--------- Good evening everybody. In accordance with the open public meeting not act notice of this meeting I can't speak tonight has been sent to the retrospect and posted on the bulletin board in the burrow hall. Uh this meeting is also on zoom. First item of the work session is the public comment period. If there is
anyone in the audience that would like to speak, we'll go within the room first and then if there's anyone on Zoom, we will then go to Zoom. Is there anyone that would like to speak to the commissioners at this time? Sure. Yeah. Thank you. Congratulations here.
Um, good luck. Frank Dave, you guys, congratulations as well. Uh, I'm new to you, but I'll introduce myself again. My name is Sean Leonard. the chairman of the partnership for Hadenfield. I have Andrea and Michael here as well in the partnership and we just came here to
just um introduce ourselves again. Uh wanted to let you know we're excited to work with all of you to make a vibrant uh place for people to come shop. We're in a really good spot. Michael has done an
amazing job over the last few years taking over as a technic director. uh revitalized some of the uh events that we have uh recreated them. Um and I think the uh you know the proof is in
the pudding. We have a lot more traffic downtown the events and stuff. We're just looking forward to working with the rest of you guys as well forward. And that's it. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks Sean. Thanks everyone. D 260 W Avenue. Um, congratulations
to all of you and to the on clean. Um, never never in doubt, by the way. Thank you, sir. Never. In in late 1941, the Germans
bombed the head of one and one of the big casualties on the night of the 10th and the 11th was the House of Commons. The chamber used
to the House of Commons was almost completely destroyed. This is a building that had existed for years and years and years. And Churchill had said that the design of that chamber played a great role in the
development of the two-party system of government and therefore in democracy. So several years later when they were talking about rebuilding the Houses of Parliament and in particular that
chamber, he talked to Winston Churchill talked about the importance of design of buildings and he said on the 28th of October 1943, we shape our buildings and
afterwards our buildings shape us. And as somebody who grew up studying architecture, I know that very well. So I wanted to tell you how delighted I am to see this arrangement tonight
of you sitting around a table in a configuration that allows you to chat to each other. So much different from what we've had in years past. where the commission sat alongside each
other and talked to the administrator and to an audience if there was anybody sitting out here. Because the idea of a work session is to chat, to bounce ideas off each other, to argue the pros and cons. It's
not to make a presentation to the general public. And so the it strikes me that the prior arrangements and I'm not sure when that was introduced but I remember when work sessions were held in this room out here and there were sandwiches
and sodas. Right char we don't have the budget for that. It was a it it it was a work session, an idea as I said to float ideas, to talk about your vision for
things. And so I'm thrilled that we we are we going to be having this arrangement for work sessions in the future and and predict that it's going to be much more productive and I look forward to a
successful future for this commission. So again, congratulations. Thank you. It's not easy on the A though. We just got it set up. Nothing's easy on the A. or or Jason. No worries.
Is there anyone else in the room that would like to speak at this time? Seeing none, is there anyone on Zoom that would like to speak at this time? Okay, then we're going to move on with the agenda. The first item to talk about
tonight is portfolio assignments. Um, you were provided with paperwork that show the original breakdown of departments within the three categories, public affairs and public safety, revenue and finance,
public works, parks and public property. Uh also under each of those categories in addition to your municipal departments is the various boards, commissions, committees that typically have gone under each of
those categories. Um before we get into discussions as to who would like to take which just a little bit of background on a couple of things. Um, we have had years where commissioners have taken this list
exactly as it is. We've had years where things have been switched around. Uh, you are able to do whatever you would like within that to some degree. Um, I will talk about a position that was not
there. This is for department's sake. This is based for employees. um it is not necessarily so much for how things operate. Um so I want to just go to the one employee that is in a position under
a department because you're under a department but really is for all of you in addition to the same way I am. Um and that is our communications person for me too. Yeah. So while that
is under one one department that position really should be open to all three of you to do whatever um for your own departments um when there's it's collaboration when it is something specifically coming from the three of you. Um and that is a direction we would
like to take that back into. Um, so regardless as to where that employee falls under this list, that's truly the way it's supposed to be handled. Um, I think each of you brings something to the table that
will with ideas that will allow us to better communicate with our residents. Um, and we look forward to implementing those. Um, but I just wanted to clarify that before we moved forward in deciding who's going to do what.
So with that, the three of you can decide, start having a conversation as to which you want and if anything needs to change from the way this list is currently.
Sure. Well, um I remember in the debate um everyone wanted public safety except for me. So, I just to ask both of you what your thoughts are. I I'll go first. So, um you know, I ran uh with a a strong bias and emphasis
toward public safety and um I think with my military background, uh the fact that at one point actually I was a firefighter having gone through four firefighting schools and a chemical biological radioactive school in the Navy. Uh I I have a
uh the background for it. Um and uh I think it is a position that uh it's a lot of work. I think having four years of experience as a commissioner leading up to it is
a good feed spot so to speak for the next position. So, I think I can jump in this position a little easier having already been a commissioner for four years. How do you feel? Yeah, I hear you on that. Um, I'm attracted to public affairs and I realize these two
components can't be split up. Um, my entire career is built on communication, digital services. Um, I would categorize under this modernizing our website, our app, our ways of communicating with the
public. Um, where I I realized that Joanna who is the comm's person would be split among all of us. The actual tools we use and how we modernize those I think falls into public affairs as well. So that is why I'm very interested.
Um yeah but I'm I'm happy to negotiate. What other things about public affairs do you think public affairs because a big part of public affairs I think is uh there's the communication aspect but then there's also the the affairs of the public. the biggest thing be downtown
uh and the partnership we're had if it I think that's a big part of what could be public affairs but that's not necessarily public city's job. No, that's I I I agree with that one. I think that's also a public affairs job. So we I've had a chance to talk to uh the partnership
here. I I think it's the bread and butter of our town to make sure that that organization functions well, has a supported needs. um it's where I spend 99% of my time when I'm not home. So I'm very invested in those success as well. And so that's another reason why public
affairs is something that I'm really drawn to. Sure. Um rock paper scissors shoot. Well, no, it's not that. If I if I if I may just interrupt for just a second knowing that this conversation was going to to occur and you know public affairs and public
safety go together because statutoily there's it's based on five commissioners and if you only have three which ones merge. Um if you look up what public affairs is in any of those commission form of governments that has five it's
none of the stuff that you're talking about. it's health and safety officer. Um, I have a list of things because I actually pulled it to say, well, what is it? Because knowing that when communications came up, former commissioners 20 years ago had it under
revenue and finance. The bid is under revenue and finance. So, that's kind of those things that you're talking about. Um, again, some of those things can be switched around. Those committees and stuff don't need to stay under those. So, public affairs, it sounds like you're talking
about some of these different committees and some of the the focus with Joanna and stuff, not necessarily what the main functions and departments are under each of those categories. So, that's why I just wanted to point that out. Um, would you be open to me taking the partnership? Partnership falls under
revenue and finance. Oh, I see. No, no, the partnership falls under revenue and finance. So I think of revenue and finance with that following is the same as the rec council versus the rec utility. Like the rec utility is a is a monetary function that collects money to then be able to reinvest in the town
fields and things like that. But a rec council is something that needs to it's about scheduling. It's about field maintenance. It's about all that stuff. So that's almost like that's a public works type of activity. Same thing with the bid. The bid to me is insurance. I mean it's is the tax. It's 10% tax that
goes and gets collected by all the, you know, by us from the residents from the residents to improve the downtown. But the actual functions of the partnership for Hadenfield are the breadand butter parts. Um, and I I I will say I I I know myself I
have too many ideas to not steamroll the partnership for Hatfield. I wouldn't want to be the partnership for Hat andfield representative from the commission but the bid the bid tax is something that absolutely lives inside revenue finance. So I see them as two
different things. Do you Yep. I can understand the finance part of it. So that's why business improvement district is in red because that is a committee. I will disregard I will I will disagree with you for rec council and rec commission because it's different. Well,
and the way the commission was set up, all of those things that you talk about are part of the commission. So, I I understand the utility portion of it. Again, that's it is all that because it is currently under public works, but again, yeah, and I mentioned it because I've been putting in a tremendous amount
of work in recreation. I'd like to continue to do it. Uh, but it's not one of those, and I was very honest even with that group. If if whoever wanted whoever got public works really wanted to work on the recreation problem, I wouldn't stand in their way.
