know is like even though I'm new, I've been kind of nudging to try to figure out what we're up to. Maybe above my station. And so I certainly wouldn't want to drive this

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process if nobody else thought it was important. But um, I mean I'm I'm a rule follower. Like if somebody says here's your assignment, then that's the assignment I take. And if I don't understand the assignment, I'm like teacher help. And I don't understand

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this assignment. And if no one else feels that way, if I'm the only one who feels that way, then you know, sure, we can let it go. >> Other thoughts, Jonah? I just want to say that I totally appreciate that perspective and as Hannah, Nancy, and

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George can attest to, I that were my those were some of my first questions when I started and we spent a lot of time talking about what are we even doing here? Um, so I totally appreciate that perspective and I and I really like George's idea of an annual review that's just like making sure we're centered on

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what we're what we're doing. Uh so I think there is a bit of a middle ground between these somewhat different perspectives we have uh that involve us being a little more intentional about reviewing that and making sure we're on track uh while not necessarily going

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through a total revamp of our uh charter. Max, >> another option instead of going through a charter change, like if you're going to do a yearly review, you could just do like a five-year plan of like we want to

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accomplish this this year. So every year you're like, these are our top five goals of getting the sustainable plan covered. >> Yeah. >> There's less paperwork to go through that way. >> Yeah. Um,

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I also think one thing to keep in mind and I think about this piece of it a lot is we are due for a master plan update and we've been doing that as best we can I think in you know the sort of chapter by chapter and and

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looking for funding to update the economic development chapter and so it makes me wonder if we as we continue to update that will help us not only continue to look at the charter for alignment, continue to um think about

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what the sort of top cop priorities are. Um but I think I wouldn't want to remove something that we then go back and add back in when we get like that windfall of money and get to refresh the whole entire

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plan. I think I read in this charter the energy that there was when this plan was created and I think that the charter had this committee had really big goals and achieved a lot of those goals because the energy was high and the plan

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was new and I think that that will happen again when we get a chance to update more. I think we're in a little bit of a holding pattern for financial reasons. I actually think that re doing each

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chapter or now two chapters has is an incredible opportunity to revital. I don't think you're you need to wait for the entire I don't feel like I'm in holding pattern at all. I feel like we have huge momentum because we have two new chapters and we can focus on them

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and we have an open space task force which is the first time we've been working working to get that. We have that. I think there's this huge momentum and then if Amy can move forward the next chapter that would be really exciting. So, um >> yeah,

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>> I think we're moving well and I'm turn passage time. >> Yeah. >> Um and I will just add to that, you have like the crunchiest council ever. This is our dream. >> Oh, and we're nothing. It's It's only

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going to get better. >> Yay. I love it. >> Thank you. All right. Um, hold on. We're not Oh, I thought we were >> No, I have something to say about it. >> Oh, okay. >> That's why I put it on.

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>> Oh, got it. I think we thought that was uh dependent on Carol. So, okay. >> And I just wanted to offer a time check. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Um, so is this going to be an

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announcement? announcement. >> Well, it's on the agenda as agenda item eight. It's on is Carol presenting and Carol couldn't make the meeting, but >> yes, Nancy said that she had something. So, Nancy, go ahead. >> Okay. Um, this has been on the agenda now for uh 3 months or four months.

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Exactly. And I I did want to report that um and when apparently Carol put it in an email that she attended um the ANO meeting. Which meeting was it? Is that right? Where there was a discussion

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about one aspect of becoming a climate leader and which was to for the city council to accept the um EVO only or however you want to refer to um ordin which Carol has been doing all along.

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So, it's really more a question of the city council uh rubber stamping that. Um, but I I did want I've been sending out little emails from time to time about the climate leader program and I I feel a great urgency to move forward

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because there's about $50 million in in the pool and each town who gets to be a climate leader has access to $1 million. >> 35 committee communities have already done it and so

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that It may not be there for us unless we keep moving forward. And I'm not quite sure. >> Nancy, could I interrupt? >> Yep. >> It'll be on the next full council meeting and we'll pass it.

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>> Right. So that's one piece. So then there's the other pieces which need to be uh done. So, so when Laura Wandowski came here, she was making the request that SGIC become the committee. So, if we did that, this committee did that,

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we'd have to do that or find a different committee to do that. There's also the um the code updating that has to happen, which is the thorniest piece to get through the the the town and the city council. So I just wanted to

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>> I I mean >> express my urg feeling of urgency about moving this forward. >> Yeah. The the language is already written and it's already gone through its first meeting. So the next ANO meeting it'll have its first reading and

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then it'll get put. So it's written it's up to code. Like Carol is already doing it essentially. We would just be enacting it into law. So you're talking about the EV only thing or are you talking about the the building codes? >> The zero emissions first vehicle

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>> vehicle. Okay. Yeah, that one I'm I feel is moving well and we're Yeah, we're going forward >> and then we're going to tackle the building code after that. >> Okay. >> Which will be >> when it happens. >> Harder than the DB one, but we'll get

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there. We'll do it. >> Thank you. >> Yep. Thank you for letting me have Yeah. >> few words on the agenda. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um so we have four minutes left. Do we want to talk about future meeting

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cancellation quickly? >> Sure. For meeting cancellation. I was just hoping that if a meeting is going to be cancelled, the decision is made at the previous meeting and that the only reason to cancel a meeting

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after a previous meeting when we understood that one was happening would be some emergency that we could do nothing about. That wasn't what happened last time. So, do people have a different idea? Should meetings be cancelled in between one

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meeting and another for people wanting to go and do something different than than meet. >> I think it's unrealistic to know at this meeting whether or not to cancel the next meeting. >> So I that I wouldn't be in favor of. I just don't think that's realistic.

