bought three homes and never retired to Florida. >> I don't think you're doing it right now. >> Where didn't you have a home? >> I know. Where haven't you lived? What haven't you done? >> Yeah. I mean, like, you surprised me all the time. >> Well, let's see. What can I aspire?
Hi Paul. I don't know if you can hear me. >> Yes, Joe. Everybody can hear you. >> That I read a statement that he has prepared. He is unable to be at the meeting. And this is referenced an agenda item 6.G.
Okay. So, Joe, you're you're part of the public meeting. We're getting ready to start. Uh Leila will open up public comments the appropriate time and you can speak up then. >> When you're called. >> When you're called. >> This meeting is called pursuant to the provisions of the open public meetings
law. Would you all please rise for the flag? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> Roll call, please. Committeewoman Evans, >> here. >> Committeeman Montgomery, >> present. >> Committeeman Dick, >> present. >> Deputy Mayor Tory, >> here. Mayor Gilmore, >> here. >> Minutes. I need a motion and a second.
>> So moved. >> Second. >> Mr. Montgomery? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Evans? >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory? >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore? >> Yes. >> Reports. Sergeant Tinucci. Would you like to come?
>> Hello. Uh, everyone. >> Good evening. Um, I just want to uh with the fall and it's getting dark earlier, there's a lot of deer running around. We've had a lot of deer crashes, so be careful at night when uh you're driving.
Um, I just want to also uh uh bring up Trooper Bowman has been active with the community policing in town and is working with the Burlington County Prosecutor's Office to implement uh the arrive program. ARIVER stands for alternative responses
to reduce instances of violence and escalation. Ensure it pairs law enforcement with mental health professionals at scenes requiring such intervention. The four goals of the arrive program uh per the attorney general's uh website are arrive is
leading to safer outcomes for our most vulnerable residents. Having a mental health specialist rather than an officer address behavioral health concerns is keeping residents safe. Specifically, the involvement of an arrive team leads to few arrests, fewer uses of force,
fewer injuries, and eliminates racial disparities with respect to outcome. Second, arrive is increasing the utilization of mental health resources. Traditionally, an officer interacting with an individual in crisis would either call a screener and wait for them to arrive on scene or consistent with
law make the decision themselves to transport the individual voluntarily or involuntarily to the hospital. Under our co-response and close follow-up model, screeners are on scene from beginning or near the beginning of response, saving the officer wait time, bringing
appropriate medical assistance faster and preventing situations from escalating. Uh the third uh uh is arrive keeps uh residents in the in the community. According to New Jersey Department of Human Services, about a third of individuals in crisis
who are transported to emergency room actually require hospitalization. Clinicians have the training and experience to determine when someone should be evaluated for hospitalization and when that individual is able to remain in the community, particularly when connected to services to meet their
needs. Finally, Arrive is improving trust between law enforcement and community. Arrive is community informed and designed to fit the specific needs and resources of each community. Arrive improves the health and well-being of individuals with mental health, mental and behavioral health emergencies and
eliminates stigma by connecting individuals to care and resources rather than the criminal justice system. Uh we are in the process of scheduling a meeting with the Burlington County Prosecutor's Office and hope to have a meeting soon to discuss the program and begin its implementation. Uh troopers
from Bour uh Borntown Station have attended uh several events. We were at the most recently trunk or treat the first responder dinner. Um and we also with the upcoming holiday season will be at the upcoming holiday season events. and uh thank you for inviting us and
it's uh always great to attend these events. >> Well, we enjoy having you there. >> Thank you. Thanks so much. >> Real quick, and it's a low priority, Adam, which is why I didn't bother you with it, but since you're right in front of us, uh over the last couple months, there's been a series of eggings in at
least Creek View and Lakeside. Um I don't know if other places I didn't want to make a big deal of it, but there's been five or six of them. >> All right. >> Um including the sign. >> Yeah. Again, very low priority, >> but uh I know of of my neighbor's car,
my front door. >> Okay. >> Um Mike Luck, what street do you live on? >> I'm sorry. I don't mean to. >> I'm on >> one of So, thank you. Uh there was a house on Sailor at their house and there So, there's it's kind of spread out and it's been since August. It wasn't a mission, I think. All right. >> So, again, low priority. >> I'll let our troopers know.
>> Perfect. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. With that, we have several reports to um accept. I need a motion in a second, please.
>> So moved. >> Second. >> Mr. Montgomery? >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Evans? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory? >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore? >> Yes. >> All right. We are now um open for comments from the public. This is with regards to agenda items only. Comments
are limited to five minutes. Is there anyone in the audience that has a comment to make? Yes, ma'am. >> No, it's already >> someone's already coming. >> Hold on.
Okay, good morning. >> Janice Ludden, 14 Heather Lane, and I'm speaking to express my objection to ordinance 2025-16, which grants an easement through Hannesports Creek term Park into the Rancus Creek for the benefit of a private developer. First, I'm disappointed in the timing of this
ordinance. Joint Land Use Board passed its resolution in September 2024, over a year ago. Bringing this forward only now, right after the election, feels politically motivated and it risks political consequences going forward. And I'm also disappointed in the
process. The easement first came before the township committee on April 9th, 2024, 18 months ago. Three members voted to let the developer present plans relying on the easement to the joint land use before any alternatives without the easement were evaluated. That early vote
signaled to the developer that the easement would likely be granted even though it was not yet approved. At the August 7th, 2024 joint land use board meeting, so well over a year ago, the board approved a plan dependent on an easement. The joint land use board's job was not to determine if that plan was
best for the residents of Hannesport, only if the site plan followed the township's ordinances and state laws. Approval was dependent on a condition which the joint land use board has no authority to grant. Their attorney, Mr. Kingsbury, stated, "It is a township issue whether or not an easement is
granted or denied. It is not a land use board issue." So, the joint land use board's approval was only conditional. As Mr. McCay clarified, the township committee's decision on the easement is independent, is not necessarily pre-ordained by the vote here. That means that it is your decision as our
elected representatives to determine what's best for Hannesport residents. Deferring to the joint land use board's conditional pro it would be sherking that responsibility. Is allowing a private developer to maximize profit while cutting through a public park the best choice for our
town? I don't believe so. The township gains little if anything from the easement while scarring part of a community park. Is this the best site plan for the good of Hannesport? And I don't believe so. It is, however, the one that crams in the most homes. a smaller project could manage storm water
on a on the site and avoid disturbing the park. At the joint land use board hearing, R&M's attorney said it was impossible to capture all the storm water on site. That's only true because the current plan packs 41 units. Fewer units would reduce runoff and leave room
for proper infiltration. In reading through the minutes, R&M's engineer made some misleading statements to the joint land use board. He claimed the D has quote reduced the amount of infiltration you're allowed to do. That's misleading as the D still prioritizes infiltration
whenever feasible and only allows discharge when it isn't. R&M even owns the adjacent and currently undeveloped property block 100 law 8.02 which could help meet storm water requirements without using the park. And none of these units to my knowledge help
us meet our affordable housing obligations. So, the community gain is unclear. I've heard claims that in return for using the park, the developer would allow for a new road into the park coming off of Bankraftoft. And at this point, I think that idea deserves re-evaluation. Since Big Rusty opened,
the park sees hundreds of weekly visitors, mostly non-residents, opening new access through Creek View, Lakeside, and this new development could introduce unwanted traffic into our residential areas. And another touted benefit is a trail, but the pipeline path has to stay
clear of trees for maintenance, meaning this trail would just be in the shape of the pipe, primarily straight, and not a scenic woodland path. I am here hoping to persuade the committee as to why this pipeline should not run through the park. I would suggest that the real question needs to be addressed is what are the valid reasons as to why it
should be permitted? How will this really benefit Hazport residents? and does it justify possibly setting a precedent that our township public land or parks can be used for private gains? Thank you for allowing to share my concerns. >> Thank you, Janice. >> Thanks, Janice.
