Well, despite the clock on the wall, it's 7:00 according to team Oval time. Anyway, so we're going to call to order the meeting of the town of Halifax Planning Board for Thursday, March 19th, 2026.
We are here at Town Hall at 499 Plymouth Street in the Select Men's meeting room. I need to announce that we are being filmed by Area 58 and will be available to view if you haven't had enough tonight. one more time on YouTube andor
Community Access Television. Tonight, attending our meeting, we have a full board. We have Bruce Sylvester, Jimmy Walsh, Amy Troop, Bert Gainer, and myself, Tom Millius, and
I don't see anything else we need to do first. So, I guess we have an appointment um under at least under the appointments for 318 Plymouth Street, but I believe it's the building inspector who wanted
to bring us up to date. >> Correct. So when we were here at the last meeting, I I think the board was misled a little bit to think that the changes have happened to that site because none
of the changes have happened to that site other than the fire hydrants which was mandated. Septics's not installed. The grades are not set. Um, I have met
both the engineer for the town, the engineer out there. It's like we said, it's a it's a win-win. By taking the grade and dropping it 1 ft, 2 foot, 3 foot, you're bringing in 3,000 plus yards of fill.
You're utilizing the materials on site instead of having trucking and and things going on on that road. your buildings will be 1T, 2T, 3 foot higher in the in the neighbor's view. >> Lower you mean >> right now they'll be lower. >> Yeah.
>> Right. So I just um you know I guess people were upset that they had done these and I just wanted to confirm none none of this done. septic is not installed either place. And obviously the septic makes more sense to put next
to the building that it's serving than now at the other end of the site where it was originally parked. Um so they reworked it. It has border health approval to go there. I think it's why would you not make it there? It
makes more sense. Um, also the board was leaning towards him for the retention bonds. I just want you to understand leaders is on the hook for the retention
bonds. He Yes, he owns the property. He owns the property retention bond is on. Leaders is responsible to have that 100% done and signed off before he will accept it back. All right. He has no
obligation for that retention pond. He paid his money to them for the entrance way just like everyone else. And they're so you know and we we call it Starbucks. It's not Starbucks. It's leaders.
>> That is the developer. All right. Starbucks is a tenant. Autoone is a tenant. 318 owns that. But that's it. So, I I just want to kind of make you aware that he didn't go do things that we should be thinking of ever finding
the guy for. He he came to us and asked and I said, "Yeah, I think it's a minor modification needs to go in front of the board." And I just don't think that was expressed well at the last meeting that you all thought everything was done and
and nothing is done. Ju just >> Yeah. Speaking for myself and everybody who wants to speak and get an opportunity, my concern was the fact and and I agree with you. I think the site is much better for it. Not a question in
my mind. What I was getting at was they had already poured the height of those foundations, intending to leave them at those heights. They should have come back and told us they were going to do that. I wasn't looking to necessarily find them. I was just kind of admonishing them that a little bit
because they didn't come in to tell us they were going to do that. That was the only part that they had done that I found any issue with myself personally. >> And that's all I was trying to express to them was before you in fact poured those foundations lower. That is in fact
the change of the site plan. >> And I get that. that they also left the rebar hanging out of those foundations, all three feet, so that they knew that if they needed to bring them up, they could. >> But in the fall, and it was wet, and they wanted to get those in before
winter. I I know they were rushing. >> Um I think, you know, originally it was designed by a different engineer and now this engineer is looking at saying, "This is, you know, why would we bring this up? You're only going to make the
water move slower across the pavement by keeping it down. By raising it up, you're going to make more slopes. You're going to Right. >> Y >> every structure in there, just so you understand, is it's not complete. There's three left to do at the end, but every structure in there is set at the
exact invert and outlet that's on the plan. The only thing that's not done is the rises from the top of the structures up to the grains, and that's what's adjustable. So they again they've made no changes to the site is what I just
you know >> nothing's actually >> I don't want to think that they went and did all this and now they're asking for for you know >> forgiveness >> forgiveness because they didn't uh the only thing that they took a chance on and he knows it is you know but he
doesn't have a floors pour so he'll just do a monolith before if he has to he'll just pour that wall floor at once and cap it if if they make them go up. But I, you know, my opinion, why would we
raise that those building elevations for all of the neighbors to see that? The whole idea is to keep it in the hole back there. My thought, >> again, personally, I don't have a problem with any of that, but I did have an issue, and I I'll say it. I thought they should have come in and told us they were going to do that.
