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>> I Michael Mullen am here. >> I w here. Okay. Um, is there any public comment? I see we have people here. Is it
>> have a agenda item on there? Lindsay. >> Great. We'll we'll get to you then. Jimmy, uh on Zoom, uh if you have a comment, let us know.
>> All right. Uh approval of minutes. Um I do not have the minutes from September and Jim I now advis is out of town. So if we could um table them until next month. Great.
>> Should we make a motion to table them? Okay. I move that we table the minutes until next month. >> Mike, you want to give us a second? >> I second that motion. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I
Yes. Do we have to say or say it? >> We're all here. I guess >> you're fine exactly how you did. >> We're all here. Yes. >> Yeah. >> I'm doing I'm doing minutes. Thank you. So, I'm trying to
>> minutes if you'd like. So, you don't have to >> I'll try to Yeah, I can do them. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, new business. Uh Lindsay is here for removal of Street parking on 100 to 102 Franklin
Street driveway. Okay. >> Hi, I'm Lindsay Hindley. Um I own 102 Franklin Street. I have for 23 years and um there's been a lot of issues regarding the parking in front of my
home by just one pretty much one individual. But that's not the reason I'm here. The reason I'm here is not for what they're doing, but for what I need, which is a separate entrance to my home that's more like to call aged friendly. Um, I need a
separate entrance to on the opposite side of my home. And there's space there that's pretty much exactly the same space as where my other driveway is. Um, it doesn't go all the way down. Well, it would, but I'd have to take out a mailbox. But there's enough space to park. Um, in addition, if I had to,
which I'd rather not take it out, um, there's a space in front of my house. If you need to see pictures, I have. >> Okay. Um, I guess the question is, are we the right body to make?
>> Well, I was told you were. I went to first to Eric, is it TK who told me to go to DPW to get a permit. DPW said um, if it they could, they were all on board. But then I said, "Okay, but just so you know, it's take going to take out two parking spaces." And they said, "Oh,
no, no, then you have to go >> to the parking commission meeting and then >> go from there." >> So that's the two spaces being removed. So from a safety perspective, >> there's several there's more than two spaces in front of my home, but I'm only asking for the two because those are the
ones that are blocking pretty much anything from my home. I I have handicap placard as does my know my my girlfriend, my my PCA. None of us actually can park there >> in front of my own home and you know it's not working and it's I think it's
the best solution to resolve a conflict that having with a neighbor who for some reason insists on parking two two cars in those spots which blocks me from being able to use my garden hose or you know my floors if she sees that I'm trying to put flowers in my car she'll
pull up her car just to block me. >> Yes. I think I you were here last year >> uh two yeah a year and a half ago. So it's been two summers now that I couldn't have my flower business. And that's okay. You know I I was willing to just say okay that's not you know I want to keep the piece here and I chose to garden over at um I rented a plot at
Just Roots Farm and another one in Turners. But I would like to be able to um what ended up happening is she filed a fraudulent insurance claim against my tenants the way that she was parking making it very difficult and then my tenants moved out and I you know so I
have an empty apartment now >> and it's going to continue to be an issue. Um but that not even just that I do pay for a parking space over at the church so my tenants can park in the winter. Um, however, what I'm needing is a more closer entrance to the back of my house
so that I can make um I wouldn't call it a handicap entrance. Someday it probably will be, but right now it's just more of a um an easier entrance to the home. Eventually, I hope to have an ADU there and I would need a separate driveway.
Does anybody know the This is the first time. I think this is called >> John. >> I'd like to see the pictures of what you want. Okay. >> Well, uh this is my home. Um I ended up
putting this um ugly um what's it called? Lattice work up uh to help keep my I have a cat. So, I don't know if you remember Cinderfella. Um because I don't trust this other person. I just to try to keep him more safe, I put this up.
And this is her car. Um she parks. This is my entrance to my home. And she intentionally parks so close to me that I can't get into my own home. This was the car that she used to
have. And she filed this insurance claim. This is a car she was going to get rid of for parts, mind you. She filed this insurance claim, got this bumper fixed, and then just parked the car there from May all summer. Um, so that both her cars there just blocking,
so I can't get to my garden hose. She has her own driveway. Um, you know, it's reached a point of harassment, but to be honest, she obviously has some mental health issues, and I'd rather not go the like police harassment. Yeah, I mean, um, not police, but court harassment route. I
just need to be able to park in front of my house and have my tenants be able to park in front of my house. And so if that means I have to take out that part of my um property, as you can see, right behind her car? >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> You mean you want to drive onto the property?
>> Is that what you're trying to >> What I want to be able to do is see to the left of my house. That would be my first preference to just put a small driveway there. >> Okay. Um, but to be honest, it probably would make more sense to just make it one big driveway. That way, probably
more than one car could even park there. >> In between the blue and the orange house. >> Excuse me. Or >> I am the blue house. >> You're the blue house, but you want the driveway in between the blue and the orange house. >> Correct. >> If that's not enough space, then I could
put it like see how his driveway is up against the road off the road. I could do that except that there's a sidewalk in between which is kind of the issue because you know you have to have uh pavement from the Well, right now it's just a tree belt >> full of flowers. But >> yeah.
>> And and is the city going to cut the curb for you? >> They said they would, but they can't do anything without approval to give up those two parking spaces because those are public parking spaces, which is why she's so, you know, determined to park there. She's just like, "No, I'm parking there at public parking spaces." But she
can legally. So um >> but I would just really like to keep the peace in our neighborhood. And I mean, it's going it's going on two years of this. And it's just really hard for me to, um, not be able to have access to my own home. I have a garden hose there on
that side where the in between myself and the orange house. So, there was never any issues up until two years ago. I used to just pull my car up, fill up my buckets with my uh, garden hose. So now it's more so because she has a um
tablet out her bathroom window that faces my garden. So I don't like to garden there anymore. So I have a garden at just roots farm. But that means I like have to fill up my buckets of water to >> So um I I I
think this is the first time we've had a request uh like this. Um >> well it's Do you need to see it? I don't need to, but I live talking about. >> So, um I guess I'm wondering about the
>> how that interacts with the it is it is on a T there. So, I guess if the DPW I guess I'm wondering if there's some safety concerns about having a driveway directly across from the T, whether that's a concern or not, which I don't I do not know.
