let pray father Lord just thank you for your mercy your grace father we just thank for each and everyone that's here today Lord God representing uh the city that we want you in g county Lord God father we just pray that you give us all wisdom and understanding to help uh lead and guide the people of g county Lord father we just pray that you give us
favor in every area of Our Lives as we lord God Work Lord God together Lord God father we just thank you Lord God for this for these Bo Lord God and the tireless hours Lord God the sacrifices that they put in Lord God to help represent your people Lord father we just thank you for GU count father we
just give you the praise we give you the glory we give you the honors in Christ name we pray amen I Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the repic it stands one nation God
indivisible andice welcome everyone to the workshop worksh between uh County officials and City officials kind of figure out how we can come together together kind of help you guys and how
you can help help us out so we'll be having a joint discussion that we some intruction and pH G mayor joh ciss countri count
distri H District i' apologize fer well U first I'd like to say thank you to the county do that much commend and we great
appreciate and everything Jack Mr M he reached out numerous times already U house we house by the county B James
Park we got spend probably about 600,000 new lights those lights about down there and I think we got a price of just materials long was around 200 200,000 that doesn't include a
contractor or any materials they missed but I know Hamond had talked to us year or so ago about maybe you take 30
something maybe I to that's but anyway uh if you look at the numbers down and we hadn't looked at them in several years but and that's what it's for for the
County use South County use it but that being said there's about [Music] 81% kids playing ball down there that are don't live inside the city in other words the parents are not paying tax money to keep that up and y'all have
helped forward a lot and we appreciate and don't mean that is in anyway uh but that being said there's a lot more County kids the near City just that's just way the population is up
here there's more people outside the city there is inside I think we've got what 2100 and you every but that's thing in any way
help us with our roads I know wanted to talk about roads a little bit weally than for certain we' had a good response out of mr's office we wrot some letters up
there to Sarah law or she took it over and she uh got on the federal level with that thing and that's when we got fin real quick out of the insurance compy Chang their team almost immediately and we appreciate all the
help y gave us in that even though we're having trouble collecting our money out of the state from the original funds federal government gave them I think that's holding what 500 600,000 something we have yet toer that
have some letters out from that we may out help that's all I've got you know anything you doing you kindad where we at that's the thing we got to figure out
what we get what we iist I at all so our current deal ter 231 the current Bond will be paid off but it's callable this year so we can what we've done in the past time we've done six in the
last years have from that we did 9515 I think last5 we did one in but our local option one if yall are a part of we have an inter agreement on with both C in31
it's call this year and it generates about $425,000 a year of which shares sh 21 that's how what
city 21% and that's the that's the default bill it's the same breakdown a lot of State Shar bar you know to change what we've done in the past and again to yall y do it
again seems to be consens with County commiss goward and what happens is a little bit different now all five commissions have a east of both cities in in the district so Ty what happens is each City will
turn into list they will we don't have the till we get a little closer but it'll be 5 minut on the low side 10 m on the high side so y cut some say three y will get to choose
we've done in the past for what y sh is and then y lob your commissioner or Commissioners to to prioritize on their list and some of these other things I wasn't involved in the
95 more beneficial for the city uh I think at that time our share was like 150,000 and back then you know for $150,000 resurface a mile and half I don't know I mean everything that I've been
using is about $180 a t but anyway it was more beneficial for the city at that time up board obviously but for us to throw our little in there with y'all because you can B and that's what happened back then
that's know count can get money and they help us so I guess we just need once we get the numbers figured out so to and then we'll need to come toess right now
the dies in 2031 but we have to change that to pay off the it's probably not bad we're down to to the last bit I say interest when we started this on the
on the small one we got two the Big B which is really County money which we bought in the past has flipped that evenly um it started at 3% on the big and and the highest interest rate in that in that time period I think it
was 20e period roughly 19e period went from 3% to 4% on the smaller line went from 2% the last three years of the best de go 5% and we're talking about a very small amount of money less than a million
so actual interest is pretty low F out it benefits us to to go back we pay a much higher rate start two that's 250% higher you% high
so it's probably good math to do it now time follow F about time but we would probably need to do a 20year deal that's cat extend the local
option gas tax to 2045 right now it's in 2039 so to do 20e deal we got so my guess is the earliest everything went right would be the fall or late
ready we have a special meeting tomorrow night do that s to us we'll get the ball road with the attorneys and and then the other thing would be get your road list together and again we won't there's no need for us to waste
money doing $100 million on the road we don't have this this amount of money y prioritize a deal we'll get some es before we design and say right this is my top when we get to 7,000 whatever St got
money way do and then some of their priorities make coincide the other Poss some of these bigger we successful 381 Henry Avenue andity you course sometimes we get small
ones we got money left over de 31 31 it 386 comb
