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Part 1 (Video ID: NNLFPmwAlXo):
- 00:02:19: Meeting Call to Order, Pledge, Roll Call, Agenda
- 00:04:41: Officer Honored for Life-Saving Heimlich Maneuver
- 00:07:38: Public Comment and Golf Club Presentation Begins
- 00:13:54: Architectural Design of Golf Club Additions Described
- 00:21:11: Landscape Architecture Plans and Commisioner Comments
- 00:23:53: Motion to Approve Golf Club Project and Move On
- 00:25:14: Town Manager CIP Update on Roadway Project Issues
- 00:27:48: Loan Discussion: Town Reserves and CIP Financing
- 00:31:32: Commission Reaches Consensus, Extends Loan Draw Period
- 00:33:30: Coquina Stone Street Marker Update; Cleaning Success
- 00:35:17: Underground Electrical Feeder Installation Update and Discussion
- 00:37:26: ARPB Meeting Date, Finances Report, Police Activity Report
- 00:40:09: Change Orders Discussion: CIP Project Modifications
- 00:57:10: Change Orders Approved, One Postponed to a Later Time
- 00:58:47: Little Club Easement Drainage, Sales Tax Account Closing
- 01:00:36: Ordinance 26-1 Second Reading Discussion and Approval
- 01:03:54: Ordinance 26-2 First Reading Discussion and Approval
- 01:05:30: Resolution 26-3 Discussion and Approval
- 01:06:48: Three Check Valves, Drainage Outfalls: Motion to Approve
- 01:08:40: Discussion on Section 70-73, Two-Story Structures Setbacks


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You got the working Renee? >> We are good to go. >> Are they good? >> Mhm. >> Great. Let's call the meeting to order. Please rise and pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Green, >> here. >> Commissioner Canfield, here. >> Commissioner Orwine, >> here. >> Vice Mayor Stanley

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>> here. Also present and participating today is town manager Nazaro, CFO Imaster Chief Jones, and myself. >> Thank you very much. We've had the minutes presented from our last meeting in April. Are there any corrections, comments, changes, or a motion?

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>> Uh motion to approve the minutes of the meeting at April 10th, 2026. >> Second. >> Miss Bas. >> Commissioner Green. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Canfield. Yes. >> Commissioner Orwine. Yes. Vice Mayor Stanley. Mayor Morgan. >> Yes. Uh, any changes to the agenda, Mr. Nazaro?

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>> Thanks, Mayor. We're going to add a presentation by Chief Jones under announcements D, and we're going to arrange items for commission action A to L, installation of three check valves.

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>> Very good. Uh, our next meeting is June 12th at 9:00 a.m. for anyone who wishes to attend. Uh, we have attended a budget meeting on September 11th. U statutoily required at 5:01 p.m. with a final budget meeting date to be determined.

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>> Mayor, I need to decide that date today. I have either the 22nd or 23rd. It's a Tuesday or a Wednesday >> for the uh the final >> final. Okay. >> So, if y'all could >> um >> calendars if you want to just let me know. >> Why don't we work on that one later? It's kind of >> Yep. You can just let me know. I just

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have to >> Yep. >> Okay. >> You can look at your calendars. Let me know by the end of next week which date works better. Let's talk which day works best for everybody if you happen to know. >> Wednesday. >> Wednesday. >> What was it? What was the date? Right.

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>> 23rd is the Wednesday. >> 20 link. Wednesday is better than a Tuesday. >> Yeah. This for automaker work. So, >> all right. So, that means the final budget meeting will be September 23rd. Yes. >> A Wednesday at 5:01 p.m. >> Uh, Chief Jones.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Now manager, if you could please join in the podium, I would appreciate it. So, everyone's probably wondering why law enforcement is so present in the meeting today. Um, on April 16th at

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about 8:10 a.m., we had an officer doing school detail at the Gfream School working the actual front gate area. That was officer S Sutton, who's present in the room. And about 8:10 he heard some commotion in the vehicle line and he thought maybe two kids were just arguing

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but it was holding up the line. So he started in that direction and as he reached the vehicle he realized that a child was choking inside the car and without hesitation uh performed the Heimlick maneuver several times until he was able to dislodge that object from

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that 11-year-old's uh throat. Ended up being some string cheese. Um, so with that being said, um, we don't know what the outcome would have been if the officer wasn't present. Um, obviously in a situation like that, even as parents,

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we sometimes freeze up when it's our own children. But, um, it was, in my opinion, a heroic action, even though he doesn't see it that way. Um, you know, he he didn't want recognition because that's the kind of man he is. Um, but he deserves it and he's going to

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be honored today with the life-saving award. So, Todd, if you would please come up. Uh, thank you. I'll make this fast. I have done the school detail in the morning countless times over the years. It's usually a very uneventful

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thing to do. Uh, this day was a little different. Um, but I'm just happy that the child is okay and that I was in the right place at the right time. That's all I can say. Thank you. >> Thank you again. And uh, yes, you easier

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to probably. >> Thank you. All right. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mayor. Well, Todd, on behalf of the town, we want to congratulate you uh for your courage uh for your sense of duty and for the honor that you bring not only to

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the police department of Gfream, but uh to our town. So, congratulations and thank you very much. Great >> question. All right, let's move on. Public comment. Anyone wish to speak? Okay, even with a full house. Uh let's move on then. Uh anyone who will be

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speaking today on the application 26-4, please rise and be sworn. >> All right. Very good. Uh we have an application uh for the GFream Golf Club. Uh who's going to speak? Good morning. Jamie Gavigan from Shuts

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and Bowen on behalf of the Gfream Golf Club. Uh it's always good to be back in these chambers. It's been a year and a couple years ago I used to work at Jones Foster and represented the the town. So it's a pleasure to be back. Um I will briefly introduce the project and go over the requests and then I'll turn it

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over to Charlotte Herza uh from Spino who will go over the architecture. Um I'll try to keep it brief. Uh we were here if you remember a year ago in June of 20 June of 2023. So time flies a couple years ago. Uh where this project the

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renovations to the Gulf Stream Golf Club were approved by this commission. Um when that was approval happened, it was it was approval for a new uh two-story addition to the souththeast portion of the clubhouse. Um

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along with the variance uh to move the addition to have the addition be within the the setback. It's a typically it's a 25 foot setback from the CCCL line, coastal construction control line. uh and you granted a a variance to allow

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allow the club to build, you know, within within that variance. So that was that was granted. Um so we're here today 3 years later proposing some modifications uh to the clubhouse. Upon further review, we we've come back. Um,

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so I will go over briefly uh the requests and then specifically the special exception setback that we're requesting and I'll go over that and then and then Charlotte will go over the architecture. So, you know, we're here for three things. a demolition permit for the for

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the model the site demolition to to allow for the the improvements uh a level three architectural site plan review and then the special exception setback which I uh discussed. Go to the next slide. >> It has a little delay on it just so you know.