But I would like to continue to better work on that problem. So that's why I mentioned it in the first place. And I know that bounces us all around and takes us off this task. Um well then why don't we try and go back to so public affairs and public safety. Um, Frank has indicated that the
departments that fall under that he's very much interested in overseeing. From what I've heard, from what you've said, your interest is more in some of the communications and the ways that we communicate with our residents. That does not necessarily
fall under public safety. I think that's fair. Um, my master's degree is also in urban planning. So let's see planning board historic preservation zoning and those are the committees and so again so the departments if you're if
are do you are you interested in overseeing the departments Frank's interested in overseeing the departments then we can talk about the committees underneath it quiet so so I'm interested in all of it I in public safety I mean so the the
true departments you know fire increase HA, right? Okay. So, I mean, that's the starting point there. And, you know, I I know they're not on the call right now. I I know I have support of several of the agencies and they were supporting
pretty heavily for me to to spearhead those. Okay. That's the department portion. Okay. Are you interested in you're okay with him taking the department portion? I'm okay with that. Yes. Okay. Right. And
from a planning board standpoint, Frank is currently on the planning board. Do you want to continue on the planning board? Seven on planning board and zoning board. So I've done both. Oh, you're not on zoning board right now. Used to be. Correct. Yeah. For two years I was on zoning and for four I've been on plan. But planning is one of those
mayors designate. No, you got both. You have both. So this is one of those things where last time around Frank was public works, Colleen was public safety, but Colleen did not want to be on planning board. Frank had an interest being on planning board, so they
switched and so planning board went under Frank and he became the commissioner designign on planning board. So the question is Frank, do you want to stay on as the commissioner for commission person on planning board or
is that up for one of the other two to take in or are you do you does it you're good either way? Um I mean to me it would make sense to continue with that just because I do have the the tribal
knowledge of being part of all those the exception of the alliance for planning board. So just just planning board. Yes. Yes. So just planning board. So just bear in mind if you do that which is fine by state statute mayor has a right to be on planning board under our form
of government. If you choose to be on planning board I'm assuming Dave's gonna be the mayor. this next topic. But if you choose to do that and Frank is also on planning board, you know, we have two commissioners showing up at a planning board meeting, but it's a public meeting. I I understand, but you know,
just that would that would lead towards a designate. Yeah. No. Right. And just some food for just bear that in mind. Um and I know it's a public meeting and and it's noticed and so that wouldn't be Oh, so it wouldn't be an issue like that. It wouldn't it wouldn't be a poor mission
for the commission. I mean technically you're on there as planning. It is it it's public it's publicly noticed. I mean it's a separate docket. There's a different solicitor. The the the scope and the powers are more limited. You you only hear applications
that come before you. But again the that great thing the appearance you know the appearance of impropriety which lawyers love in the state of New Jersey but it's the appearance of impropriety is there'll be two commissioners on there. You're only supposed to be talking about a planning board application that's in front of you. that's your jurisdiction.
But if during the course of a planning board application, uh, traffic safety comes up and all of a sudden now we're talking about police and you're not talking about a particular planning board application with variances and things like that, it the appearance there could tend to get a little muddy.
And the only thing I think about the planning board is you did a great job on planning board. You got a master plan. you know, if if you had the energy to over to to go to continue to then because our job is then going to be all the ordinances. So, we're going to be
really involved in the planning board's output, but it's not the same as have you been for the last few years on the planning board because that's been a ton of work on the master plan. I'm not particularly interested in planning board, but as a design, she doesn't have a planner
background, so like that always fits. Can I offer one more way to think about this? Um, again, food for thought, but you've been running running revenue and finance. Yep. You've been running public works. The only destruction is my introduction. So, why don't I take the
thing that was left open so you can continue on the things that you had already been working on and I just cover the base of picking up where the last person left off. uh that might not be everybody's strengths, you know, and and I I'm not I
I was I was the only one who said I was interested in something other than public safety. Um my my my strength I think is in administration. Uh that's what I do for a living. Uh but from a
fire from the firefighters, police officers and EMS I four years ago I thought, "Oh, Frank's going to be the public safety director because of everybody's background standpoint." And and then but Colleen was already that.
So there's there's that. Oh, it just continued on. And although Frank did a great job with public works, it just seems like his background is in public safety and yours is in urban planning, which isn't necessarily public works, but that's
where when we decide that we want to make a physical change to the town, who implements it, the public works department. Like that's I mean that's how I see the difference. um and that not necessarily there's an opportunity to put us in the best position with our
particular strengths, not just because something's open and and it's isn't just and so just kind of like what Sharon just said about um the departments of public safety and the desire for improved communication, they actually
can be separated out not by statute but by practice. And we can memorialize that practice at the table right now. And if I could say just one thing about public works and chair knows some of this in the next year here we have
um we'll get the proposals back. We may be trying a different technology on the on the roads than what we've been doing over the last decade a little bit less than that or so. So that requires an analysis of you know do we go down the current path
or we go down an alternative path and the communication associated with that. We have the new leaf truck, the um single unit leaf truck that we ordered and is, you know, I like leaf trucks. It's just slow as mess ever, you know.
I just signed the check. I was trying to say is there while he's done a lot of work in public works, there are things I can tell you with your computer background, there are things in all of our departments that we can look to take your assistance from. And there are some specific things in public works that
could do it. Not I'm not pushing you in that direction, but just I think that's kind of where he's going with some biolytics where we're doing analysis the streets. That was our first year doing it this year and we had like I think some success with it, but it was first year doing it. I think there's a lot of opportunity there for you know for
someone with a an urban planning background. I mean it's not perfect but like even an urban planning background in Hadenfield. We're not exactly splitting atoms here. It's like, you know, it's the bigger the bigger the bigger honestly the bigger thing the way it had
been is also with public works and property for example the oversight of the redevelopment projects or of the buildings at least that were still there you know were were falling under front so that is to some degree the planning
that is going on currently um you know that's that's some of what falls under there. Um the redevelopment zone of crows woods which we have to develop and have to kind of run and see. There's there's a lot there. Maybe let my last question on this if you don't
mind indulging me. Can you speak a little bit about your philosophy or maybe your vision for public safety? Uh improve communication. I think the the leadership in these departments have to be empowered. Um I think that there's a lot
that falls to what I've seen over the last four years here that seems to be set at the at the chief level. I would encourage um more that they push down to like the lieutenant level and have like smaller assignments to each of those people to
have a little faster response and I would like to improve the communication where I think from what I've seen a lot of the stuff is get CCD on it like getting sent to the chief level getting this and that. I think there's a faster way that uh the communication can make
it to their respective departments and their respective departments should be taking action on it. And um you know, and you're you're probably too young to remember this and a Philly guy, you will remember this. If you remember like Frank Rizzo used to have like
that street, but like he remember like he used to have that that uh that call-in show where um do you remember this back? Like you would call in and people would call in like there's a dumpster like left outside my neighborhood and you know and he would have his apartment heads there and say, "Are you you're you know, you're tasked
with taking care of it. you like get out there and like that is what I'd like to have some sort of virtual format of that where it doesn't have to go to this person to this person this person to make the chief back down to the person who can take action on it. Let's get the information as fast as possible as close
as possible to the person who can implement it and get them out there and doing it. And you know that's not dissimilar what I was doing with public work perks over the last four years with our rolling action item plan where we just add to it every single week and assign people assigned date and just get
it done. Thank you. Is there so when you're pushing it down what do you mean like uh if there's a track traffic enforcement complaint come in that the person who gets the call just goes out and then just reports the outcome of it versus
being told to go there. So, you know, I just I don't know much about this. So, and I mean I I I know the basics, but just from the information I'm gleaned, it seems like a lot of this stuff is making it to the the chief level where if you're expecting chief to make a decision on every single thing that's
taking place, it's going to be very difficult. So, you know, I'd like to see that push back down to, you know, at lieutenant levels where someone is focused on, uh, you know, maybe traffic or someone is focused on, you know, uh, um, you know, thefts and breakins, which
is kind of how it is today. Um, but also, and I would like to do some of the data of, you know, we've had a lot of accidents, for example, in Woodling, you know, tasking someone with that to say like what are the demographics that people, you know, having the accents there? If if it's primarily 17 year olds
and they're Hadenfield residents, there's something you can do there where you work with the schools and you implement a better training and better you know and you're talking to both the students who are driving and also the parents and saying here's the impact on your insurance here's the impact of you know what happens uh you know with the
kids uh you know if they get suspended because of driving because they blew through a stop sign that I think there's a better way to get the word out there with communication and assign a lieutenant to that or less on to that to actually take it, run with it, and take ownership for it. So, it's not chief doing this and chief doing that. Chief
and and chief can be more of the, pardon the pun, the traffic cop of all these different departments and really again getting out there aggressively. Same can be said for the fire department than, you know, some of the other departments. Have you two connected on this, you and
um Chief Cutler, I'm sorry, we haven't officially met, I don't think. So, have you had connect on this yet? This is um this is just you know some ideas that I've had on uh you know just over the years and u taking feedback from um you
know informal conversations and stuff like that. I mean, one of the things over the last four years and I've been respectful of is that if someone's a department head, you kind of have to let them like, you know, run with their department because there's a lot of information that that you're gleaning. You know, you have to kind of trust that when I
presented the other commissioners like, "Hey, you know, we've done our due diligence on this leaf truck. We visit other municipalities. We like at some point they say, okay, well, I think that's the best solution because it seems that you've done your due diligence." you know, I wasn't going to insert myself into a into other people's
departments unless the situation warranted it. Um, you know, but, you know, having run businesses for I graduated college in 95 and left the military in ' 02. Having run businesses for like 23 years, um, you know, generally speaking, I know how to
pretty quickly assemble teams, you know, find out what you want to start, stop, continue, and then what are your JDIs and your just do its things you put in place the next two weeks and make it happen. And you know some of those things were like you know the the tree
program we did in public works for example where um you know I quickly identified an unmet need identified where there was an issue in the town brainstormed with uh you know the folks in the department we came with some great ideas and within a couple months
that was in place and we eclipsed everyone's results in the past. I have no reason to believe that, you know, I can do that with the police department. I can do a public works. I can do that with an underwater diving construction company, a compressed air business, a commercial HBAC business, and two mil
military departments. So, I don't want to be the I understand I'm I'm dragging this on a little bit and I appreciate everyone coming along on the ride with me. Um, one sort of my philosophy on how we do this is that I don't plan to gatekeep
any of the departments that I run. I I respect what you said that you you know I'm respectful of the department heads and what they do but I don't intend to keep my folks or the teams that I I'm overseeing away from anybody else. You don't have to go through me and I hope
that we can establish that working relationship that if I need to speak to Chief Cutler or uh Chief Foreman that we can have that relationship. Yeah. So there's never been any I mean if I have an issue with the the the police department or something I I hear I I go
to chief cover all the time. I mean it's not like that's but I think when you're talking about the the organization and the structure of how department works you know there is a a point where I'm happy to take input and stuff like that but um like so let's say you have public
works you you wouldn't want me parachuting in there and say gee bill over what didn't it work better when we did it this way I mean like no of course at some one point like you just say okay like you know like you know I had it you know you got it you know I'm I'm I'm done here And you have to take the next
level because you don't want me second guessing things any more than I would want any predecessor if I'm second guessing it you and I would do that together and not in you know we would come out with a unified vision before we we talk to folks. So that would be my um
okay so in the interest that we move forward I'm comfortable with you taking public safety. I will take public works. Um to the extent that you are all comfortable with the rest of the conversation, we can go ahead. So we
have the department split up. I mean the question is is there any any movement of the committees like for example you indicated you would like recreation which is under public works but I really like citization. Okay. We
you'd like both of those and a tier is interested in having the business improvement district which is under yours. It's two to one. That's not a fair split. Um on that end I I will say there's certain ones that do go together. So like so shade
tree commission makes sense to be in public works because that's a everyday conversation. Yes. And probably environmental commission. They're going to miss you Frank. No, I mean sarcastic.
