just trying to pull so I know that you're a sign off right so we're a sign off okay oh yeah because if there's any demolition then that would that would apply to us I suppose so you need a motion then we get
to approve what he's proposing you need a motion I move that we approve the plan as we've just seen it a second yeah Sarah okay all those in favor thank you thank
you right so you aren't submitting a project notification form to mass historic no because you're Notting so you thought about pickle ball for that listen they want to make six more ports at Ari field okay pickle ball is
taking the nation St we don't cannot stand in the way of pick a ballen it's a phenomenon and we're gonna get caught anyway thank you Steve sorry problem Dennis had a baby it is very
popular and you know who's yeah I don't three four times a week it's very popular yeah it really you're right it is before we go on to the next topic and I make just make a comment uh one of the
things that happens communicate is that you tend to get emails that have a subject line that doesn't relate to the subject which is just what you just ran into trying to find yeah and so what you need to remind
yourself is if you're doing an appal change the subject line to reflect what you put in there not what's in the original or send a new email to everybody because otherwise what happens is you end up with a subject that's here
on this first original email and you end up with five emails each one is slightly different and then middle in the middle of change well no no it's not new email a new email right just
reply on because those are the people that you can change the subject mind reply what what keep it in mind is a problem because you just demonstrated the problem with it and I run into it all the time because I'm on evenes all over the place and I'm constantly trying
to find the one that's got the Bea Link in it it's hidden in the middle of six others you know so just saying group teams go there I just have teams as a chat for exchange of communication like on like not official
communication but like hey are we meeting on this day oh here's that attachment off well I mean like our emails are back to the project that he was just talking about I was reading article the other day I'm glad you brought up about
theing the windows and apparently I think it was for the Planning Commission there's someone who has an issue with dispensaries because of that because they feel it's a blight on Main Street because they have to secure the
windows I personally disagree with it but I just wanted to get that out there that this is an argument being made I know right some kind of an issue that's fortunately not in our P thank heavens well we can actually
comment want uh no no think yeah with that any wor whiteash whiteash brick on the second FL all right well okay new business uh aon's busy let's do
John um okay yes Peter Miller award thank you um we all let's officially vote we have a mo well who we uh so I I think that uh in light of John's recent departure from the historic commission uh we should
I think he's done a lot of service to the town over the years is in preserving the history of Greenfield so I would I would nominate John piglia for the Peter Miller Miller award second second uh let's call a vote all those in
favor I I any opposed no but I will say it was very interesting prior to the meeting we got a small tour and even though John isn't the chair of the commission anymore one of the impacts is actually right there in that room where the Museum's going to be that the old
Weather Vein John piglia actually redid the Weather Vein for them so when the museum is done he gets to kind of echo through in that sense right over here yeah when Museum this whole room right here is going to be the museum it's very
there's an old hand get a part two of the tour that's that's the old pumper there yeah oh I you guys are going to love hello Aon how are you I apologize for that's okay everything it's
been yeah it's been it's been it's great I made it so we're we bring you back up on the agenda thank you so can you describe the mayor's proposed work on the historic stage yes she wants you
guys to find something to do with it so and and obviously that's a gross over verification we have this great Stage Coach it was built in New Hampshire know you know some of the history of it built in Conquer New Hampshire um a conquer coach and it's beautiful it's um at the
DPW we can go visit it someday take a little field trip but um it's it needs repaired and um I think her goal would be if you guys are able to find grants or find somebody who
might be interested in repairing it and and and bringing it back to life for the city um that's kind of within I thought John end up had John Sig I what I think he wanted to it was kind have any
distinct ideas no no he just he just that's one of the reason it was one of his Arguments for having us a a a city museum uh as opposed to several City museums uhuh anyway so that was one of
his arguments that for turning it in but he never had any that never that he told me about a distinct idea for the coach itself I think don't you guys have a grant writer didn't wasn't there a grant writer that did the Grant on the on our
project we do have gr writer yes that being said we are currently facing some unique times regarding Federal budgets really uhhuh it's a little Rowdy in DC right now I'll say that yeah trying to
be vicarious um and I know sometimes you as this committee have known people who are interested in things like Wan dur a store who would be interested in stuff like that that is that is her thought
she was hoping you would have some ideas is at least of where to start because I don't have the time to think about it right now frankly I might have time later well one one place to start would be to would be to try to get something
through CPC to to have someone who knows what they're talking about look at it and tell us give us an estimate of what it would cost to bring it to a condition and and not necessarily a condition to run on the road that is something
