[Music] We'll uh open up the meeting of the planning board for the town of Halifax. A meeting's taking place in the town
hall at 499 Plymouth Street in Halifax, Mass. in the selectman's meeting room. Today's date is Thursday, August 21st, 2025. And uh to make the announcement, the planning board meeting is being recorded
by area 58 and can be viewed on YouTube. Okay, just for uh attendance wise, we have uh our president the full board uh we have uh Amy Troop, uh Bert Gainer, myself, Tom Millius, uh a big welcome to
our uh brand new member uh James Walsh. Uh, and then we have uh Bruce Sylvester uh being zooming in from uh from Pots Unknown. >> Okay. Uh, I'll accept a motion to uh uh
accept the minutes as presented. >> The agenda? >> What did I say? The motion. The agenda. I'm sorry. >> That's okay. >> Do I have a motion to accept the agenda as presented? >> So move. And do I have a second? >> Second. >> I have a have a motion and a second to
accept the agenda as presented. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. I. >> Um. >> Unanimous. Thank you. >> Do we need to do all um not a vote like that, but all votes with um >> we need to Yeah. roll call because of
him being on Zoom. Remember, >> right? >> Sorry. >> So, what did you want to do? >> We have to roll call because we have the Zoom. >> Okay. Let's do the roll call. Lammy True. >> Yes. >> Uh, present. Myself, present. Bert Ka, Tom Millius. >> Yep. Yes.
>> Uh, Jim Walsh. >> Yes. >> Sorry. Jamie Walsh. And, uh, Bruce Sylvester. >> Great. Thank you. Unanimous. Okay. uh in order to uh I'd like to be
before we do the uh appointments, I'd like to kind of skip and go right down to we've been putting this off since we had uh haven't had a a full board member. So, I'd like to uh reorganize for uh the year now that we have a full
board. So, uh we will be voting for uh chairman uh the position of vice chairman and then uh position of uh clerk. So, uh, well, I'll start it off. I'd like to nominate, uh, Tom Millius
as, uh, chairman of the of the Halifax Planning Board. Uh, that is my motion. Is, uh, is there a second? >> There's a motion and a second. Uh, >> you have to do a roll call.
>> I'll just call I'll do a roll call vote. Uh Bruce Sylvester for uh Mr. Millius as uh chairman of the planning board. Your vote? >> Yes. >> Amy, >> no. >> My vote is yes. Tom,
>> yes. >> And Jamie, >> yes. >> Uh it passes 4 to one. All right. Now I'll uh accept u a motion for the position of vice chair.
I'll move Bert Gayner for vice chair. >> There's a motion on the floor uh to nominate Bert Gainner as a vice chair. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> There's a motion and a second. Again,
I'll ask for a a roll call vote. Bruce, your vote. >> Yes. >> Amy, >> uh myself, yes. Tom, >> yes. >> And Jamie, >> yes. >> Uh, unanimous. And for the last position
of, uh, clerk of the Halifax Planning Board, uh, I I'm hoping Amy would accept that position. I'll nominate her. >> Uh, there's a motion on the floor. I'll to nominate uh, Amy Troop. I'll second
that. >> Okay. Uh, I'll ask for a voice vote. Uh, Bruce. Yes. >> Uh Amy. >> Okay. >> Uh myself. Yes. Tom. >> Yes. >> And Jamie. >> Yes. >> Unanimous.
>> Okay. There's our new board. >> Awesome. Okay. >> Yay. >> Um >> want to switch seats? No. No. I I think I'm good right here.
>> The further away from the line of fire, the better. Um, we have some appointments. Um, we're going to start with 35A Industrial Drive. We've um had some input. I I don't know how much involvement you've
had. I believe you've spoken the applicant rather um Mr. Paul Nukem, I I believe you've spoken to the fire chief >> uh as I happened to do today and I think Bert's also spoken to him. Um there was
some confusion about the plan that you presented. Um when we when I first saw it, I was concerned that the buildings actually get a little closer and will be a little harder to operate inside. Um but after having spoken to the fire
chief, he seems to be comfortable with either combining the buildings. I didn't know if that was an option for you. >> Okay. that. So that's that that is probably the best solution to the whole thing. >> Oh yeah. >> And then you can leave the 20 ft up
front >> between the existing building and the first building. >> That's what you said from an office building to the other building. The other two buildings. [Applause] >> Correct. Yeah, that's that's exactly
what you said. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sprinkle. >> Well, if it wasn't sprinkled, I could understand the motivation for not wanting to combine them because then you'd have to sprinkle them. But if you're sprinkling them anyway. Um so, um
I don't know if anybody else has any questions. >> Yes. Uh I I met with uh Kai Chief and Tom the day before and uh he did I asked we asked him to send an email out so he had it all in writing and whatot and uh
I guess I'm making I'm making noise here. Uh his uh first concern was uh with the mass general law knowing uh that we needed a fire hydrant within 500 ft. I see it's noted on uh we we
received the new plan this afternoon about quarter or two 10 minutes or two something like that and I see you do have a fire hydrants actually on the property. I took a a rough measurement and got about 260 ft. So you it had to
be a a maximum of 500. So 260 270 is that what you got somewhere around there? >> I didn't measure it. I just knew that >> I just used a ruler. I just went by 500. So put it in on my property. Yeah, >> that's what I that's >> I just took a rough edit. See, it's up there in the top right hand corner,
Jamie. Right up there on the inside. >> And uh the other thing he was concerned with was moving the uh >> dumpster bed. >> Dumpster bed. >> The dumpster that was uh on the uh north side of the of the building. And I see you've moved that way way to the back. >> Yep.
