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So, let's call this meeting to order. It is 6:00 on the uh 13th of July. Uh this is a meeting of the Halifax Finance Committee. Uh, this meeting has been posted in accordance with the provisions of MGL30A section 20B and is being

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recorded and will be posted on the area 58 community access channel. The finance committee and its chair reasonably anticipate the following matters will be discussed and/or voted on at this meeting. Agenda items may be taken out of order for time management considerations. Minute members in

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attendance, Cheryl Burke, Mike Bennett, Frank Johnston, EJ Bryan, Mike Reignetta, Rod Hemingway, and myself, Jim Walters. So, thanks everybody for being here. Appreciate it. Hope everybody's enjoying the summer so far. Um, so we will just

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get down to business. Uh, the next agenda item that we have is approval of minutes. Now, there is one set out there uh officially from Emily, which is 4626. Has everybody had an opportunity to read through those? >> Yes. Yes. >> Does anybody have any ads changes or

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deletions? >> There are a couple with by typographical errors. Um they don't change the substance of the minute. So I don't know if we want to correct the typos or move forward with them.

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>> So do they impact the overall necessity of the minutes? Right. No. >> So, no. >> No. No. Substantive change. >> Grammatical. You mean punctuation or >> misspell? Misspellings. >> Okay. [snorts]

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>> We can send them back if you want. >> I think we should approve. >> I think approve and then just adjust. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Amend them for the uh >> the errors. Okay. >> Of the of the spelling only. >> Correct. >> Yep. Not the substance of the

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>> of the minute. >> Not the substance of the minutes. >> Right. >> It's a time right now as it is right now. >> Yeah. April 6th. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. So, is there a motion to approve the minutes? So, move. >> Second. >> All in favor?

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>> I. >> Any oppose? [snorts] >> None. They're approved. Um, so you know, when it comes to the minutes, a couple of things. So, I sent out a an AI generated record of the minutes of our last

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meeting. Um, and I I also did a little bit of research on what the open meeting law has to do with the minutes themselves. And there are three things, four things that we need to keep in mind. Um, so the recording, so it it is

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not ne necessary to have a verbatim transcript like EJ said this, Cheryl said that, right? It's just a recording of the subjects discussed. Um, it's going to document actions, requests, and assignments. Record whether any votes

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were taken or no votes were taken as applicable. Uh, and then, you know, it it's to avoid editorialization or characterization of the conversation. So, that said, what did you guys think of the AI minutes that I sent out for the last meeting?

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>> I was fine with them, but I thought >> I mean, I need to add Rodney's name to them cuz he came a few minutes after we started, right? >> But I think that's the only thing that >> that's all I saw. >> Yeah. >> I thought they seemed fine as well. Did you do any work on those or did you

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>> I just I just I dropped the transcript in just read through it once it pumped out the eightpage document >> and you made no changes to it. made no changes to it, send it out as is. >> I think that's great if that's how it came out because there's usually work that you need to do to get it structured

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the way that you want and things like that. So, yeah, I thought it was really good. So the question the the prompt which took me a little bit to engineer the prompt to get it to do that was I had to >> the prompt was review the transcript,

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analyze it and then create a a minutes document that is compliant with open meeting law in Massachusetts. >> Yeah. [snorts] So and did you try doing that or no? >> No, I did. That's how I got that. >> That's how you got >> Okay.

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So, if you guys are good with that, we'll vote on that. We'll vote on that at the next meeting. >> Get it done quicker. Yeah. >> Yeah. Right. And if it's giving us trouble, then we can we can readjust. >> We can always go back. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Okay. So, I will um we'll put that on

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the calendar uh to be voted on for the last set of meeting minutes. And um and Caesar, when we get a chance to get that transcript, when you get a chance to send that over, I'd certainly appreciate it. I know it takes a bit of time, but >> you know, you will get them when I send

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the recordings out. >> Very good. Thank you, sir. >> You're welcome. >> Okay. So, we will close out the meeting minute section of the agenda and we will move to line item transfer. Anybody have a pen? >> Yeah.

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>> Everybody. Oh, I can't speak. I can only speak for myself. >> So, we'll start with the first one. >> All right. >> So, this is a request to transfer $8,500 from the account of capital projects storm water management. Uh, it was budgeted amount for this year of

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$80,000. The current balance is 6829776. The reason for the excess is that the account is for ongoing projects. They are requesting to move 8500 to highway storm water management which is just a different line item. Uh the budgeted amount for this fiscal year was

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$100,000. The current balance is8,456 82. >> So this takes care of the final invoice for the year from the consultant. Is that correct, >> Lindsay? >> Yeah, that is Can you guys hear me? >> Yes. >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. I'm on my phone because my microphone my computer's not working. Um, so yes, that is up to date. That is all set. That is the final number. Um, I think they thought it was one like the article from the last town hall meeting,

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the 3B account, I think they thought it was all one and it wasn't. It was separate. So that's why um there was that shortage there. >> Okay. Anybody have any other questions for Lindsay? So Steve has all the invoices

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from the consultant regarding the um storm water. Correct. >> All the bills have been paid. >> Okay. So this is for the fourth quarter of the year then or the family. Okay. I'm good with that then. >> Good with that? >> Yep. >> Anybody have any other questions?

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>> No. >> Is there a motion to approve? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? There being none, this is approved. Okay. Next

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to request a transfer $1,245 from the COA clerical wages. The amount budgeted for this fiscal year was $45,643.50. The current balance is 40950.70. Uh the reason for this excess is that

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employee resigned and it was never refilled. We would like to move the this money to the town hall electricity. The budgeted amount for the fiscal year was 21500. The current balance is negative2447.

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Uh this is due to the cost of electricity increasing. Once again, I'll ask Lindsay. This the last electrical bill for the year. Correct. >> Um, every single bill for every single department. Housing line transfer.

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All the bills have been received. All the bills have been paid. These are the final negatives for all of them. >> Okay. Perfect. Thank you. >> Anybody have any other questions? No, sir. >> Is there a motion to approve this this transfer?

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>> So move. >> So moved. Second. >> All in favor? >> I I. >> Any opposed? Hearing none. This is approved. Okay. Next on the hit parade, it's a request to transfer $33,163

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from COA clerical wages. The budget for this fiscal year in this account is 45643.50. The current balance is 40950.70. The reason is this employee resigned and it was never refilled. This is to go to

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the treasurer and collector clerical account. Uh the budgeted amount for that for that this fiscal year was $124665. It is currently $33163. Due to the override not being passed, we

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had to pay out vacation time for an employee who was laid off. Anybody have any questions? No. >> Nope. >> No. >> Is there a motion to approve this? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I.

