>> HSD Broadcast: Oh right, Mr. Call the music order. Mike can you call Mr? Lucky. Miss Dress. Yeah. Let's try somewhere here. This Hollywood here. Mr. Knuckles here. Here you saw it. Yeah, Vice
President Hooker here President Crooked. Yeah. He? Said, the United States. Mike, could you please read the statement concerning open? Public meetings Public notice of this meeting for shown to the
Open Public Meetings Act has been given by the Superintenders Schools in the following matter on January 9th, 2016 notice of this meeting was posted on the
interior of the school administration offices. 95 grocery hadfield. Written notice was Amazaro clerk and notices for email to the carrier
post in the retrospect newspaper. Okay, we're Gonna get a with the 2020. T,
Innovative teacher Grant Awards. Thank you for coming. Hi. I'm Kathy Morris on behalf of the
HGT. Trust. I'm pleased to present this check. For 29,333.60. Just fun to selected teacher, innovative grants. Yeah. Serious. Recipients represent all levels of the district
include some big ticket items to improve the health and wellness and the learning environment these grants include for all schools
agreement fund, various activities and programs to support mental health suicide prevention, which were funded by the rally in the alley proceeds. For the high school. There's a
brand new, Yamaha U1 piano for the Hmhs Choir, which is expected to last for, about 20 years engineering, and structure kids for hands-on modeling with
engineering program. A grant for Hmh Wellness Hub, a transformation project in the Nurses office, is also funded by the rally in the alley.
Fundraising For the elementary schools. We have a pilot program across the district using a class engagement toolkit and for the preschool and kindergarten
their special drawings that are used for social and emotional learning through Johnson circles. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much. We're definitely. Okay. You just posing for nothing. just, So, thank you guys for this,
obviously, because every year there's a wonderful and Jennifer with your hard work and Giving to our teachers they can do things go a little bit beyond
with you but if you look when you go through agenda today this is one of five gifts the HTTPS give you the total over half a million dollars. I mean the work
you guys do how much you care about our students? And our and our school districts is amazing on behalf of the women's education. The 2800 kids all their parents other community members. I
cannot begin to tell my gratitude for this and I know I know it's a lot of work, your meetings, I All of them because
there's too many. Um, but I just want to keep my sincere appreciation. Thank you for everything you do first. It can't be. I don't have have the words for So thank you very
much. Thank you. Pellegrini. You okay, good evening. So we're here to share the njsla peer comparison data from the previous years and it's late
results. And what we have is we do have comparison to four different peer groups. We have the Statewide and Camden County peer
group, as well as the Tftj, which is what I believe that the data was compared with in years past Sorry, in addition to that, we
also have a zero to 10% free and reduced lunch which is another data point for us to compare our njsla results. Do it's important to note that that result kind of allows us to have a larger data
pool. There's 124 schools that are in the zero to 10 percent free and reduced lunch range, which is what I hadn't peeled. Also is, um, which might at
times be a little bit easier to compare our data to than the dfg districts where we only have 25 of those districts. And of those
districts, not only nine of them are K-12. um, There are three scatter plots here. The top left. And is the percent three and reduced lunch
compared to the percent meeting proficiency or exceeding proficiency on the njslay and ela same thing with math in the top, right? And what I'd like to know about both of these data
points is that they show very, very strong correlation, the ELA results, have an R squared, value of 0.72. Mathis point seven, both those values are
very, very high correlations. Saving, you know, the percentage of your school district that is on free to reduce lunch, very highly correlates with the
percentage of students that we meeting or exceeding standards on the engines like the bottom of the science. One is a little bit different and I think that's
something for us to take into consideration as we start to really dig into That science test and how we can improve our results in sign on the science
ndsla, given that it doesn't actually show as much correlation as the other two. Over. So, it doesn't seem a
little weird to be talking about results from last spring, But as you remember, hopefully, from last fall, we talked about how
we compared our results to the state testing results. But we did not have our food comparisons and we talked about how we would come back to you
once we got those results which we get from winket. They send us a big report that is actually, at the end of this. this slide show. So I'm the lucky one who gets to talk about
our ela results. And I say that because our ela results we outperformed every We outperform the dfdj average at every grade level from three through nine. So every single grade level exceeded, the average of dfg,
and our average was the 5% Above average score, what's gfg stand? So that's a district factor group. So essentially back in what was the 2000? So in
the last. Yeah, so the state originally me fact district factor groups to kind of group schools with comparable school districts.
From the 2000 census data. So it is still a data point, it's a special economic. Yeah, just it's, I think some people might get Confused. We always say Jay
District. So it just that might be, that's helping And this is the first year that we actually got the comparison to the Korean reduced lunch as well because that is updated every year. So
that's actually a very strong comparison group for us to look at. So I have those highlighted, I haven't feel highlighted that
zero to 10% creative reduced lunch, and then the dsgj. So if you take a look at our results, this is a five year trend. So this the latest purple is 2018-19 and
of course we have the pandemic so there was no testing and then each subsequent year with the darkest purple being the
last year's results. So we averaged about five percent above dfg, districts and 10% of our Korean reduced, lunch peers. So this This chart or this
graph? I really like because it shows our year over year, momentum that we had over those five years of testing. in terms of positive trends.
What it doesn't show which I have is my last little point is that our not meeting or partially meaning those lower tiers are also lower than our
peer groups. So ours is 3% or 4%. Sorry in and the J districts are seven percent of not meeting our partially meaning. So our
students who are achieving are higher and our students who are in the lowest two scoring categories are also lower. So, very positive results for English language arts. I wanted to just highlight a few gray. So
I'm not going to go. We're not going to go through every single great. Had a very further report back in October, but I wanted to highlight some exceptional
grades, so ingrides four and five. They both actually had the highest. Advantage over the J district. So, both rates warrant
by this is only fifth grade, but both had a 8% advantage over the J districts. In terms of great seven. And this is also true for grade Eight. We outperformed our peers by 5%, in terms of
jade districts and 9% in terms of premium refused lunch. I highlighted grade seven here, although Brady also had the same
Positive trend. I highlighted grade 7 because this was the grade that we were most concerned about the first year that I came into this position,
as you can see by some of those lower scores over those, two years there and the improvement is really dramatic, even if you look at our pre-pandemic scores there at
81% Fact that we are 10% above our prepandex scores is really notable. and very positive. And then our grade that we have the most concern about this year was ninth
grade because we had a 10% drop from the year before we talked about. Well, that could be testing, it could be cohort, it could be instruction. So we really needed to see these results in order to
determine whether this was a statewide trend or was unique to our students. And as you can see here, the decline was statewide and systemic so rather than a local anomaly, both green reduced peers, having
nine percent dftj have an 11% drop. And we had a 10% drop. So we still are scores. We're still 1% higher than the average of the day districts but this was
reassuring to see that. This trend. Um, take a look at the math and we can see is that our math averages, although or a little bit below our day districts,
there are two percent on average below but they're also 5% higher than our free and reduced lunch. I think another important thing you can see is
that there's also again, so that positive trend and we're the only one of those that actually is now improved compared to where Are free covid. So we're
actually starting pre cohort. 72, We've now up at 75%, we've actually increased on that. So I think that's a very positive result Again, I have a couple
on grades to highlight and just, you know, highlight some of the stuff that we need to improve on. In addition to some of the areas that we've been quite
successful at um elementary math. Grades three, great four. great five. Each of those grades were above the day districts on average and great for in
particular with six percent higher than the J district and 14% higher than the freeway
reduced lunch. So, really, very strong results there in the elementary world. Grade Six was a grade that, you know, I think that I mentioned at the previous presentation, it is an area where we really want
to concentrate. It is significantly lower than both comparison groups. There's a new curriculum being implemented
this year as well as For development opportunities to support the teachers. So, there's been an increase emphasis there.