>> Yes. >> State your name and address. Um, my name is Eva Klein and I live at 14 Newport Drive in Lakeside Creek. Um, I don't have as much to say. It was a very good speech, but I just wanted to express my displeasure at this development and the
easement because the traffic study that was done was done in 2020 prior to Big Rusty being built and situated there. There's a lot of traffic coming in to Big Rusty. It's an attraction for our
community. There's no need to create a road through Lakeside at Creek View. It's going to increase the traffic in our development. The traffic from the new uh 41 homes, this the senior community, it's going to be really
really a nightmare. Um we don't need that. And I also agree that you should not be taking a beautiful public parks and having a precedent set by creating this going through there and the tax money that will be used to upkeep this
which we don't need. We have what's we have a little area that's really pretty. It's really nice. It would be nice to have that without all that congestion. We're original owners of the home and we've been here a long time and we're we would not look forward to having
something like that in our area. Thank you. >> Thank Thanks, Eva. >> Anyone else? >> I wanted to hand out something to everyone if that's possible. Thanks John.
>> Thanks John. >> Thank you John. >> Thanks John. >> I would like one as the administrator. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh, John Kaine, Ten Cove Court, Hanesport, New Jersey.
I'm here tonight in opposition of the pipeline through CreekTurn Park. I have pride in Hannesport and only wish to make it better, but what is being proposed and voted on tonight will not make it better. First off, I and the people in this crowd want to know who gave permission to the developer to
already mark off the 400 plus feet winding through Creekturn Park is going to be clear-cut for this pipeline. That is significantly longer than a football field. The impact on the park is unacceptable. I've been told the
burden of owners to explain why this project shouldn't be done is on me instead of you. But I think it is quite the opposite. You should have to persuade this crowd why it is necessary to have this. I do not view a road entrance as an equivalent trade for this pipeline, especially when this developer
already has acres of land behind his diner and are not being utilized for this project. So, the developer is using public lands, destroying the park and the high bluff of the Rancokas Creek, and he gets to keep all the rest of his land for future development and profit.
make him use his own land. I had previously brought this up the issues before. Um, was Creek Term Park financed with either municipal open space funding and or county open space funding? If so, the use of property for
a storm for a stormwater easement by a private developer may be in violation of the municipal open space tax statute NJSA 4012-15.9. If the land that is currently Creek term Park was not purchased using open space tax dollars from Hannesport residents,
how was it paid for? What concession was given by the developer to avoid not violating the municipal open space tax statute? I was told the open space tax issues I raise are not impediments to the township moving forward with negotiating
conveying an easement to facilitate the potential discharge of storm water runoff from this proposed development. And even if the D and Green Acres is allowing the diversion, that doesn't make it right. I was told we received previous
asurances from the D and Green Acres that the easement would not cause a diversion. That doesn't make it right. It is a diversion whether it's allowed or not. I was never given any reasons or details as to why these were all allowed. The vote will be to allow a diversion
through creek term park. It is a diversion of township lands to be utilized by a private developer land that should be preserved and protected. It's the people's land. Municipal ordinances, statutes, and D greenacres rules exist to protect open space and
natural areas which are all are already under threat. Just because a loophole or technicality allows this action doesn't mean it should be done or is in the public's best interest. The township appears to be circumventing established protections through timing and
technicalities to the benefit of a private developer. That's not right. This is not just about legal definitions or permits. This is about allowing the destruction of part of CreekTurn Park, exposing the area to increased risk and
maintenance burdens, unknown cost and risk that will increase our tax burdens, ignoring the long-term consequences for the existing neighborhood and its residents. These municipal tax ordinances and statutes and D greenacres rules are in
place for a reason. They are there to protect open space, the diminishing nature we have and the quality of our life. The township has figured out a way to bypass these ordinances, statutes, and rules. That doesn't make it right. The township will be allowing a private
developer to destroy part of Creek Park. Based on what is best, being lost does not warrant getting a trail or a road. This park in the high bluffs of the southern branch of the Rancokus Creek are a true rarity and gem. These
parklands are priceless. The storm water system of this development could be redesigned to take advantage of the permeable soils and use use infiltration which is the preferred alternate alternative to collect and dumping storm water to the nearest waterway.
Do you know why all those tax statutes, municipal statutes, greenacre rules, and environmental laws are in place? Because this is something you just don't do. They are there to protect things that should not be destroyed. Greenacres did not do their job to protect us. The m
the municipal tax statutes were bypassed and did not do their job to protect us. The New Jersey DP did not protect us. The developer only cares about one thing, profit. He does not care about the park land and he's not care about the residents of Hannesport. So who does
that who does who does that leave to protect Hannesport residents and the place where we live the last and strongest line of defense? My local representatives. I beg you please do the job you were elected for and pre represent Hannesport residents. Please
protect me and the town I live in. >> I need you to uh wrap it up your time. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, John. >> Thank you, John. >> Recognize Paula Yulan. >> You want to yield? Ma'am, she's
yielding. >> She's yielding. >> Uh Sandra Sooff, 48 Braftoft Lane, Hannesport, New Jersey. Um I'm here to object to the ordinance 202516 for the storm water easement. um
both for environmental reasons and financial reasons and implications to the township. If you vote yes to this, the township will be allowing disturbance of significant wetlands on this township owned land that is block 100 lot. It is considered a wetland and
New Jersey D classifies it this lot as an exceptional resource value. It's also classified by NJD this block 100 lot 10. It's a wetland mitigation bank service area. That means that if it's disturbed,
payment must be made into a fund to offset the disturbance. Have you actually explored the cost of this disturbance to the township? Block 100, lots 9 and 10, as well as lot 8.03, 03 where the housing development is proposed contains five federally
protected and endangered and threatened species including the New Jersey endangered bog turtle. The storm water pipe is proposed to dump into the south branch of the Rancokus Creek which is a significant tidal waterway. Um that together with the surrounding wetlands
are protected by New Jersey and the federal government. Runoff from this housing development will adversely affect the sensitive creek and surrounding wetlands. Is Hannesport Township willing to be responsible for this damage to wetlands and the title waterway? I would hope not. Thanks.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening everyone. I'm Paula Yulan. 12:15 Woodford Lane, Haynesport. Um, a long me a long-term member. >> Sure. >> I'm going to start over, Leela. >> No problem.