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>> Any opposed? Hearing none. Approved. [clears throat] >> Okay. Next up, this is a a request to transfer $3,358.24 transferring from the COA clerical wages. This budgeted amount for this

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fiscal year was 4564350. Current balance is 4095070. This employee resigned and it was never refilled. This is going to move to the account of law general counsel. The amount that we had budgeted for this fiscal year was

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$125,000. Current balance is $3,358. Uh this is because five union negotiations have gone on longer than expected and an increase in public records requests that needed to be sent

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to our town council. >> So I would ask the same question on that one. I'm trying to ask the others. Is there any given that it's the way that that's written, it sounds like some of those issues may not be resolved yet? Um, and if they're not resolved, is there any additional bills that we would

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expect to come in on the attorney side for that? >> Sure. It's a great question. So, Steve, are all the union contracts done? >> No, I was working on it today, but I'll be working on till probably September. >> Okay. So, is

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>> But that will be build under FY27. >> Okay. So, we've been build for everything through 63026. >> Yes. Okay. >> Okay. Perfect. Right. >> All right. Anybody have any other questions? >> I have a question only about uh Stephen

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the the ongoing negotiations are any of them settled or all the we have five municipal unions. Is that correct? And then are any settled or no? >> Um at this point no we're pretty close I would say on two of them. >> Okay.

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>> Thank you. And just real quick, Lindsay, crazy question, but do we have any type of acknowledgement from folks that are saying recognizing that we have no outstanding balances that will carry over for FY26, or is this all just

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assumption that we're making based on what we've seen? [clears throat] >> Um, I'm sorry. Can you repeat? Um, cuz I'm on my phone. It's like a little weird. >> It's garbly. Um, so do we have anything from writing from folks like this that are acknowledging that we do not have

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anything that would be build over to us for FY26 that we're not aware of? >> Um, I did ask on all of the accounts that were negative or all the accounts that like the electricity and the heating and oil and made sure that

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everything I had was everything that was received. It was all up to date. It was all through June 30th and all of that. So I was told that everything has been received. >> So >> were you told verbally or in writing?

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>> Um both cuz I did send an email asking. >> Okay, great. Okay, that'll work. >> Cool. >> All right. Anybody have any other questions? >> Is there a motion to approve this transfer? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? I

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>> I any opposed hearing? None. This approved. >> Okay. Next, this is an amount that they're requesting to transfer is $1,000. They are moving this from the COA clerical wages. The budgeted [snorts] amount for

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this fiscal year in this account was 45643.50. The current amount is 4095070. uh this employee resigned and it was never refilled. This is going to the clerk's salary. Uh the budgeted amount for the clerk salary this year was

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76857.00. The current balance is999.87. Uh this is due to the clerk receiving a siphon once they passed their clerk's exam. Sue took and passed the exam year. So the stipen was not budgeted for.

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So I just so just and then I only have one question here and and someone else may have something else. My question is procedurally when we schedule when these tests are scheduled is that something that's discussed like you know at the beginning of the year with the employee

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saying I'm going to take this test and we budget for it at that point or is it just whenever the employee wants to take the test is when it happens? >> I don't [clears throat] know. Um, so the tests are done once a year on my understanding. However, if you don't

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pass it, then obviously you don't pass it, >> right? >> Um, so it's not so much that it's unplanned in the sense that they just decide to go to the like take the test and we didn't know. It's more so we

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don't know if they're going to pass or not, >> right? >> So they take it once a year regardless. it the uh it comes up once a year. >> So, does she have to re is it is it a

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year after test? It's not going to come up again, >> right? Is it a yearly reertification or is it just she takes the test and that's it? >> No, this No, this I my understanding of it's a >> it's a one-time thing.

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>> Yeah. >> I have a question. Is this uh $1,000 stipend permanent addition to her salary or is this a onetime uh stipen for successfully passing the test this year? >> It is added to her salary.

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>> Okay. >> Did Did we Did we budget for that for 27 when we did the budget? >> Yeah. >> Is that in 27th's budget, Lindsay? >> Um I believe so. I would have to double check. >> Okay. Please check for us. Thank you.

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[snorts] >> Okay. Anybody have any other questions? >> Is there a motion to approve this transfer? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Passes.

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All right. Okay. So, next transferring $5,329.118 from the COA clerical wages. This account had $45,643 in it. It is now holding $40,950 or so

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since we've been taking some out of it. Uh this was from a resigned position that was never refilled. This is to go to gas and oil for all departments. We budgeted $110,000 for that for this year for FY26. The current balance is negative $5,329.18.

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The cost of gas and oil has increased is the reason for this deficit. Anybody have any questions? Nope. >> If there are no questions, is there a motion to approve this transfer? >> Some second. >> All in favor?

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>> Any opposed? Hearing none. >> Okay. >> Right. >> Okay. >> It's It's the end of the year. [laughter] >> We can do them all at once. >> Yeah. Well, they they usually you can you can only do these from May to the end of the year apparently. >> Still with 42 minutes right here. All

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right. [laughter] >> Okay. So, next is a transfer of $9,424.28. Uh this is for the uh coming out of the COA clerical wages due to a position not being refilled. There's a balance of $40,000 in this account. We

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[clears throat] are going to move this. They want to move this to heating oil for all departments. Isn't that the same thing? >> Sign. >> No, it's not. This one is um >> Well, what's what's gas and oil?

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>> Yeah, gasoline and oil for your car, other vehicles. >> And then the other one is under highway for like the gas. >> Can you send that one back down this way, please? It's >> right near gas and oil. >> Oh, you got it down there. Got >> here. Yeah.

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It's this one here. Sure. Yeah. >> Okay. Gas and oil. Okay. Oil vehicles. >> Yes. >> Rolling stock. >> Okay. >> Oil stand for diesel. Got some oil >> maybe.

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>> Okay. >> That's interesting. >> Okay. So, the account the the heating oil account was budgeted for $53,000. The current bud balance in this account is -424,028. The cost of heating oil had increased

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and we had a very cold winter. >> Anybody have any questions? >> And I will agree with that statement. >> Cold winter or heating? It started early. >> Yeah, start early >> and hit it all jacked up when the

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situation in the Middle East. >> All right. Any other questions? Is there a motion to approve this transfer? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? So moved.

