[Music] I'm going to call the meeting to order. The planning board meeting
for September 4th, 2025 being held at the selectman's meeting room at 499 Plymouth Street here in Halifax. I need to announce that the planning
board meeting is being recorded by Area 58 and can be viewed on Community Access Television and YouTube. members present this evening. We have a full board. We have Bruce and I'm throwing a blank.
Sylvester. Sylvester. Yeah, sorry. Bruce, Amy, Troop, myself, Tom Millius, Bert Gainner, and Jamie. Yeah, Welch. Welch. Welch. I didn't remember the Jer anyway. Right.
Uh first order of business is probably to uh approve the agenda for tonight which is pretty light which is usually [Music] a problem. Whenever we have a light agenda it ends up being a long agenda.
Uh can I have a motion to accept the I'll make a motion to accept the agenda as presented. Can I get a second? Second. Moved and seconded to approve the agenda. I can just do a voice vote. All
All in favor? I I. Any opposed? Hearing no opposed. I have a very important thing before we start. Who's got the uh 66 Mustang convertible? Nobody here. You left the lights on. I shut them off. Thank you. That was me.
Oh, was it? I fig you go a dead battery when you get out there. What a guy. Thank you. It's pretty. and I took it for a spin. Paris Buer's day off kind of spin. As for appointments this evening, we
have um a continuation of PSPR25-4590 Mansonet Street plan review. The applicant is present. And what were you going to bring us tonight? the actual print
which you might have. Yeah. So, last time we didn't have him. Last time no one commented. So, we talked to Joe building inspector. So, he's fine with the zoning. He has an issue with um the outdoor seating, which will have to be a special part.
But he told me to talk to Joe and then talk to everyone else. I think he's with us tonight. Mr. Brager, are you on? Yes, I'm here. Okay. I'm sorry. Did you have a question? Me?
No, I thought I thought you were going to ask something. The applicant for 590 Marons Street mentioned that he had shown you the plan and that would be the new plan, right? No, the the site plan. The site plan. But yeah, last time we were at the meeting,
you guys thought no one looked at it and no one reviewed it, but they all reviewed it. Joe approved it as far as like zoning wise goes. Okay. The used Yeah, the used group. So he his only comment was that there might need to be a special permit for
the outdoor seating. Yeah, outdoor seating I don't believe is as of right. Well, seating maybe, but if there's any service outside that would be problematic. So it wouldn't be service outside because it's like a sandwich and coffee
junk. They would go outside themselves, but it could be seating in service outside if it's a catering for like a small way. Yeah, that would be problematic. Okay. Is that specific to the uh to the bylaws? I believe
Yeah, it's a little Joe is is that something you can clarify that, please? Yes. Hi. Um, when I first saw Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Yes. When I first saw the application, um, I
moved it not an approval, but for a site plan review would have been on August 11th. After some time had passed. Um, it was mentioned to me that there was something else going on with it. Matt had talked
to me out in the parking lot. I I've already moved it forward. I didn't see any issue. When I did further research over this past Labor Day weekend, I looked at the site plan review application again and I saw that plans,
different plans were uploaded on August 19th after I had already moved my notification forward. That is when I saw the outdoor seating. I believe it was Matt's father who contacted me and I spoke with him Friday and I said this this will create a problem because I did
not see these plans when I originally moved the application forward. So um my concerns are and I did tell match father I believe that's what it was that um the outdoor seating would be a problem especially if there was food service of
any type which is not allowed by zoning. Okay. So you mean not allowed by zoning, not even with special permit. Is that correct? Well, the use um the uses under zoning is absolutely clear. Restaurants or other places serving food and beverages
only to persons inside a building. Okay. Thank you very much for the clarification. You're welcome. So Joe, if I understand that too, would that include like say a a mobile bar that was uh out there that could be brought in and outside that you know for
ser for alcohol, alcohol drinks and whatnot. It's still considered service if if that type of uh function was going. That's right. There's food out there that's being served out on the deck itself and alcohol. That would be considered part of what the zoning is
discussing. in my in my interpretation. What zoning number is it? You're in the you're in the news table. Okay. Thank you. Um have we in addition to that I I know
I had brought up the issue about parking. What type of occupancy are we dealing with versus the parking and how does that fit in? I I know we discussed briefly about potentially having some off-site parking and that Yeah. So, we've been talking to the
church about possibly doing a police deal on spots. Uh we haven't done the math yet because the site plan is not like finalized and approved for how many spots we will actually need. Well, I mean it's in the table.
