Seeing that it's 7 o'clock, >> nothing. >> This meeting is being televised by area 58. President tonight is Bob Durgen, Carol Joy, Dave, >> Pride,
>> Pride, and myself. >> Yeah. And first agenda on the ZBA 25- 59 paradise plan is being continued to
April 13 meeting. It was requested and the second one is ZBA >> 25-12 102 Lake Street and that's been continued also.
>> Yeah. probably understand that it make a determination on >> we want you to make a determination on it >> because they haven't they haven't got back to us at all with any deposits.
>> Well, from what I understand that that lot that that backlog is too close to conservation. >> Okay. and uh non billable. >> I I get it. I'm a building inspector. >> I know.
>> So I I just what we're looking for the board to do is stop moving this forward because it hasn't been asked for continuous now. >> They they've just >> they just >> they've gone away. >> So what we we we vote on it to dismiss
>> stop it. >> Yeah. We we do need a determination. Oh, >> can we uh have a motion on ZBA 25-12 Lake Street
>> to be dismissed by the >> zoner board, right? >> Yeah. >> Anybody want to make a motion? I'll make a motion to discontinue uh ZBA25-12 102
Lake Street to dismiss it from the from the agenda from what >> you said yes. >> Deny or dismiss? >> Dismiss or deny? >> We deny. >> We deny it. But we have to have a continuation to remove it.
>> Or deny. It's either approval or denounce. >> Or deny. Okay. >> You want me to state the motion? Do you want me to restate the motion? >> Yeah. >> All right.
>> We We have a motion. We We stated the motion. We have a motion to deny ZBA-25-12- uh 102 Lake Street. >> I'll second it. But so a yes is to deny, correct? And a no is we're not denying
it. >> Just so there's no confusion. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So yes is denied. So it's not approved. >> It's not approved. Yeah. >> So yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. and myself. Yes,
>> it's in I 5 to Z. >> And on next on the agenda, we got ZBA 26-1 37 Street. I start the first page is just the um
the septic system plan. I'm going to show you um it's probably easy to see on the second page the proposed edition um which approaches on the sideline 30ft
set deck with a common Yes. pieces. These plans are just for the edition, >> correct? Uh, it does have the existing houses in the first couple pages. Kind of confusing. >> Yeah. So, this is the existing house.
>> Yes. get about halfway through the whole >> So that's so how big is the existing house about 1500 square ft 1625 So the addition is a garage as well.
>> Yes. Garage and a new kitchen with living space. >> Yeah. One time you want to put another garage on the left of the house, right? >> On adjacent bought second property. I remember you had something for that. >> Yeah. It's you got approved. It's just
I'm not going to do it. >> I need the open space more than >> anyway. This is just for home at home. Just for personal Is the septic system already? >> I currently bought property upgraded to
a bedroom septic and plans of this um 2015. The first page is the as just show the dimensions are. >> So on this page A2 this is the existing house.
>> This is this is existing. This part here is actually getting kitchen now. >> Yeah. So it's kind of like the dining room is kind of a pantry. >> Yes. Yes. And this is our new kitchen. Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah. This this portion of the
house now has no foundation. It's a total disaster. >> You're going to have a foundation on this one? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So, majority is the garage. >> Um, it's >> technically the house.
>> It's the kitchen kitchen. Um, three, two bedrooms upstairs and the uh garage and above the garage is just unfinished storage space, not living space, right? What is the total uh square foot of the addition?
>> 2556 >> for the whole office >> for the addition. >> For the addition. >> Yes. All that's all that's staying the existing house is literally like the living room and this is a back storage room and one bedroom upstairs
cuz the whole main living part of the house is what has the lack of foundation >> I don't see I didn't see Oh, sorry. I didn't I didn't bring I did get >> what he denied just
sideline distance 30 required 22.2 shown. >> That's all he denied on. He's only taking the barracks. >> Correct. >> Just so just so the board is familiar with this and that >> when because I I did do a drive by. So
the garage next to it is over 200 ft long. It's a commercial garage, right? It's got 12 bays in it. So this house is kind of on the very edge of residential commercial >> and where it's tucked up and in, it's
off the road quite a bit. If you head down that street, if you come out of his driveway and you take a left, the first five dwellings have accessory garages. Just so you have a idea of the overview,
>> not of that size, but just to permit the side of the R as well. >> It's attached. >> It's attached in the house. >> It's not detached. >> That's only 884 square ft. Yeah,
>> because it's considered as part of the house. >> Yeah. Detached by primarily. Yeah. >> I don't think in the bylaws it differentiates between attached and not attached. >> Does anyone have it?
