>> HSD Broadcast: All right. Like to call the means of water. It's been accurate president distress here too stress supporters here. This hollering
work. Yeah, Mr. Knuckles, here Mr. Renner here Mississauga, here Vice President Hooker here President Crooked. Yeah, he stand for the pledge. My location.
The Northern Wisconsin. Okay, and let's stand for a moment of silence today, being September 11th. And then, Those
from several other. Thank you. Mike. Could you please read the statement from starting open public meetings public notice how this meeting for soon to the Oakland Public Meetings Act has
been given by the Superintendent of Schools in the following matter on January 8th, 2025 Notice of this meeting was posted on the anterior at the
school administration offices, 95, Grocery Haddonfield. Written notice was submitted and file the Haddonfield Borough clerk and this is her email to the Courier Post and the retrospect
newspaper. Thank you. All right, we're Go right into our east of Update from Honeywell. For everyone. How are you again? I'm Caroline Jackson from
Honeywell and I'm just going to go through update, similar to before. So get you on the phone with us. Right. So slide number one,
So, the lighting update is 100% complete anywhere that you didn't have LEDs before you now. Do that? Includes intern exterior. If you've been looking or being at the schools, I'm
sure you've seen it increase in the light. It's a a little brighter and Feel very happy that it's saving you energy. If you're on Atlantic Electric, you've been having higher bills. So you've
got this in just at the right time. So you will be having less energy usage. There are increases that come with the PJM increases but the lighting
is done and you're saving that energy. So that's really good. Then there's just a few pictures just to show you some of the different upgrades. Some are
retrograde, some are new pictures. And there's one more after that. Thank you, Mike. So the next measure is the one that we have the most work to
that's coming up over the next six months. that some echanical upgrades. This is a chiller haul at this school, new pumps and motors cooling tower replacement a new hvacu, cooling and gymbee, The bids are
due for this work. On October 9th we plan this because we wanted to make sure that nothing was just. No cooling was disrupted during the cooling months. Um, the gym B unit has been ordered ahead so
that once we have the contractor, we'll be able to schedule together for that, you know. Hold up with the order
would be there. So that's all in motion. Again, we plan to do this, children work scheduled after schooling season and that's really it on that. Once the mechanical contractor
is selected for that work, the final schedule will be put together. I'm building management. This is the measure that we are about 83%, complete. We're in this measure. We're updating your
building management system. You can't see that, but that's what turns things on and off and gives your facilities window to what's working or not working.
It helps makes keep things energy efficient. Part of that was a retro commissioning. That was completed in the summer. So
we're ready to go eating with everything working really well and in that we're placing old sound, pneumatic controls, and
we're should be finishing this up in mid October. If you go to the next, I kind of put some pictures in here. So you noticed anyone is familiar with
that. That's where you use an air compressor and it's airlines that open and close and control your temperature Over the years, you have been
replacing those with you direct digital controls. your left chronic. But there were some here and there so we live. We're going through and getting the
rest of them, so you can see any Magn. Haven't electronically. See. Control valve on the right. You go to the next slide. Just a couple more examples. Sometimes
you have like you need a new controller, you have a couple air handlers or a lot of points that's like in the little black box there again. You're not going to see this but this is
working behind, C is to make sure you have good quality, air things are turning. Not in the buildings, and they're the right temperature. And this will all
be on your building management system and able to be used and operate. Your Boolean manager, when you have good controls and controlling your equipment on
and off as you need it, you also see the equipment things aren't running 24/7. So it's all really good again, you can't see this but it's working for you behind
the scenes, next slide. On the building envelope. We have finished out the last timers here, that's again, sealing up
all the so you're only heating or cooling the air that you need in the building not losing anything right again. So good, that's all done. know, cost or
increasing. Next time. The mind heat and power. This will be bid along with the mechanical. The design is Actually. Completed on the
right side which is there. It's designing progress and that'll be done this fall with the other mechanical work. That's a green technology that takes less
expensive, gas makes electricity. That, that will electricity goes, and helps reduce electricity, you have to buy off the grid and
then that process makes heat that heat gets put into your system and supplements. The heat you're getting free heat for your hot water dress, hot water now here. and then the utility
rebates are in progress with dolly applications, might keep looking for those checks and then it doesn't get to go to you. It has to go to pay for the loan for this, but I'll go
right back into. It's just keep an eye out for that. I didn't get to hear. You know, I haven't heard anything about it but they'll be coming. The final lighting and building
envelope and all that is the final information will be what we submitted. And I think that's it. This is a schedule that might
get every week and Tim with where we are what the look ahead is. And I'm sure you shared those with you guys over the progress of for the project
Question. Yes, the answer to visit going after the management and projects and Honeywell is that playing cards? Nobody would matter.
Okay, so I have the same question because then who manages the process who makes sure that things are installed properly and everything, use the
way that it needs to do not so sorry. I didn't hear the first question. So who's managing the Honeywell's doing the things? Are you managing? Project
manager to make sure it's all installed properly everything. So so on the Honeywell project on the East Energy conservation measured. I'm describing we're
responsible for the end result. Land is helping us through the design because we want to make sure all the designs were coordinated and everyone's
there. So, you know, we kind of work in second, balance ourselves anything, Design. They're going to check as well, but we're responsible to the
district to make sure it's done. Thank. Proceed savings or it's too early. It's too early, we're probably
getting out of the season. Where our electricity bills are the highest. and a lot of these are less use of electricity versus Everything else. So it'll
probably be a while until we by the end of this probably end this school year. We'll start to see You'll see a difference in the
usage, right? Like there are some increases that are separate, so good away from the east of work, but we just replace Some floors
that we had to keep the ventilation on 24, so that's what I was going to add. That's what I confirmly recall. What we set our AC, they removed Those
four tenth year. Reset you fix this Heather said, Okay? Yeah, that's fine. So now there's there's units, are running 24/7 and it's gonna be hard, you
can't really compare the Straight. You can't say what was the cost this this September versus last, but you can look at the uses it, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to
hear, you know, in a a few months. I'd love to hear comparison a month, you know, Yeah, you might give you send us bills. We have like a list of what we did when we look at the project in the beginning, it's
from a couple years back but we can do it, quickly, usage, comparison, and it cost comparison. You can kind of show what the what the would
have been in the free time. Anything else? Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you so much. Okay, committee meetings. Next. We covered the most recent meeting
our next meeting while the year save ourselves an email. Let's stick with next Friday 9:19. Yeah, I wanted to make sure
Okay. Everyone, thank you. That's great. All right. For updates bus around, okay. He
loves it. This stuff from everything. Um, Matt policy. Briefly. Yeah, we had a meeting a few days ago and one Regulation 5410 is being tabled until October as gets.