We have a formula for parking. So, you're going to have to address that and lay them out. And in addition to that, have to present handicap spots. Okay. Well, yeah.
Depending on the Yeah. Well, it's predicated on the percentage of parking spots. Okay. So, the the deck Looking at this, it will be facing the wall, right? Yeah. The deck's facing the water. Yeah.
So, at the moment, I think we have like 27 or 28. What What is this right here? This wall looking thing. So, that's that's just a temporary material pile during construction. Okay. That's gone. It just gets flatter. Oh, okay.
And so, this is the deck. What is it? This is the deck 56 20 by 50. It's 1,000 ft. This is the deck. No, this is the deck. This is the existing building. This is the deck. Only on the second floor.
Yeah. So, the way it works, the first floor in the front is the second floor in the back because the basement is a walk out basement. Yeah. It's it's a Yeah. Okay. It's a sloped walk. So, Joe, I think you can get us apply for a special permit for service outside
though, correct? Um, no. Because it's it's wouldn't be a special permit because the fact that it's not allowed. It's not allowed because it's not allowed by special only by special permit. It's not allowed. Period. Not allowed.
Okay. because of the how does um just curious how does the 550 tavern have outdoor um service and formally the monet in um had outdoor uh
tables as well right to Amy's to Amy's point Joe uh what was the law the the co law that uh regarded uh that allowed outdoor or service. Well, the CO law statute did allow
outdoor seating during the time of CO and after that time had passed. The state had re reneged on that and it was up to the municipalities. The municipalities could choose to write their own bylaws if they wanted to continue to allow proceeding.
The uh the ponet in which is now the 550 and all that they may be dealing with pre-existing non-conforming use. Yeah. It's grandfathered. Yeah, that's what I that's what I was asking. Yeah, I think it's grandfather cuz this but I thought I saw something in the bylaw about special permit.
Well, the planning board is a special permit granting authority, but if it's not allowed it it should if it was allowed it should say allowed by special permit or in the schedule of uses it would say SP. Yeah. And so let I can show it to you so that you can understand. But in the use
table it says restaurants or other places just like Joe said but maybe you know restaurants or other places serving food or beverages only to persons inside a building. No in um AR which is uh residential, yes in business, yes in
industrial, no in industrial too and no in uh conservancy. So there's no SP for a special permit for that use and where it says only to persons inside it's very specific.
Now Amy to answer your question earlier that you had posed about how did these other places get it to get the answer to me that was before me and number two that was pre-existing noting and so how those got to stay I don't know okay
the answer in this situation I do not believe that Halifax allows use variances so I don't know how that could move forward where it's a no in the zoning okay I mean basically you cannot allow you cannot issue a use per use varies. Excuse me.
Yeah, that's not an allowed thing to do. Yeah, I would have to say SP. Yeah, special comment. I I So, see here, just so that you No, I get what you said. Okay. All right. I'm just making sure.
Um I think there's a there's enough questions here that maybe you need to go back work this up with Joe and and figure out what you're going to end up with because we got to see the plan with parking lines. Yeah, we need specific spaces and counts
regardless of okay down the road we may get something, you know, lease spaces. No, no, no, no. I knew I was going to get anything that cuz even if you were going to have a small venue, it's it it depends on whether it's concentrated tables and chairs, standing room, I mean, you're going to have to come up with different
numbers and each one of those things require a different set of parking regulations. So, I only see engineer is going to have to do some math. Am am I right that I only see 12 on the plan? No. So, there's some in the back to and the side.
I mean, you may have enough. I'm not saying, but the outdoor thing kind of throws like a hole. Well, that's what's missing. Yeah. 15 16. So, there's like no way around that, Joe, is what you're saying.
Um 23 24 26. Okay. actually 26. Thank you. 26 and then catch 28. No. Would the number of parking spaces uh be calculated including deck deck
square footage or is it just the building? Wherever you can seat somebody will cause more traffic to come in. No, I mean parking spaces. The more seating you have, the more parking. It's calculated on occupancy. Yeah. Yeah. So we have a occupancy that we want to
go for and then we would have to calculate spots off that, right? And then you have to have a certain amount of handicap per amount, right? But the outdoor thing kind of throws a loop on it. So we'll see. Okay.
Should I read the other comments from other boards out loud? Sure. Okay. We have um Steve Haywood of Highway um August 21st 3:59 p.m. My concern is how much water runoff will make it onto Modit Street and the plan shows excess
snow placement next to the sidewalk which could cause an issue. Uh Caitlyn Putt from um conservation said on August 12th that the order of conditions has not been picked up for
recording. No work can commence until the orders are recorded at the Plymouth County Registry of Deeds. Please stop by the office to pick up the orders for reporting. Additionally, a pre-construction meeting with conservation agent is required prior to the commencement of the work.
