##VIDEO ID:Y1i99swAXpM## good okay uh please rise for the flag Sal I pledge allegiance the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all in the event of an emergency all people may exit right or left from this room and proceed to an exit door all doors will open from the inside New Jersey open public meetings law was enacted to ensure the right of the public to have advanced notice of and to attend the meetings of public bodies at which any business affecting their interests is discussed or acted upon in accordance with the provisions of this act the hailen Board of Education caused notice of this meeting to be published in the north North Jersey record Herald News the board's official newspaper on January 10th 2024 notices of this meeting indicating date time and place were posted publicly on the door of the main entrance to the school and filed with the clerk in the municipality of haon roll call please Mr bosi Mr K pres m dor here Mr Guzman here Mr Martinez Mr moxo here Mr Ramadan here Dr WB here Mrs here okay can I have a motion to accept correspondence so move moved by Mr Moo seconded by Mr Dr web roll call please Mr aasi yes Mr Keta yes m c yes Mr Gman yes Mr marxel yes Mr Ramadan yes Dr web yes MRSA yes can I have a motion to accept prior minutes second was that Dr web yes uh second by Dr second by Mr Mo roll call please Mr yeah Mr Mr yes mrman Mr moel yes Mr Ramadan web yes Mr yes okay can I have a motion to open the floor to Citizens on agenda items only second move by Mr seconded by Mr matro roll call please oh all in favor okay the floor is open uh to Citizens on agenda items only nobody okay all right G have a motion to close motion appose second moved by Mr Gman seconded by Mr Ramadan all in favor I okay okay on to reports soing everyone thank you for taking time to join us on this lovely evening at the end of summer even if it's just us it's okay uh first I want to thank Mr Morgan our middle middle school social studies teacher eth grade advisor and Junior Honor Society advisor for several years of service um service and dedication to helden public school and especially to our eth grade students as the last year at HPS where many of our graduates have spent most of their school years up to this point 8th grade is so important academically and socially those teachers have the responsibility to instill in their students for one last year the skills and values will carry with them into high school and use as a foundation for their adult lives yes this is what our teachers do starting in prek but eighth grade teachers play a special role in that final formation here at HPS and it's crucial to our kids' success as they leave our Halls having worked with Mr Mr work Mr Morgan for a few years in my role as PTA president planning 8ighth grade end of year activities I know that he put a lot of effort and Care into making a a wonderful and meaningful experience for our students so on behalf of the helden Board of Education we thank Mr Morgan and wish him the best in his future endeavors uh secondly with the Board of Education elections coming up in November and campaig and getting underway I want to remind everyone that as per policy 3233 SL 4233 no campaigning of any form may take place on school property or at events taking place on school property and I wish all the candidates good luck and that is my report uh so I will turn it over now to our chief School administrator Mr WKA thank you board president Isa um I also want to comment on the Mr Morgan yes you know we're we're we're happy that he's moving on to high school I know that a lot of people that are aspiring Poli he helps to have both the middle school and the high school experience um so we wish him the best um and he did a lot of things were really good for our school and our kids so back um we got some construction updates um the playground uh they're going to start working on the playground later this week uh they put a lot of the apps already here they're going to tear up the playground uh and then the following week they're going to be putting a new playground in uh it's scheduled to be done before the first day of school starts um but we're looking forward to having that project start I'm really happy that we were able to find this kind of goldilock Zone um between where summer school ended and then where the new school year started get that and then the main construction you you you kind of it's hard not to walk by and see you know how much has gotten done we got kind of an optimistic report today it looks like we're slightly ahead of where we're scheduled that's really really good news uh the rooms that were lost last year because of the construction going on above uh some of them have already been moved into other ones the next couple days custodians are are fitting those rooms with desks and the learning materials and things like that um so it looks like probably mid October once we get a little closer we'll we'll kind of find consensus for a day we could all get together for you know the ribbon cutting when when we're finally done with it um and then I know that you know we this board look into the services many preschoolers um so at that point we you know probably like that last week of October the first week of November uh we'll do we did last year and open up yet another preschool section um and that's funded by the state so it's not you know affect the property tax like that but you know there was times where when I was at the principal school when there was 30 kids that were able to receive U preschool and now it's going to be about 105 um so that's a that's great