>> Can you restart the time? >> Yeah. >> Hi. Sorry, Lea. >> That's okay. >> I'm Paul Yulan, resident of Haydensport, 1215 Woodford Lane. Um, a member of Hannesport Township Environmental Commission. Um, I think this is my 19th
anniversary. I just want to remind everyone H Techch is a volunteer organization. There's no benefits, there's no pay, there's nothing except for volunteer time. So I just want to know what everybody knows what HEK is. At the HC meeting on July 31, our
committees reviewed the final development site plan for Longbridge Estate Diamontes Senior Citizen Housing. During our meeting during our our our we discussed the proposal to clear cut roughly 20 feet by 400 foot swah through Creek turn park to put in a storm drain pipeline from the proposed development
to the Rancokus Creek. In addition to reviewing the engineering plan, several htag members visited through proposed path of the pipeline from the edge of Creekm Park to where it will end where it entered the Rancokus. During our visit to the site in the path of the
pipeline, we observed pristine sections of previously undisturbed forest, an old grove of hollow trees, a massive white oak tree, red cedar trees, a number of mature willow oak trees, which are estimated to be over 150 years old. The
pipeline's path would cut directly through an approximately 40ft coastal bluff that has existed there since the last ice age. Plans call for the removal of several mature trees from the top of the bluff which are critical in holding standy
soil there at a steep angle. They will be replaced by a system of chainlink fences to hold up the size the sides of this enormous cut. The land from land the view will be permanently ruined. chainlink fences from the creek. What has been a worldclass view of this large
bluff overlooking a tidal estuary since our founders arrived will resemble the ma a mouth with a missing tooth. Htech is strongly opposed to granting R&M Development LLC permission for the
pipeline to go through creek turn park. Creekturn Park is a significant portion of Hinsport open space preservation. The pipeline endangers the opportunity to protect part of what this park what makes this park valuable. In a 2017
letter from Reagan Design Group assess assessment of property there was a paragraph entitled natural environment which describes the landing the land as a surprising treasure. It goes on to say the site has remained
a quiet haven for years. Topographically, the southern portion of the park is unique, having a promontory over a dramatic bend in the river is very rare. Once upon the upland, the vegetation is hardwood forest with oak, chestnut, tulle, popppler trees, and creating a
rich and diverse habitat of flora and fauna. The pipeline will cut across and damage every aspect of the landscape described. Where the park borders that run in Kokus, there's a significant elevation change. This is also where there's a a scenic bend in the river. The proposed
pipeline will require the removal of several trees now protecting the creek edge and a large upper section of the existing 40-foot bluff will be removed permanently. In its place will be a concrete outfall structure covered with stone and chainlink fencing to support
the embankment and protect the pipe. From the water, there will be a view of a concrete head wall. From the position on the trail, the view over time without the existing trees and vegetation, the sandy soil in place, we
can experience major erosion in this cut. There's also a risk that any misjudgment in engineering could precipitate a collapse. Creating the path for the pipe will cut through several sections of previously undisturbed forest. In its path are many valuable trees which have been growing
for longer than Hatesport has been incorporated. Creekturn Park has allowed Hannesport to preserve natural resources and a part of the environment in our town for the benefit of all our residents now and for a future generation. This belongs to all our residents, not just a few. We
realize that denial of the storm water pipe will require modification of the site proposal to meet the MS4 storm water management regulations. This would ideally reduce the number of units so that the storm water would be managed on the site finding an alternative defacing
the most dynamic portion of the park. Thank you for your time. Do you have any questions? >> Thank you, Paula. Thanks, Paul. >> Yes. Good evening everyone. My name is
Deborah Playa, 50 Braftoft Lane. Um, I h actually have a copy of the letter uh that the last resident just referenced and I'd like to uh to hand it out. Um, I have a copy for for everyone. >> Thanks, Debbie.
>> Thanks, Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> The history of this letter is that it was requested by Paula Costco back in uh
September in or about September of 2017 when Hannesport was in the process of purchasing the Kleiner property. And what's interesting, in addition to calling it a a surprising treasure and noting that it's been um uh in existence
since prehistoric times, in the conclusion of this letter, uh the uh Reagan design said, "This parcel uh I'm sorry, we are at a loss to think of another uh parcel with this vast frontage, physioraphic characteristics,
geological relevance and ecological uh diversity which remains without impact. act from residential or commercial development. We recommend the parcel be preserved as best as possible. And I'd just like to remind everyone that this was Hannesport's own uh professional who
who wrote this letter. Uh the only other uh issues that I want to raise, I've raised it with the uh township committee before, but I just want to uh to reiterate my concerns about maintenance. Um, when I was reviewing this, I uh I was reminded uh I looked at the uh site
plan that was pre prepared by Jack Gralin and I noted that in the site plan uh he has on there a notation where the HOA is going to maintain the easement that's on the HOA common element, but
there's no similar notation for the easement that's on public property. So, it raises concerns in my my mind as to who is going to maintain that property. And having been involved in cases where there are HOAs uh or even just anybody
who doesn't ma properly maintain their property, it's it's a huge exposure for Hannesport. Are 41 homeowners going to be able to afford the maintenance for this property? If there's a major accident, a catastrophic discharge into the Rancokus Creek, are they going to be
able to pay for that? If there's an indemnification agreement, are they going between Hannesport and the HOA, are they going to have the uh financial wherewithal to indemnify uh Hannesport? I've been involved in a case where the uh attorney's fees were more than uh
$200,000 incl if we had lost that case. They we would have had to pay the other side's uh HOA fees. I'm sorry, attorney's fees, you could be looking at $400, $500,000 in attorney's fees. And I seriously doubt that a an HOA comprised of 41
homeowners would be able to indemnify Hannesport to uh would be able to pay that and uh andor indemnify uh Hannesport uh if Hannesport had to pay for it. Hannesport as the property owner uh bears the ultimate responsibility regardless of whether or not there's an
HOA um involved and whether or not there's an easement agreement. So, I am extremely concerned uh about uh Hannesport's potential liability. Um I'm also concerned about Hannesport's exposure under the Clean Water Act. So, for that reason, I am uh I I object to
this easement agreement. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Deborah. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else regards to anything on the agenda? >> Yes, ma'am. in the back of my head. >> Good evening. Samantha Loveman, 2514
Creek Road. Hannesport Township should not allow the easement. It puts the community at risk while only benefiting a private developer. The proposed storm water drain would cut through untouched woodland. It could cause erosion, habitat disruption, and long-term environmental
harm. If the pipe fails or causes pollution, taxpayers, not the developer, will bear the cost. Not to mention, this would be would place an undue burden on the future residents of this community. At at the heart, this is a case of privatizing profit and socializing loss.
The developer gains financially by squeezing more houses onto the land while the environmental damage, maintenance costs, and legal liabilities are handed to the people of Hansport. Allowing this easement would set a dangerous president, opening the door to future developers to seek similar favors
at the community's expense. Denying this easement isn't just a legal decision. It's a moral one to protect our land, our park, and our township from paying the price of private profit. Thank you. I also have a little pen out here.
>> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I don't need it. I don't need it. Sorry, Bob. Bob mode 202 Lumberton Road, Hannesport.
