>> Chuck Klaus: Thank you in the morning, we had more Easter Nick on and they just won't play about. >> HSD Broadcast: Right. All
right, I'd like to call the meeting for order. Mike, could you please call rope Mr? Beneke
Miss Dress here. Mr. Ashenfler. Here, this Hollywood here. If your knuckles, Yes, here, Mr. Richard here, Miss Sonic, here was President Koker here Alright, The United States of
America and She Republicans One Nation under God, indivisible. My can you please read the statement? Concerning local
public meetings? oh, those Are this exact? Has been by the Super on January 9th, 2026 numbers of this meeting was posted on the interior of the school administration offices.
95 Grove Street Haddonfield written notice was submitted and follow the Haddonfield Borrow Clark and this is working out post the retrospectors.
Thank you. All right, we will start with our biannual HIV presentation with Mr. Fox. All right, good evening and evening. All right. Hello, my name is
Rob. Fox on the anti-point coordinator. I'm here to do our biannual harassment Foundation. Point presentation takes place. a lot of these slides are seeing five years so
our presentation presentation. So what kind of breeze through the first couple ones. But if you have any questions, so we are required to do two
reporting period. Our two reports presentations, the first is September 1st September 31st, that's carried one. That's the daddy will be seeing tonight and then we have a
second one that goes January, 1st, June 30th and you'll see that presented Angelity. This is our district anti-going specialist for each school. This
is our third year working with the team. So there's definitely been some consistency in these positions, which I think it's definitely very helpful to us
being consistent across the board when it comes to HIV investigations. this is our policy 5512 based off the anti-going goal rights and just basically what HIV is
the definition in the statement. All right, so this is the data. I want to focus primarily on the total number sound the bottom, but you can see the school
breakdown for total reported for the first half period one. We had eight total reported of those. Eight four did not move to investigation, so they were
determined to principal pulmonary termination forward. And then the following of the for the move forward zero, we're confirmed and four were found You can see the breakdown here
for what? Each one was. One was for race. One was for sexual orientation, one was for gender identity, and one was for disability. And then you can
see our comparison here last year. Period. One to this year period one. So for 24, 25 last year, we had 15 total reported to where HIV the two were found to be HIV, six or
non HIV. Seven were moved the principal This year. We had eight for four. And you probably tell us what principal preliminary
determination is. Yeah. So what happens is is a 338 form is filled out that I've talked about at the past one, that's the state required. Document
that has to be filled out that documents and what that by the principle by myself, but Antibointing specialists and you know, through that a lot
most times we deter, it's found that it's actually just a student conflict between two students. So there's no need to move it to a full investigation because there's a conflict on
both sides and then it's handled through code of So that's that's you. However yeah. And so there are disciplinary procedures. Just so people
listening. So here, so even if it doesn't advance to HIV, there are disciplinary measures, follow sort of conduct and even if it doesn't advance to HIV
and it's not bound to be HIV, it's not HIV, doesn't mean it just kind of goes away. It just moves over to be dealt with
through code of conduct. And Rob would win a preliminary. Determination is made. But what's isn't there a sign off that has to happening with that? The second
superintendent? Oh yeah. Everything goes through. It gets reports certain and then a letter is whatever the reporting party is the letter of sense. Then what I mean, if there's if
the color changes that an investigation is not going to move forward, yes, that has to be That I
Investment. Which? Yeah. And then whatever the reporting party is, we'd send a letter to them too and we let them know why, it's not moving forward. Um, you know, we don't go into
details of what code of conduct what we do say. thank you. Yeah. All right. So how is each HSD addressing HIV? We continue to attend the shop. Sesame,
Associates. which is who handles all our board policies. I took down elementary and have only specialists who won at the end of September this year. That's a training that takes place where it's kind of a refresher,
all the ANTI-BOYING goal rights. They talk about that but then they also go in the case law and they talk about things you know, the ALJ and the commissioner I've seen over the
past year and that kind of it's just a good way for us to have a deeper understanding of it and what they're looking for on their and what's down, continue
to work with the high School, Graphic, Arts Department, to develop wires, we'll see them around schools. We hosted a
virtual information session with NJ, PSA, legal one. This was done with five other school districts had in for Allen, Pharaoh lost her township and
for these. So by doing that it cuts the cost down, I think it cost to see, sure it was about 125 hours here. 125. Host,
this parent night back in November and then in school assemblies for the Camden County Prosecutor's office, elementary schools, just wrapped up their assemblies between
December and Tatum decided to receive a day. The middle school has just coming up the beginning of February. And in that, they talk about cyber
safety, but they also talked about cyber bullying and going to have the keep yourself safe from cyber bullying. But they also talk about please the things can be interpreted is
going through cyber, so if you touch on that, the FAQ that sent out with the first letter of notification to the parents when HIV investigation, starts
running the whole process and then continue to work with administration to address acts of HIV. The middle school, especially I know we've talked about a lot
they've done a great job at hosting community meetings and expectation meetings. So a lot of the data that you see I think is a reflection of that works.
Right violence and vandalism report. There are seven areas that component of this, this is a suspensions in school and out of school, HIV vandalism effect
violence, threat substance offenses and other incidences leading to removal. For the elementary school, we had one at Haddon. It was a half face suspension That was a
simple threat. Where the middle school? We had a two-day out of school suspension. That was labeled as other incident leading to removal.
For the high school. We had a total of seven in school, suspension instances, totaling 17 days and out of school, suspensions. We had six incidences totaling 17 days and
then you can see the percentage break down there for other incidences. HIV violence and substance offenses. And then district-wide in
school, suspensions, we had eight instances totaling 17 and a half days out of school. We had seven instances. Totally 19. Totally it's the comparison last year of
this year in school, suspensions actually had three this year. We had 17 and a half out of school, we had 17 and then we had 19 this year, the Institute
suspensions for this drive. You just want to say, we had two specific substance offenses at the high school that carry like a ten day suspension. So
instead of the district instead of the high school doing 10 days out of school, they did five in school, five out of school for one, and they did seven and
three for another. So there is, that's why there's a uptick there for that. Those two keys. So we say 17, 17, cumulative days, that 17 separate incidents.
Yes, How many incidents did you say? Or for the out of the seven, was it the 17 days was that just the high school? The 17 days in
school, suspensions was for the high school and then six instances for 17 days out. So yeah, so they were both 17. and then I know my last word presentation, the Board of
Requested to see some historical data on other. code of conduct and what it's been done. So you can see it's the five-year historical for detentions want to recess attention Saturday detention
warnings and suspensions dating back to 2122. One thing that struck me, when I ran this, you look here specifically for the 22 23 school year, you see that there was 93 warnings? That was also
the year that Mr. Tron and Mr. Roman, I was her first year. so I think that's just a reflection that they were really working to, to try and get a handle on what was going on in the middle school and stuff, that doesn't mean the things
aren't necessarily documented that things weren't happening. Maybe weren't put. In just, but once they started things, were accurately being put in there.
So you can see that there was a increase there and then a slowly went down. But if you also suspensions, they went down. I talked about some of the alternative things that they've done, you can see that there was an increase in once
and recessed attention and increase in Saturday attention. In will of doing suspensions. Yeah. And earlier early in the 2000s or the twenties I should
say, we were well, cool, right? Part of it too, right? So that definitely plays into that as well. and then here's the high
school one, you can see um this one it's probably a little harder to break down just because you know, when it comes to launch recessed attention
Saturday. Detentions that also in that what's reflected in that is latiness, is the school is cutting class, those type of things. The one thing you will
see is they've started to use the loss of open campus, they have further first, reporting periodication at 22 times where
they hold open campus and make sure they have sex. You can see that we're using other methods
besides just suspensions to try and Great graphs. Thank you. question. Like yeah. Looking at like the graphs and seeing how the implementing of some of
these new things. Are the have you gotten any feedback overall of like the climate of the school? Like, you know, are things changing at all? Or they
know it's been doing climate stuff. I'm if you want to talk. Yeah, yeah. Well, we See a lot of very positive trends in last year's climate survey over the last month. I
presented that it might not two months ago these two months ago, so I I don't recall to stop my head, some of the all of the metrics obviously, but the one That we really focused on was
that metric on belonging and I don't want to miss quote with it, it was the highest it's ever been. across the students. You took the surveying rates three
through 12, I say he was like 85% responding that question. But Might not, I might not be exactly. Okay. I do. Recall was
the highest number that we've had. And from that, that day though, one of the biggest concerns, although it wasn't a red flag, concern of those yellow concerns that we
saw across constituents parents, students and teachers or interpersonal behaviors well. Yeah, see, so the detentions and things like that.