>> Uh again, we went round and round about I I did not know we right here. This used to be here and and now it's way down here. But the dumpster so that the trucks can get get around. >> But the the dumpster >> the dumpster's here. >> Yeah, it
pointed. >> That's still in the way of the 20 inside the 20 ft though, right? >> No. >> Uh the dumpster is >> cuz there's 20 behind the building, >> right? >> Yeah. It used to be right here. >> Yeah, it was right on
which I was never putting it here. He just threw it on there. He said it doesn't really matter. No, no, you're all set. You're all set. I was looking at this and thinking building this down further. >> Uh the only other thing he mentioned, Paul, was that the uh the uh tight tanks, the septic and whatnot that
they'd be he used the term uh >> road rated. He >> he used the term road rated. >> They have to be your trucks are going to weigh a gazillion tons. And he was concerned with the fire trucks also. >> Yeah, they're they're all going to be rated. >> Yeah, they're all good. >> Yeah. >> So, uh >> these ones are already off. Yeah, we're
already going to do that anyway. >> Yeah, you know. Yeah, >> my only other question. >> I am going to do away with this grass here. >> Okay, that was my next question, >> which I told webbby, but he didn't he was confusing. I don't really know how to do this computer stuff and um Greg
wasn't in, so he's like, I'll try my best. >> Yeah, it was confusing over here where it said together. >> So, what are you going to put in? Is it uh gravel? Gravel recycle. That's what you would because you don't want to change the drainage calculator. >> Well, that was the other thing that the
if it was asphalt, >> but I still drainage in anyways, even if not. So, >> yeah, >> if I plan on paving it someday, they're taller to you there, >> right? And uh the chief wasn't too concerned. He he made mention and correct me if I'm wrong, Tommy, that as
long as there were three sides of of the structure >> that he could get around >> that he could get around with 20 ft. So, uh, where this originally was 12 and I think this was >> this is going to be connected. >> Yeah, >> I think Webbby was just having a hard time doing it. I'm guessing I don't know
why he left it like that. >> Was it like a passage 20 just in case you need a near enough room to get in there to side? >> No. >> Yeah. Right. Three feet isn't >> better off putting this together and leaving the 20 out here because otherwise >> Well, there was 12 here before. So, I
told him to to put eight more feet here. Yeah. >> And then there was only >> what? >> I thought it was 12. >> It was 12. It was It was 12. >> It was 12. >> This was out in front of me. >> Yeah. This is an old plan from Yeah. Yeah. It was 12.
>> This is for March. So 12. >> Yeah. So I told him to take the 12 >> the 12 from here, put eight here, >> and then take the other four and move the door closer. >> Yeah. That that's that's the smart move. Yeah. And >> I think the uh the gravel going around
too will make it more accessible. God forbid if anything happens. >> Well, this gives you the if you leave this at three, it gives you the three sides he needs without having to do too much work together, >> right? Yeah. But he only needs three. >> Yeah. >> So, >> which is I think this is going to be
better for you. >> Honestly, it it took a couple weeks, but I think this is going to be better for you. >> Well, yes and no. Um cuz originally my plan was to pack my trucks in here, but I have 10 acres in East Bridgewater that I'm going to put a building in and put all my trucks in and probably end up
renting these out someday down the road. Um but if anyone wants to rent them with a commercial vehicle, they can't cuz there's no sprinklers. So just sprinkle it and be done. >> And that was the other thing. As long as you're on the topic of sprinklers, uh he made a big distinction. the fact that
the existing building up front, the one that says existing building, Jamie, from the far left. Yep. >> Uh that is not sprinkled, but these two are going to be sprinkled. >> Correct. >> So he he did say he had he had some leeway to play with if as long as you know the two new ones was were sprinkled
and not necessarily the front one. >> Not the no vehicles in that one, right? >> Not the throw flying as the ointment here. He said >> and then that side is about a hair shop. Um >> yeah. um salon. Yeah. Salon. >> Oh, it is again. >> Oh, it's been for years since I owned
it. >> Well, that's this side, right? >> Bob rents this side over here and I'm on this side. It's like >> Oh, so you switched because originally all the plumbing was on this side. >> This is the the front. This is the street. >> Cuz originally the tanning salon was here originally.
>> Yeah, that's where it is. >> Okay. Yeah, but the beauty salon was on this. >> Yeah, that's why I was confused. Yeah. Since Cory owned it, when I rented Well, they might have moved it. >> When I rented it off Cory? Yeah. I' I've always been on this side and she's always been on that side.