>> I believe it does cuz I read it. Yeah. When we did the other thing years before >> that came up to 884 detached and had to be detached and then they I sent them in front of you for that if it's over 884 detached
>> or accessory structure. This is not an accessory structure. This is a >> thing. >> Yeah. something for a question.
>> Trust your judgment. >> So he does does he need a variance on the side line? >> That's what he's here for. Yeah. He needs to take that. Yeah. either going to shrink the building by 8 ft or you got to give it damage for 8
ft. That's the choice that the board has. I tried to move around the footprint of it to make it fit within with the 30 ft. And everywhere if I go more behind the house, I am less than 10 ft on top of the um
the separate tank. >> If I go forward, I have a stone wall and the electric pole. But he owns both property, right? >> He owns that back lot. >> He owns this side over here and he owns
this whole thing. >> On the side that he's looking for. No, >> no, I don't I own this side through the other side. >> So who who own that side? The side you get on >> this side for the vience.
>> Yeah. Mr. Bren. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, I'm I'm the neighbor on that side. So, we we spoke about the sun. I I don't I think of the numbers that you gave maybe was a few feet. >> 22 foot. >> Not that I I'm just here. It's like it
doesn't bother me. I'm not here to make any decision, but I I'm okay. >> Okay. Yes, they'll have this. >> If you look at the If you look at the renderings at the back, it has regular height garage doors in it. So, there's
not going to be any commercial vehicles in that. You look at the plans. >> The garage was about 9 foot. I think the town requires the varian you're not going to >> no just
>> pickup truck golf cart long moving vehicle. >> Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. >> Properties. >> It's Yeah, it's it's my ride to work. I'm actually going green. 50 miles a gallon that last a while. >> It's very efficient. Yeah.
>> A couple hundred feet. >> Yeah. It's you can go out all summer like six pounds a gallon. It's pretty good. >> So the existing dwelling you're taking down? >> I'm only taking down um the kitchen portion. Let me show you on this. So
right now this is this is a living room in the back storage room. This is the kitchen portion. longer square. And that's what it's weird. This is the original house. This was an addition done in 03 before I bought it. So, this has a four foundation, all normal. This has car batteries and stuff holding the
floor and rocks and stuff. All like a jack spare tire and a car. There's some of those over there. They got created behind it on A2. The old kitchen overlay the new kitchen. You can actually see
the old So, how much bigger would the kitchen be? >> Um, 11 ft wider. There's actually a hallway there, so like 9 ft wider and I think 4 ft deeper.
There's also a porch in the front, too. interior int. >> Yes. >> The hallway is 3 ft or so. >> Yes. 3 ft going in the back. So room to the back. >> So you have a mud room
>> in the back of the house. Yes. Yeah. How wide is now? >> Uh, I think it's like 16 wide. >> 11. >> Showing 116 here. >> Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
>> 118 small kitchen. >> It is. It is a small kitchen. And this room is actually you can't really use this room right now but it's like very >> yeah full runs away What do you guys think?
>> So, nothing on top of the garage, you said. >> Oh, nothing on top of the garage. >> Uh, just out of there storage space. on top of the garage is just going to have >> PL storage. >> That's it. >> Will it be open to the second floor?
>> There is a um we're putting a doorway in case everyone's decided to do something with it. Be connected like this anytime soon. I'm just trying to think where else can you put the garage so you wouldn't need the variance.
>> And what else I tried to do? I get the septic tank, the telephone pole. >> You put it in front of the house >> in front of the living room. >> Yes. >> And it doesn't work on the other side. I mean, you have like a garage, you have to go through a living room, it' be like totally >> odd.
