i am ready uh no he's away he's in California all right everyone we're going to call the meeting to order now welcome to the uh March 20th 2025 meeting of the Haden Heights Planning Board uh the statement ready bear with me for
one second this meeting is being held in accordance with the sunshine laws of the state of New Jersey chapter 145 by mayor and council on the planning board for official notices notice of this meeting was posted on the burough bolton board and the burough's website for that
purpose uh roll call Suzanne sure miss Bonorsy here mr daucus here chairman Hansen here mayor Hal here councilwoman Hurin here mr familar here
mr shannon here mr schmidt here we have a quorum everybody rise and the flag please i aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for all um before we get started and I forget there was a uh if anybody's here for case number 23-3-3P that's Terrence Tracy at 423 Bradshaw Avenue block 4 lot 1.09 uh
there was a deficiency issue with the uh public notice for that application and that's not going to be heard this evening so if you're here for uh 423 Bradshaw Avenue that may be heard next month if the noticy the notice deficiency is corrected before then our
uh next meeting would be April 17th I guess um so we're only going to have the two cases tonight um first order of business is the approval of the February 2025 2025 minutes uh has everybody had a chance to review the
minutes uh entertain a motion to approve the minutes i'll move to approve a second any questions or comments revisions seeing none roll call suzanne yes
yes yes motion passes uh we have two resolutions from last month the first is case number 24-12-1P Michael Monica 198th Avenue block 40 lot 9 that was a uh I believe a
use variance with some uh bulk variance relief subsumed for a pool and a pool house uh has everybody that voted affirmatively had a chance to review the resolution any questions or comments permissions on the resolution seeing none entertain a motion to approve i'll make a motion to
approve resolution 2412-1PL Suzanne sure miss Bonorsy yes mr daukus yes chairman Hansen yes mr famular yes mr schmidt yes that's it uh next resolution is case number
25-1-1P pasqual Evangelista 1304 Silven Drive block 83 lot six and that was a bulk variance case for a small addition to a single family dwelling um has everybody had a chance to review the resolution any questions comments revisions on the
resolution seeing none uh entertain or entertain a motion to approve uh I'll make a motion to approve case 25-1-11p roll call suzanne miss Bonacorsy yes mr dauus yes chairman Hansen yes kate Har I
mean Councilwoman Harren yes michael Famular i mean Mr fam john Schmidt yes mayor Hal yes that's it motion passes okay uh now we're going to open the meeting up for a public comment and that's only for for public comment
that's not related to a specific case this evening so if you want to comment if you're here to comment on a specific application just hold your comment or question for now and when we hear that specific application be a public comment period for each application you'll be able to come up and uh and talk at that
time uh anybody want to come up and talk about anything that's not related to an agenda item this evening seeing none close that portion of the meeting we'll move on to our new business uh first case this evening is I don't think I'm probably gonna botch the name but it's case number
25-3-1P and that's Timothy Honchin 1501 Oak Avenue block 104 lot 23 i see Mr burns is here to represent the applicant this evening okay [Laughter]
I wasn't that far off that was it was a good effort good evening session uh we are addition property located at
104 it is a quarter lot so it has frontages both inside uh there are pre-existing setbacks coverage of setbacks directly directly related to
the existing story and again proposing above the first floor and There will be no expansion or any extension of the existing building requirement remain as is the
system back from we have a setback oak Avenue that's an existing position and we have set there also is an existing lot coverage of
37% request as I indicated this property is a four lot which does create difficult We hear testimony [Music] tonight issues that are very similar to
our home um this proposed addition will rehabilitate the existing home and add value to the property and the neighborhood [Music] you want to have them sworn in at this time Jim yes
marty's appeared before this board numerous times we're aware of his credentials and we accept him in the fields of as an expert in the fields of planning and landscape architecture correct usually get that wrong but planning and landscape he's a
professional planner in an LLA I believe okay everyone raise your right hand it's going to give testimony do you um swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to provide is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth thank you i know you're prepared to say
Mr burns could you provide just a brief description for A1 [Music] this is a site plan it indicates both existing conditions referencing the survey means
of surveying and the proposed condition what will be so essentially it is rehabilitation renovation of an existing home space to a
twotory and a half story is an existing threebedroom homeb structure we require front yard set back from the inside minor