that this board was able to do that um I saw that um Captain and board former board president current board member George Guzman and I are going to be presenting a workshop at the uh New Jersey School Board Association uh effective Partnerships between law enforcement and U the school PL and school districts uh so Tuesday morning at 11: we have the floor and I know George and I are looking forward to setting that up and we're also excited because fingures cross George um is an application has been submitted on his behalf um for the New Jersey Board member of the year so that would be a nice exacted hit those at the workshop um the um we we talked I think during my evaluation about the board desire to see a little more academic data um so I met with the uh our academic coach for three times throughout the year at BO meting we'll schedule this Advance uh but maybe like two or three weeks after our teachers get the presentation but here's what our Benchmark data is is is showing us uh to give a board specific presentation board meetings so the community can kind of be you know on that same page that you guys have requested um we have our meet the teacher night that's been a tremendous success since we started it we the amount of little children that are crying the first day of school has been reduced by 8,000% because of that idea the teachers do a great job so that's going to be the night before the first day of school um and then uh you'll also see in your board agenda the professional development calendar um that was also in response to the my evaluation you know the Bo requested you know we want to see what our PD is doing throughout the year so there there's that I P worked hard to put that together so I thank her um I know that there's a on the agenda there's a a proposal for an August 24th like a a local community member giving away school supplies which is something we want to support um there there's some uh idea that was going to be moved to the 25th it's it's going to be the 24th or it's going to be the 24th that's that's you know what we're that's what we're going to have to do that's Bo's approving um so I'm hopeful that stays that way we do always want to encourage local people that have you know philanthropy in their hearts to to get back the kids and I know I'll be there that day to help out as well uh we have our new teacher orientation on Wednesday my birthday so we get to meet all the new haen Public School teachers um and I know Miss Miller and the the rest of her team do a great job with that and then the last thing is just um you know we our policy committee met and a lot of them were kind of you know pretty much forward policy or revisions uh then there's the one policy that was created by the I believe Omar was the author of it from the that committee uh so I'm sure you guys uh may want to discuss that at some point meeting and that's my report any questions from Mr W thank you Mr W um moving on to our business administrator um Miss Ron thank you mad president I just want to remind the board members that we are scheduled to go to the New Jersey school boards um convention October 21st to the 24th so if there are any changes any registration changes or accommodation changes please let us know in advance because we can get a refund we need to add on and make it as early as possible so we would definitely appreciate that even if you're staying for two days or three days or days let know in advance the earlier we know the better we can kind of get everybody Set uh we have a few items that I wanted to um note on the finance side even though 8.1 is not part of Finance I just want to make a note that the um Moon Zoom is going to be coming out of Esser funds so we did make that change prior to the initial agenda that went out so we did trying to grap up all the s funds you know by September 30th so we were able to find the Avenue to use those funds for this particular subscription and I also believe on 8.2 we're all we're using S funds for the PD we do have some s funds left for to teachers to take a professional um development training with Will pis University so that's what we're using those funds 12.1 is our idea application this year the board was granted basic funds of 267,000 which primarily go SCH to tuition and then we have the preschool funds of 12789 and that will be split between salaries instructional supplies and benefits 12.9 on the agenda is Real Time information system this is training that is given to the new staff a refresher to our existing staff on Real Time modal specifically the five or4 plans and any type of um um training that can help the staff utilize the system to its full capacity we have our um joint Transportation at 12.10 is the per Dam rate with um Manchester um school this is every year we and this is a per Dam rate in case there a service that's needed with Manchester um what invoices them for however many trips and this is outside of their our HBS priority of Transportation um 12.11 we're establishing a petty cash on fund for certified Angels there is a need for it because they were using the active school um Penny cast so we feel like because of the activity we need both um programs to have their own pedy cast so we'll be certifying this every year we're approving 12.12 for our construction 12.13 is our official depositories um for we're changing the signatures on our bank account to add our Treasures of SCH money and we have our official fees for 12 14 which is our athletic official fee for sports events and 12.8 commentary student accident insurance and just to clarify we have student accident Insurance