>> Well, their driveway is right in the middle of that T. They back right out into that. >> Okay. On the on your other side. >> That that blank driveway. That's her driveway that she doesn't park at. She likes to park in front of my house. >> On on the other side. >> I'm sorry. Bill Noise's house is um that
Oh, on that one. The one that you have. See how his just goes right into the road? >> That is the T right there where his driveway is goes out into. >> Yeah. That's um Right A.
>> That's right avenue. Okay. But he he's he's on he backs out into Right Avenue. >> Correct. >> Yes. Okay. >> He has five parking spaces there and she has one, but >> yeah, I remember that. >> Yeah. >> We remember all the
>> Oh, yeah. It kind of got messy cuz like, you know, I thought I could just reason with her and say, "Hey, you know, here's an unlimited car wash pass." And then she called the police and it's been like a contentious there's probably been 30 calls back and forth um with the police cuz she'll intentionally park. She
hasn't parked there there. She parked so close to my drive my other driveway that I can't get out, you know, to safely be able to back out. And she does finally only have the one car, the one that she had the bumper put on, the junk car is gone. But since May 5th, she had had
them both parked there. And there was a major incident between um herself and one of my handymen people on May 5th. Um my role is broken, so we had to like pull his big big vehicle in his big long trailer. And so he had parked in that
spot cuz it was empty. So then she just comes out of her car and just moves her car and then puts it right in front. So he can't move out. He has to let and try to back out. and they got into a real I wasn't there thankfully, but they got into a very volatile swearing match in the middle of the
road. And then that day she posted really horrible, horrible things about me on Greenfield Mass. >> So this is your police department. >> This is your driveway here. >> That's my driveway. >> And then you want another driveway here. >> And just big enough for one car
basically. >> And because the back, see that? I don't know if you could see that walkway, but it goes down there. That's a separate entrance to the home in the back. I'm trying to create a separate entrance, which eventually, you know, someday when I have the money, I'd love to knock down my garage and put an ADU, but right now
I'm just trying to use >> Well, this doesn't go on their property if you go in there. >> Um, >> but you can't do that. >> Well, I don't know. I don't know to be honest because I'll when when I asked them, they said, "Oh, our property is
actually right out into the middle of the road." Like if you look at the property maps from back when their house was moved from across the street to where it is now, back when it was originally in place and and the other strange fact is that at my house, okay, I have a two family and then there used
to be another two family there. So I have a 30x 60 foot flower garden there now and unfortunately there's a driveway under it. So when I can afford it, I'd like to take the driveway out from under my garden and then put build raised beds and have like kind of a community
garden. That's just what I do. I garden with kids in the community and all over the place to be honest. But >> well, I'm not sure there's enough room here that you aren't impinging on the property that goes with that house. >> Okay. And if there isn't enough space, then I could use my my lawn space which
is in between behind her car and my porch. >> I think there it would beight there's a setback that's required. So, I'm just trying to look up there. There's a certain amount of space you need um the depth of the driveway and and
>> which I don't remember what it is right now. I'm trying to look it up right here. >> I think it's like 25 by 17 ft that >> that is that for us that would be that's that's on the permanent end. I think if if if our question is now strictly speaking to the
>> our strictly but if if if it's not possible so I guess because the steps here would be for you to to presumably for us to say yes fine to get rid of the spots. >> Mhm. >> And then you to go and get
>> to be honest I'm probably just going to have my tenants park right there. They've been parking there for 20 years >> in front there. But then but then >> until she started parking their two cars. That doesn't work. >> That doesn't work. >> Well, if it's a driveway, I mean, I block my driveway all the time because it hurts my neck to go up in my driveway
and she parks in front of my house, so there's no other place for me to park. So, I park blocking my own driveway. >> Yeah, but >> that's not ideal. That's not That's not legal. >> It's not illegal to park across my own driveway. Oh, the police chief says it is. >> So, I don't know.
>> Okay. But I'm just It It definitely seems convoluted. >> Okay. Well, I was told that because I was eventually going to add an ADU and that it is I'm creating a different entrance that I was entitled to have a separate driveway space, but I hear what you're saying about it possibly
encroaching on their property. And I don't know what the I didn't know what the stipulations are. I called Eric. Eric sent me to DPW. DPW sent me here. >> Yeah. So, >> be gold circle and I would really rather not go the
harassment route, but this has reached a a point of harassment. >> Yeah. >> Um, so I was thinking, well, wouldn't it be easier if I just had the space and I could either have my flowers stand there or a driveway or anything other than her cars.
>> I I totally hear you there. Um, >> we've been parking there ever since her they she used to live in my building um like I don't know many many years ago 12 years ago. Um they were there for four years and her twin sister accidentally killed my dog running over my dog in the driveway. So tenants started parking on
the street and then I paid for them to park at the um the church there on the corner. Okay. >> Just how this whole thing started was I said, "Hey, would you mind just moving your car Memorial Day weekend over to the church so my grandkids could have a lemonade stand?" And she said, "No,
Lindsay. It's public parking." And it's just been all out. >> Where did you finish >> conflict ever since? >> Okay. >> If it can't happen, it can't. But um I was told that I could have an a separate driveway if I
>> Is it the DWIP supposed to among this? Not us >> because we don't have it there. >> As far as agreed >> legality legality of whether or not it's safe and permittable to have a driveway there
>> or the police >> somebody >> it's not safe with what's happening. I'll tell you that. Well, >> I think the thing that was within your purview is whether or not removal of those two public parking spaces in that particular location is something that
this commission feels would be um a good or a bad thing or >> and and just to I'm sorry to interrupt to give you a little history. these there those three spots there were permitted to a hair salon that used to be across the street Chrissy Pondisi when she moved >> and then it became permit parking
because it was needed for the courthouse and then once it wasn't needed for that they took down all the signs and now it's just anybody can park there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um >> except for me evidently and my girlfriend >> and my p any of my other PCAs or family
members. I mean, she just it's just it's just ridiculous. >> Yeah. >> I don't know how else to solve this. >> So, >> and and why would it take away the parking spaces in front if you had a driveway?