that would stop it from what's going to happen one day is it's simply going to collapse in a pile of dust yeah and we definitely don't want going to fall apart because every piece of wood in that thing is shrinking it's all pulling apart it's got a lot of leather in it the leather it's supported on leather
slings that they use instead of Springs those leather things deteriorate and if they break then the coach drops down and breaks it's definitely not in a climate controlled environment it's the so it's bring that forward as an
application for fiscal year 2026 could you it could because the housing director uh is also uh on the CPC I would just recuse myself for from voting for that purpose sure um so we would have to find we'd have to basically pull
all the strings together be like this is what we want to do this is how much it's going to cost this is how long it's going to take and then bring it to the CPC yeah but what the first step would just be to there are people who specialize in that kind of of of refurbishing of vehicles like that there
are people who do that as I said the newspaper in conquer had that done now this has been some years ago but they did have somebody come and take a conquer coach and put it into good conditions so it could be used as a display thing so they might still have
that name I I could contact them and find out but the thing would be to find at least one person who does that sort of uh and then get that and get a find out how much it would cost to have them look at it and then get the grant through the see to pay for that that
appraisal and then once you have the appraisal then you could see what you're talking about and I don't have the bandwidth to do any understand understand that from what you said yeah can see check the question here yeah um if this gets all restored does it have
somewhere to go that's part second no point Resto ing if it's just going to well well there is because if you don't it's going to fall into well yeah but we still need somewhere to go want it yeah but I mean yes you're absolutely right we can find a whole
that need to be part of the gr right if we're lucky um but we would have to I mean there there is a lot to consider but I think step one is to see what you were saying like how much is it g to cost what it GNA take if we got a thing back saying it's going to cost you 100 Grand to get the thing into shape so
that it won't fall apart then that's one thing if you say it's going to cost 30 grand to do it then that's another thing so you know you have to kind of find out what what ballpark you're talking about here yeah because I have no clue I don't know I've never done it so
yeah can the CPC fund studies like yes it's not it's not actual work CPC funding is like you'd have to that would have to be for FY 26 27 y yeah okay yeah the next round
yeah it would be better to just find somebody who would say oh yeah I'll come look at it and tell you what it'll cost and then go for that it seems to me that if we can to that I they'll do it for nothing if you can find somebody will'll
do it for nothing sure well that's risky promise that if if the job is done they'd get the job yeah well and that we can't do though because of Municipal procurement
and true but I I would I would guess that anyone who's like into that sort of work would probably do it just for like would probably look at it just for the love of The Craft and there might be I mean conquer's not that far away there might be people there who are interested in in that particular history
and I can I can make inquiries at the newspaper I don't anybody that works here anymore but I can call up and and and find out uh what who it was that they gave that job to and see if they're still in business probably also pretty
small community yeah of people who do that like oh you're a Massachusetts call Steve exactly right yeah right yeah all right I'll do that okay great I wish there was I I just know that she wanted it it's a good idea she wanted it
preserved in you guys are the people who can help because we can't right now idea yeah yeah propos maybe some not unofficial but like let's enter into agreement maybe we think about a town
Museum in 2030 for this P you know just it's gonna need a home we should Elevate the project no it's the DBW be great if we could have a DPW new yard SL museum with some of the old antique stuff that
there still using yeah that very cool there's a number of things that are sort of stashed around town so you said something before about a museum what were you talking about right here this is going to be a a museum that was uh it was it's was built as part of the firehouse and there's what museum the
firehouse mum room it's just a room but it's a small Museum that's G to be open there so it's G to be just fire stuff yeah and I believe it was funded through donations but I'm not sure for because I was not around so who's doing that
project don't not but I somebody in the fire department yeah I mean I can I I'll I'll message Chief Stan and find out just wonder well F though so we have someone waiting to hear about the next item okay go for um I believe christe
might still be on the phone call is she I don't know I can go look I am oh hi Christie okay talking about the old schol house right yeah right so you you want to make a little
presentation I'm sure I can I yeah I mean I can talk and answer questions I also wanted to just share that I did put a couple companies in your chat about the stage oh cool oh good for you thank you wow that you
know yeah I mean Google's a wonderful thing right right so you are requesting to demolish District number seven Schoolhouse yes yes um so the this
project has um been discussed really since um the fall of 2023 uh this is our second round um of a mayor uh working on this project and finally we have um come to the the bid
that was just returned working with Eric on the demolition of this building our um plan for this is to reestablish a North Severance park because there is really not a park up in the northern
