Sure. >> Good evening everybody. It's 7 o'clock and this uh tonight's meeting is being televised by area 58. Present tonight is Bob Durgen, Gerald Jolie, Tina Kenyon,
David Fry, and myself Kasaya as well. And our first agenda it is ZBA 25-13 24 love 11. Would you like to read that?
>> Yeah. You guys don't have a public hearing notice because you already opened this one at the last meeting. It's just a continuation. >> No, we don't have a meeting at the last meeting. I don't have >> just continuation.
>> Just continuous anyway. So, all righty. could you come up and tell us what you what you're doing and what you want what what your plans are and um we know that you wanted to you pushed it back 30 ft and the side
lot line it's still 10 ft >> we asked for 15 >> 15 yes >> and um >> the hardship is you know it's a self-created hardship that you wanted put this building where it is. Where is
the septic system on this property? >> It's to the right of the property. It's It's uh Let me see here. >> Turn left out of the garage. >> Yeah, it's uh right I think that's it
right there. It's uh it was 22 ft from the corner when it was back here. >> That's what I was told. I had to have 20 ft. So if I go if I go 15 ft, it would put
me close to the leeching field. Could I go 15 ft? Yes, but it would put me right to the edge of my leeching field. So I know you asked me to put it back 20 ft, but instead of putting it back 20 feet,
I pushed it back 40t, which makes it 90 ft off the off the road. Yeah. Could I go the 15 ft? Yes. But I really it would be detrimental to me. >> Mhm.
>> I feel that the uh garage would be an asset to the area. Um excuse me. I choke up. I'm not used to talking. >> No, that's all right. I mean, just tell us what you're going to do. That's all we're asking. >> I figured by with the garage. I have my grandkids living next door
>> as well. >> They're driving. They're getting their license. This will get them off the road as well. Give them a place to store. Um I think, like I said, I think it'll be an asset to the to the neighborhood. I'm not I'm not tearing the neighborhood
apart. I think I'm making an improvement. I've been in town for uh in that house for 50 years or or better. And my opinion, all I did was improve that area. And I continue to do that. Uh
when it's done, it'll be presentable. It's not going to be a a shed. Uh it's going to be a garage. Uh I need the 12T doors. Uh I have an RV that's 30 30 foot.
So I need the room for my RV. Um the uh the properties listed as uh residential agricultural. >> Mhm. So, I'd like to try to keep it, you
know, maintain my agricultural status there. And I figure if it's a garage/bond, um, I live in Maine most of my time and I have my farm equipment up there and my
circle of life is closing up on me and someday I like to bring that down here. Well, when I went to the property, I mean, I I go by it almost every day. And the East Bridgewater pumping company is that
>> Bridgewater. >> Bridgewater. Is that run out of that place? >> No. >> No. You're on the wrong You're thinking right here. This is over here. This is the original pump. Like this house right
here. This barn. That one. So he's right here. >> I think it's one of these people cuz they're super close to the lot line, too. >> Who owns the house on the corner? >> That's my barn. That's my house across
the street. >> Mhm. >> 2025 11th Avenue. Any members of the board want to know? >> No, just I know we we said 15. Can you do it uh 13 ft 12 ft? I we just want to get
>> I could get it I could I'll I'll get it as far away from that fence as I can without disturbing my leeching field. Could I do the 12 foot? Yes. >> I mean, I'd like to see a little bit more uh separation from the from the
side. yard. >> Well, the whole neighborhood and you're familiar with the neighborhood. Oh, sure. >> And everything is right on the property line. We realize, >> including your own garage in back. >> In fact, I'm 50 ft from the back.
>> And my garage is is is 5t off. >> Excuse me. >> 5T off. >> That garage was so we'll give you a chance to talk later. But anyways, so I'll be I'll be further my back property
line will be further back than what's required. >> And could I go 12 footer or so? Yes. >> But like I said, I went 90 ft. >> No, that's that's appreciated. You know, I'm sure you >> So that's what I'm trying to do cuz I know he said that he would be viewing it
from his window. So, when I'm done, if I get approved, there'll be shrubbery all along the line. It's going to be nice. Uh, I'm doing hydrangeas up in Maine and maybe someday there'll be all hydrangees
there. >> Um, >> what's the footprint? 30 by 32. Is that the footprint? The cross 30 by 32. >> Correct. Now, the area is pretty tight down there.