who sponsor school events so this voluntary application is for parents additional coverage outside of the school day or any SP to event so just so that there's a distinguish between we do cover our students while they're in school or if there's event outside of the event if parent wants to get some additional coverage they can do so that's it for me there's any questions questions okay thank you m okay so uh moving on to personnel and management Mr goodsman agenda okay curriculum and Technology Dr web agenda policy and public relations Mr aasi um so yeah there was a policy committee today which uh I missed I did leave some notes for so if uh Mr coleta wants to say anything regard to that I'll defer to him um but um well we have AAL we have agenda item 9.2 today really just to discuss a draft bylaw that we put together um regarding remote participation um so there's there's really uh if you guys had a chance to read through it um if not we can just discuss it um as it comes up uh in the agenda otherwise nothing else I'll defer to Mike if he wants to say anything regarding the policy committee meeting over just we had a productive policy meeting we had a couple questions regarding the new policy we appreciate that you put so much effort in and did such a great job coming up with something that was pretty much it everything else genda thank you um um security and safety Mr Gman um I have something but I'll bring it up on okay uh Community engagement Mr aasi nothing for report okay and finance and phisical plant mras mosow uh we met went over the bills other than that agenda items okay uh for state and County uh so the P County School Board Association has set its meeting schedule for the 24 25 school year so unfortunately their first meeting in September conflicts with our meeting um but the December meeting doesn't conflict and when we're doing our meetings for the coming year uh we should take into consideration the the dates for the county meeting so that we can avoid that as much as possible you know conflicting having conflicting dates um so that that's that um the New Jersey school board association's fall labor Summit um is coming up on October 1st that is before the workshop so that's just like a comprehensive one day event and they cover things like um governmental relations and legislative update legal update data data labor update um negotiating contract and public relations surrounding Labor Relations so that's October 1st if anybody's interested in attending that and you do get free credits for that um and then lastly if you are interested board members in providing testimony regarding New Jersey's educator evaluation system the New Jersey educator evaluation preview task force is holding a virtual meeting uh virtual hearing on Wednesday August 28th from 4 to 6 um to gather input from various stakeholders including board members um so the deadline to register for that is August 26th and the details can be an email that was sent from Timothy Perell who's the executive director of the New Jersey School Board Association um I believe it was August 15th that that that was sent out so uh that's that's it for for state and County um any questions okay U Mr Marino anything for no report tonight okay thank you all right then let's go up to uh personnel and management Mr Gman like to move items 7.1 to 7.7 second okay moved by Mr Gman seconded by Dr web roll call please Mr aasi yes Mr Kad yes Mr yes Mr Gman yes Mr moxo yes Mr Ramadan yes Dr web yes and Mr yes okay technology Dr web before I make motion i' would like to uh Echo the statement by our president in regards to the professional development plan being laid out for the entire school year I think that I'd like to move 8.1 through 8.6 I speak I know Mr Mr sorry Mr Abasi email me today to ask me to speak about the William Patterson Professor residence agreement uh that's something we've probably done for the last seven or eight or nine years um it's I think it's 10,000 or 12,000 or something like that um they do is they send a professor to to work with our whatever goals we're looking to meet that particular year um or years um for our school so you've seen like when you walk in you'll see like the lockers are painted with with books that was from something from that uh we did that that the drum thing you were at that one year with that so uh every every year we've had so many new teachers since Co that we we've had them help a lot acclimating new teachers to the profession uh but that's been a a pretty good home run for us and that also involves the student teachers that come from William Patterson right yes so we get a we get a nicer table with the recruits you know that helps uh so that was moved by Dr web and did somebody second okay seconded by Mr Mo roll call please Mr aasi yes but I abstain from 8.6 Mr C yes M CAD yes Mr Gman yes Mr Moo yes Mr Ramadan yes Dr W yes M yes okay uh policy committee Mr yeah I'd like to move items 9.1 and 9.2 second okay mov by Mr Abasi seconded by Mr MCO uh do we want to have discussion first or do we just want to discuss as we vote so the draft what does that mean everybody why don't Mr Abasi why don't you go through the draft did everybody receive this slow sent it on uh she sent it today I believe um Mr BOS if you want to go through the draft uh sure so it's a it's a two-page policy put together using um some other documentation and other policies that are in place in other districts as a as a backdrop for it um regarding remote participation um at board meetings so um I'm looking the examples today for you all um so just one noting it's the responsibility of