>> Because my driveway will have to either come from in front of my house, which is where she's parking her car, or on that side, which there may not be a room, but even if there is, her car would be blocking it. So, there's those two spots. There's three spots there. There's one further up and then there's
two by my garden. I'm not even asking for those. She wants to park over in front of my garden. Block my garden. How about it? That's is I mean it's just so ridiculous. I mean, she sends has the town send me notices. I put sunflowers in the tree belt. She had the town
saying I couldn't have anything in the tree belt. It's just okay. Find me all you want because the sunflowers aren't coming down. >> I mean, they're down now. >> So, sorry to take up so much time. >> I'm just looking at the zoning here to
see what um so 12 12 ft from the road edge. >> So, she can't park in front of that. >> Oh. Where I park now is to the right of my house, but I don't use the driveway.
That driveway is now for like grand kids, plants, and pets ever since my dog got run over there. So, I only park just enough room for one car as you go in that driveway. And that's what I'm hoping to do on the other side. So I guess the question is how
how much space you have there um on your >> what do I have there? Um se um 17 by 13 ft I think. >> I could be mistaken. It might not be. >> So anyway, this is not our purview. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. No, no. That that's that when you when you go to get a permit for your driveway, >> then that would be there. That would be >> They've already said that they would give me the permit to take that curb out because that's all I'd have to do them to do. And part part of the curb is
already gone. I don't know why, but part of my house is already gone in the very front where she's parking. >> Yeah. But you're going to in order to do the driveway in there, I presume that you need some sort of permit to put a driveway in there. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So >> yeah, but there's no they won't even
give me to it give it to me. There's no sense even me applying for it unless I can actually put a driveway there, which I can't if there's two parking spaces blocking it. >> Can we thought experiment and say assuming all permit conditions are met?
>> Yes. do we have any um how and discuss that and then kind of move backwards and see if there's >> um >> I mean I >> again if it doesn't comply but if there's a variance that you're label enable to get I don't I still don't
think we are necessarily involved in that discussion either >> well life path would suggest that I put see if I could get handicap parking there because since I have a handicap placard as does you know um other people that visit me but I just I think it's going to be more even more complicated
to do that than to just take them out altogether because then she'll just try to figure out how to get cat. >> Yeah. >> Would we want to try to discuss that question? The conditional assuming everything question and then
>> remove two park spaces. >> Yes. It actually to be honest would make it safer as far as my property because the way it's now the way it stands now when the town redid the sidewalks it all pulls water right there where that that where that where I want that. So it all pulls water. It's just glare ice every
every winter. >> Okay. >> Whereas if that was taken out the water would actually go down the driveway and into the drain because the drain is right where her car is parked. Um >> it'd be easier if somebody saw the space but >> yeah. So, um
I think so the question is whether we want to remove parking um those two spots and uh you know I'm always I'm I guess I'm a little concerned about
just getting stuck in between obviously you know a >> intentious >> contentious situation and where Uh the reasoning it's >> well she didn't have any other place to
park. I would agree with you but there's two other places in front of my garden directly across from her house. What I'm what I'm saying is that if you were say hey you know >> if if this if she didn't exist >> I'd be parking on the street like we
have been the last 20 years. >> Yeah. But but this is for our our our question to ourselves, right? This thought thought experiment, right? >> Okay. If if this reason didn't exist and it was a different reason, right? How would we make this decision?
>> The bigger reason is that I need an entrance, a separate entrance that is not that driveway entrance. The entrance is on the opposite side of the house. I didn't take a picture of that. It would have been easier to explain. >> This is where the >> that draw >> they're here. Yeah. If you can see that walkway up there that goes all the way
up that there's a there's an entrance there that I want to make into a um >> and you do have a driveway is the other thing. >> I have a very unlevel driveway that's going to cost $10,000 to make level. >> Yes, but it's going to cost at least $10,000 to put in a driveway
>> on the other side. >> I don't think so because I can put in like a keystone type thing. >> Okay. >> I don't have $10,000. So if that's what it's going to cost then I won't be able to do it. I don't think she has the room over there between her and the other house.
>> So, yeah, that's >> I mean, if you were to look at his property line, it actually goes out into Franklin Street. >> That's going to make any sense. >> Yeah. So, but regardless, the question
is whether or not you know these two spaces, right, um would be lost. Um, I have a second question. They were permitted at one uh for a business. >> I They were >> Yeah, they were permitted for um Chris
Pondi. She had a hair salon right across the street. >> I remember her coming and saying >> she got those three spots. It said um >> two-hour parking only and >> two-hour parking only. >> Right. And >> she had that there for years for her hair salon.
>> I remember I remember her coming. Okay. And so >> and that that was Yeah. >> Okay. So then my question is I mean I have a flower business. I mean if she can have parking for a hair salon, can I have parking? >> We did not do it for a hair salon. We could put it up for two-hour parking
there potentially. If you want to do that, that means people can only park there for two hours at a time. >> Yeah, that that just complicates thing. I mean, we had that there for years and everybody parked there and nobody ever got ticketed. Um I'm just I'm just curious how she was able to get um because >> so that was part of the negotiation
around doing the permit parking cuz she came cuz we did all that permits right for the >> Yeah. They then turned it all to permit parking once she left. So that was all permit parking at that time and then she said, "Hey, I have clients." >> Okay.
>> They can't they don't have permits. How can we negotiate this around this? So that's what happened that I believe. >> So in this case, >> well that house now has a driveway about a pages on the side of the house.
>> Yeah. So, um, do we do we want to I feel like we should think about this and give I feel like I want a little bit more information about this. I want to maybe go by there and think about how much parking we want um in that area. And so,
>> the other alternative is to take it out where there is no park. There is no I mean it's there's space in front of my garden, but it's not like there's no painted line. So, I mean it's still public parking. people park there all the time. >> But the other option would be I would
have to then take those parking spaces out and widen my own driveway to make it wide enough to have two. >> But that doesn't solve the problem of having a separate driveway for the separate entrance. >> So I think in this case because they're not marked spaces, we would not have to
make a decision about that. >> And and so I'm sorry, what would I do then? the one over for the your if you're widening your driveway. Yeah. >> Which you can't really do. >> I can't >> because there's a um the zoning is at a
maximum of 16 ft residential width of the driveway. >> Okay. Well, it's only about 13 ft now, >> right? So, you can only add 3 ft on there. >> Well, >> so as a maximum. So, >> h even though that used to that whole plot used to be a driveway. >> That that way that was before the
zoning. So, >> thank you for clarifying. >> Yeah. >> Um, so yes. Well, I think we should I I hope that we table this and think about it and bring come back next month and
have >> you go look at >> go look at >> I mean, pretty soon it's going to be a parking ban in the winter and nobody's going to be able to park there anyways. >> Well, no, it's only parking ban now during snow emergencies. Oh, >> you can people can park on
>> I did not know that. I thought it was any time that they needed to plow. That's >> that's during a snow emergency. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, but but that's a pretty limited amount of time. >> Yeah. >> Oh, say that.
