You already here. No. Ready whenever you are. Mr. L. He's a great guy. So, let's plan to hit that. So, you're on the app fine because his golf game was Yeah, he's an amazing golf. You had to
give him a bunch of strokes, Paul, but he still won. Well, I was fighting with this guy Larry. Uhhuh. Yeah. And against He's a good athlete against Tom and Michael. We were down four holes. We came back and
last we should have won it but Michael got a long fight. So we split. No. So I'm going to call the meeting to order. Renee, if you could uh be kind enough to uh do the roll call. Mrs.
Arthwine here. Mr. Mr. Glennon here, vice chair, Mr. Dockerty here, and chairman Lions here. Also present participating as town manager Dunham, assistant town attorney Nazaro, and myself. Uh, everybody was given the regular uh
meeting notes of April 24th, 2025. Any comments, corrections? If not, do I have a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve the minutes. Second. Thank you, Mrs. Morthwine. Yes. Mr. Glennon, yes.
Mr. Dockerty, yes. Chairman Lions, yes. Um, you see the announcements for the future uh dates. Um, please again uh advise Renee on your availability so we always have a
call. Um, okay. Any declaration of exparte communication? No. Okay. If you could administer the oath for people going to speak today. If you're going to speak, please stand around your right
hand. Spirit to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth to help you. Make sure I get your name before you lay. Okay. I think the first U applicant is El Cino. Good morning, Dustin Meiselle with Environment Design Group in Palm Beach.
Um, we were here before you last month u with our petition to have the refuge connection to the rightway. Uh, we did listen to you and explore some, you know, alternates with Coastal, the the service provider for the town. Um, I think we've come to a a pretty good
understanding of their willingness to work with us and give us rolling bins so they can pull out and pull it back so we don't have to keep it by the street, which was aesthetic and safety issue. So, uh, uh, the board feels comfortable that we're going to get there. Um, I was just talking to Mr. Nazar real quickly.
The only question we had was we're trying to get the information from Coastal like how many of these bins will take to offset the dumpsters because then our refu area on inside, not right away, might have to get a little bit bigger to accommodate them. So, I was just asking Mr. Nazaro if we could get
an extension and come back next month once we know how many bins we have because our refuge might grow a little bit. Uh, but it's on the inside. You won't see it from public right away. We'll screen it. We just want to make sure we can accommodate uh what Coastal is going to provide us. So if that's reasonable to you, like to ask for extension, we'll come back next month
with a modified site plan. Uh but there will not be any connection to the public rightway anymore. Trey, to make things easier for everybody, is any way that you the staff can handle at this point? I if they move the wall closer to
if they move the wall at all, it it is technically in the North Ocean Boulevard overlay district, which would require ARPB approval. So if they are leaving the wall the same, we can absolutely handle it on a staff level. But for now, if we could just defer it pending what their, you know, proposed resolution is.
And if we need to bring it back, we will. And if not, we can always handle it on a staff level. Um, well, I'm in favor for one comment. I I do appreciate uh your effort to work with the town. Yes, sir. Staff in the town finding a
solution that works for everybody. So to me, it's a win-win. So, uh, we agree. We agree. Thank you. Thank you. That's great. All right. So, if we could just have a motion to defer it to the next meeting. We have a motion to defer. Yeah. I'll make a motion to defer the application 25-8 till the next meeting
in June. That would be the 26th. Mrs. Orwin. Oh, yes. Mr. Glennon. Yes. Mr. Dockerty. Yes. Chairman Lions. Yes. Okay. Thank you. I'm here for the next project as well.