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>> Okay. Um go one more slide please. See if you can go one more. Not sure if you can see it. Can you zoom in? >> Yeah. >> So you see in the, you know, what we're really talking about for the special exception setback. And so a special

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exception setback is because we have an approval with a variance for having that addition into the, you know, than would be allowed by code where it was previously 25 ft from the the setback

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line. Now it's 11 ft. Um that's that's been we've we've talked to to uh town council. That's approved and that's now the the setback line, the the legal non-conforming setback. So this right here where you see this red line, that

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was what was approved in 2023. So we were allowed to have we were approved to have the addition go to that as far east as that. As you see, it came out and then it notched it. What we're proposing today is the gray square. So in

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actuality, we're we're reducing the setback. We're increasing the setback from the ocean. We're moving this the addition, you know, landward away from the ocean. So we're reducing the setback that we requested previously. We're just we're just filling out that notch. So we're we're we're you know increasing

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the length. So that's all we're doing. It's a very slight modification. It's not a variance. It's simply to uh to address from that. So we're actually reducing the square footage of the addition, but we're just bringing that addition a little bit further north. So

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um that's that's what we're proposing. Um it's you know it meets I put in the justification statement and then the the staff report goes over uh the criteria for a a special exception setback at 7075 in the town code. We meet all those

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requirements. I can go over them specifically but um but both staff uh believes that we comply with it. And and just to give some context before I turn it over to Charlotte about the golf club and I I mentioned this a couple years ago for those of you that were on the

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commission, the golf the Gulf Stream Golf Club presents a unique set of circumstances for the town. As you're all aware, the club is is one of the most iconic and culturally important buildings in all of Palm Beach County. It was a Meisner design from the 1920s. It's a it's a classic significantly

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important building. When Meisner built the club, the town didn't even wasn't even incorporated. So, it was built before the town existed and there was no code. There were no setbacks. So, when Meisner built this, they didn't they didn't say you could build it so far from the ocean or not. Um, if Meisner

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knew that there were setbacks, maybe he would have built the club a little further west or a little bit further away from the ocean. Um, in the town, there is no historical landmarking ordinance, but the club has committed to making sure that we preserve this iconic building. Um

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but clubs, you know, so but clubs will be outdated if you don't make slight modifications to make sure that they're usable for the members as they go forward. So we're trying to the goal here is to preserve the the existing Meisner design and make whatever the

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modifications necessary so that the members and people that are using the building can can use it and and enjoy it for the next hundred years. Um so that's just kind of the context. So, uh, if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer those. But with that, I'll turn it over to Charlotte, who will go over some of

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the architecture of the addition of the additions and the improvements to the to the club. >> Good morning. >> Thank you for having us. Uh, like Jamie Jamie said, this project is really special for us and we are honored to be part of it and also club to entrust us

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to design this um addition to create more space for its members. If we could start over from the beginning um where the location map is. Yeah. So, as you can see, it's right on the ocean east of Jimmy Buffett Memorial

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Highway. Next slide. Here you can see the south elevation. Um you can see the existing terrace is covered with with an awning and um arrival is also covered with an awning. And then east right here is the one we are proposing to demolish. This is not a

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original misner design. It was built later in 1980s. Um instead of that we'll extend it um create this similar structure addition but extended almost 10 ft uh closer to the ocean. Next

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slide. This is existing site plan. You can see where the awnings are and then the east edition in that corner. Next slide. Um as Jamie mentioned, the red outline represents the previously approved um

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addition set um footprints and we made conscious effort to stay within this boundary. Uh even though we reduced the addition much significantly on the at the arrival we are increasing the footprint but previously approved plans

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were proposing a hard structure. We are proposing light aluminum structure at canvas awning to allow uh for a porticochet that would fit two cars. We're pushing the portico share uh

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frather south so that you will see in the next slide that we are created a new entrance on the south side that would make members to choose to use the new entrance. Next slide. Here is the east edition that we are

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proposing to demolish and the extent of awnings. Next slide. In proposed plan, we we are showing the new entrance on the south side and arrival where Portico is. So you can see it goes straight down to the new entrance right here

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where members can easy access from the golf course and also go to the lockers and access the new bar and boardrooms. Uh new loia is almost the same size as what covered terrace um is currently at the club.

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Uh the new east uh addition has a new bar and boardroom and previously approved plan shown in red. Next slide. That is existing second floor. Um and

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then the proposed second floor shows covered southairs. Um it's open to elements but we are proposing uh concealed roll down shutters so that members could dine uh comfortably during the windy days as

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well. Um east terrace is open to sky u it's very similar to what misner originally had in his design before the ocean room was built on top of it later in 18 no 1929. Next slide.

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This is just a roof plan existing I proposed. So we have new roof for the south edition. Next slide. Here you can see our approach in uh to design. Uh the building is not landmarked officially but we think it's

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it is a true landmark in town of Gulf Stream and we want to create to treat it that way with such a respect and care. So we d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d dug into historic drawings and historic photographs from Meisner's era and we

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incorporated a lot of architectural elements which are already found throughout the club. For example, the uh blank window recesses over here that we are incorporating in the existing dining room. You'll see in the renderings

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later. Um we are using the same ballister railing um to keep the same proportions. We um we're going to mount them on a curb because at that time uh the railing was much lower and doesn't meet the current building code. Um we

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are using the same rafter tails um also found in historic drawings and then shampered columns and curtain uh curtain arches were inspired from the ground floor hall. And then also we are

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wrapping the new addition um beams in woods to match the um covered walkway up up to the club from the on the north side of the arrival. Next slide.

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And here you can see 3D drawing drawings uh showing everything I just described. Our goal was to make sure that we don't overpower the main structure with the addition but more more like complement it.

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And here you can see the new east edition and this is part of the south edition. And here you can see the recesses I was talking about like right there. With that, I'll turn over to Daniel from

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NA Williams Design. He will talk about landscape architecture. Thank you. >> What sort of shutters? You talked about wind um some sort of is it glass or is it a shutter of some sort that would protect the the the diners during times

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of high wind? Did you mention something like that? Yes, we we already have um we the club members went to visit other clubs we worked on and uh we are proposing two different um roller shutters in the same casing. One is

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lighter, one is thicker and together both of them create such a like a shelter from the wind. We were talking about we're thinking about ice and glass but it's quite unpleasant to look at. So we are still thinking which way to go.

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Would those be mounted on the outside or the inside? >> On the inside. Okay. >> So, it will be concealed up here under the beam on the inside and then there will be track and the columns that will hold screen uh fast and it will go all

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the way down behind the ballister alley. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions before we move on to landscaping? >> Okay. Thanks. >> Thank you. Good morning. Daniel I with Williams Design. I think the general ethos of

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this project was to respect the historic value of everything and it goes through architecture and landscape architecture. Um one of the main things as we come into the property is we're proposing this port of cashier covered in this awning. Um that way once members come in

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they can valet and whether it's you know if the weather is not being very friendly that day and it's raining you're still protected. As we traverse onto the west side of the yes the west side of the addition we are proposing this pattern that sort of guides your

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eye into the new entry hall and to the ocean loa. That way you can traverse it whichever way fits you best. We're also proposing new golf cart parking areas and we're actually separating them. Currently, the golf carts and the cars

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all sort of mingle in the same area and that can cause some conflict. So, we're separating that. So, you have your golf cart section, we have your car section. That way, there's no issues. Um, we're extending this paving area right here in

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order to help to address some bottlenecks. There's there's a existing staircase right here and oftent times people are leaving dinner, they're leaving drinks at the bar or something like that and they can kind of pull right there. So extending that paving

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and help address that um bottleneck. And then as far as planting material, it's all very hearty Florida natives. The base is you see in the shade of green. It would be a green

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island ficus sort of doing the base of everything else and different Florida natives scattered throughout this beautiful massing of plantings. And then I think one thing that's very important to the club and to everybody else is

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this existing silver buttonwood hedge that we're keeping and we're just sort of replacing a little bit of it and kind of guiding it through that new parking lot of golf carts. But for the most part um yeah that is

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it. Any questions? >> Questions on landscape? Thank you. >> Thank you very much. uh comments. I mean, it's a it's a beautiful redesign. Um and I'm sure with landscaping and everything else, it's

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going to be absolutely gorgeous. Uh so, it's nice to finally have this brought to us for uh completion. Uh are there any motions? >> Uh sure. So, we've got three motions. Uh, first motion is a motion to recommend approval of a demolition

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permit to demolish the boardroom and terrace on the southeast corner of the existing clubhouse. >> And apologies about that. That is not a recommendation. It is the final final appro. >> Sorry. >> Yeah. >> Second. >> Commissioner Green. Yes.