12 ft is a plus, but you'd have to be okay with it. I I'll speak I have my concern. It's just going to be a big building from two ways about it. How many square feet is
900 and just about 990? And the garage is going to be 960. >> Yes. Smaller than the house. and this is for a motor home and my my final equipment my my truck
I'm going to be plowing for the town uh another reason for the 12T doors my plows well I have 9 foot6 plows and I also have 9 foot plows So, be a place for me to work on my plow trucks.
>> So, you're looking at for storage only? >> That's correct. >> No parking any other equipment other than your RV and your truck and >> my cars, my vehicles. Mhm. I >> say I got my my daughter across the street that's living in there now.
There's three cars there. No running water. >> No, >> just electricity. >> That's correct. >> Are the bridge water pump trucks going to be parked there? >> Um, it may at times. It's a spare truck. >> That's a problem.
>> That's a problem. >> That's a problem. >> Well, it don't have to be parked there. We have to make conditions that what we we'll have to make conditions on this application if it passes if it goes through that >> you came in with an application that you
wanted to put an RV in there and couple of trucks. >> That's correct. >> Now you want to put the Bridgewater pumps, you know, trucks in there. That becomes excuse me, that becomes a business. And um
>> where is Bridgewater pump? >> I can guarantee you it's not going to be a business there. That's not a business. That's my my property to put my vehicles. There's like five, six vehicles in my own. >> No, we you have to you have to you know
like when we put the conditions on, you have to either accept them or or not accept you. Everything's so tight down there that >> Huh? >> I said everything's so tight down there. I don't think it's going to ruin what
the neighborhood looks like. Um, >> it's getting them off. >> I mean, the lots are small. >> Yeah. >> And you're and you're occupying that lot with a house and a big building and it it's tight.
There was this septic system ever been disturbed? I've never had any issues with it. >> Was it ever >> pumped out, you know, in the past? Yeah. Regular maintenance. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Never had an issue.
>> Would you rather have Would you rather put a garage or have him do an ADU and he doesn't even have to come to us and have more people taking up more water? That's you have to ask yourself >> because now they can now people can just put whatever they It's going to have a 12T to you won't be able to put an ATU
up there, you know. >> No, I know. >> That's the furthest thing I walk. >> No, but I'm just saying like the rules have changed so much that one way or the other, you can use all of your land. It's can you use it for something that's not going to take up more water and everything else that might be more
beneficial than >> and and the you know the sidelot lines for the variance. You're creating the hardship. We're not creating it for you. The hatcher is being created by you because you have to be 30 foot 30 ft
from this side lot line and you know the whole nine yards but it's up to what do you think Bob and Jerry >> it's a it's it's a >> I mean all the lots down there are tight
everyone's looking for garages everyone's looking for you know something else down Yeah. >> What is the width of the garage? 30 ft. >> Yes. >> Can you go small with that? >> Cuz a typical garage is 24.
>> Yes. But if I want to go with 12t doors. Now I got that's 24 ft right there. >> 12 ft wide, 12 ft tall. >> 12t tall, 12t wide. So, my my RV is like a, you know, the
with with the with the uh side panels, you know, opening up the doors. Need at least 2 ft from the doors if I'm going to work on, you know, loading my the RV, taking stuff out of it, whatever. So, I need two foot from the from the wall side. >> Well, you could do one 12T and one
either eight or nine. >> I'd rather not. Doesn't look as nice, but >> yeah, look nice. >> So, is the RV parked there all the time along with the uh your truck? >> The RV right now it's stored in Maine. I
had it down here this summer and with the pine trees there, Wayne knows about the sap. It just poor sap. It damn near destroyed my RV. So, once I get the garage, if I can, it'll be out of me. Like I say, my circle of life is getting
smaller. So eventually I'll be leaving Maine and coming back here and that's where my RV will be parked. Right now I'm paying for storage up there. >> And your your truck with the plow is that also located at this location.