>> Well, they probably just moved. The plumbing was all on this wall. So, they just probably put it >> I think it's plumbing on both sides of the wall to be honest. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The restrooms are down off the back on that side. >> Yeah. >> Well, in the middle, actually. >> In the middle. Yeah.
>> So, uh where are we? I guess uh bottom line if if the fire chief is happy, you know. Uh >> yeah. So there wasn't anything else or was there anything else? Any other >> thing that just came up which I wish you didn't say is parking for four units.
>> What do you mean? >> Like if you rent them out >> I'm not renting them right now. I'm packing my trucks in. I know, but in order to do that, you might have to come back and add parking in the future in order to run them up because am I wrong? Because I I don't think I am. I'm I I'm
just telling you because parking like now you're going to have employees for each one of those where now right now is >> not necessarily if there's storage you don't have. >> If there's storage >> storage park your antique car in there. >> Yeah, if there's storage here have all that parking there. Yeah,
I was going to say you still >> you'd have to just make it. Yeah. >> I'm just letting you know that if they had like a secretary and like or you know or people going into an office there every day then it would require that. I'm not >> you would be parking.
>> Well, I have 25 employees now that park in the yard. >> I'm not being difficult on this point. >> Yeah, but you don't have the buildings there now. So, >> what's the bylaw? The bylaw for parking is that if you add it like so say you added these one, two, >> five, there's nine of them.
>> Yeah. Whatever you like just say you rented out four. If there was four employees of each one of them, then you'd have to have parking for it. Like it would and so we'd have to have you label out parking for it. >> You could do some along the side as long as you left your 20 ft around the building.
>> I'm just letting you know >> if if if and when that comes up, you have to come back. That's all. >> Yeah. It's all based on square footage of ceiling up here. >> You would just be adding parking. >> Okay. I'm just letting you know, >> right? >> You got parking. >> Any other questions? Jamie, what do you
got? >> No, I'm good. >> Bruce, you got anything? Any questions? >> So, no questions, actually. >> Yeah. >> I think we can approve it subject to
putting some couple of stipulations in there. >> Going to make a motion. You want me to stop? >> Sure. >> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve with the conditions that we've talked about. So, I'm just going to cite them for the letter. >> Yep. >> Um,
we're going to, just as a note, we're going to do you're going to do away with grass and make it um recycled gravel on the north side. That's the north, right? >> This is north is this way. >> Yeah. Okay. Just >> recycle as not gravel. >> You're sprinkling the one building. So,
we'll just need the plan to show that it's one building drive rated heavy equipment. Um, I'm sorry, drive road rated, right? >> For the subsurface structures, >> the subsurface structures and the five hydrant.
And the only question I have, which I meant to, >> this was different, so we should probably put that in. >> And um, the dumpster moved to the back southeast corner. The only thing that I'm just thinking of right now is does the fire hydrant need like the pylons
that stick out of the ground near it. So where the or anything like that or is it going to be enough out of the You might want it just in case one of the trucks hit it just grass area. >> Okay. I'm just saying as a note you might want to just so that nobody runs
it over. Does that make sense to you? You might want to think about installing something >> when when you do that. The water department might want you to put the B ballards in anyway just to protect it. So in case you hit it, we're not going to Yeah. We don't have >> And then it goes off skyrocketing in
water everywhere. Just a thought. I'm not necessarily think I'm thinking that just for yourself, not >> I see. >> Okay. So does that do you want me to make it more clear or you want me to just >> um if you just want to write those down if you don't mind?
>> I have them written on mine. Um my minutes I'll write them down as the meeting goes on. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Just just so that you know one more time so it's concise. >> Okay. So that we'll sign the plan that has the grass done away with with recycled gravel.
>> One building. It has sprinklers. >> Um how did you want me to say that Tom? All underground structures are road rated. Subsurface structures road rated. >> Fire hiding. Do I need to specify where
it need it it need 500 feet from the road? >> No, it shows it on the plan. >> As per the latest plan >> as per the plan. Yeah. >> And the plan shows the dumpster move to what I would call the southeast corner and that is >> that would be
>> different also from the plan. Does it have to be made mentioned that it's changed from 12 to 20 ft between the >> well as part of the plan? >> Yeah, as part of the plan separations as per the plan. So, so do you understand that like you'll just get us a plan that
shows that as one building and then is there anything else? Oh, and then when what's the name comes back have the grass taken away and then we'll sign that plan. >> Okay. Does that make sense? >> Okay. >> Am I right? >> Yeah. >> Oh, you agree to all that? You have to
agree to all that. You're all good. Okay. >> Who wants to leave here tonight with something signed as well? >> Well, I don't think we can sign this. Can we without the Cuz it's not going to be on here. We can But you is the guy going to be in tomorrow that we can cuz I I'll come.
>> Yeah. >> I don't know his schedule. I just know he wasn't in >> uh today to do it. We got the email the day before. So, >> well, we can >> Well, I mean, you can start he can start doing the site work based on it, but then just get that little sign. >> Yeah. I was going to say I get a building permit. I got all the
buildings. >> Okay. you the foundation. >> Yeah, you're you're good to go. >> We just need the the plan finalized so we can >> sign off on the plan and we can give you the >> and we can do that before the next meeting because as soon as it's in the office, we can all sign.