Okay. So, love the shade tree, love the environment. I'll take those photos. I won't fight you. They are better if I think with um public works. Okay. And then um and um just because we didn't address it, I'm not running from public works. I love public works. I I think
public works is uh it is a great way to meet a lot of people in town and not necessarily on the on the best way though. Oh no. No right solve a lot of people's problems and you learn a lot and like you interact with a lot of people. I I think
it's like you know I I if it wasn't for the fact that I also want to flex a different muscle. I would have no problem keeping up work. I think it's a great organization. You have great people in it. Why specifically took those? I would agree. It's an instant reward because you could solve people's problems. It's not systemic like, you
know, how can we fix speediness? You guys, I'm already sold. Yeah. No, no, but but but you were newer in towns. Now, we're trying to tell you that it's a great way to meet people. No, I believe you. I'm now fighting over uh senior citizen commission and rec commission.
Um, you want both? Well, the recreation commission is in a precarious spot. I would like to solve the problem of public private partnerships that we've been working on. After that, I have no problem. Uh but I just it we're just in
the middle of it. I didn't make any promises. I was very clear that I might not be the commissioner after the 13th that would work on this problem. I would just like to work on this problem. That's that's a problem. But senior citizen commission is more there. That's
a voice I want to continue to offer to the senior citizens, which is it's different. Recreation is a problem to solve. Senior citizens are like a voice to champion. That's how I just feel about I'm falling in love with the senior citizens, you know. I I feel
totally strongly about um about that too. I'm happy to be an advocate for the senior citiz. I wouldn't if you want it. That's fantastic. One thing I will offer is I like to donate things to the senior citizen commission. It's part of what my
113 bucks a week goes towards is is donating things to the senior citizen. I will continue to do that even if whatever you would say they need. I will always open door like if I end up you know I would like senior citizen
commission. Yeah. Which is fine. And open door you're welcome to join us anytime. Does that work? Well, I'm not allowed. Technically, he can't come to the meetings. I can help them plan. I can help them plan in the garden. I was very excited for them to get the garden share. Is that that okay? Can we do
that? Yes. Okay. No meetings. I will report back. Okay. Do you want to um there is an open position that you'll then have a say for because we they're talking about adding somebody to that board. Have to be your decision. We'll we'll go over it. I love it. Do you want
to temporarily um you said you want to see through what you've been work working on the wreck stuff. Do you want to switch wreck with bid? Well, I I would totally switch record with like just keep wreck and you you do
partnership for be fine with that unless Frank wants burning desire for partnership. I'm I'm fine with that. And and honestly, the only reason is I have too many ideas and I can take all the air out of the room if I want to. So I don't want to do that. I'm totally fine
with that. So you want to hold on to Wreck, I'll take on bid and or partnership and then when you're through the work with Wreck and you want to revisit that, can we revisit it? Is that okay? Go ahead. Yeah. No, that's great. Okay.
Did we do it? Just one second. Is there more? No, there's a little more. So, um, we have two to talk about. Municipal Alliance and HRC, human relations. Do you want human relations? It's under It's under your
portfolio. Uh, I I would like to try it. I mean, I've been to Municipal Alliance. I was the municipal alliance rep and I was on the school board for a few years and then I was glad that Kevin had it because uh but there's going to be a change in leadership there soon. Needs to be completely revamped. Yes. Exactly
right. It needs to be completely redone. They're they're doing a good job for promotion, but not really like promoting themselves, which is it just needs work. It needs completely So, and it's a it's one of those No, no. Uh Municipal
Alliance. Yeah. HRC is actually in a good place right now. Okay. They're they're actually in a good place. So, I And that's basically leaving it alone. Uh just making sure Frank realizes municipal alliance is under public safety. Yeah. Because that
typically goes with the police municipal alliance. You're giving that up. One one fund committee for another. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, you're giving it up? No, he's you're taking it. It's it's I'm telling you it's under public safety. So you you're acknowledging you you have it? Yes.
Okay. Okay. So the only two committees that are truly changing is wreck is for right now going to revenue and finance and business improvement district is going to public works. Yes please. Okay. Um senior citizen commission stay moving down. Senior citizen commission is going
to stay at public works stays. I see a tier is going to have it. Okay. Yeah. Now, the other the only other thing that I talked about in my memo to you guys was the affordable housing nonprofit that does not have a home here
because we created it and we set it up so that the commissioners always have one appointment out of the five or seven or whatever it is. Yeah, I think it's five. Um, five. Yeah.
And um they have dwindled in numbers and need to be built back up. Um they are in the middle of a number of things they they have been working very hard over the last year and are actually making some great progress.
Um, so wasn't sure if rather than appointing someone to the board, if you wanted it to make it one of your portfolio and for at least now until they get a little further along, the commissioner is the
appointment. I see to just see how it's going to be to see how it actually is run, right? At least for now. Pretty important that way. It's been a black hole for me and probably for you too. Well, not necessarily because a lot of the calls will go to
public right and I mean not I'm trying to run from it. It it in my opinion would make sense until it's fully established for it to be with public works because you do get the calls and whether you have responsibility or not. It's just it's basically just
pivoting and assigning to yeah the people who have responsibility. There could be an argument under all of them. M it could just be just as much a financial as it is with with public works and property. It it's that's why I'm putting it out on the table. It's not assigned to anyone at this time. I
would make the recommendation that we assign it to someone and at least for now you're the appointment. So I can see it fitting under public works in the implementation phase. But if we're talking about like the discussion phase, to me that makes sense
under revenue and finance. Well, it exists, but if it it it exists right now. So, it's not under discussion. It needs a big improvement or at least a big understanding, not an improvement. Better understanding of the of the commission about their needs, what
they're doing, how they're doing it. Yeah. I mean, they're funded by us. I'd be happy to do it, but I agree like on the long term that is we have to maintain their we have to help them maintain their properties. We have the staff in public works that help maintain
those properties. Well, so not necessarily. We don't we don't actually they pay to staff it. The only reason the other thing to consider too is you're dealing with not that you go to all of them, but you you know you're
dealing with four boards here, two boards here, four boards here. Yeah, I would take it. I It's just It's just another thing to kind of throw out there. There is some again not that you have to go to all of them. I I mean I have a ton of affordable
housing contacts. So if you ever need that I can provide that but I'd like the division of 244. Yeah it just made sense. So housing agency. Okay. Um there are some other appointments and stuff that we can talk about after we get through the next
stage. Um well as further we we talk about appointments further on just again I think we provided you with some information we will talk more in depth about appointments at the next meeting because they will be on the June meeting. Um this way it gives you guys
some time to kind of look at it ask questions gives us time to do a call for more um folks interested if we have don't have enough people on the list for some of the appointment you know positions that we have. You're going to be reappointing people. there are some vacancies. Um thing to remember,
whichever of the three of you becomes mayor, you're automatically on the library board. Um and the mayor has a design on planning board and that is solely the mayor's choice. So there's no vacancy on
planning board. There is a vacancy, but it's an HR, it's an environmental commission. So, tomorrow night at the environmental commission, I have to talk to them about picking one of their members has to be the planning board appointment. So, the appointment to the board for the
planning board, it's not one of us. It's So, there's two. Yeah. Oh. Whoever the the commissioner of public safety is automatically a member of planning board. The mayor has an appointment. It can be
the mayor. I see. Okay. It has not been for the past 21 years and probably, you know, some period of time before that. They've always had an appointment. Okay. Got it. Um, okay. Next discussion is mayor and deputy mayor. Um, so what's the
philosophy of public safety? Oh, it's on the public affairs side. No, it's under the construction. Oh, the construction. Yeah, it's all it's it's a public safety. Yeah, sure. Because Yeah. That's a safety issue. Yeah. Construction, uh, planning, zoning, and
and HPC are all under construction. Yeah. No, that makes sense. So, typically in Hadenfield, um, the mayor has always been the highest vote getter, but that is a that there's nothing in stone. That's just been
practiced. So, the three of you need to have a discussion as to who's going to be mayor. It is mostly ceremonial. The mayor signs documents. Um, tends to have to go to a few more functions than everyone else does, although you're all all invited. The mayor is typically expected to show
up a little more often. [Music] Um, anything I'm missing with that appointment? I don't think so. Sign mayors sign the sign the contracts. Camden County Mayors Association Association which is another meeting per
month. So you sort of liaison with neighboring the state mayors association the state mayor. So so there's a couple more meetings you know per month per year some more some more obligations and so the sort of right for less boards because one of the boards that revenue
sits on also is the GIF. on the I'm the I have a separate designation as the representative or what whatif insurance five like I have to file a separate uh conflict of interest paperwork for that and everything so that that's that comes along with
revenue and finance so so even though there's less boards as Sharon described it there are actually at least more meetings that I have to go to every month they're from a completely different organization as that role. Yeah. Joint joint insurance fund. That also can be
something you can in the future you can designate to someone else. It's not it doesn't Well, another commissioner. No, that position does not have to be a commissioner. Well, that's interesting. It is interesting, but you know, Commissioner Dorne did it for years
after we would have been Yeah. But as as the mayor, you're looking at a few more meetings. New Jersey Conference of Mayors, the Hammy County Mayors Association, and that could be as few as, you know, one per month, two, sometimes you host. There's other committees that they have.