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>> Commissioner Canfield. Yes. >> Commissioner Orwine. Yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley. Yes. >> Mayor Morgan. >> Yes. Uh second motion is uh motion in the affirmative motion to approve of the special exception to permit an addition to a structure with an existing non-conforming setback under section

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7075 C. >> Second. >> Commissioner Green, >> yes. >> Commissioner Canfield, yes. >> Commissioner Orwin, yes. Vice Mayor Stanley, yes. >> Mayor Morgan, >> yes. Uh third motion is the motion to to approve uh a level three architectural site plan review to permit the

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construction of a new south and east additions to the existing clubhouse and the modifications uh to the front yard the member arrival of new canvas awning and certain landscape and hardscape changes. >> Second spasel >> commissioner green. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Canfield. >> Yes.

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>> Commissioner Orline. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley. >> Yes. >> Mayor Morgan. >> Yes. >> Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Let's move on. Town manager reports CIP update. >> Thank you, mayor. Uh this month, Railway

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performed various minor activities such as drain repair and patchwork, herb repair, sod insulation, and watering the installed sod. This week, we had a walkthrough of phase one to identify the few remaining items there. Um, we still have some outstanding issues to be

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addressed from the resident concern log that our engineers have been tracking. So, they're they're on top of that. Uh, for phase two, driveway irrigation and drainage structures are being inspected. Um, the $12.9 million question is when are we going to have the second lift of

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asphalt on? So, I did email the president of roadway, Sylvio Ruby, who did not provide an anticipated date for completion after I asked uh and instead took issue with the town permitting roadway special permission outside of the contract to put the second lift of asphalt down on phase one before

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completing phase two. So, we are currently um sort of um arguing over that even though it's very clear in the contract. Our engineers have been very consistent for several months. uh we are holding them to the contract requirements to finish all of the project and then do the final lift of

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asphalt for the entire project. Um so again without the president's you know I I went up as high as I could go and to get that information that is the question that everyone's asking. Um and I don't have any uh further information than uh what I've been provided. I'm at

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the mercy of the contractor and they're just not giving me that information. uh the phase one uh what we called punch list items was actually more than that. Uh has that been completed or at least substantially completed? >> Uh yes they so with the walkthrough we

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have identified a few minor issues that need to be addressed for phase one but they're very close >> and so now they're working on the phase two items. Correct. >> That's correct. Yes sir. >> Very good. Uh, okay. Let's move on then to the loan discussion with uh I'm sorry just one question. Is the resident

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concern log is it is it five items Trey or is it is it 50 or does it sit? >> No. Sure. Um I mean there are a few but it's it's small items like um a resident replaced their mailbox and we're waiting for roadway to pay them for it. I mean,

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so it's not necessarily it's really just everything that could possibly need to be resolved as part part of that phase one project. Any other questions? Okay. Very good. Uh the loan discussion. Um Mr. Nazara and Mr. Bak. >> Okay. If I could just have you pass it

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out. So I'm I'm just passing out something that uh Mark has prepared uh regarding our um our this this loan discussion. It's called estimate of debt financing. So in June 13th of last year, the town entered into an agreement with C Co Coast National Bank for a loan of

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up to $7 million to ensure the town's reserves did not go lower than $4 million during the remainder of the CIP. Uh that was a policy decision by the commission. So we've identified that as a critical number in our loan discussions. Worth noting that is well in excess of the minimum uh recommended

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by the government finance officers association. So we're we're prudent in uh in setting that $4 million uh mark. Uh the terms of the note included a 12-month draw period which does expire next month uh at a 5.32% annual interest

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rate. The town has made no draws on that other than the required $50,000 initial draw. costs attributable to the note and fees are 29,500 which we've already paid a loan origination fee and legal expenses. Uh contract CFO Mark Bmaster

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has analyzed the town's finances and we met with the town's engineer to estimate the remaining cost to finish what remains of the 10-year CIP. So that is um that on your spreadsheet that's after the the top set. We have the general fund and capital projects fund. So those

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are our estimated reserves at the top. And then as you come down on the right, we have uh the remaining expenses. We've already paid $12.9 million toward the core area project. So our reserves uh are only impacted by what remains of a a

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budgeted or anticipated $1.5 million. The cost remaining to connect to Boon Beach water is $1.8 million. Engineering and construction for the place project is $4 million. And the final phase of the CIP for the south end of town at

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Hidden Harbor in Driftwood Landing is that $928,000 figure. Mark also included a $1.5 million additional contingency to cover additional unknown costs associated with these projects. So this was our reserves

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as of April 30th uh of this year. So, if all those projects were done and payment was due immediately, the town would still have $1.9 million in reserves, requiring a loan of only $2.1 million to keep the town's reserves at $4 million. However, other than the balance due on

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the current core CIP, none of these projects have even started. And while I have had several discussions about the next phase of the CIP in place, the town has yet to approve our engineers to start that design work. that engineering work will likely be payable over this

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and the next budget year starting October. And after finalizing that next phase and putting out the bid, the town will start making payments in late fiscal year 2627 in the spring and summer of next year and into fiscal year 2728. Um, also the remainder of the Boon Beach

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connection fees will do when that connection is made, which is anticipated again next budget year in April or May of 27, and that will come from the water fund. Of course, the South N CIP is still several years away, scheduled after the conclusion of the place else

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lay CIP. So, because of this time delay, Mark believes the loan is not needed at this time, if ever, to maintain that $4 million threshold. And if we were to draw any money on the loan now, we would just paying interest unnecessarily while maintaining healthy reserves well in excess of the $4 million.

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So, with that, if you do have any specific questions of Mark, uh, but at this point, um, we're we're, uh, we're probably going to, uh, not take anything out. Perhaps as a contingency, maybe ask the bank to extend the draw period for an initial 12 months just for insurance

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purposes. Uh, but really, it looks like based on the financial position of the town, that will not be needed. >> Questions for u for Mark? I mean, it's it's this is great news. um because it's what we had always intended

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to do was to not have to borrow money for these projects to pay for them as we go and maintain solid reserves. And I think given the uh the excellent financial management uh uh that we've we've had with Mark and Trey and and

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Greg um we are still in a position to do that. Remarkably, um favorable result, I must say. So, uh, they're looking for consensus from us. It's not a motion, but, uh, I I don't think we need to borrow any

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money. >> I agree. >> Agreed. >> And see if we can get an extension for 12 months from the bank in case we we do. There remains outstanding the the legislative property tax changes uh, which could impact this, but right now

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it's all hypothetical. So, I think we have to to move forward based on the information that we have. on the on the possibly renegotiating the terms of the note with the uh with the uh lender.