Oh, that's right. Sorry. Yeah. You look like the same guy. Yes. I don't believe you're next on the Oh, I'm sorry. I missed the agenda. That's it. Okay. Oh, you're up. Okay. You're not up next. So, the uh the week's
property Good morning everybody. Uh my name is Walter Hyde. I am a Russell Rasiki's business partner. He is uh unfortunately unable to make it here this morning. I am also a registered architect. I've been practicing architecture for over 20
years, been a registered architect for the past 10. So hopefully uh you will hear me in lie of Mr. Rasiki this morning. Uh I'm here to represent uh Mr. Ryan Weekes uh at 2520
Avenue. Um did a beautiful new single family residence with uh updated landscape design. Basically, the reason why we're here before you today is because there was a decision to add some artificial turf in the rear yard uh
around the pool and we had some landscape changes. So, um to go briefly through the presentation, uh here is the updated Oh, yep. This is the updated survey
um as as built. Um the next slide will be the updated our updated site plan. So due to the addition of the artificial turf uh we did approach the uh hardscape
maximum uh we're just under the 60% required at the 59.8. Uh the landscape is just over the minimum required at 40.1%. Uh that did require us to um increase the size of our swailes. We had to make
them deeper to accommodate the the turf. Uh if we move to the next slide, it's just a a larger view. Uh you could have seen in the last slide the the hatched area. Uh the shade as seen on the screen here is the added
artificial turf. Um if we move to the next slide, this is the updated landscape plan uh which after I conclude uh my discussion, I'll have the landscape designer installer uh speak a little bit more about the changes made
here. Um to summarize it, if I had to, um it largely remained the same, but some tree species were traded out with each other and um some minor alterations were were made. I think it came out absolutely fantastic. So if we move to
the next slide, we have some pictures of the site um as it appears today. Um this is a drone photograph. Uh you could go to the next slide. This would be the street view from the street as you're approaching
the corner of the property. Um, the artificial turf is all, you know, 3 feet off the property line, behind a fence, and screened by the landscaping. So, it's really not seen by the public eye. Um, as portrayed in this photograph. If
we could go here. Yep. Here's the front yard. Um, just showing the house as it is landscaped. Um it differs from the renderings that were previously provided um just with the
type of trees. I believe we've actually increased the quantity of trees quite a bit. So hopefully that satisfies the board. Um if we could continue on to the next picture. Um yep, just another angle. You can keep
going. Uh sideyard. You can start to see some of the artificial turf there. uh and the pool screening. That's the uh adjacent sideyard. We saw the uh opposing perpendicular view uh two or three slides
ago. Yep. Here's the artificial turf surrounding the pool in the rear yard. Um this is one of or if not one of the best uh artificial turfs on the market as far as green design is concerned. Uh
there's really no leeching. The backing of the material is a a soybased product. The the grasses themselves involve the use of sugar cane. Uh it's a renewable product. It's easily disposable. They actually have uh an approval. They're
the only ones to have an approval from the United States Department of Agriculture. Um it's just a super top-notch product. If you've ever watched uh the TGL Golf League, you've seen it on TV. Um, oh, so what's your name? Clicker.
Uh, Joe, what was the exact name? Simon. Simon, would you spell that for me? It's on the next. Thanks. Oh, I think she's grabbing the the sample. Yeah. Thank you. I believe the next few slides just cover
the turf product itself. Um the various points that I talked about. You can actually get uh lead points by using the turf. Uh it's deemed so environmentally friendly u you can achieve those credits with that. Uh
Joe, would you mind coming up to explain some of the landscape revisions? Hey, good morning. Joe Mcdano landscape. Um, we pretty much stayed with the same plan that we presented, but we did add some trees to the property.
Interrup artificial turf, but I think there's a second. So, there's one motion that incorporated both the artificial turf and the changes to the the landscape, but there is one motion in the staff report, but that covers both things
on the landscape plan. We originally had a single um a single trip uh Sylvester palm and we increased it to a triple. Um also, this palm here was a triple bottle palm. We put in a specimen a seven trunk
adinidia versus the triple uh the triple because it's going to be too small and the size of the house is so tall. Um we also in the backyard there was a guava tree which is right in this little courtyard and we put in a specimen rusty
fig much larger piece in that area. Um, we also added a Japanese blueberry tree in the left side yard, two Japanese blueberry cones in the back, and then uh the picture of the
front, we had these two specimen Japanese blueberry cones flanking either side of the entryway. So, there was we had four royals that we did not plant. I just don't have any room, honestly, on the property to put four royals in. But we
did go over on her palms. So, um, I figured there was a tradeoff, but I'd have a hard time squeezing four royals. The only place I can put them is in the swale, and I don't think you got you guys don't want them out there. So, that was that those were my changes, but I did increase the amount
of palm trees on the property and put in some larger specimen pieces, too. If we can retain that photo. Um, I appreciate your comment um from a pure landscaping
perspective having uh different levels of height. You can see in the background how we have some royal palms. Um and and that makes a difference to the overall setting of that community. Yes. Uh, and you and
when I look at this house, you can see that just the roof and then sky and and if you can impose some tall trees, it it really breaks it up and gives it a nicer look in my opinion. Gotcha. Um, so I
think that was part of the reason why um the area, you know, to be in commission, I think approved the plan. So you had this canopy which is a little higher. Um, so that's just an observation from my end. I don't know what
other center one. There you go. So like on this one here, I mean, I increased the size of this piece here. And this one here, this was a triple bottle pump, which is only about 8 foot, which we put that's like a 16 to 18 foot piece. Um, we were supposed to put two
royals in this center island. And I just have I mean you can see the size of this island and there's a main line that runs through here. There's also utilities that go through here. So I had to set this palm back. The root ball on this is about 8 ft in diameter. I just set this further back on this circle in order to
stay out of the utilities. So me to put any more pieces here is pretty much impossible. I may be able to squeeze in a palm on this side of the driveway and possibly on this end here. What might be the maximum trees? Which
ones if they grow? Well, this one's going to grow about a foot to foot and a half a year. This bottom palm grows about a foot a year and the anidia grows about foot foot and a half a year. Let me be clear. I think you did a great job. So, thank you. Okay. So the
question is not whether what you install is I mean it's great question is do we need the height in terms of the aggregate profile of that community when you're driving through and you see some of these tall
royal palms as you can see I have a a bias towards that and I think there's a difference here in the core district u that's I'm just one person here sure I What do others think? Well, I think the plan is beautiful. I I
just think what a what a great addition. What a excellent Thank you. home. I'm sure the neighborhood is very pleased. Um, is the point were there were royals and now there are no royals. There were royals originally there. They were
supposed to be saved. Well, they got destroyed during the demo. Gotcha. So, that was those are the four royals that were there. That's why this is a a artificial and a landscape update because there was a little bit of a correct I understand. Correct. Yeah.