>> Is it right now? No, they're across the street. Will I have a plow truck there? Probably later on it won't have Bridgewater pump on it. It be my personal truck with a plow on to plow for the town. Right now, everything is across the
street. I've been there for over 35 years. >> And how big is the law across the street? >> It's the same size as what I'm doing here. >> Maybe we should hear from the people. >> Yeah. Anybody wants to speak? >> Hi.
>> Yeah. My my biggest concern is the size of the building. I mean, that building is going to be almost as big as my house, and it's taller. Uh the other issue I have is the rain water coming off the roof. That's going to come right over to my property. And not knowing
what is over there, if there's any hazardous spills over there, which I hope not, it my well is right there, right beside the fence. Well, I would prefer it to 15 ft away. I I know he said concerns about a
septic system, but if memory serves me correct, you just put a new galley system in over there. >> I gave some some repairs over there. >> Yeah. So, I I would I don't think this leaf field would have that big impact on on the building. But that's it, right? I mean, the building is I'll look out my
window and the building was going to be bigger than my house. He can put it. I don't have an objection to him putting in a garage, but it's just the size >> that concerns me. >> Anybody else want to talk to us? >> No, just the Bridgewater trucks are over
there all the time. And if there's going to be a big garage, the concern was those trucks being parked there permanently. in the summer. >> We will have to put conditions on this application to pass that he will no the Bridgewater trucks won't be parked in
that building and it's not going to be used for business. Only storage only. >> That's correct. >> What's that? >> It's not That's correct. It's not a business over there. >> Yeah, cuz there's one parked there right now.
>> All right. What's the pleasure of the board? Anybody else have another There any other plot plans in there? A certified plot plan showing this up? >> No, >> it's the original system. >> And like I said, I'm not putting any
water in the garage. >> That's the only plan. It doesn't show except >> it is a large building. >> It is. I'm just >> It's a large building. I'm disagreeing with you, but like I say, I need the 12T sealants. >> It looks more like a commercial
building. >> It won't look like a commercial building. It'll look like >> makes it look like a large building. >> What's that? >> The size of the property makes it look like a large building. >> Yeah. Like, you know, everybody up there, you know, whoever has a garage up there, you know, take takes up the whole property,
>> but it's larger than the standard size garage. >> Mhm. >> Two houses down, there's one on the road. It's only probably 24x 24. >> Mhm. >> And that's right on the road, >> but it's smaller
>> and you wouldn't want to do it one day. >> No, it's good for your RV. >> No, the RV will take it all up. >> Yeah. Yeah. How often how often is that RV used? How often is it going to be packed or how often, you know? >> Well, during the winter time,
>> I use it in the summertime, >> you know. So, it'll be in and out during the summer. It's got to be garage, >> you know, just like you put your car in. >> It's just that area is just cottages.
It's a small, you know, that whole neighborhood is small. Cottages. >> I mean, the lots are small. Everything else is, you know, >> but again, I'm 90 ft off the street. You won't even see it. >> You will. >> Won't see why. >> Not going by the garage. Well, driving by. >> I see this garage.
>> Oh, well, like I say, it's 90 ft off. You know, our houses are uh what 10 ft off the off the road? 15t off the road. Our houses. Yeah. >> Right. So when you're driving by, you
know, it's 90 ft off the road. >> 90 ft is not that big of a difference, but you can still see it. You know, this whole building building is bigger than 90 ft. And you can, you know, stands out like a short town.
>> It's got to be a nice building. You know, like I say, you know, when I'm done, there's going to be shrubbery there. There's grass there. How much improvements have I done over there? The house was condemned, right? Before you couldn't even see the house. It was all covered over with, you know, the trees
and the brush and vines and looked as looked like Briggs's house, right? And now look at it, you know, I got to paint it, put a roof on, you know. So, I'm doing nothing but improvements and when I'm done, it'll be nice.
Anybody want? >> The only other thing I'm just thinking of right now is you mentioned as far as water runoff, if he's got a well right near there, that that can pose a problem. >> Um I don't know. It's not a drinking well, is it?