I think I I think there's a correlation. Yeah. Like I mean, I know we can't make exact comparisons, but like kind of seeing some of these things like is there, you know? I'm just
curious as we continue to move on and with some of these other ways of trying to Um, create a difference in behavior. Are these some
deterrence, right? Like in our, we kind of actually matching the The consequences to the types of behaviors. A lot of the you changed in these consequences are student driven
and student said, No this you look like this, you know, x y and Z. So, like the open campus was directly the student suggestion. Like, This is really, this is something that really matters to us, and if
you want to make an impact, so we've done that. We've also try to make things a lot of these two, a lot of them, so,
especially Will come with. The discussion about what, why? This is not the right decision making so it's not just, here's your detention. Yeah. Yeah. There's a
lot of times better with the students talking about this is your consequence. You need to understand why we have the consequence of having a better decisions as a future. So it's
not just a handy ally, you know, and it seems like we're on the right track. And I see in like another year. So how special the implementing these changes that are student
driven? And you know how that looks? Yeah. That one, and the Chuck's point we try and make everything a teachable moment and I do document that no. So
when you look at the violence event, yeah, you'll see meeting with Districts Act meeting with principal meeting with counselor, right to have those
conversations. Okay, thank you. Okay, committee reports. We got our first, our new chairs. Yes, all right. So just gonna give a little bit of an overview.
The first thing that we had we met yesterday, and we actually had a follow-up presentation from Dr. Blair, because we had wanted to look at just some like, 10 year data on out of district
placements and kind of what was some of the nature of like differences between them. So not even just the cost but what are
the differences between them? And so we we had an initial presentation of that and this was a follow-up answering some more of our questions. And so we're looking at when students
are going out of district. But also what are the different reasons. But then also looking at, what are some things that we've done in house the whole programs and how we match up with some of the
other, you know, averages with the state and also just looking at what are ways that we can perhaps even More additional programming in
the future to keep students in district. Then we also for there there, which is about Group of Native Americans, and
it's more contemporary novel. I think it would be for college prep, English 12. And so, there was some really great discussion around trying to just bring in some more contemporary
literature, but also things that just paint A. picture of different types of environments and contemporary voice voices in there. There's also A
new fifth grade field, trip request to the Philadelphia Museum of Art, where it sounds like a really interesting interdisciplinary. tour for on history civics and culture through the lens of art throughout US history. And so this would be for fifth
graders and then we also learned about a really interesting. Lizzie and Central. Sorry. Okay. Central and Where it was very interesting in that, it's a
short program and it's a way for them to practice kind of flash drafting and short writing, where they log into this program and they follow prompts. And then it's all. I'm
not like it's all anonymous. But the program is able to kind of judge the writing based on what are the components of what the teacher is looking for. And it gamifies
it, so it puts it on the board and Dr. Gorilla shared some of your experience of being in the classroom and that there was a lot of excitement from the students on that. And it's a
very minimal cost so it's kind of, it's not replacing anything. It's just something to add on to just see how it see how it works. That's like it.
It's a 60 dollar per teacher. And right now, all we're doing is we're allowing the fifth grade teacher. since you're Rogers, who discovered this
program, she's been using With love enthusias, her students that literally cheer every time so they do it. they're actively writing.
We're just exploring it more. It's not it's not being embedded in our curriculum, we're not requiring teachers to do it yet. We're just allowing this Rogers and the team at Central
to explore this a little more through the paid version, which gives them a little more formative data based on student writing and we'll make a
decision by the end of the year whether or not this is something we'll make available to other teachers or it's kind of nice but not essential. Yeah. And I
just wanted to add to that. I mean I think I feel like we had a really great discussion on even just bringing up the need
to balance between, I know we've talked a lot about screen time with students and how there is a definitely showing more of
a trend to like pencil and paper writing in classrooms but that's also, you know, that awareness, but even hearing the
reports of the way that students were just so into it. For it. So I'm not okay. I think the transition dependent papers really important giving the
trends that are happening and higher and post graduates, patient where we're, I know at law school, switching back to in person handwritten. Yeah. Exams to try and cut down on AI cheating. And
so one of the things we talked about specifically was balancing the pros and the cons of right? So when you're going Into and it's a transition, right? We
turn. We didn't get your overnight. We won't get back to Moving out overnight. But
thinking about the The cost benefit and they're a huge three talks about the trade-off of this product. This gave you real time
feedback and gamified, gamified experience with which you pairs writing. And then whereas, if you're, if you're writing something to benefit,
I've already noticed that, you know, a lot of Tommy's classes like it is English class. Now he's, he's wrote his midterm and that's the first time. Yeah. I
think my kids have hand written that stand a long time and I thought it was great and it's also hard for the teacher, right? Yeah, after years but but I do think. I think it's it's,
there's awareness or there was passion of the balance. Yeah. I think that's really important. It just has a It's a somewhat related topic when it comes to writing if people in here in
the news, Governor Murphy recently, signed his legislation. Yeah, Mandating a quick cursive instruction and grades, three, four, and five.
Which we begin, which we beat them to it. And everything. Great story. No three. We do it. I don't think it's done regularly rates, four
and five. Okay. So now we'll be yeah, we'll wait to see what the what the actual requirements will look like and we'll make sure we're ready to hit the
ground already. Thank you. Um fact that you guys have finance themselves we did so we met on Tuesday, we talked about our reorganized committee,
which is essentially the same group as last year, but right, we thank for his service and I am now our new secretary Essentially, we talked about the stadium bathrooms update. We
have commitment from Agt for significant amount towards that. Project and were waiting on.
The boosters to hear about their fundraising efforts to see what our total fund commitments gonna look like. So we can use that in the most efficient way.
Talked about a playground safety survey that was done. It's not required but as my point about, it does give us extra credit with our insurer. They included
some recommendations as to modifying certain equipment and also identify the areas to highly for additional supervision from. The folks who are supervising
the playground use at recess. We talked a lot about facilities usage, by outside groups, talking about the importance of
outreach to outside youth, athletics groups in town to communicate the changes that were thinking of making additional internal meetings,
were set to discuss facilities, use fees for the newly renovated Auditoriums, There's outreach among other similarly situated districts to inform our own best practices. Talked about
capacity concerns with respect to the construction projects going on this year and extended school year. that being
discussed with building principles, bunch of related impacts talked about how an outside groups use our facilities. We view this as a way to sort of short up the
budget by generating rendezvous revenue, but when we have community groups that are using it, we're looking to cover our costs custodial to each back.
We're not looking to make money off of our local community groups, but we're also ensuring that we're not losing money. We talked about potential state level changes with respect to
the governor's budget meetings and revise our own committee meetings schedule. Mike will talk I think a little bit later today or maybe chuckle talk about the preliminary numbers regarding the assessed
value from the borough. We got some good numbers back there, that will go to tax relief and fiscal year 27. And lastly, we
talked about the audit, which will be presented. And I think that's awesome for approval today or for review and then approval next week. Thank you
questions for stuff. All right. Missing policy were you were you chair for policy when we when we did it. It wasn't so sure. Yes, kinda okay.
thank you, forgot. I totally forgot to. And he was on January 6 and now I had it right. And that's off to Steph. I don't think I'd log off the meeting from prime facility minutes
out. And I was like, Wow, that's making me look really bad, it in there? I was very efficient. Well done. Okay. So we had our policy meeting on January 6th. but we have one policy, the
first reading, which was policy 24. 30 Rockefeller activities. This is a simple one. We basically just changed credit requirements to fully practicing for the last couple of years.
Essentially, we had He's our credits of 13.75. Depending we're going to do eligible for cochlear activities. We've had 15 credits and 27 and a half
credits to 30 credits whether we prepares that the last two years. So we just formalize that I've got the right. Yeah, yes.