Well, okay. Oh, please. Uh, yes. So, uh, is it my understanding that your proposal is to have turf in the entire backyard and both sideyards? Right. Uh, Walter, answer that question. Yeah, it's it's mostly in the rear yard. Rear yard
only. It's mostly in the rear yard. But what about the sides? On the sides? None on the sides. No, it's not. So this dark green. Can we go back to one of the earlier slightest because when I when I visited the site, you had your artificial turf in but no
grass, you know, on the sides basically. So I didn't I wasn't sure whether you were continuing with the turf. Yeah, they're not done with the with the swailes essentially. Okay. But but your turf is what's there
now and not correct. Okay. Yes. Okay. Will you be able to see any of the artificial grass through that gate? I mean, you have hedging along most of it, but in the in Yeah, you can't can't see any of it at all. Zero. Because that left side,
there's none down that left side and down the right side, there's none here. You can't see it from the road whatsoever. Yeah. Is the turf installed because you can't grow grass or just that the quality of this turf is getting so good that I'm seeing it more and more. The quality has gotten unbelievable. You have to take a double
double take look at it cuz I mean sometimes I have to stop and look at it to see if it's if it's zoya or bermuda or it's artificial because they've gotten so good at at really there's like there's thatch in it. There's a little brown in it. It's becoming very popular
around any uh water bodies, pools, spas of the sort just for maintenance purposes. Long way from Astro Turf in the 70s. Oh yeah, it really is.
So Trey, I have an administrative question. So an applicant can come applicant and presents what they had on the property. what they're going to say. And now we
have a presentation where it was ignored. I hate to put it that bluntly. And I'm not quite sure how we as a town uh administer these applications when
they're just ignored. Um and and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but that's basically the way where we're ending up. And this has happened too often. And by the way, when it has happened,
um, we've required the applicant to replace the trees. And I can think of two two cases. Um, so I I just if we keep repeating the same thing, what's the point of
approving the landscape plans in the first place? Sure. Um, ideally when we get through, you know, a level three application for a new house with complete landscape, we want that to be the final, they've, you know, they're they're starting with a blank canvas.
They can, you know, um, do what they're going to do. One of the instances that I think you're referring to is is Palm Way. So, they took out large palms on Palm Way. Um, and they were required to replace them. um Avenue Ole. Um one of
our um Julio Martinez I can think of is is on one of the corners has a a large number of royal palms all along that area. Um and this was a similar sort of um situation where you drive around the circle of Avenue Olay and you do see a lot of royal palms as you indicated from
um you know looking at you know the background on other properties. Um, so originally those were, you know, requests to be uh to be to remain. Um, the applicant did mention that, you know, the town may not want those in the
swelles. Uh, and I know that Mr. Beltran has stated that that is correct. That is his opinion. He would prefer them not to be on our waterline and we're so close in such proximity that it that it creates an issue. Um, so with this this particular, you know, application, I
think that the town's fairly neutral. Um, you know, certainly if you wanted to require them to put in Royal Palms consistent with the application, you know, that we would support that. Um, but just understanding that, um, you know, our infrastructure is in that
area. So, we're kind of in that area bottom right. Is that what you're talking about? Because that there seems to be a lot of area bottom right. Sure. So you see where I the big grass area. Yeah. Here but remember there's a right of way. So it's like I need to go here.
So on this corner it would be impossible. But if honestly if this was my house I but royals in they'd go right along here. Okay. So that's in the rightway which is in the rightway. But that would be like the perfect spot for them. Really would. This area you're
looking at is also the location of the sanitary system. So we have to be mindful to not plant trees. And initially that's why I had a line of palm trees down here. But these Japanese blueberries, I mean,
these are these are 16 18 foot right now. These are going to get nice and tall, too. So you're you're creating a whole wall of greenery here. You got these Montgomery palms. You got the specimen gumbo limbo that's going to get really large in here. So
Oh, it's a gumbo. Yeah, it's a How tall gumbo? How tall are those going to get and over what time? I know you mentioned on the on the blueberry. Well, on kind of the the different things that you're putting. So, the blueberries, these will grow at least 2 feet a year and these are 16 18 foot right now. So, you know,
next year this time you're putting another two and a half, three feet on these. These will be at 20 foot by next year. But, you know, mature matur up to 50 feet. They do. But then you're just looking at trunk line and that's it. I mean it's just a telephone pole and yeah well I have I have three
of my property and it's you know it's not so much about the individual property right it's the mosaic of the entire neighborhood. Sure. Um and I'm I know I'm repeating myself so I'm if
others don't feel strongly then we'll move on. Um so I don't think anybody feels strongly about bringing back these Montgomery pumps. I mean, these are these are 16 18 foot right now. These put a couple feet on a year. So, I mean, they'll be up in this area by next year.