So, it's you're buying up some how much you want to be involved. I think the town or the person who gets the most votes being the mayor is very sensical, very logical because this is how the town has spoken. That's the person they've chosen. So, I'm I'm happy to
support that. Well, now I say this, I'm just happy to be here. I have no intention of It's early. It's your first meeting. Becoming mayor, but I understand your best interest. So, like you guys can
have that discussion, but I I I mean, and and for two reasons. One, it's I think the mayor exists on Saturday. I've said this to Sharon. She doesn't agree with me, but it's it's kind of like the person on Saturday that it's ceremonial. It's showing your face downtown, which I
love doing. Uh talking to people, it's saying hi to every person that walks away. And if you've ever walked with me, it's all I do. Um and you you cut the ribbons, you sign the paperwork, you make people feel like they want to be here. And I have a personal thing if
when I umpire like the championship game at the little league, they'll be like, "It's so small town, right? Oh my god, the mayor. That's that will continue going on whether or not mayor still be still be commissioner. I'm not gonna fight it.
That was you know there's extra meetings. Sure. Okay. And here's a sample thing. It's not a problem. It's not what you need. So under our form of government, the commissioner of revenue and finance is automatically the deputy
mayor unless they are the mayor. Correct. So now the two of you have to decide who's going to be deputy mayor in his absence basically you run a meeting or if there's an extended absence you sign paperwork, right? If there's extended absence or other extenduating
circumstance that the mayor can't sign a piece of paper, right? The deputy mayor with the either following the vote or or the law and then then sign. Are you planning any long surgeries or Okay.
So I I could buffer with a big me. I I like to be deputy just because I've been doing this for four years and um yeah, I just have more experience doing it and can jump in as needed and have held meetings and I mean um have signed
documents on behalf of I mean it's just it's not like it's you know it's not the most complicated stuff on earth but it does help I think to have some experience there. I thought it was just a ceremonial role though. It is. It is.
Let's see. How do we feel about this? [Music] Um, okay. Moving on. Um, next item is the meeting calendar. We set the meetings up at the beginning of the year. Um, they can
change if you have if an unexpected work conflict comes up, if unexpected vacation comes up. We can always change meetings as long as we have time to be able to publish it. Um we the meetings were set up this time
around that we have one work session on the second Monday of every month and then we have one action meeting on the fourth Monday of every month. There are a couple minor changes when you get to certain months because there's holidays or
um other things that pop up without having looked at the exact dates. So that so the calendar itself may slightly change, but that is typically what our meeting schedule is. So since this is a new group of folks sitting at the table, we wanted to put it out there in case
there's any changes you wanted to make to that. We've had times where commissioners they used to meet work sessions on Mondays, Tuesdays were regular meetings and then you had them where work sessions sometimes they started in the afternoon then we had
them start later in the day but earlier then we had them start late. They've been all over the place. So, we wanted to put it out there um so that the three of you could have a conversation and decide if you wanted to stick to the schedule at least for the next six months and then redecide what you want
to do moving forward or what you wanted to do. I don't know about six months, but I I have opinions about the meeting. The advantage of the six months is that they were published at the beginning of the year. Oh, sure. No, no, about changing the days. I mean just about uh
and not action meetings. I think one action moving a month is fine, especially if we really get into the routine of respecting um or uh introducing an ordinance, giving that month 30 days and then at the next
action meeting uh doing the second reading at hearing on it. So, I really like that cadence. I just it just seems to be that there's there's agenda meetings and then there's stuff that doesn't fit the agenda meetings and we never really seem
to get to the stuff that doesn't fit the agenda meeting as somebody who came in seven months of of doing it. it it seemed so prescribed that I understand the prescription of the walkth through
agenda meeting so that um things like um a resolution that or or an ordinance it's only has its title when we're talking about it by the time it's put on for first reading or and and then for
second reading it has its body but at least if it's listed in a work session it's only listed by title we can talk about it. Um, but that doesn't seem that that doesn't seem part of the agenda process, right? It seems to be like, hey, this is something that's coming up.
Um, I just think we should have two working sessions a month and then one action meeting a month. I I don't feel super strongly about it because three of us have to have schedules that could fit it. But I really do think that there's an agenda meeting about crossing eyes and dotting tees about what we're going
to talk about at the action meeting. get up to date on things that aren't ready but need to be done. But then there's just other topics we've never really seem to get to talk about, which are things like uh what are we going to do about
um how how how the road gets closed for for events and being able to ask if if say it was my responsibility, right? So just to use you for partnership for you, you came, well, they have some great ideas. I really
don't know if these are great ideas. Can I pick your brain about it? We don't have any time set aside to do anything like that because both meetings are just so prescribed. Well, actually, you can. I know we can, but it just doesn't seem that we have. That's not how things were
running. You now are you're a new board. You can make the determination to do however you want. Some of those things go in that last little one where it's commissioners talk about whatever they want to talk about, right? But we're not solicited to actually add things to it, which you are able to at any time. I I I
get that. I I It's how you want to move forward and do it. You can also add meetings at any time, right? And that's why I was saying I didn't want to mess with the published schedule because it's published. But I think the three of us can talk about adding meetings. If if if I could impress on I think the need to
have especially around the budget season because we should have a separate walkthrough meeting from the budget being put in front of us meeting because this is the one time I'd love to hear public works ideas about what they want to spend on public safety
work about what they want to spend on and out of out of revenue and administration maybe headcounts that we want to expand. You you can have a I mean and it's typical in a lot of municipalities where with a budget you can have a separate budget meeting. We'd have to add it. We've had
those this year has gotten very screwy with the budget because the election we have the election and not just our election and government. Yeah. We had everything and we were dealing non-stop with bankrupt and so a lot of the focus and time and energy were consumed by
those things and not being able to finish and focus. I will tell you, revenue and finance commissioner has met individually with in the past with all of the departments to have them explain to them what their needs are before that final document is done. We've had it where we've had meetings, you know,
separate. We've had it where we've tried to talk about it in the work session and that never went well and they just finally took whatever was put in front of them. Um and you know we've also had where you know we've had special
meetings and you have one for the budget itself you have one for capital and or you can do them all together depending on how much is going on with the budget that we're I've talked about the fact that we should schedule one of those for early June so that we can actually introduce and you know get our budget
adopted and move forward. Um, in the future, I would anticipate that those are going to be in February next year rather than this late typically moving forward. But you can schedule, again, it's the same. You can have a special meeting as long as you have time to publish it. You can add meetings anytime
you decide you have stuff you want to talk about. I mean, the minimum is 48 hours notice. I mean, we could have there's certain exceptions statutoily for emergencies, right? But but statutoily as long as Yeah. as long as we can can get the right as long as we can get the notice to the paper 48 hours
before their published paper comes out then we can can add a meeting. Um we're running out of time. Yes. 7:30. So no changes to the to the meeting schedule at this time. The only thing
June 23rd I'm not going to be here. I'll be out of town. So we either change it or there's nothing heavy on the agenda. Fine if it is that an action meeting. Yeah, I would rather schedule an action meeting work session. I can understand like sometimes you just kind of move on
but an action meeting and there are going to be things on that meeting. Yeah, that's going to be budget. It's going to be budget. You're going to have fourth round acceptance of the fourth round plan and it has to be in June. It must be must be in June. You want to push it a week to the 30th. That's
really early. That's too tight for you. Gone the whole week. I'm gone. I fly back whatever that Wednesday is. 25th. Thursday. 26. I charter. I could do a Thursday or I could do the preceding weeks. Well, we
probably want to build some time between the June 9th one. So, well, you could always bump the June 9th to June 2nd. And you could do well that's like next week. Yeah. No, let's do June 9th, June 26th if that if that works with me. Um
Thursday and the 26th. The only thing Thursday meetings I wouldn't let school would be. Oh, what time is that? I don't know if the 26th be and I will tell you between the 25th and the 3rd I'm going to have to be virtual.
Wait, what? Say from June 25th to July 3rd, I will have to be virtual. Well, until July 2nd, I will have to be virtual. Okay. So, that's why you're saying pull it up. Okay. Yeah. I mean, and it and it's it's fine. I can be virtual. It
really doesn't matter. Um, yeah, we've done that before. Yeah. Yeah. Diana has to be here as the clerk, but you can guide us and have be available for questions. actually. Yeah. So, are you okay with doing that? Yeah,
I'm perfectly fine. We're saying June 26th, unless there is school board meeting, in which case we'll pull it up a week. That's what we're saying. I know. Mine's not pulling up either. Till 19th.
