and with that I will call to order this meeting of the Greenfield Conservation Commission at 6:30 pm February 11th this meeting is being recorded by the Conservation Commission if any other persons present are doing the same you must notify the chairperson at this
time let's do our roll call on Zoom we have Emily hi hi Kristen Hi and then here in the johnzon center
we have myself Elizabeth garafalo Erica and Jessica the agent thank you all right good to see you again all right so first thing up uh approval of minutes from January 28th
meeting um does anybody have any comments questions concerns about the meetings from our last or the minutes from our last meeting I'll make a motion to approve them can I I second thought although I'm reviewing them right
now give you a minute to look over them real quick I'm not seeing anything really great so if there are no further comments around the minutes let's go ahead and vote since we already have a motion and a second Emily I'll start
with you I Kristen hi Erica hi I'm also an i minutes have been approved moving right along we have excuse
me our first public hearing which was continued from January 14th 2025 notice of intent maintenance maintenance of roadways and drainage systems on i91 routes 25 and 10 D number 16803
63 the Massachusetts Department of Transportation do Mass do project proposes routine maintenance of existing roadways including widening less than a single Lane adding shoulders correcting substandard intersections improving existing draining drainage systems and
repaving do we have any folks planning to uh nobody uh is coming tonight to discuss it it's mainly just the vote okay and um I have a list of things that I want to kind of
methodically go through perfect uh with you all perfect um so let me just bring it up see
okay so I will share my screen try to share my screen here we go okay sh okay so these are the draft conditions that everybody should be somewhat familiar with by
now um I can everyone hear me because I'm my mic okay I Incorporated the feedback from Mark uh that we got last meeting uh specifically about widening the road and
also the emergency repairs and then I received some feedback from uh me commission members individually that I Incorporated so so mainly uh we're going to talk about a a
few feedback items that were a little more open-ended and then also we need to decide or you guys need to decide on um the widen the specific width that you're okay with for widening the road
so that's kind of an overview but um let's just scroll down to the conditions and we'll start with number six um this Elizabeth you had some
thoughts about an inspection protocol SL SL schedule so the um it says work shall be halted on the site if an agent of the commission or D determines that any work is not in compliance with the order of
conditions so did you want to elaborate on what you thought yeah so I guess excuse me my concern around this is that because it is the first of its nature for us specifically and I think for the state in general um having some sort of
guidelines around you know um sort of checking in on the site itself to ensure that these conditions are being adhered to um and it was this particular bullet point that made me think of that because um if if I think you're going to go and
check and you think Erica is going to go and check then eventually we wind up in a place where nobody has really sort of had any oversight for the projects and I think um it could be helpful to have at least for the uh first go around some sort of framework for having some eyes
on the project to ensure that the orders of conditions are being met okay [Music] um so would that be in the order of conditions or just something that we agree to um internally like I go and check
within you know three weeks of them submitting like the request or within one week of them starting activity something yeah I think that's fine I don't think it I don't think it has to be included in the um order order
conditions right do do any of the other commission have thoughts or comments around that my thought is that usually there's some boilerplate in just the general conditions so these are the special conditions right so usually there's something in the general conditions that say like you know the commission has a right to enter
the site at any time um you know if work is not completed in compliance with this order work shall cease immediately or something is there any do can you pull up the general conditions and see if that is like a duplicate I don't care if
it is but I mean just curious um I don't have a boiler plate like handy right now oh okay unfort Ely uh because I don't have access to like my work folder this is unless you
guys have it saved in the G drive somewhere or if you have a recent one with just the boiler plate I could pull that up yeah um oh you know um we could go to 208 Mohawk cuz we know that
let's see order condition Maybe yes so these are the general conditions right here oh that's the same comment from the general okay so is that number three that's our boiler plate yes so it's already in there yeah
okay yeah so I probably did that where I copied and pasted things that I felt like were missing oh okay yeah cuz that is a that is a good comment to have in the boiler plate for every project okay so basically when we send conditions we send the special
conditions and then we send all of these too yeah we usually have a boiler plate for General conditions and then if there's anything on top of that that's special to that project we include special conditions that are pretty specific to the project but these are
like generally for all projects okay yeah because the way this is organized it shows special conditions under the orance and then it says general conditions under Wetlands protection act so then there's really no area that says
special conditions or general conditions you mean no no well what I thought you were saying was that there's special conditions to the project and then there's just general boiler plate yeah and so for this this is the um Ali oh
okay so it has special conditions for the wetlands ordinance oh oh slash Wetlands protection act okay um Erica you probably remember I'm always asking about our boiler plate I cannot remember what our boiler plate includes and I feel like we're always talking about
special conditions but I can never remember what the the boilerplate general condition State and I wonder if it would make sense for us to have like a standalone copy of those on the G drive so I could always instead of asking Erica that's what I was I was looking to see if we have one but I
don't see it I can add that this week in a logical place that like administrative maybe under administrative um yeah because I mean this the the way you've described it this does seem like
these are the boiler plate starting under General conditions under the Wetland protection act and that's a lot a lot of boiler plate it goes to the 75 I think that's that sounds about I think that sounds about right right and then
we usually have like you know five 10 on top of that of of specific ones is that how all towns do it like that mhm yeah and some towns break them out they'll be like your boilerplate general conditions and then they'll have
special conditions under the wellet protection like amoris does two special conditions one for the wellness protection act and one for their bylaw okay really almost always duplicates but sometimes there's one or two different ones in the bow ones but I don't know if
we need to create that much more work for us or if we do that anyways but usually there's just your boiler plate standard 27s but or General conditions and then we add special ones and I just can never remember what those General conditions are
okay okay well let me get back to so then that will be a bit redundant if it's in there yeah I don't know if it is not it's worth it's worth including I think does it matter if we have it in both it doesn't matter right it's just
like I don't think so covering all their places right and then I mean the plate ones are or the the Baseline ones are already included in the bundle noi anyway right um noi well when we issue the order conditions we'll have the one
we're voting on tonight and then we'll have the boiler plate that will be attached okay yes perfect um yes so that's six um 11 oh this Elizabeth you wanted to
discuss cuz you were concerned about it yeah read it says this order shall apply to every successor I think this is also from the boiler plate okay I don't know it should be if it's not it should be going forward yeah I'll just read it just this
order shall apply to every successor and interest of the properties described in the notice of intent in the event that this land changes ownership before or during the 5 years that the permit is valid the current owner shall notify by the new owner of this order by
registered mail prior to the transfer of ownership and shall forward proof of this notification to the commission actually this does seem kind of specific to the project it's five years so I think this this seems unlikely because it's owned by mass do
right but it's just saying that the order of conditions will stay with the property if it were to be sold okay that's my understanding of that anyway I guess my concern had been um if
but your point about it being the dot property is is relevant here but so I guess my concern had been um if the property was sold would the new owners then also
be able to use the bundled noi rather than submitting their own you know what I'm saying yeah rather than having their own permitting process just I think this is only relevant to the state right I mean I think only the B will any why
it's only for the state right so this well this would mean that is what it would mean so the order conditions would be attached to the property so if someone were to buy the property then they could do what the bundled noi is saying the properties might not be owned by the