Um, but board of health on August 26th said that the agent requires an engineered plan for the septic system because based off of the information you provided on the seating plan, the gallons per day exceeds your current septic gallon per day capacity. Mhm.
Okay. You can um arrange to get copies of that. I keep copies. No, I have Yeah, the order conditions is reported though. Okay. Oh, good. Okay. Fine. That's Do you happen to have the date or book
page? No, it's okay. Just asking. It should be on there though. I think it was last Thursday. I went Okay. Well, it'll be recorded that day most likely. Or Friday because it was a long weekend. He said it would be on by Tuesday. Yeah.
Okay. Well, how are we settled on time for this? And I think we need an extension, right? Yeah. I think we're I think you're good until the 11th now. We did a 60-day extension and we we approved the 60 days. We just need to sign.
Yep. So, that should be enough for Y. Yeah. The only thing with the snow pile is we said on the O and M that we would remove snow if the height exceeds a certain height. Like there's a comment there that says do not exceed
traffic height. So, that's my only highway comment. So the 60-day extension starts from September 11th, 2025. So then the expiration date will be November 10th, 25.
I'm writing that. I only have a marker. I don't need to vote to say we already Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Tom, I have a question. Sure. Um, as far as the additional parking spaces across the the street, is it just they
just need a just a lease agreement, correct? In the amount of spaces, is that all that's how does that work? We we'll have to discuss that whether that's adequate or not. Oh, okay. That's what I was talking about. Yeah. And and we also brought up um if you remember uh
deed potential for a crosswalk. Oh yeah. That time which is going to be something else again. I mean that's not the best spot to put a crosswalk in my humble opinion. It's kind of a straightaway there. When they get closer to an intersection you
kind of expect to slow down. You don't I feel that to be abnormal. Has there ever has there ever been a um anything written about valet instead of a crosswalk? Like if there was additional parking across the street, it's all valet. I
I think we would probably want you to go to the traffic study committee. Okay. And uh and see what their thoughts are. They're the ones who would really make a recommendation. Okay. I still advise you to get an easement from our No, definitely.
I got to figure out this outdoor thing first. Yeah, you want me to put these guess with this so she opens it and finds everything. Do you have any questions?
Me? No. Basically, I I there isn't much we can do for you right now, I don't believe, unless anybody else has a different thought. Kind of go back talk to Ch. Yeah, sure.
So, what was what was the deck after the original plan was submitted? So, we originally were just going to do a coffee shop, right? Right. And then we were just going to figure out the rest of the building, whatever. And then uh someone joined working with
us and they had the idea of like doing like an event space, popup shop, small weddings. How much square footage do you have? I think it's like 4,000 or 5,000. It's pretty big. Yeah. Yeah. I The deck itself, what the deck itself is the plan was August
11th and a new plan was submitted the 18th which was No, so it wasn't a new plan. So the August 11th was the site plan. I think August 18th because the health board asked for a seating plan. So the site plans always have the deck on
always. I think when the seating plan got submitted, that's when Joe probably saw seating on the deck. I don't think he I don't know if he didn't think there was seating on the deck. Maybe he just thought people were going to go out there. The plan that got submitted on
the 18th is just a seating plan and occupancy number that we wanted to go for. Not a new site plan. The site plan's been the same since whatever that date is. [Applause] That's existing. I mean, the seating and service seems to
be a problem. There's an observation deck or something. But even then, people So, you just can't. So, basically, you can still have outdoor seating. He could just not serve outside. What if someone
gets like to go? Oh, he's Oh, he's still What if someone gets to go and they walk outside by themselves? That would have to be monitored. Yeah, you the bylaw very clear as far as all servers have to be inside. Yeah, I don't know.
Go back go back on your point what Matt had what Matt had said about the plans. The plans were different more than it was more than a change in the ceiling on from the plans that were uploaded that I that was uploaded on 19. So the original plan show didn't really
it showed a rendering of a deck showed the deck and and then that portion of the decks that open to below. There'd have to be stairs off off that deck, right? You got stairs on coming off that deck. Yeah, ABC may have some issues with that, too,
because if you're carrying liquor outside, you could potentially be leaving the site. I'm I'm not trying to throw in here, but I think that's a consideration, too. So, I think there's a lot of angles that need to be looked at here.