>> Is that a motion? >> So, do we want >> that? Was that a motion? Um I So you need us to make a motion? >> I do. >> At least my for my superficial thoughts at least thinking about it is that a
marked parking space and an unmarked parking space unmetered un signed for specific use is kind of identical. Mhm. >> So my at least saying my bias is that >> then it's you you know then my my
inclination so if anyone wants to at least I'll put that out there and I say okay I'll accept that that's out in the world but I everyone else wants to think about it and talk about it more then cuz that's yeah that's just my >> because they weren't painted before the um
they weren't painted before the courthouse construction. Is that true? >> Um, I don't remember. >> Yeah, I have a feeling they were >> I just know there used to be a sign there that said you couldn't park there and now there isn't. >> You couldn't park there.
>> Not unless you had a permit because it was parking for the courthouse. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But now that the garage I think that those spaces the the lined spaces happened as part of because then for the permitting we had to have spaces
basically. >> I think you're right. And then because they didn't go the other two the other spot past my direct. >> So I Mike I hear what you're saying like it's not just because they're lying doesn't mean >> yeah this isn't the case where there's a
meters out there or something else that so >> in any case so if we want to reflect on there and I'm happy to put forward a motion for reflecting to next time >> and I'll second the motion for reflection. >> Okay.
>> All right. Any discussion or >> I say I >> I John, do you want to vote? >> Yeah. Yes. I >> I think you have to say your name because you're
>> John Anhalt. I >> thank you. >> Well, thank you. I come back next month or not. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We'll put you on We'll put you on the >> agend. Great. Thank you for your time. >> Then we can discuss it without if for
any reason something happens, >> right? We can still continue our discussion. Yes. Don't feel Don't feel like you have to be here for us to discuss. >> You don't have to be here real soon. I don't >> I don't own a computer. I don't I'm not on social media. Don't do that. I would
not be able to keep my mouth shut with what's going on in the world. So, >> if you want to come, we welcome you. If you don't, >> I appreciate that. >> I wish I had flowers left to bring, but they're all gone. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> What else?
>> What else? What else? We have we have the um >> yes. Okay. All right. The businesses where do we learn anything about that? >> The FRTA. Yeah.
>> I forwarded to you an email that I received this morning from my contact. I reached out to her. Um >> I can just read it if you'd like. >> Uh hello Amy. So sorry for my delay. There have been many many near misses and there is a delay the buses turning
out to start the routes. Our thought was it would make the public aware that there may be a delay or pause at that location. Yes, you are correct. It may not be it may be obvious however not to someone that does not live here. Reminder and a reminder and awareness
was what we were going going with it. I think she means what we were going for. So my interpretation of that is that um the buses coming out to start their routes, they're looking for something to signal to traffic that buses may be turning out of there um and that they
may have to there may be a delay or pause at that location. >> Mhm. >> And there have been many ear misses. So I presume with buses coming out and cars not realizing that they have to stop. >> It's a tricky spot. >> Yeah. in a sign do you think will really
solve that problem? >> I'm I'm challenged with where >> that sign should go and what it should say. >> Me too. That's my question. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm assuming
that where you turn in and it says buses only is where they come and go from, right? the parking lot area. Yes. But I believe what she's talking about though, you make a good point. In my head, she was
talking about turning from Bank Row onto Olive Street. >> Google Street View up here. So, um, so I think she's talking about you're coming down, you'd be driving on this side of the street.
So, if you're coming down all of Street, you'll be coming out and making a left or a right there. They're saying if the sign was there, then there'd be some kind of warning around that, >> right? >> You think signage on Olive Street? >> I thought I thought I think I think it'
be if there was signage on Bank Row. >> I Yes. I thought the dilemma is that either cars coming up from Deerfield Street turn in and kind of the buses trying to leave the >> or vice versa.
>> There is. I mean, I'm just trying to be aware. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I'm not a sign believer. >> Um, if you're not paying that much attention to the overall conditions,
then I don't know the sign adds. >> No. And it's not like >> open to a suggestion of here's where, here's what, and then we could look at that. But I don't know if we >> I thought where she was talking about was right there. >> Right where like the
>> Yeah, that's where where the state police parking only made us. >> That's like a sign there. >> It seems very buried. >> Is that is No, this is I'm at the wrong place. We're across the street. >> Yeah, this is across. So this is
>> There's the building. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And so if you go down there, I thought she was talking about there where the buses come in and out. >> I don't think that's what she she's talking about going from Hope Street from All Street onto Bankro, right? >> And where do buses exit?
>> Right there. >> That's >> that's where they go in. They come out here and then they will either >> I mean I just >> left or right and then that's where this conflict point is happening where this bus is trying to come out on a short street and the cars are maybe just turning in and haven't really looked
that far down the road. >> I think the buses might actually come out this way too. >> I think so too. >> Yeah, I think they >> go in and turn turn around and come back out. >> But I drove by there to look at it and couldn't figure out what a sign would solve. I was I was going to say I've
been hoping she would um be able to join our meeting um because I think it would be helpful to hear from her directly or someone from FRTA. So I could ask them to either have somebody come I could say that we're having trouble picturing where exactly this sign would go and
what it should say. So if they could either offer up a schematic sketch or something >> or an idea of a sign or have somebody who could join the meeting. >> Yeah. just like an >> a little annotation on Google Street View or something, right? >> Yeah.
>> You ask for a a concrete proposal about where and where and what sign they would like to see. >> Um and we can discuss >> that that kind of proposal. Um I think our feelings right now at least
is still that we're not very lukewarm on the the idea to begin with. At least let them know, let them know that they know that if they want to do this, they can make a proposal. But I >> even if I see a proposal, I don't know what's going to win me over in a strong
way. But I want to hear what where they want it. Like I'm going to put a sign up. >> I think your point is well taken that until we know exactly where they want it located and what it says, we're making a lot of assumptions that >> they probably would like us not to make. Can we phrase that into a a nice
singular motion? Something like >> um Wait, do I have to say motion to make a motion first? >> No. >> First, we make the motion and then we get a second. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, >> a motion to ask them to please
give us a more concrete proposal. >> Yeah. To motion to request a concrete proposal >> for the signage. >> Yeah. or signage >> wording and placement voting wording >> placement wording and placement.