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Do we need to do we have to come back and approve any change if it's tenatively agreed if there's any success with that other than just terminating the note? >> So, we would probably want to bring it back for um for commission approval to extend that based on what the the bank says.

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So, the potential for a special meeting or we don't know yet. >> Um, I believe our June meeting uh our June meeting is the 12th and we would need to pull the trigger by the 13th. So, we would not need a special meeting. >> Okay, >> good. Uh, all right. Thank you very

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much. Uh, let's move on then to the Coina Stone Street marker update. U Miss Basil, >> I have pictures to show you. So, at the last meeting, um I told you we were going to hire the guy. He was excellent.

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He even taught our um public works director how to clean them going forward so he wouldn't have to come down from Mormon Beach with the special solutions needed. So, here is a couple of pictures of before. Hopefully,

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So, if she can't get them up, you can see them in the latest edition of the Gulfream Chronicle, which will be sent out next week. And we did have a presentation on the uh the uh monument signs at the uh 5:30 and

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formal meeting a week or two ago as well. So, They look good. You can actually see the signs. They look really good. They're really pop. Now, >> you're not going to see pictures. >> Okay. Oh, go out and look at them on the screen. Uh we we have been struggling

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with how to clean those for years. Um we've tried absolutely everything. Anthony um Elrren tried every possible chemical solution. Could not clean them. So Renee found this company and they did an outstanding job. Who knows what they

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did, but it looks great. Anyways, thank you very much, Renee. Um, underground electrical feeder installation for the the pumps, Mr. Nazaro. >> Thank you, mayor. So, last month, the commission approved a quote from

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American Lighting for $72,576 to repair the town's electric electrical infrastructure that was damaged by roadway during construction. It supplies power to our storm storm water lift pumps at Polo Drive and Old School Road.

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Roadway were told that they had 30 days to correct the damage or we would perform the work and withhold se uh the $72,000 from final payment. Uh roadway subcontractor has since come in and done some work and believes the issue to be corrected. We are working with American

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Lighting to confirm the work that was performed has fixed the issue. So, at this point, um, you know, we're not moving forward with that $72,000. So, there's some cost savings there. Um, or, you know, we won't have to worry about trying to go after the contractor for that, but we're still just making sure

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that the the work was done properly and corrected the issue. >> So, the lines have been fed to the pumps, correct? >> Uh, Chief, if you want to elaborate. So, uh, with roadway having access to what they were digging in and the areas

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they were digging in, they were able to locate what they believe was the section of damaged line and do repairs to those lines. What we're asking American Lighting to do is to come in and actually Meg test those lines to verify that the current capability is what we

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need it to be and that there's not any other damage that's unknown or not discovered by their repairs. >> But the lines are connected and functioning right now. >> So, one pump that was working previously remains working now. Um, but we remember

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we have two new pumps that aren't in the ground yet. So the other pump that wasn't working remains still not working, but it may not be a result. >> You want to wait until uh the lines are verified as it's being viable and then install the new pumps. >> Correct. And and we've obviously we're

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starting that process by looking into the wells and the rails that are in the wells and all of the infrastructure that's there to make sure that that new pump installation is going to be done accurately and correctly so that we don't have any issues moving forward.

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>> Great. Okay, thanks very much. Uh, ARPB meeting will be May 28th at 8:30 for anyone who wishes to attend. Uh, finance report. Um, Mr. Nisaro, >> you've been presented with the finance report. I ask that it be accepted as submitted.

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>> Questions on uh, town's finances. Very good. Accept that as submitted. Chief, activity report for April. >> Good morning and thank you again for the opportunity to present. I just ask that you accept the report that's been submitted. There's nothing unusual uh in

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the report that needs to be uh spoken about. But as a result of some activity we've had this week, I'll give you a very brief uh synopsis of that as many of you probably were either aware of uh involved in or observed uh the the

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incident. Uh on Tuesday morning um I'm sorry two Tuesday afternoon about 2 pm there was a vehicle that was stolen from the city of Delray Beach uh at the gas station. We were notified that vehicle was going northbound into our jurisdiction and that the driver

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appeared to be intoxicated and was operating in an extremely careless manner. Uh we discovered her entering our town in about the 12,200 block of North Ocean and attempted to use stopsticks on three different occasions to uh immobilize her vehicle.

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Ultimately, two stop sticks were effective uh and we were able to get her slowed down to a safe speed where we were able to perform a uh pursuit intervention technique to disable the vehicle and apprehend her. This incident

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came to a conclusion at about uh Juniper Drive in Briny Breezes where she was um observed fleeing from the vehicle on foot and was briefly um pursued until she was apprehended. Uh she was arrested and obviously is

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currently in jail with no bond. Um during the incident, she attempted to to drive actually towards me while I was deploying stopsticks and was driving in a manner that was extremely reckless and careless all over the roadway. We had pedestrians, bicyclists, everybody in

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the area. Um so we took as immediate action as we could. We pretty much from the start to the finish, uh the incident didn't last five minutes. Um but just wanted to obviously brief you and make you aware of it. We did have some damage

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to um some of our vehicles, but it's insignificant and repairs are already underway. So, >> very good. Thank you, Chief. All right, let's move on then to items for commission action. We have u five change

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orders all relate to the CIP project. Is that correct, Mr. Nazaro? >> Yes, sir. And we've got Rick Chipman here from Baxterwoman to answer any questions. Let's talk about uh each one of them before we uh before we conclude, discuss and vote instead of going on

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each one. >> Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, commission. Would you like me to describe each one individually? >> Yeah, let's just talk about each one. Let us know what you're recommending, what what each uh change order is for.

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Okay, the first one is change over 15. You should have that in front of you. Um that is for the modifications of various structures uh in the project. As you know, uh this project had a lot of he

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experienced a lot of conflicts, underground conflicts. um whether it be uh you know existing uh FPL lines uh uh communication lines uh whatever it may

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be underground um which required during the installation of of the storm system um the contractor could not install height at a particular level because of a conflict or he could not install a

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structure in particular a spot designated for it because of an unknown uh conflict and all these conflicts that I'm talking about are unknown conflicts and so various structures had to be modified in order

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to make them work. Um earlier on in the project um we came we discussed what the contractor's cost to modify structures when this happened and and generally uh the way that the contractor priced them

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was uh used for all the modifications. Uh oftent times uh a modifications required the shutdown of a crew for an entire day or loss of production for an entire day while a crew would come in

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and uh saw cut side of the storm structure so that they could either lower or raise a connecting pipe or route a connecting pipe around it. So a modification to each structure uh was fairly extensive when you're talking

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about a crew uh stopping where they can't can't proceed. So this particular change order list 368 um change orders. Uh some of are

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structure modifications. Um some ended up are combined with two separate structures. Uh and also uh a lot of cases in in many cases a structure could not be installed

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exactly at the curb line the way it was designed. The structure had to be moved out of the way because of an underground conflict. When it had when it got moved out of the way we had to get flow from the curb line to the new structure. So the contractor had to install flumes,

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what we call flumes, uh from the curb line over to the structure to direct the the the storm water in into the structure. So this is a very simple case uh of of structure modifications that were unknown to us, unknown to the contractor

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during the bid. It uh is inevitable on on any jobs of of this portion. Um especially in older towns when you have where you have so much underground that is just not known. Um we negotiated each

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item with the contractor and the total cost of this change is $63,579 and we recommend the council approve the change order. >> Very good. Uh let's move on to the next one.