No, no, Thursday would Oh, yeah. Yeah, because right now it's the 23rd. You're saying the 26th if you pull it forward a week. Well, no. We were talking about moving the work session a week and then the meeting a week, but you could do that, too. You could do that, too. You could you could have the action meeting
on the 19th, unless it's the school board. Well, that's June 10th. Yeah, that that is Let's do the 16th. Can we just commit to that? Can we just say June 16th? I'm fine with the 16th. Will you be writing by the 16th for the action
meeting? Well, yeah. With the fourth round stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Planning boards. Planning board's next Tuesday. Okay. So, change the 23rd to the 16th of June. It's pretty common, too, too. Yeah. Like things come up and we just Oh, trust me. Okay. And yeah, it'll
publish. You're good. Okay. So, that's an action me. So, 7:30 start on that 16th. Yeah. Yep. I change that. I'll let Mary Beth know. Um, just to go over some other quick things. Yeah. Because these are things that are on your meeting tonight. We
typically go out every year for our fee for a bunch of our professionals. Some of it are different times of the year. These are the ones that we do now. Um we also provided you with the list here. It's actually sitting right there. Um that top spreadsheet there. Yeah. That's
all of our professionals that we have. Um and it tells you the time of year that we go out and we have awarded them. You have those. Um, so those are things that we will be talking with those will all come in for the next meeting and we will be talking
about those in our work session because you'll need to make choices on those. What if the work what is what do you mean by conflict? Actually, they may not be in for the work session. Um, conflict solicitor is if for some reason S has a conflict has an issue with one of the
things that we're talking about and can't represent us in something or same thing for playing the board or correct. Yeah. Like in the bottom person we have to use the prophets. That's a that's a prime example. Yeah. Many many years ago when there was a sheriff service agreement
for court services between Autobond and Hadenfield and stayed out of it. We can change that. I can't represent them. I can't remember both. with them either. Yeah. Change it on the floor. Okay. Change it on the floor. Well, just to look at it. Well, just
some of these are going out for So, they're 63rd June 23rd. I also have You don't want to change the health of health 23rd. You want to leave it or change it? No, we'll just cancel that when we have
the next one. 6 o' on the 23rd. It would have been it. We're just going to cancel that one for right now until we get you guys caught up on. Yeah. You are technically only need to have one of those a year, right? All right. We have them once per quarter. So, thanks for my account. Yeah. So, we'll cancel that one
on the 23rd. Then board of health and the commissioner action meeting will be a week. Okay. Advanced. Sure. and we'll and we'll we'll just cancel that board of health meeting. Yes. For the 23rd. Um
so the draft agenda for this evening I will have items to change the first resolutions which are the ones about the you know who's in what what uh uh she's going to department and that stuff. I'm going to put those together and I'll
bring those up to you right before the 7:30 meeting. Um the other one I'm hoping that we can close for a few minutes to talk about just so we can we have it on as a res today or at the end of the right now. Yeah, right now. Okay. Yeah, we need to go close. Yeah. Um just because we need
to you have a resolution taking the kitchen. We certainly can. Does nobody else have to move? Nobody else has to move. All right. Kitchen or you can come downstairs? You want to announce it? Whichever. And but wait, just so I'm going to make sure there's nothing else. Um the rest of the items on the agenda
here, this a lot of this stuff is stuff you're going to get used to. You know, a lot of it is just basic action items that we need to take to keep running the government. Um we've we're applying for a grant. Um yeah, and then um you know, we're
also I when I was down at the conference of mayors last week, um the shared courts, we have six towns that are in a shared court. They're applying for a LEAP uh implementation grant and they ask that we support that grant because
we're one of the six towns. That resolution is on here. Um standing for we're going into closed for Boxwood just to I just need to talk with you. I I'm assuming we're moving forward that I just need for
a Yeah. I just need to I just need to because we do need to move forward with that one and I just want to have a chance to talk to you about it. Leap standing for what? What's I don't leadership. No, it's it's it's What is the details behind that? Because I the resolution wasn't
ready yet when the leap. Yeah. So, um so right now is the lead agency. They had four municipalities. They could fit everything in their court. Two more municipalities joined. It now became six. They could no longer fit everything. So, Runomde, they
actually moved the courts to Runamede. Rundeid had to make some improvements to their building for the expansion of their court. The grant is to try and get reimbursement for the expansion of the court. All right. This has nothing to do with like first responders. No, no, no.
That was done. No, no, that one was done. Yeah, I'm fine. We were the lead agency on that one. This one is solely this is the court and them just trying to get funding back for something they've already done. Yeah, they can't for me and you can play
with the kids over there. Oh, that would be okay. All right. So, is there anything else before we go into close and when we come out of close? We'll be no action. Well, there'll be no action because we have the action meeting in 7:30. We'll be adjoining and we'll just adjourn. Yeah, we'll adjourn from close. Yes. Just to let everybody know. We'll
come out. We technically have to come out. We will. Then we adjourn and then we'll see everybody at 7:30, right? Which will probably be close anyway. Do you want to just go into the kitchen? Yeah. Uh yeah, just go. Okay. Part: 2
Mhm. Okay. Thank you. Good catch from Michael. Yes. So, the cat's out of the bag. Ready when you are. All right. Super. All right. Um, I call this order this meeting to
order. Um, and I call this meeting to order. In accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act, notice of this meeting has been sent to the retrospect and posted on the Burough website, Burough social media. Sorry, rushing. And posted on the
bulletin board in the Burough Hall and is being held in person as well as via Zoom. Everyone, please stand for the pledge of allegiance followed by a moment of silence. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Yep. The first resolution is the statement of
election results. Noting that um Dave Sidell received 2,259 votes, Bill Shanahan received 2009 votes. Frank Troy received
2,199 votes. and Aier Cole received 258 votes. This puts Dave Sidell, Frank Troy, and Air Cole as our new board of elections. At this time, we'll do the
individual swearing in and any remarks if they wish. We would like to do uh a tear coole's swearing in first. Call to the podium retired United States Magistrate Judge Joel Rosen. Thank you very much, Judge Rosen, for for joining
us this evening, sir. Thank you, S. This opportunity. First of all, I want to thank you for inviting me and wishing all the commissioners and their families very best. Here is a copy of the Constitution that you want to hold. Please repeat after me. I a Cole Cole do
solemnly swear solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States the Constitution and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey State of New Jersey. And I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same faith and allegiance to the same and to
the government established in the United States. established in the United States and in this state in this state under the authority of the people. Furthermore, Furthermore, I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully faithfully
impartially and justly perform all the duties of commissioner of the in the burrow of Hadenfield. the duties of the commissioner of Burough of Hatterfield. According to the best of my ability according to the best
of my ability. So help me God. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Before I wrap up, I just want to say a few words thanking everybody. Um, good afternoon everyone and thank you for
being here and a special thank you to Judge Rosen for um for his early support and for swearing me in tonight. Today of course obviously is a meaningful day for me and I'm incredibly grateful to stand before you sworn in as
one of Hadenfield's next commissioners. This moment, however, isn't just a finish line. It's a starting point. The work, the real work begins now. Local government touches our daily daily lives in tangible lasting ways.
From zoning to parks to public safety, it shapes the character and rhythm of our town. But government doesn't run in a vacuum. It runs on all of us. The strength of a community lies in how deeply we each engage in the future.
That's why I believe so deeply in civic participation. Not just voting, but staying informed, showing up, lending a hand. We are fortunate to live in a town filled with people and organizations who already do this really well. From our volunteers to our civic groups to our
small business leaders and neighbors who step up every day to help others feel seen and supported. It's up to all of us to protect and shape the democracy we live in. not once every few years, but through the steady everyday work of
caring and showing up. So, I have many people to thank um maybe too many to name here, but I will personally deliver deliver my gratitude to you. Um I want to thank all of you who supported me in this campaign, not just with your votes, but with your time, your advice, your introductions, your encouragement. Your
support throughout this campaign helped carry me forward and reminded me why this work really matters. To my parents who couldn't be here today, thank you for your unconditional love and constant belief in me. It's the foundation for any confidence I carry.
To my mother-in-law, thank you for always being a steady listening ear. To my husband, you instigated this journey and have been not just my biggest supporter, but also my best friend. I love you. I couldn't have done any of
this without you. And then lastly, to my children, Charlie and Marty. You are the reason for everything that I do. Every decision I make is rooted in a desire to make you as proud of me as I am of you every single day. Let's get to work.
Thank you. Next, we have a swearing in of Commissioner Frank Troy by his daughter Carly, joined by his wife Debbie. Repeat after me. I,
Frank Troy, Frank Troy, do solemnly swear domly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. ution of the state of New Jersey and
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established and to the governments established in the United States and in this state United States and this state under the authority of the people authority of the people.
Furthermore, I do solemnly swear we solemnly swear that I will faithfully impartially and justly perform faithfully impartially and justly perform all the duties of the office of commissioner all the duties of the office of commissioner according to the
best of my ability best of my ability. So help me God. So help me God. All right. So, uh there's a saying that if you uh can't make a speech memorable, you can at least keep it short. And uh tonight, I'll never do both, but I'll
definitely achieve one of these. I want to thank my daughter Carly for swearing me in here tonight. She is home from college from University of Delaware. and uh she's joined tonight by my wife Debbie and my mom right there of um 52 years. So there's no funny business
there. Um she's uh she's in from Oxbridge in Cherry Hill and uh I think one thing we should consider is annexing uh Auxbridge over the next four years. I'll be in support of that. Uh so when I was lieutenant in the Navy, I used to mentor more more junior officers. They
were generally the the ones that uh you reported fresh on board. you had about three or four years head start on them. And basically your your job was to keep them out of trouble and show them ropes before the higher-ups kind of caugh you caught wind of it. And uh the one thing I I used to tell them all the time is
that you know when times are tough and when the chips are down and you think things are going you know opposite your direction uh you know your people are going to be feeling the same way and they're going to look for you to to to strengthen them and to provide strength. And uh it's up to you whether that
energy you're going to provide is negative or positive. So focus on the positive and make sure you provide that to them. And I tell you this because every time uh during the campaign season and especially last like month or so it it does get pretty tough. Uh each time I
was thinking you know I can't do another event. I can't go out and meet more people. I can't shake more hands. Like kind of enough is enough. I would draw the energy from the people in the room here, the people in the Zoom call and the people that are located all throughout Hadenfield. That's what kept me going. I'd also like to thank my uh my
wife Debbie in greater detail here and obviously my daughter Carly and I'll even throw my dog Jetty in there too by uh being on my side in this journey and also to borrow from past histories. The military thrives because you have two entities. Uh those are for deployed, you
know, front line and the the pointy end of the spear democracy and the people as we used to call it in the rear of the gear and they're both equally important presence and that's how the military works and I can tell you having served with many people over the years my wife does that role better than anyone else
I've ever met. So thank you for supporting me both the last couple months here and especially over the last four years and 25 years of marriage. So people often ask me why I'm doing this uh commissioner that is and uh you know I I've uh the privilege of having relocated a lot for work for uh you know
for eight year or sorry for about 20 years there I reload to eight states and therefore eight cities and uh so I have a nice standard of reference here and I can say unequivocally in the state of New Jersey and anywhere in the uh in the US Hadenfield is the best place to to
live and thank you. Thank you. round of applause and uh I'm a Haden Heights guy originally so like you're actually not even allowed to ever give a compliment to Hadenfield so it says a lot that I'm saying here my mom a retired Haden height school teacher is here witnessing all this so um but I still think that
Hatenfield's best days are in front of us so as for Dave and I look forward to working with both of you Dave continue to work with you after seven months working together and uh Einste is quoted as saying nothing happens until something moves uh so tonight our movements begin thank you all for
attending let's Good work. Next is actually the appointment of the mayor and his swearing in Oh, and his swearing in. And his swearing in um and any remarks that he may have. I
present to you Mayor David Sidell. Okay. And I'll be sworn in tonight by my brother-in-law, John Master. Um, we share the same birthday. We're brothers from another mother.
