Workshop Monday March 24th would you please uh stand for a short word of prayer and then uh join me in the pledge dear heavenly father we thank you for your mercy your grace father we just thank you for each and everyone that's here today Father we just continue to pray and uh ask that you continue Lord
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indivisible andice all right good morning and welcome to the uh the workshop uh we are here to discuss Large Scale map Amendment and uh County initiated our future land use uh map
um uh Mr Hammond who's who's uh Mr G drive this train or we're here to answer questions take public comment but yes first of all thank y'all Commissioners for indulging on this um on this land use change had some
questions from some of my constituents um about it and uh being such such a large scale 3300 I think this is the largest we've done in a while correct me if I'm wrong on that I mean it's pretty big one and that was up for housing right
okay so and just wanted to uh to touch base because I after living through this weekend that past two weeks of tourism season I think this is probably going to be a good thing for us um if was um
brought about we start talking about jobs and and having a diverse economy and you cannot we do not want to be a a county in my opinion just depends Solly on tourism it's a
it's a it's a death threat for our County and um so that led to when we first had our Workshop back in in we hitka earlier we were talking about the airport which we were not talking about that today but we were talking about it and we said you know we want jobs for
generations to come and and you really cannot depend on tourism I think what you have here was was a was an offsuit of that and uh the things that I have that I'd like to talk about would POS possibly
be why don't we name it give it a name the Gul let's think about it Gul County industrial corridor where we got industrial land the Industrial Road actually Runs Through It uh just get some thoughts on that because it is a large place that we're
going to commit because if you look at some of the maps that Doug has produced for us we don't have any place to bring a business per se in the county already do we on the M we've got a little bit up there above puor Kim Hunter's place
that's not that's no dump and it's it's small then we have a little place at the millsite we're just looking at there's so few little areas to do and if we strategically put businesses in this one Corridor it it does make sense and so I
wanted everybody to understand that we have vetted this uh what comes there we have no idea I mean that's that's to be determined I guess um but that was that was a reason I wanted to you know take some more time talk to some people uh look at some
history of what was done and I I think that that's Doug I'm let you talk a little bit about it too when we do this it's basically coming out of agricultural into industrial and and Industrial means that it cannot be developed unless it's an industry that
our board has to approve anything over 5,000 square foot correct so basically what what type businesses are we looking at Um this can be anything uh basically the the moving of Goods Manufacturing of goods uh any of that stuff uh it's you
know people hear the word industry they automatically think Smoke Stacks that's yes that's part of it but that's not all that it could be it can be anything with the distribution manufacturing or moving of goods um can go into these areas uh currently to get a development order
anything that's over 5,000 square feet has to go uh basically to a Tac meeting which then ultimately usually uh ends up anything in this area would definitely end up before the board for the the pdrb and the board for approval um at which time you know we can set uh different
parameters uh setbacks just depending on what the business is and what their needs are um I mean we we can kind of do that the the same way we do subdivisions and everything else I mean we can just uh use the current ldr that we have or
we can uh just a uh an example of one of those things is just like when the Dollar Generals have gone into place um one of the things they if you notice they always access the Dollar Generals from the side roads the county roads not the main state roads that they're sitting on um and so one of the things
that we pull out of the TAC and the other meetings are is those roads aren't designed to have deliveries once a week or twice a week or whatever the dollar stores get so you know we rode in to their development order that they are responsible for the maintenance of the first 250 ft of those roads and so different parameters like that it can be
different depending on what the business is so doing the land use change we're not we don't have any businesses we don't have any industry coming in at this current time uh it's just it doing a land use change is the way the county gets ahead of its growth uh to just stop stuff from popping up everywhere we're
saying that you know we're hoping that industry does come to the county at some point in the future and you know we would like to this to be the area uh that we would have industry so it's not scattered you know throughout the whole County or you know we get people coming in wanting to do a a land use change in
the middle of uh Howard's Creek or somewhere like that you know because they want to put some industry there we're just trying to to localize it into a small area so and currently I mean if you look at where we are on industry that's basically where most of ours is
centered on the south end of that so we're just talking about going up there it is surrounded by two waterways okay so there I know there's been some concern about that uh I fish those regularly I I think it's a gorgeous place as soon as you pass R Fields before you get to the nepton plant