>> I I agree. >> And that that's where I was coming from. I don't know about anybody else, but >> yeah. So, that's all I wanted to express on that. Um, and then we'll get to 314 after. >> Okay, that's the operative one here. Yeah.
>> So, that's my opinion. I I just want you to realize I think all of this intersection issue, this light issue, this pavement issue has zero to do with 318. Right. >> 318 is past the roadway. He owns from
their end. He's already paid his money for the front to be done and he's just waiting for it to be done. So, >> um and then as says the retention bonds are done and signed up, he'll take his back. Starbucks keeps there. >> Yeah. And they're not going to operate
until all that happens. >> There seems to be no rush. Were there any communications or conversations with Mr. Brennan, you know, as far as >> Yeah, I I Yeah, he spoke and stuff. >> And what did he what did he >> He said right from the get- go when he looked at the plans originally that he
knew that the that the other engineer had mentioned the site could be dropped and he thought it was a good idea and he was just out there this week um on a site visit um with the owners. He he he thinks it's the way to go as
well. >> So we we can get a report from him. >> Of course, we can get anything you want from him. >> Yeah. >> Uh as far as the I I I brought you >> they have to do swift reports there every two weeks. I don't know if anyone knows what they are, but you know for
the storm water. So when they have a rainfall of extents, they have to send a a civil engineer out there and look at all the drainage waddles, all of the protection from the wetlands. They do that. So we we get these reports every two weeks that include, you know,
pictures of the runoff, the waddles. So these are logged as well. Um so I I don't think that they need to have an engineer go over there to look at anything. Let him just make his regular inspections as needed. You know, they
call them for structures. >> Wow. >> That's my thought. >> Have they set in a site plan modification application with all of the plans to us so that we can look at them as a planning board and have it properly gone through PR engineering?
>> I think this is what they gave us last time. Okay. >> So, we need a application for >> I'm not sure that they didn't do that. Danielle, uh, are you on? >> Yep. >> Did Did they actually uh send in an application for a modification
318? >> So, we don't we don't currently have an option on open gov for a modification. So, they put in a whole new site plan application again. >> Okay. So, we have the um required plans
been stamped into the town clerk and they're in the file so that we can have them at the meeting >> when we can properly have a modification meeting on it. >> I think that's what we were doing, right? >> Um I don't I mean we don't have the form
of plans to compare. We don't have the full file. We don't have an engineer that has given us a report. We have not followed our bylaws. We're hearing from the building
commissioner and I have a question for him. A few weeks ago at a meeting previous I asked you for an opinion on something and you stated that you were only for buildings >> and here you are giving us all this information on site.
>> Correct. Who else is going to give you this information? Who else is going to be the middle person? >> A few weeks, a few meetings. >> Who else is going to be the middle person between the board? >> I asked you a question. So, is it that you're for buildings? Like you stated in
a meeting a few weeks ago or is it that now all of a sudden >> that's happening? No, because I'm confused. >> We're going to get off of this. >> No, >> we're going to ask our engineer. We're going to get a report from the engineer. If you want a formal hearing, we'll look
into having a formal hearing. >> Absolutely. We need a formal hearing. >> And and if that's the case, we'll look over the paperwork and then we'll take it from there. We weren't looking to make a I don't think I wasn't looking to make a decision tonight anyway because we didn't have a report from the
engineer. So, we'll look into this. You know, admonishing the building inspector for trying to do the job here isn't where I think we should be going. It needs to be done correctly where all of the information is put in front of us and we have all the correct steps. >> Yes, I I get it. >> Listen, I'm just here to tell you what I
felt as though went wrong in the last meeting and how it was brought down that road. Whether you make a decision on this tonight or 3 months from now >> doesn't matter you >> doesn't matter to me at all. Okay. >> I'm just trying to give you some
information from some people that are not here. appreciate that. Um, what we should do is ask them to come back if you we'll have I I don't guess we they put in an application, we have to advertise it. Um, so we'll do a formal
hearing on the modification and then we'll follow the steps for the modification. >> We typically don't advertise site plan reviews or modifications, just so you know. I was going to say, what's the date of the application, Danielle? I'd have to look. I just came in
recently. Hold on one second. Thank you. >> Well, as long as we meet the timetable, we can set it up for the next meeting. >> And I think a request from uh uh Mr. burning too. If he's gone through the numbers and he's been out there every
two weeks with the with that with a report then uh a review of that report and and his findings I think would be >> yeah and his recommendation >> recommendation right >> since this is a good idea or bad idea whatever I'm fine with that
>> so then we should send the full um application and plans over to Brennan for a full peer you. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, that's the process. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I >> February 19th. >> I'm sorry.