>> We'll vote it and sign it as soon as the >> We'll have to vote it in the morning. >> Is there anything else that we needed to add? >> No, as luck would have it, the fire chief um did call me around 4:30, 5:00 cuz mine was the only number that Kendra had. Um, so, uh, we went over and those
exactly the things we covered, so I think we're good. >> And, and it kind of goes along with the note that he sent in. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, we're good. >> You need a second. >> Yeah. >> So, there's a >> You're not used to doing it. >> There's a motion on the go. Sorry. >> It's all right.
>> Um, we have a motion to accept the plan >> as presented with the stipulations >> that were enumerated. Do we have a second? I'll second that. >> We have a motion and a second. We need a roll
call vote because we have somebody on Zoom. I'll start with Bruce. >> Yes. >> Amy, >> yes. >> Bert, >> yes. >> Myself, yes. Jimmy, >> yes. >> Sounds unanimous to me. >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, you've got to vote. We We have
to sign the document and and endorse a plan. >> It will meet in my law, right? >> Yeah. They'll they'll know all that. You don't have a myar at night anyway. >> Oh, what >> a a myar is almost what do you call it? >> Yeah, it's recorded at the reg.
He'll he'll get it all >> so that we can sign it and then that's what goes to the registry. [Applause] >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Congrat. >> All right. Moving along. Uh
>> can I have a piece of paper? Sure. So then I can wait on it. >> I've got some of it you already >> and then I want you to look over it and make sure it's all right. Okay. >> Um,
>> next up is 539 Plymouth Street [Applause] Planning Board special permit number 25-3. Is anybody here for that? >> Um, hold on. Is that Did you say 539? >> Yep. >> Okay. So, at the last meeting,
>> we motioned to have an extension on that. Um, just as a note, it's not on the meeting. I'm not on the line and I'm missing it. I don't think it's on the meeting. [Applause] >> No, but I the only reason I noticed it
is because I was looking to make sure that the date I think we gave 45 or 60 days. >> I remember that so that we had plenty of time to Okay. Do >> you know what I think? >> Close September. The end of September. >> That's right. Thank you. >> Um, can I ask for a convenience thing
that the expiration dates of the site plan just be put right next to each application that's on our agenda just so that we have it and it's easier. >> Yeah, that's a good idea. >> We always rely on you. >> Did Did you hear that, Danielle? Amy,
how much time do we >> Amy was suggesting it's probably a good idea. Um, when you list the uh the application to be reviewed, if you could jot at the end the most recent expiration date.
>> I can do that for you. Um, reminder, it is the applicant's job to extend if they need to. >> Yeah. No. Yeah, that that's a given. But that way at least we have quick reference as to when it expires. >> Thank you. >> Oh, he changes us as the new chairman
already. >> Lay down the law. >> Got that. Um, all right. Moving along. Planning board special permit 25-4, 590 Mosa Street for a site plan review. And
this says it's new. So, this is first time in, right? >> Yeah. They don't have a full set. These are roads today. So >> cool. And we did that job. Small one though. >> You already went to conservation. I think
>> I remember you. Yep. I I was there. >> When was that? >> And I love your outfit with your shoes. You look >> Oh, thanks. >> like years ago. >> Vintage today. >> Oh, it was. >> It's a little story. We got an 11 by 17
though. Just out of curiosity, have you spoken to the building inspector at all in terms of zoning? >> No. So, we haven't talked to him about zoning. So, I thought the next step was to go site plan review, but if it's not, >> well, site plan review is where you're
going to have to, you know, show up. But it always ends up being better to have a zoning determination that you know, I'm assuming the use is okay, but if you have at least an acknowledgement that the use is okay rather than get through all of this and have an issue with
zoning. Um, >> yeah. Is there is it a mixed use? >> No. So, the it used to be mixed use. >> Yes, it was. >> The permit expired because there was like a special permit or whatever. >> That was for the apartment upstairs. Yeah, there was two apartments upstairs and then there was three commercial on
the bottom and it changed to two commercial and then two apartments, >> right? >> And then the two apartments which was a mixeduse special apartment, it was only like 10 years or 15 years that expired. So now it's strictly back to business, >> right? And so that was the previous owner, not not the
>> same owner. >> When we first did the mix owner in on the zoning board, that was many moons ago. >> Yeah. And that was because it was pre-existing, non-conforming. And I think the idea was to let it continue because of that. >> But but when you bought it, it was still
being occupied upstairs, right? >> Yeah. So it was still two apartments up top and then it was three units on the bottom. Commercial units. >> Yeah. >> And then >> was the hair salon still there when you bought it? No, they were. >> Yeah. The hair salon we was there still >> they moved out like 3 years ago or two years ago. >> Okay.