board members to try to be there physically in person if you're not able to so I put in the Preamble section about um if it's something that the entire Board of Ed has to do in the event of a public health care natural disaster state of emergency that doesn't count against the instances that are referred to in this policy um so this recognizes that board members will have stuff come up maybe they're out of state for work maybe they have a medical emergency wherever it may be where they might have to participate remotely so we're not you know going to make that difficult in any way but just essentially there's a few rules associated with it that we would like board members to try to abide by as much as possible first you know you have to 24hour Prior notice I saw other policies that was 48 hours 72 hours but I think um sometimes stuff can creep up pretty late so a 24-hour notice um to the board president and the board secretary and administrator uh board president has to approve um if you'll be counted towards the um you you've got to have your microphone on your full name when you log in uh a place where there's no disruption so right now I'm in my work office alone I actually have to turn on the lights for the entire building um because I got here late uh you're gonna you have to be able to participate in all comments questions and you're going to expect it to vote and everything um as normal um and then uh really the kicker is number eight um we're trying to limit it as much as possible so three times within a calendar year we don't really discuss and that there's I put in built an exception if there's medical conditions um that cause you to miss more than three we don't really discuss what a penalty would be I I don't know how to uh address that but just really best effort um try to attend and then and and nine is the other kicker so eight and nine are really the crust of the whole um policy nine would be if there's an executive session we don't know what's going on around you we don't know who else can see um we don't know who else can hear your audio um it's an executive session so for that purpose if you're on remote and the board goes into executive session you're basically going to abstain from voting and you can't participate in it um unless you're there in person and then there's a a section basically saying the board will and the you know all the arrangements will be in place and you know to allow you to participate um via remote op um so that's really the the the whole the entire outline of the policy I would say this is a draft version um we we if it's adopted here tonight I send it to um our attorney Mr Maro to take a look at it make sure nothing that's crazy maybe we send it to um stress out right stress out as well um let them and maybe to get an actual policy number associated with it because right now it's just a bunch of x's up there what the actual number would be so i' say we proove a draft we have opportunities to adjust to make make changes um we take whatever changes you guys have into consideration whatever our attorney comes back with as well and um maybe the next meeting we to adopt something more formal great thank you Mr aasi yes go ahead um Mr Gman um question I yeah that's what Mr Abasi just said so you know we would we would need to decide if we want to include here like some kind of what's the sense of a policy there's no penalty yeah well wait you do have another policy that says that if you miss three meetings you can be removed from the board so I think I think your PO your consequences that any any above three would not be permissible and then your absences would be unexcused and then would count towards that other policy yeah and I was I was was going to mention that Mr Molino and also you know but we want the language to say it can be grounds for dismissal it doesn't mean that automatically you're going to be dismissed come down to a go anyway yeah it can be grounds for dismissing that that would be like a potential you know penalty uh for violating this policy right so we we could include that so that's one suggestion right so one suggestion is to include language about a penalty um which you know makes sense I agree with you Mr Gman you know if we have a policy there has to be um there has to be some kind of uh consequence if the policy is violated and 24 24 hours in advance I know some all board members here very busy is everyone comfortable with the 24 hours maybe 12 48 how about if we suggest like that the by before 12 noon of the day of the meeting would that be something those would that be because I think by 12 noon you should know if you're going to come or not right so and you should be able to let your your fellow board members or you know let Lois know so that you know it's happened before that we we come to the meetings and we don't have a quarum and we have to wait you know so and we kind of like you know holding our breath to if we're going to have a quorum so I I think 12 noon is reasonable what what does everybody think the policy says you know someone wants to go REM require one president to appr right um 2 hours is I don't think that's think like well you know I'm open to yeah so by 12 pm day of on the day of the meeting yeah what is everybody is everybody okay with that um well you wrote up another thing Mr Gman like to have board approval we were talking about this in the committee meeting um so if if we're saying that you can only attend three meetings um virtually um I don't think it's necessary to request my approve the or the board president's approval if it's if you're within those three