Thank you. Um so I cohort a motion to request concrete proposal for signage including wording and placement from >> and I'll second it. Right. >> Put that to a vote. >> Yeah. Any discussion? >> We We did that.
>> Okay. All in favor? >> I Michael Mullen in favor. >> Good in favor. >> Jean Wall in favor. >> Sean and Hall in favor. All right.
>> Thank you. All right. Developing priorities continue implementation of the parking study recommendations. Um, do we have >> So, I had this as a carryover from a prior agenda. Um my thought is that I
can work with Judy to find I think Christian had a Excel spreadsheet of some sort where he was tracking. >> Yes. >> So I could get that um to Judy. We could put that together for the next meeting. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Great. >> Similarly, I would like to maybe extend
that a little bit and also look at the traffic study. Right. I feel like we should look at traffic there. Uh, sorry. The complete streets or uh green streets is what it's called.
There's another study that talks that deals more with traffic concerns like other like things like that. Yeah, I think it would be good to maybe take a look at these recommendations
as a whole and try to start turning them into something that's more like either at some level of vision um to a to-do list to a like concrete set of here maybe some policy changes or
recommendations that that start getting line item concrete and is that kind where we'd like to start moving with some of this. >> Yeah. So, we did have that for the parking and traffic for the parking study. We ended up with that >> a list of concrete things. >> Yeah. >> They were trying to move forward their
recommendations. I went through their recommendations >> and actually got through quite a few of them. So, continuing that sounds great. >> Yeah. So, um we had an Excel spreadsheet that was listed the recommendations that you had decided to work on and what you had done with them. Um so um I will and
you can send that to us. >> Send that out in advance. >> Okay, cool. >> Yeah, that would be great. So then that would help. I mean all was helpful for me to come in and here and there piece together some old meetings from YouTube
but I think having >> super good um >> Sebastian I'm not sure which other study you are referring to. Full disclosure. >> Yes. Were this related to the downtown main street or is this unrelated to the
>> main street the main street the um downtown revitalization plan but I don't think that be relevant >> I think that's already beyond us isn't it isn't >> I think there may be issues that could come back here at a later date on that
but I don't think Um, >> so there's a complete streets plan from 2017. >> Yeah, that's this is now you're now this is the right I remember looking at these. >> Yes. So there's the complete street plan for
police trees prioritization plan from the summer of 2017 which I have here. Um they go through a list of things um around more around traffic than parking. >> Yeah. Um, and so it'd be interesting for us to take a look at that and see
whether there's anything from this plan that we could continue forward. >> Yeah, I had forgotten about that. >> Yeah, >> sure. >> And a bunch of things have happened. >> Yeah, >> we're looking to continue priorities.
So, for the parking recommendations, we've got an Excel spreadsheet. We'll bring that back. >> And we think this is a good starting point for um the traffic side of the equation. >> Yeah. To speak. And
this is the 2017 >> 2017 uh complete street prioration plan. >> I don't know if I had >> maybe then we can back. This might be Judy at this point, but
you can send this out to all of us. >> Send what to >> This is going to be the complete streets plan. And >> I got it. >> Yeah. >> And then and then we'll all have them and we'll sort of mle over them and come in. >> Yeah. >> Um
>> we will study and >> I almost brought my copy of Donald Trump's The High Price of Free Parking. I don't know if anyone has that book. It's like 700 pages book. >> It's a great book. >> Rest in peace. We died last year, I think. Um,
priorities inclination. But those are our two resources. We get those out after this meeting. Give us everyone time to study. >> And I'm sure I but looking for it would be >> I will send you a PDF or a link
depending on the size of the file. That's good. So I don't have to look for it right? No problem. >> Yeah. If it's a spreadsheet in Excel, I request it Excel format, not don't PDF it. >> No, no. I'm talking about that that 2017
report, not the >> Yes. Yes. Yeah. Got >> And are are we getting another parking space from the bank next to the library? They were supposed to give us a parking
space for when they tore down the >> I have no idea where that landed, but I can find if you would like me to report back. >> I mean, it's worth inquiring about because I see in going through my notes, people were asking about that.
>> Um, this is something that was also kind of on our agenda last time. There was just two things I have here. We had this question of funneling information into parking and
traffic. >> Um, did anyone I I kind of been thinking about that since the last meeting. I don't know if anyone wants anything to sort of hit on on that note. How does the like for example the office
of the mayor decide what's going to get directed to us? who's going to DPW. >> Um I >> I would just like to say that this isn't on our agenda. >> High level discuss it and then put it on the agenda for next time.
>> So yeah, do we want to make a do we want these are kind of some I guess like now we're looking at a lot of these like >> not the particular question in front of us but trying to help. >> Totally. I just want to caution you against getting into a deep conversation about it, but but you can craft the
agenda item. >> So, yeah. Do we like we want to come back to that? Um, >> do you think that we'll have time next time? >> I mean, I think in the future we need to that maybe working on the parking and the traffic leads into
>> the discussion of how it all works. >> So, why don't why don't we put it on the agenda for next? We could put a Yeah, let's let's put it in and close it and we'll I will at least present >> maybe like a framework and we could think about that. Doesn't have to turn
into a vote on anything. >> I think we if it's on the agenda next month, then we can vote on it, right? So, >> yeah. >> Yeah, if we want to. If we don't want to, we don't have to. >> Yeah. >> Michael, could I ask you to correct that into what might resemble an agenda? um
work and I could >> I was Yeah. My hope was my hope was to do these so that I could kind of like have one of you look at them and be like how do these like kind of like look as minutes. It's like a little bit of a rough trial. >> So your so the your proposal for the agenda next week is
>> is to >> well if he puts it in the minutes then I can just pull it from him. >> Yes. a proposal to discuss um uh how the um opposite mayor determines what matters should come before parking and traffic, BPW,
GPD. >> We can just we can just stick with parking traffic. All right. Um, do we want to talk about our next next meeting or our next meeting >> to know you? is on there, but it's the week of Thanksgiving. >> It is the week of Thanksgiving and Judy
would like to go on vacation. >> And I think a lot of >> I'm going to be in Charleston, South Carolina. No matter. >> Oh, fantastic. Now, I know I can be backup if you all want to hold the meeting. >> Do we want to hold it the week before, the week after also something like that?