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The next one is change order 16 and this is to install backflow preventers uh at at each at each resident where we move the meters. We had a lot of meters that used to come off an alley and they had to be moved to

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the front where the new uh where the new water line was. In phase one, we had a similar change order um uh for for this. And what this involves was uh the permitting process for moving uh a meter

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from the back to the front. The building department uh required us to upgrade the installation to new code and new code requires backflow preventers uh be installed for for new residences. We

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argued that point with the uh building department that these are existing uh meters. We're just moving them to the front and they u uh were very insistent that we must follow um the new code because we are moving the meters. So we

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already approved the the council already approved a change order for phase one for all those meters that were moved and this is uh for phase two. It comes to $56,958. The cost is supported by uh a cost

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proposal from the subcontractor that's actually installing lime tech. So the bulk of uh this cost goes directly to a subcontractor. And uh we re recommend the commission approve this one as well. And Trey, this is for the benefit of those residents

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that had the meters moved because you got to have a backflow preventor, even though technically it's a resident responsibility, but we're not going to have a bunch of residents go out and try to subcontract to get a preventor in. I think I put in two myself because one was in the wrong spot. So, just so everybody kind of knows what that is.

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Those are your two things on the stansions that go in front of the meter. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Uh, very good, Rick. Let's move on to the next one. 17. 17 is for the relocation of an existing light pole at

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Gulf Steam Road in Lake Lake Lake View Drive. Um this was something that was just not picked up uh during design. There was an existing light pole that was found to be in conflict with the proposed improvements.

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This project included uh realignment of roadways in many places to try to keep it within the existing rightway. Um um and in in doing so, this light pole ended up into the roadway and had to be

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relocated. The uh the contractor uh rem removed it and it's been laying on its side ever since. I did bring along a picture of if you want just pass that around. >> We've seen it. >> I saw it personally right in front of

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Michael's house. >> Yeah. So, we've been arguing with him. It was kind of a high cost. We've been arguing with the contractor over the cost on that. Unfortunately, the the corner where it has to be installed is is solid rock

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there and there's other utilities in that area. So the reinstallation uh is is going to be very difficult uh in that corner and the cost to relocate

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the pole pole is 11,000 just from the subcontractor. So the majority of these costs again are from the subcontractor. We could not get the price down anymore. Um and uh it's been sitting there ever since. And um given the circumstances,

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it's not the contractor's fault had we picked this up during design. It would have been in the contract. You would the the town would have paid more for the contract had this been picked up during the design, but it just wasn't picked up. So now we're asking that that the

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town council to approve an additional $12,000 to reinstall that light pole. Isn't there another light bulb light pole down on Lake View >> near A1A? >> That I would have to talk to my

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inspector about if there's another light pole down. I haven't heard of another one. >> What? >> Okay. I thought I saw the light pole down or the top of it. Maybe it's just the top. >> We don't have any other issues going on for light poles at this moment. So, I

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think that's a sign. >> You do? That was an iPhone. I'm gonna have to look again. >> It's possible, but I'm not aware of one right at the moment. >> All right. Thank you, Rick. Let's move on to change order 18. >> Change order 18 is the purchase of

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unused drainage structures. Um, this kind of ties into my conversation earlier about uh um underground conflicts that were discovered. Uh unknown underground conflicts that was

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discovered. Um there was four specific instances where the existing drainage structures that were designed and ordered for the project could not be modified in the field. They were just could not given

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the u the unknowns that were discovered they could not even be modified. They could not be be used. So um they ended up in the storage yard. We had to get different structures installed. I think they actually switched some other ones

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around to to to make the whole thing work, but what ended up was four drainage structures that could not be used. Now, this is a unitpric job. Um, which means that the contractor only

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gets paid for in installing for a storm structure after it's installed. So by not installing them, he had to buy them originally, he could not install them. So there would have been a change order

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to the council just for not being able to use those structures because the contractor paid for them and did not use them. During conversations with the town, um we brought up that there's future projects uh on the board that we

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may possibly be able to use those storm structures. So, the town uh agreed that they would rather uh pay for the storm structures directly and keep them for future use if possible. And that amounts

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to $7,000, $7,500. And we recommend that the council approve that one as well. They'll be kept in the yard out back, I believe. Yeah. >> How big are these?

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>> Pretty big. Various sizes. 6x6 by 8, you know. >> Um, so the contractor would have been entitled to this payment regardless of whether we kept them >> basically or discarded. >> Yeah. >> And and these are just the cost of the

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structures themselves. They did not we did not let them add any handling charges or anything like that. And again, yes, you're correct. Um, they they they paid for them. They bought them. They brought them to the site and they could not be used. So that we would the town would have ended up paying for

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them even on top of a disposal charge if you weren't purchasing them. >> Okay. Very good. Let's move on then uh Rick to the last one. Change order 19. >> Change order 19 is one that we've been discussing really

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the whole project and it's a a reconciliation of uh bid price errors. This was discovered uh in the very beginning of the job. Um there was four different bid items that the the math the unit price

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again this is a unit price job. So the uh the cost of of the uh of the uh of the unit involved towards the the unit price did not match the total. So when

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we discovered that early in the project, we told the contract the contractor the only way to reconcile this is you're going to have to submit a change order to reconcile it. Um and about a year

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later they finally submitted one. Um by the time it got submitted, relationship with the contractor was uh tenuous at best and um um nobody wanted to even discuss uh this particular change order

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until the contractor um completed some specific items to the town satisfaction. In any case, it has come back around. Um the contract is very clear uh under uh

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instruction to biders article 10 that any discrepancy in the bid due to math should be uh subsequently um corrected. So based on the contract

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language uh we recommend the town approve this as well and that's $65,000. >> But this reduced their their bid, right? I mean, why should we be responsible for their error that made their bid look more attractive? >> Well, this is true, but again, we're

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also well below what the the next bidder uh bid and two, we're kind of saddled with the contract language. It's it's written under justification, and I could read read it out loud. >> Well, I' I'd rather have council read

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it. Um, >> so I did speak to our litigation council on the roadway litigation that we have, uh, Jeff Hawkman, and he indicated that this was an issue of contract administration and recommended that we follow the engineers guidance on it.

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Um, okay. It must be an unusual element of construct construction uh uh this area of business because in no other business do unilateral mistakes

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u endure to the benefit of the m party making a mistake and to the detriment of uh the party who is ignorant of that mistake. >> Yeah. >> Um I have trouble believing it frankly. I mean, all we have to go by is the contract language and that's what we're basing our recommendation on. But

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>> Tom, any comments on this? >> Uh, no. So, I mean, we've got our council. Well, this is going to come back. So, if we didn't approve it, what would be the just going to sit till the end of the job?