Math 8. Math 8, There's a couple things we do want to look here. Firstly, this is a one of our lower ones, but this is an area where we do mirror both
comparison groups, both the free reduced lunch as well as the day districts. But this is also an area where we want to put in emphasis to ensure that we can have all of our students needing
grade level as expectations. moving on to science science, Just a quick note that science is only tested in grades five, eight and eleven averages were seven percent below. Our J District
peers 2% will above our free reduced lunch peers, we do have year-over-year momentum with a 5% improvement since the, you know, Pre-covid years and one other interesting thing. I think I would like to
note when we take a look at the average data, and we compare ourselves to the data districts is that the J districts are disproportionately. There's only
10 of them that are K-12, right? So, at which point they're disproportionately representing the elementary school elementary grades which are
typically as we'll see higher percentages of meeting or exceeding results. so looking at grade 5, we do actually exceed the JD districts here by two percent, we're 10%
higher than our free and reduced lunch peers, and again, we can see that we've had that, you know, Momentum throughout that
with improvement throughout the last five years. Grade 8 is where we do. See a drop again, this is the result for lower than both dfg as day districts, as
well as our free and reduced lunch peers. And here we actually have started put an increase emphasis by led the curriculum aligning our
curriculum with the NJ SLS standards and we implementing professional development. Incorporating, the njs less 3D learning goals. To just finished last Tuesday. A
full day. One, a third of old APD on implementing 3D, learning standards. Similar in Grade 11, where we're 11%. Jake below the J digit, but we are the same percentage as
our free and reduced lunch peers. again. This one is something that we should see more immediate. improvement on giving that we have two new science courses.
That have been introduced at the high school. That will ensure that all students are receiving all of the Earth science as well as physics standards.
in addition to that. They've also been the teachers at the high school, the receiving the same training. It's the middle school in the njs less 3D learning standards. so again, the complete report
That we shared with us. Finally, it is linked for the board members here, so that if you'd like to evaluate, I think it's a hundred pages or cells live under time. You're
welcome to do. So they do break it down by all kinds of information, as well as taking, a look at each grade level. Are
interested in that it's linked here and we're open to any questions. If you haven't. I just got a quick question to clarify because I feel like I
remember you had this in our meeting yesterday. The Grade 8 scores in math, Do those not include the eighth graders that are taking like algebra? Yes,
it's not actually Grady as math, it's only I just wanted to make sure it's mathy. Yeah, students. Who are taking out for one interest rate? That's where their scores are. Yes. So
there's yeah, actually, unfortunately it's a little bit harder with this one in the original presentation, I had to break down. Yeah, of eighth
grade algebra. One eighth grade math and then high school. But unfortunately, with this report they don't split the eighth
graders who are taking algebra one from the 9th graders you're Thank you. Any questions? Thank you. Great presentation.
So much. Appreciate it. Thanks. Hey Curriculum Committee. Yes you we had a lot of them. Yeah. Yeah. I will say. You know, actually just one note that I want to make. So thank you very
much to for that presentation and I think it's also good to see that we overall are above the treatment levels even with the average of the scores.
Um, so the other a short update for some of the curriculum stuff. So we were looking at A new recommendation for a summer reading of Lovecraft. Country for 11th. Grade
accelerated English. And it was just nice to see how that has crossed curricular connection. The themes and things coming up in the book are also things that they'll be
learning about in history class. So to kind of see that coming together and then the other thing that we discussed a lot about. Thank you, Mr. Russos for a very thorough presentation of the
options for the mandated cursive education. So I thought that was really interesting to see. So there were a number of different programs out there, but the one
clifter is a free resource that has a number of modules and resources and that it can teachers kind of line up with their curriculum but that all
the other programs had initial startup from 7,000 to 19 thousand dollars. And then with annual free per student cost. I can use
my words today around up to $18. So just some interesting thoughts. Yeah. And now, with Clipper, we would print the material. Yeah, which we are here. So, but it's not Yeah, I
always say but so definitely. I mean, it definitely saves my. I just think because we were talking about how much for the print were cutting all that. We've been cutting those costs
over time so we would have to account for That. So as a reminder this is the result of Governor Murphy. Yeah. Going legislation that he signed inquiring cursive. Handwriting, instructions,
three, four, five, despite the maybe you've always well for the past several years, we have been doing great three. So as the result of this unfunded
eight we're we're required grace for five stars. And I will say on that note, too. Shut up again to this results for
being resourceful and already working with the third grade teachers of going through the workbooks and using the unused pages in those workbooks. I mean, I think it's if those, if
those little things that I do think add up really big in the end. So that's one of my favorite points made in the meeting was might have teachers
who never learned that personally. We need to. Get one things where you put the chocolate here. and I guess it was right. Yeah,
what? I just hear it squeaky exactly. Humans being able to read primary sources they already know you. There's that I On the handwriting. And
a lot of the new Reserve years. Shows processing is deeper. Retention is better. When we we handwrite you really and it's really diminished dramatically when you're when you're just
typing and also even prevent their evenings, finding prevention against like dementia and Alzheimer's. Yeah. Right later certain number 15 words that I
Providing in the ground. You haven't read in cursive since grade six, you know, I have to be writing in cursive but if you're going to encourage students to take notes down
writing quickly and cursive eyes, good and it's just, it is good because you do process a differently when your hand is moving doesn't artistic aspect.
So there's a lot. Yeah, you can't. Transforming to a lot of students having really detailed notes, that don't really don't know anything for them because they haven't.
What? And it does, I mean, when you're writing as you're taking notes and pulling things in, you're getting more like across neural, communication, and lighting up different areas of
your brain. And so that's actually building stronger connections rather than it just being one area of the brain. Let's say if you're typing or
highlighting something but I will also say, I do appreciate the focus on, not just writing the cursive, but reading it to a stuff is saying of that part
like that. What's built into these curriculums is the importance of learning. how to read it because then there are so many things like primary source, documents that are
written in script that then parts from the grandma. Well, exactly, All right. Staff finance. Yes. So we have a
small, but mighty group on Tuesday for finance committee. We first talked about the middle school. Eighth grade gift. They
would like to. make signs for the middle school and Chestnut Street to both identify that building as the middle schools. There's no signage on that street and to identify the auditorium and the
gymnasium. They're looking at approximately four grand for that. And the student council is looking to raise funds for the gift. Our feedback was that we
would love to accept such a gift But we cannot contribute funds to that project, we would welcome it if they can raise the funds. We got an update from Mr. Klaus Mr. Catalano. About the meetings
that are being held with youth, athletic groups that they're progressing some good discussions Therefore meetings that are remaining. They're going to update us.