that's some of the gorge that's a gorgeous little area there then when you get up there those ones very good fishing a lot of people use that area so in our ldr how can we make sure that those areas are protected um I mean currently they're
already protected with a 50-ft wetland setback uh because it's south of the inter Coastal Waterway um so that's automatic in there that would be for residential or anything else um also in the ldr depending on what type of Industry it is whether it's high intensity or low intensity um there's
also different setbacks already built bu into the ldr up to like 150 ft I think okay so if let's say if we're going down the road and we want to name this the Gul County whatever we come up with a name g county industrial Corridor those that that ldr is going to
protect those waterways those two that's the ones that we're worried about the the can and the and Inter Coastal okay through our ldr okay any just what I wanted to make sure we got out of out of this is the fact that we we're protecting those waterways
we're going to give it a name kind of because I think that's important if we're going forward with I Jim's not here but if he's trying to bring businesses in we want to take them to our industrial Corridor and look at it if you'll look at the map most of that's Wetlands so a lot of its Wetlands correct I mean it could be mitigated
Wetlands well it's it's hard to tell without um someone looking at it I mean all the only thing we have for reference is the national Wetlands inventory which is proven to be grossly inaccurate um it's it's just not I mean you you look at a lot of places where our houses are it
says that it's Wetlands also but um we've had several subdivisions that you know the area behind the subdivision is supposed to be dry and the subdivision is supposed to be wet and when you have it mediated you find out that it's total opposite of that so it's just it's hard to tell but yes before anything could go
in there it would have to have a wetland study and those would have to be uh addressed through D okay and the reason I'm saying that just like my grandfather was worked for the WPA days when they built 386 and he swore that that's what kept St Joe from leaving the county was
the fact that it's so wet in there when you take those pine trees out in that area it turns wet Jack you know we talked about this before it uh it it turns real wet so whoever it is is going to go in their business is going to have to deal with some of that storm water and we have that covered in our ldr
correct that's correct okay that all um my only question is uh in reference to protecting the waterways uh let me ask uh can those setbacks if they are 50 or if they're 150 could the county adjust
them at any time whenever the industry comes in sure I mean all it takes is three of you guys and we can change anything so if we want to move it from 50 to 100 we can do it if we want to move from 150 to 250 we can do that also right and you can also adjust these if
you don't want to do anything like just like a uh as an ldr change you can also address it when you do the development orders for the different uh businesses that come in I mean that's where you get into because there may be one business that it's okay to be within 50 ft you maybe another one that you want to be
600 feet away um and that would just be things that I think could be addressed as the development orders came came in to put something there okay thanks sir I'm good to two Mr chairman um if if I can um the storm water rules are change
in December 28th 2025 so there's going to they're going to make um all developments take care of total nitrogen and total phosphates um so that's going to really increase the size of of what you what your ponds actually what we're
seeing today from what is probably about a 40% increase and somewhere 20 to 40% depending on on the actual development but it's going to be significant so that's something else to think about too that we you know that's going to be there's basically you have to have a
permit before December 28th for that to happen so pretty much after July if nothing comes up they're going to be required to do those additional requirements as well Jack is that state or federal state so when we say that do y'all like that in G industrial Corridor anybody
got anything else they'd like to call it or or any other ideas on that I just think it would be good to know it's a large that's a chunk of land I mean for our our County and uh I think it's it's not a bad thing I think it's a good thing because as we invite other
businesses to come tour us you know that that they want to come um that we have a name I don't know Z I mean legally does it have to have a name or if we name it is there any repercussions uh no and no there's
nothing to keep you from naming it what you can it's um it's uh what's the word I'm looking for it's just symbolism and then there's nothing to keep you from changing it there's nothing to keep you restricting from using it so you certainly can um like I said you can name streets you can
name this area obviously it's private land but certainly can name that Corridor as the commissioner suggesting you good yes sir all right any other commissioner all right uh staff y'all got anything that Mr Doug got anything else
all right open to the public open up to the public if anyone in the public would like to come before the board just make sure come up state your name address for the record please and um you come on up good uh good morning Robert bran resident of Port St Joe Guff County
resident lifelong uh first question this uh notice today public notice if I'm not wrong it was advertised it showed all the partials several days ago but now don't show the partials am I correct about
that uh who who's y'all's it man did y'all take the partial numbers off so we're still talking about 3200 Acres Mr chairman you can title it whatever you want there's nothing legally required to do that so deficien we still talking about 3200 Acres yes
