in the pledge. Dear heavenly father, once again, Lord, we just thank you for your mercy and grace. We thank you for each and everyone that's here today. Father, we just continue to pray pray your blessings, Lord God, be upon this nation, Father, be upon this this city, this county, Lord God. Father, we just thank you for, Lord God, just leading
and guiding us, Lord God, and just giving us, Lord God, the knowledge to make the correct decisions for your people. Father, we bless everyone in this room. We bless you. We give you praise, glory, and honor. In Christ's name we pray. Amen. Please join me in the pledgece to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Good afternoon. Welcome to the uh special meeting. We got a few items on the agenda. First item 2026
legislative priorities. Mr. Hammer, >> we're we're ready to hear your list and we can add to it if >> All right, commissioners, you want to go first?
>> Uh just a few things. Thank you. If you >> first of all, you have in front of you something on that uh Monolith prepared for us for the uh White City training facility and uh we've talked about that before. We last meeting we talked about we have the grant that the state fire
marshall is going to fund the equipment and this is the part where we have the I guess you call it uh Mr. Hammond the the previous fire station I got the history of it but it started with two stall then they added the third stall and then after the storm or right before the
storm they built the new fire station. So, it has basically been mothballled for several years and they've done a great job cleaning it out and uh so we uh we've had the um all the state fire marshals and the
people that build these buildings over to look at it. They were very very excited about it and uh and said you need to get this going uh because there's no real training facility between there's one in north north Panama City there's one over in Mariana at Chipola and there's one in
Tallahassee so for people in in Gulf Franklin and Calhoun and and and that we don't really have a place to train this locally that we can do this with. So, uh, I'd mentioned it last year when we had our legislative delegation said it's in the planning stages and it seemed
very favorably. So, this year we're a lot farther down and we're ready to start asking for the appropriation if y'all are y'all are good with that. Um, any any questions? >> I have no I have no issue with like I said, we we talked about it before and
um had a chance to go especially when we went to Tallahass. Um but um I I'm I'm I'm glad we're moving forward with it. >> Yeah. If if we can get this if we can get this facility uh it's not major. I mean we're way ahead of the game because we have a building with plumbing, sewer,
water, and the three-phase electric which most places that are starting this don't have that. Then we have a area in behind where we can add the ConX building for the multi-level training. So we're way ahead of the ball game. I mean, if we can get this done uh and meeting with uh uh Melissa with the
school district, you know, we're talking about putting this in Weiwa and and St. Joe for classes the following year. We can get this done. We can start getting kids enroll possibly the next year if we go for the grant that their their school grant on that one um to to get that going, but we can also be training our
our volunteers and and move forward with that. So, I I appreciate it if if if that's something y'all want to go with. I think it's a great idea, Commissioner, and I just want to make sure this is kind of the way I see this kind of beginning of our ability to lower our
ISA ratings. And if we can get this done, I think it'll start that process and we can take care of the others on as as they come up. But I think this is a very very good start. >> I'd like to just say thank you, Randy. That's you putting all the work into it and I think it's a good thing.
>> Absolutely. Appreciate it. >> Move forward. >> Okay. Absolutely. Uh the next thing we know we talked about the marine services training facility. It's it's a ways down the road. We know that. But it's we've got to start somewhere with maybe going and viewing what one looks like and
having the initial meetings with Tom P. Haney as far because they would be the person that would probably deliver most of the structures. Michael, we have a con. Didn't we have agreement with the port authority on that property that they would probably be willing to help us with? We we have a proposed agreement
that uh Tom has drafted that when Gary gets back uh from vacation when when they when they can bless it. Uh if they get it in time, I'll bring it to y'all Tuesday. So y'all allowed me to negotiate. I think we're >> pretty close. That had all the items
that we wanted included that. And if you know they want to participate, fine. If not, that would be their contribution to us for you know renegotiating the loan and giving them a little money. So, uh, I I think we're imminently close to to signing that. Yes, sir.