All right. Appreciate that. So that was pretty simple that has a corresponding regulation as well. The regulation is not mandated but is provided for
review, which you'll see on the agendas. Matter of fact, it's second readings for 25 30, which is the policy around resource materials, library materials etc which we
discussed Previous board meeting. well, over a month ago and then also corresponding
with, as policy 25-35, again, around the library materials and corresponding regulation, And we had a secondary and policy 9130. which had to do. Of
course, my regulation, tell me what stress? As me. Revise, their policy and regulation guidelines to remove any reference to library materials. Policy 5230 corresponding
regulation around later liable, early dismissals. that was revised to remove Homeroom late slash early dismissal language that is no
longer pertinent. And then we reviewed policies. 4218, which was used possession distribution of substances.
A 4219, which is a CDL and substance abuse. Testing, alcohol, use testing. Employee evaluation regulation which was policy. 4220, That's already
been. Something's already being completed right now by principles. Anyway, 4230 is outside activities in regulation. These are all pretty
straightforward policies 4233 political activities, right? And then regulation employee training 4240 Most of that occurs on the job or during two, hour delayed starts and
this mainly applies to support staff such as ea's and then policy reviewed around four week staff conduct and of course corresponding regulation commentary. I would just say
the the first one about the co-curricular activities we are. We were just cleaning that up to ensure we made a decision about two years ago in a policy. To have our
co-curricular participation aligned with the njasiaa requirements. So this was actually a policy that was a mandated to be updated but it was part of one of our regular reviews and there were some
things that were just outdated and not. Reflective of current practice. So that that was that graduation should be 110 credits as well. Yeah, there's odd
numbers now. It's under 20 credits. Yeah, so that's that's the civilization. Okay. And then a lot of those other things
you're talking about will show up on the networks, the checking next month. That's right. Yeah. And just a reminder for everyone, all our work
policies that are in front of the board. We do post on the public-facing website, it gives a very detailed summary of what's involved in all of those
policy and wrangulations. It also gives community members a chance to see what's being added, what's being taken away,
what's new, what's being abolished. So we we went to detail with every policy regardless meanings. We'd be here for what are generally are to our monthly policy meetings. Okay, I do have a question
though. Um this scholastic achievement requirements. Why were they taken away? Because it's it's not a requirement with Njsia. There's not a scholastic achievement
requirement. And we also believe that there's a lot of intervention that happens with our students with our guides counselors with our
administrative staff, and we have found the vast majority of time. When students are struggling academically for whatever the reason is,
sometimes that cook regular activities. The best thing that they have going for them, and sometimes to remove that works, what we have have found. Does not achieve our goals in
front of these table wasn't more worth forces. So we try to keep the student engaged. and at the same time, provide all the support that we have, our disposal through the
counseling department, through office hours through the teachers, administrative teams to support those students to address that rather than pulling
the broadcast. I mean, I will say that I didn't love it when I mean I wasn't in the meeting, I didn't love it when I saw this
because I the way that you who we are having feel um, I, I will never forget the first year that I heard that track coach talk and talked about. Well, you know, you you're being at a meet until
11 o'clock or one o'clock in the morning is not an excuse not to get homework. Done is not an excuse not to to, you know, keep up with your studies. And he said to me and this stuck with
me that when you're at these meets, you can always tell the of kids because they're circle and they're, they're the ones that are In getting your work
done and that to me is who we are. I mean, I don't know how many maybe there is you know, point zero one percent of kids that aren't doing and they're in sport.
But I feel like this is who we are sports. Don't have it. Yes, sports don't have that requirement so we can talk so you have curricular even less,
you know, you situation with that where people are tracking state or you wrestle for me, you're up throughout the minds a week. There was no requirement
for you to have a GPA. You just want to catch a class if I'm in a chess club once a week. I just see I have amount of chess club that that's how it was. Wasn't the same thing to see plus. So
sorry, he was like that did money. There was wasn't logic for that. Yeah, when I when I first started coaching here, if you guys see average, if you fell below, see average. You're
off. Well and that's where I was going. Okay? Feel like that's where it should be, but then we got and we got challenged in that the state says you're eligible wrestling that happened
and now that became challenging and yeah that's change, think that if we're school for all students, some students may excel at sports and they might not be academically gifted. They
might work very hard. I don't think that these student necessarily means that they're not putting in the time in the effort, they could actually get,
they could struggle and maybe they take hard classes or, or even Regular ED classes that are challenged for them. and
maybe they excelled a sport and into I would feel as though you'd be, I mean we don't have the same reason and no support
and comfort is certain software, right? Right. So it's generally not a problem where we have but nonetheless I just I understand you. I don't think it Lowers are cases,
monitor. Never moved anyone in the last. Okay, that's what's not it's not really it's not really good talk about that. It's not it's not a problem,
we're facing so then that's right. But I would just I guess guess I don't feel as though that that means that we lower standards not. Anyway I think
our students have Individuals unique standards that though. You have 90% prophetic athletics and 85% and 90% in activities. They're the same scenes, right?
yeah, I mean it was just philosophic Ally with your failing, it's different, you're failing. There is a standard, you have to deal with cancer credits. If you
fail, you can't say this is if you're That's the lowest equation. Okay. All right.
Anyone else? All right. Mike, did you have anything for Oh, really? Okay, ptfd, Oh, PTA updates. We've been going to some PTA meetings. I am not but um, so and talking about the the budget which we're going to get
to really a very similar thing that we've been doing there. But anyone else want to share any other PTA updates, Just the Lizzy meeting. I thought went
very well. I continue to be impressed by the the turnout that our PTAs have. I think it's really nice to see so many
people in the room and I thought it went well, it sounded like everyone was very engaged. There were a lot of questions. Let's see. More turnout for high
school. Yeah, but yeah, I remember doing this together was a great job Chuck. And Chuck. Did you say the middle school? The next 17
minutes bunch of February. Yes, we Monday and yeah, anticipation of the storm and I was actually I was supposed to attend. I would be out of town. So somebody wants to pinch you on that one? Yeah, I will be
there. So Has its multicultural night. Next week, it's gonna be Wednesday night. What is that forever? January, 28th.
I can't even do it. I don't know. So, the 5:30 to 7:30 it's a really fun night. I really suggest everyone to come out in the past. We've had like,
creating fried chicken. Homemade ripas I'm gonna be serving some chicken plow this year, so it's really delicious and fun night. We're also gonna have a
performance from Key Arts Productions. He's done assemblies that all the schools before on the evolution of It kind of like mirrors black history with abolition music. So
it's a really fun engaging experience. That will be the last half hour from 7 to 7:30, What time does it starts at 5:30 right? Yeah having gone on a
couple. I think the first one that you guys went to I went There was a really really fabulous. Yeah. So yeah I think
you're around. All right, so moving on regulations for board review. There's some regulations there. Remember those aren't really something we've known, but
they're FYI. Dr. Priola. Do you have anything to add? I, I have a couple. Oh, just add on. the policies or no, just to add to zero every. Yeah. Yeah. Just a couple items.
We are putting the fishing touches on Stakeholder Survey on the use of generative artificial intelligence. the outcome of
that will be based on the feedback that we get will either be a formal policy that the board will review and prove or consider approving or simply guidance that will provide to our staff and
students and one of the factors that will help determine that is whether or not current acceptance. Our current acceptable, use policy
really covers. Much of the information that would be in a Gen AI policy. We're not certain about that yet. We're going to parents teachers and students.
Although we haven't narrowed down which grade level of students will be surveyed, we'll answer a variety of questions indicating their current use, what their concerns
are. And we want to ensure we have policy or guidance. That helps support the ethical and efficient use of AI, you know, in our school district, Our extended day, kindergarten
priority registration deadline is quickly approaching on February 2nd. We've had over a hundred parents expressed interest in the districts program for
example. Currently keep in mind, we have 25 seats at each school. Program. at Elizabeth, Hadden will be housed at central next year, due
to the pending construction. Currently, we have interest from 45 families that Tatum 28 from Haddon and 45 etc. So obviously we're very confident based on those numbers that we
will fill three sections. And on the at the February 19th Board of Education meeting. Math and Science. Supervisor Russell Pell Greedy, and Our Ela and Social Studies supervisor
Katie Russos. We'll be writing an updated performance report comparing our district's achievement data compared to our district factor group. And I do
not want to steal their thunder. But the thing I will share is that the WE outperformed the factor group
in And Math District Line. Wow. Okay. Nice, thank you. Do you want to say about now? Yeah, that's what I thought. I don't really have
anything either, so I think we just go take it away. Yes, Let's just move on to our Community. I will practice by saying that I
can actually get a little bit of legislative, but yes. So, um, I'm going to look the text. I sent the two. Of you. So unfortunately are
there was no funding reform made before this new legislative cycle, which means that it has to be reintroduced. Um, the research that they've done will hopefully attach
itself to the the new introduction of the bill, whatever that looks like, but it was not in many of the swaps of things that were passed, it was not there. Most
of the things that I wanted were not in there. So, in a lot of you, similar interests as me, the pilot sharing, Was not passed.