direction to actual number the existing uh is 12.3 to the porch there will be no addition over top of that porch however the proposed addition will go over top of this existing
so that would be from 25 also that may be required for that case there will be no addition over top of
that and the second story actually sits beyond the 25t set back into so that technically the existing area would not require large
[Music] varian and if I'm I'm hearing correctly Marty um over top of that existing Porsche there you're only coming out to 18 feet not 12.3 or whatever correct okay Yeah
I know that was one of Steve's questions okay just make sure we're all clear correct correct so again this is this is the sideyard whereas the existing building away
[Music] that is actually that's thing we want to clarify um about two or three weeks ago shortly after the home was purchased the applicants realize oh my goodness we
have all this coverage out here let's try to get rid of some so uh the very original survey to 47% new survey was prepared and submitted and that's what that 37% ultimately was put so it's
actually a 10% reduction on what was exist today so the survey that was submitted by me by me that's 37% the one you review you just want to clarify that you removed 10% of the coverage yes since
since a property's been purchased [Music] okay right this is the intersection of our area right side so similar similar to site three corners are occupied by
homes that appear to have had second story additions um and graduations over time and uh share similar performance issues for
the front side so district 1425 address and then uh the having two fronts of course The requirement is 25 each of these
homes either on both sides or at least one are are around between 15 and 20 so as you can see our proposal is that right color on this so it's a little
easier to understand you can see the white space where the second story does not occur jumps off the page in this to see that that expansion beyond 25 that's the existing detach
garage correct yes the neighbor at some point or another construct the shed is ever so slightly looks like about 0.7 over the line and I think it was simply
an honest mistake there's a large pipe if you will that everybody thought represented property so when he built that shed thought it was turns out it's not property small or at whatever
point address We appreciate that right this is the architect rendering of the proposed second story edition have your Oak Avenue elevation uh Glenside Avenue elevation this is
that area that's 18 ft uh to the right away and then this uh opposite side on the 5 foot set back what the home will look like along that side
the last exhibit I can just I just want to give the board an indication exactly what the existing home looks like this home will be completely rehabilitation [Music] that's what it is
now i'm trying to remember which one it was [Music] i can't see that from here i can't see you know one of the existing You can share Google map correct
yeah the negative criteria feel that you know you know substantial detrimental impact to either the zone master plan especially given the nature of this neighborhood performances that occur on
both sideard side is it very safe that we left basically sliverable space so highlighted here by these darker setback lines is actually a
17t depth that would remain which is hardly the dimension of safe interior situation so straight lines if you were to tear down this house that
doesn't you don't want 17 and the challenge is you know architecturally hang that on top of what's the foundation that would be [Music]
Well it's not practical difficulty there question any uh board members have any questions for Mr irving we'll we'll have public comment after uh we go through the presentation here we'll open it up to public comment
anyone else anyone else want to speak i'm sorry go ahead i was going to ask is it three stories or two stories it's two and a half okay i'm looking at the renderings that's why I was I see third story windows and that's what I was just curious
yeah yeah i got you that's I got you yep will you be touching the garage in any way our plan is to fix the garage colors you're saying okay i assume you got rid of that what that sun that sun
shed that was off the side of it already greenhouse that broken so that's how you got all that that 10% big took okay any other questions
let's turn it over to our engineer he's got a review letter u several existing additions with two new a sorry 18 with Frank setback from uh landside Avenue where 25 is required
and then with the second story 5.4 from I'm sorry setback required the applicant has provided testimony for review uh
any questions or comments for Steve so the OKAB the existing front right now is what 19.7 I'm just trying to track all that right Right the second floor though I understand is is back
the actual second floor is going to be set back 27 ft from oak is that what we said yes so the existing is 19 but that's you sort of see it on the structure see the the the one floor thing on the Yeah
right there where James point that's 27 ft from where it goes up so the one story is pre-existing that's the 19.7 the second story though will be 27 roughly which complies actually but you still I think no because you're
exacerbating the condition want to recognize it so you're going to re you're going to rebuild the front porch porch correct right but you're going to put the new porch exactly where the old porch was yes not going to go any further or