>> Well, so, so we're imminent closer to me bringing it back for you to bless. But, yes. >> And so, then if we have, if we have the land there, it it's it's a couple years getting it because I feel favorably that Triumph would, you know, their eyes lit up when you said marine service because there's not really a training academy
for those marine sciences around. But that doesn't mean it's just for Eastern ship building. Know that. could be for marine electronics, things like that, but it could also be that we're going to hopefully build it big enough where someone wants to come in and do a propulsion thing that they could we could have lab space for them to come
in. You know what I mean? So, it's like open space for them. And so, there's a lot of possibilities, but the first step, I guess, this fall is to get a group together and go look at what one looks like. Uh, you know, they'll have them around the Mobile area. They have a couple over there. And um
I know we have a couple of we have a couple of uh marine pilots from our county. I mean we all know them uh like Wayne Forehand and you know they're pilots and we know that the this is a growing going to be a growing thing. So I just think it's a it's a long range
plan but we've got to get started on it. So just thoughts any thoughts show may have on that. >> I think it's a great idea. You know >> I said from the beginning I think it's a great idea. But we need this. We need it. >> And just if we go ahead and throw it out to to the delegation this Thursday,
>> they'll know that we ever need anything on the back end of it, you know, because it's probably there's going to be matches that we're going to need that >> on that. So, I just thought we'd get it in front of them like we did like we did fire last year. So, >> any thoughts on that? Um, >> there's there's one in Mobile, right? >> I think there is.
>> When you come across the bridge, it's right there on the on the left right there by the USS Alabama. Yeah. >> Um maybe we can go look at that one at some point, different times, of course, maybe. Or I don't know if we could do a meeting or whatever, but maybe go there. There may be one in Pensacola, but I know there's one right there on on I 10 in Mobile.
>> Um >> and and see if we can look look into that. There's also um I think Florida State has a has a program where they're doing an innovations type program. So, um, I'm not trying to steal your thunder at all, Commissioner, but I could give
the contact to to Michael and Clay and let you contact him, but the guy actually lives in Gulf County that's running the program. So, >> Oh, that's awesome. >> So, that he might be able to help us with some of that. >> More the marrier. >> You know, the more people we more people we can get looking at it, the is there
something I mean, this is all it's all new to all of us, but this be something. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for that. >> Yes, sir. I'll help you with that for sure. Um, so ju and like I said for Thursday, it would just be let's get it on their radar thing. We're not really asking for
something, but you know, as it comes up, they know what we're talking about in like a couple years. Uh, the next thing is you all know, you've heard me talk about the Back Beach Road. It's on everybody's I going ahead and call it the Back Beach Road if it's all right with y'all because that the traffic out
there on on 98 in St. Joe Beach, Beacon Hill, coming through Windmark is it's is a point it's never been before. Uh they know they have the road counts, Clay. Don't they have the road counts already? And they're they're saying we should have it out right now from we all through St. Joe.
>> Yeah. So, um >> so that is something that that I think we need to let our legislative delegation know that it's it has become Jody, you can jump in here too on that. the ambulance service getting I mean we're transporting what percent right
now to I mean just ballpark it >> I would say the better part of our transports go to Panama >> right >> I don't know percentage but 75% >> yeah and mostly two usually two to three a day sometimes more
>> and if and if it's more yeah >> yeah I thought so too uh but anyway that being said lights and siren going through there with that much traffic even there's nowhere for them to go. I mean and it's it's it's become almost a safety issue.