part of Greenfield we want to work with the Greenfield minor league to refurbish the Ballfield and uh the rec commission has goals to put in a um playground area up there because there is no playground and do a little site work as far as possibly
some picnic tables and stuff at the site visit that we had um for the for the bid it was interesting there was some gentleman who actually in the in the 1980s played ball at that field and shared with me and I was unaware but there was snow on the
ground not as much as we have now uh that in the Outfield there's actually like a water fountain and there was picnic tables however the trees have all um encroached on the Outfield and I'm sure that this this spring if I walk out there hopefully I can find where that
Fountain was and that kind of stuff which would be interesting if it still um could be you know turned back on and um yeah so there is a small G set maybe I'm not sure what they call it a hub
maybe that hut hut yeah it's like a little hub for a G set that's right um next to that building as well that obviously would um be left in place and um the building is been vacant for um
longer than I've been here and I've been here approaching 20 years and um there's a lot of lead paint Asbestos and other hazardous materials in that building and the building itself with an inspection by our Building Commissioner needs needed a lot of work
if we were to try and bring it back um for use but it's not anything that um we would would use and um right now it's really hazardous to even bring youth to the ball field cuz there's uh parts of the building that have are falling off
there's broken windows uh just this winter actually was broken into I'm not sure if somebody was trying to to stay in there for shelter um so there was a lot of um concerns about this building and um that's where we are today I'm not sure
what kind of questions you may have for me um but I'll happy to answer anything that I that I can you have funding for the for that project the ball field and that stuff um no that would that's in our our
Capital fan plan um for future obviously we need to demo it and get the site um prepared for the playground but we would be working with the minor league baseball for um some of the infield like turning over the infield and getting some of that stuff ready for spring
use yeah I'm curious I I being new new to Greenfield but similar situations in other places where I had lived and worked in preservation often municipalities have buildings like this they don't want and thinking also of what happened with the church and I think I know there's a lot of work that
would be needed in this building but anytime I see a building and I know that we need housing and think this building I mean in milwauke for example I worked previously like it's a dollar someone take it and take it away and it's yours
and you can have it it's building it sounds like it's moved a number of times already really it looks like from the at least once at least maybe not a number of times at least once sorry um I'm just wondering if a away maybe there is some
to because it's it is a historic it's been around since 1870s if there's a way to preserve the building and create housing out of it somebody wants to take it off of your hands it is tiny but we need and the world doesn't need I mean
right now me I'm not an expert on this but we don't need more like five bedroom houses we need more small I like my parent in-laws were looking for a place to live a house where they could rent that has one bedroom they they don't exist so I'm just thinking and I'm not saying there is this need but if there
is maybe there is I know I don't know if there's a procedure to do that here but in other places municipalities often have the kind of condemned homes list and it's they're Ultra cheap and if someone wants to take it and move it it's a way to preserve what's debatable
whether the structure that exists is going to allow any refurbishment like that it might just be kind of a hollow structure rather than like a fundamentally sound building with insulation and all that also in a lot of cases you can get it for a dollar because the demolition is more expensive
than they want to pay and a lot of CAS when we're talking as bestos and old lead and things like that demolition is cheaper than renovating to make it into liable unit yeah so so what I'm wondering is so this particular building is in the way of
whatever playground project we have but not the G set hut next to it the Huts are pretty small um okay yeah I mean oh yeah it is it is pretty small that do you have a site plan at
all how the would be well obviously the playground would be would be where the the building is and then there would be parking we' expand the parking and then the ball field would remain where it is because we would refurbish the the back stop that's there we would have to put
in some dugouts uh to protect the kids obviously from baseballs and um then there'll just be additional parking because they can't really park on the street there it's a um it's too busy of a road for people to park a lot on the street some would have to be on the
street but we couldn't have two teams worth parking on the street so there's interest in the minor league or the baseball league they said they would use it correct and I don't know I can't really see I can't really see you guys you are
very far away from the camera or what's on your screen but if if you just pull up on Google Maps Margo you can just kind of see the space I don't know if everybody is familiar with the the park up there um I mean the recommission is
is not um doesn't have any desire to to to get rid of this piece of property I'm assuming the mayor would be in agreement but I can't speak for her um I know that this was a place that when we thought we were losing Lunt fields we did all kinds of scenarios to try and figure out how
we could fit three ball fields up here which was um there's no way that could happen unless we cut down all the trees which I didn't want to do um so this has been uh a park um for for ages so we want to maintain it as a park