further back or front porch i was just going to say that's important distin that's an important distinction otherwise I know you're getting at is new variance is it yeah that's what I was yeah but in my head we ran into that toilet on the front for three months
um anything further for Steve that's an existing all the existing thank you uh guess we'll open it for public comment you want to come forward we'll have our solicitor swear in you can comment question whatever you'd like
that's okay it's just part of our procedure we have to we have to we have to be official you want to give your name and address for the record you have the what i'm sorry okay do you want to um raise your right hand do you swear or affirm that the
testimony you're about to provide is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth thank you okay so my question was about Yes there's a twoart i was just concerned about Yeah and what direction
You're not You're not related to John Gop are you i knew that i would have told you had to move the G no [Music] John john must have measured that one tell him tell him I said he had
Take care thanks for coming out g A F G O F would anybody else like to speak on this application [Music] i guess we'll bring it back for a potential motion you want to uh outline what we're looking at Elena yes
so the applicant is requesting a bulk se variance to construct a second story edition um we are going to note the pre-existing non-conforming conditions of the maximum lock coverage um the applicant did note that that was actually a 10% reduction um even though
it still is over um the ordinance requirement of 30% um there's also some pre-existing non-conforming conditions already um meaning the minimum setback from front um the two fronts Oak Avenue
and Glenside Avenue and the side um setback the applicant did note that the front um setback to Glennside is actually 18 feet not 19.9 ft um they are going to
require variances for the sideyard setback and also that front um setback to Oak Avenue and as I said we will note those um pre-existing non-conforming conditions um the applicant did testify
that because of those pre-existing non-conforming conditions u meeting the setbacks would um create a hardship for the applicant i think that sums it up sounds good sounds good okay
any amendments uh anybody like to make a motion to approve or disapprove the application as somebody who's in a very similar position many years ago had to get go through this with a um with a corner lot
and having to put an addition on and getting also had to get one over a fence i understand exactly what this is i understand the positive negative criteria being what they are and I move to approve this um
application i second any uh questions comments on the motion seeing none we'll take a roll call suzanne please sure miss Bonorsy yes mr dauus yes chairman Hansen yes mr
shannon yes mayor Hal yes councilwoman Herren yes mr famular yes mr schmidt yes and Mr christie yes motion passes okay i'll give you the same spiel i'm sure Mr burns has heard this one before or given
it so uh the next meeting we'll do a resolution memorializing the decision that was made here this evening then the notice of that decision will be published in the newspaper subsequent to that there's a 45day appeal period after the notice is published in the paper technically somebody could appeal the
decision in that period saying that nobody objected this evening that's probably unlikely but if you want to move forward with your project before the appeal period expires you'll be doing so at your own risk so you can go see Suzanne and start working on your permits whatever you want to do but he'll be at your own risk until the
appeal period expires all right good to see you Francis see you tell John I'll tell John I'll see him at shuffleboard give him a hard time for me i know you won't have a problem doing
that see you all right we've got one more case this evening and that is case number 25-3-2P that's Steven Barespie 11:01 Sycamore Street block 69 lot 32 um you want to
come forward Mr uh Barespie i I understand we may have a jurisdictional matter to address before we get started with regard to the public notice yeah what um would you would like to tell us the result your inquiries yes
not really sure you have Do you have a copy of the receipt for that address okay i think we're in a position where we're not going to be able to hear the application unfortunately because we'd be putting ourselves and you just as
just as well for you because somebody was to appeal a decision and there was a deficiency with a notice then we could be opened up for a lawsuit and make it overturn whatever decisions made say you were approved this evening i know Elena and I had talked up she brought me up to
speed to this earlier and uh if we had the affidavit we would have been able to move forward but I think we're going to have to adjourn to next month i don't think there's anything we I don't think there's anything we can do we are we understand but I I think legally there's not much we
can do 17 p.m well me yeah i do I mean I understand like the hoops that you jump through i understand that you submitted it you know early i I wish that we weren't in this position um but
unfortunately I I just feel like it's the safest for you and also for the board um especially potentially due to any neighbors that have appeared um it's just it's not something that we can let go you'll you'll it'll be it won't be