state like if it's a culvert going under a road then part of the property affected might be private property not just yeah so that it said that the bundled noi is for all mass do like what sh or whatever the acronym is and
easements uh which I think is what you're referring to is when there's an easement um so yeah they might not necessarily own but they would apply this bundled noi to only M's activities
I guess my concern had been that um somebody who in acquired a piece of property that this particularly applied to would then be able to sort of Wiggle around rather than going through the proper channels as a like private land owner I think
that is what I think it is kind of implying that because um there was another example that have just come across people that are like going to apply for a permit and
it's on a piece of property that already had a permit for project and then the project number happened and then they sold the property but now the new owners have to close out the noi permit because it's still act it's still active
it's still a cloud on there think they could they could have bought the property and continued with the project that is already permanent without actually having to come in to talk to us to make sure that they know the things that they need to do in order to comply to the order of conditions well yeah this is a good question well
mean private property it's usually only three years so it's the chance of it getting proved and then getting sold before but five years yeah it could they could conceivably come up but I thought D it would only be dot but
yeah would you want to change the verbage so it said that it only applies to the current applicant and not I personally would feel more comfortable with that does the rest of
the commission feel similarly or am I being um particularly personnic I feel like there should be some standard language in our boilerplate general conditions that addresses this issue and if we need an example I can come up with one from another town that I'm routinely looking
at I'm just I'm desperately trying to find some gc's somewhere in our folder and I'm not finding anything and it's such a difficult folder to navigate a lot of stuff in there yeah and like I can only go by project so I'm trying to like sort by date but I keep getting pulling up rdas instead of nois um and I
don't know if General conditions are different but I mean that's something I'm used to seeing in gc's so there has to be language that's just easy to mimic like I'll look pull up an Amorous one really quick
offline no I like navigated out of it because I had to get back to this I feel like the language I could I could direct do you want me to be here yep there and then go um sorry yeah you got it
actually uh yours is different this is just the one that I why is it 208 there what is it 208 M oh there you go yeah uh yeah so click
[Music] on and then 20 yeah and then o and um yeah was special okay um do you want me to share
this and then you can right [Music] um give me a second here while I figure out which is which while you're pulling that up Liz so I'm looking at a ammer
general condition this is from an order that was issued in there it is okay 2021 so it's not recent but it says the agent or members of the Conservation Commission and the Department of Environmental Protection shall have the right to enter and inspect the area subject to this order at reasonable hours to evaluate compliance with the
conditions stated in this order and May ire the submitt of any data deemed necessary by the Conservation Commission or the department for that evaluation so that's kind of similar to number six and that's just in a boiler plat we probably have that but can't confirm that and then 16 in this one says the order of
conditions shall apply to any successor in interest or successor in control of the property subject to this order and to any contract or other person performing work conditioned by this order and again that's in a boiler plate General condition where did you um this
is from another town but okay I can't confirm that we have that in ours but that's pretty standard boilerplate language for other towns in our area so if we don't have that in our boiler plate we we should have both of those those were good catches find yes Christian I like that language better
than the one presently in ours because in the the standing gor conditions because it's more generic and it's broader um the what the way it appears now it's so specific it sounds like you're talking about one land owner whereas this is for many many many
different projects over the five years it just seems very misleading the way that it's worded currently maybe likes this other one better anyway see oh okay so can special still I know that there's like rules around sharing
stuff in the chat but if you shared it in the chat and then I cut and pasted it onto the shared so we can document with that yeah I don't think that's an issue just I mean I know technically because this is a public meeting um you know we don't want to post anything in a chat
that's not publicly available but this is a publicly available documents so I'm technically allowed to share this okay um desable even though it says special so that's one and then the one was pretty identical and I mean again
this sorry that's really tiny huh yeah I was thinking like you could highlight it and control c yeah I just control pasted um yeah it's a it's a recorded copy but I'll just type it what do you mean it's a
recorded So it's a scanned copy yeah oh so you can't okay I mean I could just like down if you want to screenshot it I could download it and then if we all you know if you guys agree on the verbiage I could
update it tomorrow it may already even be in there I just I wish we could pull up our generals I I feel like I'm literally always asking about our gc's so I should have a copy of them on my
computer because I'm bothering the rest of the commissioner is always asking about it so this order condition shall apply to any successor in interest or successor and control the property subject to this order and to any
contractor or their person performing work conditioned by this order okay so everybody likes that verbage better I'm happy with that yeah okay wait I might have forgotten the
word and this order of conditions shall apply to any successor in interest or successor in control of the property subject to this order and to any contractor did I put that yes okay yes great okay thank you moving
on um 20 some okay should I share my screen again I'm so spoiled with multiple screens here we go I know it's so nice okay here we
go so I'm scrolling to 20 e 20 is the section on reporting okay um and I updated it from last week because I Revisited Billy's notes and
she said it is not uh re like feasible to track trash removal um but that she could track to trash REM trash removal from like
roadside buffer zones all that but that it appeared she could track debris removal from Wetlands um so I added it to reporting and then um that in the original uh version it it
talked about trash removal from uh buffer zone um as part of buffer zone improvements which she said she could not do but she could uh track any changes to impervious ve uh to vegetated surfaces uh where Native CD was applied
so I added that too um and then I also added summary of Culvert cleaning including photos documenting before and after uh because I found those kind of deep in these conditions and it was listed in the reporting section so I just added those
so I just wanted to kind of bring you all's attention to that yeah that's super important yeah the Culvert cleaning is sort of a big one so do what did Billy have any comments on the biannual reporting because that was a mark Stinson recommendation I had
originally suggested annual and he said why don't you start with biannual and see how they do and you can always reduce it after that yeah my my recollection of it was that it it was okay okay um and
I think that the understanding was that that this first year was going to be okay like the trial year you know like and that after that we could readjust what we felt was necessary based on how
the year went um it does say that somewhere doesn't it it does Yes somewhere I think seen it somewhere um yeah and that we would like
re-evaluate uh so that's reporting um let's see 21 um for checking erosion controls it says a minimum of once a week and after rain events do we want to specify a rainfall
amount that we want them to like double check their erion controls quarter in 24 hours a quarter inch in 24 hours yeah kind standard after all a
quarter do I spell that inch in a 24 hour period like that or more um quarter inch or more yeah quarter inch or more within a 24hour period so like if there's going to be
you know I don't know they can figure out how often that is but okay yeah okay uh that's my well my question went that about the put on the side there um
about covering stock piles were we going to say oh yeah oh sorry I didn't I'm like I know sorry I sorry I did it like um yeah so uh anything about covering stock piles especially if rain is predicted um
I don't see any in there about that um some things plac of erosion control with all these usually seems like usually dot doesn't have like long projects where they have that but if they happen to it seems like it would be
in the case of that thing that occurring it would be good to have that in there because it required of others um Amanda from yours yeah so um is it I don't I don't remember if it's if they're covered if they're just overnight at all or if they're covered
only if there's a rain event or Kristen do you know do you remember no I can't remember I'm trying to dig something up really quick cover how what kind of verbiage would I um just like any stock like covering
of stock disturb are will be c yeah here you want to oh my gosh it's so small wait let's do this yeah you can do that too um