>> The crews has expressed concern every day about the traffic on 98 going back and forth through from anywhere from Tindle back this way is a is an absolute nightmare for us. >> And so I guess Michael we talked about going up and meeting with the secretary and but I guess our delegation needs to
know about it too. They I know they do but >> so certainly to speak to the delegation because some juncture it's going to have to be in the five-year plan and they're gonna have to pay for it. But we do have a request in and I hope y'all can all go because we got a couple issues. One, we got a new secretary. So, it's always
good to to put a name on the face and let him meet all the commissioners. But the other is that we got a couple big issues and not the least of which is this. Okay. >> Okay. Uh the other ones are just things that I had had written down. Um
this is not going to be for the delegation, but let them know about it. We talked about the living shoreline in Highland View. We've had some positive traction uh with that, Erin. We uh I know we talked about that. We're going to talk more about that. That's coming up. Money's there. It's not there. It's already appropriated money, but that's
something that we're looking at. And um water, I know we're doing water, right? >> Correct. Water's on my list. >> Water's on the list. Okay. That's all I have. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. All right. >> What else? >> You said you got the water on the list. >> Yes, sir.
>> Okay. All right. with the sewer on those. >> So, we're probably going to ask for some reuse, but it's a lower priority because it's probably going to be year after next. But, >> but yes, if it's if it's available. >> I said I had utilities on here, so I'll
make sure to what we can do is water project slash reuse. >> And we've already got the money allocated for any of road. >> Yes. Now, again, that's DOT's paying a good portion. Yeah. >> And then we got hazard mitt and some and
some more, but that that's only uh about six and a half years behind where >> we want to be. >> Michael, are we going to talk about 10 million come? >> No, don't get upset. Don't get upset today. >> That's the uh that's that's the the the
brainchild of the of the water projects in my opinion. Yes sir. >> So really there's a couple different things. Uh so the the the 10 million kind of got swept to do the Cape project which we needed and it was more critical at the time than than the other but but
they owe us 10 and then we have some uh resilient grants that that kind of got sidetracked too. So, yeah, to finish our what I call the loop or the or the second phase or the 10th phase, whatever we're in that will wind
up taking us from White City all the way to the Cape, uh, we need that last stretch of funding. >> All right. Anything else? >> Yes, sir. I have a couple, Mr. Chairman. Um, number one, the airport. Michael, where are we at on the airport? How do we need to?
>> So, I had it on my list. Uh, so we got a price recently on the uh turn lanes and whatnot. So, I think we got enough to do the actual road in uh you know, we got a million dollar grant for that, but but we're short probably a couple million with the with the turn lanes and everything. So, I think we need to ask
for a couple million for if we're going to do it all. And I'm still fine with a phased approach of let's do the main entrance road because we won't need the turn lane until, you know, the airport's operational. But uh but yes, I have that on my list. >> And then um I'm not sure that I want to
add this yet. I still owe Aaron and Laura a meeting. Um so the old courthouse and we will we we've got to figure out what we want to do with that and see what we can start asking for there. Um like I said, I don't know that I want to add it to the list yet because I'm not sure. I'm dependent on these
ladies and they've done their part and I haven't done my part. So um so just I want make sure I brought that up today just in case. Um old courthouse in Weiwa just to see what we can figure out and we're trying to figure out the best route to go to get grant funding and
it's it's fairly complicated. So, um we're we're going to wade through some of these rules and see what we can actually do, but I would like to just bring that up today and let's put on the list just in case if if y'all don't mind.
So, so I'm just I'm just asking. So, no, no information from Don's office on the community project. >> No, sir. So, we actually they're actually we're kind of halfway waiting on them at this point. We have met with them. Um they are responding and helping. Um we just have to make a
decision. Okay. >> And um and on which route we want to go with this to try to maximize our funding possibilities. Gotcha. You still got the floor? >> That's all I have, Mr. Chair. >> Commission M. >> I don't have nothing.
>> You good? I'm good. >> All right. I don't I don't have anything. Only thing I want to talk about is the delegation meet and it went from 4 to 10. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> It's at 10:30. >> But it was originally at 4:00, right?