why why was it took off why would the partial took off took off off off the public notice off of this exactly okay and I'll move on I've already I've already covered that uh so if y'all GNA change
your name there's been a lot of misinformation I've spoke on this no I had spoke on this yet but uh and going back to when all this started it's all to do with the airport that's what y'all said couple meetings ago correct all to do with the airport airport
infrastructure so and actually if I was going to name it I would name it the Kenny's millroad the other information yall spread about the name change that's always been the Kenny's m road so let's I'd recommend let's name to go back to that name and
to cover one more thing all this tied to the airport correct we're not talking about airport we're talking about well it's 3,200 Acres you got to have a lot of land for airport infrastructure y'all y'all actually said this two meetings ago that it was tied to the airport so
I'm I just want to clear that up and one more thing before I leave the podium Mr Hammond you uh this is your words you said there were no houses within a mile of the proposed site and the closest houses would be White City addressing
some of the voice concerns have you talked to all the neighbors that White City about the planes coming and going over their houses waking them up on weekends hours of night you're confusing two different issues no I don't think I am that that that quote was about the airport we're not talking about the
airport we're talking about the land use change the airport doesn't need a land use change this is an industrial Corridor if they choose to name it that so what my discussion was was about the airport but we're not talking about the airport today y two meetings ago I actually I
wasn't really able to find that again but I will I'll correct you on that later actually two meetings ago this same board said it was all to do with the airport and if I'm not wrong y'all have hidden these partials now because what y'all doing y'all misleading the
public once again Robert no no no this is my three minutes so let me talk my three minutes and I've still got 12 seconds left now oh and you can reone some you can Zone you can Zone 3,200 acres and you can reone it down the road so yall not fooling anybody on your your
tactics on resoning for your free money on the infrastructure I appreciate your time all right okay so so so back hold hold let me say one thing and correct me if I'm wrong I'm looking at this agenda and we got public hearings on
here ordinance land use map amendment is this not the paral numbers that they are so so two Mr chairman two separate things okay the the public hearings that this is tomorrow's agenda that has all the parcel numbers on this is a public hearing and this is what's required
every one of them the the commissioner commissioner pridon asked for a workshop for the public to have more input on this that Workshop does not have those requirements to do it but I mean everybody knows what we're talking about so I don't know why we're this you know it's it's the workshop about the land
use change again the county doesn't have zoning so that's incorrect but it's pretty clear that yes this is a workshop and then tomorrow you can see it I don't know if you can see it here got them all lined up for for a public hearing that is legally required the first of
several the maps I asked Mr Crane to put those Maps back there the maps that we have on the gis are tough to put on cuz I asked him we were going to do a PowerPoint but I I think we couldn't get there right yeah it was just unclear and hard to read when you the maps if we get
off our GIS will not fit on a p our PowerPoint so I just said we'll put them up everybody can see there are in the back back there so anybody wants to look at the map that's what this this is there's no vote today this is public information day and that's why we're doing this because we did have some
people asking for that M Mr Branch you can't you can can't talk from back there Mr Branch this what this what upsets me Mr Branch this was upsets me because you come you come up here you you share this false information when we when we as a board when we as Mr Branch
when we as a board agreed to have this workshop and we discuss everything that the partial numers everything Branch I'm not I'm talking to the public I'm not talking to you I'm not spreading I'm I'm not talking Mr Branch word appreciate that be know that that's that's that's your that's the issue you don't like to
listen no you don't know how to listen yeah you don't like to listen that's your problem you don't know how to list you all you always right that's your problem yeah you always right that's your problem that's pretty low Robert for you to saying that that's all right that's that's that's fine that just
shows me who you are that's all that does that just shows me who you are but but for but for talk to the Commissioners we discussed this at our last board mean in reference to what we was going to talk about in the public Workshop so for him to come up here and share like we trying to hide
something we had the public Workshop because it requested that we we have a public Workshop so everybody can come bring their questions we're not trying to hide anything we were trying to hide anything we would have never did the public Workshop we would never put these parsing numbers on the agenda that we're
going to discuss you on tomorrow you hide it every day can I say something yes sir Robert look they everybody's trying to be civilized in here but you're not being that way Robert now if you can't sit back there and keep quiet we're going to ask the sheriff I don't
know if we can do that but can we ask make him leave PL and simple Robert listen I've never been given three minutes to speak and I'm being civilized any you just had your three minutes Mr Branch all right app Mr Branch you don't