I I I I hate hearing myself say this, but I think you need to go back and kind of figure this out again. Yeah. Anybody else have any thoughts, comments? Yeah. What would be the uh disability act compliance if there was a
deck technically in the back on the second floor? Well, technically I make the deck even with the new parking on the sides. Yeah, the elevation works where you can make the park Yeah. to basically make the deck even with the side bar.
So, you could just come right off the deck. You wouldn't have to go off. The only reason it's a second floor deck is because the basement's a full walk out, right? Because the drop that's not going to be part of the function. What? The basement? Yeah.
No, the basement's just storage. I'm just clarifying that. That's Yeah. So, did I make a suggestion? that can really help this project along. Why do you need an open air deck? Why can't you make it a closed observatory
that is part of the inside? Put a roof over it. Yeah, we could look. Yeah, there's a problem with conservation there, too. Yeah, we'd have to go back to conco with a roof because it's within 100 ft. Well, and it's within 100 ft of the water.
Yeah. the deck falls within 100 ft of the water and that's a secondary water supply too. So that makes it a little more difficult to um Yeah, you need to go back and Yeah. work it out.
And I really think that you should do something like we need to see the parking. No, the parking's big. I know. Yeah, cuz I'm assuming they're not going to let you park up back anymore in terms of whatever parking you have is what you got on the back, right? Towards the
pond. Uh, it's as many spots as we added seven parallel parking and those are on what was recorded for conservation. This entire plan recorded. Yeah, just making sure. The parking is going to be based off of
the use that he tells us what it is, but we don't know yet. Right. Right. Well, yeah. Yeah. We don't know what the occupancy is going to be. Well, we said between 125 and 150 occupants. So that that would be really um again
and I know I'm harping on it, but imagine all of a sudden the church sells and now your least space can't be there. That's why I'm saying in Yeah, but if you if you sign a lease agreement and you say in the lease agreement you want the first refusal if they sell it. Okay.
Instead of being on the deed, this this positioning that way instead of saying you want to be on the deed is probably easier because you can write that in the lease. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. First refusal would probably be the way to go. Nothing I'm going to buy. Yeah, but the deed the deed would be a
hard thinking of that. Yeah, the deed would be a hard sell to them. Yeah. Yeah, we've talked to them multiple times. Um they're fine with it. We just have to finalize it. Okay.
So then the outdoor is the only thing though. Well, you need to talk to I recommend you talk to highway um and the traffic study committee. Mhm. And then the subject too. Yeah, we have to Yes. Well, that Yeah,
that we don't have a whole lot. No, I just Yeah. Okay. Okay. Uh would you like something motion to continue this till uh next meeting or meeting after? I think the meeting after the next
meeting I think is closed. I think it's the 18th. Yeah, it's the next meeting is what? I think it's Yeah. So follow first meeting in October. [Music]
Um the second 15th of November, I mean October. Yes. Uh, today's the 4th. Yep. We'll do November 2nd. I mean, October second.
I'm ready to jump. Do you want to do the motion or you go ahead? Um, I'll make a motion that PSPR25-45901 Mark Quon Street site plan review be continued to October 2nd, 2025 at 7 p.m.
Do I have a second? I'll second. We have a motion to uh continue the hearing of PSPR25-4590 Maron Street to October 2nd, 2025.
I'll do a roll call vote just to make it nice and easy. Bruce, yes. Amy, yes. Myself, Tom, yes. Bert, yes. Jamie, yes. Unanimous. See you in a second. You guys want to keep that one?
Did you mind if I keep this? All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thanks. All right. We have um one bill to pay to WB Mason. Do we have that in effect?
Yeah. Okay. For $5129, can I get a motion? Yep. I'll make a motion to play WB Mason invoice number 25601936 and 256258956 and the total amount of $5129.
Do I have a second? Second moved and seconded to pay the invoice from WB Mason. I'm not going to read all the numbers because we already did. All those in favor? I I.
Anyone opposed? Hearing no opposed. Unanimous. Next on the agenda are meeting minutes. Has everyone had a chance to read the minutes of August 7th and August 21st? Uh I have a question. I I noticed on the
uh I haven't Which one was it? Must have been the August 7th one. You know, we met with the selectman. Uh I just made a note noticed it wasn't a roll call vote and I think it's required by uh by uh
state statute. So, it I thought it should say roll call somewhere. I think I remember reminding you and then we did it. We did. We did do a roll call. Yeah. And because Tom said the same thing because uh Bruce was was on the on the Zoom. Yeah, we did.