Use the kitchen. >> That was my first idea was to try to push it behind more. >> Use the kitchen is kind of almost not worthwhile. >> It kind of is the whole point of your house. >> Small kitchen now. >> Yeah. A small kitchen, big family is a
problem. And no foundation, >> how much of the house are you leaving? >> Um, I don't know exactly. Probably 65%. because there is 10 ft on the outside. If you if you knock the house, you could
send that new structure in the >> but that's a huge extreme >> right >> at that point. >> And the whole if all that was left was the family room and the dining room, right? >> Yes. Not even the whole kitchen. Right. >> Yes. The kitchen.
>> It's just that like that size. So it's probably 65. >> Yeah. >> I mean, is there a reason for the the garage to be so big? >> Even if you did, but if you did a
standard twocar garage, you still need >> to meet the third car behind it doesn't doesn't >> doesn't anymore conforming. The only way to get around it is to put one in from the front instead two behind.
>> Too much. >> But then the access too long to make the string as well. >> Yeah. >> Trucks 30 23 ft. How close is the property on the other
side of this variance? On the other side of this line, >> the house >> What's over here? Yeah, >> there's a house over there. >> How far off the line is it? >> Probably about 50 ft. >> There's a bunch of trees. >> There's There's a giant row of trees
there. >> Huge spruce trees. Huh? What is that? He goes in his feet this way. This That's what I was trying to think of. I'm trying to think of a hat truth.
>> It's mostly deceptive system. >> It's not the not the topography, you know. >> But he didn't create it. >> No, I understand that. Yeah. >> Is there any way that you could
>> come back this way 8 ft and go out on this side? I wouldn't be able to get vehicles in there or anything from the sides because they're too long. >> 30 ft is not much >> and I'm not trying I don't want to this there's existing
>> the problem the problem is is the variance. There is no you're creating your own hardship and that's hard for the for the board to to give somebody a variance when there is no hardship. It's a
a lot is clean. And you there there's no hills, no to create, you know, you're creating your own hardship. >> And that's kind of hard for I know you got 22 ft. You're only asking
for, you know, 8 foot. >> It's just because of the width off the existing structure of the house to get the the >> We're trying to do it the best way we can. So the
next applicant said, "Well, you gave it to him. You didn't give it to me." >> You know, and if we can try to re refigure this thing and hold this whole thing out and fit it onto the lot
without a variance, >> right? I I I did, you know, spend a lot of time trying to do that with >> the usage of it and the access to it. >> Well, you got 41 ft over here. Can you go back this way a little bit >> to this side?
>> I'd still have >> I'd actually be over the property with it. >> This is This is >> And you got 41 >> 41 ft here. >> 41 ft here. >> I mean, and there's there's a stone wall here that there not really access here, but and there's a separation
of the row of trees here just block in this commercial space. And this is a living room. So, I wouldn't access to it. >> All you have to go is like what you're what you're looking at over here 8 ft and square up this one,
>> right? But this whole portion of the house is like complete and done and it's like it's like totally separate. It wouldn't >> if I could pick the whole house up and physically move it that would solve all the problems. >> Yeah, I know. But
>> that's slightly difficult. >> That is Yes, that would solve the problem. Any way you can go off of this this way a little bit. >> It encroached on the the septic tank. It would actually hit it. >> I measured that today to see if there's
any way that >> this is the septic tank, right? >> No, that's the leeching thing. This is the tank here. >> You have to be 10 ft off it. And the way I have this, >> okay, if you go this way and whatever square foot this is, come out and
>> Right. But then it then it creates then it's a useless space because I don't have the access for two vehicles cuz it's not wide enough is the problem to have. >> And this is an open space right here. Right. >> Correct. >> Between you this this is your personal house.
>> Yes. >> And this is the the the shop. >> No, no, no, no. This this is carrying street. This is this is just this is a big garden. This is my front yard in the driveway. >> The shops are here. >> This is all yours? >> Yes. Oh, this is all my house. Yeah. Oh yeah. >> Okay. This is this this little piece show. Yeah.
>> Is there any way you could >> without moving the entire house? >> The variance is a hard thing to you know to give to somebody >> you're creating your own hardship. We're trying to
>> you understand without without >> if you can refigure this out without a variance, >> it's a go, >> you know, from my point of view. But a hardship is kind of
>> No, I there's just not really a way for me to cuz I don't this is not my >> So I don't have the access to get in this way and this part of the house. I can't move.