back took forever so anything we can get these big roads Side Road 22A things like that City needs to be apped I assume they are things that lead up all of your
money they are is just the municipal stop is so much smaller and there's like let's say a ten of the money in there I've explain it to them but there's a tenth of the money and there's 10 times more applicants so the money
doesn't go very far so you have to find a project that's basically $100,000 to even be available for the funding for the municipal SC so that's that's where they're on a kind of a downhill slide there
can we go back and talk about the lights DL James I more in depth um and I want to thank the board for for helping the TL James Park I know we put in quite a bit last year in this past budget uh it's really helped I think T
James park it looks back a great job um and we've got b ball courts there now they're getting used every single day um and on the on the ball field lights those lights are in bad shape I think Michael has gone through and and done a
good job on on the actual trying and and the mayor too of course uh but trying to get the the cost down as much as possible um they're they're buying certain kind of light they're buying LED lights but something doesn't have to wait 20 minutes on you cut them off
light back to cool off and to turn them back so cost wise I think that's about as cheap as it can can be so I think if it's all right in the past we basically had in our budget about 50,000 a year
and we just need the city to commit to spending the 50,000 a year I think we can give you the 50,000 that's in our budget so I just want to make sure um I know Michael and I talk the other day that's what it's there we just we just need y'all to to spend it so we can get
those Ls up there um and I know as long as I'm here I I can't speak the other four guys but I know been our I think Micha there years ago uh it's been there every single year so we want to help and we want that place to be as as nice as anything I can
promise you that so we we've all been trying I spend a lot of time with Michael down there um so I want to make sure that we're getting new back PES this year as tur new nets all the we put that money
in the budget as well so if there's a if there's a way that I can help or we can help you know to get yall like I said I would be willing to to make sure that we put that in there I think Michael's promised to you over years I don't want to speak for him either but um we just need yall to
commit to that and I think we can get all get that done um yeah we we're definitely appreciate that but here's the problem so we you're asking us to spend money so we got borrow $600,000 $500,000 whatever it
is pay interest on that money get like 50,000 a year well even if we got money 5% that's a lot of interest money giv away out of that 50,000 a year you see what I mean I mean think about it like
that U what we need to do we're going to have to borrow money but we need a way to you know I wish we got $50,000 start about 3 years ago we have 150
already we can put into it up front we have to borrow quite as much money but you know you talking about Bing $600,000 first year see what I mean I don't you see what I'm saying yes sir
and the flip side I'm not trying to argue with but the flip side is you're getting it for interest yeah but we got to pay interest on that money we Bor huh yes sir but you're PID interest
and if we're willing to give you 50,000 a year yes we going have 22 good first year sir we'll have 20,000 to The Good the first year going ,000 first year oh yeah
first I'm saying so what I'm saying is if you were to if we're willing to give you that and you have $100,000 wor interest on $600,000 then you've got $100,000 invested in the city ball field L that's a pretty good deal I think I just sa
money all the way around $1,000 $1,000 and while it's not a lot of money to the county to the city it is a m see what I mean I
mean basic a b you basically B the good thing about Vol when we brought it up was you want to buy those lights in two years going to be a lot more than they are now two years ago yeah and it keeps going up
the thing about it is I think Phil just my take I play sports long time hit my first home it is special to a lot of people um the don't cheap out on on the lights because you want to make sure you get a
good quality I I'm just telling you because if you you could spend $50,000 more to get a better light and you B especially so you're paying it off over a long period of time go ahead and do it because I've SE entities try to cheap out at the last minute and it Go just
pain then you basically wasted it three years at workless so I'm saying that's just my take yeah we're spending a lot of money keep might come down a little too oh yeah for keep for us but any help we get out County
certainly appreciate we we know we got to do something is that right guys fall down some so that came in 600,000 no we only got pric on uh the materials you said
200,000 200,000 for what the coop and Michael can you help me and he quot for all hiss and then usot for what toar everything
down andig 6550 600,000 is with their help they to down we've been we've been looking at this for couple years now and we got
this Saturday Sunday all day long price just ,000 it was in our budet it's been our budget for or years
last first was about week we had um but yeah that's what we did make sure we got not spend to spend money so we just roll it
over we've been ourd well we'll well that the Mee tomorrow too so we can on that so I think 85 this year current have we set aside ,000 share
from the lighting we had 25,000 for the batting pages and improvements and then you have an additional 10,000 that isn't par specific so you could actually use that just those three numb alone that's 85,000 in the current
budg but those arec are what we could do it's been in there but the problem is you don't have a side agreement the board approve the commission prove it at the next budget deal goes away there
also sub Str you can't bond assum this is reim what we could potentially do and says okay we're going to give you 200,000 over the next four years 50,000 years we'll do an agreement okay and L
that 50,000,000 bu and then you don't have that but then don't forget and then come back I so that that that is a that is a way a legal way we can do that and say okay