Others need to completed, the second readings, There's no foot in discussion debate, those are going to be adopted tonight.
and then we reviewed about, I have those on the policies. None of which, I believe we're mandated. But just up for review and those really had minimal to
zero discussion today, appreciate for policies. One with. student teachers needing substitute teaching. Are we still learners that that will be
offer first reading in October or to removal of the requirement for associate. One of the one of the things that was up for review One of the barriers. To yours is that you
have to have your New Jersey according to our policy. You certific. Ation. I'm so excitation which a lot of student teachers don't
have and it prevents us from getting is there is it like an administrative thing that they don't have it? Are they eligible
because it's one. It's a cost. Yeah, and it's and if they could go to another district, where they don't have that, they're going to, Okay? Right. It was an option, you know, it's who's an optional aspect of our
policy whenever it was initially adopted. And I'm going to guess Actually adopted. 25 years ago,
that's pretty old policy. There may have been a time where a school district could flexibly use a student teacher to cover a classroom as a substitute. I think that was the intent behind
it. But as we discussed, even with that requirement, we never used our our student teachers that way. So just why we review policies. It's not relative now and it inhibited
some student teachers from coming to the district. So we're going to recommend to removal and we're gonna see that on for a first reading in October,
Like, that was really pushed probably around that time to get it, like, from like from a teacher perspective like as a right, I'm a member they retire like you to get it but I feel
like they Not as you know, when you're in school to be a teacher that needing it. So it makes sense to fit it more in with what's applicable now especially
if it's never used that. Way. Yeah. and the students have it, but most don't a Lot of worry, I do like tutoring where you don't need it and it
is more expensive than it used to be. And more confusing because I've been trying to help my student teachers. Some of us had it, it's more confusing than it
should be. I think, anyway. All right, thanks Matt. Did you have anything else? Although that conversation reminds me. I need
to lend us just a little bit. There's one life. and those reasons, Um, Linda Lrfp. Yeah, we had a meeting this week. There are
professionals will be here at the the next meeting. Not this Thursday and they'll give us an update, but things are going well. We had a pickup with the
elevator. was a keyed service elevator and they just need to make an adjustment because that that just doesn't Work for how we're going to use the elevator. Um,
the 1890s building is something that we are absolutely keeping our eye on. We just need to make sure. I mean it's it's further
out there but that's critical to our extended day kindergarten program. Going to stay on schedule. We had you guys went to the HBC
meeting last night and things are going well enough. Yes, but we went last night to see. I've helped it was called a certificate appropriateness for
the work being done done on Hopkins. Parcel, and for these windows and we came away with
no approvals, but we got some Marshmallows, go back and get this for us so we can understand better. So we're comfortable now with the windows, we're good with that, if we're going to be
able to place any kind a couple of method is more research on materials. For smaller Copeland, we'll replace with fiberglass material four years ago. we're planning doing the same for the for the
main one. They want to see right That's gonna look like what is the current one plaster? would have me as much difference in?
small to Materials, just to leave here. You said the windows seemed like They're gonna be, that's right, that's good. And then on the Hopkins, parcel. They gave us
some feedback on the new gym, what they think that some feedback on that, but they're real challenge. There is restore industry, historical building.
So we've got a lot of homework on what would heroes we're going to use and find pieces of glass to recreate it. So there's gonna be five in that but what we got receipt
permission to march forward without approval. So we can Do more research, we can't. Yeah, we couldn't do too much until they said, Yeah. we think we're
good chance. So well, I think Mike and I'll be back at the HPC meetings every month for the next and it was late, right? That's not about 10:30 as well. Wow.
Maybe you'll get bumped up the agenda, you know they can't go. We were we were done, right? but overall things, Around
schedule. And And any questions for Linda? All right, any PTA updates. At Tatum, they've been enjoying the new bike rack service halls
or tatum callers and I saw them being used. To believe with all the kids biking to school and their anxiously linked as good
rocks, they should be being installed sometimes soon. There's a couple family-friendly welcoming activities coming up. There's a kindergarten first grade
playground meetup, that happens yearly and outdo illuminates coming up. So people can check social media. I had a hadn't feel foundation
meeting this Monday. Just a reminder that I Foundation. So those grants for how to build organizations, organizations nonprofits. So, if you have an organization where you are,
serving, people have had a building nonprofit there, right on the head and feel Foundations website is their grant, they funded a grant for the baseball team for a new sound system this
year. So they're, they're really great organization to to go to spread the word because they have funds and it's, you know, about getting people to know about them so
that they can request grant money. So how to build foundation been around. A very long time, we're going to be at
the fall fair as the head and fulfoundation and also as the board, we're going to be at the football fair. We're glad to see that that's back.
and I think Jess and and Machine are going to be able to help me with that if anyone else wants to jump in, you're more than welcome and there's some people
are babies. But but yeah, so well and we'll touch base, maybe the three of us will just talk about, just what make sure we have an idea of what we want on
the table and I send it. It's nothing urgent but I didn't want it to buy and have it the night before. You'd be like, Wait, what are we gonna do? So I sent
the email but it's it's not urgent logistics. um, Moving on, Dr. Priolo It's just a announce we've been
reflecting on ways we can enhance the recognition of our educators of the year. And two new things. We one thing we've done, one thing we're
planting on doing this year, one, we recognize all of our educators of the year at the district opening faculty meeting. I think it was well received as
a nice way to recognize our educators of the year in front of all of their peers. You know, all 200, something teachers that we have.
and we've also made arrangements with Mr. Banos to have the educators of the year and their families recognize at one of our football games in October. I think we're game is the Thursday night game
and actually I can't believe that might be your It was our example, here's idea for last year, so even though we didn't act on it quickly last year, it kept in and it it fit in and so most of
them Rsvped already that they'll be there. So I'll be literally to that board. There's a board meeting that nice. I'll be a little late. I'll do the
presentation for the game but it's a great way. We think to show the appreciation. That's out the Gino who's in line for women's late night talk show because he, he honored the
education year did a kind of sit down question and answer format with them, and one of a really well is excellent. It was great. So, coming up, Bryan. Watch it.
Can we posted for 7:30? We go. We building. 750 as you. can be there and you know clock them out. Yeah. Oh sign. I like
look at I Okay, all right. Oh, anything else? That is it? Okay. Um, But we're flying. I know
what we're coming up to our talkers will be a little bit.
All right. So Superintendent reports a few things. Are you leading into our discussion? I'm, no. I'm gonna do just a couple things, man.
We're gonna go for you and learn about this guy. So, first of all, Jeff Holman today, we're not today on Well, I think it's Tuesday, Monday,
Tuesday. I got his 2500 win. And so his today was his first home match since then. So we want over there to see it was great. I remember when I first
started coaching here, I was back to the routine more, that's strong. I think Jeff is just fine. And I coach for a hundred more years
up. but it was a nice, a lot of his former athletes were out there. It's amazing thing 25. I think I believe he's the winningest high school coaching. Anything
Exciting. They kindergarten right. It's been a long time coming but each abilities has an extended kindergarten going through. It's really good stuff. I was in
one of the rooms at Tatum and they were doing some structure play which is when we talked about why it's important, it was one of the things you're doing and I was with Mrs. Woods. And one of the kids is looking at
dominos, a three to two in the count of five job. Five years old. So we're making this connections are very natural ways to learn and grow so we're
really happy that there sat in Canada all one time but we know we're moving right direction. So that that's exciting thing. Just so, you know, we have in third grade. Right now, we have
228 students, we are three buildings and 75, 25, a class. So our technical cap is 228 the superintendent has the authority to go beyond that cap. Um, so each school has one section of
26. Luckily, as you happen to be in all schools, so worked out out that way nicely. To challenge. The reason why we don't create new section,
there's a lot of challenges, um, space We simply don't have space for it. Um, schedule. So if we created a section, we wouldn't
have enough to cover special so it wouldn't just be hiring. the classroom teacher may be made, we have to hire additional PE all those all parts, all those
teams would have to have additional staffing so it becomes very challenging. Um better also the it's a quirky thing but If you put it at
Central, okay, from how to get them, have to go there to get those down into my life and now Central has four sections at 20 in the other schools are max
out. So it becomes challenging especially since Central has no space. And right now. Central is nine students, over capacity?