>> It's irrigation. >> It's irrigation. So, I mean, as far as runoff, his his his house runs off into the grass. >> It's right there. His whole backyard runs into him. his, you know, his house itself runs off into me and I'll be
further away than what his house is from the sidewalk. And I mean, the only way I'm looking at it is if if the uh the gutters that you have in there so that the rain water comes off more to the back of the garage and more probably to your your lot than
his. >> What's that again? I'm sorry. Got the water that drains off the roof. Goes into your old >> goes into the goes to the back of the garage. Just the the way the the gutters are put on. It's going to lean to the back of the So, it's going to drain to the back of their your garage.
>> If I put gutters on there. >> Yeah. >> I probably won't even put gutters on it. I don't have gutters now. Can go right to the side of the house. >> Well, I don't I don't use gutters. I think that's what they're they're they're questioning as to whether you
the runoff is going to go into the uh >> I don't think so. >> Well, the runoff is going to go from you know his house or the other people it's going to go and go to the side and where it disperses it's going to be soaked into the ground.
>> It's all sand. It's all kinds >> as it is now. We have a real heavy rains. the way the the land is contoured. It really it forms like down right down in that right by actually where your garage is there's there's a gully if it rains extremely hard it does
form a soft wet area there. That's why if you notice when along back I have a trench so it brings the world down towards it away from the house. >> Yeah, I could dig a trench too right alongside yours. >> That'd be no problem. That's what you
know if that's what what it takes then I I I can put a trench there. >> My concern my concern is the side lot line. You know 10 ft is too close to the to the side lot line. I mean you can't go more than
>> I'll do the 15. >> If I could do 12, I'll do 12. 15. I'm going close. But if just said 12, I'll go 12 if that's fine. >> You do 14. >> I feel safe at 15.
>> What's that? >> I feel better at 15. >> I'll go 15 sold that size building. >> I still want that size building, but you know, I'm trying to compromise. I just >> when that when when that building's
done, that land's going to be landscaped. It'll be sloped. If I have to, I'll put a ditch in along the side there. And it's not going to take much back so it's away from your house as well. >> Yeah. So, like I said, I compromised. I went back quite a bit. >> We're going to have to put some
conditions on this on this building to uh >> never not going to be a business deal. not to not to run into problems later. Once you start going in there and all of a sudden, you know, things start going haywire and we don't want that. It falls back on us,
>> not you or the or the neighbor, you know. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> anybody want to make a motion with some conditions on it? >> I'll make a motion. Petition. What number is this?
25 >> 25-3. Yep. >> Um as presented with the size being 30 by 32 with a side step back of 15 ft and 90 ft off the road as presented.
Conditions, no running water, >> right? >> Personal use only. No commercial, no business. >> I'm not running a business there. There's times I'll be parking trucks. You have to you'll have to agree that the these conditions.
>> Okay. Well, let me just let me we >> How many years have I been parking my vehicles there? I'm not running a business out of it. But at times I put trucks over there so I can plow the road or park the park pack a truck over there because somebody's, you know, parked in
the parking lot or what they might they might not run a business out of that. But we still we still need to put it in there. We have to put We have to put it in writing. >> Put it in there. >> We have to put it in writing. >> Okay. >> Because the appearance of if you have a garage and then you have trucks in there
too, it's not going to look pretty anymore. It's going to look really congested. >> Well, I think um right now by me putting the garage there um that cleans it up, but then if you're going to park car,
you know, trucks there too, that just deteriorates it right away. You know, let's say for instance, you take that RV and take it to Maine and park it the main for the whole year and all of a sudden you got an empty building. You know, they're going to say, "Hey, we
might as well put my trucks in there for now until >> So, I bring my RV down or whatever it whatever. We're going to decide here tonight. You're going to have to, you know, have to agree to it. If you don't agree to it, then we won't go through
it." Okay. You want to make >> any other conditions? >> What's that? >> Any other conditions? >> Any spoken vehicle? >> You can't run a business out of there. >> I guarantee
>> no spoke about I mean, we're going to put the conditions in, right? >> That's right. >> You want to write that down for us? >> Could you give me your >> There you go. Any other conditions? >> What's that? >> Any other conditions?