we're buying lights but we can't go back and say well we're paying interest in we can't go back and say this is for something you do three years ago so it would be better if if we could plan ahead and again we just don't have 200,000 that pot sit around this time we
budget for so say for October you don't that have come so that would make cost a lot
we go ahead light I that's lot the mayor said tremendous amount of people move to the north I know a lot of lot of our people in South move way uh beautiful part by
the way Jam Beau but but I I I think that's that's you said of TVC you that sound that sounds great that'll save you the
interest and then as far as that that'll be the entire amount say is that what you're saying the entire am I think that' be the agreement that's years worth we
justay contractor contract that'll give them that'll give the city the assurance that it's not going to be 50,000 a year or two well they spend that so you got you got y haven't what that 10,000 for so
you can use that as well all of that money has to be is reim you have to spend it on approved Bill and even with Advance we would need for cash flow purposes get your contract or your purchase or whatever we could
Advance you the funds with that documentation and then as soon as you write them the check you would need to send us a copy of the check and the clear check um so we would need to follow up immediately with that um information so we couldn't give it and the purchase not be made Yes except instead of waiting to
check CLE if y need it for cash flow we could you know Advance it for like a week because you turn around and then cut a check to the you have the invoice your contract whatever backup documentation so that we could sounds technically that include
ble basically used up that I think it yeah but they had other stuff too so they used up all the funds allocated to them last year I believe so even we end what we ended up doing everybody know we had thought that the
first that it was going to take an inch to Asphalt and it took two Ines so the asphalt price dou uh but those should we did and the city did all all the p um and I went down and checked on it great he did a great job on that you guys did
and um we end up doing two ass they should be there absolutely forever yes sir request front 200 come October Comm so
we to get okay you can adj on that so we place that order long so it's just order to theice make work out we actually
out oober oober oober yeah um yes sir thank you Mr chairman I'd like to bring up the courthouse uh we we've been talking a lot about that there with you guys years
ago and looked at it um we we've got to have an got have that's been my my biggest thing at the courthouse and miss an thought she's here and maybe she wants to get and talk a little bit too but um she's
done a really good job with with everything that she's done uh playing a very big role in this so and others as well but in my mind the best end use is for the city we all to use that as a as a
city hall it could have an end user um we can state that in Grand applications I just feel like without the research that I've done without an end user we're going to have a very hard time getting grants for it which does the courthouse no good the city does need a city hall I
think um so maybe we can have a one room in there that's a museum of old pictures and things of that nature that that we could have in there uh like a museum type room uh that's a showcase for a TDC stop uh
and and do some things there but I think overall and miss an actually I cannot take credit for this but miss an had a very good idea that the Green Space around that Courthouse could serve as farmers markets on Saturdays it's a it's a pretty good acreage there and there's
a lot that could be done with that to help the city out over time it'll give just with that property it'll give you guys the ability to have two places to do things like that right now you have Lake Al par which is a great set up good festivals but you can also have the
courthouse Commons if you will and we could have it designed so that you know you had sidewalks and things of that nature to set things up and power R and things of that nature so um that'll give youall two two options but if if that's something that the city's willing to do
if we can get AAL out of out of the city to do that I think our grant applications could could move forward with getting theth I certainly have I you and I talked about yes sir very long
ago I think it be great to see believe sherff could have place in there that's that's great miss and do you want to add anything well that pretty much covers was thinking you know it's such a beautiful area right there
that we could expand downtown because most places have pretty couses they have kind of a central location around their courthouse and there's even some property um behind the courthouse as a house for sale you know we can have like
a little town square you know eventually maybe we can you know somehow get that we can incorporate that into the courthouse also you the courtyard is a big nice Courtyard to have all kind of events we got the library right there which is a
um County city um building you got senior citizens there you got the old marw the clinic on that corner you know so we could just have kind of a central Town Square around the courthouse then that would be really pretty for the city
kind of brand that into our you know town space the post we don't have really a historic that um company came through a couple years ago and did some research we only had a few older buildings that were in
town that they could even consider historic so we don't have like the downtown historic district like St Joe has you know so we can kind of extend ours over into the courthouse section and you build build on those two areas
Lake and would tear the jail down it was built at a later time yes sir when we do let's make it I don't want to see the city get a moose around their neck they
need something that's maintainable I'm you know go into it you know need to search out grants going to bring everything up they're not burden down in the year to come with something they can't
maintain right yes sir for sure I agree but they can't have thei le and all that thing and take it over now for sure there's no way that anybody would do that um but if we can get to a point where it's attainable uh and manageable for for the