I'm also objecting to ordinance 2025-16. Good evening, Mayor Gilmore, members of the committee. Tonight, we've heard residents speak to a number of reasons they oppose this proposed easement as it stands. From an environmental perspective to the ongoing legal questions and the use of public land for
private monetization, just to name a few. Additionally, there are unresolved procedural questions. The joint land use board approval approved the easement in 2024. Yet it is only now over a year later as has been mentioned previously
much better than I am. Um being brought before the township committee now. This unusual delay raises legitimate questions about transparency and due process. Why was this proposal not advanced in a timely manner? The timing coming after
the recent election suggests an attempt to avoid public scrutiny or debate during the campaign season. Such procedural irregularities undermine the public trust in our local government. Finally, I must address the issue of political influence with concrete
evidence. According to publicly available records from the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission, the landowner seeking approval for this 41 unit development has been a consistent and generous donor to Mayor Gilmore's campaign and the local party, the local
Republican party, I should say. This established financial relationship raises concerns about whether d decisions are being made in the public's interest or to benefit a private donor. The appearance, if not the reality, of a
quidd proquo, is deeply troubling and risks eroding community confidence in our elected officials. We know that the property can be developed without having an easement running through the public land, without the outflow into a title portion of Rancokus Creek and without
destroying untold trees and habitats by trimming the number of units to 29 and having a completely self-contained retention pond that would not require the easement or runoff into Rancokus Creek. In closing, I want to reiterate
that your actions tonight will have lasting consequences. Approving the unpopular proposal, unpopular proposal, may alienate current and future residents, particularly those in the new development who may find their neighborhood serving as the main
public access point to Creek Turn Park. These residents and many others in our community will remember this vote when they go to the polls next November. I strongly urge each committee member to weigh public opinion and the long-term
well-being of our township above private interests. Please vote in favor of protecting our public land and upholding transparent governance and preserving trust in your community. Thank you for your time and your consideration. Thanks, Bob.
Jennifer Kaine, Ten Cove Court. I am also in opposition of this easement. My question is why can't this development utilize their own lands for their private development? By the developer using their own land for this private development that will eliminate the risk
to Hannesport residents. There is risk, there's liability, there's financial burden. And by having the bulk of that pipeline being on that benefits only the private development by having that being on the public land is not beneficial to
the Hannesport community. Not to mention the disruption that they have mentioned of the pristine lands that have remained undisturbed here for decades. There will need to be insurance and there's going to be need maintenance which given that the bulk of that pipeline is on the public land. I would
be surprised if any insurance company is going to provide that insurance to the private development. And even if they did, if something happens, Hannesport owns the land. It's going to default back to being Hannesport's risk and liability there. So, how does
that benefit the Hannesport residents to have to carry this burden that benefits once again only a private development as well as setting a precedent that it's okay to use public land for a private development? I hope that in your hearts
and minds, you truly put Hannesport residents first when you make this vote. Thank you. >> Thank you, Jennifer. Anyone else in the room? Yes, Tish. >> Joe is letting us know that he has his hand up. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Okay. >> Laticia Kelly, 525, number two, Hansport, New Jersey. As a member of the environmental commission, you have the paper that we had sent out in August. I
believe it was in August of last year uh against this proposed pipeline. There are many reasons that have been stated very well throughout the evening tonight. It is my position that you do not accept
this pipeline for many reasons. some of them safety reasons, some of them just uh for mostly environmental reasons against disturbing land that has never been disturbed in my lifetime
and I've lived here a long time. So, I would urge you to vote against allowing this pipeline to go through. Thank you very much. >> Thanks. >> Thanks, Sish. Yes, sir. >> Brian Shot, 114 Mason Woods Lane. Um,
also here to go on the record in opposition to the proposed easement. Um, I think there's a lot of uh maybe brighter minds in this room that have spoken to some of the environmental concerns, uh, public land use concerns, some of the legal concerns. Um, the
thing that I want to talk about is the concern that I have with the process. Um, and I just want to go on the record saying the process doesn't sit right with me, and I don't think it does with a lot of other people in this room. The last time I was here speaking before this committee, it was four years ago.
Um, and it was just about the same time of year, coincidentally enough. Um, and that was in opposition to the affordable housing project that's now on Creek Road. I feel like the same thing is happening here that happened then, which is that right after an election, we see a
controversial issue on an agenda before this committee. Maybe that's a coincidence. It doesn't feel like a coincidence to me. It feels like this committee has made a habit of waiting until after an election to hear the most
controversial items, to hear the things that are going to see the type of public opposition that you see in this room tonight. So, I just wanted to go on the record saying in addition to all of the other things that have been mentioned here tonight about why this project is wrong, um I wanted to add the process um
to the the list of concerns here because it doesn't feel right to me and it feels like it flies in the face of transparency and good government. Thank you. >> Thanks, Pam. >> Anyone else in the room?
Seeing none, Shulie is online. >> Thank you. Good evening. Joe Schulie, three on our drive. Bruce Levenson was unable to attend or call into the meeting tonight, so he asked that I read
his comments regarding agenda item 6G, Ordinance 2025-16. The following are his comments. quote, "I saw Committeewoman Evans Facebook post about the proposed 55 and over
senior housing development block 100 lots 9 and 10 on Hannesport Township map behind the Pandora Diner. In that post, it was suggested that Hannesport already has enough senior housing and it was mentioned that New
Jersey ranks 27th. Without context, that number is hard to interpret. It could mean almost anything. To better understand, I looked into planning benchmarks used by states
and townships for senior housing. Here's what I found. State housing plans often set a target of 5 to 10% of total housing stock for senior housing.
In areas with greater need, this can rise to 15%. Importantly, New Jersey does not mandate a specific percentage of 55 and over housing. Currently, Hannesport has only one
dedicated senior housing development, the Glenn, with 255 age restricted homes. The proposed project would add about 40 more bringing the total to 295 senior
homes. These are the numbers with this development added. Total residences 2,896. Senior residents 295. Percentage of total residences would be
10.2%. This percentage falls squarely within the accepted planning benchmarks. And if you include the additional 50 homes from the Long Bridge development located at the end of Eastn Way, the
senior housing share would drop slightly below 10%. Conclusion: Building this development would not create an excess of senior housing in Hannesport. In fact, it would align with planning standards and
provide a positive fiscal impact. Additional benefits of senior housing. Higher property tax revenue per unit compared to standard single family homes. Less strain on school and municipal services.
Greater net fiscal benefit for tax dollar collected. Reduced traffic impact and lower demand for recreation and public works services. Lastly, please note there is a
consistent demand for this type of housing across New Jersey. Thank you." Unquote. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Joe. >> Thank you. Thank you, Joe. >> Is there anyone else online? >> There are several people online.
>> Anyone want to speak? Please unmute and introduce yourself. No move. >> Nope. >> I will now close public comment. >> Ordinances 2025-10
to appropriate the sum of $600,000 in funding from the capital improvement fund for the acquisition of a firet truck. This is the public hearing and adoption. I open for public hearing. Is there anyone in the room that wishes to
speak? Anyone online? No. I need a motion and a second, please. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Evans. >> Yes. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore.
>> Yes. Ordinance 2025-11 amending chapter 85 of the code of the township of Hannesport entitled fire prevention to create a position of fire services
coordinator and establish the framework for the delegation of firefighting services and authorize an agreement with the Hannesport Volunteer Fire Company. This is the public hearing and adoption. Is there anyone in the room that wishes to speak?
online. >> I need a motion and a second, please. >> Motion move. >> Second. >> Uh, Mr. Dick, >> yes. >> Mrs. Tory, >> yes. >> Miss Evans, >> yes. >> Mr. Montgomery, >> yes. >> Mayor Gilmore, >> yes. Ordinance 2025-12
authorizing the acquisition and subsequent sale of block 72, lot 7 located on M Highway and Maryland Avenue. This is the first reading and public hearing and adoption will be December the 9th.
I need a motion and a second. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Mrs. Evans? >> Yes. >> Mr. Montgomery? >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory? >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore? >> Yes. Ordinance 2025-13 repealing and replacing chapter 127 of
the code entitled pedalling and soliciting. This is the first reading. Public hearing and adoption will be December the 9th. I need a motion and a second. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Mrs. Tory. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Evans.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore. >> Yes. Ordinance 2025-14 amending chapter 180 of the code of the township painsport entitled parking to prohibit parking on a section of
Oaklane. This is the first reading the public hearing and adoption will be December the 9th. I need a motion in a second. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Evans. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore.