>> Okay. So what are you going with? You said it's changed. I'm sorry I interrupted you. >> No, it's all right. So, um, we were gonna we want to put a coffee shop in our own. And then we also wanted to do a small vent space that does like popup shops, um, yoga classes, stuff like
that. So, that's what we were trying >> first floor and second floor, but the first floor is just the coffee shop and the event space. And then the event space is only second floor, not coffee shop, two floors obviously. And then small weddings possible. How are you
going to deal with uh handicap accessibility? >> Uh so right now it is handicap accessible not to the second floor. >> Yeah, I was going to say I >> the first floor it is for the first >> there's a ramp there's a ramp there. >> Yeah. So the second floor it won't be ADA.
>> So there aren't going to be residents on the second floor at all? >> No, there hasn't been. >> It's it's like no no residents. There haven't been residents in years. >> Right. Right. But it's not Yeah. >> No. So no residents on the second floor. We're not going for use. None of that. But but you you do want to use it for
commercials. I mean for >> events, >> classes and events and stuff, right? >> So you're still going to have to deal with accessibility. >> Yeah. ADA compliance. >> Yeah. I mean, you know that you're going to have to get creative there because you really >> you're going to have to get really creative.
>> Yeah. Well, I thought you but I thought if it was private host >> your own you need to talk to to the building inspector. >> All right, I'll talk to him. Who is it now? >> Uh Joe B. >> Okay.
>> He's here very limited amount of time. >> Is he interim or is he is >> he's a knowledgeable guy. I mean he can >> he's very knowledgeable and if you go down there cuz I think he's with a couple or another town at least one other town anyway >> from the cave.
>> Well they'll give you uh his business card and if you call him he's very good about either calling you back and going over whatever you want. So uh he is he's very knowledgeable about that. >> So I knew the one thing I do know we won't have is enough spots
>> parking. >> Yeah. So, we've talked to the church since they're across the street about leasing spots. >> No, I don't know how that would work site plan review. >> Is that what you mean? >> A large >> like how you would review that. You know what I mean? >> I'll be honest with you. I don't know
how you do that if you don't own the property if you >> have to get an No, we already talked to the church. >> No, no, no. I understand. >> You'd have to get an easement for use from the church. Yeah. Well, that aside, we've got to look for through the bylaws to see if it has to be on site.
>> Well, kind of like I was wondering when Bruce can't >> Yeah, that's an automatic. >> Oh, >> should we should we recess for a minute? >> Yes, >> Caesar. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Until I can get back. >> Do you want to announce that?
>> All right. So, we're going to recess for a few minutes. Do we get Bert Bruce back? Is Bert short for Bruce? >> Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Bruce B. Bert. Bruce. >> Is Bruce a full name or is it short for
something? Does anybody know? Since we were talking about we were talking about names before the meeting. >> Oh, okay. >> That's why that's why it's a joke to us. >> All right. >> Sorry. >> How long ago did we lose Bruce? I don't know. >> I don't know. I mean, we still have
quorum, so that's not an issue, but Give it a minute. You think >> we're 98% there? The screen was wonder back up. >> It's always that last 2% that takes forever. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, I know we're going to get a denial. I mean, the coffee shop passed before, but uh I don't know which building inspector. >> We talked about it, but it didn't pass. >> No. One building inspector put it through. No, but it would have to come to planning. So, it didn't pass. Like, they might have been okay with the idea,
but it still would have had to come here. >> I had a building permit for the coffee shop. >> Just the coffee shop, not the event. >> I was going to say you could probably had the parking and everything, but the coffee shop. Yeah. >> The change of use. >> I I don't know. I wasn't
>> Well, anyway, it's neither here nor there. I'm >> We just do the whole thing at once. So, we didn't even do anything in the coffee shop. >> Yeah. No, I >> did nothing. So >> well that's the smart way to do it is get everything you want to try to do >> you know in one shot see where it goes
>> rather than keep coming back peace meal and then that just makes it >> check for uh times too to see if in fact like say if you got approved for there may be >> through the holes there may be uh there he is >> hi
>> you're back excellent >> it may be only in force for >> a certain period of time a year or two years. Could be. So, just check it. What I'm saying, just check your time to make sure you're good. >> Have you heard most of this? So, do you need any recap? Okay. Most of it. Yes.
Just cut out a short time ago. >> Okay. Good. All right. >> So, you don't know the parking thing. That's never happened in this. >> I was thinking like a valet setup. >> It has 266 to 265 Ponet Street. 266
Monet Street being built. Now, the apartment um sorry, the condos. >> Yeah, the condos. >> They um have parking across the street. >> They own both properties and and they're putting in a crosswalk and >> No, I know. But it has >> true similarities.
>> I didn't want to go into the crosswalk thing, but you know, there are some >> Tom, I called you earlier today myself um about the whole crosswalk. >> Could you give us your name, please? Who? >> Patrick Skully. >> Okay. Yeah. Um >> Oh, I'm sorry. I
>> yeah the message said anyway >> been a busy day >> because if we did rent from across the street uh we wanted to see what the requirement would be for a crosswalk from the parking lot to >> Sounds like they want to avoid a crosswalk. >> Yeah. >> Who does?