Um, the only thing I ask is the next time you work on a project, you don't come and ask first before you take it down. I mean, it's we keep going through this redundant. I I don't I don't really want to go to meetings
something and then it's ignored. Um, I I don't want to um say something that's inconsistent with what the applicant stated, but I'm looking at the approval for the home originally, and it looks like the royals that were on the property were always slated for removal,
but they were going to add much smaller ones in. Um, and that those were all kind of around the driveway. So, you have one um if I can Sure, I've got it here. You have one on the left side of the driveway, two in the center here, which
are now replaced by this, and then one in this area. So, you have a significant replacement in that area that replaces the two. And it really looks like what was approved uh was was not particularly large. I
don't think they were maybe 20 25 feet. So, it's not like they were very mature like what we saw removed in Palmway. And uh again, they did have um a request that was approved to remove the existing Royal Palms on the
on the property. So it was always a swap and it looks like it was just an adjustment. I don't want to ask you to take this out now, but I quite frankly I like the original plans and I know they're only 20 feet now, but it's not about just
today or tomorrow. It's about 50 years down the road. and what the canopy looks like. Sure. Because I think that really adds to the character. I agree. So, um Okay, let's make a motion unless there's some other questions. Yeah, I'll I'll be happy to make a
motion. A motion to approve a level two architectural site plan based on a finding that the installation of 2640 square ft of artificial turf and landscape modifications from originally approved plans meet the minimum intent of the
design manual and applicable review standards. I second. Mrs. Orwin, yes. Mr. Glennon, yes. Mr. Dockerty, yes. Chairman Lions, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Thanks.
Okay, now we have the Lord Compton applicant. Good morning. and Dustin Meisel environment design group in Palm Beach help of our clients. Um we're here um
this morning for a request for just a few revisions. Um some are very simple and then one is a little bit bigger which I'll focus more on. Um but we also included in the presentation and Renee will kind of walk you through it some of our earlier approvals because there was some questions about what has been
approved. um you know it was a site plan modification landscape and hardscape um to existing home. We did obtain two uh variances or special exceptions don't remember the terminology. One was for the pergola on the west side to slightly
encroach in the setback on the golf club and on the south side um there was a fountain as well uh that encroach in the required setback. So that was approved previously very thankful for that. Um then we had subsequently made a few modifications to the heartscape and
landscape. So where we're here today back to you and Rene if you can go to the sheet here with the comparison with the red chart on top. I'll just walk you through the line items. Um we'd like to modify the driveway. It's really just about simplification. U when you compare the left it was a little busier I think
would be the word to what our client wants to do. Simplify it on the right. And also too, we were rebuilding columns um that had previously been part of the um existing home when they purchased it. But uh once the client started seeing the simplicity of the design,
appreciating architecture a little bit more, they just want to simplify everything. They didn't think they needed those big heavy columns anymore. Um so the columns would be removed, the turf inlays would be simplified. And then there's a slight modification to the entry steps as well. original design had them right up against the driveway,
which just probably wasn't that functional for trying to get out of a car and even danger. So, we just pushed them westward towards the entry prominade. You can kind of see the difference uh there between the left and the right. And as far as the backyard, we've reduced some hardscape. We had a deck extending from the pergola to the
west and we had stepping stones to the master bedroom. Uh we've removed those. So, we were able to gain some open space as well. Um the bigger part of that I think the request this morning um would be the landscape change. I think the heartscape's pretty minor and the landscape change is really relative to
the south property line. Um there's some existing black olive trees. It's not in the presentation but I did bring some photographs just so you can see them if you don't mind passing around. Great. So there's currently five large black olive trees. Uh, black olive trees
aren't, you know, excuse me for, uh, they're not native. Um, uh, they're not really used in residential applications anymore. They're great for equestrian areas, uh, because they grow really big, uh, tremendous shade and there's a lot of leaf drop and, you know, who cares? The horses doesn't bother them. U, but
we don't use those in residential applications anymore. Uh, just because they're messy and also invasive root systems. So, um, and actually just complete coincidence, um, I ran into my client as I was parking. when she was taking her kids to school. Uh they had a pipe burst on that side of the house. Um
and they were out of town and came back and it flooded their house. So they've got some major repairs. Um the contractor said it was probably maybe a slow leak. They've been going on for a long time. I can't say it's necessarily from the roots, but there's some really weird grading down there. So um you know, it's obviously a problem, but um
so what we'd like to do is remove those and then replace them um with five um green buttwoods. So, we're taking out non-native trees with invasive root systems um that are certainly overgrown. We're going to replace them with five native trees as opposed to four. So, that's really the biggest request. And I
don't believe, unless Rene can correct me, that the neighbor has had any issues with our application, the neighbor to the south. No, we've not heard which would that would be the only one that really affected. So, so that's really the bulk of our request here this morning. So what I it's hard for me
to imagine what it's going to be like. Do you have some kind of rendering? Yes, sir. If we go to the last page, Renee, I think in the last page, do that. I know what it looks like now. Yes, sir. Uh it's very full, very high.