So there are the schools, hit the heart. So Central has eight students right now at Haddon, plus their 26th student. So it becomes complicated complicated that
way, the schedules I said is challenging plus next year, they go to 27 in a section, it would be dissolved this year. So you section just to dissolve it.
the year and that comes into play, then you're talking a hundred twenty five to minimum in additional salary between teachers, you know, they said, it's not just one teacher,
you've got a higher, an audition specialist here and there. So at this time you know the the corner policy, I have the progress who pretended to to
override that You know, so that that's where we are with that. But I think everyone should be aware of that. That's something. We've been watching for a while. It's been something. We've got
lucky because we're going to the 26 minutes, almost left and we've had that rotation in and out. But this is a time where but I think September 1st, we
had 220. That's right, thank you. These words really these real always Um, so that's that's something we should all
be aware of because that's that's there. Um, Place it had feels speaking of space. So by the way, this is I took this picture to place it
Haddonfield. Low Income Units. There's three one, bedroom. Two attend, two bedrooms and six three bedrooms. That's Completed.
They have temporary CEOs lining up. So they're doing the lottery now and processing people. But they expect residents be moving
in midnight, September. So they they're moving in mentally September yet. They don't know who's moving, right in. I have not gotten clarity. That was the last time I have
gotten clarity on it, that was it, I'm working the barrel because you didn't just get this. So maybe this is, this is probably so The barrel. Doesn't
this is nothing better doing this, isn't it right? So there were, they are also waiting invaded rep. They are working with me to try to get it if
they All those. Families. Third graders. Then what point do we start evaluating because I
agree with you. 27. Your follow. Ing you and we gotta go another section. We got to figure out, that's what we do. I think, I
would think I need to say this now. I shouldn't say this out loud because I haven't gone through until you say answer the question but you've got to
figure. You can go to 26 in each section and then I think that's when you start really having a hard section when you get to, when you start getting to 27th
In the sections. We are saying Okay, we have to really think about this daily because again we can hold another six right now, we've got 26 minutes, I just taught my
head like considering that the fourth grade goes to 27 then we're just so that we're thinking about this one. Here's the thing. I do think that this
is a weight until it happens and decide only because I know that it's not like Chuck would be like, all right now, you know so many different things in his head
that, you know, I'll do this, I'll do this. So I think that we can all feel confident that there are contingencies plans employees, and you just choose the one
that is going to be the best for that current if And there's restrictions on capacities in these places, right? So there's, there's
those in place. I mean. My chuck's logic I shouldn't say logically. I sometimes a lot of difficult, you the three bedrooms will have a kid. Right? And some of the two
bedrooms, I have a kid. I don't see this bringing 25 kits, right? That's the whole thing. You can, you can, You awful eyes a situation. Say, Oh, if every bedroom has it,
that's 10 bedrooms and there's another 12 to 22 kids. Yeah, I guess you could say that. I don't think that's the reality
is going to be. A half a dozen, kids, maybe a few more, and it's a lottery. So it's it's a lot of the other grades are fine.
It's just Have their graders. Then we're in. We're gonna, yeah. that they are welcome, right that they feel well yeah and
then I think that's why I I like as much lead time as possible so we can prepare but but either way, we will have the most respons
Is. October 15th. Is that a funding set up? Yes, because if they move on October 16th, they don't count for a year and plus
almost two years later, a peeler petition process to be like, Hey, we know we're gonna get these students, It's a hard one over 15. So the October 50. So so we want them actually
start anything and register as soon as all right. Yeah, I spoke with the commissioners, they're trying to push that.
um, So the first day of school, there were some, there's some pickups we work with the borough, we met. New traffic
pattern. We're gonna continue. Evaluate it further. Actually, take you. So um that are about drop off sense. So here's here's the issue on the left is the
old pattern. You see me. You left the high school some of the kids split and went across kings and someone across Sullivan Lake Now everyone gets
falling across Southern leg then across. Kings. and, and so, It's a new pattern. We're gonna get used to, we think, but we
met with the barrel, like we were talking about what solutions we have, right? And if we can't, and they also think is the way that the Sylvan Lake bottlenecks
makes it more challenging. And you notice on the, on the left, the crosswalk was almost at the end. On the right. The crosswalk is back further. So,
it's kind of cars are pulling up further. There's actually stopping in the crossbow. So we're talking the barrel if we need to continue to evaluate, we think it once we get used to it.
will solve a lot of these problems, but if need be will make a note left hand that will the boroughs will talk about making, you know, that's the internal sylvan. Doing drop
off and pick up time. Those things just that they have one like growth on growth going to the Tatum. So there's possible solutions. But we also, you know, we met with a barrel about
this and they don't think we can solve this problem with Knowledge. And to accept the things, you know, it was also the first day was Officer Ernie was in the scene in the parking lot because they
believe there's gonna be another officer there. So he's monitoring to pop parking lot traffic. so we didn't have the officer out there. We now we have the office out there so we
had that first day challenge and we're getting used to its really continue evaluate and work with the car, right? We need to make changes. We'll try to you You
know, one of the things I'm looking at it there too. There's a very little lead time from Roberts and so many people are coming off Roberts. But before you
hit the crosswalk, right? Correct. And then one concern that I have and I even a German past it, I'm like, Am I? This is the problem but it seems like a problem today. I'm not sure
what the cross loss sign that little crosswalk guy. That's right. I don't know if that's intended for people who are jaywalking
crossing the street or if it's because it used to be where the crosswalk used to be. but I find it really confusing because with the change, some, I will, my eyes are drawn to that
sign. And then it was like, at first, what I was going through my eyes were drawn to the side. I'm like, Oh the crosswalk is here. so I feel like maybe
moving that crosswalk side into the actual last year we'll make more sense. Also it will cue people that it's okay to cross because but I was a true again, I'm not
sure. Crossword Pad does have flashing lights And so that's that. So we can talk about that we're gonna but So we're going to continue evaluate. we make
sure now, That one of the building administrators is all. So out there, we're going the crossing guard at. We're working through this. We know this is important stuff.
The safety. So trying to make sure we get it solved as soon as possible. Um, and we now have different parking situation at the high school. So Low worth all is being turned
over at the closest tomorrow. So, both entrances to the host that that sandlot or all property. So officer already for school story, it went out and
blocked it off. Tim and Rick made a long new driveway into there. and they did it like in a day that we called him out of, like, we can take care of this. Say, what? Got a quicker from
the borrow and they pulled them in there and did that. And now one of the challenges Safe driving there, right? This is
now a dirt road and so we try to have someone out there stations as well. So we have those signs there, we're talking about speed bumps there, maybe something that effects and we're still trying to work that safety out. But um, in
officer stands out there, um this is Mikel Kohl's home own people and tells on them driving safe and you know if we need to be will looking forward to privileges for there, trying to work those things out. So,
these are all Things are hitting at the same time. One of the things we're looking at or talk about now, is eventually,
there's gonna be a curb cut on the King's Highway. Um, if we move that up as part of this project sooner, we can eliminate that long rows. So there's no longer racing through the
parking lot, they can come up the curve credit, but that's something we have to look at Coming up because frankly, when they start building the turf
field in this rank that entrance is wrong. Yeah. So there's a lot more seniors have parking privileges or anything you
I don't even know if it's considered properly. Yeah, it's just not exactly and privilege, I'm sure. Just remember, is like we Are sorry.