yeah I feel the same way opposite direction subsequent to seaing Disturbed areas will be oh wait oh down there all stockpiles of soil existing for more than one day shall be surrounded Ed by a row of entrenched silt fence and should
be covered or otherwise suitably St stabilized um so there is all here wait maybe then we could delete that and then add it [Music] to this expose well that's that could
just be regular Expos soil not piles right just specific to stock piles okay cut that one all stock piles of soil existing for more than one day one day shall be surrounded by a row of entrenched
silt and of entrenched silt fence and shall be covered shall be covered or otherwise suitably stabilized [Laughter]
stabilized oh my gosh yeah okay that's that was that's the end of that one okay great check um okay
next 23 Em's got a comment Em's got a comment there oh is this standard working what are we talking about yeah that's pretty standard with the
Swip but we can change it if we wanted to we could extend it yeah I believe that's from Kristen's version so and I probably the chances that they would need a Swip
are probably pretty small because that would only be required for an acre or more of disturbance I I think anything that's going to be an acre or more of disturbance would require a separate noi it would yeah everything has to be under an acre so we we can change this you
know like let's assume this is Road shoulders like let's think B doot property right so it's Road shoulders is 14 days unfair I don't know that's a question for the commission I think that's a good example I was trying to think of what this would uh be
relevant to because if it's like an open um yeah I I guess I'm if I was thinking of like if it's um digging for a culvert or something like that you know like they might be working for a longer time than that so you wouldn't put something
you wouldn't want something growing in there so I guess maybe make it clear that it's a um you know it's not inactive work or something like that yeah I mean if they were digging a new Culvert they would have to come before us for a new permit
this doesn't cover all new work I was thinking this would cover like access roads I mean first of all it's only in jurisdiction access roads or like Road shoulders I don't know what else do we did we get a map with their noi of what their properties are I don't
think we did we they provided some maps in the noi I uh believe some of them just yeah were in relation to the jurisdictional areas do you want me to bring that up no
I'm pulling I'm trying to pull it up to see if I have it too but I don't know that's kind of stuff that I was thinking of and then of course they would be cleaning out existing colberts but not putting in new CTS so okay where would they have exposed soil if they were going to widen a road maybe we should
come back to that one I don't know yeah they said that they would be [Music] clearing um vegetation if it messed with sight lines um and Bridge maintenance
maybe that would but have disturb soil [Music] from if they had to remove invasives I don't know yeah I mean there's no minimum
polygon size for that so like I don't know I I don't know I'm starting to doubt that comment now sorry guys I think it's a good precaution to take I'm just trying to think of how it will be relevant you know like what should we be more specific about what
types of project talking about or um um maybe it would be helpful to bring up the map why you do it just to give us something to look at if you don't mind I just see I just
see roads on there just mot Mainline roads that's the only thing in there well that's it would just be 91 too like in a later part we're not talking about anything beyond roadways
right right yeah major roads not even Municipal roads just state roads highways right so do do you want me to bring up the map or if it's just roads that's fine you don't need to
okay gosh I really thought there would be some kind of an access or something but gu it's just highways at least that's all they have in their Legend just says mot maintained roads there's nothing for like access routs or anything like
that right aways it's all just m doot roads so there are other measures for um stabilizing soil in different sections um should we put this together with those as
another you know Ma manner of stabilizing the soil I mean I guess it is sort of in this section but let's see yes sediment and erosion control procedure we could just keep kind of
going through and then if we see the section mhm um that you're referencing no I might be just thinking about the different parts of this one I guess I'm just thinking that like
putting down seating usually is part of finishing up the project right so what we're saying here is oh there's some reason why the stoil is going to be disturbed and they're going to keep going for a long period of time so we're asking them to do something that's
growing um for a temporary cover right and um I was just curious if this is sort of typical have you seen this Kristen in projects um what sort of what does it consist of and then you know um um you know is this sort of like
getting ramping you up to finishing it later on but maybe they have something else they need to do that's exactly right so assuming there's some long-term soil stockpile long-term soil that's exposed this would be a temporary stabilization measure say they're doing work in the winter and you know they
have a restoration planting plan but they can't get the restoration plants in cuz it's January they'll throw a winter W ride down or something as temporary stabilizing measure but I don't don't know if this is really relevant yeah it seems like it'll probably be an edge case um 14 days
seemed short to me that's when I first saw it me too me too um but I'm not really sure you know what the right length is um but then again this might not be really be super relevant for these properties
do we want to keep it in there I'm I feel tempted to leave it in there and then maybe when we um do our revision of these or these we can just throw it out if we really feel like it's never going to be useful yeah if we close tonight does Billy have't if we
close tonight we have is this locked in uh the the CL is to yeah to vote tonight and then that's that and but you know we have it in here that we're going to revisit I believe in a year to
re-evaluate uh if things are not strict enough or too strict or okay but we can't change any of these conditions after we vote is my question that's my understanding okay is that you're correct I don't see anything wrong with
that paragraph I just like maybe we'll end up wanting to tweak it after having seen it in action and also it might never really come up so yeah did Billy have any comment on that uh I could look at her email but I
updated everything that she commented on um but if you want me to look it up right now I can it just might take me a minute to find it I don't know I fall back for us to have them expect to have to seed you
know if there's longterm exposure and it's relevant let me I'll just look real fast and see it well if we if we are going to ask them to do something temporary it still has to be native to the county right y
so yeah the native part is discussed earlier everything all the time right yeah that's well since it was temporary if people would get think they get around it by just putting down
anything yeah just say right could make a reference there to the seating policy oh it doesn't like show me yeah you got to down okay here we go so what is
this um h21 i' like moved everything around so we'll see um summary reporting sediment and erosion goes further here we go e I'm not seeing it right now
there's been like so many iterations of this that well do you want to just come back to it if we have to because we have a lot more to go through yeah we're halfway through the document here uh let's see so uh 20 where are we
yeah so this Beast um when I was looking at the Boi for the Lawn and Landscape Maintenance um for this specific condition and then I looked at the bno
oi it it actually doesn't talk about like lawn mowing or pruning or doing any Landscaping as part of their operation and maintenance and um or fertilizer or anything it's really just talking about
um uh sight lines and safety for bridge inspections um so I didn't know if we wanted to just get rid of like this or if this was important say
that might be part of just their General boil fights like part of like dos or I mean I mean I know the town has like certain boil plates and like just MO is it's just in there okay but I but I could but maybe
we need it here don't yeah because again coming back to the fact that we're talking about 9125 and 10 uhhuh what mowing lawn mowing specifically are they doing for example or pruning are they
doing other than the light sign of line thank you line of site is there a Medan strip in that section of the highway right so like so I guess mowing is line of sight stuff huh it gets really high the rotary and stuff or yeah
yep that's true that's true all right well then this I will leave but um uh there was this little section about uh for tree work conducted under the supervis vision of a certified
Arborist um and there's another part in the conditions that references tree Printing and so I was wondering if you want always want a certified Arborist would think the size of the
tree or and what they're doing I mean if they got do they have to take it down or do they just have to cut a couple lims off yeah I mean are we talking about a crab apple or are we talking about a giant Oak cuz if we're talking about a big Oak then the certified Arborist but if we're
talking about like a 4 foot crab apple that just needs some upkeep then how would you um differentiate yeah good question um do we care if they bring in a certified I mean do we care if they
don't but hang on a second are we concerned about them bringing in a certified Arborist if for example it is the 4f foot crab apple like is it a problem if they bring in a certified Arborist for something that arguably