Yeah. Right. Is it going to be a similar one, two, three, four, five? Okay. Right. Right. So, it's four and they're kind of um you know, more spreading. The green buttonwoods are a little bit more vertical um which which I think it helps with the mitigation of the house and also too with keeping it off our
neighbors property. You know, right now we got kind of two landscape companies trimming it. They're trimming our back side, we're trimming the for front side. There's no consistency. These are more conical. So, I think it's going to achieve the the mass mitigation plus stay on our property. So from the east
to west if you look at what presently is there. Yes sir. Um you would take those down and then you would have the same width east or west of of coverage. No no the the the difference is and it's
a good question. Um I'll step away from Mike for a second. The these are the five here. We've we've massed them on the architecture. The current four black olives are spaced farther and the the farthest east one is coming to the road right here, but it doesn't do anything for visibility because it's just
driveway. So, um we don't really need that um screening here. So, uh we condensed it here so we could screen the architecture. I mean, if you felt it was important to add to the east, um I don't think we'd be opposed to it. We didn't
think it was necessary, though. Like when you look at this sheet here, L 2.0 Rene, if you want to go that way, you can see how far east the current trees go. Y and then you can see how we condensed it farther to the west. So there, right, here you go. Thank you,
Rene. Yeah. So here's right architecture and here it grows beyond architecture. So Renee, can you go back to the So what height does that represent in the rendering? In the renderings there,
it probably represents uh 18 feet or so. Um we're buying them at 14 because that's all we can get in this type of conicle shape. Um but um you know, I think by next season they'll be close to that. There's not really any privacy. There's no like strategic windows or
looking on anything. So if you're walking up North County Road, you you can't see from the south looking north. You can't see that house. Not right now. Right. But you will see
it. The there will Sure. There will be some more exposure. For sure. Sure. And also walking the other way. I mean the opposite. Oh yeah, we you'll see the the house is
the neighbor fully aware and they said they have no problem or have they just not said anything? They have not said anything. Notices were sent out as usual and we did not receive any. So I don't know if they got it, trashed it. I don't know anything. Sometimes we hear from
them after after it happens. You Why did you let that happen? Right. because it appears like just based on the I mean based on the renderings and being you know having been at the house before that like there is a it does kind of impede pretty
significantly which could be a positive and that you get a lot more coverage or like a lot more shielding for between the two properties but also a negative and that you know you have your upkeeping for essentially what are your neighbors trees. Yeah. And and I know um the house has been under renovation for
a long a while now and um and so obviously the neighbors are really aware this is a major redo. They haven't had any issues. You know they're friendly. Um but to your point I mean you know once it's gone and oh my goodness maybe I mean you know in the spirit of you
just being a good neighbor I know my client would you know do their best to remedy anything if we had to add some slender palms. you know, if there was any concerns that um you know, I know we would be willing to do that. I just don't probably to your point, the magnitude is not understood till they're
gone. Probably understand that. Uh let's leave that alone for a moment because that's only part of your chain. Let's talk about Yeah. what you're doing in the south. That is the south. I'm sorry, I meant
the east. Okay. On the road. Correct. So um going back to um that sheet rene look at the comparison it's the removal of the columns and simplifying the inlay details. I I happened to look at the presentation
on 11923 um and it it it showed this previous approved plan and what you can't see in this previous approved plan is the height of what you were putting in front of the
road. Yeah. And so now this is totally exposed. The entire house before your previous plan had um colluser in these different spots actually. Well, look at the previous
rendering on the two corners and then in the middle and they were 5t high. And it's a similar um construct that the house to the south has and it breaks you know the view of that all that
hardcape. Um so Trey to me on an additive basis you take out the trees on the south you take out all the proposed the previously approved plan on on the east. I think this should
go back to the commission. So that's not what the commission approves. No, no, sure. Um that this is absolutely something that you can elevate to the commission and it it's within your ability to do making I mean this is this is and the
word minor is exception. Um so this is a whole redo in my mind. It's not few things. It's everything. So I, you know, I we're recommending body. We're not going to
approving body. I'm not comfortable moving. Do you have any direction to the applicant on how to mitigate some of the issues um or guidance? You would be making a recommendation to the commission um if if you wanted to elevate it. So we can,
you know, provide the applicant with some guidance and bring him back before the ARPB and then go to the commission uh or we can, you know, handle it u just via the ARPB at a subsequent meeting if you feel like they've done enough to mitigate
um and see if others on the ARPB agree. Um, the original approved plans I was fine with. And by the way, in the northeast corner, there was some kind of tree previously.