city I think that's the goal for sure we got a work I mean I'm thinking about you Sher said you know you want to have a place in there or city hall and then had a museum we talked about that if you got a I mean going forward
everybody had a an idea of what what it's going to look like you know design think that' be important I don't know if you have there's a work group a group of people is that the next step or that that would be
can be and it is the is part thank you who's looking who's looking at I mean is is Aon eron's looking at our department we've been working with Jack
for a while in finding out what options are like I said finding that in is number one also on reg our department
is now in a caution on that sometimes put it on that historical register your cost of construction goes woo out out out the door that was that was a school before and then a school you know you had certain windows that were in there you had to
replace those windows just like that I just say I know that's what it needs to be on there but there going be parts of it accessibility not as much but there's options there that you don't have to put elevators like that you know you don't
have to so you don't have to accessibility rules so there's going to be there's going to be a give and take on on the cost there and it will add additional have go environmentals have news will be lots of public comment
because basically forever anytime there's any signicant change or anything all that will have to all those it will add add
and and also City us reinvestment kind of stuff is the more integrate in writing it shows the connectivity and
the agreement and those ones will come as in pieces but um you'll still have that plan of sequence to do all the things like public comment that's just a protocol but do make sure
that you get planning money so that you but the more people I I've seen in in C County their City their school board and their um County commissions meet Porter and they
project whatever I think they did sidewalks from one Elementary School to a high school so it's good about that too so that's look at
com forces like you guys are to go thats you guys are I've been student who has been um working on a he's been working on the
courthouse project for a year so now is part of his thesis and um he has started out there was 27 pages in the um of information about the courthouse and he's the document that he has now is
over pages of the information that he's gathered on the courthouse about research and different things that he's done um I shared a copy Jack I'm not sure how much they had a
chance to but got did you get a to I I haven't yet but I did have a cop worked really hard on that on that and he's very willing to help any way that he can um and he's very
knowledgeable about all the ins and outs of what needs to be done he's a gr writer also and he works you know with one of the can't remember Place FSU he works
with he works with FSU all that and he's very knowled but he's more than willing to help out El actually already okay don't City and decide what they want in that
building before we want to get out of everybody else you know what I'm saying I think they're going to play a for play a huge part of that the building we personally we just like to see it
sa I me beautiful building that sounds great me talk about fire a little bit I see we got some Chiefs here Chiefs here I I think I've mentioned it I know a lot of you we talked about White City
um the old fire station there going forward the old putting a training facil because it's Cally located from North and South I know went through training some of the guys come from we all to go to South Co
that's a that's a hall uh and then when we do training we have to go way up to uh north of Panama City to their thing or go to chipo so that being said you know we got a facility that was warmer fire station we walked the other day with some rehab and a little preparation
from the from the state we could put a nice train in there so uh I think we have someone's going through trainer want to be a trainer back there and uh if we can get our own training here to get our own sign offs because the people that are in there I'm 62 folks I'm
getting a old for this and we're starting to age out across all of our fire departments we're starting to age out and we need the younger groups coming in well it be a lot of easier we catch them and train them uh and we have a facility to do that the ultimate goal
is to get it in high schools and uh if you do that we don't have any what can we do we can do classwork we are we could do classwork at St Joe get them fire one but they got to go somewhere to train we don't want to send them all the way to Bon City to do that part of the training so that's the ultimate go three
or four years down the road and put a class in high school start getting some of young ladies and men in there that want to be there you know they may go work p City full time but guess what they still live here they can help us out forward uh get some ideas do y'all
have any ideas on that I mean we definitely want to get some people that are the fire chiefs involved in that and making sure when we set that building up that we set up for everybody because right now we meet we needed a brush fire over Street that's what we do we see North and South we' be halfway in
between so maybe right here in over street is I mean in White City is a good place for that so any thoughts on that Chiefs that are out there I think that'd be a great idea as far as uh commute back and forth it's definitely a Long
Hall here we got fewer members I would venture to say on the south on the north end but something in the middle would be great come on over got I got so I'm the fire chief of St Creek W
um and like you mentioned as far as having training facility somewhere in the middle would be beneficial for for all sides of the county commute because we do get a mileage per V what have you that we turn in
so most of the training is going to be driving some distance to be able to get that quality training that we have and if I'm not mistaken g county actually owns a burn trailer uh that is at G coast of Community College on 77 and so
that's something that we already have but because we don't have to hold it out and from my understanding it was sent over there to be used so think a great idea I think we a people here in town I think Mr trip has has