So and some kids are not working on the, we're cool used to be, right? A lot there. So expanding it out. I don't know. I couldn't get your number. I
know that there are more drivers and spaces. Yes, or correct. and you're talking about, Adding Driver. How do you drive or dead? Right, that's right
happens. You have your driver day? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, we've never needed that
before we were gonna have new parking. I think that we just deal with the transitional. phase while. I mean, when we have the new parking, maybe
that's a time to consider whether or not you do. Laundry pass for seniors or something and then go to whatever juniors
are available. Well there won't there's only Yeah. but I think that would cut down on some of the unsafe driving behavior is, you know, you're
parking on the street or you're parking in the lot if you have a pass. Okay, you should. Use to
worry about. So, That's wonderful. All right. Thank you. Um, my report is just a
lot fall festival, which we talked a little bit about already. Um also in terms of one of our goals is to become more active in legislation and
advocating for fair funding formulas. Jessica Man has been kind enough to invite Some of us to a meeting with women, Lou Greenwald. So we have our he reps are going to be
able to go, Mr. Klaus and I are going, and it'll give us an opportunity to present our our
Issues and concerns, Right? Also, this Saturday I have a meeting with the Legislative Committee in West Windsor, which I've never been. So really
really But so, so and there it is supposed to be specifically for the New Jersey School boards to talk about, how, how we advocate for fair funding and what it, what
legislative issues are facing schools right now and funding is is a big one and that'll be so I hope to have something good from that and that's terrific. I was poking around on the Njspa
conference site and there's also a couple of interesting sessions that sound very relevant. It might be exactly the same thing that you're
doing that. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. And I imagine that these people who are going to be at this meeting, we're having Cody, I think, would you ever? I
can't remember his last name, but Cody was one of the legislative reps that we had when we went to the church to had a township.
discussion on fair funding formula. And I believe he's a legislative rep. That's going to be there, this Saturday, and I wouldn't be surprised if njs VA is going to presents something
on school. Funny formulas during the attention. Yeah. Okay. All right. So now we'll move on to the discussion of the
committee of a whole one, the 2627 academic calendar. I'm actually going to stand up. To talk a little bit, my piece. Um, so I'm going to present some options of the 20-20 above us
from the challenges and then Will be a community hall. I didn't try to keep 30 minutes roughly so I finally quick and go over this. But ultimately,
you can say to me at the end of this chuck, go back and redo this and figure out a different way and consider this. So that this is the first shot at this and there's some challenges this
and this that we haven't seen in the past. We have seen the past and have been looked at differently. Um, so if we do what we always do, this is up this over. Our counter would
look like next year coming in. the 31st of all staffing service, we start reactive right after Labor Day, the challenge here, is that with where the
counter falls school will be ending. For high school June. 23rd, that for graduation would be in June 24th. Is the end of elementary school which is pretty late. Um,
It also crunches construction next summer down, right? So one of the factors in this is we have construction, If we didn't have construction in 2009, 10,
We start a school on September second. For later, that's an option. But I think right now, it's not an option. Now, the board wants to say, go back and rethink that I can come back as a cover second,
calendar, next month, or next, two weeks now to talk that through like I could do this as many times once was Go through. Um, we were Labor Day, starts,
second we had over the 2009 10 prior Labor Day, not ideals, you know, water construction window. We've got the quickly, they closing and The answer is that we want to
avoid the late closing or do we want to alter the traditional calendar, we follow and move to an earlier closing to avoid a late closing and increase construction opportunities in
the summer 2027. um, These are, these are, these are the difference. That's what you would look like. if we were to go early. So, and the other part of this is we
need to cut four days. Like cutting three days or cutting one day it doesn't help. It's they're still in that next week, right? We're still really want to clear. We want to clear
down to this down to the I put l-d. Geez, graduation LDS the last day for everyone. So what would be the 17th would be where we want to party, I guess we
could take two days old and they graduation 21st, lasted, 20 Second. I don't know, that's worth changing the calendar. And what we do, I think if we're
gonna change it, we want to change it before they come. um, Use Nutritional Formula to answer 24th, you need to compress it. So what
ultimately, what we need to do is get 13 days of school and you to get to where we want to be and the places we look at, it is short and breaks, professional
development days, the snow day. Now what I've done and none of these is as you know, We have 181 student days. Which gives
us one snow day. So if we have a snow day, the students have to make up one day. Um, we've started to practice, so it hasn't happened yet. In reality
if we don't just snow day or what kind of weather day or whatever emergency closing day, The Tuesday after Memorial Day, kids would be off, we haven't
had that opportunity since we made that change, but if we were to say, take that, We're gonna roll the dice and hope there's no snow or inclement, weather or
anything, we could do that and that's what we have to move three days now. Um, problem is if we do that And we get hit. Now we're adding to the end of
the year a lot rather, because it breaks it because you're a role of ice a little bit. I know that there are New Jersey I don't know if they're guidance
or if they're what rules or policies. But let's say if we gambled, we said We're not gonna put a snow day, right? We also don't want to extend our school year, because we need
Construction. would we be able to say for this year, if we have a snow day, we will just automatically go virtual. No, you cannot go virtual till today for three days, right? If
you know, if you have um if you're the school, you know you have an emergency with your furnace, you know you're close for four days they'll let you
start counting there but you can't go into the third day. We have had a situation before I was high school principal where we did have this problem where
we we had students on snow days back up for real, you were to keep graduation where was. We had seniors coming on Saturday. and come to school Saturdays, to make sure we got our days in before graduation the seniors.
Because moving graduation is tough because people are traveling. So that's ultimately one of the things we look at there was a good Saturday, by the way, I wasn't traditional
school. People gave seminars and stuff. They enjoyed it was um This proves actually have fun. Um, So, I'm gonna give you.
There's forcing, I'm gonna stare for scenarios first scenario. Is we just stick where we are. Obviously, June 24th, not ideal
but hey, you can do it. Other side of that is, if we get out on the 17th. Labor Day. The next year is the seventh or the sixth that gets a longer summer for a decade.
Some really long summer construction too, right? So these construction products are big so ideally we get out there. So number one is we stay where
we are say, it's gonna be June 24th that kind of stakes, but that's, that's what, that's how we're enroll. So I'm going to
give you three other models. Um, And I'll talk about pluses and minuses, and then Once I go over them quickly, then you guys say, jump back it out when I want to talk about that. We jump to this one. I want to talk
too much me talking with you guys discuss. So if we move, if you've ever PD days, The beginning of the year. So the
31st through the third become PD days, new teacher, orientation goes a 24 to 26. That and we shortened spring break to the week before, before
Eastern concludes Good Friday. That gets us our four days, right? Um so that works maintains some spring break new teacher. So, We're gonna have
destruction going on. Now, we are also getting into we're now Moving new teacher, orientation into contracts construction, time into negative. I also.