>> Yes. Ordinance 2025-15 amending chapter 104 of the code entitled land use to create a new zoning district to be known as AH2 and to include blocks 10 uh 108 lot 1.01
1.02 3.01 4.03 4.05 4.06 also known as the Hicko property and two adjacent lots. This is the first reading. The public hearing and adoption would be December the 9th. I need a
motion and a second. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Miss Evans? >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick? >> Yes. >> Miss Tory? >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore? >> Yes. >> Ordinance 2025-16 granting the storm water easement over
sections of the property designated as block 100, lots nine and 10. This is the first reading. The public hearing and adoption would be December the 9th. I need a motion in a second. >> I'd like to make a motion to table this
ordinance because it is based on an easement agreement that we have not yet seen and that we will not see until executive session. I do not think we should be asked to vote on an ordinance based on an agreement that we have not seen. I make that motion to table.
>> Do I have a second? Again, I ask for a motion and a second. >> Do I have a motion? >> I am making the motion because the public hearing is next month on December
9th. And I move that yes, we we move forward with this for the public hearing on December 9th. >> So, if I can clarify, there's not a second to Anna's request to table this. >> Correct. There was The motion has died. >> Yes. >> So now you're presenting a motion
>> to introduce >> to introduce. >> Yes. >> It's to introduce to have a public hearing is what it is. So we're not approving anything. >> No. >> Correct. >> We're just having the public hearing. >> You're introducing the ordinance so that the public hearing can be conducted in December >> with answers to a lot of these questions
and everything that we can Yes. >> respond to and then answers that >> that candly I'd like to get based on a number of this and I'm sure other people as well. So to to do more homework and then to do this >> part of the exercise tonight during close session is to review the draft agreement together collectively.
>> I think you guys have a lot of good questions and environmental issues to to me are the most important. But there's also a lot of stuff out there that isn't quite accurate. >> I don't think you're getting the correct. >> Do I have a second? >> Yes. >> You made the motion. >> I will second I will second them.
>> Roll call, please. >> Mrs. Tory, >> yes. >> Mr. Montgomery, >> yes. Miss Evans, >> no. >> Mr. Dick, >> yes. >> Mayor Gilmore, >> yes. >> Consent resolutions A to F. I need a motion and a second, please.
>> So moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> I'm sorry. >> Mrs. Tory, >> yes. >> Mrs. Evans, >> yes. >> Mr. Montgomery, >> yes. >> Mr. Dick, >> yes. >> Mayor Gilmore, >> yes. Resolution 2025-159-11 amending the shared service agreement
with Lumberton Township Emergency Services. >> So moved. Second. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Miss Zans. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Miss Tory. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore. >> Yes. Resolution 2025-160-11 authorizing fire service agreement with
Hannesport Volunteer Fire Company. I need a motion in a second. >> Motion. >> Second. Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory, >> yes. >> Mrs. Evans, >> yes. >> Mr. Montgomery, >> yes. >> Mayor Gilmore, >> yes. Resolution 2025-161-11,
amending resolution 2025-15-1 establishing an annual schedule of meetings. I need a motion in a second. >> So moved. Second. >> Pick the meeting later. >> Mr. Montgomery,
you have to pick the date. We have to pick that date >> 29th to 30th >> or the 30th. So it's presented to you with both dates so that you guys can >> discuss which one is not. >> We can't get closer. See what we get for Christmas. >> I thought we we were approving it and then we had to decide that later. Okay.
You fill in the blank and then adopt. >> Okay. >> I can do either. >> I can do the 30th. >> What would the date? >> The 29th and the 30th. >> What date was this? >> The 29th would be difficult for me unless >> Monday or Tuesday. Got it. Okay. The 30th is good for me.
>> Of this of this one. >> December. >> December. >> Um, >> Tuesday. >> 29th is difficult for me. >> 30th is open. >> That's a 3:30 meeting. >> 3:30.
So it sounds like December 30th, Tuesday. >> I prefer that I have ma on Monday. >> So December 30th. >> December 30th. It is. Now you can now you can >> I made the motion December 3rd to adopt still good with that date and time. >> Who made the motion?
>> I don't remember. >> And who second it? >> Mr. >> Oh yeah, I'm still good. >> Still good. >> Yeah. >> All right. Now you can call the role. >> Ms. Evans. >> Oh, yes. >> M. Tory. >> Yes. Mayor Gilmore. >> Yes. >> Okay. We need approval of business
licenses. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the business licenses for our town. >> Second. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Miss Evans. >> Yes. >> Miss Tory. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore. >> Yes. Comments from the public. Comments
are limited to five minutes. This can be on any subject. >> Yes. Deborah Ply, I think. Good evening again, Deborah Pia, 50 Brooft Lane. Am I allowed to respond to a comment that I heard someone make um a few minutes ago online?
>> You're allowed to talk about anything. >> I I just wanted um uh the gentleman's name, I believe it was Joe, I couldn't hear him too long. He read a statement from Bruce Levenson addressing senior citizen housing. And I just wanted to redirect everyone's attention to the fact that I don't think I heard one
member of the public object to senior citizen housing. Uh the the objection was to the easement and and in fact uh Mrs. Kaine even said if they kept the if they kept all of the uh retention pond on their own property, nobody would
object. Nobody would be here raising an objection to the easement. The objection is to the fact that they're using public lands for private purpose. So I just wanted to redirect everyone's attention to that. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Yes. Dish. Well, the holidays have snuck up on us and as you might may know that uh the township has always honored the veterans on Veterans Day. This year the date was changed to I believe it is November I
know it's a Friday. >> I think it's 21st >> the 21st. >> Yes ma'am. Every year the seniors have provided um you know refreshments mostly um cake
or you know cupcakes and finger >> desserts >> desserts. And this year it was my understanding that the township committee may be able to help us because we usually only provide for like 25 and this year, you
know, there's 25 getting the award. So, they're saying we could have as many as 50. Um, we know I know that somebody has is going to go out and buy some cookies for our group, but I was wondering if there was anybody on this committee that
would be able to help us >> and you can talk about it on yourselves or let me know. >> I'm sure we'll we'll reach back out. >> I'm sure we can work this out. >> Thank you, Tish. >> And you can reach out and let me know so I know how much we have to to do.
>> Whatever you do, it would be greatly appreciated. >> Yeah. All right. All right. Thank you. Have a >> Thanks, Tish. Have a happy Thanksgiving. >> Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks, Tish. >> Yes, ma'am. I see a hand. >> Samantha Leman, 254 Creek Road. When we run for local office, we're not
just campaigning for votes. We're committing to listening to serve and to make decisions that strengthen the place we call home. It's about showing up for our neighbors, for our schools, for our environment, and for the next generation of Hannesport residents. While the official count has not yet been
finalized, the Evans and Loveman campaign holds a steady lead. I would like to thank everyone who contributed to our campaign, and I would also like to thank the residents of Hannesport for getting out to vote. Democracy only works when people actively vote and have choices. Lastly, I'd like to thank Leela
Gilmore and Rick Murphy for campaigning and dedicating their time to Hansport. Thank you. >> Thank you, Sam. >> Yes. Eva Klein, 14 Newport Drive in Hansport. I would just like to say,
please look around the room, folks. You were elected to serve us, the residents of this town. It's not a partisan issue. It's not Democrats and Republicans. It's our home. We all live here together.