>> February 19th was when it was sent in. >> That's getting close. So, we have what? 8 plus. We're at >> So, the next meeting is when April >> we're going to We need an extension. >> What do we have? 45 days. >> Yep.
So that was 11 plus. Uh today's the 19th. We're at 30 days. We have 15 days. So that we're really tight. When's our next meeting? >> February 2nd. I mean April 2nd. Sorry. >> Really tight.
>> Well, is it tight or is it doable? >> It is as long as we don't have a no quorum or any of that that could possibly happen. Well, we can ask them for an extension, but at the same time, we can set the meeting for April 2nd.
>> I'll make a motion if you'd like. >> Yes, please. Make a motion >> uh to uh put them on the agenda for excuse me second and you can open up a discussion. >> Well, >> that's >> Yeah. 340 Plymouth Street. Tom Her. So,
um, Silva Engineering, they designed this originally, this whole thing, and they also designed the drainage from, uh, >> from Starbucks, >> everybody. Yeah. >> All the way down through the country club. So, they did all of this in
coordination with how the drainage would flow. So, I'm concerned about two things. So the first thing is the drainage with the um elevation drop of uh the storage facility. How will that impact
um 340 Plymouth Street? Will it will it impact them at all? If it if it isn't fine. >> Well, that's why we want >> But that's we want the engineer to talk about that. >> Exactly. >> Talking with Larry, uh he hasn't spoken
with the town's engineer. So that's not true. what you had just said. >> Not his engineer, but their engineer is what you were >> to your engineer. >> No. >> So Larry hasn't spoken to >> he didn't know any about the >> dropping of this.
>> I correct me if I'm wrong. I think he was referring to the owners of 318's engineer talking. >> He hasn't spoken with them >> cuz I I have had a conversation with uh Larry about >> not Larry. Larry's no longer their
engineer. >> Right. Right. >> But you you refer to the previous >> So why would he say the guy almost have the town engineer certify that that this will have no drainage impact to 340 >> that or my suspicion is it's going to
improve it. But um but that's why we want to have him in there. And the other thing too is um I think that there should be some sort of a visual as to what the storage facility is going to look like now because uh they were mentioning that they're going to change
the the roof pitches. They're going to change the the look of that storage facility and you know the the planning board required R&J to present a visual
and they should as well to see if it goes along with what the town wants. >> Yeah, they need to bring to submit an updated correct. >> Right. And then the third thing I I had here is um it was brought up at the last meeting that they produce a snow removal
plan that the planning board should approve. Uh because with with the relationship that uh Mr. White has um I think that that if there
wasn't a plan in place uh I'm sure there would be problems. Well, he doesn't have much room out there, so he needs a plan. >> He has his 340 club. >> I think we actually there was a discussion about that. >> Yeah, >> that he would ship it out. But I would
like that in writing certified by the board so that if there is any uh disagreement as to where that snow should be that either I can take legal action or the town can. >> Well, we've got other issues with snow,
too. So, I think we're going to touch on some other issues >> with that with the snow removal as well. >> Not just that. >> Yes. >> All right. Next door as well. >> Yeah. Chris, 129 Circuit Street. Um, I agree. Not
arguing the end result might be a better plan, but just as a resident, I just want to make sure it goes through the correct process and I get it all documented like it should. >> That's what we're doing. No, I just making sure that it goes through the full changes because if I remember even last year there was discussion about a
cease and desist there when it was known they were already making changes that weren't documented. I think that was the end of last summer, you know, if I remember correctly cuz that >> that has that had to do with coming over the line and some other misunderstandings.
>> Grading changes too back then. So it didn't get documented back last year. So, as long as the end result is always documented properly. >> You want to finish your motion? >> Can I for one second? >> Sure.