Well, we I think we had a you remember long time ago, maybe like in 2017, we had a commissioner that thought we had a ghost in our uh calendar invites. We we had a bogus calendar invite that said that it was
had been moved to 4:30 or something. So, uh we have confirmed it's at 10:30 and I can't explain. >> Okay. All right. But sometimes it happens. >> 30. >> Okay. >> It show just I may not be able to make
it. That's a pro. That's the only issue. But >> um we got >> Yeah, because because the Franklin County one is that afternoon. >> Okay. >> Switch every year. Last year ours was in the afternoon. So that's why >> I guess it's big that we're doing this
though, Michael. Taking the time to do it because last year we were very successful. >> Yes. >> In the legislative. So every every bit of time that we put into this, you know, planning and and and when we actually go up there, I mean, we know we got they already know, at least our ours know and
then we're hitting the other other side. So I think it's time well spent. >> Yeah. >> I think for a small county, we've got tremendous our very fortunate. Absolutely. >> Yeah. So on on on the list that I have,
I have fire training academy, airport and road road projects in general. That's our uh scrap cop which we've been very successful in getting. I've got fire truck and I've got water projects sewer reuse. Is that
>> who's getting the fire truck? >> That's my question too. >> I think it's over street maybe. Where's Matt? >> Yeah. So, so in your go ahead, he's got something for your packet next week, but there is a memo in the consent agenda for the upcoming meeting, but in the
five-year fire department plan that we put together, we would be we would be going into this would be year four. So, uh, with Tapo Creek was first for appropriations, get a fire truck, then Dow Keith and Stonemill Creek, Over Street is this year. where Howard's Creek would be next
year in the five-year plan. So, it'd be a it'd be a tanker truck for Over Street. >> Do we have a a tanker that we're going to be mothballing? >> In other words, do we when Over Street Over Street gets theirs or you know, and
I know Beaches is buying one. So, Beaches was going to send one to Over Street. >> It it is possible. Are you meaning like for training for the training? >> No, I'm not talking I'm talking about one that they that you can practice. See, and I don't know what the time frame is on that building being completed, but I would think we would
have something by then because we if this appropriation works out for Over Street, they're going to get a new tanker. They're going to get a hand-me-down pumper from Beaches sometime next year when that truck comes due. And the same thing with Howard Creek. If the Howard Creek, if Howard Creek gets one in two years, they're
getting a hand-me-down tanker from South Gulf within the next four weeks. So, both of those departments have trucks that need to come off the line. >> Good. Good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. >> So, if y'all would vote on uh this being
our uh initial request and y'all can talk about it at the delegation meeting. That's good. I entertain a motion that we move forward those legislative priorities requests. >> Second, Mr. Chairman. >> All right. Motion by Commissioner Husman. >> I'll second it.
>> Second by Commissioner Pre. Any further board discussion? Anyone in the public? One in the public. Yes, ma'am. >> Come on up. State your name, address for the record. >> Casey Pluff, District 5. Where can we get a copy of what you guys are looking
at or like before meetings if we want to look just to see like what's being discussed? How can we get those? >> So today everything was just u whatever the commissioners brought up. >> Okay. >> Now so if you want to get a copy of uh the agenda um miss Lyanna you send you
send that out on th when you send the agenda out. Agenda information packet. >> Yes. >> For the regular meeting. So if you want she can put you on the email list and you can she'll email you a copy of
>> So for special meetings though is there also like things to look at other than like I realized today you guys brought it but >> only thing we have is um whatever we probably going to discuss but every now and then we may have a small packet or something that we got to go over but
that probably won't be >> notice u section on the website too. >> Yeah. So we see this public like you know notice but then there's just the categories and so like if we are like looking for like subcategories of like or if you know they give you guys printouts um just so that we can be
informed of like what's being discussed cuz it's like hey does anybody from the public have a question well sometimes you know you don't really know like if you weren't able to look at things prior you know >> so so so I would say uh I would just ask
that you get on the the email list and then you get the notice and then you will get agenda of if it's a consent or whatever going to be sent down you'll have a copy of it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes. >> All right. Um anyone else in the public on this?