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And then just so everyone knows after all those clerical COA wages, the account has $20,000 $20,262 remaining that will get turned out to precash. >> Very good. I was getting quite curious

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cuz we were >> beating it to death there for a >> nickel and diamond. >> Okay, still got a few more to go. transferring an amount of $7,475

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from the streets street lights and electricity fund which that budget that was uh budgeted for $48,500 that current balance is $8,714.54. Uh the electricity costs had gone down for the street lights. Um this is to be

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moved to highway barn maintenance. the electricity there. Fiscal year budgeted was $7,000. The current budget for this account is7,047. So, I'm I'm curious how how we spent double the amount of

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electricity in the barn. How how did that happen? >> That I do not have an answer for. So, what's can you tell me what's in the budget for this year for the highway

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barn maintenance? >> Um, I can get back to you. Yeah. Um, I do know that when we were doing the credits last year that I believe we budgeted less

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than due to those credits um cuz we were supposed to be getting more. That obviously did not happen. So, I do think that for the electricity on top of it costing more, we also might have budgeted less because of the credits that we were supposed to be getting and

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then buying for cheaper, >> right? You have a double. >> Yeah. Why? >> So, we spent $14,000 on electricity >> versus seven last year, >> right? Well, it was budgeted for seven. >> Budget. >> So, we budgeted for seven. We spent

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double that. >> So, that just doesn't sound like really good planning. And >> Lindsy, what are the what are the credits typically worth in any given year? Are they worth a couple thousand, couple hundred? You have any estimate of what they pass?

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Um, >> have you ever thought Sorry, it was like you were breaking. >> Yeah, that's okay. Uh, past credits that you spoke of that allowed us to buy cheaper electricity, uh, for how much were they worth for us on a yearly basis

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in the last couple years, if you can recall, particularly for the highway, barn electricity? >> We So, we only really did it for a portion of last fiscal year. It was um our old time administer Cody. He was the one that really like

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looked into all this, set it all up. He did all that. So we finished the year paying a certain amount each department a certain amount of money and that was supposed to last us for a certain amount of time. Um

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we were then going to do the credits again with another town. I don't remember what town it was. Um but that ended up falling through. So it was staggered during FY26 when different departments were running out of credits

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and started getting their bills. Um and then we just obviously we didn't do the credits again and we did budget based on doing the credits again. >> And these credits >> each department I don't really I don't know off the top of my head. Okay. what

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was for who and how long it >> Yeah. I'm just trying to understand a what the credits are. Who are we buying them from? Are they solar credits? Are they credits for buying energy at a cheaper time of day? Wholesale? Are they buying being bought from another

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municipality municipal plants where it typically is cheaper? >> Uh because as Jim pointed out, you pay double for electricity just for the barn. Is it because electricity just got a lot more expensive? Is it because it was really cold last winter and they had to do a lot of work inside the barn for

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for snow removal? So, they were people actually physically in there a lot. Were they using in >> I'm not going with that cuz we already fig >> but um [clears throat] I want to say we bought the credits off

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of I'm going to get it wrong. I want to say Brockton or something like that. >> He bought them from Cody bought them from that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I honestly don't know how the credit

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situation worked. I just got the bill schedules to pay before he told everyone what to pay and how [clears throat] he was there on all those conversations. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So, probably got a bunch of cringe in there and it's where a lot of that's coming from. Plus,

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weather would really wouldn't have really made a difference down there in the farm if the electric heating oil. >> That makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Unless they're leaving the lights on all night or something. >> It's heating up. >> Yeah. >> I I don't know. It just It just seems

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like poor financial or budgetary management on the part of the department to spend double what it is. I mean, we would it this didn't just happen like, oh my god, I I now have spent $7,000 in

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electricity. So, I I think there's I mean, we can't we have this has to go through because we need to balance last year, but I think moving forward, we need we need much more diligent oversight on this kind of stuff, especially if costs are

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going to fluctuate the way. >> Yeah, if they are fluctuating, you should see that already. how much is depleting your budget numbers and you should be ahead of the game in figuring out what we're going to do instead of waiting till July. >> Well, I think the bigger question is do we bud do we [clears throat] budget the

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right way for 27? >> Yeah. No, I don't think we included any credits in the budgets because it had all fallen apart by the time we get to >> I think we knew by then that it wasn't going to happen. >> Right. We Right. Okay. >> So, we should have carried an increase on the 14,000. >> Yeah. Right. Right.

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>> And I can check that tomorrow. >> Please do. But it is electricity. It's not like it's Amazon bills and stuff that could have been avoided, you know. >> That's that's that's very true. Anybody have any other questions? >> Motion to approve?

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>> So move. >> Second. >> Very good. All in favor? >> I trying to change. >> There you go. Okay. Next. >> Oh, yes.

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>> Oh, yes. Oh, come on. It's it's it's July, you know. >> Okay. Uh here is the request to transfer $4,533.35 from the library clerical wage. The budgeted amount for that for this fiscal year was $286,763.

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[clears throat] The current balance in that account is $25,23848. The reason for the excess is at the start of the end at the start and end of the fiscal year, multiple positions were frozen that became vacant and a full-time worker started working the

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year working five less hours per week than they were contracted to work. They want to move this to library expense books and materials. The amount budgeted was $57,9967. The current balance in that account is

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higher, >> right? >> 62,500. Is this correct, Lindsay? >> This seems This seems backwards. >> Mhm. >> Um, >> it is probably backwards. Um,

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>> hold on. You want more? I I don't I'm gonna hold that. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah. I think that's backwards because >> same for the next one from Dylan. >> The library expense supplies.

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So [snorts] he needs to rework these >> before Wednesday, right? >> Yeah. By Wednesday, >> which day after month? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, this will be coming down the side. >> I have a I have a call at 6:00 set on the calendar for us. 6 p.m. virtual call

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for anything. >> Okay. >> Cuz that's the last day for any other >> Oh, that's right. Yes. Okay. So, we're going to hold the library ones. I don't think there's any others. I want to make sure I'm reading those. So, those two are going to be held,

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Lindsay. Okay. >> There should be hope. Two for police. >> No, no, no, no. I I'm just saying I'm just holding the library ones now. We're still going. We have more to go. >> Oh, I thought you meant there was no more. >> No, ma'am. >> We can't make the changes here, Jim.