but just reactivate it for the community as a matter of fact the one of the neighbors across the street during the site visit um walked over and was really happy to hear that we would be bringing this park back to life so that was um nice to hear from an
butter yeah revitalizing the area I think is great at I mean I I had this is the oldest the only it sounds like Wooden Schoolhouse left in Green Field um so I don't know like I personally don't feel
wetted to it staying in this position which is not it's original space like yes let's Revitalize a space that doesn't have a a good use now I just in my mind finding someone to take it and move it somewhere and do so and maybe
someone won't come forward but putting in putting it out there for someone to I mean I know well revamp and put stage coach in it right yeah it's tall enough right I just think it's a shame you know
to in to lose the historic building entirely when it has historic significance to the town when it I mean buildings this small I mean are not as difficult to move I mean this you can put it's a lot easier to move than
some buildings would be and there may be a use for it for housing and what a cool I mean there's old school houses I have friends in Vermont who live in an old school houses that they've moved and renovated and live in you know so these things certainly happen what what what about doing this because could we have
the city run an ad for three months or something or two months or one month whatever saying this you know buy this move it uh you can have it at for buck and and if not then we'll teir it down I mean I think
potentially we could do that I am sure that there are rules about all of that because of Municipal procurement and sales and you have to go through I know that if it is a city property we do have
to go through um the RFP process which is yeah what it is um mean I sorry if I could speak I think um I think that was Tim black who had mentioned that I think that it is
doable as Aaron was saying but there's um multiple Hoops that we would need to go through um to figure out how to do that um and whether it's a dollar or more money than that that could go back to help the city or help us you know
refurbish this park um I think we certainly could look to that as an as an option but um it is approximately I think 960 square feet inside it's not it is not very large um building it does have a bathroom
and which are now that's why I ask you about whether you had the money to do the rest of the work if you got it on your Capital thing you're not ready to do that right now so a little bit of delay by advertising if we have wouldn't hurt you right uh no I I wouldn't say it
would hurt me I I mean minor league would be delayed like they were hoping to use it this spring as I said it's been um since 2023 but I remind everybody that anything in a municipal um state is moves at a snail's pace so um you know
if it's a few more months that we need to figure out um if there's any interested individuals who would want to move it take it apart um I think we could probably look into that when you agree Aaron I would agree with that um
it's yeah it would it it will take time I mean I mean it has hazardous materials so that in and of itself in Massachusetts right yeah I know much less about here throw it on the back of a truck and
drive it down the street yeah well you right but I mean you're still dealing with Hazmat yeah right yeah it has asbest it has lead um and other um hazardous materials is how it was was stated when the um assessment was done
by Aztec I think it was I have to tell you the name you wanted to know and I think because of that ass because it is so there's a lot of yuckiness in it it would my brain is done I apologize for
saying yuckiness in it but that's where I am now it's best this is would deter people from it would it would deter it and it would make it cost prohibitive well like you you probably because of that if I wanted to buy it for a buck and move it over to my
property and drop it down I probably would have to do the Hazmat mitigation before I moved it at all abely someone's got to do Hazmat demol moving
it uh corre correct um the bid was for um handling the hazardous material material and then demoing it and back filling so that it is ready for um for a project to be built um and just clarifying it was
Atlas uh who did the um technical specs for to provide the hazardous material um report and so the bid like I said en Encompass all of it like clearing the stuff so that it's safe to be in there and and and take it apart
and so whoever was to take ownership of the building would have would have to do that for for their safety and the safety of the community you know for moving that kind of stuff in the air as we all know well how did the bids come in is it like a $55,000 haset removal or well a
it was a total project um bid Margo um and it was for 674 that's 67,500 and the lowest bid was um Associated building Wreckers our
friends um and there and there were some that were super super high um so that was the lowest nobody's gonna spend 67,000 you have that's that's the demo and the and
the and the correct it was bit together so hazmats a portion of that right I mean we don't it sounds like we don't know yeah I don't have it's a it was a a combined bid yeah I'm guessing it's half
of it at least because knocking it down is a matter of bringing over a you know machine going then putting it in trucks and you can throw it anywhere after there materials you can't just throw in a landfill
well if City if the city has to do the Hazmat one way or the other if it's a 60 what a $70,000 project to do the Hazmat and the demolition if you do the
Hazmat and sell it for a dollar you're still saving $30,000 by not having it demolished and having someone take it away right so the city is still necessarily because I I don't know if you're gonna find a contractor who would just come in and do Hazmat you