>> Um, so I do have an email and it's my fault. Um, I must have missed or forgot to put this on here. Um, I have an email from Cat Brennan. It looks like it came to Peggy and I um about the new plans. I don't know if you want me to read it to
you or Well, we might as well wait for the full hearing now. And so we have just on the record, I'd say. >> Yeah. Is it a long email? >> It's not, but it's basically Pat. It's Pat saying that he looked at the the new plans and that he's okay with all the
minor changes. So, I can read it to you or >> Yeah. Yeah, we can read it into the record. Sure. >> Right. One sec. I thought it was a letter from Danielle. Gary James also sent me the revised plans last week. I have reviewed
them and I have no issues with the minor design changes which are mainly changes to the finished grades and the location of the proposed septic system. Gary has also been in contact with me throughout construction and I have been on site several times to inspect the drainage installation. Everything looks good to
date. I note that I have not reviewed the subject design as that is the board of health's curfew. That was from last meeting. >> Okay. Right. That's what I thought was engineering. >> No, no, no. We're not taking that as the end result, >> but that was from the last meeting.
>> Yeah. What's the date on that, Danielle? >> Did you ask for the date on it? >> Yeah. >> Um, let's see. I think it looks like February 26th. >> Okay. Thank Thank you, Danielle.
Um, all right. Let's let's finish our motion here. You started it. Do you remember it? >> I was in the middle of it uh when I interrupted you. >> Yes. Yeah. To be exact. Uh well, I'll
make a motion that we uh we put uh this on our agenda for the uh April 2nd, did you say Jamie? meeting and uh with the uh requested information in uh another review by the uh by Mr. Brennan.
>> We should probably maybe see if we can get Mr. Brennan to attend as well. I think it or at least on Zoom cuz if there's any questions, he can answer them as opposed to waiting another two. >> If possible, he could uh zoom the
meeting for for questions. Go ahead. Um, I would amend that to add that they have um what is required by 16728 as a full plan application with snow removal with
the visuals and the entire thing so that we're not messing around. And I want the files, the paper files at the meeting. History of everything in I want the
files at the meeting. >> Do you want to make the motion? >> That was the amended part. >> Uh I don't understand if this is a uh amended. >> We didn't have an amendment yet. We amended after the motion. I said that I
would add that to Bart's motion. I would be okay. >> If but that's my question. If this is a modification, what do we need all the originals for other than just the changes in the
inspection and and the uh review of uh Mr. Brennan >> because there's changes in the building. There's changes in fire hydrant. I suspect what you're getting at is to be able to compare what was and what is now. >> Yeah, we should. >> Yeah, I absolutely should.
>> I don't have a problem with that. >> It should be a full application with all of the changes just like it is required by 16728, which is our guiding bylaws. This is that's not up for discussion. That's that's literally >> discussing it.
>> That's literally what we need to have. >> I'll agree to that amendment to my motion. Do we have a second? >> A second. >> We have a motion and a second. I'm not going to repeat it because I could never do it. Um,
I'm going to ask for a roll call vote. Mr. Sylvester, >> yes. >> Mr. Walsh, >> yes. >> Mr. TR, >> yes. >> Mr. Gay, >> yes. >> Myself, yes. >> Okay. So, we'll set that meeting for April >> second.
>> 2nd. better than April 1st. Hopefully you got all that, Danielle. Well, you got the tape to fall back on. >> You don't got to worry about me, Tom. I'm good at my job. >> Okay. I wasn't suggesting you weren't.
It was just a lot of discussion. >> I know. Speaking of discussions, next up is 314 Plymouth Street for an update of what's going on over there, which is probably more interesting. Um, so
the gentleman that was here from Florida has been in constant contact back and forth. The biggest hold up there is the telephone poll to start the whole process. So Verizon has pretty much told him that the end of this week, beginning of next week, it will go on the schedule
and it'll take two weeks after that and they'll work on the poll. Um, that's the biggest thing. The other thing you guys questioned was the handicap ramp in the front. >> That is on the plan. That is that is built
>> it's it's built as per plan. Just so you guys realize, it is on the property. It's not on the towns. Um, >> it is a foot on the sidewalk. >> What's that? >> I believe it's a foot onto the sidewalk. >> Yeah, the layout, not the sidewalk itself.