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>> No. No. department heads. He's got it signed. He's got it signed. >> Yeah. And I don't know what what the balance is currently. >> Correct. >> You know, so there's just some some detail that he needs to provide to make sure that's right.

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>> So those are held. >> Okay. So next request, please transfer the amount of $520 from IT program and training budgeted for this fiscal year, which was $2,000. The current balance in that is $2,000

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[clears throat] to the technical support specialist wages budgeted for this year was7 $74,161. The current balance is $517.40. Uh this is a longevity

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uh award for uh for this for this account. So it was not budgeted. Shouldn't it >> should have been >> it should have been. >> Well, >> do we have this? Is this going to happen

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again next year, Lindsay, or do we have it budgeted the longevity factored in? >> I believe it is factored in. This was the first year that Caesar was eligible for longevity. So, I I just think it was an oversight.

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>> Okay. All right. Anybody have any questions? Is there a motion to approve this transfer? >> Some move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> None. It is passed.

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All right. [clears throat] Almost at the end, everybody. >> Okay. So, next, please transfer the amount of $990.70 from the police expense account. This account was budgeted for $70,000. The

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current balance in this account is $3,937.82. Uh, they didn't have any more invoices for this account at the end of fiscal year 26 is the reason for the overage. Moving to the police wages account. Budgeted for budgeted amount for this

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fiscal year was 1,43,943. The current account balance is negative90.70. They had an officer out for leave on 6 months and had to cover his shift with overtime. Certainly makes sense to me.

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Anybody have any questions? Is there a motion to approve this transfer? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Hearing none. So moved. Next. transfer the amount of

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$1,137.82 from the police expense account. The budgeted amount for that fiscal year for this fiscal year was $70,000. [clears throat] Current balance is $3,937.82. The reason for the balance is that at the end of the fiscal year, it did not have any more invoices attached to it.

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We're going to move this to police clerical wages. The budgeted amount for this fiscal year was $57,910. Current balance in this account is $111,3782. Uh the reason for the shortfall is the account was short at the beginning of

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FY26 by $1128 and overtime was needed to comply with public records requests. >> Is it normal for their expense account to run that that far in the low? Chief,

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>> did you hear me? >> Yes, sir. >> What was it? >> Is it normal for the account to to run down into the negative? >> No. On the expense on the expense account side, is it normal for you to have that that variance? What's it about?

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>> 4,000. >> $4,000. >> $4,000. >> Yeah. Well, it was uh obviously seeing what was going on in the town this past year, we were very careful about our spending. Um you know uh so it's usually um we

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have a little over it's not as high as uh this past year, but obviously we were, you know, extremely careful on our down our spending account. >> So you guys paid you paid close attention to it, Chief throughout the course of the year. You watched it there.

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How are you? >> You you paid close attention to it throughout the course of the year. That's essentially what you're saying to keep it where it is. Okay. >> That's good stuff. >> Good. >> Anybody have any other questions for the chief? Any questions about the transfer?

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>> Is there a motion to approve said transfer? Some move. Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Any opposed? Seeing none, transfer is approved. Okay,

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on to this year's business. Okay. All right. So, these are transfers for FY27. So, these are reserve fund transfers. First one, it is hereby requested to make the following transfer from the

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reserve fund in accordance with chapter 40 section 6 of Massachusetts general laws. The amount requested is $48,762 to be transferred to salaries for town administrator, assessor, appraiser, police, deputy chief, fire chief,

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highway fulltime. Is that what's FT? >> Fulltime. fulltime >> full-time highway full-time and highway clerical. Um the amount requested will be used for contractual obligations and wages that were being negotiated prior

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to town meeting. [snorts] Negotiations were ongoing and have since concluded with an effective date of July 1st questions, comments, queries. We have this it's just this one for we have to sign three copies of it. >> It's for all the all the different

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negotiated. >> I don't think I included the email of the exact amount. >> I got it. >> I can certainly read that. >> Yeah, read that. >> Okay. So, let me read this into the record at least. So, the amount of $48,762 is broken down in this manner. Town

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administrator $3,000. Principal assessor and appraiser $3,044. Police chief, deputy police chief, $17,228. Fire chief, $17,117. Highway wages, $7,161.

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Highway clerical, $1,117. Questions, comments, queries. So, everyone's under contract. That correct, Steve? >> For the race >> on that list? Yes.

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>> On Yes. Regarding this, right? Okay. >> Yeah. So, just a little clarification. Um, on my line, it was >> $3,000 that started as of July 1st that I didn't notice. So, my line went up from 150 to 153 on July 1st. Um, the

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highway full-time is encompassing all of their staff and that's that $7,000 and change amount. So that's the entirety of the staff full-time wages to bring them up to that 2%. Um, and then uh highway

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clerical was Kathy Garland's uh position so down at the highway department to make her contractually um square. Uh the other one was the appraiser assessor to bring that position to step one in accordance with FY2027 tables as we went

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out to advertise for that position. And then what was the other one? Is there another one? >> Uh uh deputy chief and police chief. >> Yeah. >> Fire chief. >> Fire chief >> minus the fire. >> Yeah. Minus the exact detail. This is

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all available to the public record. um their their contracts which are signed and uh sealed now. Um I can talk about some of the details um there or you can just request the contract and we can talk about a later time. >> Um

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>> but that being said, that's the reasoning behind those amounts. So part of them were in negotiations and part of them are corrections to make sure we're contractually uh we're meeting contractual obligations. So it's sort of a mixed bag. I just want to clarify the original statement. >> Right, Steve? Regarding the assessor

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appraisal, did we get get someone on board yet? [clears throat] >> Uh the board of assessors meets tomorrow afternoon before uh the select board. So um they will be talking about their next steps tomorrow, I guess. Um so we'll

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find out more. >> All right. So are they submitting a candidate tomorrow? >> Um they had chosen a candidate and the offer fell through. So now they have to make a decision on um where to go next. >> Okay. >> So that's up to them.

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>> Okay. Thank you. >> Very good. >> Good. >> Okay. So Steve, I just want to make sure that that we're clear. The the police chief, deputy chief, and fire chief, they're all squared away, right? >> The Well, Chief Charles is under his

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current contract, >> right? Um, Deputy Chief Banner is a one-year deal and the fire chief's deal is a three-year deal. >> Okay. Right. >> But they're all t they're all signed and sealed and ready to go. >> Okay. >> Yes. They're all under contract.

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>> Okay. Very good. >> Right. >> Right. Anybody have any questions? >> I'll make a motion. >> Is there a motion to approve? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I [snorts] moved.