know I don't I don't know okay yeah and then if you're lot of times these projects when you divide it into two portions like that it ends up being a lot more expensive it's like it's like BOGO for hasmat and demo
like well if it's less than the total you're still saving money in the end and saving a building and creating housing I'm not convinced there's a use foring I don't I'm really not I'm not convinc there used for it for housing or
foral it's not I don't even think it's in as good of the shape as the church was honestly like oh it's not no not even close it's not I haven't been inside but it's not structurally sound in any way could
there be a middle ground by like installing a a visual information plaque about what the building and what it was for and how it got to this point just like an educational opportunity that we could be using like a like a toric like
um building I mean um a sign is that what you're again I can't tell who's talking I'm sorry so I can't really respond directly to Sarah yeah is that what you mean like a historic um informational sign like You' said before a building is different than a plaque
but if this building is like kind of Beyond repair then touching on the fact that it was significant to begin with is not a noner if there is money for that yeah that's honestly what it comes down to
and like I I I'm being very Frank about it like we know where things stand in regards to grant funding and federal budgets right now we have to approach everything from that like from the city's perspective every single thing has to be approach from that right now
like but there is 67,000 to do this the 67,000 was already allocated right Christie don't you already have that or um actually no I'm going to correct you so I think it was 40 before so we have been in contact with the mayor to figure out um the difference Eric Eric has been
in in touch okay um I I can um I don't know if this will help or hinder but I can show you pictures um from the inspection if you if I can do a screen share if you're interested um from December of 23 and obviously we can just
assume that you know some of the Interior stuff has certainly gotten worse with the water damage and whatnot in the two years since this um inspection but if it's not necessary that's fine I just went to find it on my drive did I lose you
guys trure to share the screen with you I don't doubt it's in rough shape I mean and there's you know there's no such thing as a building that's beyond repair there's buildings that there's not the will or the money to repair
which is right okay a reasonable assessment buildings but so again this so it looks like can you all see this yes thank you so this was our inspection with Building Commissioner Mark snow in December of of 2023
obviously we didn't have snow that year um so this is the there's a chimney the um upper left picture um and this is the backside on the on the right that's the door that um we entered in at the
time um sliding down this is the basement and I'll tell you I did not go to the basement because the basement stairs have have caved in um I was I was afraid to go down that um I wouldn't get back up um and then some of you I I know
Margot and Tim have been in Greenfield a long time again I'm not sure who else is on the committee but um Bruce Austin was a former Building Commissioner I think maybe in the 90s like he was here when when I was hired in Greenfield um and these things
were still in some of his reports to get fixed um so that's just kind of the history so that you're aware um again you can see some of the water um damage inside on the basement level there
um and the the the Emergency Management used to meet here and ages ago the Civil Air Patrol met here oh yeah here's the stairs you can see with the cones with the ladder and stuff that's what I wouldn't go down um and then this is this is on the
main floor which is the the kitchen area um and the bathroom and then this is more of the exterior all of the bottom windows were were broken I have no idea where these propane tanks I don't know if the public
is uh just discarding stuff with um out of sight out of view I don't know um but those were supposed to have been removed because we didn't know if there were um any propane in them and
roof the ramp the ramp W it was the best if there's anything to salvage I would say it'd be the ramp um I'm not sure what year that was built but that obviously just has some leaf and um tree debris on it but that had to been um the
most recent addition to this building and that that's all I have yeah don't have any Interiors of the actual classroom it was just um a big open let me go um let me stop sharing I took some
additional photos so let me see if I can find one real fast this is what Mark what I had just shared with you is what Mark had yeah um put in his report let see nothing there
if I'm understood like the city now there's no process whereby the city like forecloses or represses properties that they then offer there is that doesn't exist that does exist it does exist it is a whole different thing that I don't
know about um I mean I know that it exists and um it goes through several other departments it goes through housing and planning and all sorts of different things but because we already own this
property um I think that I I think the biggest one that we do is when we take like ownership of houses there are people who we can sell the houses to to refurbish them and bring
them up to code to use as either um you know rental housing or sell um but I don't think this will qualify under those programs you don't know enough about it to say that for sure I've just read like the broad overview of what it
is but so I actually find myself thinking that it's unfortunate that the city got to this point and then they're saying oh this is historic sorry can we keep going
I I well I don't think that that's the case because I did speak to Eric and then you know from going forward let's find out about these things earlier and then we can we can do