>> A little piece of concrete that connects the sidewalk and the rail. >> Um, the biggest issue there that I see after the snow was the snow. So, um, my suggestion to the board would be to have
some kind of snow removal on their, um, exit because they literally filled the retention pond with the snow, salt, trash. Uh, I I've had them go and hand
clean it. And um the other thing that I notice on the plan is the the plan calls for concrete curve around the site. The site has asphalt cake card BM. If it had
concrete bread loaf BM, the plow wouldn't be going up over it and getting into the retention line. >> Gotcha. So, my other thought would be some type of guardrail, whether it becomes a big timber guard rail or
uh regular highway um galvanized guardrail if you don't require them to put the concrete >> and the plan calls for t concrete typical. Is that right? >> It does. It does. So, I have a call into them on that and they haven't gotten
back to me with an answer. >> I'm not surprised. Um uh they're waiting for the asphalt plants up in Norwood to open so that they're not on winter rate. They seem to be in no rush. There seems to be like cuz in my opinion they should
be here planting grass and doing shrubs and making that site what it should be and finishing the site and they seem to be disappeared. So, um, that's all I can get out of them. Uh, they need to come
to us or to you to for relief. Um, but Starbucks doesn't seem to be involved at all. It's just leaders because Starbucks, as far as I can see, >> they're just doing the building. >> They're just a tenant in the building. So, they're probably upset with them on the other side that they are in their
building. But again, >> so what we need to do is again ask them to leaders to come in because it's all leaders issues. >> Well, I just I would let leaders get your answers to the issues. Yeah. >> Yeah. Point out what they are and ask them.
>> I don't see them having another date to come back until some things. >> Well, I'm I'm suggesting we send them a letter pointing that stuff out and say, you know, we want a response or, you know,
This is going to predicate your opening. >> They are fully aware that that place will not open till that traffic light is done. >> Yeah. >> And the pavement is done uh on their entrance. >> We did express at one time that we would entertain a motion or entertain the idea
of taking a bond for the signaling equipment, but I have not seen them come back about that again. >> Yeah. Cameras. So, we we we did tell them that we would do that and uh I think that's on the least of their list
right now. I think the biggest issue is getting that telephone pole. I I don't see them being able to move forward until the telephone pole is out of the intersection. >> Michael, are they still looking at the $300,000 bond for the light to they got back? Yes. No, good, bad, anything. They
they they thought it was fine, but uh to be honest, >> the light will be installed before they'll ever get off. >> I'm just being truthful because the light was only on backwards till the middle of April. >> There's no way they're finishing the site in 30 days.
There's no They are responsible to build that whole retention pond behind the the auto part store and they're not there working, >> right? >> Okay. I I can't tell them to wait. >> No, no, no. That that's up to them. That's up to them. >> If they don't come back here for three
months, they don't come back here for three months. I you know, I'm just trying to give you the information that um they've reached back and forth a couple of times, but I believe that um leaders is the issue there. It's not
>> So that gentleman that was here the last time he he wasn't from leaders, he although he was the and he seemed very gung-ho and very Let's get going. And >> yeah, he's thinking he No, he calls. He's thinking. Yes, he is.
>> Um, >> keeping in mind he's the third guy >> on this project. >> Exactly. And, you know, I think there's been three or four GCs down at the job as well. >> Yeah. >> I again, that's not that's not our deal. We don't care.
>> They build it in six years. I mean, honestly, um, it's not affecting traffic at all. >> Next week, put a call in. >> I think so. >> Storm damage,
>> Mike, is that that Darren Welding? >> He he was the one that was here. >> Yes. >> And he's the one that submitted the letter to the board on our second page there. >> Yeah. So, I find it tough to be able to really talk about some of the things that I've
seen when I've been driving by there because we don't have a mouse to access our files and we don't have our files here. And it really is a problem like to be not being able to look at something to be able to talk about it. Like what?
>> Like for instance, the site plan. I want to know whether or not the Autozone um building is cited correctly because it's very close to the sidewalk. >> They have to present a certified foundation plan. >> They have a certified as built for the foundation. >> It looks really close.
>> They have a certified as for the engineer before I let them proceed with the block. So, the planning board should be able to have files here so that we can look at things and have because we all could have questions. I know I do.
>> I'm here. >> But at every single meeting, we should be able to have the files so that we could look at them. I when I go to other towns planning board meetings, they have the files and we need the files on hand to be able to actually properly do our job.