Human beings living together trying to make the world a better place. Think about that when you're making your decision about this action with the easement. There's no problem with seniors moving into a community. It's
what we're doing to the land and what we're doing in this perception for us of what you think about us which we have voted to elect you to be here. So, please think about that when you leave
the room and you're in your private session and you're talking about the various facts about this. Think about the residents of this town. I've lived here 23 years and it's been a lovely time. I raised my husband and I have raised our son in this community.
Please think about that. All right. Human beings. We're all humans trying to make this world a good place. And that's all we want to do is keep it a nice place. Please think about that. Thank you. >> Thanks, Eva.
>> Yes, Bob. You're being very polite. I'm letting everybody else go first. >> My dad is watching. Ladies first. >> Bob Mo 202 Lumberton Road, Hannesport. Thank you again, Mayor Gilmore, and the members of the committee for the
opportunity to speak once again. First, for myself, and on behalf of the Hannesport Democrats, I want to congratulate Anna Evans and Samantha Loveman on their election victory. While not technically official, till November 19th, I feel confident for them that with the current count, they have the
election won. I would also like to thank everyone who has helped to support and grow our democratic committee. I look forward to continued participation in the Hannesport community. Lastly, I would like to congratulate and thank Mayor Gilmore for all the years of
service in this town, both in the past and I'm sure in the future. Her support of the environmental commission, her mayor's wellness program, and the veterans task force task force are all project worthy of thanks. I'm sure she's proud of these accomplishments as she
should be. The community owes her their thanks. I feel confident that Mayor Gilmore will continue to be involved in the welfare of the town. Thank you. Thank you, Leela. >> Thanks. >> Anyone else? Yes, ma'am. >> Good evening and thank you for your
time. First of all, um it's my first time to a public hearing before and I appreciate the opportunity. >> We need your name and address. Lisa Cover 13 Cove Court. Thank you. I just um wanted to make a comment on Karen Tory made a statement earlier that the people who spoke here did not have all
of the facts and this is regarding the ordinance of the putting the pipeline through and the environmental damage to uh Rancokus. And so I think it would be very important to have a better understanding of the facts because it seemed to me that the people who did
speak here, they spoke on evidence, laws, and various um environmental impacts. And what you're saying is that people spoke without having accurate facts. >> No, not not everybody. >> Some people um is what you're saying.
>> I imagine that everyone here spoke to the best of their ability based upon the facts that they have. >> Yes. And if you're saying that people do not have accurate facts, I do think you have an obligation to shed a light on what those facts are because this is a very important decision and there are
many people who care very deeply about the Hannesport community. >> I agree. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else in the room? >> But at some point, right? Yeah. No, no, no. >> Seeing none, is there anyone online? There's >> still two people online. I don't know if
they wish to speak. Nope. >> They did not unmute, so I'm assuming they don't have any. >> All right, I'll close public comments. Comments from the administrator. >> Thank you. Uh, a few things. uh want to
let the committee know that I did receive proposals um per our request for from all of our special and our township engineer for the solar and wired lighting project here at the municipal park. Um I did receive all of those last week. So I'll be reviewing them and providing you with a recommendation um
to assign an engineer for that particular project. Um as noted in the engineers report um but for the good of the residents uh there were two DOT grants um outlined in their report uh the fiscical year 24 grant uh the
resurfacing of Pine Alley Emerson Longf Longfellow Melody Lanes uh was awarded in October um to the contractor. So we'll see some movement on that project hopefully in the spring. uh the NJ DOT fiscal year 26 application to DOT was
awarded and again that's for Patriot Way. Um so we're one step closer to that project. Um, I wanted to bring up something that we tried to get on the agenda for tonight, but obviously it's a little bit of an overwhelming agenda and I think it's a growing concern in our community and I
will be requesting you guys to review this at next month's meeting. And that is a proposal from Senator Singleton um for S4736. Um he is the primary sponsor of this um this uh law this request and it preempts local zoning powers and allows
highdensity residential housing at 40 units per acre anywhere in your town as permitted use on top of your already fourth round affordable housing obligation. This is also being presented during a lame duck affordable um lame duck
session um as was last year's affordable housing bill which actually got through in lightning speed. So yes to speak to the concerns of things happening after November. It is also apparent at the state level. Um so the basics S4736 was
introduced on October 27th again by Senator Troy Singleton. Um, this bill has a laudable goal of accelerating the construction of affordable housing in New Jersey by allowing nonprofits and churches to monetize their lands and turn them into housing. But it does so
without regard to existing municipal zoning ordinances. What has everybody on edge? If this becomes law, developers will be able to bypass a municipality zoning board of adjustment. There will be no need for a zoning change. they would be able to develop
anywhere on its property. So, so the developers would be allowed to do the following as permitted uses. Build housing with a 40 unit per acre density. Build housing with heights one story or higher in the highest building in town, higher than the highest building in
town. enter into automatic agreement for pilots, something that normally occurs when an area has been designated an area in need of redevelopment, and build housing that is 80% market rate and 20% affordable. 20% affordable is not a high
enough threshold for a fasttrack bill. It is simply what towns like some towns would require. This bill incentivizes sprawl, overrides local master plan goals, and undermines the need for sort of smart smart growth planning that m makes towns walkable, livable, and
public transportation savvy. But most importantly, this bill ignores the need to protect New Jerseys dwindling open space, as we all talked about tonight, reduce flooding, and protect overstressed natural resources.
So, I do want to bring this to your attention. It is a growing issue in our comm will be an issue in our community and to be to give you an example the approved Randolph estates that would have if this goes through that particular affordable housing process would have never made it to our board for review and approval. So I'll be
presenting this to you next month for you know your consideration. >> Thanks Paula. >> Thank you. And also I just want to congratulate both Anna and Sam and I look forward to working with the 2026 Township Committee. >> Thank you Paula. Thanks. >> Our solicitor.
>> Um, have a great Thanksgiving. >> Thanks, John. >> Thanks, John. >> Right back at you. >> Comments from the committee. This is Evans. Uh, I'm not really in the mood for pretty speeches tonight. Um, so I just
want to say two things. Thank you all for coming and speaking to this issue, which many of us feel very strongly about. You're going to have to come back on December the 9th. And thank you for your vote of confidence in myself and Samman. We will
aim to serve you with transparency and we will aim to listen to you. Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving. >> Okay, Mr. Dick. >> Um, congrats to Anna and Sam and Sam. Uh, and I want to commend Leela and Rick
on a great campaign and to all four of you, including Sam who's new to the committee. Um, thank you for your prior work and for your future work because I know everyone's still going to be a big part of the community. So, I want to look forward to working with everybody um, regardless of how things play out.