All of those have concluded. But again, reiterating for all of those groups that the goal is to recoup additional costs, incurred like custodians and keeping the buildings. Open
later versus making money from those community youth athletic groups. we talked briefly about communication, towers is potential source of revenue and
also just general improvement for the community to be able to have service. And they are going to their some interest with the carrier, they're going
to get back to us about possibilities. And then it's an unusual month because the budget we're having another
meeting next week. so, Current finance news. Stay tuned next week. All right, Machine.
Yes, the policy committee met on the morning of Tuesday, February, 3rd. And we had a pretty hefty agenda. We went through a few policies for first reading
first was Policy Zero one four. Two point. One on nepotism stress US may recommended that. We aligned enough to some policy with the state administrative
code. This policy states that We are not allowed to employ any relatives of the superintendent, or any relatives of any members of the Board of Education,
because we're the people who are directly involved with approving hires and with salary negotiations, for employees of the district. It's in, this is a mandated policy
and it needs to be implemented in order to received Um, then we looked at Policy 12:20 implement of chief school
administrator. also known as the superintendent. This policy outlined important aspects of hiring a superintendent such as what the qualification should
be, and how to seek out the best candidate. We also agreed to add the same language into the policy that is currently in
the contract for Chuck. then which lays out there expectations for what position means and it allow for more
clarity and consistency going forward. Um, then we looked at Policy and Regulation 50 1552 on sexual harassment. So, these are new and mandated policies, a policy and
regulations, excuse me, The previous sexual harassment policies is listed in two different places and then staff to students who had to file,
they would either file under Title 7 or Title Nine. And both these have like different approaches to how to handle looking for payments. So now
with the new policy, it's going to consolidate all the all that those methods under one comprehensive place. So it renders the previous policies and regulations unnecessary. So, on the agenda tonight, you're
going to see that we're going to move to a abolish. Those policies policy and regulation 3362 and policy in Regulation
432, For second reading, we had policy regulation 2430 on co-curricular activities, which we spoke about at the last public meeting and we had no further discussion or questions
on that. and the policies that we looked at for review were policy 4321 acceptable, use of computers and resources by support staff.
We looked at existing practices to make sure that technology is used in a school appropriate manner. and incidentally, this policy, which creates a lot of the current technologies that
we use might actually be applicable to the guidelines that we're developing, right now. For AI usage. policy, 43, 22 staff, use of personal cell phones, which the
expectation, of course, has always been that staff members. need to be attentive during the work hours and I'll be destructed by the phones. So this policy just served as a reminder for that. And also for
staff actually, by example, because now phones are banned in classrooms for the new state ending. Policy 43 24, Right of privacy for support staff members, the
policy just explains expectation for privacy and a public school setting for support staff. members. Given that there's a lot of shared
spaces for work for keeping materials and storage etc. The last policy is 4340 the grievance policy. This went over the appropriate chain of command if there's any issue
reported by an employee and just reiterated that network should be made to keep the complaints to have a complaints. Be resolved at the lowest level possible. Road supervisors are
closer to the situation. yeah, I wanted the things we talked about with grievances is that there's a chain to command just
like when we have families, come with a grievance and we need to follow that genie command, it's really important that that same chain of command is followed
when there's a staff or an employee improvements. Um, okay. And All right. Thank you,
machine. Anyone questions for an issue? watch on policy that Seems just a little. Bit quick commentary on the
sexual harassment piece. So she first of all, you did a great job with that. Okay, there are a lot of legal presence. That a lot of red. Acted right now.
machine correctly pointed out that this policy now incorporates both title nine entitle seven protections for staff members, so the interestingly not the title Nine piece was extended based on
a it was a 1982 Supreme Court precedent. and there's currently An appeal for the 11th circuit to the Supreme Court as to whether Title Nine implies. To
staff for Sexual Harassments which is students right now, Title Nine protections do not apply across the country where I think it only in three of the
circuits are Third Circuit, could be one. so we have the potential, it's a Supreme Court, hears that case we think based on precedent this current
Supreme Court made overturn that which a so if you see the policy coming up again next year, it's because of that. All
right. Thank you. And Mike we did not have lrfd, we have that Monday. PTA Updates. um, so just quickly, we had I thought a really great budget
discussion and the middle school PGA, asked a lot of really great questions and had a lot of I think some unique ideas on like even just different ways of
count actually, even like work as a PTA of where to be putting their energy and efforts and in understanding, The budget in
that way. And one comment that that was mean that I thought was interesting, was that They someone had asked for a little
bit more transparency in the communication around, like, where fees go for like whether it's like, the activity fees or like the
Chromebook fees or something like that. So, that was just one thing that was brought up. Yeah, and just to, yeah, I think the other part of that was a sentiment that There might be
willingness to pay more show. Yes. If people have sort of understood my 50 bucks, there was a sentiment of like, Yeah. We as the PTA don't want to
just hit parents up relentlessly like 25 for this 30 for this that a more coordinated approach and their consolidating to understand what stuff. The money goes towards means that
maybe they could say Hey there's a lump sum. we're gonna hit you up once in September, and then we won't hear from us till January, so. And I thought that
was a really good point. Yeah, so just going to give me some really nice feedback with that. Well, Wednesday night, they have their ice skating. night at the Cooper River Ice
Cream and it was packed, it was packed. I was there a drop off and pick up seems like I'm saying at least Seems like it was a good time and that this weekend is the 8th
grade teacher on Saturday. And then I know they have a couple Rick calls coming up, I think in like March and Services. Like the only one. Yeah, apparently there was a lot
of s'mores making that was a highlight power but for the kids and one of them not so emotionalists, some marshmallows may have been from between the
girls. That's Um, so we had a very good meeting I guess. Also last recently that's Central as always great turnout, lots of great questions. Chuck was the
star as always getting to talk about budget. He did great job and popular guy and really some really great questions. Actually, we're there for quite some time not as long as as you're lazy meeting, I think.