had your time we gonna move on to the next person time all anybody else want to come for yes ma'am come on now morning gentlemen morning kind of hate following that I'm Deborah Mays I'm speaking for the Gulf County Citizens coalitions I get five
minutes um first of all I do want to thank you gentlemen for having this public meeting we we did need it there is a lot of confusion out there um I have question for uh Mr Doug here on the
high intensity uh industry you were talking about that goes to 150 foot buffer zone what kind of industry is that I would have I don't have the ldr in front of me but I could look that up and get that information to you it's anything that would be um you know that
would could potentially have uh contaminants for you know to to the waterways or anything like that but U okay thank you and like I say just a standard uh that's written in the ldr that would be up to as we went into our meetings uh Tac meetings and also the
Planning Development review board we would see that's where we would determine if it classifies into that category or not or if we needed to extend it even further than that so so the 50 150 was written originally by the BC yes or approved in the ldr originally back in
'92 and you can make ldr changes and development changes whenever that's correct Okay so so all of you gentlemen uh did get a letter from the Gulf County Citizens Coalition on Friday I believe did you all receive it yes okay so in
that letter we asked for a 250 fot buffer zone because these lands are I mean they go right down to the Bay um and we also asked for two ldrs one that uh just simply prevents any dredging
through that buffer zone into the indust indal land so that you can't have an industrial land then using the Waterway to go down to the port um and we also ask that no pipelines be routed down to the
port um the reason we're asking for that now instead of doing it industry by industry by industry is because you can you can make this choice of a balanced approach right now you can have your industrial lands we don't oppose that I
know you think we do because we're the Gul County Citizens Coalition but we do not oppose industry and and uh manufacturing we understand the need for it in this County but we do want it to be balanced we want to protect the
environment we do have a tourist industry that we can't sacrifice for these um lands and all we are asking you gentlemen is tomorrow when the first reading happens instead of it happening
you simply say we're going to kind of rewrite this ordinance a little bit to include a buffer zone and include no dredging to the gulf canal and no pipelines down to the port if you don't want to do that then what is your vision
of these lands are you connecting them to the port in any way I'm asking that uh the dredging Deborah I don't know that you can dredge that Canal can you it's it's a man-made
Canal you can drudge to but I mean who who just talk St Joe company owns that Canal correct who owns a canal core of engineer owns it yes sir okay so the core engineer why are they going to no I'm I'm just talking about industrial
stick a piece of Industry right next to the Waterway why would you do that unless you're going to use that Waterway to go down to the port so to protect that from ever happening ever happening unless you guys vote to let it happen to protect it
from ever happening we'd like to just have no dredging across the buffer zone we'd like a little bit longer little bit wider buffer zone that be rather than having to figure is this a 50ft industry 150 foot
industry just say 250 foot 200 foot you know buffer zone something that's going to protect you were just fishing down there you say something that's going to protect that water Waterway and something that can't be dredged across put it in the ldr right now you can't dredge across this and use
that Gulf industrial Canal to go down to the port because what we are afraid of actually is a commercial Port opening Port St Joe a lot of citizens a lot of citizens do not want a commercial port a cargo port a dredge you know dredge
Channel Through the bay and we are afraid that these industrial lands are the beginning of that and we want to just like I said we're not against industry we're not against manufacturing we're against using those lands as
a magnet uh to draw industries that will need to use the port as a commercial Port let me ask this and just just to go what she saying and I long as I can remember that Canal has
always been dredged or was for years and years um no I'm not talking dredging the canal I'm talking dredging from the an industry put on these new lands new industrial lands to the canal and and
Doug said that we could do an ldr that prohibited that you're talking about an inent deor not not she's talking about connection con I don't yeah okay I know what you're talking about yeah yeah I'm not you know yeah I'm not for that I'm just saying I don't want to see Doug
said you can rate that I don't want to see any stipulations on the the canal itself because you presently you have I know in the past they've had to dredge in front of R Field it in you've got an aggregate plant that's on the canal now that they bring in barges now right yeah
I'm yeah the can saying I don't I don't ever want to see where you can't you couldn't you know the access to the canal itself but but you're saying cutting cutting into that land yeah I can understand okay I'm sorry I yeah didn't didn't clarify that and Doug said that we could put that into you can put
anything you want into an ldr so you can put that into an ldr make the public feel better if nothing else and then someday if you have an industry that absolutely needs to go there and it's not going to create a commercial Port you can change it Doug just said you know you can do a developmental change