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Three copies, gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, Lindsay, I'll just slide these back under your door. >> Or do you want me to put him in Caesar's office? [snorts] >> It doesn't matter. Whichever. >> Okay.

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Very good. All right. That closes out agenda item three. Anybody have any further comments on it or any conversation you would like to have around that? Okay. So, we will move to the next

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agenda item which is FY27 July uh finance actions for the town. So, I just want to make sure one of the things and is to confirm that all of our departments are operating under the current appropriations as voted at the last town meeting. Is that correct?

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So, everybody's got their budgets. Everybody's working under the new numbers that they have. Yes. >> Yep. Okay. So, and we just finished reviewing all the close out for the prior year. Um, uh, purchase orders and unpaid

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invoices except for the two that we had talked about. Need to take pictures. Um, [clears throat] so for everyone's edification, and we'll talk about this at next meeting planning, I did set a meeting for Wednesday night. It's just a Zoom call in case there are Well, now there is two

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things we'll have to discuss um to uh just to make sure we clean up anything that comes in after this. So, we got the two library appropriations here uh that we'll have to vote on once they're corrected and uh anything else that comes up over the next two days.

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>> And what time are we going to do that normal time? >> 6 p.m. >> 6 p.m. Zoom. >> 6 p.m. Zoom meeting. [clears throat] Will we be signing them through the digital process that we >> once? Yeah. Once we'll vote on them so that we can close them out and then we'll do the digital signatures. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. Uh we've taken care of the line items that require reserve fund transfers at this point. Um any um so I know we have the special town meeting in July >> at the end of the month. That'll be on

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the 29th. Um, and I'm sure Steve will has has probably some updates on that when we get to his piece. Um, and then there might be there's most likely will be one later in the year regarding the capital capital expense. >> Okay. >> Yep.

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>> So, those are the issues for July that I have on our financial calendar for this month. So, we'll go ahead and close those out unless anybody has any questions or comments regarding those. saw something July 28th we're meeting with the secretary. >> Yes, that's we'll get to that at next

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meeting planning. Absolutely. We are >> that has so um capital planning committee update. So, we're getting ready to get those things back up into action. Um and Steve's obviously going to be kind of steering that committee

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when it comes to the planning piece. However, um we need to uh put a couple of people on there and Rod, I'd like you to take one of these roles since you're newest to the committee. I think you would it would be great for

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you to get in there and and listen to what the other departments need, talk to them about the capital expense, understand, you know, what monies are out there. You okay with that? >> All right. You want to take the other seat? >> Oh, yeah. I'll take it. If nobody else wants why don't you >> It's on the capital planning. Correct.

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>> Capital planning committee. Yeah. >> Anybody else interested? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Jim, I'll take it. Good. >> Take it off my hands. Thank you. >> Yeah, I know. You sat in that chair. [laughter] >> That's why we put you there, right? >> That's right. >> Come on.

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>> Okay. [clears throat] So, Frank and Rodney, I appreciate you guys taking that taking that up and uh I'm sure you will you will do a great job. So, Steve, just you Steve will communicate with you when the meetings are and um you know, you'll get the

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breakdown. I think there's a 5-year plan out there of expenses that you guys will get to have a look at. >> Um and uh >> there's a lot going on on when that comes in and that's going to be the main focus of the town meeting in in in the fall

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>> in the fall. And um on that, Steve, [clears throat] um are we going to have citizens at large on that again, Steve, this year? >> We certainly can. Um >> we've had in the past. Jonathan's on. He could explain it. Maybe.

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>> I think there was two last year. >> Yes. Okay. >> Anybody who we're going to have a select a select person on as well, correct? >> Yeah. >> So, it was it's usually the chair >> chair, right?

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>> So, it'll probably be Tom Tom Frack. >> Yeah. >> Um, two people from this finance committee, two members at large, and then Steve, right? Town administrator, >> you know. Yeah. From the selectment, it will probably be Bill Smith. >> Okay.

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So former former FINCO member um he is the capital planning leazison of the select as appointed this year. So ah >> dialed in so please treat yourself. >> Very good. >> Okay. Anybody have any questions about

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that? >> All right. So we will close out the capital planning committee meeting update. We'll move to the town administrator update. So Mr. Silvo, the floor is yours. All righty. Couple quick items tonight. Um, for those of you who are not aware,

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um, the if I know I sent out an email that's everything [clears throat] sort of melting together at this point for me. Um, the schools, so the schools turned on some circuit breakers and they announced that uh early last week that there'll be a $730,000

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turnback uh coming from the schools back into the town. So, while that's that's great news and um it'll benefit us in the long run, uh I think it upfront did some things to

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us um that impacted us greatly moving forward as we see the current situation and um it'll make capital planning a little bit easier because we'll have $700,000 more to be certified. And again

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question if we can get there to the certified cash and I'll explain that in a second but um that's that's the good news. So what happened here in essence so you guys get an idea of the background how this money came to be over a number of years the way the regional school district was set up uh

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money was collecting uh on in a a pot of sorts and this the town had always stipulated that special education was broken out of the line line items. Um, now they were forced to put them back in as of last year I believe if Lindsay I'm correct. Was it last year or this year?

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Those were forced back in but >> yeah last year I think. >> So last year started the new system where Halifax was sort of moving on it by itself moving forward. So when the house when the circuit breakers get turned on now the amount will be a lot less but for a period of time there it

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was building up. And what the schools did was by turning on special education transportation and special education tuition circuit breakers, they were able to pay for things at the schools that is now caused in essence the situation

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where they could turn back $730,000 in a one time uh capital fee or capital cost. So coming back to the town. So again, it is the true sentiment of free cash. It's onetime money. Um, and again, as long as it's certified, it will be available to

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be used at special time, meaning in the fall, which would then conservatively put us up to about a number of about $2 million. Um, again, so there's some numbers in order to get through before we get there as far as, you know, what's going to be taken out of the reserve fund in the meantime, what what will be

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appropriate for taking out the reserve fund in the meantime, uh, special town meeting at the end of this month. Um, so again, there's some moving parts there, but we should have conservatively close to $2 million available in capital planning. Um, >> now if anyone has any questions about

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that, I can certainly feel them at this time. Uh, before I move on to anything else, >> I I I just have a couple of questions. >> Sure. So I guess just from a um [snorts] just from

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trying to wrap my head around this whole thing. So what what [snorts] policies were in place that allow that? So was this a school policy that allowed this money to pull to such a large level? Um or was this a