You Oh, what? Mike, you do this. You do it for 11. We're both. Oh, no. That's okay. We're both loud enough for this. Yes. All right, Dave, repeat after me. I, David Sidell, do solemnly swear. I, David Sidell, who do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the
United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. and to the governments established in the United
States and in this state. and to the governments established in the United States and in this state. Under the authority of the people. under the authority of the people. Furthermore, I do solemnly swear Furthermore, I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully,
impartially, and justly perform that I will faithfully, impartially, and justly perform all of the duties of the office of commissioner of the burrow of Hadenfield. all of the duties of the office of commissioner of the burrow of Hadenfield. According to the best of my ability. According to the best of my
ability. So help me God. So help me God. See, it wouldn't make a lot of sense this uh if if it wasn't also mayor. So, uh so before we dive in tonight, I want to take a moment to thank Mayor Colleen Bianco Bezich for her service to
Hadenfield. Over the past four years, Colleen has helped bring new energy to our downtown, making it a place where people want to gather and celebrate. Her work on securing grants helped make our new police station on Walnut a reality.
And maybe most importantly, she's been one of Hadenfield's biggest cheerleaders, always promoting our town and reminding people why it's such a special place to live. Thank you, Colleen. And good luck on your campaign for Camden County Commissioner. Having someone at the next level that
understands the needs of this town can only benefit Hadenfield's relationship with the county. I also want to recognize a new team, Frank Troy, and Aar Cole. Your three commissioners are ready to get to work. We're committed to working together as one administration
and our goal of keeping Hatenfield moving forward and doing it side by side with each other and with our community. and a special thank you to our friends from our boards of commissions for coming out tonight and organizations. Uh
your support and willingness to do the hard work makes it all work. I'd also want to take a moment to recognize those from the county, the state, and neighboring towns who are here tonight, including um our assembly folks, uh Lou Greenwald of sixth legislative district.
Please stand up, Lou. and Melinda Kaine, assemblywoman for the sixth legislative district, and our Camden County Clerk, Pam Lampet. On Zoom, u, please welcome the
first female mayor of Collinswood, Daniela Salana Ward. Thank you for joining us tonight. Uh, I'd also like to honor uh Jack Tardi, former mayor uh and adviser to everybody up
here. I'd also like Debbie, thank you. Carly, thank you. John, thank you. Judge Rosen, retired Judge Rosen. Thank you very much. Uh, so we truly value all your partnerships and we're excited to keep working
together, not just for Hadenfield, but to help our whole region stay strong and grow in the right direction. And I'd love and I'm internally grateful to my family for their love and support. I can't be here
if you're not there behind me. And finally, and I'll say this honestly, we're new. We're going to be learning, adjusting, making some changes to how things run. We just ask for a little patience while we find that rhythm that works best for us and for the town. So,
thanks again for being here tonight. Let's get started. And you cannot walk in readers. I almost tripped the phone. Deanna, the next item that I have is the authorization to assign departments. May I have a motion?
I'll make the motion. I'll second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole. Got to get used to these. I. Uh, Commissioner Troy. Hi, Commissioner Sidell.
Hi. Next is the authorization to designate a deputy mayor. May I have a motion? I'll make the motion. I'll second. The deputy mayor being Commissioner Troy. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole
I. Commissioner Troy. I. Commissioner Sidell. I. Next is the authorization to determine powers, duties, and authority. I'll make a motion. Okay. Thank you. I'll second
voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy I. Commissioner Sidell I. And next is the authorization to uh approve the schedule for burough commissioner meeting dates for the remainder of 2025. May I have a motion?
I'll make the motion mentioning we've changed one date. Yes. in June uh to coincide with some time to do our budget work. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole
I. Commissioner Troy I. Commissioner Sidell I. Can we have a roll call? Yep. I was going to say a little bit out of order, but we'll do the roll call. Uh Commissioner Cole present. Commissioner Troy present. Commissioner
Sidell present and I will pass the rest of the agenda on to Commissioner Sidell. Thank you, Deanna. Uh, next order of business is proclamations. And the first proclamation Oh, right. Uh, before we
actually get on, I actually have a note. It's the end of the fun portion of the period. So, uh, we'll take a few minutes for anyone that would like to, uh, kind of exit stage right or stage left before we start the rest of our meeting. And I thank you again all for attending and
witnessing the changeover of, uh, this governing body. Thanks very much. I even had it written down. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming. Yeah. Yeah. If you want to take pictures with
Yeah. Take a minute. I know you you already got your pictures. You got pictures with your family already? I did. Yeah. Do you want some with a Yep. Thank you so much. It was easier when you were next door,
Lou. You could just pop in. Exactly. Used to see him in the parking lot. Yeah. He couldn't get away. No, it was easy. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming. A lot easier. Much simpler. We used to be
general simpler though. Yes. They're all fumbling going, should I leave? Do I leave? I don't want to leave. How are you? Have you met Jeremy? He is also helping us with a grant that we received on King Highway. Yeah, you'll be you'll be talking. So,
yeah, lots of contact. That's me. keys. She glorious. Oh Jesus. Where were you? Thank you. All right. Good.
Let's do it. Okay, you ready? Yes, sir. All right, thank you everyone. Uh, now the work begins. Uh, so next on the agenda is proclamations. First proclamation is gun violence awareness day which is June
6, 2025. So I will read the proclamation. Aha, here it is. And I will read this in the entirety. Whereas every day more than 120 Americans are killed by gun violence and
more than 200 are shot and wounded with an average of nearly 43,375 deaths by guns every year. Whereas Americans are 26 times more likely to die by gun homicide than people in other highincome countries.
And whereas New Jersey has 427 gun deaths every year with a rate of 4.8 deaths per 100,000 people, a crisis that cost the state 5.38 billion each year, of which 168.9
million is paid by taxpayers. New Jersey has the fifth lowest rate of gun deaths in the United States. And whereas gun homicides and assaults are concentrated in cities with more than half of all firearm related deaths in the nation
occurring in 127 cities alone. And whereas cities across the nation, including in the Barrow of Hatterfield, are working to end the senseless violence with evidence-based solutions by wearing orange. On June 6th, 2025, Americans will raise
awareness about gun violence and honor the lives of gun violence victims and survivors. And whereas we renew our commitment to reduce gun violence and pledge to do all we can to keep firearms out of the hands of people who should
not have access to them and encourage responsible gun ownership to help keep our families and communities safe. Now therefore be it resolved that the board of commissioners bureau of Hadenfield, County of Camdom, state of New Jersey declare the first Friday in June to be National Gun
Violence Awareness Day and encourages all citizens to support their local community's efforts to prevent the tragic effects of gun violence and to honor and value human lives. Thank you. And I will admit I did
not read the whole thing. It is very, very long. No question. Can we do a photo? Yeah, we don't have one. Yes. Do a photograph. Oh, yes, please. We'd like to bring We'd like to bring up uh the members the current
the local members of the mom's demand action on gun sense or right is it gunsens and we will have the actual proclamations for them later. I was focused on everything else.
someone. Thank you. Okay, perfect. Thank you. It's I just follow some flyers who are having an event on June 9th with the in conjunction with the
county commissioners. It's a concert for wear orange and we'd like to invite everyone to it. There's some extra flyers if you could put it out there so people will know about it. Sure. We'll put it up there. Thank you. The next pro the next proclamation is to
create or to acknowledge pride month the month of June 2025. Is there anyone here for Pride Month? I will read the proclamation. Whereas all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights, LGBTQ plus individuals have had
immeasurable impact to the cultural, civic, and economic successes of our country of our county. And whereas the Burrow of Hadenfield is committed to supporting visibility, dignity, and equality for all LGBTQ plus people in our diverse community. And whereas while
society at large increasingly supports LG LGBTQ plus equality, it is essential to acknowledge that the need for education and awareness remains vital to end discrimination and prejudice. And whereas celebrating Pride Month influences awareness and provides
support and advocacy for the LG LGBTQ plus community and is an opportunity to take action and engage in dialogue to strengthen alliances, build acceptance and advance equal rights. Now therefore, be it resolved by this board of commissioners, Burrow of Hadenfield,
County of Camden, State of New Jersey, hereby recognizes and proclaims the month of June 2025 as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer questioning and plus month, Pride Month in the Burrow of Hadenfield in support
of the LGBTQ plus community. And our last proclamation is interfaith caregivers month. Uh is there anyone from interfaith caregivers tonight? There was but I we uh when they were in the crowd uh so I will read that
proclamation. It was May 2025. Whereas Interfaith Caregivers of Hadenfield was founded in 1990 by Dr. Joan G a retired physician. And whereas the mission of the interfaith caregivers is to provide supportive volunteer services to facilitate independent living for
community members who are elderly and who have a disability. And whereas over 3,000 rides and services were provided in the last year alone. And this was made possible all by volunteers who quietly contribute their special talents.
Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of commissioners, Bureau of Hadenfield, County of Camden, State of New Jersey, we hereby proclaim the month of May 2025 as Interfaith Caregivers Month in the Ber of Hadenfield and ask all residents to join us in recognizing
and thanking Interfaith caregivers, their workers, and volunteers for their dedication and support to members of our community. Thank you. The next will be the meeting minutes of April 28th, 2025. Both the commissioner meeting and the close session meetings.
I've asked to wave the reading of the minutes and approved as submitted. Can I get a motion? Motion to wave minutes and approve as submitted. Second. No. Yeah, I think you have to second. Oh, no, you can't. But then I I Oh, you can second. Right. Right. Right. I did. Second.
Motion in a second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Aier abstains as she wasn't a commissioner at that time. Correct. Abstain. And then uh Commissioner Troy in favor and
Commissioner Sidell in favor. Uh next we'll move to the monthly departmental reports. Uh actually both to one or both. No we voted for both. I asked for both both meetings at the same time instead of
doing them one at a time. Uh the departmental reports. Uh since we have all got it around but we have our burrow engineer here. Uh can I ask you to do your last duty as former commissioner of uh public works? Yes. Uh so thank you
and actually we have both uh Bill Ober and uh and Doug here. So uh we'll go with uh public works first and um Bill if you can give us a summary. Uh started our bed vegetative waste collection daily. Uh we got through
stream cleanup. Uh couple of highlights. Uh we planted 83 trees. Uh, we did take delivery of our long-awaited oneman Leaf truck which will help us tremendously in during leaf season. Raise it up. Sorry, Zoom can't hear you. Oh, should I start
over? No, just just Sorry about that. Uh, like I said, we uh took delivery of our long awaited oneman leaf truck, which will help us. Uh, during leaf season, we had our pothole machine out. We were cleaning inlets. future things we're doing. We're uh
going to get our street sweeper back out and continue to uh mulch and weed and mulched barrel properties and then turn it over to Doug to give us engineering update. Thank you, Commissioner Troy. Um just some highlights here. Uh we recently
submitted a DOT grant called the transmission set aside and that's for various improvements along choose lane and road both storm water walkways and some road work as well as we're working with the burrow to uh select uh potential roads for the the yearly 2026
DOT funded grants. And uh major project work on is the 2025 road program. Uh it is on your agenda night for advertisement. Um, so we're working to finish it up this week and then uh pull June uh bids in June. Right now there's
uh no active construction projects under our purview. And that's my report. All right. Uh thank you both. And just uh to both of you uh in the time that I've been the commissioner for the last four years. Uh Doug was new to the role uh probably about three and a half years
ago or so, probably around the same time I first took over. and then Bill assumed the duties um uh really probably about a yearish or so ago, right? Just about. Okay. And uh it's been a an absolute pleasure working with both of you. Um
the professionalism of uh the public works crew uh the creativity uh even like the uh the the um uh when we're doing the tree program like the competitive spree decor of the of the guys. I think we did a uh a great
job with you doing all the heavy lifting on it. And uh you know I get compliments from people in town all the time about the professionalism of the public works department. everything from recycling collection to, you know, when we take on a tree, the residual afterwards, how it
looks like it never even existed. Truly a great department. I'm going to miss working with you every day, but I'll still see you on my walks every morning. And uh and Doug, uh you know, absolutely a uh a great job. I think um you provide a lot of creativity to the team here. um
improving technology like doing with the uh the road program like we started this year for the first time using violytics instead of doing people walking it by street or you know walking on foot. Um exploring different options for the road program and uh trying to keep things within budget and the flexibility when
we had requests and uh you know special requests from residents out there to try and find a way to to get it done and get it done for them within budget. Um, you're a true partner and uh, really I really enjoyed working with you personally with you personally, Bill, and the entire department. Um, you know,
I I wish I could do it for four more years, but uh, you know, I'm on a different path now, but uh, I'm sure Tier is going to be working with enjoy working with you just the same way that I did. So, thank you very much. And in the spirit of Aspree, I've asked Commissioner Cole to uh introduce both
um Chief Cutler and Chief Gorman in their uh reports, please. Thank you. Chief Cutler, would you like to go first? Thank you, commissioners. I just wanted to first congratulate all of you on your uh recent election and uh swearing in
and I just want to say that I look forward to working with all of you um in the pursuit of public safety. So with that being said, I'm just going to give a a brief uh synopsis of April's monthly stats for the police department. Uh we
answered u 1521 calls for service, which is about average for the month. Um, we uh made 248 car stops. Uh, we issued 514 total summones, uh, parking and moving
violations. And I'm I'm happy to say that we didn't have any burglaries or any motor vehicle thefts in the month of April. So, very proud of that. But other than that, I'll turn it back over to Chief Gorman. Yes. Thank you, Chief Gman. That would be great. Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, that's great. Chief
Gorman, please go ahead. It's very rare. I need a microphone, but uh I guess you wanted me to have it. Um uh first of all, congratulations like Chief Cutler said to uh the elections u the result of the elections. We're all very happy to
have everybody here um and look forward to working with you. Hopefully um you could stop by the station um and have a cup of coffee. Uh I can't say it's the best cup of coffee, but it is free. So uh please stop by. We'd love to say hello and uh show you some of our
equipment. Um we had in our personnel who were on standby there. We had 49 total calls, eight mutual aid calls. Um one serious call here in town on the 27th of April on Spruce Street uh about 300 p.m. went to a second alarm
assignment. Uh it's still under investigation, so I'm not going to talk too much about it um at this point, but it was a great response by us and our mutual aid communities. Um and great teamwork with the police and uh public uh information officer, emergency
management, we all pulled together uh to get the job done. So great, great work. Uh EMS 110 calls, 35 were mutual aid. Um, we have uh something um a couple rumors we want to dispel. Um, one is
that you don't need fire extinguishers in the kitchen. We got a lot of people calling uh the station about that. Uh, it's not true. You still need it within 10 ft of a kitchen or 50 ft of an appliance. All right. There there's talk about not needing it. Um, but until we
get official notification from the state, you still need it. Uh the other is for mulch or anything um combustible material such as that. Uh it needs to be 18 in in public buildings away from any other combustible element. It's a very
good practice for you to use in your house too because uh we do get a lot of spontaneous combustion with mulch um around this time of year and especially in those July and August months. So, um definitely uh something to be cognizant
of. Um nothing else here unless there's anything for me, but again, congratulations and we look forward to working with you. Thank you so much. Back to Mayor Sidell. All right. Uh the only update I'm going to give from
revenue and finance is we've had an election, so now we can finish the budget. Uh so we'll be working on that and it will be at the June 5th meeting. 9th. 9th. That's right. We changed the date. Yeah. So June 9th uh we will be
introducing uh budget talk items, not the budget itself. Yeah. With the items that we need to talk about to finalize the budget will be on the June 9th meeting. I almost gave Sharon a heart attack. Uh so uh with that I'm going to
move on to public comment for items listed on the agenda. This is the period of time where the public has the ability to talk to the commissioners and share their opinion on agenda items only. Uh one adjustment uh that we'll be making
is you will have five minutes to speak. If your five minutes run out, please take a seat. But you will have one more opportunity. If you forgot something to say, if you just want to follow on after we've made comment, uh you will have an additional 3 minutes uh for a second
bite at the apple. We're going to try this out and see how it goes. Uh but so I'll invite anyone from the public first and then Zoom second uh who would like to speak to come to the podium now. Hi, my name is uh Jack Ali from Elm
Avenue, lifelong Hadenfield resident. Um probably going to be a little anomaly from what you usually hear at these type of events where I have no complaints. literally here to thank and congratulate
you guys for putting yourselves out here to serve the town that I've called home for 62 years. I know uh you know there's a lot of balls in the air for all of you, but I just want to go on record and
stick around after roll call and publicly thank you guys for your service. I know it's a thankless job and I appreciate you guys doing this. Thank you. Before I move to Zoom, anyone else from the
public? I see none. Is anyone on Zoom would like to speak? Please raise your hand to be acknowledged and then unmute. We hear you, Ann. Yes. Can you hear me?
Yes, we can. Oh, I had a question. is the $1,900 that uh was being charged for the squir squirmish uh for police uh coverage being waved?