isn't necessarily requiring one me we aren't paying for it right SCH they want to bring in our for CP TR I mean this category is all for this is basically this is category one this means they don't have to come before us so it kind of doesn't matter we're just
outlining what's exempt gotcha so if it's under category 2 which requires administrative approval or comes before the commission or Category 3 it's definitely coming before the commission then we can maybe require that but can we even require that if it's
exempts so you're saying no to the arborist in category one well we're saying it doesn't require prior notice so it's just normal maintenance yeah and then the tree printing is also category one or maybe
we could change the words slightly to say you know maybe certified Arborist doesn't have to be on site but can approve of the work or something under the approval of or something instead of under the supervision of and then we can make that supervision
when we get to categories two and three if we want but a lot of what's in category one is technically like mostly exempt we're just sort of outlining it so it's really clear I think
okay safety PR trees and Limbs longways and PS for safety reasons and to preserve sight lines um should see yeah that tree printing
plans what should to be that sound good tree pruning to be conducted under the approval of a certified our burst this all still category one but just to be consistent okay um
27 yeah I was just going back through and noticed there was stuff that didn't get deleted that should have so I wanted to let you guys know because this is just um something that Billy said was not feasible and so I was going to
delete it but I didn't want to delete it without letting you guys know that that was not actually going to be included do you me to read it too yes please Mass DOT shall provide the Greenfield Conservation Commission with each iteration of updated city-wide maps
showing the location of these facilities um for the storm water structure cleaning um this is still the category one and gotcha um
yeah so I was deleting that and then um the end of it said this does not include work in jurisdictional areas but it does in the bendal noi it says storm water structure cleaning may occur
within buffer zone Riverfront area or blsf and Equipment will not operate in bordering vegetative Wetlands they have storm water facilities in resource areas storm water structure cleaning I don't
it was in the bundled noi so I just kind of copied what they wrote that's really surprising to me that there would be like a detention Basin in Riverfront but I guess they do get a lot of exemptions because we can't go
anywhere without Route 91 and they have to manage storm water the road's been there hundreds of years okay um then let's see that's
27 we're getting there guys we getting there okay 20 n we did uh 45 was just wait we passed a comment by Erica it was just typo um oh
long I think I that I think long as oh that it just disappeared when I did that okay uh 45 widening of roadways okay all right so
I updated the verbage and I just as a placeholder wrote shall not exceed four feet on either side of the corresponding Road like the road and that we're discussing and then roads that have been widened under this
bundled noi have a onetime approval any additional wiing that needs to occur must be requested under a new noi expansion of existing roadways within jurisdictional areas greater than 8 ft in width four feet on either side does not fall under routine operation
maintenance and will require a new noi can you remind me again what there were requesting with the width they it up to a single Lane so that's yeah basically less than a oh sorry can you say what you were saying in you repeat well I was they I forget you they were
saying they wanted permission to expand up to the width of a single Lane which would be 16 feet and that would be 8 feet on either side uh the internet says Mass doot typical Lane is 10 to 12 feet
wide so up to a single Lane would be 10 I I think 10 to 12 feet uh so I just said four but for to change it deter like based on what you guys are saying well that
wasn't that one of Mark's comments was I don't think you should just leave it open ended like Les less than a yeah Mark said um that if we were uncomfortable with like a less a little less than a lane then we should specify uh
what feet we we we're okay with yeah I like those I think like four feet is certainly that's enough room for like a bike lane if they want to put a bike lane in but and again uh Billy saw
this no Billy has not seen this this um this is just like the hot off thepress version okay Billy saw what I came to the last meeting with I like this I didn't I didn't like a
blanket approval to expand a road up to a single Lane without in jurisdiction without view I agree I think this is well worded yeah and so it's like they're not we're
not saying they can't do it they just need to submit like a new request if they want to widen it more than that yep because it's like there's storm water considerations there's there's engineering involved that's not maintenance
right cool all right so that's 45 uh category 4 uh the description I just uh updated it to be more comprehensive
um with the projects requiring new engineering plans in general will require a new noi um and then finally updated 47 based on our
discussion with Mark last week and I'll read it emergency storm repairs Drainage Systems emergency repairs for drainage system failures requiring less than 100 square fet of permanent disturbance to
Resource areas of blsf and RFA or less than 25 linear feet of Bank may be approved by the commission upon review if the repairs fall in bvw and require 100 square ft or less a wetland
replication plan is required to achieve no net loss Mass do environmental representatives to provide oversight and Reporting under this order of conditions oh and then Emily I just had a question there I was wondering whether
that second part was still about the portion that's less than 100 feet or if this was a further condition upon if it's more than 100 feet I I'm just not sure how to interpret it so let me know whated um if pairs on
I think what I was trying to get across was that um 100 squ feet or less would be a approved under this bno but the Wetland replication plan is
required to achieve no loss net loss the distinction is that it's in BBW whereas the first part is not is that correct yes so different areas yeah the 100 square feet is for blsf and RFA 25 linear feet is
for bank and then the next line is bvw which is 100 square feet or less gotcha so that's just me like pulling from the recording of what we spoke about with Mark so I wanted to see if I
got that is if that was accurate is that what you guys wanted yeah I think um yeah that sounds good did they specifically state in the noi they said emergency storm repairs
would consist of repairs for embankment wash outs resulting from large precipitation events would include both General embankment wash outs and wash outs related to failures within Drainage Systems installation of rip wrap will be limited to less than 100 square fet for wash outs affecting Bank work will be
limited to less than 25 linear feet but they don't say what resource area so we're saying that's okay as long as there's a replication area if it's in BBW are you I'm sorry are you saying they don't mention BBW is that they don't mention any resource area they
just say 25 linear feet of bank but they say less than 100 square feet right of RI W within anywhere else so it's like BF or Riverfront but I think what we're saying is we did give them what they want we're just asking for replication if it's in BBW yes that's exactly it
because that's what kind of the conversation with Mark cuz he was like I don't remember there being BBW and then when I looked at the Boi it actually didn't spef if so I figured we should we should specify in that order gotcha that makes sense good
catch you might just want to add Mass do environmental representatives are to provide oversight just so it's grammatical there yeah all right so we like we
like that that's all my notes that's everything that's the end but we've been doing this for so long I feel sort of married to it now no probably won't shed a tear yeah I'm not gonna ask for additional comments before we go for a
vote on this one well we've had a long time to opine yeah I'm G to remove all the highlighting it's the only changes I'll make okay well and I think there was two like just types at the beginning oh that I that I skipped okay oh yeah there's
still comments on the right may be that's easy awesome cool good job good job oh wait so um with the description of the scope of the project I just copied and
pasted from the description in the bno but it actually said like including up to a so I I just changed the wording but I didn't know should I say including up to up to
four feet up to four feet or was it eight per side I mean I honestly feel like the purpose of a comprehensive or bundled noi is for routine operation and maintenance and so you
know I think it's worth mentioning that up front but like really this is for Operation and maintenance y um okay well it does kind of it talks about routine maintenance and like correcting
substandard intersection sounds like a kind of a big construction project like did we really talk about that in the orders I I thought the idea was if it's going to require Standalone engineering that really kind of wouldn't fall into routine on andm yeah I wonder what she actually
means by substandard you know because in the bundled noi it doesn't talk about like re-engineering intersections yeah maybe we should take that out because we don't
have any orders that address that do we any really adding shoulders it's mostly just like routine maintenance covers it all and then I mean even even the improving existing Drainage Systems that's not really right either it's just