something I think this has been known for a while that it's a historic property or not it's a historic building like wasn't yeah it's not in the historic um uh whatever Eric calls it I forget historic you guys know historic
registry it is it is registered it's number or the historic district that's what Eric said yeah it's not in a historic district but it has a card in the Macer system jerry4 yeah
yep so this is where um you know we need to adjust some of the processes that trigger our involvement earlier uh because I feel like you're already at third base so to
speak and I just yeah I mean to stand in the way of kids playing there and yeah I've been on so I've been on the commission now what since 2023 I think it was when I joined and this is the F like when I got the email about this
project that was the first I had ever heard of it yeah you know and that was just what last month so I think there some there is some breakdown communication I think that having a better an easier easier to access list of historic buildings that are in the
city would be good because it this the the inventory the the registry is hard to navigate sometimes especially if you're not in it all the time I don't know if there is a I can sit with Eric list I
can sit with Eric or um mark that would be fantas once you get used to it it's really pretty easy but I think having just that list like even in just an Excel spreadsheet would be great that way it's 600 properties in Massachusetts
I mean in Greenfield so I'm totally insane and I volunteer you volunteer I am nut I volunteer the town website has like a GIS mapping section already that an additional map that maps all this out
could be probably wouldn't be that hard it exists it's on the state it's on mass histor I an appointment but for this project christe sorry yeah yeah she had another right I just wanted to follow up
again I'm sorry I don't know who said that they had been on the commission since 2023 so how how this started was it was probably August of 2023 when we got an email I did um from the Greenfield minor league baseball and
then it went to multiple recommission meetings and they asked for more information on what their intent was and then you you know that I work for the mayor so at the time it was Roxanne and so then I had multiple meetings with Roxanne who then asked Mark to do his inspection and then it just everything
moves at a snail's pace as I said and then then the you know the mayor changed so then I had to get our new mayor on board like everything was moving forward except as Margo said like the missing piece from your perspective was was your committee um although I had Eric and I
had met multiple times about it so um we need I guess we do need to figure out a better way so that um everyone involved gets to check off their boxes so to speak yeah yeah I mean in that vein and I don't I don't say this to Cast Stone
whoever owns the build when you have a if you have a building whether you miss an individual that building is in one condition at one time you don't for whatever reason maintain that building because there's lots of other priorities
over the course of decades and this sit vacant for a long time the building deteriorates and of course in many many years the the building becomes you know quote unquote beond repair that's the mition by neglect which and again I
understand there's lots of other priorities I'm not casting stones but this is a a common you know we haven't taken care of the building for a long time now we can't repair it it costs too much so we have to demolish it you know if and obviously this is 20 years ago these Investments should have been made
not it would have been much cheaper then we can't go back and fix that but it's it's a it's a difficult situation to we have to demolish it because we didn't take care of it for decades and now it's too expensive to fix and again I know that's all in the past we can't change
that now and I think also if we had an inventory of city-owned buildings as well that were historic it would give us the ability to I mean the ability if we had again if there was money which but
if we had an inventory of ston buildings that were historic it would at least give us the ability to put something on a prioritization list like hey this building is actually really important we should look at ways to make sure that
it's you know staying in in good condition we don't have that right now and yeah I would agree that we should have but we don't so we're starting with that like that's so we just spent quite a few thousand doing yes but where is
that like is that information housed what happened was it it's a mass historic uh document and it's on the mass historic website which was the only way we could get it done because that's the only way we could get money to get
it done right rather than doing it by herself with it so we got a contractor to do that and that has just been finished within the last few months and it is being posted up on the mass stor and you can get access to that site anybody can get access to it when is is
it there is a paper copy Eric has paper copy I know but I'm talking about the going to take a couple months it's going to take a couple of months before that is available to the general public right but once it is you'll get a link to it then you can look it up anything else anybody in the city can look it up well
I'm talking City owned properties not all properties well that's that's up to you guys well that's I'd like to move that Sarah and I meet with Eric and Mark okay and we have a little powow yeah at their
convenience and we we do a cross RI we take the 600 properties that we know are considered historic and the town properties and I can think of a couple right off that are going to be under you know consideration for
other uses so anyway so we will do that okay and if I can just yeah I was gonna say and I'll be glad to be involved with that Margo if if it will be helpful because I know of at least one other building in the rec commission's mind that we think may be his work that again