Uh couple things. Putting aside uh agenda items, I'm going to ask if anyone wants to help. Um as we've mentioned a couple times, I've been working with Trooper Bowman and a couple of work with Trooper Bowman to work with some of the uh the homeless population in our area
to try to alleviate that problem and get them assistance in in the right way. Um so one of the things I've tried to do is bond with them a little bit to gain their trust. So dropping off things like the one has a cat. So, I've been bringing cat treats. Um, brought some
Halloween candy on Halloween. So, one of the things I'd like to do is drop off Thanksgiving leftovers to a handful of the ones that we've gotten to know a little bit that we're trying to help. Um, couple things with that. One, there's only so many leftovers my family can provide. Um, but also, there's only
so many places I can drive to. So, if anyone would be interested in helping with that, I'd be happy to coordinate it. And just the more basically the more help I get, the more people we can try to reach out to and I'll coordinate that with Trooper Bowman. So you can shoot me an email. You guys know how to find me on Facebook. Cell phone's always available. So that's something that um
I'd like to be able to help a little bit with. Again, it's as much to get them a hot meal as it is to show a little compassion and to reach out and try to help them from the community to help them want our services to help them the right way. Uh secondly, uh Hansport Helps, which is the teen volunteer
program we started uh little a little under a year ago. Um there was a little back and forth and I want to try to uh um put it out there in the public uh what it exactly is and what we're about. So first the whole committee is a part of this even though obviously I've spo
spearheaded it. I'm the one you email and I usually get back to people really quickly. So there's no reason for them to jump in but we are all a part of this. All five of us including Donna and Paula and what have you. So we are all a part of that as a as a committee. The goal of Hannesport Helps is twofold.
It's to help our teens one learn the value of volunteerism. Also to give them some volunteer hours, whether it's National Honor Society or or whatever whatever it is, we want to help them with that because it's harder and harder. And also we we had our inaugural um or first uh Zoom meeting to try to
teach our teens not just to sign up for our volunteer projects, but I'm trying to teach them to start their own how to create what are you passionate about and teach our 15 and 16 year olds. Again, let's help the community in a way that helps, but also and not to make it self-
serving to the team, it's a great assistance for college applications. So, we want to help our teens. We want to help our community. The way we have been picking our projects are some larger town oriented projects that we all agree on. Um, we've done some projects uh in a couple neighborhoods. We just helped
with the micro forest, things like that. also individuals in our in in Hansport. So any resident that is in need of a necessary or semi-necessary household project that's safe and and what have you that we can handle, we would like to
be able to help. What it is not is your everyday activities that we're just going to have these kids go out because one, that's not really the goal of it. Two, I don't think the National Honor Society wants to sign off on that. And three, it just becomes too cumbersome.
So, please get your neighbors send in there. There's the the QR code is all over the place. It's on Facebook. It's wherever. I we would like to be able to help. I have to understand that it has to be something that you kind of need, you know, I mean, like and weeding counts if you can't accomplish that on
your own. We're happy to help when we can. Can't always get to it. But it it can't just be everyday household items that otherwise you would do on your own. So, I want to put that out there because there was some confusion and I want to make sure that I say it out in the public so that it is in the public record. Lastly to that, it's new. This
is going to evolve. So, that may change two years from now. This may be a very different set of rules and that's going to evolve with not just the five of us, but whoever is on the, you know, on the committee next year, the year after, and who's running this after I'm done. Um, so this is going to evolve. So, this may
change 2 years from now, but understand that it is meant to be with the best intentions. Um, and if you have any questions that you're you're happy to I'm happy to answer them. Uh, finally, just a one quick note. Um, Tenacity Fitness, which is a Hannesport um gym on Merry Way, I would like to thank them in
advance. Um, they are donating a ton of their professional training time to work with our buddy Ball program, which is my daughter's program, our daughter's program, also based out of Hanesport at Sacred CYO. They will be hosting a couple of indoor workout sessions for all of our special needs athletes and
their parents for free. Multiple trainers donating their time on a weekend multiple times. So, I do want to put it out there that Tenacity Fitness is the real deal. If you want to work out, go there. Thank you. And happy Thanksgiving. >> Thank you. Haven't they also helped the fire? >> They've helped. Yeah, they they've
offered discounted for the fire. Um Steve is nothing short of he they own um uh what's it called? Tranquility. his parents own tranquility. Um, so they've been phenomenal to the community. I've never >> had him not only say no to me about something, but ask for a nickel in
support. So, he's been wonderful. The they've been wonderful. We work out there. Um, it's been great. So, I do want to give them their credit. >> Thank you, Mr. Montgomery. So, I'd like to um congratulate Anna and Sam on their um
election win and thank Mayor Leela Gilmore, my friend um and Rick for their campaign, but um thank Leela for her longtime service. I'm sure she will still be a friend and be volunteering and working behind the scenes. Um, so,
uh, thank you. And we'll have more time to thank her, uh, the next meeting. Um, cuz a true public servant you are. Um, which is what we do when we we run >> for these positions. I participated in
the, uh, trunk or treat, uh, which was great. We had 40ome. Was it 40? Donna, help me, Lynn. >> How many How many trunks do we have? >> Oh, >> 40ome. at least 40 >> 40ome trunks.
>> All right. Um the committee was there. Uh my trunk was commemorating the country's 250th anniversary for next year. Was a lot of fun. I had 16 pounds of candy and 5 minutes before it ended I had one piece left. So I didn't buy
enough obviously. So uh the kids had a blast. Um it was a lot of fun. So um thank you for all your support. Can't imagine what next year is going to be like. I attended the veterans breakfast. Um Mark Murdy and Rick uh Murphy once again uh prepared breakfast and we had
the recreation department and a number of the committee members there um that participated and helped with that and that's always um a great event. Um and then again we have the veterans day on Friday the 21st. Um Tish had said that.
Um so I'll look forward to attending that as I always try to get there. Um I attended the um Recus Valley watershed um storm water lecture in Mount Holly and um they had asked all the municipalities to just take a look at
some maps and look at some various flooding. We had done this in the past. Um so we're going to continue to contribute to that. I will say because of the growth of and I'm also serve on the uh environmental commission. We each are in separate committees, not only in this committee, but subcommittees
underneath it. And um in my 30ome years living here, just how the growth of the trees whatever was able to absorb a lot of the water where there were high water tables and um by doing the right things and making the right planning, it's it's helped that. So um but I'm sure there
are areas. So, if you do have an area near you that you just just seems really high with water and flooding, um please let us know. Um anyways, we'll be responding to that. Uh I'd like to also thank uh Tenacity Fitness. Uh I also
work out there and my four daughters do as well. um just very generous, always very supportive of Hannesport and uh what they do for the fire department and that was nice to hear that did that they did that on the fitness um scale. Wobble
till you gobble. Hannesport has a turkey trot. Yay. A trot is not necessarily a run or a jog. It could be a walk. So it's 5K. It's 8:30.
Thanksgiving morning. So, we're all off. Thank God. Can get up. You can come to Hannesport. We can walk around the Arbor Trail around Deacon Road behind oldtime Hannesport and come around. Is only $15. It's it's
it's um someone else does it. The committee doesn't do this. This is another that we brought to the town. Um so, it's a great great thing. My whole family does this with me. Uh, I'm gonna try to run trot. I will be trotting. And anyway, just encourage people to do
that. You can still sign up for that. Um, let me see. Other than that, um, I think we talked enough about that. I so care about our environment very much. I really appreciate everyone being here and expressing their concerns and their
passions. And it it's really difficult to know everything. It is. And and I know Karen, she did not mean that all everything you said was wrong. It's that's not the case. But there were some facts that were not correct and we don't know everything. So a lot of things that
you brought up, we appreciate and we'll be exploring this. Again, um this is this is what we do. You know, it it goes over time. Um and it's a long time to get this done. So we'll be further investigating that. So, I appreciate you all coming out and your concern and your love for our great town as we love it as
well. Um, so thank you. Um, have a happy blessed Thanksgiving and uh, God bless our little town of Hannesport and God bless America. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Mrs. Tory. Yes, I would like to thank all of you
for coming and I really look forward to the appropriate time when we can have our discussions and get all your answers to the questions that you have and more information to you. Um, Facebook is not the place to do this because this is such a complicated issue that's been
going on for years before I started then my two years on the Jay Love board and when I was running I sat on every meeting. So, I've really been watching all the developments for the three years, listening to the professionals, um, trying to deal with these issues.