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>> Yes, it would sit to the end of the job and there'll be plenty of of >> decision things to discuss at the end of the job till the end of the job. I thought that's what we were going to do with these. We were going to let them sit till the end because we have a number of issues with the contractor and

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they with us and and we are involved in litigation uh over that in state. I mean typical type of uh protective litigation until the end of a project. Uh I agree with Tom. My my recommendation was we would hold this in

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advance and vote on the other the other ones. Well, we'll vote on this one, too. >> Okay. >> If I could also just make a comment that given we're having trouble with communication to the president that he doesn't see any additional money until

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he communicates back um in terms of um if we're having trouble uh getting them to respond to us. >> All right. Well, I think we're all all in agreement on this last one, I believe, unless anybody disagrees.

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Um, thank you, uh, Rick. Any other questions on any of these other change orders? They they seem legitimate. >> I just have one question. The light pole for 12,000 or 11, can they put it in a different area where they wouldn't have to go through rock? >> Unfortunately, no. That that

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intersection, it's my understanding that intersection is >> it has to be on that corner. >> It has to be at that corner. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Uh, okay. Let's uh let's get some motions on these uh these other change orders, please.

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>> Okay. Uh I guess we got to do these individually. So motion to approve change order number 15 in the amount of $63,5795. >> Second. >> Commissioner Green. Yes. >> Commissioner Canfield. Yes. >> Commissioner Orwin. Yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley. Yes. >> Mayor Morgan.

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>> Yes. Uh motion to approve change order 16, installation of backflow preventers at each back to front meter location, $55,841.88. >> Second, >> Rene. >> Commissioner Green, >> yes. >> Commissioner Canfield, yes. >> Commissioner Ormmy, yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley, yes.

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>> Mayor Morgan, >> yes. >> Uh motion to approve change order number 17, uh relocation of existing light pole at Gulfream Road and Lake View Drive, $12,540. Second, Miss >> Basel. >> Commissioner Green, yes.

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>> Commissioner Canfield, yes. >> Commissioner Orthmine, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley, >> yes. >> Mayor Morgan, >> yes. >> Motion approve change order number 18, purchase of unused drainage structure, $7,5310. >> Second. >> Rainine. >> Commissioner Green. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Canfield, yes.

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>> Commissioner Orwin, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley, >> yes. >> Mayor Morgan, >> yes. Uh, a motion to postpone approval of change order number 19 bid math error 65,382.34. >> Second. >> Commissioner Green. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Canfield. Yes.

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>> Commissioner Orwine. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley. >> Yes. >> Mayor Morgan. >> Yes. Uh, thank you Rick for taking the time to go over all that. >> Um, all right. Let's move on then to the uh little club easement drainage pipe replacement. You have an update for us Mr. Nazaro?

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>> Uh, thank you, mayor. So, as I put in the agenda packet, the town is recently approach was recently approached by the little club to discuss replacement of the existing corrugated metal pipe with high performance polyropylene that connects a catch basin on Gulfream Road

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to one of the Little Club's lakes. This is an important part of the town's drainage infrastructure that removes water from Gfream Road via a catch basin just south of the police department. Our engineers provided installation specifications a few weeks ago uh which

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uh increased the price substantially uh based on what I received I want to say yesterday. Um I'm working with our engineers and the contractor to determine the best way forward uh trying to get an acceptable engineering uh

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proposal that does not double the price of uh what was in the agenda packet. So, at this point, we're going to defer that to the next month. >> Right. Uh, very good. Uh, let's then move on to the the penny sales tax uh

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account. >> Uh, so these are American Rescue Plan Act funds that are to be used by December 31st of this year. And the penny sales tax for Palm Beach County uh is uh expired December 31st of last year. We've already allocated,

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excuse me, this money to existing projects. So the money can be transferred to different accounts and those accounts closed. So we just need a motion to uh close those uh two bank accounts. >> Very good. Is there a motion to close that account? >> Motion to approve the accounts as

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presented. Any sales tax and ARPA bank accounts? >> Second. >> Miss Basil. >> Commissioner Grant. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Canfield? Yes. >> Commissioner Orwein. Yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley. Yes. >> Mayor Morgan. >> Yes. Okay. Ordinance 261

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uh was uh read last uh our last meeting is here on second reading. Miss Ba, >> I have something to read into the record. >> You do? >> Yes. >> Okay. from uh I guess the La Hermitage. A number of our residents at La

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Hermitage are concerned about the proposed new Gulfream ordinance because they use their porch shutters to protect outdoor furniture which is old and too heavy for them to move. Cost is an issue for them and we are a smaller building with only a manager and no maintenance staff. This ordinance will adversely

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affect them. I have heard from five residents who are upset about this issue. >> Well, those are shutters covering open space, correct? I believe so. >> Not windows and doors. >> I believe so. Yes, >> Mr. Nazaro. >> So, one of the things that our ordinance

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uh specifically talks about is um storm shutters on buildings or dwellings remaining in a closed secure position quote so as to block windows or doors. U so that is the language that's in there. I do propose that we include that uh in the first uh

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section as well. we can make a minor uh modification on second reading. So I would recommend that we add that uh in the hurricane season language as well. So it will read um

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um let's see storm shed or hurricane protection devices on buildings or dwellings um shall remain in a closed secure position to so as to block windows or doors except in the event uh except for 14 days prior to andor following a

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tropical storm watch or warning mirroring the uh second part. Um, so that would eliminate the this I think issue for these these individuals. >> Yeah. For the condominiums, I don't think it's applicable to them. It's it's

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these are shutters covering windows and doors. Those are open spaces. >> So I had 4001, a resident from 401 came in yesterday as well. >> Same issue. >> Same issue. They brought these and I think this is what the golf club is using. >> It's exactly it's what we discussed

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today with the golf club, right? The that that is not at least my understanding what this ordinance is supposed to address. Any discussion on this? >> Nope. >> Uh all right. With the uh change that uh

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the minor change that Mr. Nazaro just uh spelled out on ordinance 261, is there a motion to approve? >> I need to read it, ma'am. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm jumping ahead. >> It's okay. An ordinance of the town commission of the town of Gulfream, Palm Beach County, Florida, amending the town code of ordinances at chapter 22,

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nuisances, article 2, unsightly, unsafe or unsanitary conditions section 2231 prohibited providing for severability providing for repeal of ordinances and conflict providing for codification providing an effective date. The second reading today, May 8, 2026.

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>> Now, is there a motion? >> Motion to approve ordinance 26-1. >> Second or >> Commissioner Green? Yes. Commissioner Canfield, >> yes. >> Commissioner Orwine, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley, >> yes. >> Mayor Morgan, >> uh, yes. Um, all right. Ordinance 26-2

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presented on first reading. Um, Mr. Nazaro, just briefly u summarize again what the ordinance is for. >> Thank you, mayor. So for our ARPB to um uh ensure continuity uh of those individuals on the deis from month to

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month uh we are shoring up the flexibility for member attendance whereas previously if you were out of the county you could uh have an excused absence um and miss as many as four or more meetings within a 12-month period.