anytime you want what I was thinking about is if like we were fortunate enough to get like a a Yamaha people that did Yamaha Motors and they were because of where that's located and you want to have a little test site we wouldn't want to you know take them out of the out of the loop and that's what say that would they would
require an in but we would have to vote on that well that would that's that's a great point and also if you if you ever had a repair facility on that Canal where they would pull say boats up on waves you you would have to have a anlet you know that type deal you're not talking about big boats going up in
there that you can't get up in there you know the WD of that there I mean no we're just talking about un added protection a little bit above her Zone can't go in there unless you guys vote to let them dredge little channels in
there and um we got you no pipelines down to the port and I I'm hoping that one of you and one of you will bring it up tomorrow and one of you will second it tomorrow that that you want to rewrite the ordinance
because we know the ordinance already been written uh cuz you guys wouldn't give us the 30 days to you know talk to you guys about this um so it's already been written so now you're going to have to vote to Let's rewrite this ordinance to include a couple of protections and
you will make a lot of Gulf County citizens happy Mr chairman on on that as far as a couple things as far as that on the ordinance the ordinance would absolutely not be the place for any of Mrs May's ask uh this is this is a comprehensive plan amendment that gets sent to the
state to change the comprehensive plan putting buffers in and putting no pipelines in and things like that that is not the place for that is in the ldr it's not in the comprehensive plan so the ordinance is strictly an ordinance changing your comprehensive plan uh it's
what it's doing it's actually changing the future land use map of your comprehensive plan um now as far as you got to be careful with um when you put thing changes in the ldr that kind of locks you up I mean obviously like you
said if you had a Yamaha engine repair shop that wanted to come in there they're going to want access to the water but now we can't allow them to do it we would have to send them through the variance process and you know variances are something that's supposed to be it's it shouldn't be a common thing that we do it's people who have a
hardship because then they have to proove a hardship in order for the board to vote on it the problem is is any industry that comes in that wants access to that Canal you will have to vote on it the way the rules stand today um because you will have to approve the development order the development order will show it's it's just like parking
for a restaurant you know one thing we look at is that they have the parking you know if they're going to have an inlet to the canal that will be on the development order that will be something that will have to be approved by this board but you know if if you had a seafood market come in there and you tell them that you can't be on the water
I mean that kind of defeats the whole purpose I mean you know it's just like Raff Fields if they didn't have access to the water or Woods didn't have access to the water you know so now you're limiting all of those type Industries and businesses uh by putting the large buffers in and the no inlets but I mean
I think those things can be addressed on a case-by casee basis in the development order um I don't think it's it definitely has nothing to do with the ordinance for the land use change and but if you did want to make change the buffers or something uh doing an ldr amendment would be the way to do that
can that be done at the same time and and remember that the the push on wanting the industrial side is not towards the canal it's towards that Industrial Road that's why it's named that so we' hope there might be a business or two or like something like that we approved it would be a Yamaha
company or something like that that was doing it for just to put boats in there and test it that's that was that I don't see that happening a bunch anyway it would be good if it did but you're taking that bit that we going that we're get the right to vote on versus all this other land that we have that we really
want people to come in and and put right off 71 or right off the Industrial Road see what I mean that's that's where we that's where we want to drive the industry that's cuz it's close to Road no objection to that 95% of of your ask we have no objection to the all but along the
waterways and I I I we would be comfortable if you could do this ldr change at the same time that you do this industrial large scale M why we're trying to change this to Industrial then put extra restrictions and stipulations
on certain businesses I I just I just don't see it it it just does this is almost backwards in in my mind this is backwards of how we're trying to change this to Industrial to keep our kids that are growing up here and provide them a
job in the future and I I can't talk to y'all any other time ex here so I I'll tell you I'm I'm not for that at at at at all why is adding a couple of protections going to change what you guys want to do that's that's not what
we're here today to even talk here to talk about the land use yeah and the land use change and I think we address it Case by case basic it's a s that's exactly right Mr chairman it's a s by site Case by casee basis and if Yamaha does come in obviously they're going to
they're going to require a access point to the Gul County Canal or the inter Coastal Waterway and if we put restrictions on that they're going to come here and say oh we we're just not coming here now but you can undo the
restriction we can also do it on the flip side we can also do it on certain businesses that do come in here that's asking the citizens to trust this board in perpetuity this is a