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town policy that we allowed it to pull to this level? I'm going to have to defer on that one. I don't know the I don't know the history on this the way it was told to me. >> All right. >> Um so we

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>> we used to get the circuit breaker money Halifax did. >> Right. >> Um >> I think it was either 25 or 20 FY25 where it was starting in FY26 where we were no longer getting that money. right? >> It was going directly to

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>> the school >> and in us losing that money, >> they did say that there would be a turn back and it would be the one time. I don't know that >> we knew it was going to be as much as it is,

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>> but it was just I it might have been 25. So I feel like it was shortly after I started. Okay. >> I do remember the conversation of losing circuit breaker essentially. Halifax was >> right. Right. So it moved from the elementary school right

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school. >> I don't know that Halifax was letting it like get to what it was. Um but I know that we lost it because we were no longer receiving it. >> Sure. I understand that. But, you know,

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I I I'm I'm astonished >> Mhm. >> that a pile of money of $730,000 just built up and nobody knew how it happened. >> Um,

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>> you know, I'm So, I'm just curious, you know, what what were the reporting reporting processes or accounting policies or procedures? Were they in place and were they working? And this I guess is probably more for the school because this is where this happened. And

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what procedural improvements are we going to be looking for or have in place today moving forward to prevent this from happening again? >> I I think that the the people to answer that question

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need to be in front of us to have that conversation. >> I agree. I guess I mean I I hear I hear you as far as throwing throwing the thought out there right now, but I I honestly think that we need to have some type of conversation with the school committee to see how this is being how

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this type of stuff is being looked at here because I mean fortunately in this case it works to your favor but >> what if it doesn't, >> right? Well, that's that's the procedural piece, right? So moving forward that's I think more on the town.

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So, what are we doing moving forward to make sure this doesn't happen again? And yes, when we do talk to the schools, um that's a you know, how did this happen? >> Yeah. And I think and I think that Lindsay and Steve being a part of the conversation is important too from the

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>> town side to make sure that both Lindsay's area and administratively from Steve's end it's taken care of too. >> Yeah. Well, that said, we are doing a joint we are going to do a joint meeting with the selectman on the 28th, the day before special town meeting at which the school

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superintendent or the school accountant, whoever director of finance will be present to discuss this specific event. >> [snorts] >> Steve, is this in addition to the $200,000 that the regional district

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gave back to to the town at the town meeting? >> Yes. In addition, >> so $930,000 suddenly appears from the Silver Lake Regional School District.

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>> Uh this didn't really appear. This is this this is all on the up and up. So these are circuit breakers that were turned on legally by law and the way it was set up that money is now being turned back to the town. From my

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understanding, this money could have been turned back to the state as well and the superintendent made a decision to turn it back to the town instead. >> When were they turned on? >> When were they turned on? Um, I heard about this just prior to the

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school committee meeting last week. That's the first That's the first notice I got. >> These questions are more appropriate for the superintendent or the finance director. Not just >> No, no, no. I'm just I'm curious about when he got the information because So if

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>> Yeah, I got it during the day. So when was the school committee meeting last week? It was like Monday or Tuesday. >> Tuesday. It [snorts] was the day of their meeting, literally hours before. So, >> okay. Thanks, Steve.

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>> Steve, do we know can the state taken back from us? >> Uh, I don't I don't think so. Um, that's what I've been told is that the option was there to return it back to the state. It probably would have been probably redispers via assessment, I guess. But again, I'm not the expert on

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this. So >> okay, >> that's more of a question for school administration and school finance. >> All right. >> So until we get that affirmative, are we operating under the assumption that the money does not exist?

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>> Well, it has to be certified. Yeah, >> we haven't seen it yet. I mean, um, but we're in order to even use it, we're going to have to re we're going to have to certify it. Correct. have to come in and then be certified as free cash in preparation for special timing in the

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fall. >> I I Yeah, I guess my my worry is if we're starting capital planning now and we're going off the assumption that we're going to have $2 million to spend, but we don't find out or verify that we actually have $2 million to spend until September or October.

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>> Then what hole have we created for ourselves? Well, I don't think we'll cross that bridge at that time. >> I think it's just prudent to deal with what we know, >> right? >> Not what we and not what we don't know. >> To come on to that, I will say that at

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Maze Town meeting, we did not use we did I think two capital plans and it was one for assessors and I think one >> for something else. So we still have everything else which is right around a

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million dollar that has to get reertified because it on June 30th it expires but it was unused. So we definitely we have at least a million regardless of >> right right >> what happens with the circuit breaker

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like there is still a million. So we are still doing capital planning based on that. >> Yes. Not. We're We're not We can't >> That that money doesn't exist until the state says this is this is yours. >> I want to make sure.

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>> Well, that's [snorts] okay. You have further information, Steve. Please continue. >> Yes. So, as long as for all seven of the schools, we'll wait to talk to them on the 28th. Um get some final answers.

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constant questions and I believe me and Minsky will be meeting with um the schools before then. We we meet with them monthly to discuss topics. So I'm going to try to get as much information out of them the next time I sit with them as well too. So um I'll have one more for

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you potentially next time. Um regarding town meeting, special town meeting coming up here at the end of this month. >> Um so all in all, there ended up being six articles. >> Mhm. the four the four citizen petition articles >> and then the and then there's two other

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articles on behalf of the board. One of them is to resend the PAS article the way it was written. Not not nothing else than that. Just to resend resend it because we want to put something else in place. Um just with language that came

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from our uh accounting consultant that better suited the way the PAS funds are laid out and better suited for town meeting um passage and then usage by the water commissioners afterwards. So, um you will be able to see it in the

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war. I know Pam's been working diligently on it because again it's something that's been compressed by the timeline um and everything else. But with the first four items where many of them call for free cash issues, we we ultimately know that free cash can't be used after

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June 30th. I expect those items to either be indefinitely postponed um because I don't know what else could be done with them. Um, so, uh, that's that. There is the question of, uh, the $200,000 that went into the

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reserve fund and that question of that being rescended and pulled out, being reused, but depending on some was spent tonight, depending on whatever may arise as the month comes to an end, there may be more of that spent. So, we'll have to have an updated number for us for that

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night and leading up to the meeting just to make sure because literally that's probably the only source of funding this uh the citizen would have to pull from. So, in all all said and done, I think we're probably more worried about can we get quum. It will be at the elementary

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school. Um just so you guys are aware of that. We did consider the great hall for a hot second, but then we considered that we don't want to have to run this twice if we do get more than capacity. So, um we're trying to save some cost

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for that because we got to get a detail and >> you know, you got to get the room, you got to pay for pay for custodians to clean up the uh gym afterwards. So it comes with cost and again when we're coming with cost on a meeting that doesn't really necessarily have to be

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held. It's kind of frustrating. So >> that's true. >> Steve, just out of curiosity, what is the total cost for running this meeting? Do we know that number or can we have that number when it's all said and done? >> Oh, I plan on having that number available. Yeah, absolutely. I plan on having that number that number available

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moving forward for most meetings. um just between printing cost, paper cost, uh advertising cost, posting of the warrants, >> attorney's fees for reviews and file like last minute reviews and things like that. >> Yeah. Good. Okay. >> Yep. >> Great. >> Yeah.