once you go beyond those three then you know because we have an exception here right for medical condition if you want to request an approval and you're beyond the three then yes I think it should require board approval a board president approval but otherwise I don't necessarily think that the board president needs to approve it um if you're within those three those are just my thoughts does anybody have any thoughts on you're also looking at the reason that's why you're it so if someone contacts you and say I need to go or do this okay you're looking at the reason and say okay that's a valid reason to go that's why I see what so it would be either like one of these three things that's mentioned in the second paragraph like a medical condition um you have to be out of state or an unforeseen emergency okay all right I understand another thing too is instead of it policies and writing will be adopted by the board so we want to make sure we those right um our request require prior our request require the pr theard President right board president or perhaps can add an absence the board president the board vice president I how about available something that Happ you know okay that makes sense um if I may suggest maybe the idea that like only for regularly scheduled board meetings like say there's something that comes up right because the last minute board meeting just for whatever crazy reason like it would be nice to have that yeah yeah that's true we we've had to we've had to like change sched meting happen often but in October everyone in here is a volunteer so you know I appreciate um us doing this I really do because I think it's going to make us a lot more St away more organized but we have to realize that we're still all volunteers very busy so I think have to find that balance yeah absolutely it's not meant um to be you know punitive in any way you know it's it's meant to just kind of you know make sure that we're cohesive and we're you know present and we're you know doing doing you know what we're supposed to be doing for sure I have a question so with all the stipulation regarding turning your mic on turning your camera on not being able to vote at the executive session having it only happen three times would it look too bad if we extended at to five I think that's a lot well this is this is a question I think you know we uh go ahead Mr GL uh along those lines I echoing what husband was saying and Dr web um potentially I know when we first spoke about it when it came up the first time we talked about a number consecutive in a row rather than a hard number because as well as tensioned as it is like you said there are just sometimes where things come up I think it's more likely that things will come up rather than you know back to back to back weeks in a row where you know if you can't come four weeks in a row you have there's an issue versus if you know there are times where it might be five you you know you know Dr we just had B there's times where it might be five it might be you don't want it to be that but and I think everybody here definitely takes it seriously so it potentially my suggestion would be can we potentially look at rather than what are the consequences of voting on it tonight versus maybe taking what we have adding the suggestion and sending to Mr Marino to because again even with it's great way more work than I put into it obviously he did a great job um reads well but they're definitely it would be best I would think for the attorney to look through just to make sure the language is right and then whatever suggestions we decide they say hey maybe no more than two in a row without approval maybe maybe it's no more than one in a row without approval but you know just I think it is hard when everybody is volunteer and we live in a crazy world and things do just pop up unfortunately a lot everybody has kids everybody has responsibility so that's just my suggestion yeah and and to your point Mr Keta um I what I don't want is a policy that's so stringent that we're going to be constantly having to make exceptions because then that policy really becomes you know um ineffective so I I I mean I think we should today tonight is just um first reading on it tonight I think we should take all of these suggestions and maybe um I think you know with some notes send some notes back to to Mr Abasi and the policy committee and maybe you guys do a second draft and also including Mr Marino's um input and and do like a second draft for our September meeting and we do a second reading but I I yeah I think one of the suggestions is reconsidering the three um to either putting it up to like either a hard number of five increasing it or to doing it like uh you can't have more than two consecutive or you can't have more you can't have two consecutive don't one you know that that's an option too so um those are suggestions and I'm actually just taking notes now as we're talking so I can send those to you know to you you and um to you and Lois um and actually I'll send it to the policy committee I'll send it to the policy committee I'll send it to you Mr Abasi and then you can you know you and ra Mr Martinez and Mr Keta can work on a second tra um does anybody else have any questions or want to discuss any other part of the policy while we're talking about it I actually did have a couple of questions um so I did want to clarify that the point number nine with the uh so not being included in the executive session and I think that's an important Point as Mr Abasi pointed out um but it said that um so the board member who first will be excluded from the executive