Still again, they anticipated being again brought off before legislation, but it did not. It did not get made it to law state, health care
reform. Did not get made into law. We got cursive right? so, anyway, here, I think that's a cost and we got here. An electronics. I met with us. I met with the middle school. My
middle school panel. On Tuesday. We talked about the cell phone and electronic point walls. And And there's more clarity around the cell phones, which will be
another conversation but it we will have some some we'll have we'll have some flexibility and have an institute that All
right, so long. We're talking about the budget and we're usually don't start talking about budget in public for about two months.
But the budget challenge there's challenging last year including more challenging this year and we want to start talking in public so people can see
stakeholders who see where we are and how we got to where we're going to be, because there's gonna be pain points for everybody in this. No one's gonna come out of this on stage either through taxes going up
and do our custom school district. Here's our mission statement. This is crucial. So I think at the ingredients we still have to read this because
when we talk about this in the future, Today ain't going forward. This is what we have to keep in mind, we have to try to accomplish this with fiscally
responsible. Keeping with it and developing a budget, they help students. I bet about 20 slides in here. Some of them. I'm going to show you and tell
you what they are. This will be posted on the website tomorrow they want to before you've already had this. Um, but if I go to a deep thought of these 20
slides, right now more than have a time to discussion. And the goal here is to have people see what talking about in the Lord, give their thoughts and then we'll move forward.
Eventually the board that couldn't say shot, I want you to come back with a budget. Looks like free budget. That's one of those APC, I'll do that. We'll
bring them back. four times, whatever case you do until we get to budget, everyone believes is the best place we can make. Um, just the way the ground
rules here, do you want us to do? You want to us to talk while you're doing this? Or is it easier? Is it? Do you think it's more efficient for you to do your presentation? And then
we have my mind, I was gonna present and talk but if there's a question, stop me for questions. This is where this issue. So you've made recognize this,
right? We're at 46.8 40.6 million, dollars 75%, At roughly is, is salary and benefits. We are the people business. This covers direct
instruction supplies. The special revenue is grant. That's motion federal line toward a special education and we have a debt service from Bond reference
that the two bond refund, This is a tax lady history, the general fund right now is completely two million dollars or that service way. You see the last three years you're
2.9 2.8 and 2.3. What we keep saying is a cap. on tax levy, but They put in these allowances and flexibility allowances for
enrollment and for better health care benefits and that leads you above that. I'm actually just slide later shows, how many people go above that and point I sliding to say 2%. percent,
simply doesn't work. It's not sustainable way to run a school district because every possible enough. So significantly. Wallpaper last year. We're
hooking some place this year on. You cannot lose more than 3% of your state aid. You cannot gain more than six percent. You're saying it that way, you're not
called flat foot when you're um, are some of our challenges, the projections, they look at rolling trends with that things cost drivers and their budget calendar. You see their governor's budget comes in February. And by April, may we
have the final here in adoption. So we're going through this now. This is the second most important slide. The first most important was our mission
statement. Four Things to Know. These numbers will change. we've never done these numbers publicly, there's only because these numbers change as we get
through the year, two, good examples. We have our projected. Health benefit package for next year and the
cost increase. We go to our broker. We say, we need to have to plan. We give us something. They give us an estimate, They always give us a high estimate, so we can plan and it may come
down so that number is going to change the other number. That's what that has changed since we started. This is our So we
started off in the salary increase and then Mike and his team. Excuse me, did a little deep, it a little bigger deeping, as we're starting with everything now. We're breaking
everything up. We went ahead, we're breaking everything down. Um, Right now are based on our salary to turn it over. We have people around the league so
we're paying The person who's going to leave and their sub and, and they're the long term league of absence. So our salary, if he's looking with a but it's actually big. So we're
gonna see that numbers lower than we originally had it So, I could go through this multiple times. You say, Hey best month, that number was X. Now it's why? That's because
that's what's happening. Notices, it has been made yet on any tax impact or any budget. It's just a discussion story. So we are going to blank slate,
notice additional potential pleasures. Had been me. We're gonna look at things up on here and maybe that will come conversations. but nothing's been decided yet,
and most frequent question is just grab some referendum money and move it over. We can't do that. That's different part of money. We cannot do that.
Um, our budget challenge. This is the the first four lines to tell you the of our challenge. our two percent tax levy is 850,000 a size that our salary
increases are just above 600,000. Or benefit package of the next year is going up 1.99.
So before we do anything, we're 1.5 dollars at home. that's everything else stays the same and for those of us who go to the grocery store or for gas in
our cars or parallelectric bills, nothing is staying the same. So, this is the challenge we're facing right now. We don't know our state aid. And I have
here. Rising costing materials the last two years to make our budget. We've caught on six hundred thousand dollars material supplies for
classrooms. We can kind Right? If we're gonna go about that mission statement and you have to do, we have to hold that line, right? That's something we
have to do. Um, it's a program online textbooks. I make the joke to make a point when I was principal high school my Latin teacher came. And said I knew that in textbooks I said the
language hasn't changed in 2000 years. You don't really like now, all our textbooks online We can't hold on to a textbook and take it together for another
year, right? We have to bring up it so there's costs go up. Um, operation costs. Go up. we had to plan on fully kindergarten by 2029, we're hoping how to coincidence way,
that's a half a million dollars. We need we need to build a bunch of just enough for this year. With that in mind please, we're trying to look ahead. Make make sure we're ready for those things.
These are our largest increases. so you look at the increases, I showed, you know, there's a couple slides ago, 1.5 million
are increases are over four million dollars. And it's 10 things. Basically, one update, you look at that bottom line, 17 smaller increase at the 200,000, but our top 10 things, this is it. Um, we actually
sort of playing we've actually Mike, and I've done some work and started solid solid brainstorming ways to be creative about some of these to
save some money here and there. But these are the things that are really are. challenging for us. The building is notice a new contract or, Hey, there's one up shorts, who is up
transportation? We don't we're walking here with a million dollar transportation. That's, that's what happens, right? And and boy with
transportation challenges, I don't get it is is When we? Think of, when we have to get a whole Bolton bus drivers to play soccer have nice as 500 years
ago. Right? So that's quantum transportation channels. We need to talk that's we're working hard to solve that problem. I can save us a lot of money.
These are our biggest our largest decrease. There's a tuition has been going down copper around general supply offices there. talk about a
number that might change and there's a situation we're going to have a savings and one thousand dollars. Next year, a family moves into town that thing is going
But that, that month, that seems to be lost tomorrow, right? So these are how we're trying to balance this stuff. here's our
last five or six years of taxing, that we had two percent for a while, the last three years with 2.3 2.8, 2.94 the effective tax increase.
When we raise our tax, we've got taxes about 2.94, the actual impact. Or if on a household is not that number. Because if the average assessed value of a
community goes up, it gets spread out differently and it comes down. So you see last year we've got 2.94%, The active effective tax increase on homeowner was 2.1.
The good news down the volume, this is all doing the loom. There's two pieces of good news there. Um, koto says values of the community about 25 23.5 million dollars. That's the
largest, you know, a while that means any tax impact that this year. The effective tax and increase will be diminished significantly significantly. I
can't even do not exact number but it won't be. It'll look like those numbers maybe even better than some of those numbers. And the death of the debt. Service
one balance. You guys an interest, well for the referendum money. And that by law, has to be tax release or
bring it down a half million dollar and passionate That's there's two pieces of good. Can I explain that one part? Because I'm just because this is
always the cons. ENT casual. Image find it a counterintuitive that we say, it's going up 2.9% and it really owes us right? And the visual I always think of is we see all these new homes
coming up but our tax levies only on the amount that we generated the previous year for taxes. So even though these bigger homes are going up and paying higher taxes, none
of that money goes to But it starts to dilute the pool of that 2.9% increase because now they're going to start paying money to the school, because they're now, right?