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>> And you know, and then we can we can always estimate what uh town town council uh attendance at the meeting will be because it's typically eight hours times whatever the rate is. So um >> it adds up and I think residents knowing what the cost of town meeting is get is

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conservative. 12 to $15,000. This one should be cheaper because it's a very short warrant. Um, which we also don't know if we're going to have time to send it out and have to figure out what the stipulations are on that. Um, so we may end up being able to save on some

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postage because meetings that get commenced do get exemptions from postage. Um, so we're going to have to see where we stand there. >> It far exceeds it far exceeds the fiscal benefits, I guess, is my point. >> Oh, for sure. Right. For sure. >> And especially the fact that you got to

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call staff to be present and um you know police details and making sure they're you know no one's done that. >> That's for sure. So um but that's that's what we've been put on top meeting at this point. Um you'll see I mean I do

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have drafts of everything that's available. I believe hands coming to the uh finality of the war itself because it needs to be finalized to go to print I believe by the end of this week. So I mean we're going to post it on Wednesday

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for 14 days prior to um the actual event. So the edit so we're getting there. Another town meeting will be under our belts and then there's no questions on that. No. >> Anybody have any questions about that?

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>> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Thanks, >> Steve. >> And the last thing I wanted to bring up just as some food for thought is um is staffing Lindsay's department. And you know, I think we kind of just talked through the fact that we obviously have

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the finance that staff it, but now we've been put in a position where how do we go about doing it in the right way? um and the legal way. I think the client way uh because Lindsay does a lot for the town and now it's

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become the fact that because we've lost some staff done in the treasury department who also you know is going to be a loss. There's going to be some changes and there's going to be changes to the time hall hours and then just we need to really think about a plan in

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order to get a full-time or at least 32-hour assistant next to Lindsay because the ask we have right now to get a special C uh free free cash certification by September 30th and again this is compounded again by a

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little bit of the fact that we do have an accounting consultant that is currently unavailable um due due to some personal issues. So, we're up against it in that regard cuz that was what we were leading on in order to make this charge to get this done by September 30th.

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>> And we're hand we're hamstrung by that now. Um, and we're going to need someone to take the pressure off of Lindsay in that department. So, >> lot of options. That's what I've been going back and forth over the last 3 or 4 days this past weekend is figuring out or trying to figure out ways to get

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around it >> and work work our way into getting something in there that's more than 19 hours. Um, >> so that's a lot for you guys to think about as we move forward. Uh, it's the one position that is the most crucial

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right now. So what is is >> what are the issues that are are current as far as getting >> anything done for her? Is it finding candidates? Is it not having the posting out there? What what is the issue that you're having right now?

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>> Well, right now so she we were able to just get to the point where we're able to advertise for the 19 and 12 hours a week because we had a person in the position who was on um maternity leave. So for FMLA reason FMLA reasons the

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position was maintained um as filled. Now that person decided that they were no longer coming back. So that freed it up to be filled. We've been busy since then. And then now when me and Lindsay have now put the ad out, we've sat down and talked about it a couple times about

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the capacity of her position and what level of help Lindsay truly needs so that she can do the responsibilities of the town accountant's job. Um, Lindsay does a lot in that office and you know, payroll, which you could argue is

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probably the number one thing that town hall does, is at least 70 to 75% of our work week to be conservative at this point. So, we need that person to come in and be able to take on all of that payroll responsibility in a very quick

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manner and then to also uh help with bills because then bills has now turned into Thursdays for Wednesday and unfortunately we're just now in a position where it's not account who should be helping me develop the schedule that Jim worked on and

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developed for us to meet all the financial goals of the fincom and do these trackers and you build this bandwidth, the capacity of transparency. We're struggling to keep our heads above the water as it is right now. >> Yes. >> And Lindsay and what we're thinking

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about and and me and Lindsay can talk about this. You know, we've been talking about it very briefly. Now, as far as minimum, our minimum need right now is about 32 hours a week. Um, and I think there's a couple ways we could get there that we could talk about and then bring

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it back as a formal plan. Um, but that's the one position I've keyed in on as needing. We just need it back. >> So, I think Steve the I don't think there's any question at least from from where I sit seeing that Lindsay's

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department is >> is one of the if not the most critical that the town has right now. Not only because of the changes that have happened, but because of what we're up against moving forward, but also all of the conversations that we've had going through the budget process and

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these lining and transfers. Even tonight, a lot of them talk about policy that's being used to develop budgets and things like that. And it's hard for us to criticize that or ask for that to improve if we don't have a structure within a department that's able to do that. And that would be Lindsay's shop.

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So if if there's in my opinion if there's a way for you guys to put together a plan that gets her staff to where she needs to be, you work on certification through the end of September like you said and then from the end of September on, I think you need to find a way to commit that person to working on budgetary process so that

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we can see improvements from that as well long term. That will be my recommendation. That's I mean there's a lot of other people here that have input as well. So, so Steve, we're currently budgeted at 19 hours, correct? >> Yep.

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>> And we want to take it to 32 hours. >> What's the problem? >> Mhm. >> Yep. >> So, what do we need to do to get it to 32? >> Well, it say let them make the plan to us. >> And I think I think we advertise it at 32. We get the person in the door at 32.

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>> Hang on. We we we need to ensure >> that we you can't just create a debt obligation for a salary and say, "Well, we're just going to advertise for this and then figure it out later." >> We need to have we those dollars need to

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be figured out now before we start advertising for that. So, I'm not saying someone's going to run in the door and say, "Oh, I'll take that job." >> Right? But the fact remains is that we can't it's it is irresponsible to not have that lined up first.