I think it was called Kusive Rosie. I mean, I went back to the original. Yes, sir. You're correct. It was a That's gone. That's sort of disappeared. I don't know how that happens, but um so I I my view is we should and it's
hard for the members here to recall exactly what what it was that you It's been a while. Yeah. Previously had and you know quite frankly if you're going to present a change you show should have shown what you presented to
us and now what you're presenting you know an elevation you're not doing that. So, I'm not sure we can even do that, Dre, because I don't I mean, I know what it looks like as I look back. Um, and that wasn't intentional. I don't
recall if we ever did a rendered elevation from the front. You didn't. You had an aerial view. You had a notation of how high vegetation was, right? Um, so, um, I would agree. I also think some more focus with like drone
photos showing this plan with heights something a little bit more in the technical sense that will help us really evaluate some of the height you know from the south elevation would may I ask if we had um a letter of support from
the neighbor to the south saying I prefer this it's not an issue I mean could that at least bifurcate that one issue happy to go back to the board but I mean um the drone image. I mean, I think it would be good to get the neighbors just given the the current
kind of current setup. That's something that I would find to be because we would start with that. I think that's a good ask and and to your point, we'd be happy to talk to them so they really aware what we're doing. Whether that swings it one way or the other, that's that's a better um argument for us. I think at
least on the like on the on the tree or on the south uh but that's only mitigating one even the front. We're talking about bring it back to us and then back to the full commission. That's what we're understand. I I I just meant coming we would come back in good faith
with that. Relative to the neighbor staff would be happy to reach out directly to them and show them the plans and and have that discussion with them if if that um is acceptable to to the applicant and the the board. North County Road always had its unique
character that one of the features has been vegetation, you know, more so sort of halfway down. Um, and right now when you
drive off A1A and you come into North County Road, uh, your applicant's home is, you know, just hits you and it's just very different and it changes the whole feeling of the street, right, as you come in. Uh and I think
that again this is my perspective. Uh I embrace change. I think change is always necessary. But you know I like to sort of retain some of the that character the landscaping. It's it's just too
radically different. Um, so I I would encourage I I know so I think you really need to come back to AOPD with what you had originally presented so everybody understands what
it is that we approved, what you would like to do and then we can comment as to what we think you should do going forward with the commission. Is that everybody agree with that? and and on
the suggestion of a conversation with the neighbor. I think that's important. Yeah. Sorry to kick it down, man. Frankly, from my perspective, I'd like to see this done because it's been sitting that way for a couple years. Yeah. It's been
I'm sure you'd like to get the project done. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But totally understand. So, I guess we defer it to the next meeting. Uh, yes. So, we would need a motion u to defer to the next meeting and if we
have any additional guidance, we can make that part of the motion. Well, I strongly urge you to come back. I I don't tell you where I'm going to vote. Um I'm not in favor of eliminating all that vegetation in the front. Just
in the in the front. In the front. Okay. Yeah. On the driveway. You know, it needs something. It just totally open and there's so much hardcape. I mean it just your eye sees white white all the way. I mean it's
Mhm. It's it's to me there's I thought the landscaping hadn't been done and what you're suggesting to me it is done and we this is what we want. Well, it's not fully done but but but I hear you. Yeah.
Well, I'd like to make a motion to defer this uh application uh 25-10 on 4120 North County Road till uh the next meeting. Um and we strongly advise the applicant to talk to the
neighbors, get some their views, then come back to us. Thank you. I second. Yes. Mr. Lennon. Yes. Mr. Doy. Yes. Yes. Thank you very much for your time. Appreciate it. Good morning. My name is Luis Rivera
from Affinity Architects and we're going to presenting the home in lot 6, Bluewater Cove. This is an Angloaribbean style home. Uh our next uh slide shows the site plan and the location of the lot uh towards the end of the culde-sac.
Uh next slide uh shows more or less all the elevations of all the other lots that we've uh submitted. Uh our lot is lot six this one here. Um
uh next slide is shows uh the site plan calculations and all the um uh setbacks and um tabulation of all the uh you know requirements. Uh next slide
uh shows the floor plan of the first floor. This is a two-story home. Um the next slide is a second floor. We have two bedrooms on the second floor and we have the h uh the second floor set back
from the sides of the uh first floor. Uh next slide shows the materials and colors that have been selected uh for this uh residence. Um, next
slide shows the rear elevation. Um, with some of the, uh, landscape. Um, this probably doesn't show all the landscape because we're going to present that. We just wanted you to see the architecture out of the rear. Um, next
slide is uh the 2D elevations of both front, rear, and the next one would be the side elevations. And uh from the next one on is going to be the landscape uh plans that will be presented by Louisie
Blahos from a distribute. Good morning. My name is Louis Blahaus, Majestic News Landscape Architect. Um just to bring some of the main features. Uh we have a hedge on the other side of the property line of uh already matured
and and dense uh screening from fishtail palms. Um the three on this side and and five on the other, those are green buttonwoods. They're part of a previous agreement that uh we've installed. And
basically looking from the inside out, we have four Foxtdale palms with uh singles at uh 16 to 18 foot overall uh in front of that. Um two triple Adams on either side just to kind of bring the
outside in. Um, and as far as the understory, the whole residence, this client wanted something clipped and um, simple. So, it's layered with um, not large stuff, but uh, dwarf pa carpus,
Pringles, uh, carissa, ficas, green island, and jasmine minima. The flowering plants that we have there is a couple of bogen villas on either side of the pool. Kept them away from the pool so the blooms don't fall into the water. And then behind it underneath the three
foxtail palms, those are cord lines uh ties. Um and as far as the the a couple of agave, blue agave uh in between and the other stuff is basically jasmine uh
minima and ficus green island on either side in the front. Um before we go up against the building, I just wanted to note that we have uh uh the two streetscape oaks as indicated here and here. And uh we also added uh this is a
previously approved large uh sea grid 18 foot overall on the right. And we proposed to add uh another one to to the west to the left of it to just kind of block that uh bowling alley, you know, view that goes all the way to the back.