removing accumulated sediment from existing systems so it' be maintaining existing drainage system yeah it's just like routine onm and then the widening maintaining um maintenance of existing roadways I think adding shoulders though
is in the bundled Andi um why won't this thing move okay I want to go back to the bundle in a why to like wait I literally just closed it because I thought we were done sorry okay
oh um uh I think this is a boiler plate um because I I just looked it up online and I I saw that exact um language so that might be why what is
boilerplate what we're reading here um I'm looking at a checklist for redevelopment projects and it says um Redevelopment is defined to include maintenance and Improvement of existing
roadways including widening less than a single Lane adding shoulders correcting substandard intersections improving existing drainage systems and repaving which is exactly what we have sounds yeah and I don't think that's that's that's not a definition under the
Wetland protection act that's this is from the Massachusetts storm water handbook yeah exactly yeah okay okay well so here under um category one this
is in the bundled in why it says roadway maintenance roadway maintenance will consist of milling and resurfacing the roadway sidewalk repairs and curb repair roadway maintenance projects under the OC would be limited to those that do not
widen the roadway surface and do not require changes to the drainage system okay no full depth roadway reconstruction will be included in category one so it's just really
repairing the curb yep um okay so we could say repairing we can make it more Cur I mean or keep it super vague into say routine operation and
maintenance covered under this order routine all right this is going to really test my spelling guys vibration and maintenance of existing roadways so you think just take out that
or keep keep the keep the highlighted part but like don't be too specific with the repairing curb correcting substandard intersections that rest of that sentence can probably yeah because that was all just like cut and paste yeah and it doesn't really pertain to the regulations that we're in charge of
implementing compliance with so you think just do that that's my opinion I'm you know not the only one here but that's my opinion I'm okay with that okay who gets the honor of making the I
feel like Christen you had the most skin in this game so you all right I will oh shoot I gotta get the D number um oh yeah all right I will motion to approve the notice of intent for the routine operation and maintenance of roadways
and drainage systems on i91 routs 25 and 10 which is D file 168 0363 including the general and special conditions that we discussed this evening and in Prior meetings second all right that's do
um before we change your mind Emily hurry hi Kristen hi Erica hi I am also an i all right that was well well done okay that
was a lot of work that was a lot of work that was a lot of work good job everybody thank you so much Jessica do I have to hit save or can I just close it know what it will stay
okay I just don't want to ruin things okay yeah all right so our next um up next we have public meeting continued from January 28th 2025 request for determination of applicability construction of two pre-fabricated metal buildings parking
at 001 Adams road map r05 lot 28a the proposed work consists of the construction of two prefabric ated buildings with slab on grade foundation and parking for 12 cars the work will be separated in two phases with the second building comprising phase two as an
addition and only constructed should phase one prove financially successful I get that I feel like I blured there for a minute you got [Laughter] it so um if you guys recall the
applicant came in two meetings ago and was really just exploring ing uh the possibility of embarking on this uh project and wanted to see you know what what it might entail on that particular parcel um and then last meeting
Mark said regardless of what what they want we you could vote and um issue a determination and so that's basically what where we're at do you need any recap other than that
but did you did you speak to them at all this week or I updated them after last meeting but I haven't heard back I mean they didn't seem like they were really ready to go anywhere with this I mean that was a Vibe I got
too they didn't own the property yet so right yeah it was like do they even want to buy the property or is it gonna be too much of a headache but we can give them the information that we've decided that this is in
fact pos positive determination because they would have to file one in oh right because they didn't resend they didn't pull out their application did they no um they did not and it is in Riverfront for the Greenfield
ordinance and they'd have to cut down a significant amount of trees yeah it was pretty um pretty vegetated and there was a Brier patch and all kinds of stuff remember I'm just trying to find the R8 negative positive we de saided
positive right yeah positive is the bad one negative is the good one right right right which always scares always scares the yeah people when they come before me negative I know that means you're good go forth in peace so I'm just looking at my little
sheet here motion to make a positive determination that the area described on the referenced plans is an area subject to protection under the ACT removing filling drudging and or altering of the area requires filing of a notice of
intent so that's yeah so an RDA would just basically be saying like you know is this project within your jurisdiction and if it is within jurisdiction is it is it is it is it an impact and it
sounds like our answer is yes so that means it's a positive determination okay gotcha well RDA are RDA is free there's no filing fee for them right so right no Farm no no no harm no foul yeah and that's kind of why they
were doing that they didn't want to jump right into an noi that makes sense yeah especially if they don't own it I'm just trying to say we have to say was that was that a motion that you made there when you was that's what I'm trying to decide myself okay so we do
all right so we do have to make a motion for that all right um yes so uh motion to identify this as a positive determination for 001 Adams
road map r05 lot 28a second okay um so we'll vote uh Erica hi Kristen hi Emily hi I so and I all right okay
so next up uh looks like we've got some new business on here okay so uh the new business is in it's kind of old business but in
regards to last meeting uh 105 Mohawk Trail wanted a extension on their RDA and we discovered that they actually still have an open um noi and Mark had said they just needed to S um submit a
request for an invalid certificate of compliance just to close out the noi so this is kind of just a housekeeping situation um since they have an active RDA for their project was there an application a
request filed yes uh after last meeting they submitted form 8A and um just checked off invalid on their cool do they have to get that recorded or no
I'm just curious about the yeah because they recorded the order of conditions gotcha now have to submit that so kind of it's kind of a a unique
situation that um that they have the RDA it's it's just really like a housekeeping thing from years back right okay so we motion I mean approve their request for
invalid certificate of compliance is that the motion second um uh yes Emily hi Kristen hi Erica hi I'm also an i next
see Poss yeah possible violation at 30 Adams Road unpermitted clearing he so excited I thought it was him sorry we're getting
there we could always move around business sometimes you know like if we have somebody in person we could be yeah why don't we bump it yeah I also didn't put the shortcut cut so I got to figure that out okay so um let's let's
jump to the lamp Black Road parcel R 08-11 a-0 um Road was cut and excavated down the wooded Hillside to the flood plane and River PL Riverfront below in order to access the Fall River this was not a permitted project uh Steven Pritchard
was heading the project and is in attendance to discuss erosion control mitigation installation and next steps well Jessica seagull came out today to check out the site so curious to hear her input first
okay okay let me navigate I did I I came out and uh took some photos so I can bring those up and the main focus of today um was to see uh the
Water bar installation and additional Juke mats that had been um laid down so um is that Emily I see in the screen that's Kristen oh Krist yeah hi
Christ so let me share my screen I think it was her input that suggested the water bars the water bars yeah I think I shared a DCR Trail maintenance handbook and it's really detailed probably more detailed than you need but I like that
one I don't know if that was helpful for you or not I you know what I will say say it was good the best management practice manual yeah it it was detailed but it said if your site doesn't allow the exact installation you can modify it so
I did modify slightly but um okay so that's the seeping water yes so the these again they get shuffled uh so this was halfway a little more than
halfway down uh that yeah there this is a a water seat that um Turned Up um it's right next to the kind of the scar the scar in the hillside um okay so here's looking down as better
perspective so yeah it's kind of right at the base and then that's the first of two water bars that have been installed so if I might interject in that manual just to rec cap what a water
bar is for people don't know the complete definition it's just a raised barrier of soil or other material laid diagonally across the surface of a road or Trail to lead water off the trail to prevent erosion so Kristen brought up a good
point because originally everyone gave input that we should dig a trough along the hillside where it comes up to the path but she brought up a good point that's just going to increase the volume water jetting Down to the River Flat