>> The week before be fine for me. Hi. >> I can't do it on the 18th >> because I already have Wait a minute. Am I in Dece? Yeah, I can't do it on the 18th, which would be the Tuesday.
>> So, >> I have a 6:30 meeting that day. >> Okay. What about uh the second? >> Maybe I'm on the wrong >> Oh, the 2nd of December, >> right? That would be the week after. Sure, I can do the theme.
>> I'm happy with the 2nd of December. That would probably also be convenient with the next holiday block that's coming. I think we're pushed a little on the other side of it. >> Yep. >> Um, so >> yeah. >> Do we need a motion to just >> say that? Okay. So, we're looking at
this December second for the next meeting. Thank you. >> Okay. So, it would be at 6 on the second. Is that okay with you? >> Yes, that's perfect. So, we don't have to come to South
Carolina. >> Although, Charleston, >> I didn't know going to Charleston was an option. There's >> a lot of great parking and traffic. >> They have good Thanksgiving food in Charleston, I bet.
Okay. >> Um, >> okay. I think you get to motion to >> motion to adjourn. >> Second the motion. >> All in favor? >> Gene Mo. Yes. >> Gwin, yes. >> Michael Mullen, yes.
>> Don Hall, yes. >> All right. Thanks everyone. [Music] Part: 2
Okay, welcome to the Greenfield Public Schools Community Engagement Subcommittee meeting. It is Tuesday, October 28th, 2025. It is 6 p.m. We are in the Greenfield High School Library to make sure that it was doing it.
There's a popup. >> No problem. Thank you. All right, we will do our roll call. Um, Elizabeth Den, I am here. Member Ston, >> I am here. >> Uh, member Goodwin is not present. And
also present is our super superintendent Roland Joy. We have a quorum. We'll now uh call the meeting to order at 6:04 p.m. Do we have any public comment? >> There are not currently any participants
on Zoom or in the room. >> Okay. Okay, I also forgot I need to read the chair statement. This meeting is being recorded. If any other persons present are also recording, you must not notify the chairperson of the subcommittee at this time. >> Anyone else is recording? >> Nope, it's just us. All right. So, we
don't have any public comment, although I did have one member of the public who said that they might want to. So, if they happen to jump in later, I'd love to revisit that. Okay. Um, could I have a motion to
suspend Robert's rules of order so we could make this a working session? >> Some moved. >> Second. Any discussion? >> All in favor? >> I. >> I. All right. Robert's rules suspended. Next up on our agenda is discussion of any updates on merging all district
event calendars into one combined calendar. Take it away. Of course. >> So, we've had some good progress coming on that. Uh if you go to the Greenfield public schools web page the start there
is a place for calendars and we've made some changes on the calendars so that it is a little more accessible to people and there'll be there options where they can choose everything for the district or they can
pick it down to the schools that they want. >> We've started to input it. The next step really now is getting information in there. So I think that the we we've been talking about the layout and actually getting it to be brought up to 2025 now, right? And in
that sense so I think if you look at it, it will give the appearance of somewhat of a Googleish type calendar where there's different dots and all the events that are there and you can pick on like you may have multiple calendars, you can pick on one or multiple or all
for district. In that sense, we're now in the process of pushing it out. I mean, it's out there to the schools already, but now having them enter their school calendars because they've been keeping separate calendars and getting all that information in there. So, by the next month, right, the next time we
meet, we would hope that would all be completed and that should be a pretty concise calendar. >> That's wonderful. But we're not going to meet in November or December because the dates were too close to holidays. So we just decided to scrap it. >> So I guess I have
>> So we'll still be pushing then November for us internally. >> Okay. When could we make an announcement? Like could would New Year's be enough time to >> That would be plenty. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Because it would be great to make an announcement at one of our meetings about this. >> Maybe even not the November, but maybe
even December posted. >> Great. So, can the parents subscribe yet or is it still kind of betaing? >> Um, that's a good question. I don't know the answer to that one. I will find out. >> Okay, wonderful. I'm so happy. Thank you so much, Roland. This has been a goal
for a long time and I think it's really going to help people. >> We've also already added our school committee meetings to the calendar through next June. >> Yay. to the one on the GPS >> website. And
>> so parents if they and there is another page, the school committee page where we have the meetings listed just list version wise, but it's showing up on the calendar now >> as well. All those are on there. >> So does this mean that we don't have to
maintain a Google calendar? Can we just use this as our school committee calendar? because the only additional things I put on there are like MASC events, >> but >> those >> Well, we haven't because we list we're
listing the school committee meetings under the district, >> but now that you're mentioning, if you wanted to eliminate that other calendar, maybe we could have a district, you know, calendar, you know, we could add a school committee. So, if somebody wanted to filter that out.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Let me let me check on that. >> Okay. And then if we did that, then I wouldn't probably see any reason why you couldn't get rid of that. >> Okay. Just thinking of how we could streamline it. >> Absolutely. >> Then to add even more to the to the cake
is the city council has a dream of like all a unified calendar for all. >> That's a big calendar. It's a big ask because we also use total two totally different backend calibering systems and so getting them to speak to one another
or to decide to use just one >> be too tedious of a process for us to imagine right now. >> So definitely not in your >> It's a dream. >> All right. >> Please convey to um it's Ian Edwards,
right? Please convey to him our thanks. >> Yeah. No, he's done a nice job. Yeah, >> great. >> There you go. All right. Anything else about that? Are you complete? >> I
complete. Okay. Good. >> All right. So, moving on to um uh article four, discussion of precinct meeting attendance as requested by the city council community relations subcommittee. based on discussion potentially create a recommendation to
the full school committee at the November 12th meeting. I put this on because I thought we could make a recommendation. I didn't get to give my report last month and I didn't have the heart to do it because we were like hour five and I was like it's fine. So, um I
I'll give a report in November and explain that we had no audio at the last meeting. Um, but I'd love to have a recommendation should we choose to >> about this because we did attend that
meeting and heard them speak about it. >> Yeah. >> Um, and they would like to have school committee members present at the precinct meeting, maybe even the one that goes with the precinct that they're meeting at, although who knows how that will shake out,
>> right? Um, so let's discuss what do you what do you think about this? >> So I think you know in general my my stance is that more opportunities to meet the public where they're at are better because this is one case where I
actually do think more is more. Um, and so in general I'm in favor. I do have some questions because kind of kind of like how we've been doing um in the past couple of months with the sending a representative to the city council and we vote on sending a particular
representative and we charge them with like you can say this but you can't talk about this necessarily. >> It would make me wonder what our process is for picking someone to go and figuring out what it is that we are sort of allowing them to say.