session but does that mean that they're going to be logged off or are they going to just listen um because then it says later that they're going to update they'll obstain so I was a little unclear on that could you clarify what you meant by that Mr aasi the way I understood it from the other meeting from the other policy that I was um taking this off of as an example was no they because we don't know who else is in the background potentially or who else may be listening to the audio in its executive session maybe sensitive stuff there I understood it as and so maybe we can clarify if that's what everybody wants that they would be excluded from it alog together and officially their vote would be as abstained okay but it would still count towards cor yeah okay that's that's what I thought too but I just wanted to clarify so yeah excluded meaning they're basically going to be like put in the waiting room or like logged off um and then their official vote would be stain okay yeah that that's that's what I that's what I thought does anybody have any concerned about that part um okay president because I think one of the one of the conditions if you notice one two three four there's there's saying you have to be in area privacy has to be there and you have to be there so this kind of work with the l number nine because again we're mandating the person to be kind of in a in a in a room avoiding distractions nobody in the background so we're saying this already so I don't honestly I don't think it's a problem staying listening yes no well what's going on you could know so you have an idea what's happening but again as far as when it comes to voting as we stop busing indicating you don't have that okay okay go ahead Mr bosi were you g to comment on that yeah so I I was going to like so just giving my example my situation now I'm in my office alone there's no there's no distractions around me currently so participate in the meeting but I can't control somebody being on my door with their ear up against the door listening to the conversation um so I could participate really without distraction in the regular meeting but executive session especially if there's something of sensitive nature I can't prevent someone from overhearing unless I have you know unless I use a headphone if we want to do something like that where where you can ensure Only You audio um that would be the the way to get around that but then it then it becomes an issue of like well how do we know for sure and of course you know we have to use the you know the um trust policy here but like uh honor System but um it might just keep things simpler if we just said you're excluded you know um I mean that might be something that comes down to a vote you know yeah go ahead hey Jeff um what are most boards doing in terms of that specific issue so so the code of ethics that you've all agreed to says that you if you participate in executive it's gonna have to be confidential so you've sworn that so your your obligation your duty is to make sure that it's confidential um and that and so that would pertain you know goes beyond this so you know if the board does decide to allow executive sessions by Zoom um you still have that obligation to be confidential um and if you violate it it's a it's a code of ethics violation well that one may come down because I kind of I I agree with Mr Basi I feel like if you're virtual you shouldn't be able to you should be excluded from that portion of the meeting but I mean you know you may have we may have different opinions so I think need that vot too right that's what well what is it you have the doctrine of necessity right at that point Maro if they need the vote if they need yeah well to to be honest with you you almost never vote in executive session so it's it's it's not it's not really that that's really not an issue wait I'm sorry I missed that could you say that again you're almost never what there's you never vote in executive session we have to take all action in public so that that would not be the issue but if they come out and vote and they have to abstain and they don't have enough votes then what happen see see that so if you abstain from executive you still have should still be obligated to come back in the public to take any action so somebody that is is virtual would have to abstain from the executive but stay stay in the meeting overall and then come back when the executive is done but they wouldn't if they were asked to vote they wouldn't be informed on what they were voting on that's the issue oh Madam president sorry I um I know like we said the purpose of this is to keep it so that we're all on the same page I think it does kind of serve as a deterrent to doing if you AR un ineligible to vote if you do the executive section for Zoom it could be one of those things that keeps people like again so it's not Abus like hey if it is you're unfortunately you're excluded you can participate the rest of the meeting that's something then like hey these are issues that you wanted to be on the board you want to be involved you you know then you have to make the effort to be here first so just just another I I I like the idea be exective session should be a person um but let's just remember Mr mol you can confirm this if the board memb is virtual going to Executive come out to executive take formal action roll calls triggered that board member could still vote Yes or no you know what I mean right you know so it's and then they wouldn't have the benefit of having heard the conversation and but they can still Nothing is Stopping them from voting yes or no like you