And I think both of them together will work uh perfect. And with the size um a couple of uh clusia trees uh on either side of the driveway and a contiguous hedge that will block that to minimize the driveway effect. We're proposing for
uh any additional parking to be in the form of u uh grass and that's to the right right there. And that's not, you know, going to be used all the time, just uh whenever they have guests or whatever. Uh as far as the rest of the front, we
we have some small topiary Japanese uh uh blue blueberries 10 to 12 feet uh accenting the uh front elevation. Uh three large uh foxtail palm single again 16 to 18 foot. Um couple of bogenas
here. And then again, the flowering plants are basically, we're showing them in red, but they're white hibiscus. You know, they weren't really into a lot of color. Um, fcus green island carissa layered um holl. Um, that's it.
And as you can see, we kind of squared the layout of the design because it kind of also works well with the uh uh simple layered effect that the current owner requested. Uh the other thing you mentioned current
owner is is it a under contract for a a family? Yes. Yes. Oh, this is a custom. It's it's not a uh it's not a a model or anything like that. The applicant is Blue Water Cove LLC. Yes. Okay. But it's
under contract to be sold this. Okay. Can you go back to those elevations uh on the landscaping, please? Oh, by the way, the the hedges on the east and west uh are currently approved and will be installed before. So we will have
mature on the west side uh Clusia hedge that we've been proposing and on the east side uh we're coming in with 10 foot overall califilm hedge so there won't be any issues with either owner uh east or west which is lot six
and I'm sorry lot five and lot seven you go back to the previous here's the front right here you go back to the previous a so Um the upper elevation there's a sort of a gap there.
Um it just strikes me as a gap where to the left of the collection of those trees where the two windows are here. Yeah. Um we didn't feel there. I I think there's uh there's an avocado tree on on
the owner on the other side. Uh that's why we didn't deem it necessary, you know, to put that there. That makes sense. Um, thank you. It would have been an overload. Yes. And there's the two seat grapes right there. This is obviously on the
neighbor side, lot seven, and that is lot six right there. There's no questions on the landscaping. Can we go back to the architectural aspect of the house? Just one question for the grass that you're using for additional parking. Is that
are you looking to use artificial turf or real grass for that? Uh real grass. Will it just be grass or will it have the the concrete? It has this uh permeable. It's like a grid, right? So cars can handle the weight. Yeah. Well,
not that grass dies when you compact it, you know. So it basically will keep the weight of the car and the wheels from compacting the grass uh the root system of the grass. Is that Do have we approved this before or is this I
don't believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Do we have remember Okay. I mean a designated parking area. Yes. Uhhuh. So So you're It's kind of like a motor cord is what you're doing.
Well, it's to the side of the It's not part of the driveway. It's just to the side. And it's Yeah. And it's hidden by the landscape. So, uh, and what Lou is talking about is, uh, the the grid prevents the grass from dying. Yeah.
It's basically I'm very familiar with this. Yeah. This area, right? Yeah. Well, you know, we we like more parking on the property than less. and it doesn't look like hardcape, so it's kind of a win-win. Yeah.
Um, any other comments or questions? U, so go back to the presentation on itself. Um the former chairman of the ARPD had recommended that I think you have something that tries to get at because
of this I can't think of an appropriate term in the development. You know we have the houses lined up like soldiers. Um the houses to
the east and west um are they architecturally and single or one story? I I can't tell from Okay, good. Okay, so the house that we're looking at just it's it's this one right here. For some reason it looks blurry,
but to the side you'll have Yes, I remember that one. Yeah. And then this one is a one story. Okay. Yeah. Uh that we contrast with that and uh obviously Okay. Yeah, that's very helpful because it changes how you're breaking up. Thank
you. Sure. And it looks like staff, you you guys, you don't believe there's excessive similarity. You took a hard look at that. No, that's correct. Yeah. Very good. Okay.
On the west side, is that an outdoor garden? I can't tell what that there's some fixture. Is that trellising or? No, no trellising. Uh is a 4ft high wall. It's outside from a master uh bedroom. There's a 6ft um photo carpet hedge
around it that would be installed at that height for privacy and just a little um outdoor textural garden area for the owners to look from the inside out. Okay. And from a setback perspective, there's no issue with
walls. It's just a wall. So, correct. Okay. Good presentation. Thank you. Um, may I have a motion? Yes. I'll uh make a motion to recommend approval of a level three architectural site plan based on a finding that the
construction of a 5,733t Anglo Caribbean style twostory single family dwelling with a 2 and a half car garage and swimming pool including new landscape and hardscape meets the minimum intent of the design manual and applicable review standards
with the following condition. One, any minor modifications to approve landscaping shall be submitted to the town manager for review and approval and any major modification shall be brought back to the ARP for review and approval prior to commencement of landscaping.