creating more erosion so to cut it diagonally across the path to the Natural Ravine that's on the left side was the you know the common sense approach instead of driving the water uphill Dr drive drive it to its
natural path that nature was taken before we cut the path so um the other thing we talked about Jessica at the site was based on the grade the placement of the water bars well the the guide that
they give you 0 to 2% grade they said you can space the water bars 250 to 500 feet apart so it did not apply because this is a much steeper grade my truck tells grade for off-roading so my driveway up to the new house that's an
18% grade so I feel that it's very similar or steeper and in that case the guide says that if it's 21% greater more the spacing should be less than 100 ft apart so it's not specific so you have
to kind of determine where to place it so because it's winter and we you don't really see water flow yet i' like to maintain these two first get them installed properly all staked and everything and then when the water starts you know when um spring melt
starts showing up and the snow melts and the water start moving we can track on where to put other water bars if necessary but the main thing is to keep it from all rushing down the path to the River Flat to you know I mean it would
carry a lot of soil if you let it do that so yes so the um the Juke was staked down with the biodegradable stick and then
um I installed wood stakes in the the Waddles see the wood Stakes there um and the ground's frozen so we had like a drill bit that he could Trill in and then stake it down so that it was
nice and secure and this is kind of the other half of it and then this um Hillside goes down to kind of the northern part of that flood plane um and
I believe that is it's covered in snow so it's hard to see what's going on but I believe that was where you had the J previous meeting show pictures of the juk yeah um uh yeah so this is just another angle believe this is the lower one and you
this is actually all ice right here this dark it's just um thick ice yeah it's the Perma Frost is pretty thick it's five to eight inches thick okay so yeah this is the
lower one with that thick ice right here and then that's the upper one and then that seep is just up there and that's this second half the lower one and then this is the that's the bottom
yeah the bottom going out to the blood plane area and that's we had seen a picture of this the previous week but you can see that's the straw waddle at the base of the path I tried to just wide in it you
could see the river through the trees pictures never really show it as clear [Music] um yeah so so oh that's just a picture of
the the steak used for the Juke there are these green steaks yeah I got 6 inch and 4 in the six is to get through that I mean the ground I was telling Jessica that when
it was 4 Dees out I would drill the hole and by the time I could get the stick say can the drill bit gets it so hot and the ground's so cold that the hole would freeze back up and wouldn't allow you to pound the steak there's a closeup
of the seep water seepage well that's 52 degrees year round so only oh is that what it is we were actually talking about it that is that the the average temperature water coming out of the ground 52 if it's a spring if it's a
really a spring yeah it's cold in the summer and warm in the winter I think you're right because interestingly enough I laid the juk rugs or mats I come back the next day they were frozen into the
ground because water had seeped on to it which is great because it it eliminates the slipperiness of the ice so it's it works um yeah so I just took some more pies of just the [Music]
um yeah where the excavation happened um this is going up the road so not nothing has been installed up on this second half of the road um he's primarily like worked from the
bottom up yeah so this is this is just the top this is this other product he got that's a kind of a a hay like mat that you take this plastic cover off and you can roll it
down open um but you haven't installed that anywhere that's just yeah I'm thinking of putting that in some of the scar areas on the side walls I was telling Jessica that when I started picking up materials I cannot believe how many
companies carry erosion um control products it's a huge business especially in Massachusetts but um this company recommended it because it's still biodegradable it's made out of straw it's 8 foot by 100 foot long the jud's 4
foot by 225 feet so if I may give some input I just Jessica came up with a a thought she said you know that I should come up with a defined plan so my intent is I called
my landscape buddy he owns the company they've been in year in business for years and uh he's very experienced in erosion control I couldn't get a hold of him live but what I'm going to do is put together a defined plan and I'm going to start out by having him come out to the
site and have him give me his recommendations as a consultant as how to attack and restore this back to our natural forest and what to do with the sidewalls I was talking to Jessica about my contractor off offer to do river or
rip wrap but I it's ugly I'm not necessarily in total agreement so by having him come out I'll start with his input then I'll put together a plan defined and I'll send it to Jessica to fine-tune it but in the interim what I
want to do is to give you guys an idea of my time frame and how aggressive I want to get this thing wrapped up before the thaw in the growing season by the end of February my plan is to have 200 feet plus of that path from
the River Flat carpeted with the Juke material it might include some of the new straw rolls depending some of the people can't get Juke until later on in the air so I'm waiting to get some some people to have a
delivery so I want to continue carpeting the path get that done by the end of February then the months of March and April just from my standpoint is based on the consultant's input we're going to do everything possible to
install ra material whether it's Hydra seaing the side Hills or maybe a combination of mulch and Hydra seating or other rock material and also seeding
excessively with indigenous seed and I what I found in that guide that you you TI me off on Eric was Kristen is um there's many indigenous grasses that grow rapidly the favorite by my guy is
this Virginia wild Ry grass so I mean that's what we would spread everywhere even on the path itself because you can I mean if it gets too tall to walk through you can weed whack it once a year to to keep it in control but it's the main thing is it
holds the soil in place M and then you know so that's March and April which takes you into the heavy growing season which pretty much gets really going in April so during that time period depending on what we do on the sides is
to plant trees and by then the stock will come in to these Nursery places like in New Hampshire my guy gets his stuff from New Hampshire so we would get all kinds of trees you know and um Elizabeth you said one for one we
don't have an exact IM what was taken out but basically there's the eyes sore of the SCAR Where the root balls were torn out um I would put a bigger type Tree in those you know Common of the forest whether it's an oak or a hardwood
or maybe Pines in some places but and then where we put rock or whatever to hold the sides I would still create root ball holes and get trees going and saplings whatever we can get going and
then we'd watch the weather if you're not getting natural rain I'd have to water I'd bring a tank up to the top and gravity fed hoses to keep stuff moist because you want it to take off and then in the meantime we'll have the defined
plan and you know whatever you have to do to come back and review the site but we're going to stay on top of this sounds great I mean I I like carpeting with this it's fun it really it's not hard because you let gravity
unroll it and then you just you have to stake it otherwise mother nature takes it downhill you have to tack it to the ground so Jessica brought up a good point earlier when the snow melts and the ice pack melts you I have to go back
and adjust all the staks because not all of them may be in ground they might be just resting in ice so there's a lot to it but it's it's not hard and to speed it up um I think the consultant is important to hire him
I want him to come out but I'm just going to get a couple friends to help just to speed up the whole installation process and I might hire my escavator to bring in I might do some rip wrap in some of the severe cases where we don't want the side
walls giving way so we might have to put some rock material on this sidewalls and that would require him to bring some equipment and you well we look forward to the plan um I I do want to warn you that RI in Riverfront is considered Phil
so think about that um so it's not a good idea well just think about what your altern when when you draft your plan we can talk about your ideas a little bit more but I think part of it too is figuring out where the 200t riverfront ends cuz I
that upper part of the Trail I don't think is in Riverfront doesn't seem like it it seems like it's far away based on yeah I measured the whole path it's a 550t path there is a turn up at the top yeah but there's like 450 feet from the
straight part down to the River Flat yeah so the consultant could give you you know their thoughts and then there's also maybe Wetland too so there's the riverfront but then there's like
bvw I don't know if it's in bvw if the trail impacts are in bvw and river front or just River Front it's hard to tell from the photos but it looks kind of wet down at the bottom and there looked like there was some fill down where it gets level so I'm not trying to get in
the weeds here right now at this point in the conversation because we haven't even seen a restoration plan yet but I'm just saying that those data would be good to see as part of a restoration plan all right well that's what I'm going to work on feverishly I got to get a hold of the guy he did he called me when I