But some really good conversation. interest and I think similar just to what we heard from the middle school folks kind of interest in curiosity around PTA collaboration being very careful
about kind of Social distinction between the PTA groups. But this idea that hey PTAs, you know, we know there
are powerhouse, how do we? How and where can we invite them to to help support? some of what we're working on from a budget perspective. And then the other thing that came
out was that we talked about rather was We were trying to explain the complexities and stuff. Did a good job as did
Chuck and Mike of, you know, the whole issue around the fair, fair, funding appropriate funding and there was a direct ask for kind of talking points
and how can we as parents? communicate advocating, like, exactly and communicate with legislators and make the case that the current way. This is structure, doesn't make sense. and so, Jamie and I went back
and forth and we I think I ended up deciding Jamie's version was better than mine, so we identify the changes. I mean, she is a
published author. So I'm a healthcare. I get. But anyways, so we've shared that with them and we can also distribute that to the other liaisons
because I think it's a really helpful one-pager. It's succinct, it takes a pretty complicated issue and, you know, it's a nice way That folks can
spend 10 minutes, sending an email, it has contact info for
legislators In there. So it was a good. All right. Great. All right, we have the
regulation, 2530 resource materials. Just for our information. Dr. Crayola. Do you have anything? But two items. One we just wrapped up our edkp which is our extended day kindergarten
program lottery for the 2026-27 school year across our three schools. We have 176 families express interest for total of 75 seats across the district. So
parents that got those notices actually, what we are process includes posting, the results based on their lottery numbers, we did that last night. So that's anonymized information and we do
that. So parents can know, right off the bat. what what their status is. And we followed up today with more in-depth depth
information contract and all the other things I answer many questions parents have So our wait lists currently at Central School. It's 42
students. Deep 23 deep it had in and 30 at Central. And it's the wait list. Oh located. Yes. Third in case people get up there slot just checks through it. Almost
unanimously people. One thing the extended day kindergarten I don't I don't just sounds like a lot of 75, so it's, it's definitely the majority.
Yeah, that's what I have. Definitely the majority overall. Yeah like I only know the number of Tatum I think they were like And families that didn't okay.
Well and on average about four students come off the wait list. So not many do we had a bit of an anomaly last year it had. and I think nine
came up That was the. Largest. Probably the most pressing question that I gotten since the letters have gone out. We've had multiple people
painful over. okay, what they came before we have people talking about before, oh well maybe and then
the other piece as a last Friday, our AI survey closed. Again, the function of this survey is to get input as to how we develop either, a formal policy, or a guidance documents or students and staff. We have
total 395 respondents, which is Which is good more than we get in a typical survey and that was across parents students and staff. The majority was for parents,
261 submissions, 54 from staff and 77 from students. So the next steps in that we will break down the data, try to understand what are our stakeholders are, telling us
where they asking us to do also be doing follow-up, Focus groups with students and staff, who express interest in that?
So that's a work in progress. Well yeah. A hot channel, yeah. I mean that. Was like this chat
gpt props that are gonna like things are getting much worse. Klaus is and some of the things that they're people that are using AI, don't realize that
there's codeine generated. And they the smarter than the Ais. There's injection that's happening and people who are trusting the AI. Like, I guess that's fine. And
Not that I enjoy. It is in order to evaluate. Any of this? Is checked in. Education. Alright,
like the training that we had on like if it's instructs you you to open up your terminal, oh yeah, like recaps which we had
just talked about it because I was getting the real. I wasn't getting my Gmail was not recapping what I should respond and now like I open up an
email, it says you can write and it drafts what I should say. I don't follow it because I have, I mean I don't think I would but the training may be aware of
You should not just be following around and Says, like the only way to evaluate whether or not it's doing a good job is to
have a base of knowledge again. Yeah. the trick is putting that into the educational setting but we want them to get Um and nails. That's it. All
right, Mr. Klaus you have anything. A few things. Um, I open up my story, myself evaluation or June board
meetings, very early. So we'd like to talk about the board by May so there's a look at it. But the board is also considered
their self-evaluations so that's open now, too. So whatever you do that. I'm going to Brooklyn just so they know. I have to go in and put in our board. goals.
course you, but I will I'll make myself an answer to do that but bring you some notes in the 2020 counter next week. We were started talking about that. You
know, we started talking about budgets really doing back and forth with those things to talk discussing that one thing I
found interesting is two neighbors, very well and and you both were school on Monday because their first no makeup page president. giving up a spring break day they get through to do that
something. That's something to bring up and discussion. And then the final note, If you have children in high school and your team, tell them, I'm sorry that I close the lot and find your clothes for good. A
parental further news. The materials that's repair right now are over $10,000. Plus the labor is going to take for our
team to do it. In 10 weeks, I'll be closed anyway, because we're putting to our field there. So I'm not struggling with that's $10,000 in materials
into something that's going to be there for eight weeks. Yeah I just buy better. Close it being closed to off all those things. Once I talk to Tim tomorrow about that,
what we are looking at is when we go to when there's actual heavy equipment there for the field, if they can develop a shorter more direct lot with material with, the equipment,
they have at which we couldn't do it, we'll be taking thing like Draw a lot by the carriage house directly and we can't do. So,
we're gonna look at that possible. Hey. I don't really have anything because we're gonna talk a lot about the budget, so I'll save
it. Okay. Here's our community. I'll discussion with the budget right now. You're going to recognize most of these slides because they are probably recapturing. So we don't
remember where we were some of the later slides and has no changes to them. Once again, I put this up here, This is important because We've got to
do this. We've got to do this with the budget. That's part of what we have to keep them balance. The easy to say, do X, y, or Z? but if you don't go
back and say, how did that affect our ability to do this is when we can get caught some mire. The first same four
things numbers are changing. They change the late, the numbers of this slide presentation, change it to 40 today, Mike and I want to numbers. They'll change again by
noon tomorrow. No decision that made about anything impact potential of cuts that we say, once again, referendum, budget cannot be
used. This is our challenge. This has not changed. Just refreshing where we are with 3%, tax lighting, it's 840. You know what? Just, I need a group 50
but just salaries and benefits or put us up 1.5 million dollars behind before anything else. But to do those in the bottom,
Since we've got that presented this we realized through our doing our number counts. We're not going to add before we have to add a middle school. Special. Ed teacher. We do not need to do
that. And we were going to add three half-time positions to support them moving of Ed edkp. It's had to locate it at Central
School. That's not gonna happen. So we don't put those positions in one of the men just to expand our our staff a little bit for edkp. So right there is
how this this, this is, the flux, will it be in every day? This is the tax. Lady numbers, in Scotland has not changed 6.45 is our maximum tax impact tax
increase. We can go These are our largest increases. I highlight these. I've got this last time, but you notice the biggest thing right there. The
least purchase issip. We got, we're getting 350,000 in rebates against. So what will happen? There is Michael take that money
and I'll put it into Budget, fund balance and then I'll push that forward. So we'll add the rebates in the budget, phone balance and we'll increase our budget fund balance to make
sure everything thousand dollars and that's cutting into the budget right there. So, that's the savings we got across the day easily. We're gonna get a
decent presentation next week. We hope by then or maybe a little bit after that, they'll be able to project call savings. So if all this work
done to provide more Instructed efficient. Thank you. Use of our facility of our materials, then we'll be able to
see call savings in that as well. The one thing we have not added in yet is the Transportation. We talk about this before about if we hire additional bus drivers. and
with benefits that we still benefit that was still say this money off of using outside sources for school activities. So that that 55,000 there number not, you go away
as well. So, there's things like that, we're still looking at something services that we're talking about the other two lines that would possibly change are the health benefits
of salaries. If if Final budget numbers requires reduction in staff. That's that money. Those numbers will drop as well. So, here we are now from last
time we spoke. We were 3.44. We're now 2.85 million. Away from, that's our gap. Is currently 2.5 million. My guide and chipping away at a
lot of little things. I'm going to show later on that, we've met with everyone. Everyone who owns a budget line, a budget in our district, Mike Gino and I have
met with over the last except for John Miller Over the last week, we probably have 40 things unless a 40 things, the total seven figures easily that we are
happening out. Prioritize maybe the finance Committee next Tuesday morning, Talk about what that what they look like, what kind of impact they would
have? None of those things are not list or something. I would want to do. But refuse. So it's a matter now saying what's which pain point is at
least pain point but if we were close our gap entirely it would cost 2.8 million dollars. But it says that we can't, that's above our legal. Are mass is
still 6.45. You could not do that, we want to even if we want to either the board of Max, we still have to cut one. You stop the cup flying cut, somewhere or
revenue. Um, options that we met with everyone this week. They spoke about that we're seeing input from community and staff. So
we're getting emails. One of the things we talked about is exploring transportation costs. We were outsource that. We also got the board, got receiving him, a person. Say We also have that budget email.