>> Okay. Well, you're asking the right person who's technically in charge of all that. >> No, actually, we are. We're the planning board and we're in charge of the secretary and making sure that >> No, we're not actually. >> Yes, we are. Actually, we're not in charge of me. I can tell you that right
now. Planning board is not charge of me. >> She works after this discussion. >> Yeah, >> let's not have this discussion. >> But we need our we need our move. Anything else on 314?
What about the island? >> So, I'm glad you brought that up because that's one of his questions back is he wants to present a plan for removal of the island and he'd like to know what color you would like to have the
crosswalk painted and cross-hatched or um cuz he wants to have it done once. So, >> that was one of the only questions. I'm sorry I didn't uh >> when we take that out, which the DPW director is in agreement with that it
comes out and we just pave it across and just put the crosswalk through it. >> And what's he going to do about the ramps there to uh where we have that the uh having a senior?
>> Yeah, the I want to call it the rumble strip. That's what it is. the yellow pad that got ripped up. >> Yeah, they're all going to come out. All the all the walk all the sidewalks have to come out from concrete at one end all the way to concrete at the other end.
Every sidewalk has to come out of the We already have >> uh that was >> Well, at least they picked up the barrels recently cuz those were laying down in the road and the silock still kind of encroaching on the sidewalk over there. But but again, we don't have
anyone back there with no understand issue in my opinion. And I told them that I go, >> "Where's your site, guys? Why are you guys not here?" Like, "We should be fixing. >> There's some storm there. It's like in the asphalt. There's some holes. And we should get temporary patches in there."
And that's not the town's responsibility to call patch. That's theirs. >> So, one other thing on the list, too, is the road cuts. Yeah. Yeah. We know that that that's really highway, but Yeah. >> Yeah. Now, we keep including it, but
it's really the highway, >> but it is all part of it. >> Yeah. Well, like I said, we keep including it and bringing it up in the discussions, but it's really the purview of highway, >> right? Well, we're supposed to make sure >> he gave him the permit to open the road. We didn't give him the permit to open the road. So, he needs to satisfy. and
they report to us so that we don't sign off on anything that should >> Oh yeah. Well, that's why we have always included the highway surveyor too. Of >> course we will. >> Um my last question is uh we looked for a lighting plan too. >> Yes, we asked them about a lighting plan
cuz I don't think that was part of the part of this that's on here. So, this is from Darren on March 6th, which was the day after our last planning board meeting. Hi, Mike. Uh, thanks again for taking the
time to meet with me yesterday. I think it was really helpful for us to get a good handle on things. I'm attaching a few um of the items we discussed last night, and you can pass them along to the board members that requested them as well. I included everything related to the
drainage from the existing conditions to all the detention and erosion control. I also included the lighting plan that Amy requested. I know that I know one thing we talked about last night was the ramp at the front of stopup site. It does not
look like that ramp is in the initial plans. I know when the snow melts, you will be able to get a better look at it and see if it was installed correctly, but it does look like it has been in the approved plans all along. Regarding the median removal, we talked about taking
the concrete island out and painting it instead of which works great. There was also a request for putting in a sign to tell people it's right turn only. Based on the discussion last night, it sounded like the expectation was that the trucks would be using the light at access point. However, the plans have the truck
turning analysis done based on the right in put in there as well. Right in right out, sorry, between Starbucks and AutoZone. With this being the case, there obviously couldn't be a sign put in there as well as the painting. I apologize. I wasn't able to bring that
up at the meeting last night, but I'm just getting up to speed on the specifics of the project. I included the truck turning analysis for you to look at as well. I'm continuing to work through all the other items we discussed and we'll keep you updated. >> What he was referring to was he can't
put a sign in the middle of that island, right? >> Shows the signs on both >> sides, right? That's what I was getting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I I don't think he has a lot of construction back. >> So, if we're checking boxes of things we're done, so the lighting plane is satisfied, like we're good with that,
but we need to >> We have to see it. >> Yeah. Get get a review of it from Yeah. Got to get a review of it. >> Yeah. And and we don't even have it. >> It's on. >> I think it's in the plan. I thought there was photometrics and everything that we got,
please. >> Let us know how it looks. >> I thought I saw photometrics. >> Yeah, >> the one I saw on the email >> on the email, but we don't have it here to look at. So like we I I would like
everything here to look at. That's I think it's in the plan there. >> I have stuff from 318 here. This is 318. >> Oh, that's right. >> That's right. That's not >> Yeah, that's 318. >> Yeah, that's not
>> so I mean like it's really difficult to, you know, do any of the review and we don't have the documents on hand. >> So, we'll reach out to them as well. Chris, you had your hand up. >> She reminded me actually from this past when she said rain. I noticed that this
past we had a lot of rain and I don't know if it connects to their site or if this has been a continuing problem. I think this is at half the intersection 40 set of lights. So from the stop and shop side, it was probably as wide as this room was a pond. Like the street
wasn't draining. Does that go under 106 off out to the fields like behind me? >> I don't know if anybody really knows how that drainage goes. >> Is that an old problem I've been hearing and discussed for quite a while, right?