was sitting there he was at the doctor so I'm going to call him in the morning get him out to the site get the defined plans spelled out on paper but in the meantime I'll keep carpeting because he advised that in the beginning carpet it because when it thaws water's going to
start running yeah it'll be good to see how the water behaves too with the erosion controls you have in place because you know you could always adjust them yes as needed yeah those two water bars I think will be
impactful well thank you well thank you guys good do we um is the plan to have Steven come back every weeks or is
like I I think at this point the next time we meet I mean if you have your plan ready and you want to come in the next time we meet I but I I don't think they're I don't given that we're as far
away from growing as we are um because the next the next meeting is February 25th and if your goal was to have the the 200 ft of the uh trail with the juk
down then I could come out take photos of that and if you had a plan by them you know you could come we could talk about the photos and the plan I definitely you will okay so let's let's
make okay yep okay so we'll yeah yep next meeting this guy he should have all answers how to address but you're more interested in your area what he does up top
not should I think one of the things that Kristen was saying is that we would need to see some sort of documentation showing whether or not your um any of the activity is within the um um bordering wetlands
Christ Riverfront area yeah if it was in Riverfront area or or um bvw bordering vegetated Wetland like if it's an an actual Wetland or Riverfront which can be Upland but it's still a jurisdictional resource area you know we're going to we're going
to look more closely at at Phil if it's just buffer zone we want to prioritize stabilization more than anything I think right um but if it's like you know a resource area I don't I mean I don't know we would have to talk about that I don't know what the commission's priorities are whether we want to weigh
weigh stabilization over you know resource area impacts because it's kind of already impacted but I mean just saying like just my recommendation would be to put that in writing and put that in a plan and think about it critically so that we can all Hammer through it together and what's
the definition of resource are within the blue line there's there's different types of resource areas so there's the stream um intermittent stream which I believe is what is at the very base of your Trail
um the riverfront area is a resource area so that's the 200 feet so just by being in that 200 feet with the the road you're in the resource area um and then there's wet border um bordering vegetated wetlands
um which is next to a stream so that could be at the base of the road so I guess the question is how how will we know like does he have to get a wetland scientist is that I can go out there and just look I mean I can't GPS it for him but I can at least like eyeball it hang
a flag and we can just piece it you know I dides down roll close to the river as I could it's it's over 160 to the river straight out and
it's about River yeah that's why I was fish that's schol I was just curious how far we are because I thought well if I'm or you
guys are responsible for that area which you are I think you're also responsible for 200t up my because that touches the weapons so I'm going
to I want I want toop too I want to get so I'm excited get or May and focus Tre your first
M this guy already talk to you soon right thanks good um oh yeah the one that you sounded so what am I
okay the night oh 30 Adams Road yeah so Mark when he went by the RDA lot said that there was a possible violation at 30 Adams Road and
permitting clear unpermitted clearing in the buffer zone to bordering vegetated Wetland and bank so I just drove out there and it is let me let me share my screen I'll
bring up the um Ark map screenshot so this so on the right hand side of the screenshot is the r 001 Adams Road so
this is just across Adams Road and the the parcel is in pink um okay and so you can see this is like Wetland uh stream flood
area and um this is a 2019 aerial photo so do you have the 2023 by any chance or well I have so much for you oh good okay I figured if you have all the arcgis figures you're like well I don't
have I actually don't have a 2023 for this but I got really like into Google Street View and this is 2022 I by the way I'm looking at the 2023 Ortho and it looks the same as 2000
there's like nothing to see so yeah so like I mean I don't even know where I should start but like basically this is 2022 um this is in that side row that goes to like a little trailer park situation um so you can see they like
cut and wood shipped what they cut and it's basically like a Port-A-Potty storage lot weird so it looks a little different now like there's a shed here um and so this fence is brand new this
is as a 2022 so like what I learned is that anything after two years you can't do an enforcement order on oh yeah and it does look now that I'm looking at the oros it does look like it expanded a lot just in the last couple years so yeah so like
all this is all this clearing so this is 2019 so see there's all these trees yeah like that the fence isn't there so they cut all those trees down they cut everything down here is that true that they we can't do anything if
it's over two years if it's just a buffer zone because I don't think that's true if it's a resource area why would be true if it's just a buffer zone I did the let's see Mac
handbook um in accordance with that section enforcement actions under the Wetland protection act must begin within two years after the violation I've never heard of that before you must have been something in the last
two years let me look at so let me bring up um my site visit um oh they've done a lot since 21 they've done a ton like okay
so is this is it a business or yeah I think it's like a port in the is it in the industrial park okay so well it's it's in the Z I wanted to I didn't want to start at this end of the photos but basically
they just have this like burm of stuff and this is going towards Route two like I'm like driving towards Route two see there's the BM this is like the far end of the property and we're headed towards the wetlands um so so now we're like in the Woods past that BM there's like piles
like they have like piles in the woods and here's another pile over here so there's the pile there's a pile is it yard waste or do you think that it could be something nefarious I don't know what it is like that's that's Oh you mean like they're dumping their this is the pile you know
it's like oh man I don't oh God like sewage is that what you're saying is that what you were thinking Ah that's where my mind went bottom line is we want to issue an enforcement immediately if we have any legal
traction yeah so then so yeah so then here's the the Wetland you know this is so this is the Little River thing that goes under the uh Road and there's a pile yeah but it's
like th who knows how long right those piles have been there so how do you well the clearing looks like just based on the aerial imagery you look at the 2021 Aerials versus the 2023 Aerials and they're they're really different
I just don't know if it's in buffer zone or resource area well because that's why I was thinking the 2022 Street View street view is like clutch because that's 2019 so because
this is two and a half years ago right summer 2022 wi are 2025 and there's a ton of clearing like there's nothing there mhm yeah so it happened so if I'm
looking at the 2021 Aerials and it's pretty forested and you said the 2019 ones pretty forested but then the 2022 ones all open happened somewhere between 2021 and 2022 which is well outside that twoyear window but if they're still doing stuff
in there they're still continuing to expand they're continuing to dump they might not know about that stipulation we still could scare them yeah I feel like say like we're watching you yeah would be like helpful so so all right so I
just want to bring your attention to this particular photo because there so there's wood chips here this is like you know the northern North Western part of the property kind of
that little like L section of the aial um so just keep that in mind and we'll go back to my is it I might have to scroll by the way that L section is all within the 100 foot and the 200 foot Riverfront so 100
foot buffer zone to bvw and the 200 foot Riverfront area yeah so here we go yeah um so see like they put these sheds there those weren't there before and then there's
also these like piles of logs so here's the wood chip BM under the snow and then there's all these logs so it's like FR like it feels fresher but I couldn't quite identify what trees would be
missing from one you know the 2022 Google view well is the onus on us to determine that I think it's on them if we say we notice you've been doing unpermitted work within our jurisdiction can you please provide us with an with an with a explan
ation come come before us before X date and present to us your reasoning we don't have to say like you know well if it's only been within the last whatever you know that's all you can do I mean just say you know you got some splaining to do what's up like you're in
Riverfront you know you're in buffer zone you're continuing to expand were you going to come before us can you please present to us what you're doing something like that I mean not a cease and assist but you know not an Enforcement issue but just like you know
you're working in our jurisdiction without coming before us what's going on and then give them like a firm date that they should come before us does that make sense what do you guys think yeah I think that seems like a good first step and then they'll have to give us some kind of explanation from there we might