is in worse uh repair than this and you know the city just doesn't have money and we can't determine what use it would be for either you know so we have to think about safety um send me a
link I'm afraid to I think something to keep in mind going forward like you were saying that it'd be nice to hear about these things earlier a lot of times it's not going to come up until somebody wants to demolish it even if we had a list of every property and kept on top who's got the
money to run around and say okay that one needs a paint job and that one needs windows and but there are buildings that I know of that could be decommissioned and turned into housing and that's the cry right now so and I've
been calling one of them long time I know the rec commission thought really long and hard about what I mean is it's not really our building it was the fire department used it but they left and then nobody else was using it but it's on our park so it kind of fell on on our
lap to figure out okay what are we going to do we're not going to teach School in there it needs a lot of work and we don't have any sort of capital um within the city that we can invest in this but um and if we could find more grants for
historic stuff I'd be glad to help you guys support that do we have a motion one way or another yeah yeah I'm I move we approve the demolition we have a
second second second further discussion uh have they actually filed a demolition permit yes that's what triggered this okay yeah I wasn't sure I thought it was just like a like a heads up actually no your question is a good one I didn't because
I didn't actually see the demolition permit I think it was just an application um oh sorry Christie I again Eric handled the bid so I can't speak for him but I do not think we have
because the bids just came in last week and we haven't like we've we determined what the lowest bid is but we haven't awarded anything yet take action then yes we can why should we because don't have a demolition permit to rule on so
you can you can vote to allow when the permit is is when the application when the application is we can direct Mark all right so we I still I don't I still don't see the harm
in this building it's not going to get demonstrably worse in three months if there's an opportunity but to see if somebody but prices could go up pretty dramatic for demolition they already have and they already have some of the
with some of the federal issues that we are facing right now in regards to tariffs it's going to start going up pretty quick I think that is worth considering we are in an incredibly precarious
fiscal place as a city I cannot stress that enough okay well the other thing is if you can't find the money between the 44 and the 67 and the contract doesn't go go ahead
could we do what Jeremy suggest potentially but that goes through the whole RFP process like if we were going to put it up for bid like that it would take it would take up to a year I think honestly because of how long it takes
taoes it takes a long time to to put those things out there to go through the whole process and um you don't have staff to do it we don't right now we we had a entire turnover of our financial department in the past six months and
our new finance department is fantastic but we're also in the middle of M Municipal budget season our budgets due in six weeks and I I hear what you're saying I really do I think I've demonstrated like I'm
you know but I also I have to come at it from the city's perspective saying right like and also from a funding if if we advertise it and I wanted to buy it
tomorrow I it's almost absurd to think I could say I'm gonna buy it tomorrow and I've got the money right now I've got the equipment right now and I'll start work next week it'll be no I'll start work in like two years yeah it's and then you have
no no field for all that time could you reread your restate my motion my motion is that we approve um point of order are we having a public hearing on this um if a demolition delay or demolition permit
hasn't been applied for me in the future the Stephanie the only time that a demolition um hearing would go in is if the demolition delay were inative
which um so they don't have to enact a demo delay if they don't want to um even if it is a historic property they vote if to enact the demolition delay and then after that there is a public
hearing no that's not true yeah we we have that process is complicated one of the other I believe I believe when the permit is I mean the application is received then we have a public care
and then we vote that's what happened with p no you you voted to put the you voted to put the delay in and then have the public or you voted to wait you voted have the delay
triggered a like a within a 14-day period we had to have another meeting yeah right so you voted to do the delay and then you had to have a public hearing about it yeah so this you don't have to have a public hearing if you
don't the delay delay didn't go into effect until after the public he right but that was to this is part of the yeah the problem with the current but that was to determine if if it was going to be enacted it was a vote
to have the hearing to enact the is kind of how it right all right so wanted to know what my motion was well my motion was made with I I thought that there was a permit that there a permit had been applied for so I'll have to rephrase it
um I would that once we receive a demolition permit request that we approve it it's building okay that's the same thing
yeah second minute second okay let's vote all those in favor can I can I abstain I have no strong opinion either way at this point and those oppos three a one exstension one nay
Stephanie I sorry I didn't say thank you for your comment but thank you thank Christie thank you guys thank you so much thanks Christine all right um and I think that our meeting with Eric and Mark will be important I think so as
well that we get things in the order that we should get right get that on get it on the map so I'm G say Jeremy Thank You For Fighting too and nail because what you're saying is important of course I agree I think it is important