change that will affect Gul County for generations and and and you're you can make this protection as you make this change and protect Gul
County I and still have the jobs got I I just think I think the long run it it'd be better on a Case by case basis I just don't you I mean the the tools are there to to handle that what
you're talking about anyway and and like Doug said I think what' you say 150 foot buffer on high intensity anyway I believe that's correct yes so so the the mechanism's there to handle it on a Case by case basis and like Jack said if you put stipulations in I I think you do
deter any industry or companies want to to to come in but we just heard that the industry and the companies you want to come in are supposed to be along Highway 71 not along the waterways anyway I mean it we're just kind of in this circular
argument well that's your time is made we see if somebody else want to call thank you gentlemen thank you appreciate it yes ma'am anyone else coming for the board yes sir come on John Airman 385 Blue Heron Drive um I don't have anything prepared
but I'm just kind of speaking from my heart yes uh I I am requesting that you look at the the buffer and you know even that 250 ft you know we're there's a always a possibility that we we get a
well even before we get a storm but you know during the construction of that particular any particular industry there's a lot of um land disturbance buffer would you know kind
of take care of you know any kind of siltation I know you know they're required to put Sil fences but those things just kind of wash away after a good storm the other thing is you know if we have industry there uh and there's you know a
hurricane um you know that those Industries could be you know demolished and then all that debris you know if we had a buffer if we you know we were able to put that and it doesn't have to be 50
feet is nothing you know it'll just wash into the you know into the canals and the and the inter coals so you know if we had that buffer we're not talking about a lot of land to me it's almost like an insurance policy you hope you
never use it but it's there in case you need it I don't think it's going to restrict industry I mean there's a lot of land out there but just have it back from the waterway that Waterway is our
lifeblood why risk it yeah it might not happen you know for a hundred years but that's our future you know it could happen next year so let's do something proactively let's you know like I said
it's an insurance policy and you know if we have to change it like Deb said you know it can be changed to to accommodate particular Industries but at least we have that for the worst case
scenarios that's really all I have to say just please consider worst case scenario which you know did we think we're going to have a hurricane if you look back in the records a hurricane like
Michael very rare now it's becoming more frequent more powerful so we could have that that's all I have to say just please I'm pleading with you you know just have that insurance policy thank
you thank Mr before you go can I ask a question please just to just to clarify what you're asking to buffer so let's look at what's existing on the GU County industrial Canal right now you have a the Old Port site which is now Eastern that has an aggregate facility and a and
a bulkhead you have two Seafood plants in industrial in the county on the opposite side what what are you talking about buffering you talking about the building buffer you're talking about the U the the the Bally the buffer that you know the Gul County Citizens Coalition
is asking for just something on the side of you know of that industrial Corridor that could prevent some debris or just uh going into into the canal so so so
under under your scenario then rields couldn't exist Woods couldn't exist none of these businesses that that go the the necton ship I understand but but again the we have an industrial Canal something's going to be on the water it's going to be a ship tie up it's going to be aggregate it might be fuel
it might might be grain it might be whatever it might be a prop facility it might be yamaho like they said but it's all going to be tied there's going to have to be a head so so what are we actually buffering you you you're going to allow them to have a head wall I'm assuming uh if you're not then then then
we might as well fill it in and not have a canal at all because because you you know you got to have you know if you're going to have access to the water you got to have access to the water so so again what they're saying is Case by case if it's a if it's another rafield if rafield decided to sell in Highland
View and move up the canal why would we need a 250t buffer from a I mean we're taking fish and shrimp off the water so it would seem that it needs to be right up next to the deal so it's a case by case deal make that change if it's a nuclear power
plant God forbid then probably 250 wouldn't be a big enough buffer so I think a case by case is exactly what but it's it's going to be something boat related or barge related because again you're limited on the depth and you're limited on the width and all those kind of things but it's going to have some
tie to the to the water either the inra coastal Waterway or the Gulf I would think but but to understand you're not talking about tie ups and bulkheads and things of that nature you're talking about actual buildings right but again this Seafood building probably needs to
be closer than that but but but I do understand them yeah okay all right thank you m yes sir anyone else yes ma'am please Sarah Hodson St Joe Beach I have a
question for Doug um what's the set back from building in the ldr from that Waterway 50 ft so you already have that's correct a good not what the citizens Coalition is asking for but