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>> Yeah. And I think and I and I believe if I'm not mistaken that we had this conversation about this position prior to the the town meeting because we knew that if all of these cuts needed to happen that Lindsay's department was

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going to be the one that we couldn't see take a serious hit on because of the fact that she was going to be managing chaos for the town. >> Right. >> Agreed. >> We have to find it ahead of time. So is that what Steve just said though? Stephen just said he's looking at a plan

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to find the funding, right? Yeah. So once once they get the plan in place, so I think that's I think we're all for it. But assuming that has a plan that's compliant and and legally the right way, I think we get >> Makes sense. Yep. >> Okay. >> Okay.

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>> Makes sense to me. >> Looking forward to seeing it, Steve. >> Good luck, Lindsay. >> So I have one other question, Steve. One other question. you you mentioned that the consultant that we're using to help assist with free cash is

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um has had an incident. I think his wife passed away so he is now not available. Is is there are we waiting for him to come back or do we need to go get another consultant to keep this process moving because I think delays

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>> call delay that's going to cause us an issue if we're waiting for him to return unless he's already said he's going to be back at X date right if not you know he's I'm sure he's not the only consultant in the state that can do this

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>> yeah I'll have to reach Okay. I don't I don't want to I don't think we should I appreciate the the event. It is heartbreaking that this happened to him. Um but the town needs what the town needs. So if he's not if he's going to be gone

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for an elongated period of time, we need to look at other alternatives to keep this process moving forward. That's the that to me is the prudent thing to do at this point. >> How long has it been? I don't I I don't know. >> How long has it been, Steve? Do you know, Lindsay? Anyone? >> A couple weeks.

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>> Okay. >> Yeah, I was going to say like two. >> Okay. >> Is this a contractual position or is this a more of a PRN payment type uh situation? >> Uh they're about to submit a new contract which we'll have to also figure

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out and pay for. >> Is it a one-man shop, Steve? No, we have Bill Row currently working every Thursday with us. >> Okay. >> And he [snorts] works So the So the guy who's out and Bill are from the same

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company or are they two different people >> or two different? >> Same company. Okay. >> I believe that's the question you were asking. >> Yeah. So are the staff within the organization that can help us or not? Well, Bill is helping, but Bill is

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helping on the issues that also arose over the last several years. Um, so he's doing what he was contracted to do. Eric helps from a different level and me and Eric and Lindsay and Bill ourselves

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sat down and come up with a plan to certify free cash by September 30th with that being the sole focus, >> right? Um, so again, when we talk about familiarity, Eric's been on board how many for how long now, Wednesday?

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>> Um, with me specifically since Sandy retired, but he's been in Linda's treasurer's office a handful of different times of different consistencies and um yeah, so it's been a while.

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>> Yeah. So, but Eric is the the leader of that group and without the leader of that group, it's tough to ask Bill Row to make leadership decisions when he's not the leader. >> So, Bill is just doing what Bill needs to do. And if I have to reach out to

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Eric and find out what's going on, I'll reach out to Eric and find out. >> Yeah, we need to have a game plan. >> Yeah, we just I it's I'm just not comfortable just waiting till the guy shows back up >> again. appreciate I appreciate the event. I I do. I I feel sorry for him. I

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really do. But, you know, we we we do have 7,000 people that are that need this stuff done. All right. Anything else, Steve? >> Nope. That's it for me. >> All right. Very good. Thank you, sir. >> Anybody have any questions for Steve

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before we move to the next agenda item? >> Thank you, sir. Appreciate everything. >> All right. Thanks, Steve. >> Thanks, D. >> That said, we will close out TAN administrator update. We will move to correspondence and as may arise. Um, I think uh was it last week I got a letter that was delivered here to the town that

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I scanned in for everybody to have a look at uh regarding the COA and what had gone on over there. And I can certainly appreciate the services that they provide um and the fact that uh you know a lot of the time has been cut but um it's unfortunate but this is what the

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town voted for. So >> we are exactly where we want to be as they say. [snorts] >> Agreed. >> Okay. >> Anybody have So as may arise anybody have anything they want to chat about with the whole committee here? Anything

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that you want to talk about? Any interactions with the public? Any correspondence you guys may have gotten? >> Okay, there being none, we'll close out that agenda item. We'll move to public participation. Anyone on the phone or you're in the room? Questions, comments

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for the finance committee. >> Actually, I do have one, >> please. Uh, Chris, 129 Circuit Street. Uh maybe I've just forgotten what's happening since town meeting, but I thought a while ago we mentioned there were new programs coming in to streamline payroll and all that

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>> software. You're talking about the software stuff. >> Did that get put in holes? I don't remember correctly. >> Lindsay, we we just implemented it. Um it is a learning curve obviously. >> I do think that it's going to be very

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helpful and very good, but we are learning. This is our um today is our second payroll doing it in general. Um so still a learning curve and still taking up a lot of time because we're

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learning it. [clears throat] >> It would cut some other departments missing people. So it's just compounding everything, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Things just slow down. Things are just slowing down because we just don't have the people to execute.

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Anything else? Okay. Hearing none. Uh, next meeting planning. So, we have three dates. So, there is a 6 p.m. virtual meeting for this Wednesday for any uh for the remaining line item transfers so we can

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close out fiscal year 26. Um, I will be putting an agenda out for us to meet jointly with the board of selectmen regarding the schools on the 28th and then we have special town meeting on the 29th. >> I have a question on Wednesday and actually Lindsay, it's probably for you.

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Um, so we we vote and approve line item transfers on Wednesday night. When do you need those signed forms back from us? Um, that was a great question. They just need to be done by July 15th. I can't do

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it on transfers after that. Like, we can't submit them after that. Um, but the Celeste and meeting tomorrow, so they will be getting whatever theirs for tomorrow and then I'm going to scan them to you on Wednesday.

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>> Okay. >> So, it'll just be your signatures that are needed, not the Splunkman. >> Yeah. So it will I would say by the end of the week if possible. >> Yeah. So if we but if we if you send them to us and we approve them and Jim circulates as long as we get it back to

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you by the end of week. >> Yeah. So I'm going to send them out instead of Jim because the selectman I will have the signed copies from the selectman. >> Okay. >> So those will be the ones that get sent. Okay. >> All right. Cool. >> Very good. >> Okay.

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>> Mhm. >> Anything else? Very good. Is there a motion to adjurnn? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Hearing none. We are adjourned. >> Thank you all for coming.