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>> But what would be reasons that would come up between this and next? That would be a reason for canceling >> lack of forum. Well, okay. So, there's so if there's lack of quorum and we come here and there isn't a quorum, there's a process for canceling the meeting. I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that

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discovering that we're going to have a lack of quorum because members have another priority and then leading to the meeting being pre-ancled rather than us showing up and going, hm, we don't have enough people. I have a problem with that personally because I feel if this is an important

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committee then it's incumbent on all of us if we have options to put them aside and meet here. So, do we want to do we feel comfortable defining a protocol of if there are members of the committee

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that are not able to make it? I mean, we what we've been doing traditionally is sort of having people sound off over email that they are able to come to make sure that we don't sort of arrive to find that we don't have quorum.

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And so, are we talking about amending that to say Are we talking about amending that? >> I think what Graham is saying is I shouldn't prioritize a lecture over SGIC. And I'm saying that I don't 99% of

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the time. I think in the three and a half years that I've been on SGIC, I've missed maybe two meetings. And so I don't feel like we need a policy for that because that's not a practice. Um there are plenty of people who don't show up and don't send an excuse. I was proactive because I

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felt like that was the right thing to do. So, I don't feel like we need a >> This isn't personal to you at all, but I mean, what I what I remember happening was that three people on the committee all said, you know, I want to go to that thing and then there was a decision. I guess we should cancel the meeting. Of

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course, then you said that, well, you hadn't put it on the calendar, so it wouldn't have been possible to have it at any point. But my feeling is, and it turned out to be something we could have seen online, but my feeling is if the committee feels like we should have more than one member go to a thing because

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it's important to the committee, then there should be a delegate that goes to that thing. But if three people on the committee all decide this is something else that we would rather do than come to the committee and as a result the committee doesn't meet, to me that's a problem. But if it's not a problem for anybody else,

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>> it's not a problem for me because I feel like it. almost never happens because I think we all show up to this meeting. >> I'm going to call on myself and then Max, I'll come to you. I also just want to clarify because I feel like it's an important difference to say this to me

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was in this particular instance was less about committee members deciding that they wanted to go to something else and the planning director and economic development director of our city going to a lecture that I think is not only

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helpful to the city but is important to the master plan as well. And I think making sure that we're leaving room to weigh what it is that people are needing to prioritize is also really important. Max, yeah, I will add my two cents from

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recently switching over to the having to smoo life. Um, sometimes you got to go in person unfortunately. And um I also yeah like there are there are people who

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are designated to this meeting who never show up and never will. Um and the fact that we all make it here monthly and um I can also say that as a city councelor and an city person you get lastm minute invites to things like every single day.

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Um, so yeah, I I hear that. I don't know. I hear all sides of it, but I think there has to be flexibility because it's such a large moving thing. Well, so if we can't have a meeting

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because we don't have a quorum, but a quorum is large in a way because we have a large committee, but as Max just said, some of these committee members never or almost never show up. That doesn't seem fair to me. Like, should we get should

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we reduce the size or I don't know. It just doesn't seem fair that we don't meet quum because some people never show up. >> And then the ones who always show up the one time they don't show up then >> you know, right? >> When is our quorum? 6

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9 6 >> I think our committee is 11. >> 11. >> All right. So in the interest of time and I appreciate everyone staying a couple minutes late. Um what if we

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set a more sort of clear protocol around if there are committee members who must attend something else for some reason or attend a family or what have you when the committee is made aware which we ask is as early as possible. Um, the way Amy

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preemptively emailed, we expect every member to sound off on their ability to come so that we can count quorum. and I as chair will commit to reaching out to members that don't respond to

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that and pushing to make sure that it's not a feeling of, you know, oh well, a couple people aren't going, so I'm going to come up with an excuse not to go and we're just going to put a mark. So, we as a committee are recommitting to

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everyone trying our best to to be here. Does that feel >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Love it. Okay, >> thank you. >> Yes. Um,

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so we are over time. I don't know the um George can tell me what happens if we skip announcements and updates or we can all say that we would love to be here for another 10 minutes but actually have to go to another meeting.

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Unfortunately, we're missing the outcome of the meeting that you >> I will just say it really quickly that it was a really interesting lecture. It talked about multiple projects and I had been hoping that it would focus on Northampton's main street redesign um in a whole because that was the most relevant piece. Um, but the takeaway for

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me was where Northampton is struggling and where I think Greenfield has time to not face the same challenge is is this idea that um even though you've talked about it and had robust public engagement in year one, that doesn't mean that you can't continue to talk

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about it and have that robust public engagement down the road because there are new people. circumstances might have changed and that part of what Northampton is struggling with is they talked about it once and there was public engagement and there hasn't been that ongoing thing even if you're saying the same thing every year um that

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there's something to be said for that continuity of communication. I thought that was helpful to hear. >> Would you recommend us watching the recording? >> I don't know that you need to watch the whole thing but up to you. >> Um I don't think I have a link to it. Did anybody manage to get that? had at one point and I keep meaning to watch it

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and then it keeps vanishing. >> I can try to find it on you. I'm sure it's >> send it around again. >> We lost uh all right in it. Um interest of time um there move to

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>> do that second. >> Great. All in favor? >> Roll call. >> Oh, roll call. Emma >> I. >> Nancy. >> Yes. >> Bram. >> Yes. >> Max. >> Yes. >> George. >> Yes. Dona, >> yes. >> Amy, >> yes. And I say yes. Next meeting is May

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28th. >> Thank you. >> At 400 p.m. right here or there. Be there. And you got it.