>> No running. Oh, look at your face. >> Wait, I'll make it right for you. I haven't done, you know, all the years I've been there, 50 years, you know, I cleaned the place up for before it looked like it was an eyes saw before.
It's not an eyesore anymore. Go ahead. Landscaping. Last landscape to be the landscape. >> You're going to have to landscape it. And >> I'll put a fence right down the hall. That way you won't see it.
>> You made the grade. So it will be away from from this gentleman's property. >> Yep. Yep. We have to try to help everybody out. We don't want to get blamed for a stand, >> you know, at the end. >> But that was not my intention of running
the business. >> No, we're not saying that right where I am. We're not saying that, sir. >> Can you read the conditions? >> No running water, 15t sideyard setback, 90T front yard setback, no commercial use, created away from neighbors property. Anybody want to make a motions
and for their condition? >> I already made a motion. >> Who wants to second it? >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Tina. >> Yes. >> And myself? Yes. >> Thank you all.
>> Good luck and hope everybody is happy. >> Now, let me ask you something. Um, is there a time limit that I have to have this completed or? No, you're gonna get a >> I think it's two years.
>> How many? Y >> and then it's running out. >> Like I'm not ready to do it now. My main thing was just to approve >> trying to figure things out. Do I sell everything? Do I move? Do I do this?
>> Variance is two years special permit. I'm not sure if it's two years or one year. Okay. >> You have both special permit for the size and variance for the setback. Okay. Once you overgo the the permit limit, then you you have to come back in front of the board to do it over again.
>> So, Danielle will there's a 20-day wait period after that. I'm sorry. >> There's a 20-day wait period before anything goes through. Once that's over, Danielle will send you all the information >> and they'll notify you that to come get the permit for the to record it, then
you go from there >> in in 20 days. Come back here. >> Yeah, you need to pick up the permit. >> Okay. >> I think she calls you to let you know it's ready. >> Yeah, they'll notify you. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Within that 20 days, if there's any other complaints that come up or have a
problem, >> we'll have to revisit the site. We have to revisit again. >> Okay. >> All good. >> Good luck. >> We're all good. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Second application. Thank you. >> ZBA2-12
102 Lake Street. Heard zoning board of appeals will hold a public hearing on Monday, December 8th, 2025 at 700 p.m. in the board of selections meeting room at the Halifax Town Hall, 499 Clement Street, Halifax, Mass. On the application submitted by
the basic graph to construct a new single family home said to be located 102 Lake Streets as shown on assessor's map 20 lot 116 book 54956 page 151. Property is a residential zone or zone residential. The board of
appeals will consider variances canor special permits from the following sections of the zoning bylaw and any additional zoning relief the board deems necessary. 167-8 non-conforming use E abandonment a non-conforming use which has been
abandoned or discontinued for more than 2 years shall be reestablished any future use shall be in conformity with the provisions of this chapter. >> How you doing? >> Good. >> All right. Can you tell us what you want to do?
>> So I was looking just to move the house more square to the street and make it just a standard size house. When you show us on the map, what do you want to do? >> So, the the outline here shows the new strip. >> I moved like that.
>> Yeah, you can blow it up and everything. >> I blew it up. >> You sure did. >> So, the red line shows my proposed and the and the other line, the shaded line shows the uh existing. >> I'm making it bigger because I can't see
red. See the shade where it is before. >> I'm just trying to make it a standard size 24 by 32 and square to the street. >> Does this does that sit on a separate lot by itself?
>> Yes. >> The the the house in the front? >> Yep. >> That was yours, wasn't it? >> Yep. Sold it. >> Okay. How did wasn't that all in one lot at one time? >> Nope. It's two separate lots and it was always two separate owners.
>> Where's the entrance and the exit to that? >> It is sir. >> It is right here. >> There's not border on wetland. >> No, the wetland's back here. >> How far are you from the wetland?