>> And that's why I already made it to get the space that we were looking for. I need making it go back further. This part of the garage was back further in the back of the house because there is no issue there. I I originally had it, you know,
straight across in a square rectangle. >> So then you said this is this is your level, right? >> Yes. This is this is the um this is the front yard here. >> The front yard the driveway actually comes in like right here. >> And there's nothing here. >> Ah there's a there's a big this is this
is a very low area which floods. >> Oh, but that that's a garden. >> Okay. >> Commercial. >> This is another piece of property that I own. That's a commercial piece. >> So where does the commercial part begin?
The commercial part actually the commercial residential line goes at an angle like this. There's 70 I think there's 72 ft of frontage here of residential and then this goes all the way back. This whole piece is residential. >> Wow. >> There's
like an acre and a >> commercial line cuz I own this whole piece of property but it's it's it's cut in half at an angle like this. This by resial. These logging trucks are on the commercial. >> Correct. >> And then where you're stacking splitting
wood and all through here, that's all residential back here. This that wind row with the trees, that's all on this lot, not this lot. >> Correct. >> Right. That's above between that. >> Correct. That's why we put that farm there. >> And then that's the
>> I want to say it's like an eight or a quarter. That's where the tension is. So I don't think he's asking for anything unusual that any other house in Halifax has. >> I think anybody that comes in front of
this board, it's creating their own hardship in a way if they're asking for appearance. >> Again, it's not asking for anything unusual. >> Um, but that hallway, is there a way you can re reconfigure it and get rid of a hallway that's going to
stay you 3 ft? You know what I'm saying? It kind of pulls it away from >> You're not You're not going to do it tomorrow. No, it'd be it'd be it'd be in your best interest to figure to do it without >> I like the further away from the my laptop,
>> right? I would say 3 ft. I'd still >> still require, >> right? But it might make people feel a little more comfortable. >> That would change a lot. Same thing the garage. I don't know if they cut two feet off it or something like that. >> It's the problem is the I know is is the
width of the two vehicles is the problem. >> So were these these stairs to go to the attic? >> Yes. >> Yep. The purpose of this video was to do like an outdoor kitchen and a patio eventually
have access to the kitchen from it cuz if you shrunk the garage a little bit somehow stairs as well right now asking for as a compromise. >> Yeah.
>> Again, what is the >> else put the house in the second? >> I would not and to move the whole house is a financial hardship. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody
want to do a site inspection? >> What time, Jerry? >> Jerry, what time? >> I had it all drawn out, too. Hold the cover of snow. I can stay up. No, I I don't think we need sight inspect.
>> I don't think so. >> I'm familiar with the site myself too. You know, >> I'm just just in the back of my mind. I'm just looking at hardship value on it because we have we have had people change their size of the house to to
make it work because it was there was no option to be to be honest. It's just one of the the things that uh I would love to give it to you, believe I would love to give it to you, but uh we've been uh we've been uh brought to
uh say court a couple times and everything else on on some of the decisions. So, >> isn't there a part of the hardship here that doesn't create an issue with any of the surrounding properties? >> Yes. >> Yes.
And we tried to make it look like a, you know, a rusted farmhouse style. >> I have no complaints with the the looks of it or anything else. And I think they know it's it's just a varying spot. This is the whole point. >> So speed. Is there any way you can like
I mean sit there and think of what what you can do without >> I started making the plan six years ago. I thought about it a hundred times at least. >> I threw away the whole notebook you draw no good. >> I think you have a little feedback from us maybe other ideas that you have
thought of. So you might be able to maybe incorporate something. >> Yeah. I'd love to give it to you, but that I have a hard time with so any changes that would
make you further away from this line that >> I don't I'm not saying the whole 8t be within >> I want to go take the >> Yeah. So >> maybe chip a little bit here and as
Peter mentioned if you can narrow the a hallway and uh >> any chance that you can make it away from us would be helpful. >> Okay. >> And um
I mean the design is great and all that stuff but the hardship is the biggest the, you know, the varian killer. >> Yeah. I see. >> If you came in and you were 30 ft from
from the lot line, >> I would love to. >> I mean, they wouldn't be here. >> Wouldn't even be here. >> Wouldn't be >> I try to avoid in every way, >> you know. Not not nothing against the applicant or anybody else. It just it's
up to us and we get hammered if we do this and pass it. And the next guy got, well, you gave it to him. We got to give it to him. You got to have a hard and and uh to be honest with you, you can figure out a way to come out of
this without even doing coming in front of the board. you the respective you beat the the 30 side line. >> Mhm. >> It's all done, you know. >> Okay. >> Ralph, any thoughts?