Because, because the amount that we raise, yes, the bread between them. So they now start paying more of a share of that than they did pay, right? And that's
why now, you know, track. That's why we're not sharing. So, those were not pilot became tax. We would not we would not or any more tax credit. Also you said but Live
in town. That 2% would be dispersed much differently as those. Units. But part of that
bird, knowing that's that's what the pilot challenge it. A pilot can actually benefit a school greatly by giving you extra money, but for taxpayers, it helps them ease the pain a
little bit. Right? Because it spreads out a little bit more. so, and while we're here and because this is confusing, I
would okay if you guys don't have this tonight because they know it's it's complex. I would like to before there's anything that is concrete to have these conceptual things put into a real dollar thing because
we know the average value of a house, we know that that we need to know what can we legally go up to this year? There's a legal cap that we can go up to what is the
legal cap that we are allowed to go to? And then I would love to see at that, number at that cap. The average household which is not really going to be. Let's
pretend it's three percent if they're really not gonna pay three percent because of the assessed value because of the impact. So if we went to the highest number, we could then what would
that that actual dollar be for the average household and I love that you're You last night but I didn't know if you sorry. Sorry. Thank you. Well, this is just.
A little ride at home, we've grabbed some Northern or Northern Canyon County Southern County school districts. And when I call more about how to understand is not a realistic way to one
box, a little bit, we grab these schools. We said Where are That's yeah. College would love 26.73% last year. You had come delran board, he's going to all
they stayed down. I think Penny Soften was lower than they had other piece. Um, do you see we're 2.94 last year? So we're poor. These are not every sport
and ever. You just wasn't kind of look at, um, and what they want to last year. You see the average of 7.7. By the way, we were going to go to 21,000 of
this. The other thing we will call you. This is just taking Operation budget divided by number of students, that's our number. And you can see that
we're down here. We're about 17 4. We're the second lowest still here. the 7225 and Audubon. If we were going 21, which is average of 11 million dollars. So that's where we are. So we're pretty
lead now. And we also do this for jay dishes, JK 12 only because Okay, it's six district budget. It must be different or
false for people but you can see here, the same type of thing um that we were pretty low on these things and the cost for people there. So what we're
running, pretty mean, Given the fact that we have the budget challenge right now. By the way, just out if you're actually not makes it by the closest size, we are you
there in culture people? Um, here's a budget office. Here's what the land in front of us right now, and this is what the board is going. To have to tell, Chuck to go out and look and
do this is where we are with our maximum increase as we know it right now. the tax Ladies 844,709 dollars. We are not getting enrollment increase this year. There's a way we might be able to make
that happen. We get some things but we wouldn't be able to probably would not go that far anyway our health care
allowance because our healthcare went up so much. We can raise our taxes above 2%. By one we can go. You can add 1.6 million
dollars, roughly in healthcare levels Something about The taxa, which is almost 4%. We have bank cap last year from 226,000 $159,000 at 226 retires again
this year so we don't use it goes away. Um, so in as in all the massive we can go. Would be 2.7 million dollars or 6.452. That's what the board. That's the parameters, we're
invest in the same boxing playing that with those numbers. Yes. But again, that's six point four five, taking it, this step farther the Linda said If we apply that
2.724 over across. Yeah, that's what I think they're. Yeah. What is that percentage? Get to. Is that coming? You're good. Yeah.
Look, we're so engaged. Um, Here's what. Here's our history about who's the last three years of just putting this from basically if we want to see. Where have you been? That's
looking back. We're looking forward now. This is it this is the maximum tax increase. So this lazy got two 2.5, what that would be for the average assessed house and how much per
year? If you ask me a mathematic question, right now, I'm going to turn in my catalano as a former trained, English teacher.
This this is the information we're looking at right now like this allow for the Yeah, the effectiveness and appreciated. Yeah, yes, 2016 facto, yeah. So these are the numbers over the board, says,
Chuck go out and give me a budget. Check Try See what you get us. What looks like we're going, 3%. We're looking at three percent, we can see, I
would probably, but at 1.2 million dollar increase. See how that affects us? What we lose, what we can keep and we
know the impact on taxpayers. Um we're trying a lot of work here with percentages, so dollars are dollars but we're talking about raising tax like percent. Not
right now or so much. We're trying to make it relatable as many ways we can. which might my next slide. I think is one of the uncomfortable I say that this
morning questions. This is really so, what you're asking for, to be way too many numbers, if I don't like, but and I think this is probably more
helpful to the average person. Anyway, what I usually Explain. Five million dollar you should equal signs ago, actually decreases. It's an effective
point nine, six percent. So 2%, increase on our levy so we're saying two percent, right? But
that is actually a 1.04% on. Of and I'm giving you the average assist that number. Never hear another like so. So what tracks? So what, what 96 dollars a year is?
It's really 1.04% on the average assessment because that is that, that in tax faculties, So the six point four five is six point four. Five minus 0.96
which is five Yeah. so, What is, what is the percentage for tax? I always, would my
teachers are my are I think I love my teachers. They're all great. But there are they having value? That is not like that. When I say when we're
talking about budget, I do talk about teachers who says it's a hundred thousand dollars to me That's a teacher, right? That's what that's 100,000, amusement
was a teacher, me teacher means point two, three seven percent. That's what a hundred thousand dollars. So if the board says, Chuck, if we go from 2.5 to 3.5 what did, what does that buy for
teachers? But that's the type of stuff that's how I'm trying to this is how we're going to try obey this out. So when we have these discussions, we thought it cuts not cut, so it
keeps knock each. We can kind of gauge what that means. I would say, what does it cost to do this, the SROs up here. because last year, We cut the SRO and
the communicating out and said their decision. We said, Okay. you're right, we're gonna put it back in, we work with Borough for a shared services, that
reduce the cost. Yeah, so low cost is 0.07%. that's, Um, so that's how we're trying to frame this. These are things that I went
through that, when we got hit really hard in 2011, Governor, Christie, And the schools were just decimated with the budgets. These are things a lot of
schools. Want to first or and these are things that have really are discretionary. Go curriculate. Middle school athletics? I just freshman athletics. These are cuts that
were very commonly made by our neighboring schools. We did not cut them. But these are things that people look at. I say, What
about this? And because these areas, I would tell you this I hate this idea. We have to discuss a lot of things like I need my teachers. once a kid
starts to learn to hang out on the street, they don't know how to actually. So once that's we just talk about why we want our kids involved. If these if
these things are touched those kids, there's a chances less involvement that hurts who we are. So that's there's information there. These are
things that we got to move backwardly. These are real. These are real tough Things like we can't. we can't use our
protocols but that's four thousand dollars a year for the products. PDA. I've said this a couple times you've come to the board meetings. That's our infrastructure. We're not going to ground me. There's other
areas, we could look at those at maintenance co-curricular or activities. For years. this district took money out of bills
and grounds and shifted it over and then you walk by cadence six years ago and the wall. But literally there was you could see the building, right? We can't do that anymore. We know
we had to take care of the buildings. We've responsibility that the town is letting us the community settings, investing, these building, and making better. We have an allegation,
maintain the buildings. Professional development is infrastructure for our teachers, our teachers our professionals. They want to learn and grow, our
students need teachers, and learn to grow. We've got to look at the progressive adults, like, that's a valuable power. Closer. So, I mean, that's a
faster. Gave a lot of slides. Um, that's a setup for how to put the board which are one now have their about. how to
approach this develop, marching orders for Chuck and Mike and Gino and we'll move on to that. And I'll stay here in case we go
back a few slots. Can you go back to the? The slide with the percentages. The tax increase in the
household number. Okay. Yeah, thank you are just that. I just It's the one thing that I do understand right? Is that just to add to be excitement of budget season that
because we have a few incoming governor. We will actually get our numbers. maybe even closer. Oh, that's possibly. They're allowed two
weeks later. How much money we will get. so, The good news is that, is it now signed into law that they can only change three percentage, cut three increased maximum oxides. So the maximum
we can lose is three percent. That's the benefit because that was not on Philly ball. Okay. So
that was not always the case. So, We're gonna expect. so, every time those numbers,
It's in. It's it's in, it's in our budget scenario. Like our what our anticipator revenues are just no agnel thing. So if it does get pushed back two
weeks, our Our meeting where we anticipate improvement. Attention budget is the day we get a stated numbers. You may
have to push that meeting and Our budget is due on the 19th. It's a week later we would have to have a special meeting
sometime between the 12th and I would say the 18th of when say Have it, right? So just we don't know that yet so I can't meet if your budget is based on. We're not going to have to
scramble, so if we lose 100,000, we're right there. The the Best case scenario is we actually gain and and then some of the things that we've cut out, we can put back
in. Right? So or we can lower the taxes for four tattoo. Yeah. Lower the tax. And I mean the tax money instead of me.