Let's give you some stuff. So we're talking to everyone, we're listening to put. People are saying the more feedback we get the batteries. We are just moving forward Tuesday, The finest committee meets and
Thursday. All the leadership team, the principles meet more. Prioritize next Thursday night. I can probably speak to more about what actual cups may be in
place or because being considered and prioritize the session. Um, this is a slide that was asked for before. And people seem to like it not like it,
appreciate it. Yes, exactly. So long. We're all I appreciate the fact that you were putting this out there that this is what this made look like. Um, these are the adjusted
numbers based on our lower budget. Number right now, three percent this, this would be the appropriate how much we have producer, appropriations at
three five, six four, five percent, From where we are correctly from right now. I'm
sorry 6.45 is statutory. Ely. The highest we go. That's using our. That's either. I just now here's here's the other tricky
part that I'm glad we have mic for rather than Chuck. If, if part of that, If we say five percent pick, you know, and $700,000 part is reducing a staff member.
are taxing ability to increases as well, because the healthcare because this this number back here, the healthcare Upon the
actual correct. They Said the 1.6 million dollars. that based on our current healthcare payments. If we reduce staff at 1.6 will reduce to our tax ability will lessen.
Okay, so there's about there's a domino effect that way we have all. It's almost dollars about
It's basically dollar Bill. So that's that's an important point. So much. I just
Distracts. I tried it. I I try to be cleverly maybe this new workout. I love to say where you spend our money. that's what I want to say, what we're
actually spending online, and we looked last week and a couple weeks ago at cost per pupil, which is our operating budget divided by number kids. Boom.
I'm I said, I want to try to understand when we decide where we might find our Where do we go? and we are, there are but I broke our budget in five or
budget to five buckets direct instruction, extracurricular operations facilities, and debt service debt service. I'm not going to talk about Microsoft a
little bit, it's not something we vote on, it's not something you decide on and voted on already. It's in place. It is what it is. It is not something. We as a board vote on it
is something that you know and I did want to add though. I just wanted. with some of the emails coming in, I just wanted to
clarify that the budget crunch, we're finding ourself in now, is really a result of a lot of the changes in the fiscal environment over this past year,
they weren't really things that we predicted for. Could you predicted that even at the outset of planning the bond referendum? Um, not that. I think it would have changed things but I don't want it to.
I don't what I don't want people to do is think that oh, what we do this was coming, I was we didn't today anything. Yeah it's we're surprises Everyone else
you Five, if the argument discussion right now where that's, that's what it. So that's that's the key factor there. Um, so the blue, the likely
blowers behind each one of those show the percentages. So in direct and direct instructions, like what I said, what not? That's not about what it costs
for student. What do we cost actually in classrooms? What do we pay for direct instruction? It's 77% of our budget which is a great thing by the way, our
money's going to our classrooms, right? This this is teachers, education, assistance, you administrators supervisors, this is not If administrator systems
and buildings, this is not nurses. This is they're an operation. So we're pulling those things out. So that first
bar Represents what we pay. For classroom function, right? And Your first, I look at I said, 77%, that should be low
because set our health benefits in time and and salaries are 74. There's 30 or 40 people not included in that because it is nurses. And it says It's Mike. Steve, it's
Tim's team. It's John's team. There's a whole bunch of people there that are pulled out. That's why, that's 77%. extracurricular code of athletic
budget, coaches, stipends transportation field, maintenance hours, and athletic director Asian assistant. That's about 3%, replica. Um,
Operations was a business Office Staff Administration. Nurses, Special ed transportation, those pieces that's about 80% of our budget. and then
facilities, which is, which would imagine buildings ground state utilities is about 12. so, I looked at that and I said,
What happens over time with that, but this these numbers 773 that's about. that's a five-year average. What's causing our body, Sometimes? It fluctuates a little bit. And I
came up with this look, I thought this would be interesting. The red is our tax rate over the last three years and then a three year, four years and a four year average.
The first dark blue is directly structure. Our tax rates been going up. Basically, two point eight percent average. Over the
last four years. Our direct destruction, average is over. So the increase in what we pay to educate care is going up over 4% over time when our tax rate
increases going up, 2.8%, roughly, this is increasingly from year to year. So, from from 23 24. For 21.23 increased. Yeah, direct instruction was over four
percent. That's a um, you can see right there the picture. This tell up the reason I look at this picture is As we met
and I'm lucky the average more than anything else. The direct destruction is the area where I mean, did you Aqua Extracurriculars is a second
highest. It's three percent of the budget. I mean it's it's almost nothing, right? You're not affecting too much. When you look at that I'm
kind of deck some maintenance and those other things you can see that you see the one you extra for the facilities. We left, we had a
person. Go that was the last budget price, the other big jump in athletics was when extra curriculars was the new contract, when the coaching salaries and all the statements went up. That was a big jump of that, but this is kind of what
I want to share with you tonight is as we talk about where how we move forward, what we want to do, That this is our If we go
back all the way back to the mission statement, I'd say that earlier. If we're gonna do academic actions from all these things, we have to be wares. wares. We start making these
decisions. When? The decision is going to be bringing the 2.8 a little higher or bring the four point whatever little lower. you're bringing
instruction costs down try to corners those in or you're gonna raise taxes a little more, and that's decision that I'm gonna ask in my work members to God, Give me guys, go do, I'll go and
come back with ideas and how to do it but I think this kind of sums up Where we are in our decision-making process. Any questions about that? Or
And now I don't know what this means. a little bit. So you talk about that. That sort of a little bit already. Reiterating. Or administration.