>> Who does right there? >> Well >> not necessarily. No, no. I I mean I if you're going to have people walking across the street, especially for events, I think the crosswalk is a necessary thing. >> I don't know what kind of feedback we
get from everybody about that because it's in sort of a throughway there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, exactly. Where we we required a crosswalk or suggested a crosswalk up the street there is pretty close to where the intersection is anyway. So as
much impact >> and they were going to be it was going to be lighted. So >> the one on on a light no not a street light but >> a flashing light >> flashing light. >> Yeah.
>> As an option though like could let's just talk about this now. The possibility >> maybe getting an easement from the Catholic Church >> for parking. >> You've already talked to them, right? Would they put it on the deed? >> An easement.
>> I don't know. They might. I mean, they they're, you know, they might >> an easement for use of parking with a end date or a lease date or >> depends on how the hierarchy of the church feels about that kind of stuff in their property. You could do a lot of different things. You could do temporary
easements that have to be renewed with the understanding that if you lost the easement, you're shut down. >> Yeah. Right. Well, that's one of the reasons that I was saying that they should get one because if the church did cuz they were close to maybe closing
previously. So, it might it might benefit you in the future >> to see if they would give you one because then it would ride with the property >> if they sold. Do you see what I'm talking about? Because if all of a sudden that church sold. >> So, we're adding on the side. We used to
park trucks there. >> Yeah. And that could happen. I think it's like six spots maybe >> on the south side of the building. >> Yeah. If you're looking at the building left side on the outside, >> is there any room out back? >> No, because it's right in the window. >> I was going to say extremely >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's a
>> They didn't want us to take down any trees, nothing. >> Well, it's also a secondary water supply, >> so that puts it even more restrictive. >> So, there's there's what? 26 spots. >> 27 spots. demonstrate around the
building including community >> and we don't have any plans right now. Oh, is that the only one? >> So, we have coffee shop full set of plans and we have site plan full. >> The only thing we don't have full set of is the event space. Those are just like renderings and
>> so you're going to get us all updated and um >> so I can get you site plan final and cough shop final within like the next couple days. the event that space they're still planning and then I didn't really want to go full bore ahead with like a full set if we don't get approved.
>> Talk to the building more. >> You didn't want to go full board. I would definitely make an appointment with the building inspector. You sit down and let them go through it. >> He's usually in on Mondays, but I'd give him a call and >> Okay. >> See if you can set something up for him. >> Okay. >> My recommendation would be to honestly
talk to that church cuz if you got that event, >> you have talked to the church multiple times. No, I meant it. I meant further. I see about getting an ement because you if if all of a sudden they sold, then you wouldn't be able to do this. >> Depends on how they feel about wanting to sell it. They're not even want to
sell it with an easement on the front of the property. >> You don't want to see that because that messes up their furniture, but that's right. I say that's up to them. >> As far as like So, it is feasible to maybe do a crosswalk. It's just if it gets approved.
>> Yeah. I would have like public safety would comment. >> Yeah, we we have a we have a >> the highway department and the health board commented. Those were the only two departments. >> I keep forgetting how what they call the board. It's not the highway traffic safety board. It's the
>> I think I relied on Fred once to remember what that was and I can't remember. >> Traffic study. >> Maybe Fred is on traffic study. That's >> the traffic study, >> right? >> Yeah. they'd take a look at it and and see the feasibility of putting a crosswalk in or the problems with
putting a crosswalk in. We'd get a recommendation from them. >> Since you're here, what are your thoughts on that? >> Do you mind? Do you have any or not? Not not right now on the spot. >> Okay. Rock on. >> Yeah, there isn't really a whole lot to go on yet. Um, but the zoning I think is
is important to make sure you get your zoning determination. Again, you don't want to go through all this and then have him have a issue with it. Uh he can talk to you about parking, too. Um eventually we're going to send it out to a review engineer who's going
to also address parking if >> Mhm. >> you know, becomes an issue. Um or you might be able to squeeze a few more parking spots on the lot. Maybe. I don't think so. >> I'm pretty familiar with the site. So, >> it's like the 17 Bobby D or something. >> What's that?
>> I said unless Bobby D is >> he can't. Yeah, I I don't see that happening, but uh >> you could always park big equipment downstairs. That's the most incredibly built floor >> I've ever seen. >> No, it is. We sold our landscape though.
>> Oh, you did? >> Yeah. >> Cool. >> I saw your sign up on a house being built in Peenrook today. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's an insurance house. >> Yeah. I was going to say I'm I know that those houses were there. I figured it was a demo. >> See how fast it went up? >> Yeah. >> 6 days. Oh.