Aspects of the wall later that came out. I mean additional answer. We didn't know that yet. Yeah, right. And we still don't
know, right. What did you say? So sorry. You're also your biggest decrease. Might be more than that. I know. Like it's
involved in the governor can do that. so, what happened last year? Just for people don't know it. But when you see these big jumps in
the 20s, they didn't have bank hat or health and the state said, last year, If you raised education adequacy, you can go
as high as you need to go. And these school districts did that and you actually got to. You got a grant if you did it. The
grant was very, very small. So last year, if we had done what each and colwood these, we could have gone 16.7% last year. that would have got us to an adequacy
based on the state formula and we could have jumped out to high and our board was so we didn't do that. Three percent offer. Um but that's how they
got up the high. They don't have they didn't have that much, bang, cap or health care. They the state said, There's there's districts are really struggling right now.
And so we're gonna let them do this. So that's just a really important point to state that again. Last year, we voted to not take Money.
Because it was more important to us to not raise taxes. So we said No thanks. We don't want your money. We're going to hold back here so that I mean it's it's really worth restating
what we did last year well and because that's the thing that it really, it's it's I think that, that the whole thing is that there's just misnomers all
over the place. It's not stating it comes from our taxes. So aid, implies a gift and it's not a gift we. It's now location of our state.
Yeah. So so that in it sense is I think unfair to call it eight because it acts like, it's something extra we're getting big, but it's not. It's our tax money. Just coming back to us.
And then this grant for you, to have to tax your your constituents up to 20% for us. Anybody that 13 in order to get that grant. Thank you, it's not realistic. We're going to 16.6 and we've
gotten 190,000. Yeah which is like how much is that? What they're forcing. What I don't like about is the government forces us to say, No, we don't want your grant when what really we don't want
to do is tax our family, right? Um, that that, you know, as a whole other thing. But I think too, we have to think about it
because yes, a hundred thousand dollars is a teacher but that can't even come into play until we Handle that 1.8 million, that is
an increase in health benefits. Like if that's it, that's it. That's it. That's a non-negotiable we can't use. No
we're not good. Yeah. And that's okay. That's an average. That's average procedure salary benefits. So you have we have
many teachers who were above that we have some you know we're glow. So that's probably 15. Steps is probably a step seven. oh really, you know you You guys, you always do a great job and Chuck. This is as you
said, Yeah, this is the calendar situation all over again. So, Here, here's my two cents of the things that, you know, that that
where I would or wouldn't go. Um, I you put sports up there, um, middle school. If it's only point one eight percent, but if you needed to go there, there's redundant
sports. So I would say, you know, if we had to cut reduction sports, we're not hurting our kids. Um I personally would
hold on to freshman sports, I don't have a horse in the race anymore, but I think it's so incredible to this school. I think that freshman sports
helps these kids transition from eighth grade to the culture. That's here. There is this great camaraderie that happens. I mean, there's, there's
beautiful things that Freshman sports, I would say. Raise the activity fee. A lot of these, these families are coming from
youth sports, where they're spending more money than what they do for the high school. We see that and thank you for doing
the work of what other other schools pay. I think that going in line with some other schools. What they do with 300 dollars for athletics. But if it's only
only activities and no sports 200, Maybe that's hard to, you know, to chase. I don't know if it is or not with the Max of 600 per family. I think that's reasonable. We could put it on package together.
I think facilities fees. I know that we've held back for a really long time. Beyond. We'll make that it is not just cover. You've been in a situation where we've been
losing money. Yeah. I think it's more than just covering our costs. I think that it's contributing to to keeping these schools running. That's the way that it's not trying to make money
but contributing to keeping the schools running anything that we can do like that rather than tax people. I personally would be behind. And then clearly we need to go up higher than we ever
have before. So That's what I'll start with. I dream of heartedly on the auditorium, especially I think the new auditoriums offer a lot
of value to the region, frankly, and so, where we're talking about non-school groups wanting to use those nice new spaces. It should be commensurate with what
they would pay in the open market because that's a resource that for students have access to but that are communities authorized for our students, but it should be
Leveraged to offset the tax burden, where it can be. well. And I think in going along those lines, like we are putting so much investment on so many levels into these updates and the new
facilities and things like that, that by really charging more of a market rate. For outside organizations to come in and utilize. Its protecting that investment and
even kind of like providing an insurance on like the community, the town has entrusted us with their money to make these enhancements and that I just think it's
yeah like to really go with. This is what other organizations other facilities are charging that to have these other broken down things like you said, so that we're not losing money, but that we're building more. Protective factor to
protect the invest. We just talk and finance too about for Levels of groups protecting our investment in things like the soundboard. Yes. And
determining, whether or not we need to have Deposits taken or things like that to ensure that. God forbid someone damages it like they
support that wholeheartedly. That that is something that Chuck. You had said in my except the administration is looking into as part of this process,
that's a great job nation for sorry. One thing I do want to get done by next Thursdays last night at the pizza, at A parent said maybe was, Can you put together one pager of this?
It doesn't one pager for this. So, I'm gonna try to get something like that together. and I'm thinking of one page, but one page on the website with specific email, connection, so
that people who input or ideas of what we want to do on the budget, have a way to express that so that we go directly to that good. We also whatever the one page that you make. Could
you also save it as an image file? So it could be short on social media and things like that. Because I feel like I so
no no something for us to think about these different ways we can share. Yeah. One of the things that we're going to be aware of coming up and, and this is a good thing,
but it's challenging thing. Having this conversation is early and talking about actually how difficult with these pain points, maybe we have. I'm glad as we have
people here tonight. I'm hoping how many people are watching online right now? There's a lot.
16. We're going to get feedback on things and that's good. Sometimes feedback on these things is challenging too. And I tell the story people who are
here in 2011, who sat in this room when we had, I think we lost six or seven teachers that year when Christie made the cut and and people lined up and meet her
public comments and what they felt And if you're saying lose a An elementary school teacher. No one knows what that is. But
when you talk about programs, like you're actually talking about people, right? And so it is something I think as we approach this we have to keep
cognizant of how we talk about what we plan on doing and how we're gonna make these cuts. Because, you know, everyone who works, here we cherish and we certainly
don't want to as much. They make a joke that I look at them. That's not really how we do it. So I think it's very cognizant of you are now talking in public about
People's life. So that's something. We should keep the back of our mind. whenever we talk about this and we have to consider the fact that we have increasing enrollment like imminent, not
even long-term and so understanding, like we have to maintain capacity. I'd like to
see to the impact of tuition. student revenue knowing that that's going to compete with increasing enrollment but we can increase capacity in our
elementary schools, we have class caps, the high school and to some degree, the middle schools, a lot more flexibility in terms of how you allocate
teachers and bodies in the room to meet everyone's programs And depending on what the tuition price is, is that a way for us to help avoid losing a teacher or losing two teachers?
I actually think one of the Tomcations we should have is we made pressure so that tuition competition. I think we may too high and that was You know, we
get fewer fewer full between tuition was what tuition shoes now are a factor but I mean that I don't know if we can go back on that. But I mean that's
certainly since we can consider look at I've been thinking a lot about that. Because we used to have much significantly higher. Tuition populations. You do
now. That's yeah. Yeah. And we did raise it substantially. Yeah. So that's that's place. So what like for example um, that might be idea that Mike and
I came up with the other day is Publicity dollars to drive ahead. Thanks for soccer game because we can't find bus drivers. if we guaranteed bus drivers, 32 hours and gave them benefits,
and we got two full-time bus drivers, we don't have to go to Holcomb anymore. We save Fifty thousand dollars is it? Yeah, 50 or 60,000 if we could get if we
could take, 360 runs away for 45. That district. But the Caution arrangements that we do for other things. So there are other
smaller districts that buses are Part. So we actually lost a bus driver for another school that he's doing exactly that
you're paying people, they're guaranteeing their hours and so if we get too much drivers, And they do 200 routes for us. Each for sporting events we take 400 short runs off the holcomb. That's his significant savings.