No one has control over that says that service we're paying off our debt from previous reference, you're paying off to reformer, we just passion 24 And the one who's passed back in 2016, um, spoil another, there's good. This is
all good news. I'm about to tell you, I'll tell you exactly the good news is two slots. So, There's three external factors that will affect how we tax the
taxpayers. And what the burden may be from one year to the next. so, our borrowing room, we made out very well during the bonds. Got back in April last year, we projected a 4.2 interest rate
came increase 3.9 great, fantastic over 20 years that's a lot also are in the our investments, the interest, on our deposits for the referent Chuck said Last month. Now, there's almost a half a million
dollars that statutory has to be taxed relief for that those dead babies. So that's gonna go into the next year's budget. It's great news. We've also on an
annual basis, I'll talk about the assessed valuations. From 2025 to 2026 sets, valuations of the town going up over, 20 million dollars again like the year before that's over
40 million dollars over two years Test values, evaluations are going up just like that helps our general fund tax tax impact. So helps
disconnect. so, Those are the three factors that affect all this, all repaying our debt and the Um, so next fiscal year, we'll actually be the most we will ever as of the history of heck,
of the most reliers spend in principal and interest payments. almost 6.2 million dollars um over the following 20 years that's steadily. Decreases.
Actually the biggest decrease over the next 20 years is when the 2016 on retire as about fiscal year, 37. It was two million dollars, it goes down. So that's way
bigger than the decrease in debt, we would have paid if we did not pass over, it was only 800,000. So a lot of money, but a lot more in the fiscal year
just said, by the way, sidestepping a little bit so, this is actually 10 years, This will mark 10 years that we issued 2016 referendum. It's about the time
you look to refinance those pawns depending on the borrower so, Another side note, I may be coming to you guys, maybe like next 18 months Saint. Hey, we
have refunding opportunity, there's a whole another process but that is simply saving taxpayer money. You can do nothing. There's still kind of doing our jobs, but it's also
our jobs today. If we see opportunities like that to advantage. So might be doing
that soon. So to get to what the good news is Daniel. So if you remember also gonna quiz you guys and as you, what was the,
what was the, what was the text 534, No, I wasn't that high. So it was, it was 369. That's a
reference right for the yeah. So Right. With what I know. And I and I I build a pretty conservative
estimate thing to What we will get lecture because More more debt service. More stating, We're gonna have more. We should have more stadium. I even used same
stadium. That's different state dating operated. Yeah that servicing that's totally different type of it. So that's two different buckets. That service. He
probably really the top of what. And financial impact on average system. From the 25 for
estimates is 300. Wow, that is good. And then the next things we have a finance meeting next Tuesday.
because of team media. Next next Thursday, The governor speaking on. 310. Which means state is
now some three twelve. Our budget adoption is scheduled for three? Twelve. So we have a note there, I will likely be
asking us to put a meeting in on 317. Because the budget is due, we have the budget much has to submit the budget by three
nineteen. so, I do want to I I would like to even schedule tentative meeting. On the 17th and then if from 312, if the
news is really good and we don't need it, we can just do submit the approve, the budget that night. What? I would like to
have an alternate date because if we do have to stop and have another discussion about x, y or Z, I don't want to, I don't
want to force forces. We've done that before. We just ran through and forced it. And in the end we look back. I said I might have thought that differently if I would like 24
hours to think about it. Um, so I mean I put 360 it could be three 15, right? I put three something to be 315. It could be that Monday night or Tuesday night? I'd let you have Mike at
least 48 hours before once we the final thing for him to get all those ducks through the road and submit, so, maybe I'll put an email at the
board just say Well better. That's right. No. Do should we advertise that we will have adjusting just because we need. Right? So, I'll probably not the board again. Oh, make sure we get people here, 17 And then we'll put
we'll advertise it Monday. And that we need to cancel. There you go. So any questions or discussion? This is one of you guys that shout it up. The big discussion point that I've been seeing come
up. There are a few things that I keep hearing from the community. One is I think what you Jamie and Linda mentioned earlier, is this Conf Usion perspect to funds.
whether it's the turf fields or the referendum funds, we just approved this referendum. Why do they need more money? Because they're different buckets. We talked about this before. When we talked about
the refer, Endum, the way New Jersey funds at schools that you want to make. Physical improvements. You need to do that for a referendum. That's
why we had the referendum. Operational budgets a different story. I also. put out to you guys, maybe I could preview it
finance committee, but if it's helpful, We think to the community to go over, like because I've spent so much time in the weeds on the school
funding formula history, I'm happy to put together a short 5-10 minute here are some slides on how we got to, where we are, because I think I'm hearing a lot of distrust that sort of leading into my
second theme is Well, don't we have too many administrators or Don't? We spend too much money and I think one of the really important slides of the Central
ETA meeting was No, we don't have too many administrators, we're really lean. No, we don't spend too much money. We're delivering an outstanding
education at a very, very affordable class relative appears because we have to, but by far and I think that Just again, continuing to re-establish trust and just make
sure that we're all working at the same information in the same set of facts. Absolutely. And then the third piece of feedback that I've been seeing a lot of, I'm sure you
guys have too, is the importance of athletics? No one wants to get rid of freshman athletics. No one wants to get rid of middle. School, athletics, I
mean as Chuck said to any introduce all this none of us want to get rid of any. But I think that is another point at least in my experience that I'm hearing sort of loudly
from corners. so I mean I agree and you know, if we all spend a lot of time and we're we are in the means we understand and I get that the
public, or they only have little pieces of it and if you only have a little piece like you don't get it. And so in trying to to have everyone understand, I think people have
to think about their own household, right? So, if you take out, Home equity loan because you're going to put an
addition on your house and you're going to take care of your roof and and put your windows in your house because you're maintaining it and that's
just what you're going to do. That's that's one thing. Your operational budget of how much your electric is and if you need to to look at your budget and say, Do I really need five streaming services?
It would be fiscally irresponsible to say. No, I'm going to keep all of my streaming services because I've got all this money sitting in my home equity
line over here. So let me pay for my streaming services, we're not allowed to legally. You just in trying to have people understand like have it. You know, we'll get their
own finances in their own budgets and try and understand. You can't just go pay for your saving services out of your home equity. Yeah. And we're not
allowed. So Trying to help. Yeah. Oh greater a great point. And you know, also, I was chatting, this has been a hot topic in my household
too and my husband who's very clever Guy was saying something like, You know, inflate like school district. You guys aren't exempt for from like inflation and things costing
more. And I was like, I can't believe, you know the our teachers power our schools we will do everything in our power to avoid ever like impacting. Staff, salaries and benefits the
benefit increase of almost two million dollars here. That's like in one day, that's staggering. And the thought, that, that could continue, right? And so
just the, I guess, the obvious point that everyone is struggling and watching, everything cost more and we are not immune to that and really, with the same dynamic and, you know, just to be cognizant of
that. I also think Nobody wants taxes to increase, right? Word. I think has been incredibly disciplined in terms of planning. We know as Chuck
has done his presentation, he could probably do it in his sleep right now. He probably does. Actually, that's why I'm sorry, but the slide I'm thinking of Chuck in my memory. It's it's
the comparison of tax increases by, you know, other districts in South Jersey and the one that always pops up in I think was
like 26 plus percent increase for callings. Would our neighbor three miles down the road 26% year over year? And we have worked incredibly hard to keep a very tight brain on tax
increases. We all know this is a super expensive place to live and it's it you know, part of that expense and I can guarantee the reason the vast majority of us are here is for
our schools. And so there has to be some balance and I'm not advocating. For let's jack up everybody's taxes. I don't want to pay for more taxes either
but when you chuck your chart, where you talked about the 4% increase year over year to educate our students, which is what we do. That's why we're here and
that we that traditionally the the tax rate increase is 2.8% like I'm gonna say maybe the unpopular. Maybe we just need to start with getting to parody
with the four percent that doesn't solve everything. That's part of the bucket, but You know, maybe that's got to be on
the table. Yeah, I think. I, I think that that's a, it's a really good point. And I think like, thinking about all that there is just there's no simple way to answer
this. and and we are all dealing with it in our own homes, which is why I think we're all feeling. So
Cognizant about tax increases because we all realize as much as we're dealing with it at school, then people are doing there in their own homes.