Question, how effective we can be four days of professional development, prior students coming in. That becomes challenging making those
meaningful and I'm going to you. I'm trying to say neutral but you're gonna hear. I feel this. Years ago. we didn't spend a lot of money on building
maintenance and we ended up having buildings how to be really done. We cut our PD
funds. dramatically because we had to, as a budget PD is our Structure, for for our teachers instruction and these days are really, really valuable they're
not be taking lightly, remove those to the front. It's going to be important to be able to guarantee that to really meaningful days which can be challenging because the teachers
are the first day, They're ready to go with students, right? It's not same mindset of mid year. So there is some questions about about the effect of the PD that point in time. So
I just wanted to point out as we go through the other side, too will be in school during election day, which is a challenge for Liz, he hadn't. Um, it's a presidential
elections, was not as big as before that you won't get as many voters out. But still have kids people coming to school through election. Um this one is the one where people are
going to throw bottles at. I mean, I appreciate that. I accept it. Um, you you move spring break to the day before the I'll use the
Holiday Good Friday. um, Was that? They didn't put it there but I meant to do it. Yeah, no,
that's okay. you know, I actually Yeah. I was talking to people. I say I keep Saying,
Put that dash but it would be a half day holders. Yes. Um, And so that really cut. That's that's where I get our four days these days there um retain some of the retains into November
rake. effective use of PD days because I believe minimal spring break. It also makes me the this model Next one more thing to
come free talks. I and the other channel is there is makeup stays days for snow if we get two snow days now, we're probably not that that March rate. Doesn't doesn't give us a
lot of people. You know, we probably could only go. We have been in school since I worked here on Good Friday. what we
try to would contractually are it's actually means custodians, don't have to come to work. So that's challenging there too. So three snow days. The third
one. Just go back to that last one. Yeah. So what is the date of Good Friday for this? The 26th of March 20? So this would be 26. And okay, so we would
typically then have been off the 26, all through that next week, correct. That's that's the that's that's what we've done, that we've done the day off and we after
Easter falls, um, the next one We have. Removed the February PD day, which would have been February 12th. At the beginning
of the year. and we reduce spring break to Holy Thursday, Good Friday in Easter Monday. I shouldn't be there. That's the ways like that at five those
days. Yeah, I'm actually and I'm sitting here wondering. I know that very often. Other holidays, other religious holidays, not likely and yeah, I don't know. And that
Passover. Yeah, email someone, that's a perms March 20 seconds. Holly is March 22nd. Yeah. So Parham and Holly are holier the same base.
March, 27 March 22nd. Is that going when I know? That's so for it's the week before. But it's before when we're talking about
these shorter breaks, right? Um, I there's other ways, there's other but none of them get the four days. like you could be any combination. So I mean we could go back and
there's your towers that we try to do with June 13, the 13th, the number to hit, we can go back and try things. This is hunt for the board to talk about. You want to do if you
want to say Chuck go back and briefly think this that's will come back into different model. But ultimately our goal today is to hear, you know, talk through, um, options
and and think about what we want to do, get some feedback from the community. If we talk about it, obviously, um, Just to let
you know this is 27 28. And it's the Labor Day is the sixth, and if we want to nutritional calendar, we'd be getting out
the 21st. So you know, this could be We should think this might be a two-year cycle for this and so part of what we could do now, is you, As we
finish this conversation, you could also say Chuck go out and figure out next 26 272 because we probably should do those in concert Do 26 27. 27 28 in concert probably do those together.
Sorry package of all the correct and the construction there, right? Was like this June date is really constrained by the New Jersey observation of Juneteenth which was enacted
before there was a federal observation. Correct. Is there any discussion in Trenton about having those aligned? No. But even if they did, even if they did it on
this, on this calendar year, June 18th would be Saturday the 19th so far. Friday anyway, right? So that so there will be
there are times looking at 2728. Be Monday, right? So there's our time will be different, right? But on this one and we've always thought we've always taken In New Jersey, state
model for because we're New Jersey State, right? Plus it always makes, it's a little bit easier to jumping around. Because when it jumps to a Monday, now you might have to becomes a little bit easier. We
know the targets the third, the third Friday in June. So that's one refused something we have to use that we can go with the Federal. But that's not just
trying to get us a day or two. No, I appreciate it. Is there is the idea of abbreviating, the November break? Fall break on the table.
Also, that's this. That's this one option. One remove those days to September. Thank you. that model. You would not have any PD time until February,
correct? Okay. Wouldn't have any, you know you, I'm saying, after you see students, you don't have any food you. I wanted enough time that's I know that those options and I know I
spoke quickly because I always do. Um, But there's there's a thousand different combinations you can do. I've looked at three that I thought were good.
Junkies jump starting places and we can I can go back and modify that this is where the board says that I November PBS and all or nothing, right? As opposed
to just, I think it's on Monday. and I think it's, yeah, I think it's, I think, a two day week and especially since a two day week with Election day being
means you A lot about Cityism that day. But are there any conflicts with the teachers contracts? If we moved it up earlier on August for today? Some contracts not
deep start. We don't we don't have a starting date for the year which has a July um, I mean
you know, and I had gotten some emails too about about particular issues, which some of these these this is an addressing, right? Like I think this is not addressing our
whole new philosophy or the calendar. This is more addressing. what the calendar is going to look like for construction. Correct. This is a temporary. Exactly, because
where we have this constraints of construction. I feel like we now we can't experiment with having it pre Labor Day, which is the thought for the AP or RP exams because I think that's gonna come into
construction What? But here's a If the board says let's I should have. I should have put the 2010 calendar year where the students
if I go back and so in 2010, The students would have come back. We're here of in the first second and third. And then they get three days out there that
would basically solve a lot of problems. Right? Um, and then you could just change your spring break to but we concluding inclusive of Good
Friday and there's your four day and that's done. Um, and if we want to say the land, hey, this is for us, the best academic use of our time is this calendar. You guys
figure out construction around that. Yeah, we're trying to maximize the summer for our architect and our constructing people construction people. But
that's It doesn't have to be that, right? We can go back and say we need that week. that week's really important to us. I understand but I don't know that
we have like my concern is, we know there are construction and these are some pretty great projects. But what I was trying to say is that I don't know,
that's the best bet because I do want more of the time. What? I don't want is things rushing and things and that's not being ready to go. We rush it. But there's also the
discussion is that that November break breaks up instruction early on at a time when students are starting to get to the groove. Yeah, so Because this isn't a permanent fix, this is temporary. It might
be I'm tempted to say like, Let's see, how would that grows and the test staff. See how much weight now we get but but maybe
that's an opportunity for us to see like doesn't impact Student progress and performance. Because if they don't have that full week break in November, like what really
what impact does it have, especially for you, the holy break plus Thanksgiving, plus living in structurally. I'm curious I'm curious to know if academically that we would get
data from doing that and so if nothing else that would be a one-off people or to you, two years, but I would be curious that we can make data-driven decisions. Going forward about
real changes to the calendar. If it makes a difference, maybe it does. But if we need to make up, if we need to experiment with the calendar, for two days, two years to try to cut down
the days. I would I think it'd be interesting to try some of the things for thinking about, so that we can really look at the data and see and be delivered about it. Like, let's
see, you know, we can test, you know, we do the LinkedIn. What are the linked it? What is the LinkedIn data saying at this stage in one year versus the other when we
didn't have so much time left That's his mind. There's also the question of if we have instructional days in March and April yes, those are intense months but those are also the two months prior to AP exams.