Um, >> I don't know. It's close. >> Have you Have you contacted the conservation? >> I have not. >> Well, you have to go through that first. >> Okay. I was told to come here first. >> By the building department. >> Well,
>> hold on. Let's look at M G. >> Do you have a site plan what you want to do and all? That's what you >> That's what you're looking at. 24 by 32. And I actually, if you look, it's 3 ft to the property line. I'm bringing it out 4 and 1/2 ft. Bring them out a
little bit. >> So, the entrance to that lot is from the >> is right here. >> Okay. Those lines that are going is is that consery or is it wetland? >> That's not wetlands. There's a house
over here. >> Mhm. There's a row of bushes between us. Row of trees. >> What are those dash lines? Is that a property line? >> No, that's crazy. >> Bushes. No. Going between top to bottom. >> This dash line. >> Yeah, that's the property line.
>> So, he must have I do have an easement from halfway up this retaining wall to the property line. We we had this before and it was the back house was not a full size up
a long time ago. >> Not at all. Yeah. >> Weren't those two parcels joined together at one time? >> Not to my knowledge. >> How big is your lock? I want to say it's 6,000 square feet though.
>> What's that? >> Over 6,000 square ft. Is that one thing? >> So, the last building inspector told me that I had if I was over 6,000 I could he couldn't. >> Now, how did you get the permit for the
front build for the front house? Who was the guy that signed off on it? for the finish. >> No, the the building inspector. Who was it at the time? >> Two building inspectors ago, >> maybe three building. I I I'm not sure
honestly. >> It's hard to keep up with your building department. Let me tell you, >> there was a contentious thing about this property. >> Yes. But the when I bought the property, there was Yes. The first building inspector told me that I had to buy both properties, >> right?
>> And I only bought the one, right? I bought the front one. >> And you sold the front one. >> And I sold the front one. And >> And now I Now my wife owns the back. >> Who is the one who was the one that signed off on that building on that first building? >> Do you have
I don't have that. I don't know. I don't not sure who signed off on it. Talking about the to get the occupancy permit. >> What's that? Yes. Who signed off on the occupancy department? >> It was the Was it Brian was his name? What's your name? >> It was
>> It was 2024. >> It was the two back inspector. Inspector >> Harry, >> the one that lived in Taon or Don or something. >> Ed Bailey. >> Ed Bailey. Yes. >> He signed off on it. >> He signed off on that. >> You looking for I'm trying to do that.
You looking at the lot size first? >> Yes. >> Is this the property? >> And there is an agreement. What's that? >> Is this the property you >> fold to the house? >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you. >> There's some reason I'm here.
>> That's conforming, right? >> 2,277 ft. The lot. >> That's non-conforming. Absolutely. >> This was previously 55 Standard Street in 1924 per building. >> Standard Street. Where's Where's Standard Street?
>> It's on your back side there. So, why is it saying it's abandoned? >> Cuz nobody's lived in it in 10, 12 years. Are >> the taxes up to date? >> I just paid I just paid 70,000 something in taxes to to get this process started.
I wrote a check to Palifax for 70 grand to get this project underway. >> So, the taxes hadn't been >> They weren't paid. I I paid all the back taxes on it, the trash, all of it. I would have been here a month ago if if
someone had told me about the trash. But the the system doesn't link that. >> At one time, those two properties were together. >> What's that? >> At one time, there was no entrance or exit to that property. >> Trash is actually supposed to go against your house. >> What do you mean?
>> You couldn't get to the back property because that one was part of it. Well, that's why I think it says on that's why it says on the notes that it used to be 55 Standard Street because you probably used to get to it from the backside. >> That's a that's a paper road. That road doesn't even exist. >> That's a swamp back there.
>> Is it? >> It's a swamp. >> Says >> nobody's dri Nobody's driving down Standard Street unless you're going over with a helicopter. >> Well, does what I want to do make sense? It depends on what you're going to do.
>> I'm building one house. >> Yeah. How you going to get to it? That driveway on the right is like 8 ft wide. >> How you going to get equipment back there? The septic is shared also between those two properties. >> That was probably why. >> What's that? >> That was probably why. >> Yeah.
>> I feel like I remember this. >> There's also a bylaw. You can't have a shared driveway. >> I don't have a sh >> He doesn't have a shared driveway. He doesn't. Where >> is the from >> this? From this property to this property.
>> It was a need was it a needed easement or was it the It's a ement. >> It's a needed ement and it's basically right in the middle to around to the property line.