And I think we even have about 10 minutes left before we close out the open. Public are open discussion. Thank you. Let's
like, where are there? Some suggestions, or, or thoughts that you're thinking of ways. Like we all I think wanted really try to do the cost saving
measures that are going to impact students, right? I do caution. I know a lot of some people are saying that. That.
The, the were admin heavy. Or number, not, and Reparison. And one of the things I think people might not be as, as aware of is the amount of statutory regulations, there are
schools and each of our administrators are in charge of a hefty load of those in, in addition to that, that being
there for students. and so that balance is really important that we keep them still accessible to our students in a personal way, which is what makes us who we
are. Ideally, I think, I mean I I really don't have any ideas. I'm just saying, I mean, we talked about possibly looking at Would it be cost savings to
outsource all transportation? I know we've been looking at some of the regulations or some of the costs of consulate services. Right?
Things like that. How about for having this out there like at home, like students who Our home and we're paying a curriculum rate for teachers to
turn who down instruction is there But no, I think would really actually educational experience for the students that we I mean we can look many
are short terms so I really it's pretty no no. The biggest challenge is so obviously stated Ministry of Code guides when and for how long we're trying to provide
home down services, either through students special needs through an IEP or students whose experiencing a short term or
long term medical disability. Um, it's less expensive. It The minimum is 10 hours. That is the minimum. You have to provide per
week of instruction. it boils down to two hours per week of core instruction for core subject. so, It's less expensive. When our own teachers do it. It is
challenged with that. Is that requires that instruction to happen after school hours. So a lot of times it's not ideal for a student particularly when
they're going through a medical issue to have a you know, however many hours of home instruction services happen between four and six so then
the alternative is for those instruction that instruction to deliver during what is a traditional school day. And that's when we have to outsource
and the cost does go up. when those are provided, We will be beneficial as we're very best. and again, a huge kudos to the
public education that we're doing, all this and being so transferred. I'll be beneficial to also educate the public on this town about what the revenue generation opportunities
really are because they're not, they're not that fast right. That also beneficial to let people know. Hey, listen. Here's how we're sort of able to increase revenues again. It's not like I could I can
bring back next Thursday because we caught when we met with all So it wasn't just cause there were suggestions for revenue. All right, we hear a lot about cuts, that's what people hearing
cut. right, the challenges, somebody hgt and you look at how much days contributed to the budget. That's people voluntarily giving generously to each help. The scary point is if you say Hey
this sounds good. Great cost you a great revenue get option, right? We build our budget and we're planning on this $50,000.
And it doesn't work. Now right then we have to cover, right? I actually I I will be presenting on Tuesday. I came up with a new structure for activity fees, it
kind of looks to separates out. It's like, Clubs, athletics clubs, and athletics. You take three. Whoever you do. These are different because the transportation athletics is a
different number that you just. If you're interact, that's one fee. If you're on a sport, that's another fee. If you're sports and clubs, that's a third.
um, and then and just look at that and I the number on jungle right now it looks to be $50,000. Increase activities,
right? That's that's a pretty good number. So we're looking at things like that for revenue generation. But Mike's question is, Can you guarantee me that 50,000? Which is the right question, He's
asked that question. Is some of them. I look I said I think I'd be going to say yes most things like Maybe 10% of that and then now you're talking about, you know,
to be your play. cautiously the first year. You know, then it doesn't have to impact your help, you have. Although, or I would take 10% of anything right now. um, but
part of what I'll do and on Tuesday for the Facilities Committee and next Thursday, you guys will see a version of it. we're either General is
list of revenue opportunities and you know, saving opportunities and whatever ties. And then and then I even have my own personal notes on why I
think this was better than that one. And just because your Chuck's note, doesn't mean you're right. It's just that
there's factors with each one. I think that's terrific. That, I mean, that is like truly thinking out outside of the box, right? We have to. So the magic solution is not one
solution. It's going to be a little love everything. It might be a little bit more. It's a might be less We can take you.
I just don't make it into high number, but I think the pain point will be less if we can really look at all the different areas. I know that like with me
when I'm trying to save in my budget at home, I don't take it. I don't say like, okay, we're not gonna have any Cable or streaming stations. I say. All
right well we'll have a little less streaming stations and you're not getting a new phone this year. You're gonna have to use your old one or like something.
you know? Like, with that way, you can spread it out a little bit. I wish this is we're talking about that But she took over Central I want to say there were 340 kids and 15, kids and 4, that's 460 students was a
30 more, she's gotten one and a half teachers so she's our classrooms. You look at this list and how crowded our elementary I mean that showings
are Bananas. But, I mean, so we've helped titles what staff was saying to the one slide from last last time, was the difference of how much we spend per pupil compared to other districts. We really spend substantially. But like that, we
just have airplanesboro, right? Like, we've been tight already. been even more challenging, we don't have a lot of back to Cut well. And then, especially I'm
gradual that up because I do remember that was something in the middle school. PTA meeting and I don't know how available, right? Like if we could ever
find that out but there was some questions on just how that looked at face value, right? Of what they're like. It was almost like, What are they getting? What are they getting
that? We're not getting But it was also helpful to even hear today that like almost half of those other Jay groups are actually, elementary districts, right? So
they're So I think an even understanding like, how we are administratively lean. Now we really haven't added that many more staff like but then what
are our students getting and what's available to them? There are inherent districts and her differences when you look at your jade dishes and burden versus here.