Being waved? No, Annie. No, they're going to be charged $1,900. Yeah. Yes. Uh so here's an understanding about uh events that happened on the on that avenue when we closed down the avenue in years past. We had a very
robust volunteer effort to help us with road management, but over the last few years, uh, some of our neighboring towns have really fell victim to senseless crime during public events. Uh, crowds of people come in, they cause
a disturbance. It just happened a few weeks ago in one of our neighboring towns. So these events now have to have uniform police officers to help crowd control uh and do other things. Our force is limited. So that's usually an overtime opportunity for them. Uh as
well as some of their public works folks. You know, some of these events u take a lot of setup and breakdown. And it's a cost that's born. It's not necessarily borne by the by the event themselves. uh sponsors can be readily and are ready, willing, and able to pick
up that tab. Uh this isn't new. Uh and it's not something that we we even can bear. Uh but one of the things you don't understand is there are some events that Hadenfield burrow the administration will be committed to holding and funding
and you'll see those items in the budget. There are others. We are great partners with the partnership for Hadenfield. while they want to close down the road and have events. Uh, and they will bear the cost of police
services, public works services, extra trash pickups. But again, these are opportunities that they're willing to bear themselves or find sponsorships to have. And then there's that third tier of events that are either county related or community events that are put on by
somebody like the the Lions Club, the Rotary, others. they too need to have the protection of our uniformed officers and it comes at a cost. It's it's not something we can we can wave uh because it's an it's an
opportunity for those events to actually happen but to have that opportunity. It comes at the price of protection. Well, they never had to pay it before and uh we can use auxiliary
police and I I think if you're going to charge it, the partnership for Hadenfield should be be taken out of it should be taken out of their budget because downtown and all the restaurants are really going to benefit from this huge event.
So, I don't think the burden should be on the skirmish uh to have to pay $1,900. I I I just think it's tremendously unfair and unnecessary. We wave fees all the time for events
downtown and I don't think it's fair to them. Oh, I appreciate the feedback, Annie. We really do. And it's something that we'll have to really come to grips with and then come up with a solution uh that protects the crowd and also is not a
surprise uh to any organization which it shouldn't be. So thank you. Is there anyone else from Zoom who would like to make comment? Disgraceful. Absolutely disgraceful.
I understand. All right. Uh, seeing no more comments, uh, we'll close public comment. Can I get a motion to close the public comment period for items listed on the agenda? Motion to close for public comment. Second. Voting on that motion.
Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy. I. Commissioner Sidell. I. Next. Resolutions under the consent agenda. Resolutions in the consent agenda listed below on the agenda have been placed by the board of
commissioners and will be enacted in one motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless requested by an individual commissioner. Uh I will read them off one at a time. We will vote on them at one fall swoop.
So, authorization to pay vouchers, the authorization to grant a totally exempt veteran status and cancel the 2025 tax bill as of March 31st, 2025. Authorization to amend resolution 2025428051 for the 2025 skirmish event.
Authorization to approve general event permit application for Elizabeth Haden PTA. Authorization to outdoor marketing graphic displays for various uh uses. Authorization to provide a parking permit for the citizen of the year.
Authorization for the submission of an application to the New Jersey Department of Transportation for the fiscal year 2025 transportation alternative set aside program and authorization to support New Jersey Department of Community Affairs LEAP grant application
for the consolidation of six municipality shared service by the Burough of Somerdale as the lead agency. Uh Dave, if I can just speak to that just for a moment or maybe even ask Sharon to uh to expound on that just because I had the same question about it prior to seeing the um the resolution is
this is for basically the court system that is being shared, not for the LEAP grant that we had for uh the first responder LEAP grant uh two years ago. So uh in case anyone does not have the agenda, that's what this is for. And we're doing this more or less anyway.
We're one of the six municipalities that outsource our court to Somerdale and um they're doing some work and want to get want to offer a grant and we have to join on that. Uh I will mention the the parking permit for the citizen of the
year. Uh David Hunter is in attendance. Uh it was a hell of an idea then. Um, it is a financial b. It's a financial uh gift from the bureau to the recipient. So, it needs to be voted on by roll call uh by
all three commissioners because it is revenue that the taxpayer is not going to uh enjoy. Uh the parking permit is how much, chief? It's a $50 uh award to the citizen of the year. 20
20 right so so that's why that is on the agenda for approval uh the citizen of the year unfortunately uh could not make it tonight to receive it in person uh but um we'll drop it off uh can I get a motion to approve uh the
items of the consent agenda I just clarify Mr. Mayor. So for the record, these are resolutions number 202569 through 76. Oh, I apologize for not saying the numbers. As I said, patience while we learn. Uh so can I get
a motion for resolution items 2025 069 to 076. Motion to approve uh resolutions under consent agenda 25-069 through 25-076. I second. Voting on that motion.
Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy I. Commissioner Sidell I. Uh next our resolutions. We'll take them one at a time. Uh resolution 2025 077 authorization to approve the postclosing escrow holdback agreement. That's a lot
to say. And a first amendment to the purchase and sale agreement. and a first amendment to the redevelopment agreement in connection with the property known as block 11 lot 3 or commonly known as Boxwood Hall on the official tax maps of the burrow and authorizing execution of
the same uh could we get a description for the public that's you s s Thank you Mr. I apologize. Um, so it's it's a minor amendment with regard to the agreement which is already in existence which calls for the closing
date rather than a date specific. It changes it so that it's 15 days after the final state approval. Obviously, it's a historic structure. There's a number of levels of state approval. As it's currently in the agreement, there's a specific fixed date which obviously
it's it's better for the agreement to have it as after the final state approval. Thank you for explaining it. Uh, can I get a can I get a motion to approve 2025 077? Motion to approve.
Second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy. I. Commissioner Sidell. I. Next. 202578. Authorization to advertise for request for proposals for specific uh,
and is the dates wrong in here? Is it 2025 2026? No. Yeah, it should be 2026. Yep. 2025 2026 professional services burrow planner burrow solicitor redevelopment planner bond council
burrow engineer and burrow engineer conflict and special projects. Mayor, before we move forward on a motion for this resolution, can we have a motion to change the due date to June 12th since we have moved our action meeting in June? Oh, good point. Uh,
I'll make the motion to move the due date for these requests for proposals to June 12th, 2025. A second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole, I. Commissioner Troy,
hi. Commissioner Sidell. I now I would unless there's discussion uh I'll ask for a motion to uh approve the amended resolution 078 um as specified.
Motion to approve 078 as amended. Second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy. I Commissioner Sidell. I
next 2025 079 authorization to advertise for sealed bids for the 2025 road program. This is something we do every year. Uh we go out to bids for some of our roads to get fixed. Uh can I get a motion? Motion to approve. Second.
Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy. Hi. Commissioner Sidell. I. Uh, next 2025 080 authorization to advertise for sealed bids, tree and stump removal. Can I get
a motion? Oh, would you like So for the the two that you have in front of us here, just in case anyone was interested, um, anything any tree larger than 25 inches in diameter, we don't have the wherewithal to take those down. So each year we have about well depending each year it's called around
20 to 40 depending on the cost. we send out for bid and take those down. And then for stump and stock, which is the next one we're discussing, what we've done to improve um um to prove our efficiency is basically the ones that we can uh remove
to a certain point, our crew will basically cut them down, leave them as a stock, and within the next I'd like to say 12 months. It's usually about with within the next like kind of 18 months. Those are all taken down by a separate company that we sent out to bid much it
allows us to do this much faster than remove them down to you know below grade so to speak and especially the stump and stalk removal although he's not setting any land speed records the last two years uh he does do great work is a very
competent contractor it just takes a little bit longer than we would like but um this I think was a significant improvement to the tree program over the last few Thanks for the explanation. Reasonably priced. Reasonably priced. Yeah. So, uh I will make the motion for 080
authorization to advertise for seal bids, tree and stump removal. Can I get a second? Second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy. Hi. Commissioner Sidell. I next 202581. Uh authorization to advertise
for seal bids for the stalk and stump removal. Can I get a motion? Motion to approve uh 2025-01. I second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole I. Commissioner Troy.
Hi. Commissioner Sidell I. Uh and last on the resolution agenda uh 202582 authorization to advertise for sealed bids for just stump removal. I'll make the motion. Can I get a second? Okay. Thank you. Voting on that
motion. Commissioner Cole, I. Commissioner Troy, hi. Commissioner Sidell, I um next we'll move to public comment on non-aggenda items. Uh same rules apply. Five minutes uh with a extra three if
you've forgotten anything. Uh can I get a motion to open to public comment on non-aggenda items? Motion. Second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole. Hi. Commissioner Troy. Hi.
Commissioner Sidell. Hi. We're open for public comment and anyone like to come up. Thank you. David Hunter 260 Windsor Avenue. Um for the benefit of Commissioner Cole. Since my name was mentioned a few minutes ago with respect to the free
parking permit for the citizen of the year. Um I proposed that in 2007 which was the year after I was the citizen of the year. I circulated a petition and it was signed by every living citizen of the year at
the time 21 people. Two of them were commissioners and so presented the petition and nothing happened. Even though two of them were commissioned, nothing happened. So you need to know about the definition of
Hadenfield time. Addenfield time is when you're working on a project and you figure out how long it's going to take and then you triple it. I haven't done the calculation for the citizen the year but it's headfield time plus
plus. So factor that in to your projects time. Thank you. Would anyone else like to come to the lectern? Seeing none in the room, would anyone online like to uh make any comment on
non-aggenda items? Seeing none, I'll make a motion to close public comment on nine agenda items. Did I get a second? Second. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole, I. Commissioner Troy, hi. Commissioner Sidel.
I um do we have any closed items to take care of? All right. Uh then I'll make a motion to close uh this meeting and say good night to everyone. Can I get a second? Oh, well I we'll press will do afterwards. Joan doesn't want to be on the record anyway. So and and she's the
only one in attendance, but no, good point. Oh, Abigail's on 12, but we'll hold Zoom. Oh, actually we can't. So I'll stop. Uh, Abigail, would you like to uh ask any questions of the three commissioners or anyone on the DES? All right. Thank you. Uh, then I
will make a motion to close. May I have a second? Second. Second. All right. Voting on that motion. Commissioner Cole with the second. She beat Frank. Okay. All right. I'm voting on that motion. Commissioner Culp I. Commissioner Troy I.
Commissioner Sidell. I. Thank you everyone.