>> So what frontage does that have? It has no frontage. >> Has no frontage. >> But it's an existing house. >> But you need 150 foot of frontage >> to build a new house. But I have an existing house. >> Yeah, but you you're um
>> he could use stand a street for his >> If it's a paid >> It's 102 Lake Street. I pay taxes for 102 Lake Street. >> Mhm. But it's been a >> what's technically it's been abandoned for more than two years after the back taxes are $70,000.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's probably close to >> So it's been abandoned. >> And it was weird cuz it weren't for other years. >> So you're not >> that grandfather. >> What's abandon have to do with a foundation should say Before we do
anything here, >> they consider it. >> That's my opinion. I think you should go to conservation first, then come back to the zone. >> That's what I was doing. I was going to mass mapper. Hold on. >> Conservation can't stop me from building a house that's already there. >> What's that? >> They can't stop me from building a house
that's already there. >> We want to know how far you from the from the wetlands and how how >> what's the legal distance? >> Supposed to be 100 ft. >> I'm not 100 ft. We don't know that. >> I know that it's not.
>> We're not conservation. So, I mean, whatever they have to get a letter from conservation that says >> I'm probably 30 ft. >> What's that? >> I'm probably 30 ft. >> So, anything that's within the 50 Anything that's in the 100 foot buffer has to get forgiveness from
conservation. anything that's in the 50ft buffer, you have to go not only through conservation but through like the mass state conservation or they have to do a survey. And then >> so I was told by the last building inspector that if I wasn't moving at the the foot and a half in the back that he
could give me a permit cuz I was more than 6,000 square ft just by >> No, you just said that you were 30 ft away from the conservation from the wetland. >> Oh, this wetland the whole neighborhood. I I understand that. But we can't sit
here and and tell you, "Okay, you can go ahead and build that building when we don't know what conservation's is going to do." Conservation has to come. >> Well, they have to sign off for me to get a building permit. So, >> they have to sign off first.
>> You said there's a note in your binder if you look from conservation. >> What you say? >> There's a note in the binder. >> Note from conservation. And you need to submit a notice of intent to the conservation commission to receive the proper approval for the
proposed work because it's you're within 100 ft of the wetland and with within 200 feet of the perennial stream brook need to go to conservation. Okay.
>> So, we can't finalize anything yet today? >> No. >> No. So, generally what you need to have is because you're close to conservation, you're going to have to have something drawn up showing how far it is from conservation. >> And then they're going to have to tell you >> I know that's state of Massachusetts.
um where you're going to put your pay bales because you have to make sure that nothing's getting disturbed when you're working. >> No, I I know how that all works. >> I know how that works. >> Well, if we can't finalize nothing, we have to go. >> Do you want me to give?
>> Yeah, you can. >> Thank you. The notice of intent, you can find it on the mask website. >> Yeah. >> Um, when I did it, I had my engineer file it just because it was easier. He drew all the plans. >> I've already talked to him. I got to go
by his office, finalized paper. >> So, he can he can submit the notice of intent. >> Okay. >> And then they >> That's to protect you from any legal. We can't make a decision. Okay. Go ahead. Build this house right now.
conservation will come out to us and say why >> conservation I still have to get conservation everybody's approval before I even get a building permit right whether I can even get a building permit because we even have a building inspector >> there'll be someone
>> I think I've been through five building inspectors since I bought my first property >> you're right you are right >> we're not unique there's a lot of there's a lot of that having problems with their their inspectors. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Well, I guess I'll be back. >> All right. >> So, should we do a continuation because he has to go there or how >> Anybody else have any >> Anybody have any You have a question? >> No, I mean building's been abandoned for about 17 years. >> 17 years.
>> Yeah. Somebody did live there when I first moved in 22 years ago. So, it's been abandoned about that long. Was that was that property one unit? >> It was it was one unit at one time. Um the >> who owned it as one unit
>> as far back as I >> ass lives in back lived in back and he's passed away. It was his daughter-in-law that owned it. I can't remember name. Phoebe, right. >> I bought that from Phoebe. >> Okay. She had both of those properties.