there is a larger than normal setback yes so and I'm I don't know that my thoughts are in any way shape or form in any kind of order if we don't change this from
agricultural to Industrial and the airport goes away if we leave it the way it is somebody can come in without any kind of special permission build a home on two
and a half acres if I recall correctly for Agricultural and we have automatically now made that a residential without really making it residential so that's really what we're
here for right absolutely we're here to say we don't want that area to become a resident itial so if we don't do something and we leave it at Agriculture
and the airport goes away because it's not about the airport we lose anyway is that what I'm understanding yes correct thank you thank you and Miss Hudson follow up with
that you look at those Maps back there consider this the amount that we have left on Industrial in this County we have very that's why thought was important to show that we don't have where to put a business well if the city has their way and annexes without asking us we're going to lose
anyway I mean that's what we're talking about we're going to L we got the best law in town we got the best no pressure Mr Novak but the point the point is they're already trying gotcha right that's what triggered this exactly yeah
they're already trying to make that residential y so and I'll give you the T really quick if you talk about Inland canals that's what they're talking about right there they want they want to make an a marina an inland canal and the highest and best use if this was
residential whether it's a residential or straight residential either 800 units or 3,000 plus units is a Bayo well we'll we'll dig canals all through there and you can have your boat right behind your house that's what we're trying to prevent EXA I think what the board is
trying to prevent ABS absolutely and they'll jump if they if if for some some reason they happened to win that guess what then they got it all the way up they can go because it's and it's six units an acre not two right so that's what we're talking about
here thank you yes ma'am thank you all right yes sir come on up good morning David Smith 375 cely Drive um first I I would like personally to thank of all all of you for what you do it's a
terribly hard job I understand and thank you for what you do this piece of property that we're looking to change from agricultural to Industrial if I'm understanding the
purpose of this it is to encourage industry to come in to Gulf County and my question is is there any industry that has expressed to
y'all their intentions to locate in Gul County in this industrial area do you have anything in writing that's that's going to guarantee y all and us that this property being set
aside is going to be used by some industry can I speak a little bit of a history I mean if you look since a storm on Industrial Road if you go down the South Side all the way through the industrial park right after the storm
and all it was there was nobody down there and so that aggregate plant was not there that if you go up Industrial Road where the what it trade trade winds and those areas in there those have all started moving there uh kilgor moved off 8 moved up there there's been several
businesses have moved up there I think Mr Newman is wanting to do something up there with a concrete plant which is phenomenal those are jobs a concrete plant puts out a lot of jobs and we know that and we if there is a storm we don't have to wait for Panama City or Tallahasse for SRM to come for a
concrete that's great guess where he's locating it on Industrial Road so as you see that as we grow we're hoping to grow that up that Corridor that's why it's called industrial and that's what it's going to our industrial Corridor out
there okay but I'm I'm taking from your answer commissioner prison that there is not at this point a commitment from some industry to go into that area it's it's
what what I'm getting at is Hope is not a plan and and to to take this parcel of land and change it when there is is no necessarily a need for it right now to
change it from agricultural to Industrial is a hope to bring in Industry not a plan and and I'm I'm gathering from the response I've gotten from y all that at this point there is
no firm commitment for anything to go in there and hope is not a plan my personal opinion one other thing I want to say before I leave Mr Hammond there was a comment that you
made that I objected to about the location of residential homes to the airport and we had this discussion a couple of meetings ago and where I live I can throw a baseball
to where this airport this land use change is going to go take place I'll agree with you on the land use because it's about uh 900 feet across the canal and if I could throw a base the airport the airport is more than a mile south of
that so you can't throw a baseball a mile and and 900 yards is the airport location cast in stone do you have writing in writing where that Airport's going to go you have you have planes
coming over at a very shallow out itude to make that Landing you have lights that are going to have to be we're not talking about airport yep yep and I you Mr ham might want to have that discussion another time thank
anyone else on the land use change all right staff anything you want to add anyone else in public the L yes sir come on Butch Klein 3607 Cape s blast I don't know anything about an airport I don't know a lot about the zoning and all that
but golf County opportunity Park thank you all right thanks sir all right that's a good one all right anyone else in the public else in the public staff Commissioners good good
good all right take this opportunity to thank everyone for coming out to the workshop we need a motion to ad Jour howain a motion to motion by commissioner MCC second second by commissioner husman any opposition motion pass Five and no