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I said, well, do what you want. >> A great job. >> It is very nice. >> Yep. >> Yeah. It's very neat. >> That would be great.
>> He isn't too bad for a neighbor. Just too bad. >> Yeah, just bad. >> No, whatever you want to do over there is fine with us. >> So, I'll make a motion to wave on site. >> Yes.
>> Second. >> Second. >> All in. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I want more for that. >> All right. You don't want to come in our neck of the woods. I'll make a motion to continue ZBA 26-1
to our >> When's that? >> April. >> April. >> April 13th. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Yes. >> You want to come back next month on the 13th and see what we can do with it? >> Yep. Absolutely.
>> It's not a Friday. No. >> Mind you, good season. Make some magic. >> Okay. >> Um, you want to keep it up next time. >> Maybe you can do
>> I'm not doing that long enough. >> Thank you, ladies. >> Thank you. Yeah, >> there's three things that it needs to meet, right?
>> It has to have unique soil, shape or topography. It has to have a hardship, not selfcreated. And then it's not detrimental to the nature. Those are the three things. So somehow I used to figure out topography or shape of the line was affecting as
well as the action. So >> so the topography is one of them. >> Yeah, it is one of three is one of the three. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> Why can't you cut the garage door in half? >> Why can't you cut this garage in half
and make it in? >> He has to. That's what he wants. >> No, he wants to add 20. He wants a variance to go from here to here 22 feet. >> Mhm. >> If you cut this garage in half, this this half of the bay,
>> you're adding six to it right off the bat. >> That's 28. >> And he'll he'll >> cuz he on the back side he's got he's got a garage door going in the end right there. Mhm.
>> Good. Three vehicles there. Two in the front. >> Yeah. >> No, he was talking He was talking golf carts and lawn tractors in the back one. Put a fulls size one in the back >> cuz it's going to be wide open all the way through.
>> Space down there. You own that big building. You can put a little corner. Well, it's not his vision >> cuz that door is going to be
if he cuts it now. Just shift everything over. >> Well, I'm sure you know. >> It's a beautiful house. >> Guarantee he's going to come back with something different. Okay, I'll make a motion to approve uh
the bill for express newspaper ZBA 26-1 advertisements for $100. >> All good. >> I amend for February 9th, 2026. I'll make a motion to approve uh the
meeting minutes for February 9th, 2026. Second. >> I second. >> All in favor? >> I next schedule meeting is April 15, 2026. So, we have to have a letter sent to for
Dave. >> We can ask. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Paralyze Lane coming back next month, >> huh? >> Paradise Lane. He coming back the 13th, right? If you have a continuation, >> I watched that video before the record.
I watched video one last meeting. >> Oh. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, you were not here yet. >> I drove by today. Technically could use an improvement. >> And the day hatch his house was the same way.
A lot of money. >> We did a lot of money. and to put a garage where this house is going. >> Like I said, when we were out there, if you look at all the houses around that area, 90% of them had detached garages.
>> All standalone, even hatches. >> He didn't put a garage. >> No, he kept he he kept that old one there. >> Yeah. the one across the street, the one that down like two doors down, they're
all standalone. >> I was surprised at the the electric service to that house. >> It's still on. >> It's still on it. >> Yeah. >> Wow. I was watching a meter go round and round. >> Dave looked at still spinning. >> Who's paying the bill? >> Yeah. It can't be abandoned if someone's
paying the bill for it. You know, >> somebody just walk. >> Yeah. >> Paid 375 for that house. >> 375? >> Yeah. >> Pretty Really? >> That's a lot of money. >> There's no roof came. There's flowers on the roof.
>> So that house I looked in the window all >> that is all moss. >> Wow. >> So how can a house have electricity if it's that close to the level? >> There's got to be something in there that's
>> something strong on it. >> Yeah. >> You got the refrigerator plugged in for the beer or what? Yeah. >> All right. You put a motion to make I'll make a motion to >> all favor. >> Yeah. >> Let's go home.
>> Going home. Was a beautiful