beneficial to you because if somebody challenges and you do the work you'd have to reverse all the work it's going to cost money too so that's where like you just want to dot your eyes and cross your teeth yeah or if you can find if you wind up at the
post office and you can find the receipt for that one somehow then you don't have to renotice or we're not going to make you renotice for every property they're just the one it's only the one continually 24 [Music] it sounds like you may that neighbor may
uh you know he was to appeal and he didn't get proper notice if there's no proof that he didn't get notice you it's not going to be it won't be a good situation for you we should Yeah we're sorry i mean some things happen
sometimes unfortunately so um for those of you in the the crowd there's a notice with or a deficiency with the notice one of the neighbors we don't have a receipt out of the 24 neighbors that were noticed within 200 feet of this property we don't the applicant and our office
doesn't have a receipt so unfortunately we can't proceed with the application this evening so uh assuming that that deficiency is corrected much like I announced at the beginning of the meeting for the third application we were supposed to hear this this uh will be heard on April 17 2025 and there will
be no further notice that meeting starts at 7 o'clock third Thursday of the month just like this April 17 2025 we'll see you on the 17th okay you have a question yes
i don't think you got a letter saying that you agree to the variance you got a letter notifying you that he's appearing yeah we understand we understand that we I understand that the The letter that you would have got was
he needs proof that you were served notice that he was going to be appearing in front of this board this evening it was not to accept the var was not to accept the variance so only this board could accept the variance did she listen to a word I said nope evidence notice
now that she's here she's got notice the actual notice it's supposed to be 10 days in advance i don't think we can bend on that doesn't have to she's here she wants to let him proceed i guess
you're here you're here this evening uh it's in the newspaper and also on the retrospect and it's also the website there is only uh the very prescribed prescribed notice
requirements that the applicant must adhere to and that is all we can require so this is the same for our school for this planning board and that's all yeah and did she she did say that she
did not receive notice 10 days ago okay okay then I feel satisfied that the unfortunately the applicant will have to renotice that that one property owner didn't receive it my question that we have green cards for the other 23
right yeah so the other the other 23 properties receive certified mail well certified mail correct which we know that that's been an issue with the mail before it can take unfortunately that's
not under our control in my other role um I sit on a board statewide that's that um go basically yells at the post office 2 o'clock every Monday about return about
getting our mail sent from our office to the citizens of this of the county and it's a problem statewide getting mail consistently delivered not sure All right
yeah so it's it's a honestly it's what this is is like it's a technical error and that's why we we're not hearing the case tonight and that's why we're gonna push it off to next month i think there was no intentions to to slight anybody deliberately here it was just technical error not the first time and
unfortunately will not be the last time where they it happens just it there's two there's a lot of moving parts you know the the the US postal service um the it's there's the application through the construction office it goes through a lot of hands and when these errors
happen we we delay no I don't nobody's sitting here trying to trying to be really transparent that's say that nobody's being nefarious here or anything like that yeah I also want to be clear that it was to at my suggestion suggestion that the applicant knocked on your door because if you had received
notice and you could sign that affidavit that you did receive um the card that we're talking about with his notice then he could have proceeded because legally he would have met his requirement so I I just want to be clear that like the applicant did that because that was my
suggestion in in an effort to cure the notice issue so I just I just want to make sure you're aware of that i totally understand it's not it's not uncom it's not uncommon for people one of the
other ways you can satisfy your your 200 foot notice requirement instead of mailing people you can go doortodoor and have people tell them what you're doing and then they will sign something the issue the issue came up today the issue came up today and like I said I I
wanted you know to put our best effort forward for him to um get that notice issue taken care of and I I apologize for that and I know that he was coming from a long distance away so I just you know that was my suggestion that he knock on your door we yeah we created
those issues and it's we apologize I'm sorry man we did not mean to All right anything further All right we'll hear this one on April 20 or April 17th assuming everything's all right with the notice um any other business this
evening correspondence none entertain a motion to adjurnn make a motion second all in favor hi hi hi what does I don't live at 10