ask them to do a delineation you know we want to then get a sense of what's already been affected and then figure out what kind of remediation or or what kind of um you know agreement we can come to with
them any activity I bet they don't even under they don't even know and they just they probably don't they're just expanding and they you know this would probably be the first step to letting them know that you you actually can't can't just do that yeah yeah yeah because they've been
like doing a lot for many years now and know said anything um yeah so that's that so okay I'll I'll draft up a letter and figure out the owner and mail it off
it's not even a big parcel it's 1.69 Acres yeah makes me crazy well good good find Mark thanks for letting us know okay all right so that's it for new business um and we've already tackled lamp black road which brings us to land
donation uh Parcels R 37- 53-0 and R 37-540 Richard and Gloria East wish to donate these two Parcels to the city of Greenfield for conservation purposes commission to vote on whether to accept the parcels into
conservation feel like we're ready for this one right this is a happy moment good okay so um a motion to accept the donation of parcels R 37-
53-0 and R 37-540 from Richard and Gloria Easton second I wanted to second but I didn't do the S sidewalk so I was letting you guys do
it all right Emily I right Kristen I Erica I I am also an I land acquired now H now it will go to city council and
then they vote and that vote will likely be in March okay but there's one more vote because that's just for the eastn right we had to talk about the golles here did did before but did you did you were you GNA send something to the mayor explaining like why we wanted it or
something I was and then and I was I told Eric that's what I was doing and at the end of my workday and then the next day I came in and the mayor had already said that she support it like it just so happened she was like oh I I support it
and so he's like you don't have to send the letter she already said that and yeah so we bypassed that probably because she walked it and fell in love with it yeah I do think the site visit was impactful for her yeah good we saved
us some work time Jessica there we go efficiency oh yeah I know I feel like I called it in I was like this is what I'm gonna do and then it's like no you don't need to do that uh okay so land donation person R 37- 57-0 Randall goly wishes to donate
this parcel to the city of Greenfield for conservation purposes commission to vote on whether to accept this parcel into conservation can I get a motion also move did you hear me I'll make a motion to that I heard you I'm waiting for
Kristen to say something I I'll second that I just again I was letting you guys run the show because I didn't walk it I had a meeting that day yeah I'm excited about this I'll suck at that all day all right so uh vote Emily hi
Kristen hi Erica hi I am also an i okay right on okay so we have up next priority Parcels map yeah so I wanted to update you guys I had a meeting with the open space task
force uh to discuss the mapping project of um mapping priority Parcels for conservation and it's the project that Mitchell had started it came up when I first got the job and
um uh Jonah I believe it's it's Jonah right uh reached out and um introduced himself and was talking to me about the project and so I was like sure yeah let's do this it's going to be great I'm excited
and so I I joined the meeting and I had like misunderstood kind of like my role I thought I was supporting him with this project but what I came to realize is that it's it's more Under the Umbrella of the Conservation Commission and that
the open space Task Force is is helping kind of be supportive of executing the open space um plan and um anyway so the the meeting was good and we talked about different
um data to consider when setting priorities and how to wait different um different priorities that are important when wanting to conserve land and so we did talk about um
using uh kind of having more um a few different map categories one would be more kind of um environmental habitat based one would be more environmental justice based and um then maybe having
like a grand map where they all um kind of interacted to see how that affected PRI you know priority Parcels um so but it's still in the very beginning stages of understanding know
what what are the what is the data we even want these maps and then and then at that point how would we rate or wait that data um so anyway I just wanted to update you that that meeting happened
and that project is slowly moving forward and I'm squeezing it into nooks and crannies as it comes up in my schedule which um sometimes I have more sometimes I have less yeah no there
okay thanks for attending that Jessica um it definitely didn't want to feel like it was flipping it back into your lap um but that's one of the the interesting lines this task force is walking where we're working with you
know the other um departments and boards to help uh nudge the the plan into reality and so we're trying to figure out who's whose you know primary responsibility or or initiative does
each of these you know priorities that we're working on fall under and then how can we support how can we you know what are the um collaborations that need to be formed or that can be formed to provide all of us you know the energy to do that so we really recognize you know
your capacity limits um but obviously your position you know and work working with the Conservation Commission will be really critical and and it's great too that this was something that there has been an interest on the part of the Commission in the past so that we can
sort of lend our efforts um and then also bring in other partners like um uh meeting before we had um one of the the land you know the land protection specialist from FLT Franklin lanches come in and then I think at the next meeting we're hoping to have someone
from Mount Grace so if any of you are interested in attending feel free not that you need another meeting on your calendar but it is open to the public and um obviously as members of the Conservation Commission you're very welcome you know and um I feel like some
of the the to-dos that we gave ourselves about this were to really come up with that Criterion list and then we can sort of look at how would we wait these what are the priorities that we're looking at and something that I'm pretty excited about is the opportunity we have to do
this mapping and and then do consultation with other entities you know like looking at the environmental justice um you know whatever the entities in town are that are looking at um housing um opportunities I I so many
times the interests for land use end up being at loggerheads we have opportunities to make sure that we're considering each thing and putting each in its place that that's what came up on that walk with the the mayor her first idea you know was to say okay
you need to eliminate this as a as an opportunity for housing because that's a crisis right now and so we talked to her about it and all of us together came to you know a sort of consensus that this wasn't an ideal property so I love the idea of us being able to look at all
those criteria and then see what the town needs are see what natural opportunities are for preservation and then also to see how we can support the needs of the community mhm are they are the meetings virtual or
in person they're um hybrid H okay can you like shoot like a the date of the next meeting or whatever yeah there there's a little bit of a transition about what date it is but yeah I will definitely let you know when the next one is and uh yeah if you want to pop in
feel free and also I can also alert you if we're like working on something and our goal also is to have the main meeting be sort of coordinating efforts that are going on so that there's work you know maybe subcommittees or you know additional so um so we'll see what form
that takes uh in terms of this priority process awesome thank you okay let's see enforcement updates here what have we got 637 cor Road are these old
on okay um I did want to update you on one of the oh sorry I'm jumping ahead oh I mean if those enforcement dates are been on there as old and there's no updates we can move past those yes
okay so the project monitoring yes list of active order of conditions what are what are we well this is just the ongoing list of active um nois but I've
been reaching out to everybody to introduce myself because Mitchell's been their contact from for most all of these um and trying to see where MIT Mitch left off and you know pick up like past
the Baton basically and so for 12:45 Bernardston Road it's a Solar Development project uh Mitch was waiting on the Swip um plan and inspection reports and
I I got them okay and I filed them so that was one of the conditions okay is that we had the inspection reports so we have like monthly reports dating back to like last summer that are saved um in the folder for you guys excent and I'm
going to do a site visit they they finished all the um Civic parts of the plan and they're starting on electrical is what they told me and I'm going to do a site visit When there's less up gotcha
uh so I don't know what that's G be um but that that is the update on that project oh great cool thank you yeah any other updates on any of these uh no not not any like significant ones like that
okay the the three 84 Deerfield I did do the um preconstruction site visit and uh that went well and they are doing demoing and I'm going to go again before they start like actual digging GRS right
now they're just demoing okay all right do we have anything else don't see anything on the agenda um so borrowing any comments from the rest
of the commission um can we get a can we get a motion I will motion to adjourn second second all right uh Emily hi Kristen hi Erica hi I am an also an I
am also an i meeting is adjourned we will meet again February 25th 2025 at 6:30 p.m. [Music]