All right. Any opposition to the motion? All right. Motion pass five and0. Uh ratify VAB chairman and vice chairman. So, uh, we need to get a motion to, uh, if you guys are okay with me being the chairman of the value adjustment board and, uh, Commissioner
Mcronone being the vice chair. Um, if y'all okay with that, unless, unless one of you guys want to be, >> I'll be courteous. >> I I'll move that right now. >> Good job. >> All right. I I give it to All right, Commissioner Husman, second by Commissioner PR. >> Thank you.
>> Good with the second, right? Yes, sir. >> Okay. All right. Anyone in the public on the value adjustment board appointees? All right. Any opposition to the motion? All right. Motion pass five and0. Thank you very much. All right. Uh before we go to you, I got
one I got a uh need to bring up one thing and I need to see if I can get you guys to uh so with the meeting for Tuesday 26, I got a conflict. So, I'm actually I'm actually we actually start testing at the school on the 26th and I now a part
of the testing coordinator. So, I need to see if we can move that meeting from 9:00 to 2:00. Um, we should be done by by one, but if we can move the meeting to 2 o'clock, I I really would appreciate it. But, but but if we but if you guys if we can't move it,
>> you ready? You might have to run to me. You ready to run to me? So, Mr. Mcronone have to run to >> I'm good with it. >> I'm good with that. That's fine. >> So, do we need a motion on that? >> Sorry. >> All right. So, I got a motion by Commissioner Mcronone. We're going to move that meeting to 2:00. I'll >> second. >> Second by Commissioner Mackmore.
Appreciate it. All right. Anyone in the public moving this meeting? So, we're going from 9:00 to 2:00. Any opposition to the motion. All right. Motion pass. All right, Mr. Ham. So, we'll get the clerk to send out a notice for that special and then of course it'll be on
the actual agenda for next well I guess it'll go out this Thursday and then we we can change it on the website. So, I just got the county attorneys got an update with our city annexation lawsuit that we had some developments in that recently and then uh we've got a couple
more hearings coming up the next actually next week, next Wednesday and next Thursday. Chairman, commissioners, good afternoon. Um, as I indicated last week, we uh had an opportunity to go and appear before Judge Kier um on a partial motion for
summary judgement. Um, that lawsuit's been going on for seven, well, the issue has been going on for seven months. Uh, the lawsuit's been going on for a little bit, part of five months. Um, what we were trying to do since January is to notify the city that you had an interlocal agreement from 2013 that
simply stated as one of the 13 provisions that they would notify you if they ever tried to do any annexation. Um, they didn't do that and on January 21st they had a meeting. They sent you a letter on January 23rd. So each month you sent me to the city commission meeting letting them know that they didn't do it right to go back and do it
right and have the public participate, have the property owners be on notice. St. Joe company, Duke Energy, Hollings Head, the adjacent property owners who are going to be created into an enclave. And we were repeatedly told by the city in the conflict assessment meeting that you were in here. We were told in the mediation, I was told at city commission
meetings that they in fact did everything right and that they had not broken your contract. The judge disagreed and he agreed with the county that in fact they did break it and he granted our summary judgement motion for um breaching that interlocal agreement. So that's the first step. Um, and the
judge is going to set a date on damages for the county to have to go through all this the last seven months to prove that simple point to make them honor that interlocal agreement which is by law. The second part of this now is next week we're going to go back before the judge and we're going to argue the legality of
what they did which is creating an enclave, three different enclaves. And so we'll be prepared to make that presentation to the court next week and ideally have the court rule on it. And ultimately, if they determine that it's illegal what they did, then there shouldn't be a need for future hearings.