and I'm glad that you I think it is a very important perspective to hear and I wish we had money to do all the things that I want to do I just in because I have personal history with the parcel growing up in
this area so that's so I had questions thanks thank you Stephanie so um I I hope we can uh the rest of the agenda quickly here so let's meet Terry the new U
interested party being a commissioner well I mean he's he's been doing a darn good job so you can talk to my wife I'm not real my mouth sh so uh I take it that you are still
interested yes and umist you told me a little bit of your background but one minute uh yeah I'm just real quick I'm an archaeologist historian by trade I've been out of the the field for a number of years um
raising my boy didn't want to the one problem with Archaeology is it happens out there and I didn't want to be out there when my little kid was growing up here so I've been out of that field for a while I'm still very active
historically um I was on the board at the Historical Society for a while I'm no longer on the board I'm still very active over there with van like van I learned I can get a lot more done if I'm not on the board and just go there and get stuff done and uh my son is now
volunteering with us over there we're putting him to work weekends now and hey we moved to [Music] Greenfield almost 20 years ago now bought our house about 12 13 years
ago okay so the next thing is you write a letter of interest to the mayor yep I will talk to jie I know Jenny she used to be the council from our Ward oh there you go okay appreciate
mayori and just send a letter of interest um and take care of it from there all of the on the front page of the mayor's page on the city website okay can't imagine it's hard to track down address
the last item is review of demolition delay ordinance does can we set up a couple of people to look at over and maybe that guy right there you guys are the experts on itance right now the city is going
through ordinance review um so it is a great time to do that because um it all has to that's another whole process of things here's your deadline oh I don't
know I don't think it's a super quick process to draft a new it is not a super quick process it has to go through city council yeah um yeah but all of the the people are doing it right now that is happening all of our department heads
are supposed to be doing it so you should be able to work in coordination with Eric yeah um so look at some of the Eastern communities do we or like would this would we be able to draft an ordinance then it goes to is like a the City attorney then like
make sure the language like I I know that but I don't know how to um so I think generally you're going to engine 3 respond to vehicle accident at 285 Federal Street okay it's not yeah it's not me
either injy oh no actually that might be me because they're on their way to anyway hope not exist so you would gra you would go through what you wanted to see changed um I mean basically start with some
notes what do you want to see changed are there other ordinances that you can find from other communities in the state yeah that you prefer the way it is written um have good reasoning for why you want these things change too because you're
going to have to sell it well it was a little bit tricky to figure out what exactly the process was so there's the cleaning up and then there's the beefing up does mass historical have a have a a suggested version we adopted the
suggested version back when yeah 2016 no 20 2007 it's quite old we inar there's a lot of that webinar has all kinds of resources about I mean I I don't have have them all written down but not on the top of my
head I I based on different communities around the state because there's not a suggested that there's three or four examples St and it would be really important to make sure that you're like aligning with stuff in the state because some other ordinance you can draw from
you know around the country but historic really varies so it's really so State ter yeah um so I question yes I'm sorry you did have that's okay would discussing it violate open meeting L like if we discussing it in like with a
forum sized group people like because we want to make sure it's what we want to present right but it's yeah yeah different if we have like groups of two we take not can we just call it a committee I'll try to adj I think I think that I think that
was the agenda item was establish a subcommittee then have to have its own like subcommittee chair and like have its own recordings and all that and have its own you're not that big I mean I think it's two people my my honest suggestion would
be have a couple people draft things and bring ideas to the full committee because you are a small committee um and it's not it's not urgent urgent you don't have to have done you
know Jeremy want to work with me on this I would love to work someone be some have some time no I just have no impulse control and a desire to be useful no you should try add all for that but
um that's what I do but but that's what I would suggest that you bring forward ideas and form it over the next several months of meeting because I think all of you have different good perspectives and ideas
that need to be heard and um this is probably the best way to really to go about it it's not like you're a 30 person committee you're five people okay Sarah and Jeremy you're assigned May six
seven now actually so once you've got a list of all the historic properties say you wanted to do that yeah if they don't already have someone over at City Hall pack that on into a map I can I have it is in a map and Eric just
needs to add the overlay to the gis that he has we just need to know what city owned Pro I have to leave myself I'll entertain a motion to I make a motion to adjourn this is a very long good long meeting I declare us adjourn all right
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