I I just thought I should say that in the minute somewhere just so in case anybody No, no. I think I think that's that's that's correct. That's that's right. So, we can either Mr. Mr. I didn't change it or we can have her do another copy.
I didn't get the minutes emailed like we did last time. All right. So, why don't we why don't we hold those off? Yeah. Till our next meeting. Jamie wasn't on for those minutes. That's why you didn't get them. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I didn't get the 21st either. I was there for the 21st.
Why don't we put the minute Oh, we haven't done the 21st. The meeting minutes off until the next meeting. Everybody okay with that? Yep. I'm going to make a motion to take the minutes of um Thursday, August 7th and Thursday, August 21st, 2025 to the next meeting on
September 18th. Is that to include the roll call vote? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we're not going to vote on them tonight. Should have a chance to vote. You'll do that, right, Danielle? Add roll call vote.
Yeah. Where do you want to add that? Add any of our votes? Yeah. any any of them at the beginning of it even at the at the beginning of the meeting just that all all votes would be done by roll call just so it's maybe mentioned in there Danielle somewhere because somebody was on a zoom and not
present that's Jamie Sanders uh for the bill actually on both meetings now that I'm thinking about it because um you were on Zoom last time too right what's the deal I was on Zoom for everything
yeah the 28th and Uh and the fourth uh the sun is and the 21st the 21st. Yes. Both of them. Correct. Actually, you did do it on the 21st.
Um I take that back. Order date. It was 8:14. You were here, right? I didn't vote on the 21st. You wrote you wrote down the roll call on the 21st. So you can just repeat like that on the
uh Thank you. So someone's they've been looking for you too just All right. Well, where do we leave off here? I lost track. I think that now that we've done minutes, we have completed the tasks.
Unless you want me to go through any of the mail, which I just went through and it doesn't seem that anything is directly abuing our town. It seems like it's Poke Center, Haywood Street, Bridgewater. Yeah, the profunator notices. Yeah,
everything's pretty far away. I scanned everything. Um, it's not within like the exact body within throwing distance. Thank you. That's a good way to put it. And we took care of the other thing, right?
Yes. Yeah. We signed the the extension and we did the bill and we did the appointment unless somebody asked something. I wanted to make one um comment. Um I've
mentioned several times over the last couple of years um that one of the things the planning board hasn't been doing much of is planning. Um, I I'd like to maybe put a couple things on the next agenda. I think one of them is I I want to check and see if it's okay and
appropriate that we reach out to some people in particular the ownership of the former CLAN building up there on 58 and 106 to see if we can get any feedback from those folks as to what their plans are, what experiences
they've had trying to market it. Um, I'm not saying we can help them exactly, but I know there's a zoning issue up there that we might be able to at least look into because if you're looking at that building, the right hand side of
that where it looks uh dirt, not paved, uh, that goes from business to residential, uh, which is problematic for any business trying to locate it there. Now, I'm not taking into account all the abutters and everything because everybody's going to have a say as to
whether we do, you know, propose. We can't do anything. All we can do is suggest um I'd like to mention I'm sorry to No, I was going to say you can go 50 ft into the more restrictive zone, but but that's not a whole lot. Sounds like a lot, but when you try to schedule parking
along the same lines of the property, I don't know if it's appropriate or not, but when was the last uh mold study and perhaps the uh asbestous study done cuz if it's uh that much of a problem, it it could be legal state steps could be
taken to to pull it down. Yeah, I know that. Um I I when I was the building inspector, I had them do a mold mitigation, but that was about 15 years ago. And after myself, I know Rob had him do um an asbestous and mold abatement. Um
but even that has to be right. And just because we don't like the way it looks, you just can't go down. Correct. But nevertheless, if there are legal steps to be to be had, I think we should at least we could we could ask the town administrator to I don't want to say too much about the property without them
being here, so I'm trying to be careful. Um, we could talk to the town administrator to see what kind of legal grounds we may or may not have or have to do in terms of notifications, at least what exists that would have to comply with, right? I like like I was just alluding
to, I don't want to talk too much about a property or any owner without them having noticed that we're going to do it. So, but to your point about we need to do more planning like what else would we what else would you think that we should do or need to do or can do? I I think we should take a look at I'm
not suggesting any changes, but I think we should look at the zoning map in this zoning map was established 40 years ago. Maybe we need to take another look at and see if some of these things make sense. Maybe we need to get more restrictive in some areas or make some sense out of things or maybe nothing.