For those kids that are taking that well end state testing. so it might It might be beneficial. I just think looking at it, like it looks absurd. When we look at our school day,
tallies that, we are in school for 13 days in That seems like a joke. And I love, I love the November breaks, do not get me wrong, but
like that, the point here is to educate students. And can we really educate students? When they're in school for 13 out of? Yeah, 30 days and the run up to I think that there's, I think
we need to let go. Of, We always do it this way. I think the board needs to. I think that faculty needs to and I think
the community needs to, this is the way it's always been done. I think the worst thing is going late in in June. Yeah, I'm sorry. There's just not a lot of instructional. Anything going on when you go to
June 24th, whereas if you're in November, it's that's just I don't, whether you have the dad or not, there's nobody, that's
gonna tell me that instructional time during November isn't far more valuable than June 20th. So I think going late is, is not a good thing at all and you
know, the calendar. I don't think we can hold on to Labor Day. I want to be at the beach until Labor Day. You know what I want to be at the beach too.
it when Labor Day is on on September 7th, then it It's time to be back in school. We've got kids who are needing to get ready for college. We have kids that need to have
instruction for AP and and a lot of their counterpoints in the South are going back in the end of August. So they so they're
going back, they're going back a lot of places like so one of the gym when I talked about countries a few years ago Texas is back in school. August 7th.
I was first and they're taking the AP the same day as our kids, right? So that's that's be sorry. I mean if I can come back with a model I can tell you right now, the model big, you
come back and the kids are in It's dark blue first. Second, third teachers, come into 31st. Kids are in first second, third. And then you Go with that. Mark Spring break right
there, there's your four days. and, and we lose a week in the summer of the construction piece but that that keeps that's a
way to keep our calendar whole as we know it. um, And, and cut those days. And that's, that's a really easy way to do it. That's the way. If it
wasn't for construction, I would that would my soul recommendation Like this is how we should be doing this right now. actually, because it just so happens those week, those those
years have really late Labor Day, correct? Especially, right. That's a that's accounted, we've done before we've done before. Yeah. Um,
I'm gonna I I I have some concerns about four professionals help me before students get yours. It's there's a the kid the teachers are focused on kids coming into the building.
It's a little bit hard to get good solid PD work there. I mean I I mean I we have great professionals, they do it. But we're also on a stricter budget
for Which means this could be more in-house, professional development. So we're having teachers to prepare over the summer for Professor though, as opposed to doing it. So there's
a lot of challenges there with that as well. Um, I mean if you ask me, if I have my idea, I come in I'd have school start on the on the first do three days there. Go, 40 weekend. So you're
saying that they have them coming early and then keep November as it is. How the students come in on. There's an arrow here. Oh, to keep their
team instructional days of November. He get that way on the calendar. Really is Disturbed. And I might question is that the
PD would remain in November, correct? If you're coming, even November, break, and peace. Three days of PD in November as is, which would be November. Second, third, and fourth,
correct. I, I kept I started this model with. coming have kids coming in after or after after Labor Day. Yeah. That doesn't have to be that light it back, right? We've done
it. The way before. If we want to keep Them a longer spring break. and we want to, Not put
all 3D before the school year starts. We could have the kids come in the first second. Third keep the November great guys.
It is and go with this. this, it's march on through Rick and that gets our four days, a spring break, just a five days.
Remember, five. You know, my administrators. I don't think it makes sense. I'm 22 days in October and 13 and November the admissions waiting on us and
said, Here's lots you think I have On the one that they send the like this one is this this tend to the shortest spring break with the February move like that I do the offering
other suggestions other than what we're seeing right now for these three options, just just take a look at these. Take a look at these and and what you
think what was your opinion? Sorry. what was their opinion regarding that PD happening? Prior to the school year? Starting, I don't think with you that Hey, this is that's sort of a tough road. So also I
kind of bed with that. So maybe I was unfair, but I have administration here. They want Jerry, go ahead. Good. Jeremy did we did feel like four days
was lot to have prior to school, because, you know, when you want to make adjustments to your curriculum, what do you want to look at and analyze
right student data? right playing interventions playing enrichment? that's all very, that's all not possible to do
prior to School starters. It's one very busy day to get ready for the year. Yeah, we're school starts but I think if I had a choice between having, you know, one
day before school starts or four, I would still choose one camera, is there a reason why we have to do it together? Can't we split it a little bit. Um,
can't you do too? And then do do your two another place. I'm just going to go and I just want to go and record saying that. I think it's a bad idea to start before Labor Day
with the construction because we know full well, it is less expensive when we can work within their time they. So now we're asking that we're giving them a week
less on construction which is going to affect the amount because they're going to set the amount is that we get from projects and there's a really good chance. They're not going
to finish in time and we're gonna I'm gonna be at this table. you know? Just kidding. Yeah. But I think Good chance.
Like I think that we have to like as much as we want to say. Oh we're gonna have tell them what that that we want to do this. I think they're gonna, I
think that when it comes down to it, we know full. Well, we don't have as much control over the construction, my projects, we're talking about next summer
videos. We're putting second stories. Yeah, actually, I want to maximize that I need to sleep, right? And one of the other side of this too, I mean I don't think anyone here wants to
come back on the 20th to the 24th regardless, but the other side of the two is the 27 calendar 2018, Labor Day is the sixth which is also related if we can get out on the
17th, that gives it an extra long summer that next summer too, which means we may be able to launch full day kindergarten for everyone that next year,
that accelerates that piece. So I I mean we're featuring all options. That's why. Yeah, and I just wanted to make sure that that's like I think it's not ideal but I feel like this construction
And I agree that. I mean, that the thing that I wanted to get out there is I don't think that we have to hold on to, we never go back before Labor Day, when Labor
Day he was on that. No, yeah, we've done it before. Yeah. So so I I can I can go along with that so that I think that we need to be flexible. I personally think that the the late June is
a for me is a no-go. Yeah, it's just so I think that we need to there's got to be compromised. and if it is that the compromise is with with PD days and they're
not all, you know, kind of group together. And we have to take a little bit away from spring break and I think it's
important too that Um, we're not deciding anything tonight. Yeah, this is this is discussion. We get feedback. You say Chuck. Go give me three
more models that do. Here's what we value through miles up. We'll come back to you conversation. We'll also get feedback from
the community. Yeah, yeah. November I think what I would love to see is a model that starts before Labor Day, maybe just a few days gets rid of the
November break. Spreads the PD around, maybe it's in October. Wherever we have, the biggest like trend, even our instructional days a little bit more throughout the
year moving Moving the PD days. I have November in the other month, doesn't change our and right got to come before and that's a short story moving like
we have 16 Instructional days in November, right? Instead of moving PD to September move school earlier. And but he was a construction issue. But is there any, I think that might
be a solution for post-construction. I agree. Yeah, I'm wondering though, is there any way to like Shorten
November. And so we know we have the end of the week, Thursday, Friday, or the state days, right? Like What if you only did Wednesday as local PD Day and would it be possible? Just to throw it out there to like
add some of the PV days around when we may be would have had spring break? That like so if we were to, you know, I mean, take that one or what would that be two days
there. Yeah and there's that's a bigger left on our staff though. I think right? And not not saying it should be on or off the table but that I would be
the concern. I think to just, I mean, I am very much. So you're saying you're pushing you're saying November. Only keep the
Wednesday. So Wednesday, so November for just one PDA in November. Yeah. And so we would in Monday Tuesday would be would go where oh, there's Then very
good days regular school days, Monday, Tuesday, so that gives us two days, right? But then, you stop to find two more PD days, correct? So, then what if
you took that? So then what were you looking after spring break here? The march it march, it would be the The. 25th, right? Like
Thursday, Friday or just Friday Monday? like could you potentially let's say have the PD days be Thursday, Friday. I
think you have to move days out of the current calendar, one way or the other, right? Yeah. So if we just move them from
really, I need Yeah, right down. Like I need like big. Like house. I don't think. It's
as you're taking feedback back and trying to think about new models. My biggest concern is sort of streamlining, the number
of instructional days that we don't have a November. That's basically a wash a December, that's half qualities. Like let's I don't know. People can throw
it. Investors are PD days. Is a matter where they're bunched together or spread out, does
that does that matter where the other from a PD standpoint? Because you, It, which is probably rare, probably rare. We
used to have the PE clustered in February. Yeah. And the decision was that's too late in the year because you can't really apply anything they moved into November. Well that's why I was curious about that. That's what
my controls about. Moving to March, right? That gets kind of late. Correct. Yeah, repeat standpoint. Maybe when are you going to
implement what? Right. He's got. Okay, Yeah. Yeah. Friday. Yeah, and it's fun. It's like the The challenge right? Is that we want the PD early so that
you can implement it. And yet we want the instruction early, so that the students are benefit from it. So it's it's with the PD. Also was contingent most of these conditions on what
you've learned. Like what you've learned in Tennessee? Yeah. Right. So that helps inform some of the things we do there. Um, but it's 22 day, October, and a
13 day November, which makes more sense as a 16-day November any. 19-day October. We could always give off a day after Halloween. We're talking.