>> And that's Ashie, Phoebe, Michael Morrison, and then you guys. >> Yep. But the they were >> She didn't own both of them. >> She didn't. >> She owned the back one. She never owned the front one. >> Right. >> Who owned the front? >> I don't know. But when you look up When
you follow back When you follow it back, >> there was no I have no continuous person that owned >> and I think actually that the power for that building in the back came from That's why you couldn't find a record is because it came from the main building. >> It did. The power and the water came to that.
Like a subound. >> What's that? >> Was it not a subbound? >> Must have been. >> No, it was just it it didn't have much power out there. Let me tell you. >> The building is is you you can't live in
it. It's as it is right now. It's falling apart. >> Oh yeah. >> It's just uh >> it's imploding on itself. >> You're going to condemn the building. >> I want to tear the whole thing down, put a fresh foundation in, and build a fresh house. Well, >> let's do it one step at a time.
How's that sound? >> Well, I was hope I was really hoping just to get be able to get the approval cuz I could get a permit to build the exact same structure that's there. >> Not without conservation approval. >> No, without conservation cuz as long as
I stay within the footprint, I can. >> Well, get us a letter and I'm going to say that. >> I'm I It just doesn't make any sense to me. >> Listen, >> I want to do a standard size house. It just doesn't. >> I'll be back. >> Okay. >> We'll go about this.
>> You understand where we come from? >> No, I get it. I get it. We'll go about it the right way. >> We got to We got to play the rules. >> Okay. No, we're doing tomorrow. >> So, we continue this. >> You want to continue with this and >> um Yeah. We can't really do a date until
I get that paperwork cuz how long that paperwork? >> We continue it to our next meeting. And if you're not the paperwork, then continue to our next meeting. Like >> have to follow the ball down the road. >> Yeah. I'll I'll let you guys know when I when I can when I have to make >> Hold on. Anybody want to make a motion
to continue? >> I'll make a motion to uh continue. Uh >> 2512 >> second >> to >> January >> January 12th meeting >> January 12th meeting. >> All in favor? I
>> Yes. All right. Thanks. Thanks for Yeah. Okay. >> Watch that guy. Thank you. Thank you for your service to the town. that that property was.
>> Excuse me. >> It was >> how long? >> 10 15 years ago. We we went a couple of times when cease and desist and >> we issued a cease and desist and Perry came along and the other guy Ed was in
the end. He signed off on the paper. He gave him the occupy permit which he should have known. Done it. And that law is an illegal law. >> So who subdivided it? >> Huh? >> Who subdivided it? >> Between the building and him
>> when you say he paid 70,000 in taxes. Was he paying on both buildings? >> No, just the back one. >> If it was one property. >> Yeah. If it was one property one time, >> then wait 70,000 on that back house. It's not even It's a shed.
>> Look at it. >> That's what I'm saying. >> He must have paid 70,000 on the whole house. >> And he he's not he's not 30 ft away from her for what? >> Yeah. >> He's not going to get approved to build the house and
drive it across. >> No, she that's one thing was on the board and we wouldn't run with this guy. And he kind of like >> $7,000 is a lot of money and he stops
building >> how we supposed to give him a permit today. >> Four grand a year. >> I make a motion to adjourn. >> Sure. >> We got one more thing. >> One more thing. One more thing. >> What else? >> We have one, two, three, four members.
We have two alternates. >> Yeah, that's right. Two. Yes. >> Do you want to vote David Fry as a member or Senator Select? >> Offer to the other one first meeting. >> What's that? >> Did we do this last meeting? >> No.
>> No. >> No. >> Oh, do we? >> Don't you have to offer it to the other one first? She's been a long >> If you count the number of weeks, just come to motion. I'm >> sorry.
the pleasure of the board. I mean my role >> that you did to the select man. >> Yeah, we we've recommended to the selectman that he become a member and Mrs. Armani will stay as a as a >> Yeah.
>> You want to? >> Sure. I'll make a motion. >> Go ahead. >> Make a motion to uh recommend David as our fifth member. >> Second. All >> in favor? >> Yes. I >> Yes. and we'll recommend it to the selectman
and we'll go from there. Now you can make a motion to >> Okay, we have no bills that I can see that we have to pay or anything. So I will make a motion to >> second. Follow.