Um, if the court decides that in fact it was done improperly in terms of due process, the city may elect to go do it again, but the outcome will still be the same, which is it was unlawful what they attempted to do, which is what the county has been arguing all along. So, we're going to be back before them next week, and I hope I can come back with
the other part of this with other positive news to let you know and the public know that it's a difficult position to take you commissioners when you want to have to go to court to prove something. You were left no ultimate, you were left no alternative. Um, you tried for several months to convince them. And which leads me to the next
thing, which is unfortunately we're back in the throws of another annexation. You all passed a resolution in opposition to this latest one. Um, again, I went and presented that to them. I've since sent them the resolutions that you adopted at your last two meetings. I sent them a certified letter to let them know of
your conflict assessment meeting coming up. And we'll go through this whole process again. And unfortunately, we have to do that. So, um, I indicated to the city attorney that you all had full intention of participating and being there like you were the last time. That triggers sunshine and notice requirements. So, we'll be prepared in
this room like we were back in March to have a public meeting in front of the public to have that dialogue and they could have one commissioner show up. They can have all five. And I encourage the city attorney to please have as many of them to show up as possible where we're trying to work around their schedules um as best we could so that
they'll all be here. I think some of them had some weddings and some conflicts. So, what we're trying to do to accommodate them is to have them all here to be a part of that dialogue for all 10 of you gentlemen to have that discussion again to hopefully avoid another another seven months of litigation. Um, but I will report back
to you after next week's second part of these hearings hopefully with some more positive news. >> Thank you, sir. >> Can I ask counselor a question? council. The the second annexation that is directly across the street from where we're talking about this Marine Academy
>> directly. Yes, sir. Across from that in other words, where we're going to where the public would drive into the Marine Academy, this supposed housing condos is going to be right across the street. >> It is. And the statute speaks to being contiguous and and in the same nature
and um obviously the intent of the neighborhood. So, not only is it next to the academy, it's next to a proposed $70 million floating dry dock. Um, it's next to a 75-year-old industrial park. It's surrounded by industrial property all around it. And this track since 1990 has been a wooded lot that's been in an
industrial park. Um, and we brought all this to their attention. We've put it in your letters and we're going to bring out the statute and we're going to argue the law again. Um, it doesn't fit. And we talked about two things in the city meetings, which is one, is it lawful? And a second, is it appropriate? and the
county's position it's neither of those. >> And I think it'll belver this, but I think it's important to know that when we created our comp plan, we did it with the intention of what is Gulf County going to look like in the future. That's why you make a comp plan. Sure, you can change a comp
plan. We do it all the time. Everybody does that. But you don't go away from the gest of why you have a comp plan. You say, "These are residential sides. These are their agricultural sides. These are the industrial sides. That's why you create it. That's why the laws were created. Correct. >> That's what we did. And so the question
now is is I just don't think that's appropriate. It's just not. Michael J, if I can get Michael, I want to clear something up too. I think it's a little misconception is they claim this property was on residential, but if I'm not mistaken, back in the 90s when the
comp plan was done, this property was zoned industrial. Is that >> correct? And it's never been anything but industrial. And and again, I I said in the last meeting, and I don't know if I said it strong enough, that their their their consultant told a baldfaced lie. Their consultant with all these conflicts that work for the city and all
these developers, but told a bald-faced lie that he just pulled up something and that it was zoned residential by the county. Now, the reason that's a ridiculous lie is because not only did they do a annexation, they did a land use change to change it from industrial
that the county has to to uh uh residential before the city even had annexed it. So, that is they're talking out of both sides of their mouth. It makes absolutely no sense. But no, it has never been anything but uh industrial. again when the city was doing all these hopscot uh annexations
in the in the early 2000s when they wound up annexing all the way to St. beach. Uh this was owned by the port authority at that time and the port authority voluntarily annexed that in and you know and then they skipped up down and they got some of those areas on the other side of the industrial road
and did the industrial park and you know they skipped some places in Highland View and then got Butlers and the and the Robertson piece and they skipped around the school and those houses and got to Dixie Bell Curve and then they skipped Windmark Beach and then you know so