Second, Mrs. Yes. Mr. Glennon, yes. Mr. Dockerty, yes. Chairman Lions, yes. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good day. Um, any items from that?
Uh, not necessarily. We did have or we may have a conversation at the town commission about artificial turf. So, I just want you to be aware of that. We did see an application today. Uh, there may be discussion at the town commission level that refers that for consideration
to the ARPB to maybe adjust or look at what our artificial turf requirements are. So just um you know that may be something that we discuss next month but that's to be determined. I I was impressed by this sample that we saw today uh and the features of that.
Um and I don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject but seems like a good way to go and we can encourage if that's the right way to go we we encourage people to go in that direction. Um because that I mean that sample is Yeah. It was
really nice. It looked very gorgeous. He said it was the most expensive they've come across. Well, like most things in life, you know. Oh, I just was highlighting. Yeah. But but that was an example of what you were talking about earlier. The site plans that were
approved had all natural grass in that backyard. So when we went there, they had that in. And so that's when we said, "Nope, you're going to have to come back to ARPB." Which one? the uh one on in on Avenue. Okay. The comp Yeah. Was it the
week? The week. So there was, you know, whether it's, you know, the mayor's letter or just the scuttlebutt around town about artificial turf is now allowed. Sometimes the owners don't necessarily reach out to town hall first and just figure, oh well, artificial
turf is allowed. Great. Let me do my entire backyard. So, uh, you know, Mr. Beltran uh saw that uh artificial turf being installed. The owner uh Mr. Weekes called me. We had a discussion about what may be permitted or not. He
installed it consistent with the code because his guys were already there. I said, you know, we don't really like you to do it before getting approval. It's up to you. Um you know, so even though like Mr. Dunham said, there was artificial turf installed there. You know, there was maybe just some uh some
misunderstanding. Uh and hopefully as we see more application for artificial turf coming before the board, the residents are going to understand that yes, well, you do have to reach out to town hall first, which is always good advice. Um I have a few comments. Um do you have
any other thoughts from today's meeting? Um so today we had two applications where people submitted their original plans and just ignored them. Um, and I don't I don't know what we're going to do about that, but and also, you know,
there's got to be careful how I put this. There were some things that were supposed to be happening and they sort of just disappeared. And unless you go back to the record, you don't know. And I find that troublesome. I mean, we have
to police it. So with with many of those applications, you know, Mr. Dunham and a member of staff does a final walk through before permit close out. So that would have been caught and we would either require them if they're minor changes, moving a
window, you know, moving a tree from one spot to another, changing the species that staff can do on a staff level, we will review it, make them put in a level one application and then release the application for final uh building code or final zoning review. This would have
been an instance where, you know, if Mr. Dunham went out, he would have seen significant changes and we would have required him to come back. So there is a stop gap that it's not just going to get done and we're never going to look at it again. Uh but but that is an issue that we're seeing. Uh we saw it um down um in
Driftwood Landing where you know the the architect has specifically been told a number of times that there was too much glass in the door. Adjust the door. Adjust the door. ARPB talked about it. The town commission talked about it. And then it goes for permit. And then you have the builder that doesn't really
know all that the architect was chastised over, maybe the owner. So, they put in a totally different door that has more glass. And now we're fighting when when the when the the entire permit is ready and he's ready to move in, but we have a door that's totally inconsistent with our approvals
that looks nice, but is inconsistent and has more glass. So, um, you know, there is, you know, sometimes that miscommunication between the builder and the architect. So we just need to, you know, do our best to to make sure that, you know, everything is getting from the
architect to the owner to the builder and, you know, resolved that they had to change the door. Yeah. They right they they reduce the amount of glass and we were we we were uh found that to be acceptable. Yeah. So but but we you know
we do catch things. that I mean there were there was a house over there the owner's name I won't mention but uh when we got over there to begin to look at the they were just starting putting in their landscaping
and so I was with another staff person I don't remember and we just stopped and we're looking at it and it didn't me it wasn't anything like what was approved uh this was actually level three And uh
so we stopped them and said, "You got you can't go on with this." And so they had to go back to their original plan. Actually, I even liked the the the plan they were putting in a little better than what was approved, but it hadn't
been approved. So some sometimes we're able to catch and I I don't mean to pick on one example, but um Mr. Dustin Meisel, he decided to make a bunch of changes to the original plan
and in his view they were better and let's say they were better. Um, doesn't he understand that it was a plan he's going to follow? So, a consequently, you know, it's going to get delayed by another two or three months. Sure.
Okay. Um, enough on that subject. Uh there's no other comments. I'll close the meeting. Thank you. [Music]