can't you can still vote Yes or No it is what it is I mean the right thing for that board member to do is to obain right right but maybe you do need that V to take action that's that's good you know but I say my personal opinion is I agree 100% Mr it's an executive session should be person come action the and truth be told we don't really have that many executive sessions you know um so I I I think we let's think of policy committee think about this okay take in all of this feedback and um and also you know what Mr Molino said and and think about it and then it'll come down to a vote I I my gut reaction is that I think you should be here and I think if you're not here virtually you should be excluded that's my gut reaction but it does complicate things that you know if we were to have to vote um you know and that person didn't have the benefit of hearing the conversation they're going to be you know and and they don't want we need the vote let's say they don't want to obain that's problematic but um I mean I guess we could address this policy Mr Molina the policy could address just like the um obviously no policy can address every single possible scenario right so this the policy would be valid if it addressed most scenarios right right right and and so maybe and like I I mentioned before the code of ethics so a lot of districts have hybrids so a lot of districts have done something similar and I seen the most number nine just said referring back to the code of ethics and if there's a violation everybody can see it so if everybody sees you on zoom and you're in executive and and you hear it and these meetings are recorded so you know if you if somebody hears somebody else in the room um it's a it's a pretty easy to prove a violation of the code of ethics so you know that might be the consequence um okay thank you um and I had one other question um see uh the in the last well actually two things but the the um the part about um it's this next to last paragraph where it says in addition the electronic equipment must permit the board president to recognize the board member to make comments ask questions vote and fully participate in the board meeting as if the board member was present at the meeting did you Mr obasi were you referring to something like the you know raise your hand icon or something like that like the the equipment must allow whatever platform we're using what did you mean by that physical equipment that you have in the room that allows me to hear you the microphone you can hear me like it's it's there it's not just just off of one person's phone like so we are set up since the hybrid whole situation started since Co so that's just it's just a technicality but we already have that kind of regularly at our meetings it's what allows the public to join via Zoom every time got it okay right we're lucky we already have that set up so okay good um and then the other thing the last paragraph I think there's a there might be a typo here it says um the last sentence um unless I misunderstood this the board member requesting participation in a board meeting through the use of an electronic device shall participate in the entire public meeting under the conditions outlined in this policy and cannot participate in the selected portions of you is it should it say the nonpublic meetings no that's basic I'm I'm going to listen to the first half an hour or go do my own thing for 20 minutes and come back and catch the end of the meeting like I have to be here the entire meeting I can't just do it for selected portions of the meeting it's not up to my discretion I if I'm going to be virtual be counted as hey I was at the meeting I have to be here for the entire meeting and not just selected portions of it that's that's how I understood the intent of that okay maybe that part can be and I can I can look at it too maybe that can be like a little tweak because that was a little unclear to me I don't that was unclear to anybody else if you rewrite it just like he said it if he rewrites just like he said it that' be a little easier to okay I'm gonna go back and read it okay so we're paying attorney a lot of money to make sure he sends the right message yeah okay so what I'm going to do is I'm going to take all of what what I noted here all of the feedback that um you know I I heard here and I'm going to send it to the policy committee um but I would suggest if anybody body else has any additional thoughts on this that you um Mr Rino can they email the the policy committee directly yes than individual can an individual board member email the policy committee directly or should they just email one person not if you're on it because it'll be five then right oh so it'll be okay so maybe just email um Mr aasi or if you have any addal comments How about if um with the camera on and everything how about you know sometime Zoom people put their picture on there is that allow well this didn't even specify camera on saying camera should be don't know says umy use of an electronic device let's see I heard it say on and everything I saw um I just saw like audio I didn't see anything about the camera because I actually made a note about that um see where is it yeah it's number four I think number four okay okay so it says the board member will be visible so I guess that implies that your screen is on is that right yeah theer be on I guess I could put up a picture of myself and that would be visible yeah illustration know every every board member here is it's good but we don't know what's going to happen down the line yeah yeah okay so you know what if anybody else has any