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We're now shortening that to three. um they can always be reappointed, but it does require that uh meeting attendance um increased for our ARPB members. >> It's what we talked about last month. Uh Renee, would you read the ordinance,

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please? An ordinance of the town commission of the town of Gulfream, Palm Beach County, Florida, amending the town code of ordinances at chapter 66, zoning, article 2, boards and commissions. Division 5, architectural review and planning board section 6672 board membership to adjust ARPB

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attendance requirements and decrease the number of meetings permitted to be missed in any 12-month period from 4 to 3. providing for separability, providing for repeal of ordinances and conflict, providing for codification, providing an effective date, and for other purposes this first reading today, May 8th, 2026.

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>> Is there a motion to approve on first reading? >> A motion to approve ordinance 26-2. >> Second, >> Commissioner Green, yes. >> Commissioner Canfield, yes. >> Commissioner Orwin, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley, yes. Mayor Morg, >> yes. Uh, resolution 26-3.

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Um, Mr. Nazaro. >> Thank you, Mayor. So resolution 26-3 is slightly modified from what we had approved last month regarding uh the easement abandonment at 2775 Avenue. The town attorney has signed off on the new

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language and recommends that we approve it. >> Very this is uh identifying the easement on the armor property that we talked about last year. >> Yes, sir. That's correct. So, this resolution provides for an easement that does accommodate the town's need since we are abandoning uh the existing

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easement. There was discussion about whether the easement exists or not. Whether it does or not is irrelevant because we're abandoning it. We're agreeing to and we're getting a a easement that satisfies our needs and replace. >> Very good. >> Uh Miss uh Basil, do you want to read

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this resolution? A resolution of the town commission of the town of Gulfream, Palm Beach County, Florida, authorizing and directing the mayor to execute an amended termination and replacement of easement agreement with Adriana PH and Christina Sutton Murs as trustees of the Murs family revocable trust dated

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September 18th, 2024 and providing for an effective date of today, May 8th, 2026. >> Is there a motion? >> I'll move to approve resolution 26. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Miss Basel. >> Commissioner Green. >> Yes. Commissioner Canfield? Yes.

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>> Commissioner Orline? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Stanley? >> Yes. >> Mayor Morgan? >> Yes. >> Okay. Very good. Uh let's move on then to the three check valves at the drainage outfalls. Mr. Nazaro. >> Thank you, Mayor. In 2021, the town installed or replaced check valves on 10

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different outfalls in the core to prevent water backing up into the drainage system during high tide events. Uh of those 10, approximately four already had such a device installed, but required replacement uh due to age. The other six were unprotected from high

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tide events. Uh, two outfalls at the south cove between Middle and Gy were not included at that time on the recommendation of our engineers. They also noted a third outfall and an easement at 3140 Polo Drive was to remain but that over uh but over the

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past five years it has been serviced and repaired and is now to the point where it should be replaced with the replacement of the check valve at 3140 and the addition of these other two check valves. We have check valves on all of our outfalls uh into the core. Uh we received three quotes. The low bid

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was EMC Divers uh for 39,000. I want to say there were almost a dozen biders on our 2021 project where EMC Divers was the low bidder. So they are familiar with this work. They did it very satisfactory satisfactoryy. We have a

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very good relationship with them. So I was happy to report they were the low bidder. Uh we also got a bid in from Aquinaotic after the agenda packet went out for $50,000. So they are still the low bidder at $39,435.

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So, we recommend that you approve that. >> Motion to approve. >> Exactly. Motion to approve. Is there a second? >> Second, >> Commissioner Green. Yes. >> Commissioner Canfield. Yes. Commissioner >> Orline. Yes. Vice Mayor Stanley. Yes. Mayor >> Morgan. >> Yes. Uh and finally, let's move on to

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revision to section 70-73, twotory structures that we have been working with for for months and months. Uh Mr. Nisaro. >> Thank you, mayor. So, um, during the ARPB meeting, I kind of did

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my song and dance at the podium. I'll see if I can kind of sit here and we can go through, uh, the PowerPoint, although I may get up just to sort of illustrate my points. Um, so again, this is a discussion of section 7073, twotory structure, specifically regarding the

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set side setback of the second story. Next slide. So the existing code reads new construction of a second floor for a single family house within the Gulfream core north south and place oscillate zoning district. So it doesn't include

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ocean west or the beachfront shall include additional side setbacks for the second story portion of the building. Uh there is then a formula presented in the second paragraph. The second story shall be set back from each first story side elevation a minimum of 15% of the width

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of the first story of the house. And then it gives an example. This is all from the code. For example, for a 70 foot wide home, the second story is required to be set back a minimum of 10.5 ft, which is a 70 foot first story width times 15% equals 10.5 ft from each

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first floor side building elevation. So the ARPB reviewed that and they were under the impression that the town commission wanted some additional flexibility in design. So they said, why don't we do away with that percentage formula and just establish a minimum

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side setback for the seconds story portion of 25 feet, thinking that within the mathematical formula with your 70 foot wide home uh with uh 15%, you're really looking at a minimum setback of 15 feet for the first floor and then an

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an additional 10 and a half feet for the second. So that would really meet the the regular design for your standard 100 foot wide lot with a house that runs the full width of of the lot. So again, minimum setback is 15 ft uh for the

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first floor, 30% of the lot width. So a lot of our lots both in the core and in place so ole that are not pie-shaped are 100 feet wide. So if you are building a house as wide as possible on that 100 foot wide lot is a 70 foot wide house

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and then you would add those additional setbacks on each side. So you're really looking at a minimum 25 foot setback kind of standard with with most of our lots. If you can go to the next slide please. So at last month the town commission suggested that we continue to use the

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existing percentage formula in the town code uh but add the additional minimum side setback of 25 ft as suggested by the ARPB. Uh this would uh control how close to second story portion of a building is the property line with with

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both formulas. Um, but what you're about to see is that the way that the formula works, it really establishes that kind of minimum 25 ft except for in rare exceptions of small lots, which we do recognize elsewhere in our zoning code with relief from, for example, floor

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area ratio if you're of undersized lot or if your lot is uh unusually narrow, side setback for the first floor. Um, so you asked for some uh examples via PowerPoint presentation. So I'm happy to

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to give you uh some examples of 100 foot wide lots, a smaller lot, and then a larger lot. You want to go to the next slide. Oh, thought I gave you the the PDF. You're going to have to deal with that. Okay. Um, so the first example is 3420

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GFream Road. So, as you look there on the side, and I provide this with all of the examples, the ARPB did approve this presentation. I thought that maybe it could be could be uh cut down a little bit with the information provided, but

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we do have a number of uh of items that are of general importance for the second story portion. So, the lot dimensions uh for this lot is 100 feet wide. Uh it is 150 feet, 155 approximately feet deep.

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and has 15 foot side setbacks. So again, you're looking at a 70 foot wide house on a 100 foot wide lot, which is the maximum that you would really get as far as the the setbacks are concerned. The second floor side setbacks are both at approximately 15% with 11 feet on the

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lefthand side and 10.6 feet on the right hand side. So this is your very typical uh home within our zoning code that has those approximately 25 and a half 26 foot setback. So if you look there, the total second floor setback from the side

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lot lines with our existing formula is 26 feet from the side property line on the left and 25 and a half feet on the right. Um the second floor F is 1,600 uh square feet which is 43%.