I'm not suggesting. I'm just saying we should take a look at it as a group and we do that at the normal meetings. We could do that at the normal meeting. Yeah. Or we could have a special meeting, but we'd have to publicize it. Uh or I don't know if the zoning bylaw review committee has been revitalized or
not. I I never asked. Um cuz they were looking into some things. I don't know if they touched on any of these things. I'm not a big fan of huge committees doing things because nothing gets done in my personal opinion. Um the smaller the better. Um
you may not like what they come up with, but at least something gets done. Um but anyway, those are the kinds of things. And if anyone has any thoughts in the meantime of anything else, you know, we can, like I said, I just want to put an agenda item on the uh on the agenda to to at least start a discussion
about something else. But I I wanted to give some notice um rather than just trying to do it all tonight. I just want to just float the concept. Yeah. I mean, part of the reason that we're called the planning board is due to the fact, in my opinion, that we're supposed to make sure that everything's
going to line up to not cost the residents too much money in the future so that when something's coming in and has a site plan, we're planning for how much traffic it's going to bring. We're planning for how much water it needs. We're planning for all of the t infrastructure that's going to be
affected that would cost our taxpayers money if we didn't make developers do things. Like for instance, there have been decisions that are recorded at the registry of deeds that require in order if you are going to maybe get a variance from some of our bylaws, then you need
to widen the road and add a light and do certain things like that. So that's part of the reason that we are calling the planning board. Those are the things that we need to incorporate. That's those are the things we need to talk about. Uh we don't have a town planner, so we're at a disadvantage. I was just going to say, so to Amy's
point, like to plan stuff, but isn't it planned off of like a master plan for the town that we're supposed to kind of keep in mind the whole the master plan? Isn't that what you're supposed to Yeah, you just brought up an interest. master plan. We had to adopt a master
plan that was 20 years old be because we needed some leverage to get some state grants. Uh we need to maybe reach out to OCPC who they're our contact people planning council and maybe get some involvement from them because they have
resources that they can contribute. I haven't always had the best of luck working with OCPC, but they're a resource and they don't necessarily cost us anything. So like a traffic study. Yeah. Traffic study, but they do cost because we're paying
right now for Well, I didn't mean it like that. OCPC sat on it for a little while and it's a little bit of a joke cuz they're taking everything that right now I've already so you know I did. So the um state is sending down all the new bylaws
like forced MBTA, forced overlay, forced this and that is directly that's what they talk about at the meetings and then you talk to other towns like when you're listening to their presentations and they're like talking about how they have too much traffic and then they're talking about
how they're going to build a subdivision of I forget how many numbers up in a north area and they're going to do another one down here. And I'm like, "Well, how's that going to affect your traffic?" And they're like, "Oh, it's not going to do anything." And I'm like, "How?" We've had so many I I'm sorry. I'm No.
So, the problem is is like I really believe that local zoning is and planning and zoning is how we protect our properties from losing their value from being overrun. I mean, right now, our state is trying to push us into complete development, which
well, is not a good thing. That's all part of it. and and we've we've had so many studies done over the years and they always comes up with the same answers. I'll never forget we had UMass do a study and uh it was expansive. I mean they got
into all kinds of stuff and I remember telling them I said at the end of this you know what you're going to tell us and they said what I said you're going to tell us we either have to move the town closer to Route Three or Route three closer to the town and and that's exactly what they came back with more or less
but we can protect ourselves a little bit. that we can take a look at some areas that maybe, you know, maybe we can do something with or maybe not or maybe areas that we want to think about protecting better, but we need to be proactive rather than reactive or at least try to be proactive. I mean, I'm
not saying we're going to solve all the problems, but at least we're thinking about them, looking into them, and, you know, kicking some ideas around that. That's all I I didn't want to talking about the future of our town. Well, I think we need to do something again in lie of the fact we don't have a
planner. At least we can Good. It doesn't cost us money to listen to somebody trying to change our bylaws and try to basically be a real estate agent inside the government because that's what they're doing now. They're trying to figure out how to develop land like for in trust me I talk to town
planners in my job all the time. So anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there and you know we can talk about a little bit more. We'll put it on the agenda. So, if anybody wants to chime in, they can chime in. And I don't want to make it seem like we're trying to do something without telling anybody. Okay.
All right. All righty. Uh, unless there's something else, I'll make a motion to adjourn. I'll second. Wow. I like it. All those in favor? I It sounds unanimous to me. Oh, I didn't even answer. Yes. I I knew you were going to say yes.
See, as you made a motion, [Music]