And also living certainly won't. Yeah, he's gonna cost more educated child in Bergen County New Year because you can't expect to teach your commute from Cherry Hill at
Bergen County. They've got to have a salary. Yeah. there's reasons for that right, but that's why I think even the Jade is your slides and we're allowing Slide. Camden County
Brewery County, Slide. That's, that's a more level playing field. We're still low on that. to the tune of, If we go to $20,000 to see average if you
let me know, but there's no budget and next that's the difference there. All right, so we're we're about time for the committee to hold. So do you need anything else for us? No, I'm
just on Tuesday. I will work with Mike. Probably It's gonna be snowing Sundays. I thought we can we all know that right
now. With. all number of options, we have And we'll look at that chart, that shows. We can dig in a certain areas,
but digging into a 3% of your budget, doesn't you taking a percent off of extracurricular as a percent off of direct instruction or two
different. Two different numbers close, But we'll also talk about some of the And now what they feedback from that, that group and meeting the
principles next Thursday feedback from that group and and next next Thursday night, I'll come up with some General overview of where I
think we stand at that point. Maybe, I guess I make a recommendation for tax rate increase for me. All right, I'll make a call make recommendation
and you guys can give me a thumbs up or thumbs down and All just there and then by March 12th. 2018. Okay, For. Those who are emailing in,
we appreciate it. All right, we'll now begin open public comment session members and community are invited to speak throughout the three minutes at this time. If you'd like to
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are expected to maintain a town of courtesy and civility. We like to come. Below on Carol Stoner, on Avondale Avenue. Boy. Um, I'd
like to first address my concerns about the lack of parking for the students and Hadfield Memorial High School affected today. will the town be able to open up
the Hopkins lot across the street or where Exactly. Are you putting 200 to 300 parts? I'm not exactly sure why I heard you that you have $10,000 to fix it, but then you're bringing in
equipment. There's just no place to park so you you said that there's a problem but you didn't get solution. And I think that that's your job.
I'm also concerned about starting turf field construction Why. Now why can't this please Wait until the summer when school is in session. I know Linda you made a comment that you want the fields to be open.
Well, why you do you don't even have a parking lot for people? And now you're starting a church field. Put it on hold. So you can actually have a place for
people to park. With regards to the budget deficit, I'm going to say something incredibly unpopular. At what point are
you going to stop giving healthcare to staff who no longer work here? Health care is going through the roof and yet we're still doing the same
thing When is it going to change? How much are we paying for current employees? Versus those who are currently retired. I don't know the answer to that.
I know that we pay healthcare, I think. We pay healthcare for teachers who have retired, we didn't break that apart. You said that it was rising. I'm not
sure who exactly on that party. That's only for our employees, that's for currently closely states that has in charge of factors for, that's only for
that. That's what you know, that's correct. Okay. I also think that it's physically irresponsible to make a new gym to be fair, You were aware that last year. and this
year's budget was going to be incredibly difficult. You knew that we, I sat in this room and, you know, it was gonna be difficult. But yet, you still push forward to 50 million
dollar bonds. How about we not use that money to build the gym and reduce our debt? And then we understand that the pot for the bond can't be used for
operational. expenses. I get that people get that but maybe we just shouldn't do the gym and then we can reduce the amount of money. I don't know if you can do that because it is people.
Who they have to build it. But now, we're stuck having problems within sports. Okay, um I also want to talk about how to get Athletics Henfield, school district celebrates. The fact that hadn't
field is one of the top schools for their athletics. The middle school is what prime's the pump for this success of Haddonfields athletics, for the
most part. Please don't get rid of middle school and freshman sports. If you remember a few years back, the orchestra and band. Peter program to the high
school was decimated at the middle school because we got rid of the Bulldog block. so it is destroyed the high school chorus work strength band because the
feeder program was cut, we're going to need to have the same problem at that impact You keep though because I don't well, does anyone else want to make a comment, right? Okay, just lesson. I'm
also concerned about imputed coaches, salaries to teens this year. Both the boys and the girls track teams had to pay two, coaches It is
unsustainable. you're doing that in addition to raising activity. Fees in addition to raising taxes, in addition to having to take APS, or you lose your GPA, a majority of people don't pay their dues when you ask to
collect them. And now that money should be going to team dinners, it should be going to senior gifts and it should go into things that for the
students with the pay coaches salaries. Like You do, talk about that but we didn't pay two coaches salaries and you know what? We don't have the money so
that I have to go out and fun race for it. So, it's really getting complicated for everybody. Um, and no, not
everyone in hand field. Thank you. Okay. Alright review the agenda to work in session so we'll just
answer questions governance. I have a question. I don't want to. Upsetting, but one of the feedback points that I have
gotten completely about baptism is not just superintendent and board member, but other like
relatives of do we have a policy that addresses that I know we talked about this or and I would, if people are bringing you questions, you should be
telling them to go to the Gmail who handles policy, right? Like just so that they are used to following the chain to command so they should actually be asking Gina because whatever
they're concern is, might be a specific concern that really should be addressed privately with Gina rather than being with her down the lane. And that's
just so, there's definitions of what constitutes are relative and equal policy, right? And I saw that I just replies to me and none of you and that's I just that's and in addition to the complaints of our
administrators or two. We have too many. That's another point of feedback that I have heard, thanks. But I will redirect
those. yeah, and that I feel like the budget stuff that more because we're we're getting that general feedback. But this just because it has to do with
but I do think that like that's just what happened like oh because I'm sure someone's gonna say Well, why doesn't that policy address that? Because that's not what that policies
designed to address. Right? Right. Yes. Yeah. I just wanted to clarify what I meant like. chicken and I did not mean for the one where you said about
Administrator having like that kind of feedback getting Right. Okay, any other questions on that? Curriculum and Special
ed. Personnel. I did see don't leave a lot of six period class and that's a cost savings, Correct, for not having to hire extra staff, if possible, most
of these are actions, you advice. So we are trying to reduce our number security advisors But by contract we
can't use this experience class. Okay, right? Right. These are these are But that we didn't have to hire a long-term stuff.
You couldn't find a long term. Sorry. Usually these are more extenuated circumstances. All right, this is in finance. I just want to call out the Agt again, what? I think that that
is extraordinary. and in terms of all of the budget printers that we're having, I should up my own giving, and It's really
amazing what they're able to do. Yeah, they really and they give Huge. I know we don't participate in the Special Ed Medicaid initiative and I know reasons
why, because it really wasn't cost effective for us. Is that something that we should? Evaluate, or we certain that
we're still not going to make that? so, But we've never participated. He he revenue projections. Last
year. So this time last year, Districts have typically get a decent amount of money for eligible individuals. Was slashed. We would only make somewhere
thousand dollars, so yeah. Now I have what I I've never I've never understood by the time. What? I understand it is a huge administrative as a child,
safety, special education. Together. Oh there's a lot has to be done. Yeah, it has to be done. I mean the state pushes
it because that there's more money for this state in the center. Problem. That's why they push it. If you don't meet that revenue projection, can
actually automatically get around. But it is. Simply put it is, it's not. yeah, I just
figured yeah, and I just want also reiterate but thank you to the Agt her that substantial
contributions. Minutes. Items for future consideration. The board. You have any other. We have any other conversations with town
about the pilots, when you do, we're meeting tomorrow my time here. Meeting some meeting for
the meeting. All right, maybe odds be in your favor. No, hopefully that would be okay. Um, is everyone moved in from the place I haven't heard,
but we haven't yet. We've got an excuse me. We have now we have not All right. So um Anyway,
motion picture. Sorry, I just forgot it.