this was a enclave created at that particular time and again but it was always industrial and not only was this piece you know we're talking about I think the the the two pieces that eastern has are about 68 acres in that range this piece is 2 and a half acres
you've got across the street 40 something acres that the Port Authority has the old Arizona chemical site that's industrial the 380 acres across the road that St. Joe company owns industrial. Uh the city wastewater plant industrial uh MTI the coal plant industrial the piece
that's in litigation with the county that's just over 100 acres industrial. The the transfer station across the street industrial. So again there's nothing that anywhere near this that's residential. In fact if you go across the Guff County Canal into Highland View
both the Raffield piece is industrial and the woods piece is industrial. And then of course you get back to the sand hills after that. So there's nothing even remotely close to this that is anything but industrial. And who thinks that it would be a great idea to put uh kids and and whether it's condos or
whether whatever it is uh you know and based on city density they get 100 units on that two and a half acres that they get maximum. So uh it's it's it's just not the place for housing of any type because not only is you know I've heard the argument that it's been industrial
all these years and it's not being used. that is an active site. That is an active rock transportation, aggregate and and you know everything that cement and sand and whatnot. So there's active tractors and and machinery out there working all the time. So uh it's not
something that's going to be conducive with somebody, you know, trying to sleep or trying to, you know, have some quality of life in a house. So, >> Commissioner, if I can add to Michael's comments, too, over the next couple weeks, there's going to be a public
discussion. Each of you commissioners, as you have in the past eight months, you're going to have folks come to you in the community and ask you about this. Um, and the narrative from the city, the narrative from the county, and then there's a public opinion. I think it's really important on top of what Michael just mentioned, there's two additional things that we're going to hopefully
flesh out in this conflict assessment. It's your one opportunity to have them sit there and you highlight your concerns for them. One of them being that we there's a letter from Eastern Ship Building who employs 500 people in our county that was given to them that they said they never received. They said
they never got the letter. Um it was addressed to them. So we we actually provided them a copy when we went to their final meeting on August 5th. Joey Dernia expressed his opposition to this. There was no consideration of the letter. In fact, they were actually critical of what was going on. And the
second being that you'll hear is that this Kenny Mills was a platted subdivision in the 1930s. So almost a hundred years ago at one time would an argument be made that this possibly was a sh you know mill homes or millboxes for the folks that work in these
factories as they come up out of the ground. But for the better part of the past century has not. It's a wooded lot. So when the arguments made that it's a platted subdivision, was there an intent possibly at one time a 100 years ago? Yeah. And there was there some homes out there possibly 90 80 years ago possibly
for the better part of the half century it's been all industrial and so as the public consumes this and they hear about it from your meetings and your conflict assessment the city meetings it's very important that these facts are actually out there so that when you have this discussion there's no gray areas it's
black and white >> so last thing that I have to say about the the whole thing so Again, a bad idea, bad place, but but and I I don't know if it's just straight up retaliation, if it's sour grapes, if it's just childish petulence on behalf
of some of the city commissioners. They have apparently advertised uh for their next meeting to do a letter rescending their letter of support that's you know more than 5 years old for the floating dry dock and an attempt I guess to attack Eastern for writing a letter objecting to putting a housing
development that's 2 and a half acres right in the middle of their 68 acre industrial development. So I think anybody that can reach out I'm assuming I can count it looks like it's 22. So, we're looking at a 3-2 one way or the other on that city board u of of how
they're going to go. We need to encourage them not to not to be not to cut off the nose to spite their face and oppose uh blue collar jobs when we need them because uh again, Eastern owns that property. They paid a lot of money from that property. They have a right to
oppose somebody building a house next to their industrial property. And uh again, uh if you can encourage the ones that you can to to not do something stupid out of spite uh to Eastern. >> Mr. Chairman, commissioners, next week
at your regular meeting, I'll come back to you all. You've already passed resolution for conflict assessment. I've scheduled and noticed that. I'm waiting for confirmation from the city to confirm it. They need to advertise it as well as we will. Um and then again it will be open to public in this room but there'll be a final resolution based
upon the outcome of those meetings on what you'd wish to do next and move forward. >> All right. >> That's all I have Mr. Chairman at this time. >> Commissioners good. Good. Thank you. I thank everybody for coming to the special meeting. Entertain a motion to adjourn. >> So move.
>> Motion by Commissioner Hudman. Second by Commissioner. in the opposition.