additional um feedback just email me and then I'll share it with the policy committee um but otherwise I will send the policy committee these notes and then you can do h a second draft and we'll get it again in in September um so I guess what would we say that we're going to table 9.2 um no you could you can still do this as a first reading because it's not effective it's not effective until you do a second reading I make a motion to adopt this policy Madam president the changes so moved okay so I'm so sorry I I missed that because I Wasing to M Aug Mr you said that we can we can accept it as a draft yes because it would be a first reading so it's not effective it's not in effect but this would count as your first reading okay all right that's um and then miss Augustin did point out that we need to say in the policy when this will take effect so you know I guess if we specify like upon approval I think take offense upon approval okay all right so okay so let me do this again um as policy committee I'd like to move items 9.1 and 9.2 noting that 9.2 is the first reading um and does not take in effect until a final draft is approved in future in a future agenda item okay so moved by Mr aasi seconded by Dr web roll call please Mr aasi yeah Mr K yes Mr yes Mr Gman yes Mr moel yes Mr Ramadan yes Dr W good work policy committee and yes yes Martinez is on yes as well hey let's go down to finance and physical plan Mr MCO like to move 12.1 through 12.18 sorry moved by Mr MCO seconded by Mr GLA roll call please Mr yes Mr K yes Mr from 12.4 exp 7118 yes Mr Mo yes Mr Ramadan yes Dr web yes Mrs yes and marz oh Mr yes yes I know but I'm thinking okay uh okay New or Old business anybody have any new or old business Mr Gman I know I brought this up in the past regarding um proposal to put a sidewalk coming up Henry Street the small parking lot to the left of it like a bunch of whatever the sidewalk there so the public walks on the sidewalk and not through the park lot car we have another sidewalk the other missing this so what I was going to ask and the security committee here Mr Ramadan Mr Keta um if it's possible toac the administration to explore that option as we do the inclusive Park so the inclusive parts coming you know this week right other they're going to start this week um we get this project and we got the other construction project um I know that's something that I think we have that in our long-term planning if not we got to put that that potential project in there just we have it in we can't use Capital funds unless we have it in our long-term plan um I don't know if we have it in our longterm plan we might actually yeah we can update we can look into updating our um long long range facility plant are added but obviously it's not be this year right so we can definitely export yeah that's that was my question if the board since we're here you know if the board is okay with it we can explore possibly adding that that that specific um sidewalk to this project just for my own knowledge um it's our property and it's not the town like we have to do that just want to make sure that I understand so that's the well that's what that's what I'm suggesting I want yeah exactly make sure it's our property that property might belong to folks own the house I'm not sure okay but if it's ours if we can add it to the you know it's all the playground area whatever we can add it to that as to avoid red tape and safety I I just want to see yeah um I I also want to just have this PO be so far the Construction company's been very good with doing things on and within budget um but we we still at that last push I'm always afraid there might be a $100,000 work order or something unforeseen that they drill in there and they find that pip being got to be replaced or something um we already had that one thing that was you know 20 or $30,000 over the so I don't want to commit too much towards anything but I still do want to look that into the future so can we at least look and start with the check of the property if that okay that works yes last meeting I suggested electronic payments for the after school program certified Angels were we able to look into that I was not able to but I okay and Mr B did you have something yeah so did we reschedule the meeting for the 23rd of October as it conflicts with the the the New Jersey School Board associ conference yeah it's a good catch I know I think Lisa CAU that or you CAU that today um so that's something that we'll I think we'll just have to maybe send out dates and makebe do Str poll with Lois to see who can be there yeah I think I sent your email today about no I sent you yeah it stuck up on me today because I had it from my notes from the last meeting and I forgot about it so yeah we do need to reschedule that the sooner the better so that everybody can get it on their their calendar okay just selfish I know I just put together this veral policy but the next two board meetings are the 25th of September and the 23rd of October I'm traveling for both fo I'm hoping to not not fall into the three consecutives before we even adopt the policy I I think you need to amend the policy just for you Omar okay um okay uh anything else my agenda okay so can I have a motion to open the floor to Citizens on operation of schools moved by Mr MCO seconded by m quad all in favor press open anybody Mr Miller okay can iose uh moved by Mr gizman seconded by Mr Moo all in favor okay so second by Mr second by Mr Keta all in favor all right everybody enjoy the last two weeks of Summer and have a great and safe Labor Day weekend and we'll see you in September thank you