Part of that also sort of requires us to understand a bit more of what is the city council going to be using these precinct meetings for. What kinds of issues do you think would come up? Um yeah, these are the sort of things this
is this is me being generally positive and like saying >> yeah, let's do some more meetings. Why not? But also wanting to just do it in a thoughtful way. What if we made a recommendation that was just really welcoming that says, you know, we
recommend to the full school committee that when these meetings come about, I think they'll be happening next year, right? Because it's even years that they have them or are going to happen, that we make ourselves available to the city council for invitation to these
meetings and then we just kind of leave it so that they know that we're for it. Mhm. >> And obviously the we're for it but the you know the full committee can vote on whether they're for it and then when it comes up then we can tackle
that part because we're not really there yet. I mean I I agree with you but we're not >> I have no idea when they when they're going to happen. I just know that >> that's a great opportunity for collaboration. So uh okay. Okay. So, I'm just going to
say like uh we recommend that when precinct me meetings are scheduled, my brain and mouth they're not working well today. I'm sorry. When precinct meetings are scheduled, we make ourselves available
to join collaboratively with the city council and attend as needed. Just like leave it. Does that sound good to you? >> Let me read it back to me. >> Okay. Okay. It's not great. So, we're
maybe have workshop. Uh we recommend that when precinct meetings are scheduled, we make ourselves available to join collaboratively with the city council and attend as needed. Wordsmith. It maybe >> can we say city council precinct
meetings? >> That one's Yes. When city council precinct meetings are scheduled for 2026, we make ourselves available to
to join and attend as needed. How about that? >> Sure. >> Okay. All right. So, that's on the radar. >> Any other discussion about that?
Um, has there been any more discussion about those that you can tell from that story? >> No, but um, if I'm here next year, I'll send an email, >> find out. >> Very good.
>> Open the door if I can. >> All right. >> Great. Moving on to uh article five, discussion of extended public comment in the form of potentially scheduling listening sessions with the community engagement subcommittee for the public
to bring forward ideas and potentially to make a recommendation of the full commit full school committee for this. >> Can you remind me of what kinds of ideas we were looking for? >> Well, you had suggested this at the last meeting or maybe the meeting before. >> I would have suggested
>> Yeah. um about maybe having a meeting somewhere else and having a long listening session potentially at the library or uh Oak Cords, Greenfield Garden, someplace where more public
could come where it it's not such a timed public comment session where we could just be there to listen. >> Yeah. >> Specifically for community engagement, not for the larger school committee work.
Um, I am for your idea. I think that's great. We did them for redistricting. And I don't know is they helped or hurt, but they were being in community. >> How well attended were those? And what
were some of the more successful outreach strategies? The Greenfield Gardens was not attended well. Um, Oak Courts was not attended well. None of the listening sessions I've done at either of those places, and I've done quite a few, have been attended well.
>> The ones at central office were attended well. >> Okay. >> And the ones at the um Oh, where did we have it? Um, we had it in the cafeteria, I believe, Federal Street. >> That was attended. Well,
so I think there's there's other places we could do the library or something. We could make it a a springtime thing or >> Yeah. Um happy to keep the keep this sort of like
as a back burner agenda item. I am supportive of my own agenda item obviously, but I think that I would like for us to do some more thinking about like a focus to the forums. Is there a guided question? Is there a >> specific topic? I know you said community engagement, but like is there
something particular that we're looking to get their input on? >> We could set an agenda for it, >> you know, about like we're interested in hearing about community engagement on these three topics. We could even say that like springtime we want to hear
about this and this and that. And then we could be like summertime we want to hear about this and this and that. Like it we could rotate topics and have like seasonal listening sessions, you know. >> Yeah, I like that idea.
>> We could even say that like is your topic not being brought up right now? Like send us a message and we could feature it at the next one so people don't feel like this is their only chance. >> Yeah. >> Or feel at all disenfranchised.
>> Yeah. I might say that we spend some time in future meetings thinking about what potential topics would be um and get like a stockpile list of potential meeting agendas, meeting agenda items or these listing forum
agenda items together. I think one of one of the things that comes to mind is our community has gotten mired. I think it's been three times in the last six years in
conversations about school safety specifically and um >> has three times at this point like voted down in SRO, but that conversation continues to come back and I think that there are some legitimate questions as to what school safety means it looks
like. And so that might be as a for instance something I would love to just hear people's perspectives on >> respectfully. Um, yeah. And I'm like, what does safety mean to you? What does that look like when you when you feel safe? What does
that what is happening around you that makes you feel that way? >> That kind of stuff. Um, cool. Yeah. I don't know if we need >> Yeah, maybe we create >> maybe a recommendation isn't needed at
this moment. Maybe we just need to like stew this one a little bit more and come back to it after the new year. >> Yeah. And I like the idea of holding something in the spring. I'd love a topic to be like um graduation preparedness because we hear about that a lot at the Yellow
>> conference like so I'd love to hear more from the high school students because we hear a lot from elementary families >> who are just kind of working it out but we don't hear a lot from you know 10th and 11th graders but they say to us we need AP courses or we we'd love to have
more of this or that or the other would be a way inform our goals. >> Absolutely. >> We could frame it that way, especially if we do it before budget really gets going. I mean, budget is already going to get go, but you know, like >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. But, you know, if we had it an early enough spring, like March 1st. >> Yeah. It's going to be It has to be after February. >> Early spring. Yes. >> End of February. This >> after February before April. Pick a
date. anywhere in there. >> Mhm. >> Okay. All right. So, we'll we'll chew on that for a little bit longer. >> Okay. Great. >> Cool. >> Um All right. Moving on to number six. Uh new business. Do we have anybody who's
come in? Is there anybody else who's participating? Okay. >> So, I brought this up because uh Sarah Ahern sent us a message. Um, so we're going to discuss free public health and safety nlloxxone training for Greenfield
High School students and staff and potentially create a recommendation to the full school committee November. And I have her email so like I know what she's telling us about it. Maybe I can share that because she did say that she would try to be here and she did say that she'd be available to do a
presentation if we were interested. >> I would be interested. >> Okay. So, let me just get pull up her emails because she did give me like parameters about it. All right.