No, remember to brilliant, not taking the end of the year old. but then that, but with that though, when you look at the counter on some of those days
Halloween, the next couple years is like a Friday Saturday Sunday. So then that one PD day would be Monday. Anyway, election day and one day then and Jay he
mentioned. So it's like It doesn't necessarily work right now. I mean, we're hitting them awkward calendar too. Yeah, we
had the same challenge two years ago. This would be much easier conversation you. So I, I think we may and then we'll now get some input from
what other people. Okay. Because we're torn, right? And we have ideas but we're gonna have to look at it so I I would
like to hear from people to see like maybe you know, wonder what I've gotten feedback from from staff members and you know
what? The one one request it came and this is a natural request, you know, and have it here. Let's go back here is A
lot of our neighboring schools. All have they all go with that longer spring break? And that because of we have staff members. Who like, that's really good for us, for our families
and stuff like that. And that we'd like to honor that, Um, that's gonna be challenged. This temporary situation. Yeah,
because I like, when we, when we have Passover and you, bring the same time, I first, you know, before, after a reason why we should go back, we should chase. Make sure we operate
here. We stop doing that for a while. But that's not a bad model Father. Yeah um But I mean, that's so I think this is, I think you're ready to We had a
conversation. We all have something to think about. Probably going to walk my dogs, I'm sure. And you might an idea might occur to you. This is the name of a conversation. So this
is way early we start but we know how important this is. We know the challenges so I think gathering feedback now is the right thing to do here. People
have to say um and then revisit I can come back and read it this every two weeks. Yeah. Until we figure it out but I would like to try to nail it down. We
usually get it done in the spring I think, cause this is gonna look different. We want to make sure we have this answer at least the first reading, I
know. Denver, right? Yeah. decision because it is, you know, if we go with this model That's I thought I've put this
more about going. I didn't think anyone like this model, but I'd be good when I showed it. We're gonna work over this model. That that difference free break. That's a big difference for
people who traditionally travel every spring break, right? That's gonna impact how people plan things. Um, So, I think
it's important that we take time here with people say. um, and come back and reincorporate that. So what I can do is as I get feedback over the next two weeks, I'll come
back and talk with us again. I'll put together. The feedback we got, I think it's important to say this. feedback is giving
us what people think they is not a this is not and we're gonna have as many ideas from Republicans ever happened to you forward, you email to you. Yes,
we'll make to us so that we can have one document that maybe someone out there is gonna have Yeah. As we're, so we're preparing,
we're talking folks to maybe do the fourth option where you come back before. Labor ready. That's what that looks like on paper and I think, ultimately, you
know, we want to have solutions that are relatively relatively simple or doesn't affect a whole bunch of months, just affects a couple things. Maybe it's a
spring break, it's coming back a little bit earlier, but as simple as possible for families. Yes. All that option tomorrow
and when I post this on the website, I'll have that all include that before I posted, so people can see. Yeah, I think it's Help them. I think the
other thing too. Of when you said though the idea of planning it two years out like of because it's not just this one year. It's because this is piggybacking off of this
piggybacking off of that. I think having like both of those calendars together and as part of the discussion, I think it's
really cute and I think making Clear that this is for. We, although things things might change later, but I do think that helps people visualize. I
I said if we did have destruction I would be recommending. Starting school before. Yeah, I would. Yeah I remember I don't want to do that because We all
know that. something goes, sometimes things don't work with the structurally wanting to, we want to give ourselves as much of a buffer airs. We can um,
but if that were not the case, I was certainly saying we should really look at That temper first here. But what we'll do is, we'll hear from comments,
and I'm sure here's up, I'll put out. A communication to the attached. Not only posted website early next week, I'll put out a communication to all
through parents where everyone was saying. Hey here's models. Please give feedback. Should we have a link on like a Google form where people go? I'll
figure out like that. Yeah, I'm linked order. I mean, also help That's what I'm sitting here thinking, too, because it and I think we need to reiterate for
everyone. This is not a vote. I just careful right order. Exactly Yeah. That's identify the priorities. Generally.
Yeah, this is not a vote and I think this is, this is really important. We're sitting here and we we can't even agree. But we're at least saying What are
the reasons you we have to have reasons it has to do with academics, it has to do with professional development. It has to do with construction only
because that then will impact how early we can have kindergarten. These are the things you need to talk about. We all love our families, real.
I love family time. It's, it's critical to me. I mean, I guard it with my life. This is not a discussion about family time vacation. You're right, you're
absolutely right. That should be. Front and center. I think, as we approach it and also like you said, Jamie and Linda, that
this is, you know, whatever changes. We need to make to accommodate this huge amount of work and enhancing everything about our district. And this is not a permanent change where you know,
we'll address the following years later, but that might make it more palatable. Perhaps we do something now, we finally like it better than we're doing and we switch how we do things
in the future? Yeah, there's a lot of possibility come out of this. Um but most urgently is Um, we've got an awkward counter situation. You've got
possibilities. We've got to talk through and You know. If I think we approved count, I think we approved this this
year. Next year's calendar. This year's calendar like in February when they're we're gonna try to get this done. by
November right at least the first reading by November one, knows what it's going to be by that. Um, so that gives us two or three more shots at before we
get so I can come back with feedback from you guys. If she's thinking about more, but I get from the community and we've revised models. As I said, that
one thing we haven't done. Here is roll the dice with our 181st that I mean, I know we don't want to do that. I certainly
say, I would say this in a model, we had a full release of five days spring break I would be willing to roll the dice with a hundred and eighty-first
day. If we were going to the model that did not have that this one or this one, I would not roll the dice with that right because that's a big
difference. Um, so Realize I put these here. There's, there's a there are endless combinations. I'm not a math guy. I know that he's not gonna but there's a lot of combinations we can take X Y
and Z and try to put it together. I'll do I'll make as many runs into you guys want me to ultimately, I want to make sure That we get the days in we give
we give this construction time. I also think we're not. We want to honor. Everything we do. I I and I strongly believe we need to honor PD and and so we've got
to make sure we don't just throw those days anywhere to sort of count Right? Because that's our bill. So we're doing we're doing
rough on refer now to enhance our buildings. Our PV is what enhances are instruction and that's what we're here to do. So I'm not saying the first day, the first three days can work.
um, but I wanted I want to make sure if we do it we're going to make sure we have a, we will have to make sure we have a plan that makes them as valuable as possible. Um, so that's what
that'll be. Hey you guys say this is the way we want to do it. Do you know? And I, and our supervisors will make good solid PD there. Um, but so anyway, I think even
rattling. I think that helps I think I think we've at least got all the questions. Of course. Yes, we're gonna have public comment. We'll get some
more ideas, People are already, emailing me as I'm sitting here. So, we're, we're getting suggestions to help us. I think all that conduction.