So that's we're looking, we're looking at doing those type of things. That's why that's why we stay what the tuition. Thank
you people. That it might be again with every level of yoga people. Bad idea, right? That's one of those that's one of the things we talk about you. So
we're walking We have a transportation budget. But we're a little bit by the number of buses. We have, we have that's what I was, right? So we
hire me. So really we said I think that we are heading North Face number buses we had if we could use for two people, that's
great because safe we can't do it for more than two because you're not right? Okay. Silly
question. But I'm just kind of like Putting it out there. And again, it's been a little while since I've been teaching in the classroom. So so much has
changed, but you know how we're talking about going back to like pen and paper and things like that. I know that all the textbooks are online and I but I know that
with that, that is the licensing fees, right? For so many of these things that we have to pay year over year that that it gives them the
ability to, you know, edit and update materials, right online with the textbooks. It just throwing it out. There is there
any way? Is there any? subject or class that you could, maybe even if it was almost like in an off year, like Have any? I thought it was the same thing. You're saying, go back to the
police where they have a professor. That's still, a cost, of course, run challenge. Yeah it's more they are more interactive than just The other thing is we have to
buy 202, It becomes that investment and the textbook companies. They've got this set up where you can't, you can't
win, right? They've got this set up for you. You automatically like you know you it's kind of set up. Yes the only real options all right you out of the textbooks is what they do. You would intuitively
think it's a lower cost option that's not necessarily the case. really first example, and social studies online places like 20 some dollars per student for online access to the
next book but the textbook yourself. Wow. Yeah. And that's that textbook is gonna survive two and a half years. Yes, students. every case and but,
I mean, we don't have the money right now, you have the money, you have to have the money to put it there and and I get that they're doing all that, but I'm
just also curious as they're, you know, anyway, To explore any of that. I'm also saying it as a learner, like I just love holding something in my hand to
read and I'm, and I'm thinking about, like so many of the like books and things that it's great. That, you know, when my middle schooler forgets, his,
his book is, you know, reading book is novel, his textbook at school. yes, we can go online but there is something also to be said for actually holding
the physical material and reading it. And that's kind of another scale. Now that I just wanted to just throw it up and I did have
one other question of I remember when we had our joint meeting this summer, I don't know if there's anything over here but
there was that there was some discussion on, is there any things that we could cost share with the burrow on any that they haven't been receptive to setting? They have responded. They're gonna send
the meeting? Yes. But we haven't got response to the meeting, just yes. All right. Oh yeah. I always been great but they're at
least. I remember in our discussion at that table. There was a lot of really loved about you and haven't gone far, they
do you call shares. They're better. Talk about official cultures when we did when we need a truck to work on it, but
they just give us a try. Yeah, right. So there are times we get access to their equipment and stuff like that. We do that. We swap those type of things
removal. Do we have our facilities? People just no removal. Do they hire someone that we have capacity than like not really snow. Not really sure like I'll give you
practical examples. Like we have like That what was our restaurant? You know, if there is a treated style, we've got to remove it all this part of the chipper.
As they show the same office. They're and at the same goes the other way they need to borrow our lights out. Okay, maybe, maybe, when we do have this, this joint meeting,
we can explore like a bigger but I don't know really. I think it's fields. Like I feel like we could someone Or at least solidify what those
rules are. But sometimes I think you have a bigger maintenance department. Yeah. That's what we can't go to a meeting and be like, Is there something we can
do? We have to come with a list? I think the only people that would know that are maybe yes, folks. And I think that we have to I If you guys can talk, is
there something you haven't explored? But I'm guessing that you've explored. Yeah, the areas that are explorable and we're having shared services callings
would and other districts. I don't know if we, we look at Programming but we don't have a large. Level that I which learning population, right? Do we
considered shared services for that? And we don't even have and try it. You know? I mean I'm thinking of like typical shared
services. We don't like, Oh, we have 11. So, is that, is that I didn't know that. That's something that a lot of
districts will do a shared service with Yeah. No. Because we don't have 11 in a single language are not required to provide the level of services that have associated costs. So
our our We do. We're part of a consortium. So we're part of a program with Foster County Special Services School District. They administer our
multilingual learner grant. With that we get professional development services, we get contract with services when
we're needed. Like four thousand dollars. It's not a significant cost and the overall cost of that comes from the district's general offering budget to support multilingual
learners. I would, I would say it's under $1,000 What's that proposal? For. Oh, you know, I think you can event. Oh yeah, thank you.
And because our Title Three One. So our Is what it's mandatory. If our allocation is less than $10,000, we actually
have to be pointed. And it's, it's minimal. All right. Well, we're getting getting to be about 40 minutes. I don't know if we do. We have any, any marching
orders? I agree with Linda on preservation of athletics. I I But the preservation of the
Curricular. Frankly. I'm in favor of preserving as much. As like toxic grease wise and then seeing what? Are the biggest line items and what
could be moved. But I would love to see a budget that keeps everything in tactful. Does that look look like? All right, so you so I will come back and I can show you if we if
you cut nothing but that's six and a half percent or whatever it is. Yeah. I think that is an exercise in futility. I think that the fact
that we're not going to cut anything and we're going to go to the max I don't think we're gonna do that. I don't think we will either, but seeing the outer family. Yeah, I think
right having a baby alive and having the biggest, So what is it? And then what are the biggest things that well outable. Well, of all? Well yeah, more mitigable, more,
maybe more productive. Not the biggest things that we can touch like the biggest thing is health care, right? So that we have,
so yeah, those and out of those, most of those are Unputable. We can certainly break that down. I meet Mike and our meeting Tuesday. We're meeting a lot
these days. I mean, Tuesday morning and then we're meeting with all the everyone who has a budget district we're meeting with all of them on Tuesday. It starts having That meeting
where we sit around and talk about. Okay, this is our situation, We're all aware of it now. you know, I start
talking embracing ideas there and sometimes that we did a really nice job relationship. That's really, that's really, really Um, we had some people who run this job this year like
we realizing departments to save jobs this year and you remove that and then we save some positions like being able to do that last year. Well, we look at
that. you know, so there are a lot of opportunities. Well, we will find opportunities to say but I'll come back with certainly. What would it cost?
if someone won the billion dollar lottery to pay the difference for us but that was checking every right and then some of the bigger numbers that actually are things that we
think We can touch because they're so those, those will the first three up there. We can't touch there. That was 75 80.
Starting to go find me. Yeah, I mean I'm also thinking times that I see a lot, and it'll think that it's necessarily
While we accurate in every single circumstance that there's a lot of criticism sort of statewide about administrators versus teachers and have we become too
administrator heavy. I don't think our district is but I would love to see you know, this is how we're laid out administratively and this is the value that we're getting because I think about our content supervisors
and that is such a valuable position the same source somewhere. I structural podcast because we are PTA present or like the Jay justice, the same source as a misery of cost
limits and cost per people and like I'll be honest look at our cost per people but what we relation to all the other
districts all over, we're clearly don't have a lot that we can be like, well, let's go down to 15,000 people. I don't we're doing anything. Yeah, so I, I think it's safe to
say, Don't have a lot, a lot of heavy, right? That's the thing that state would allow us to increase that per people cause by like 15,000 dollars, but
they want us what they wanted. to hear that, I just so anything. What else can we do for you? That's it for now. I'll give a brief report next week. What we have and then I'm probably gonna I'm going to ask
if we can do this every month now, for the end, and we'll chip away at it and as we get more conversations, we'll have to be more formed in what a bring back and I'll have better
direction. I'll be able to get better information back out and just to make this really topless off balance that started to move in, people are starting to
move into the places and the place It hadn't feel. We'll have to see students yet, but I think they're moving like one or two. Apparently, we're not just notification. I just
remember. We're, I mean, yeah, that they're moving in, but we still don't know. That's the question. No, that's this property, only, that's not the
first feeling frustration. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So we'll we'll know more about that as we come along to. Really awesome
that you guys have done this. Earthly. to begin this really elaborate complicated process. So early is going to be, it's gonna continue to be beneficial. We keep iterating, you guys are
coming up with very creative ideas. We're generating new ones every time you present at a a PTA forum and all those conversations are happening in. Right. So three or three down to
go. Yeah. So you'll continue to get new ideas. It sounded like that the one pager that, I'm sure you won't make size 4 fonts, because it is that will get out for folks to respond to. We'll
know that about ideas and I love the idea of saying like community. What are your ideas? How you know what are we not thinking of because similar
email not just I think We have our point of view and that the sroth these are really good example and we didn't see We we were making cuts, we're
down there that that's this that really and then the community said, Miss you miss that one. Sure and so we fixed it I'd like to know before you visit again this year, right? So I think
that would be helpful there too. Yeah, that's the expectation. That Even if there is, we were all agree. We want
to get rid of the? Yes, sir. Oh, gonna be some pain. So let's just please, we're not all Yeah. There's there's a different type of pain. Yeah. Yeah. Right I said that's the beginning. Okay there's probably
gonna be a level of Pain. There's very painful. I just Escaped, okay so um, thank you for that. Thank you for all that. That was great work.