Have you heard anything about this? You talk to anyone about it? Okay. >> All right. So, she says, "Um, I wanted to revisit this opportunity since DPH changed some regulations around school
nurses being able to appoint staff to administer Nlloxxone in an opioid emergency. Please find attached to new regulations and the website which has more resources. This is a free service that I offer as an EMT and trainer in opioid rescue to train high school students and staff in opioid overdose
rescue." Okay. So, she has the training to give the training to high school students and it's a free service. So, I guess my thought was if you had had experience with this, if you've seen it in other
high schools and what you think about this, is this something that Greenfield would benefit from? >> Yeah. No, I have not seen it in other high schools. I think that any of these trainings, while they're good, you need to hear from, I think, the public and your parents as well
>> in your community because some might say, "Hey, this is a great opportunity. It's great. Um, you could save a life, that type of scenario." >> Uh, the con side that I've heard from parents is, "Oh, I don't want my child doing that." Why would they be get around people who are doing that or in
that situation? And >> I don't want them exposed to that that type of scenario. So, while intentions are probably well-being and good, >> it may not be 100% where everybody's raising their hand saying, "I'm in for this."
>> That's a really good point. >> It makes me wonder if this could also be paired with just general education and awareness. I think it's the communities that care coalition from the FCOG that does a byanual student health survey.
And I think they might ask about different drug use or other >> use of substances of any kind. And so just even educating ourselves about how how what is the scope and scale of this issue in our community and is this the
kind of thing that would make us feel safer, more prepared? Do we think this is a good thing for our kids? But I I definitely hear you about wanting to hear from the caregivers if they're going to be some sort of finish of an initiative like this.
>> Sounds like it goes with our um springtime listening session that it could be part of the safety topic. >> Yeah, >> maybe >> would tie in probably >> tie in. >> Yeah, >> we could hear from people.
>> Yeah. And I think you know in general I'm for it because I think what personal experience but also just watching and witnessing is that there is no those kinds of people you know these kinds of addictions and issues.
>> Yeah. And I wasn't trying to be disparaging in that sense but I was carrying forward a message from what you said have I heard from people and people have expressed that >> totally. Yeah. And I was Yeah. Not not meaning to ascribe that to you or say that that's what you're saying, but
>> in thinking about how I might counter that, >> right? Yes. >> That it really is, you know, it's it's something that I think has affected a lot of families in this area. >> It's just a good skill to good skill to have. as a as a Girl Scout leader, I
have to do a lot of CPR training and sometimes the lock zone is involved in that training. And so I really feel strongly that anytime you can have any first aid or emergency training for situations that happen in
the real world, it's really worth it >> because the chances of survival if like any one of us had a had like a cardiac episode alone is like 8%. >> But it goes up exponentially if you have
somebody near you who has any knowledge at all. So, they don't really have to be uh first aers or CPR certified, but if they had a little bit of knowledge about these kinds of things, they could help people in any medical emergency. And the
lockom just sort of goes with it because you may not know what people are experiencing, you know, but at least you'd have some basic steps and sometimes that basic step is just calling 911, >> right? >> Instead of screaming. So, I sort of feel like if if we could somehow even tie it
into like first aid and CPR, like I think that's a worthwhile thing to offer in high schools because especially if some of our students are thinking of going into like early childhood education or the
nursing program at GCC or thinking about law enforcement or firefighter work. any of that is all going to they're going to have to have knowledge of that. They're going to have to take those classes and you know getting comfortable with a
body in distress is really good. But I think it does tie into our either what do parents think listening session or do we have a community partnership with a group that's interested in doing that creating that. I'll I'll look into it from the
superintendent's point of view across the state and I'll also ask our health teachers here. >> Okay, that would be great. It' be nice to know just if it even fits in. >> Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Okay. Old business. I had no old business.
>> I can't think of old any old business. >> We just churn through business. Yep. >> Just get it done. >> Perfect. >> Okay. Um >> motion to adjourn. So move second all over the place. Um before we adjourn, is there anything
else? Is there any new business to be added for future? >> Um no new business, but I will just take a moment of recording to talk about the focus groups that are going to be happening for the superintendent search if you don't mind me hijacking this
item. >> Wonderful. >> Um >> it is community engagement. >> Yes. Next week, for those of you who are listening to this video afterwards, November 3rd and November 5th, we will be having various focus groups for um constituents related to the
superintendent search. So, we have some for faculty and staff and some for students, but for you all, we've got a special focus group that's specifically for parents on Monday, November 3rd from 6:00 to 7:30 here in the GHS library. Um
and then on nove Wednesday, November 5th, we have a general community one. Of course, parents are welcome. Um but this is also for folks who um either don't have children in the schools or for who for whatever reason might not feel like this is something that concerns them. I want to assure you that that the state
of education in any community is the business of every member of that community. So you are welcome to come give your thoughts, share what kind of a leader you're looking for. and that one will be Wednesday, November 5th, again, 6:00 to 7:30 here in the ghs library. For both of those, there will also be
hybrid options. Um, I believe that there is a bitly link to a uh Zoom. So, if you can't make it in person, that's okay. Um, there is an option participate online. If neither of those works for you, there is also a link to a survey
that is going out and around. Um, if you haven't yet gotten it through some form of email, please feel free to reach out to me, Stacy Ston, uh, via the school committee and I will make sure that you get a link to that. Um, you can also come and give your feelings and thoughts
at public comment at any of our meetings from the school committee uh, related to the superintendent search. And then um, we are also looking for folks who might be interested in participating in the screening committee. these this um committee will be looking at applicant
files. It is I will admit a a hefty workload. But if you are at all interested and you have availability the first three weeks of December um let me know or find the interest form and we can you know we'd love to hear from you if that is something that you would
like. Thank you for letting me hijack the last three minutes of this meeting. >> Thank you for being so thorough. really appreciate your work on the steering subcommittee. It's wonderful. >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh motion to adjurnn.
>> Second. Discussion. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I see two hands. Okay. >> Ajourned the final meeting of 2025 at 6:30 p.m.
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