We moved our office to the building up here is empty. >> Okay. I've seen some projects in town. It seems like they put one stick up a day. >> I won't say which project that work. [Applause]
>> Okay. >> Um, good. >> One just a little business making sure. Danielle, do you know what day um they applied for a site plan? [Music]
It should be on the application in your budget. >> Yeah. >> 729. >> Yeah, I was just going to look for that. >> What is it? >> 729. >> So, really, we need to um have the full plans and go out for uh comment. So, as
soon as you can get those, but we're going to need more time on that site plan because if 7:29, we have 2 + 21 is 23. We're 22 days away. Our next meeting is September 4th. So, I mean, it's not like
we'd need an extension now, but we're going to need that plan. and we're going to have to send it out to all other departments for comments because you don't really technically have the full plan in >> the plan that that I have has been sent out to all the boards and the expiration for them is 8:23 I believe. So, they
should have all their uh comments in by then. >> Yeah, the building department had no comment. Health board had comments. We got back and then also the highway got back today. They wanted the snow pile location changed and then they had a
problem with maybe some runoff. >> I was going to say you don't have a whole lot of room to mess around with. >> I we said in concom we said that we would remove this if we had to we can make that stipulation. >> Remove it to where did you stipulate offsite? >> No offsite.
>> Offsite that there's a whole bunch of regulations for offsite removal >> on the ement. >> Well, we can't just push it down. We can push it into the water in the back. >> Send it to Logan for the island. >> So yes, like we put
so like the plants for the >> it's not like when I say full set like there's still like drawings. It still shows that type of stuff and then there's seat count which we added in I think yesterday. >> Yesterday they added in seat count and stuff like that. So
>> is that one of the plans? That's Yeah, >> that's the coffee shop. The coffee shop has a full set. >> So, it's two different spaces. >> Yeah. >> So, coffee shop and event space. So, this would be the event. >> Is the event place going to be upstairs? >> Oh, the left side of the building. The
event space is the left side. >> That's why I'm saying we need to talk to the guy. >> Do we have a elevator needed for that? >> Well, that's why I'm telling he needs to talk to the building inspector about >> compliance. Well, that's the only way you're going to do it. But
>> so what I >> huge money >> So if there's going to be changes to the plans that are great, then we'll have to send them around to boards again. Right. >> Right. >> Especially if we're adding Yeah. Especially if we're adding a crosswalk
and all that. Now we'll have to be sending them around to But I was just saying like they did start making comments. >> Okay. Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. Well, that's good cuz then you get some feedback to I mean we have to finalize it all. And you guys are under the gun, too. >> So, we're not wasting time if you start with the building detector.
>> Yeah, that's >> that's my recommendation. >> We already talked to I think it's Bob. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the stuff he got uh the only thing he needs is the title five, but we had a title five from like a year or two ago, but we're just going to do another one. >> They're usually good.
>> Only thing you guys are are under the gun also because your application date, what was it? 7:20. >> 820. Oh, 7:29. You can always apply for an extension, but you have to you have to apply for the extension. >> I Yeah. >> So, you'd have to apply for an extension.
>> Uh because keep that in mind. >> If if the application the site plan came before us and it was incomplete, like there was only half the building done and we didn't have the >> if we were running down without an extension, you'd be getting a notebook. You'd be
>> then you want to get the water for Yeah. Yeah, that's why. >> And it's not our obligation to chase you around to get it done. You know what I mean? It's >> I like to remind everybody to be fair. >> That's >> Yeah. Yeah. No, reminding is fine. But
at the end of the day, the onus is on the applicant to provide >> Yeah. >> a, you know, form of request, either at least an email or >> Yeah. >> a letter or something. >> Tom, I have a question um for you specifically. We we're talking about
zoning where they said the building department didn't have any comments. >> I I don't want to speak for the building. >> No, no, no. I don't. I'm just meaning like we need to have them Yeah. >> send that in either way. Right. >> One of the disadvantages we're operating
under and I'm not casting any aspersions cuz I think um I know Joe's doing a great job in >> Yeah. And he's interim so there's only so much time he's going to be able to put in. Um, but you know, we've been working with a disadvantage of not having a full-time building inspector.
>> Yeah. >> A few towns right now. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's becoming >> Well, everybody towns tend to think they can do without. >> Sure. >> And save some payroll, >> right? >> Except that then they get in trouble
because you got >> Yeah. Right. But I don't I don't want to get down that road. >> All right. All right. So, we'll go to the building department and then uh we'll make some changes. >> Apply extension. >> Apply extension and we'll get you a full set. >> Yeah. >> And you might want to think about that
elevator and ask him specifically about it. >> I'm worried about sprinklers. >> I don't think sprinkler is it cuz that's over. >> No, it's technically assembly, >> right? I was just going to say a use. Yeah, >> it's going to be full.
>> All I have is the existing water line was actually on Bobby D's property. Uh so we have no water to the building and it's only >> teeing off off of there. Is that what's happening? >> The original water line. >> So you're probably going to have to put in a >> You know why?
>> Cuz they subdivided in 1968. >> Um >> but my problem is is I think the main line is on the opposite side of the street. So if I have to go under the street >> Well, the good news is it hasn't been done within a 5year period, so we can
actually do it. >> Okay. >> So, do you have any other questions? Do you want to do a little bit of an extension now where we're at 23 days and our next meeting is hold on 9 10 + 4 is
15 days away. You're probably going to need more time than that, but >> yeah, I mean, we'll be at the 38 day mark at the next meeting. >> We can put you on the agenda. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And and just let us know that you're not coming in as long as the date's been extended or it'll ask for an extended.