So, I look forward to the time when you do get all your answers. I I I really do. But in the meantime, Andy and I have worked so hard this year as liaison to the fire company, and we're so happy that we have an agreement with the fire company that we're getting a new truck, and we are on the way to supporting our
fire company with the administration. And that's a wonderful thing that happened this year >> here. >> So um as liaison to the recck department um not only am I liaison but Donna has me involved in every one of these activities. So in serving
the residents of Hannesport which you do really really mean a lot to me. I know why I'm here. I'm not a politician. I'm here to serve. So I just like you to know some of the things that that has been going on in the past month. So, as part of the mayor wellness campaign,
we had the vets breakfast that we were all involved in and it was wonderful. Um, we have started a mental health Leela has started a mental health um initiative when we're going to try to identify people in the community of all ages that may need a little bit of help. We're
working hard on that. Um on Saturday the we have set up a um senior connection for lunch and for our senior citizens over at the Christian Faith Assembly Church at 1:00 and these are for any se senior citizens at all that
want to come and express your ideas, your needs, your concerns for the community. We just want to help you. We want to reach out, find you, identify you, and see what we can do to help you. So, as the trunk and treat went very, very well as um everybody had everybody
can attest to that. So, that's really good. Yesterday, we had a recreck department Christmas trip. Um we went out out to Lancaster to the American Music Theater, the Deck the Hall show. It was fabulous, and we thank Donna and the recck department for setting that up for us, and we hope more people will
enjoy it because it was sold out. It was absolutely wonderful. Um let's see. So, as you know, the Veterans Day celebration has been moved to the 21st, and that's because the New Jersey Department of Military and Veteran
Affairs will be presenting um our veterans, 22 of them, with the medals, and we thank you, Mike, for all you're doing to initiate that. Um the first responders event was held on 10:28, and that was very nice to recognize all our responders. I am sorry
that I missed it. I was on vacation with the family. So, coming up, we're all going to the municipal league of uh municipal league conference next week in um Atlantic City so we can learn some things in order to serve you better. Um
the ladies auxiliary has their b their which I am a member now has been keeping me very busy as well. So, we are they are having their bingo this Saturday and it's sold out, but they are having a murder mystery dinner on um January
31st. Tickets are $60 right at the firehouse. So, it's for Mury um murder mystery night. It should be fun for everybody. So, I hope you guys all look forward to that. Watch for more information on that. So we are also working on the activities
for December which is so busy. We have our tree lighting which will be held on December 5th. December 11th is our carolling night. Um this year we are having um the house decorating contest
and the theme will be Hannesport Lights Up Gingerbread Edition. Um on the 13th is our holiday event. We are not having the gingerbread contest that day. We are going to decorate cookies and we will have some entertainment and that's a nice another
nice thing. Um I'm sure Don is looking at me thinking I know you probably forgot something but there seems to be so much going on. But um oh and Copetis has their toy drive this Saturday. The veterans are collecting coats first of all at the Ken Kenneth Street Center
from 10 to 12. So any brand new coats we're collecting cloaks coats to donate then. Um and then >> coats and coats cloak cloaks cloaks and cloak >> cloaks easy for you to say cloaks and coats and then um Copsetta has his
annual um toy drive and that's from 10 to 2 I believe. So um drop off coats, drop off um toys and the Boy Scouts are also collecting um canned goods that day. So, if you've gotten your little bag on your door, don't forget to help
them. Um, >> do it again for >> Saturday. Everything's Saturday. >> Saturday. Yeah. >> Coming up. >> So, um, I hope that I caught everything, Donna. I'm sorry if I missed anything. >> So, okay. So, that's it. So, I'd like to
wish you all a very happy Thanksgiving. God bless you. >> God bless Hannesport. God bless America. Thank you, >> Mrs. Tory. According to AARP, and I want everyone to know because you invited senior citizens, but according to AARP,
that means over the age of 55. >> 55. >> You're considered a senior citizen. >> 55. >> 55. >> I'll get there one day. Before we close tonight, I want to take a
moment to acknowledge the recent election and congratulate Ann Sam. >> Thank you. >> Well, the results weren't exactly what I had hoped for. I am grateful
for the continued opportunity to serve this wonderful community and I am proud to remain your mayor until January and I will continue to work for the town
that I love. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> And now I would like to ask you >> for a motion and a second to pay the bills. >> I make a motion that we pay our bills. >> Second hand.
>> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Miss Z. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gilmore. >> Yes. >> So I understand we have an exe. >> We do have a close session. If I could ask the committee to add to the list of two things that are anticipated litigation and contract negotiations. Number three would be matters falling
within the attorney client privilege. And number four is an update on the potential acquisition of property. >> So we need a motion to amend the agenda. Can we put those >> Okay. So can I have a motion to agend? >> I make a motion that we we add those two items to the agenda.
>> Second. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dick. >> Yes. >> Miss Evans. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tory. >> Yes. Mayor Gilmore. >> Yes. >> Now, may I have a motion to enter into executive? >> Yeah. I would say uh in terms of time um
Friday morning >> could be I would say at least an hour hour and probably 90 minutes. >> 90 minutes. >> You got quite I might need to use the restroom. >> Yeah, >> maybe >> we'll give you a pass. A whole pass.
>> Rule start. So, resolution 2025-162-11. Could I have a motion, please? >> So, moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> Mr. Montgomery. >> Yes. >> Mr. M. Tory. >> Yes. >> M. Deans. >> Yes. Mr. Deck. Mayor Gilmore. >> Yes. >> Yeah. All yes. All in favor.
Okay. Uh, can I have a motion to re-enter? >> Motion to re-enter. Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. So, >> so these are the MO. I can't find my agenda. >> Do we need resolution? >> You pulled it out. >> So, the resolution on your agenda,
what's what's the resolution number? >> It's 225 163-11. >> 125163-11 resolution. >> Okay. I would ask that the committee adopt the version of resolution 163-11
which provides for a rejection of both of the most recent bids as um excessive um rejects the garden state bid from being non-compliant and um authorizes the administrator to
go out to bid again for a third time. >> So moved. Second. Second. >> U. >> Do we all need to be in favor? >> All in favor? >> Yeah. I'm sorry. >> No worries. Just trying to help. >> Um, >> thank you.
>> With regard to Lilo's Pizza, uh, a motion authorizing the filing of suit as discussed in executive session would be in order. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? I
>> I >> And then there was just two other items discussed in close session and a motion to proceed uh for staff to proceed as discussed in close session. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I
>> You're pretty close, John. >> A motion to adjurnn. >> Some move. So move. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Good night, everybody. >> Good night. Good night. >> We're all worried about trees. >> Yep.
>> Freaking trees worth of paper. >> Yep. >> Your your husband's almost home. >> Is she taking them home? >> I assume so. >> She brought him out of there. >> I Oh, I I Okay. She was on Eastn Way when I double checked. >> Oh, good. So now either that or she's just cruising
>> cuz I was going to I was getting ready to call him and say I was getting ready to call him and say um um you have to come home. >> I'll come at you. >> Yeah. Well, they had their chance to
have it. She had a couple bourbons.