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Worth noting this is in our new overlay district. So that would have to be that would be capped at 30% now, but that pre-existed our overlay district uh legislation. Uh and the F allowable for this size lot was 5144 and it was

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approved to exceed that with a special exception for outdoor spaces. Um so again, this is a very uh typical design maximizing square footage and uh size. Okay, >> Trey, if we seen the so the overlay with

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the 30% and we haven't seen something come through what that would look like because that's >> 13%. >> That That's right. >> Especially on a center, you know, center facing second story that's not kind of locked off of one side or another. So

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you'll um I I thought about adding a a second floor um architectural design. So you can see the layout of the first floor versus the second floor. Uh in the later slides there is an example from place. I think

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that's at around 30%. It is a a wider lot. Um uh >> I'm so ingrained to fixed I'll move on here. I don't want to delay this. I'm so ingrained in the fixed thing. It almost is like I know we're not going to do this. It's almost like the 15 ft now is

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too, you know, but I go ahead. Sorry, just a comment. >> No. Um, well, what's the point of this >> relative to the recommendation that be set at 25 ft? So my recommendation is

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that we not adopt the 25 foot legis rule and we maintain our current second floor side setbacks because it is unnecessary to provide that additional. >> Okay. I'm sorry. I thought you were you were advocating for the opposite.

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>> No, no, no. I'm advocating I think it's working well. Um it does meet that that 25 foot minimum kind of no matter where you are. And there could be some issues with smaller lots that would be penalized uh and and caught in this uh

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this change that would would be detrimental. >> Okay. I misunderstood what you were saying. >> Do you think all the twotory houses though are going to look like wedding cakes in the neighborhood? I mean, it's going to be one right after another. I mean, why can't we encourage architectural style as opposed to just wedding cake? and and that is with if

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you eliminated the percentage and went just to the the solid 25 foot, then you could realistically have something that's that's offset a little bit, but you're still looking at a 10 foot. You could design it either way under the

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current code. >> code. Okay, got it. >> All right. Um I mean we can go through uh some of the other ones. Uh 530 Old School is very similar. So we can just kind of jump to uh 2913 Bluewater Cove. So again

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that's 138 ft wide. Um with the width of the house of 96 feet. So fairly substantial. Um the second floor just to jump to the bottom is only 18% right. So it is it is very typical of uh of of development that you will have the

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primary uh suite and living area on the bottom floor and then you know the guest or kids you know upstairs. So ne requiring that to be a little bit smaller of an area. Um Trey, this mayor, what you think something like this is

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sort of this is what I was just alluding to a minute and this is more we approve this obviously but this more of kind of what we were shoot we're shooting for 293 the second floor you have one you know it's going to be arguably you're

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going to have 10 foot ceilings up there you have to have more this is what I was just alluding to you have to have more architectural detail with your roof lines because you've got more house going out to the 15t setback. Um, and then you've got a little more and they created a little more I mean again we

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proved this we liked it. You got to create a little more interest with what you're putting on the second story which because it's now at what 30% or at least on the core it would be 30%. Well, that was I mean that was part of the reason why we wanted to have some discretionary

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uh elements on this subsection uh so that we could work side to side um to achieve what really is the uh the best look for that house compared to other homes on the street and in the

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context of the neighborhood district. So I think you've made your point >> on the percentage that that the flat 25 foot is is is not as good as the their original recommendation which was the the percentage.

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But where where are we on the the additional language that we talked about? So at last month's meeting there was discussion about we would include a 25- foot minimum setback in addition to what

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is already there. So we can propose that. But my position is that it it's um it's it's pretty much the same whether you use the percentage formula or if you use the 25 foot. Uh, I think the ARPB

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wanted to allow maybe some flexibility with that 25 foot language for the second story, eliminate the the percentage. So knowing that the percentage is always

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going to give you around 25 ft for your typical lot sizes, this would allow for a larger lot like at Bluewater Cove to put that second story much closer even though you have a much wider lot.

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So looking at the the Blue Water Cove House that uh that the vice mayor was talking about, uh there's a 28% setback on one side and 22 on the other. Average of course 25. Uh is that flexibility built in because they're, you know,

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you're there. It's adding some interest and dimension as opposed to just a pure wedding cake where every every house is uniformly the same on either side. >> Sure. Is that permitted under the current language?

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>> The wider the house gets under the current language, the more that setback needs to be making that wedding cake design more pronounced. Uh, and maybe I just don't recall it, but is it 15% on either side?

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>> Correct. Was it 15% both sides combined and then placed where interest >> correct dictates >> 15% from that side elevation and then you can place it wherever you want in that area. >> Okay. And that's how the current ordinance reads. >> Yes sir. >> Very good.

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>> A tall two stories. >> I'm about a total twotory. >> Okay. Well that it would not be permitted. Is that what we want though? No total two stories. >> Uh, absolutely. You mean a block that

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goes up? >> Well, if it was done architecturally in the, you know, in the right sense, >> you would be able to do that on an ocean front or ocean west lot, but not in the

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core place or the north south district under our current. >> Okay. Yeah, I mean we've been wrestling with this issue for quite some time to how to to prevent the uh Gulf Streams

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neighborhood districts with smaller lots from being overwhelmed with similar twostory homes like you see in other towns nearby. And we've taken a lot of steps. This I think

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this is a this is a a good step. not not the not the new recommendation but the uh the previous ordinance that we approved. Anyways, uh the issue before us today is whether or not to change the ordinance to the 25- ft recommendation

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by the ARP, >> which which just to again put some color on that, I think the ARP was laboring under the assumption that you wanted more flexibility. So that 25 ft minimum on either side would allow maybe some design flexibility. Now of course you'd

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be getting away from symmetry. So the houses would look very different um architecturally um and that would mainly impact your lots that are bigger than 100 ft. So the impact of that change may be

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dimminimous. Um >> well the larger lodge has a greater setback greater than 25. >> Correct. >> Yeah. So um this seems to address both. >> Uh further discussion on it comments.

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>> No I tend to agree with Trey. The math doesn't really change anything. So um for me it's not an issue. >> Um all right. We haven't yet seen again this or we haven't yet seen an application. Let's if we take the

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plastic sole designs out of we haven't yet seen an application subject to the overlay with the with the new with this code with the 30% maximum on the second floor. Correct. I can't remember if the Ellis house was

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be I think the Ellis house the Ellis house >> the Ellis house was after the >> so they do have a smaller which they always intended I mean that's very >> that's was a little bit different because that was a corner lot and we were provided three different iterations and then the one that was landed on was

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supposed to be the least least amount of mass having the standard twotory with the 30% in the middle a little bit different there >> consistent with what I said earlier, they also were looking for the vast majority of their living space and their master and everything on the

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first floor, but only guest quarters or grandchildren using the the second floor. So, there was a less need for square footage on the on the second floor. >> Well, we haven't. Correct. Yes. >> Okay. Uh you don't need us to do

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anything. We've discussed it. Um, doesn't sound like we're anyone's in support of changing the code. >> Thank you all for putting this together. >> But yeah, kudos to the ARPB for spending so much time on this u both the previous

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ordinance and this proposed uh iteration of it. Um, they really did put a lot of time and effort into it. We appreciate it. Uh, any other items, comments for the good of the order? If not, meetings journ.