>> I do have a question on the feasibility study. >> I'm sorry. >> The feasibility study as far as like traffic, is that done internally by you guys? Sourced by an engineer by us? >> Usually sourced out. we require it sort of stealth but um talk to highway see
how we'd like to handle that. >> All right. >> Yeah. I mean at the end of the day we keep highway happy. So rather than us trying to speculate talk to Steve. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Great. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you.
>> Yeah. You're welcome. You're welcome. >> Sounds fun to you guys. >> Yeah. Excited. >> Have a good night. >> Yeah. You too. All right. Where are we? Uh we're moving on to minutes 62625 and 71725.
Is anyone who was at the meeting had an opportunity to >> So the July 17th one Well, hold on. We had a Oh, no. You know what? I'm I'm I'm sorry. Actually, the August meeting was the one that had the extension for 539
Plymouth. And that's why it's not on these. >> That's why it's on there. >> I I hadn't thought that through yet. Sorry, it's too weird. >> Jamie, you're >> you weren't here for either of these two meetings, so you're excluded. No prejudice here. Uh
have the rest of us had a chance. I >> Which one are we doing first? >> Uh we'll do 626 uh 62625 first. >> I didn't have any uh changes, corrections, or or deletions. Would you like a motion then, Mr. Chair? >> Yes. Yes, I'll entertain a motion to
accept the minutes of >> Allah >> June 26th. >> So motion for June 26, 20125 as presented. >> I have a motion to accept the meeting minutes of 62625. Do I have a second? >> I'll second.
>> I have a motion and a second to accept the meeting minutes of 62625. We're going to do a roll call vote. I'm going to start with myself. Yes, Bruce. Bruce >> Freddy. Call me Fred. Yeah, Fred. Uh, Robert,
>> I vote yes. >> Amy. >> Uh, sure. >> Bruce. >> Yes. >> Okay. Well, the four voting, four yeses passes. All right. Moving on to 71725.
7:17. [Applause] [Music] >> Awesome. Stop timing. >> That's why I couldn't find my me and vice ch. >> I want you guys to know that I've got supper waiting for me. So, if we could
move this along. Just kidding. I said stall. Lol. >> Are we all good with U? Does anybody have any comments about 727? >> Oh, 717 257. Now that I remember that
>> it wasn't that I >> I went through I didn't see any reviewed the uh the meeting itself. I'll make a motion to accept the uh the minute meetings of July 17th, 2025 as presented.
>> I have a motion to accept the meeting minutes of 71725. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Good man. Bruce, >> just give me two seconds. >> I have a motion and a second for the acceptance of the meeting minutes for
71725. >> Could I ask who's uh voting on this, please, Mr. >> Yes. again. Um Jamie um >> is abstaining >> is abstaining because he was not included in that meeting. So it will be the four remaining members.
>> I'm going to start with uh Bruce. >> She wanted a couple minutes just to read. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> No, I I'm okay. I was I was reading where making sure. Yeah, you you remember the Chris thing. Okay. >> Okay. Bruce. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Bruce.
Yes. >> Myself, Tom. Yes. >> Of the four voting, four yeses. It passes. >> Moving on to any other business that's unscheduled following the posting of the agenda. I don't believe so, but if
anybody has anything, >> I had a question on um the Plymouth Street mixed use. Where are we with that site plan? And and do we need to do something about that? >> Which which one are we talking about? >> That's the one that the guy would be
bringing cars down to Florida. >> We We denied it. >> Oh, we did? >> Oh, okay. I was just making sure. It was on the back of my head. I forgot what we did. >> We denied it a while ago. >> Okay. >> Yep. It is denied it. I I understood they were going to try to bring something back or whatever, but uh
>> but they'd have to go to the zone board of appeals. >> How do I not remember that? Was it a long meeting or something? Actually, it was Brendan was here. Brendan, you remember that? Yeah. Brendan said, "How many extensions have been given? He hadn't shown up for so many." And so, either he shows up and gives us
something at the next meeting or or >> I forgot it was a dropped memory issue. Thank you. >> I just wanted to make sure. >> Is there any other business that anybody else wants to bring up? >> Danielle, do we have any other open site plans that um may or may not need to
have attention from the board? like are any of them coming close to like um expiring extended that? >> Not that I know of. No, I don't think so. >> Maybe another suggestion would be like a list at the agenda of everything that we
have possibly had with dates of expiration so that we can know if something's up. >> Yeah. Yeah. We've only got a couple, but we can >> Does that list like you know what I'm saying? Okay. >> Yeah, we can do that. I'll talk to Daniel about doing it. >> All right. Thank you very much. That would be very helpful.
>> All right. Uh the next scheduled meeting is September 4th, 2025. After that, I will entertain a motion to adjourn. >> Go ahead, Jamie. Do you want to ask? >> So moved. >> All right, >> I'll second. >> Oh, moved and seconded to adjurnn. All
those in favor, I'm going to do a voice vote. Bruce, >> Amy, >> yes. >> Bert, >> yes. >> Myself, Tom, yes. Jamie. >> Yes. >> Okay. Unanimous. We are adjourned. Thank you everybody. [Music]