one graduating and he's going through firef one right now he can't do it till he graduates right he's he's ready to do it be Avail talked to someth you mentioned the other day and
they're eager to hear more about is that something that okay soep next step I'm going they're doing it first one in this area is over Leon High School they started at this fall and they they they they saw need because their fire
departments are aging out they're taking a 25 year retirement and and and getting out of a fire department so they're having a need of there you know they're paid fire it's a little bit different it's the paid fire department but they got in with tal State College and they partnered with them they put it at Leon High School so they do their classes
they got a grant PID for all their equipment but they're actually teaching it on the campus but Tallahassee has their on fire academy right there so it's a little they're a little different they can just bring them over here during the day they meet there in the afternoon do their you know the the
physical part there so what the the goal would be when we get White City there where we can do the all the we have all the components for the fire one you're only going to get them through fire one which is basically you're certified in the State of Florida which is what we need for our fire departments before you
become a full-time person you have to go here you know you got you got to be you got to be an EMT paramedic SL and Fire 2 to be full time and you you right now 60 Grand P City to start with I think they start full
time you get fire one there when you come out and the good thing about it is you get a certification on that end and then that pays that school back and they can I me they can get to absolutely that you get white city com so you have a I was thinking just the plan would be
you hire the person and that person's usually paid for out of a grant that you get to teach it could be what you know I don't know he he's got a fulltime job but it could be someone who is either May retired person that can teach and they'll go to wewa for the morning and go to St for the evening and then when
they have to do their cicles I call it they would meet in White City on a Saturday or Sunday that we own it it they don't have to we don't have to send them to Panama City way up there or something like that so that would be that's probably three years down the road though but this is their first year let's see how many they got they they started with 25 you know normal
Christian you'll be down when we started the last fire one that I went through we had 12 and ended up with four graduated on time so the attrition rate for the people older people is is a lot more hopefully if we get the younger people in this part of their curriculum I think
we get along that's but that's like I said probably three years down the road we got to get this facility first I mean that's where we got a a place where we can just there's some things you have to have props and all that we do it right uh I think we're going to get kids that want to do a share and I really do I
think the kids are out there they just you know I I would have done it my senior year you got by the time you get your senior year you got a lot of wasted credits we know I mean stuff you're just looking to do you know if you play a sports you want to keep you got to stay on campus and I think it's something that a lot of them would do so that's
that's down the road yes we start getting them interested now yes absolutely absolutely if I can add something on that uh last year was one of the city members that approached the county departments and so we did go to
the high school and you had a little brief talk with them and explained to them how the volunteer department works went out demonstrated some of the equipment that we have the city used their jaws uh we demonstrated air packs water supply things of that nature to to
try to encourage some of the younger the seniors is what we mainly focused on um and the school was very accepting of that and that's also a part of what we get our ISO rating on is how much Outreach that that the department does so that's one of the requ
for gaining ISO R so that's that's something we have gotten into and they start getting credits in the ninth grade so we get start generating excitement there that's great only missing here is the school
district be talk tvc's been up our 100 cration coming up Summer I think City got cly to support been coordinating she'll
continue to do that just know that we're here to question I have one more question about the infrastructure of the city roads are we working on I not have
but we're having some recurring flooding on Second Street is that is that part of the H H actually here talk about that yeah we're working Citywide Fork we're good I think we meeting
apprciate months I know there maybe includ the school board too there's some projects that um sa and things that we had city after
calks might be available if yall see a need want to do that this fog last kind of been on my mind this past week with the f these kids there's more and more kids walking school and riding bikes and and our parents are working so we need to help
facilitate that as much as possible theing the fall Bad let's just see what I just want to thr that out there and see something that's just one project if they see something and me me so I can take care
of it back you want to do that but um I think it's very productive and today the t is going to get sprued up hopefully and and get a fa on that so had a very meeting
and I think it's work out very very good I uh I have one question before we I walked in a little bit late may talk about I understand may have talked about so so so basically we're going to have to
we haven't decided yet as the county how we're going to Prior prioritize or delegate the money so I've got a list started I think all the commission probably have a list started in our district um so we'll have to figure out how to split our money up and the city will get a percentage of that money and
then I think they I know they I've already seen their priority list as well so they'll have to go through and prioritize their their overall list and then we can go go from there but as the mayor said earlier it doesn't go as far as it used
to so you live on corn gin Street one of Road City so you transition from the dirt road to the pav water run down the road
run across cut that that some of that stff we can look at