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citizens are expected to maintain a courtesy and civility. Hey, any comments? I've been here. No one have you? men, and I guess the one thing I
wanted to say is not like I don't ideas or anything, but this mindset of where we're operating from, which is that it's not possible to break even where we are,
like, there is going to be an increase. I mean, that's the Most realistic way to look at this. And so, what makes me
nervous is that there's going to be an increase and there's going to be things Cut, like, if there's gonna be an increase, I'd like to see a bigger increase and see gains.
see us like Add something to the educational experience. Not you know, we're gonna increase half as high as we can go, but we're going to
see cuts, two versus going to four or five percent, but seeing something beneficial. I think that that's a better place to look at it from then like how many things
can cut just to do it like a minimal increase which is going to happen. I know it's like not definitely, it's not definite,
it's not definite but realistically, there's just not enough there to cut, so I don't
know. I don't think anybody. Can pick. Yeah, I don't think anybody can picture paying that much more to get. Um, that makes sense. That's very good. Thank you. Anyone
else? You can always email us to with ideas, Okay, we'll close public comments. Agenda. This is a work session. So we'll just go through the
agenda quickly. We will be voting governance. It's always weird to January because we'd like for so long about having a workflow. Let me
tell you. This is like 131 days in January, I know. Okay, curriculum and special education and stoked about the PMA field trip. I think that'll be great. such an untapped resource and I
know it used to be one of the trips but I think at least selfishly, like, for my son with covid, like, it went away. And so it's like he's never been
their own switch. Now, like I went until high school and that was only with like a small group I think it's great to get them
all over there and Children are free at the piano 18. So parents the great inexpensive. I used to take my eyes all the time. They do little arts. Oh yeah.
Personnel. Business and finance. It's the full audit in there already. I don't I have in the link is a link. but if there's
a link there, that's why prepaid for some reason, I didn't I didn't click on that. Yeah, I
might have And my interested in earlier. I mean. All right.
Minutes. Items for future consideration. Right. Okay. I just think we should continue to
identify areas for legislative advocacy because as the public comment pointed out and I think it's really key, we're so constrained in what we can do,
where we have federal requirements that we have to follow, but then our funding is allocated on a state basis. And we have folks in Trenton that
are supposed to be representing us and allocating those funds Fairly cross state to ensure that every child gets the quality education their
entitled to We need to keep pushing. I think that button and also You know, also consider advocacy on healthcare costs.
Healthcare costs are our biggest driver. There's nothing to say that we can't also.
encourage more being done at the state and federal level to help. Absolutely didn't get. But I
agree. Before you start, I just want to say we are on, we are in in contact with the burrow to schedule the meeting to discuss
the pilot good. Um So, and that will be any impact for next year, but those seven years, but but it's so, you know, that we will touch base with you.
That's great. And the goal remains what we talked about. To have a preliminary plan. by the end of the school year,
corrects? Right. We better get cracking. That's great. and so, in line with, first of all, things that are mandated and and secondly, turning over every stone and
making sure that we are, we, we are elected to protect the school and protect the, the finances of community. I thought it was very interesting couple
weeks ago in the retrospect, there was an article about Barrington and in their meeting, they talked about Tiger residency checks under under review and they said that they're
continuing a broader quoting, the article continuing a broad review of student residency including whether to hire an outside consultant that offers a data-driven verification
program So you know with with everything that we're looking at, I mean, I don't I don't know if everyone even understands the just,
paying taxes in in town, does not mean that you, you can come to school here that you, you have to be a resident. You have to live here. Um, and I just think
that it's important that people understand that we need to protect the finances from every angle. And if someone is not living in town, but coming to our schools, that's not fair to the residents. And I
thought it was interesting that Barrington that up in their meeting. And I just wanted to, at least throw it out there. And trust, you know, we actually discuss the policy,
maybe December. Yeah, yeah, look pretty, putting it changing the policy so that as you change building, so it's great, it's not great. You got a reconfirm, your credit
president, you know which I'm sure at first and we people will shrug your shoulders and be XY and David If you, if you have
your glasses, it's not have your phone. That's one way big deal. But um just just to make sure and you know, Leases or one
other things which right? We've still like Mike and I started talking about that. Make sure we're on top of those things. That's, some of the building
level. I would codify. It's all happening. but that is something that's been on our radar. We've been and that's the shared service of college. He's a president for, right? That's
what that's what that is, right? So it is an area that we have to look at and a big difference now is You know. Senior
privilege. By law now you can't answer your private, you have to charge tuition, right? So really, yeah, at least, you know, can be good to be a
dollar. But, you know, so, so there are things we do need to look at the residency. The lesson we learned in Covid. When we had seniors, we took the bus tour,
giving their gifts a lot of miles and those buses. Because it's very milder. People are living in trouble. Pretty for
kids, who is the Columbus out So we are we have been aware And I think I'm looking at best practices of other districts possibly larger districts that
that maybe this is even more of a challenge for that. What criteria are they using to determine residency? And how do they the other day? maintain authenticity of us? You
know, something that's good. I saw that. I open to this is currently. Hey so this yeah, we're looking at this some software, it's called clear but we got it. So I know
he's actually asked me a couple questions already. So like you said, like they charge into what his people who are you.
Of the information. Have access to it is on a very tight leash. I have this area, very important
stuff but yeah, and it's, you know, There are districts that actually they have full-time people. That only do this and depending
on the volume of people who are like I mean, so the cautious Washington House a full-time so, how tapping districts on the shoulder like that, that's where, you know,
I've been connected actually are are our attorney, maybe that connection for me, and going back to what you said, you know, there's a lot of investment and that and leases, I mean, come
off someone who, what I was looking for my house we built. I had a lease after my first year, I had to renew it for a few months, there's no
paperwork they work, it's done. So we're gonna leases with no said, yeah all over renewal. That's that's it. So I can dig
so like they're there we're looking at putting in safeguards employee where we can take another step. To verify residency that is more
than just taken their work. So I mean we this this is a great district we. It's, we're very fortunate, our kids have gone through the schools are very fortunate. And again, I get white people would want their
kids to come to this district, but then that is why we have a tuition program. And so maybe we look at, you know, have we priced ourselves out? Are there
spaces? If there are people that want their kids to come here then there's a cost to it. There's a small part and pay our tuition and maybe you're looking
at. I All of us in this town probably live in a much smaller home than we would in a different town because we have prioritized, whatever it is about this town. That is
important to us. And if families want to live in a smaller rental to be part of this community, that's fine. It's the if someone's gonna give
the concern is that they're yeah. I'm saying is that there's a value to it and I get it. So between having tighter residency checks looking at our tuition program seeing if we have the
space, then it's there's a, there's something that's valuable and there's a cost to it and we need to define ways to pay for the yes of the education years and the reason this is uses an
example is it's much harder to prove residency when you leave. And when you of these, and not always, but yeah, I get it. I
live that. Yeah, three years ago so But yeah, and it is it is challenge of us. Yeah. But yeah, that's a great great
point. That's one of those one more thing to just I want to quick, shout out as a parent of a upcoming high schooler. I said to some of y'all I was beyond impressed with not just the
curriculum information night but the level of communication and just like as a former high school teacher to see all the teachers, Up there and giving information.
But not only that the level that the middle school students were having conversations like that first week, back from break, every day in classes. Like, I, I just was so impressed and it was like, even at this level were
like, You know, look at our curriculum, I know what's available, but the level that, you know, my son came home, like Mom, here's what I'm thinking. Here's what my teacher said to
me. Here's what. Here's what, all my friends are doing. Here's what we're doing. And the fact that back starts, right
away after that, like, it's just, I've never heard of that before, and it just shows that level of education. So I just want to give that shout out,
right? Thank you. All right.