It really, is it really is important because the counter tax people. So many different people and so many different ways. Right? Right. So this is of the ones where
You know, that's never been, shut the size that maybe that's such as I, that's exciting. What is the stuff feedback as far as like stacking the three PDA days in November versus
like kind of sprinkling it throughout the year. I think we're here for the HEA in a minute. Because about the
stocking the PD in the beginning. Hurt by. Our design. so I think that's everything
that is a possibility and I can think that something that, you know, as professionals we would take that. I mean, I know. Yeah. I understand what Chuck's
saying is, is that a bit difficult? You know, trying to get meaningful beauty but I think when you do anything, all the people who ever had after meaningful, right? And the models that we
have right now with all being in November, is that, is that Seems helpful to everyone half, I agree with one person. Still
very broken up month. cities in what we've been doing as teachers have planned and accordingly. But I also understand what you mean saying as far as you know, why don't you try to elsewhere? I think that
definitely be, you know, if we moved it and we have that self and TVs and they're never 60 days, For them. yeah, so I
think And you adore that. Yeah, so well now open public comment. Members of community are invited
to. Speak. Anyone can email me with your thought, I mean This was a lot. Yeah, question, maybe doing what you do. I always say Welcome my dog and say I think this I think that
Send me an email, I'll call those. And I'll compile everything. I get comments. I get from the community. You know, I'll make a Dodge shared box you could see that way. It's not
forward. Yeah. probably trends that emerged. Well you sure about Different ideas. Any other comments before we go. Okay. Members of the public are invited to speak for up to three
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in meetings, as such citizens are expected to maintain a tone of courtesy and civility. I've been here in a long time. Susan Hoke. 550 Klausville Road.
Okay, driving over here. Think I'm the oldest person in the room. Um, there's music about what if this was a board event meeting in 1875 years ago. I would have ridden
my course. I would have been my Buggy, with my horse, whatever. Now, I drive in a car, but you have the same schedule. You
have an 1875. At that time children were needed for the farm. That's why they were off in July and August, they helped
on the farm, they helped with the harvest. That's a hundred and fifty years ago. There. I guess I'd like to know how many
active farms do we have right now in Haddonfield not counting crows woods? How many of our citizens are employed as farmers or even owner brother
form? So I think it's kind of silly, actually, I think it's profoundly absurd. That in 2025 we use a schedule for an agrarian society from 1875. You want to know why
Europe is doing better? The French who have a lot of agriculture have school all the way through July. Then they're on this vacations. The UK does
this? South Korea does this. We want to know why our students are behind. It's not just phones. It's because we have cut the school year. We have a
school year for a time when there was no computers. No biochemistry, no, microbiology, no, virology Should I continue? So it's just
a comment. I know you won't take me up on it, but just think about it. We are back in 1875 in terms of our educational calendar.
That's all I myself. Thank you. Hello Carol. Stoner on Avondale Avenue. I would like to thank you personally, for reinstating
the school resource officer. Absolutely needed here. Especially with all the chaos that went over there with the crossing guard. Not there. I
personally don't think that the new sidewalk was put in the great spot. To have to cross King's Highway and then have to cross Sylvan. I don't really
understand why it was done that way. I know there was a study to do it that way, but it doesn't make sense. So now you have two streets are impacted. I personally would put it right in
front of the school district in front of the front door. That's why I would put it, but You obviously have to figure that out and you know, that people have to stop what they're doing. The administrators that
stop met him over and help people process here today. So that's really complicated. um, one to let you know, I'm very concerned about the lack of
parking, that will be available for students in the future. We do not have parking on the bank. We will not have parking on the Bank Park lot, where kids are
also parked and they're also parking where your turf feels gonna be shortly. So I'm not exactly sure where all the cars are going to go. I look more
kids are driving now than they used to, but I didn't want. but, And this is gonna be incredibly.
Unpop. Do you think? That's all should start before Labor Day. Um, the reason is my kids are constantly said that. It will you get out too late? I hear it
all the time. I hadn't builds up silly hand. Feels absolutely. Why are you out so late? Well, maybe we need to cut something off of a spring break or
something off of November break or something, like, cut it down because is we have solely it There are capability for our kids. Get summer because they
can't get out and knock on my son. Had a full-term full-time job this summer as an intern and you know what it really affected your ability to get to that
job. Everyone else is already there. Especially if you're in a private school year out your own beginning of June, they've definitely have advantage of us.
Sports are already in session as we know for doing this fall sport. You're already there already there. Anyway. Um, and I
think you brought up for AP class prep. The fact that we don't have that time frame in order to prepare for school and everything else starts. So yes I
am a proponent, nobody else I like that. But you talked about it, you talked about a temporary solution. You're like this is temporary because this is you know because of
construction. But you know what does it have to be temporary? It could be something that's just like, get it started, get it done. And then get your school year done, quick. Of kids can
actually do things in the summer and so it can start earlier than on the call. That thank you.
Any. Other come okay, we will move on to our agenda. First time in a while, we have a work session.
Yeah, yes. So no, I mean like I'm not reading the whole agenda. Thank you. Oh, why is a God. Yeah, not good. Okay, so governance, Yeah, let me know
if you have any questions. just to Clarificate, I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah so the the 25-26 calendars on there or in the year this is remember we had to move two hour delay because the state testing locked us into one
week, which is doing two-hour. Delays we couldn't we couldn't hold two hours away that day if we moved into the weekend. That's why that calendars about
that. Curriculum and special education. My only question on that one was for G and H that tuition is listed is not the amount that's
in there. Is that? Because of transportation costs? Also, or Something else. I'm yeah. Okay, well, just take a look at
it because that was the one. Having really thought about what? We have. Spent a lot of time with the agenda today.
Yeah, I know this. Um all right. Yeah, other I I am thank you for the curriculum maps and they're they were done really well what would come? He's one of my life. I was
on the website was using them in my classes like you know I love seeing the text that are assigned. It's really nice. Very cool approach. Okay, personnel.
Well I would just echo with Chuck. I think had said about D that this teacher has really limited time to set up their classrooms and got it done. Yeah, thank you. Okay, at business Finance.
Thank you to the volleyball boosters. And then anything on the next. All right. Future consider. Obviously this
is an ongoing. Yeah, yeah. And I'm what I'll do is I will give I'll try to give it a couple updates, the email in the next one because I get feedback in
those things. I come up different ideas and it's actually Kind of Rockies and play account, remove dates around. So I'll take a half an hour day and do that to give myself a little bit. Yeah. And
if I come up, if I come up with something brilliant idea, where We just go to school seven days a week, like three months. so I'll continue updating, as I
get feedback, I'll continue to monitor that and share with you. All right, any other? All right, motion to adjourn. So, It's
this whole side of the table. Ready to go. Everybody. Yes.