Not adding to this 314 318. Actually, I believe that that was supposed to be part of the um remedy for all of this >> cuz the pond started like the road in the center intersection was all one lane 106 and then like up stop and shops road
like there was a manhole that wasn't draining or something. >> The thing we should do there is reach out to the highway surveyor as well to come to that meeting and he can answer those kinds of questions. >> Yeah. So to that point, um, initially, I think it was last year or maybe even the
year before, all of those, um, a drainage basins were supposed to be all cleaned out. They never were. Uh, and then we were going to have, uh, some sort of a die put in to find out where the actually going, and that just never
happened here. Well, again, we uh will reach out to the highway surveyor who's the most I'm going to say capable of answering those questions. I hopefully he knows, but some of those things have been a mystery for a long time.
>> Right. But if the die had gone through and we figured it out, then we'd know if if it's affecting the drainage that we're all looking at here today. >> Well, that's what we can ask. Um, I guess what we're doing is um looking for a motion to reach out to
leaders to present the concerns we have and get responses from them. Can I get somebody to put that in the form of a motion? Well, uh I actually thought that's what we did the last meeting was when the
gentleman was here, but I I'll make a motion to uh uh have the board submit a letter for an update as to uh the current uh you know, situation or condition of of
>> those points that were discussed at our previous meeting specific >> to include >> Yeah. snow removal, concrete BMS, the island and lighting plan, >> the time frame >> and time frame. >> And anything else that was on the letter
that we sent out? >> Yeah, we put it on the last time. Can I get a second? >> I'll second. >> Thank you. All those in favor? >> I I >> I don't hear anybody opposing.
No. Unanimous. We will do that. Uh that's all we have on the agenda. There is some notices to a butters from other towns. There's a lot of them. I don't know if you want to read them.
>> And also um Jay Bookerfeld emailed the planning board and I would have thought that that would have been um maybe um maybe that would have been on our agenda. I don't know who or what that's about or when that came
in. >> Um, it came in before the last meeting, Wednesday before the last meeting making that uh March 4th and it was sent to everyone. Um, no, you you and me.
>> I don't remember if I don't recall that. >> I know this one. >> Yeah. Look, it's like stuck. >> This is like stuck to >> Can I ask you like a procedural question? >> Sure. Absolutely. >> So, like the snow removing the light of
the plan that has all been approved already. We're just I don't know that we actually pushed them to put that on the plan. I just don't remember. I need to look at that myself. Typical typically not not to talk about this project but typically that's all
should be signed off when we >> yeah coming late to the biggest project in town this stuck to it >> oh that's why even even um
318 was before me I came on when we were >> Oh that's right after we started dealing with Starbucks. >> Yeah. >> And honestly, that's when I was going through my thing. >> Was there anything be considered a modification as well? >> Yeah. When it was brought to my
attention, I actually asked the question on the plan. I said, "Does it say I just out of curiosity has both. >> Does it say buminous?" >> Yes. >> Concrete. And it did not. It said concrete. Typical. Cuz I came in to look at the plant cuz I said if it says buminous concrete, I mean that's
asphalt. >> Yes. >> So, yeah. And it's kind of confusing if you haven't, you know, been exposed to that stuff. >> So far, we have an addition on Carol, something on winner, which is not really
a buying something on Liberty. Just for those folks who don't know what happens, the planning board of every town needs to notify the abuing planning boards of every town if there's a um a
plan before them that could potentially affect the abuing town. So that's one of the mailings that are required to go out. Um, one is a mulch and crush stone place going at AJ Tamasi and the other one is Honey Farms on the corner of um, Church
Street and not Union Street, but whatever Union Street and no um, Noel, you know what I'm talking about. Marshfield is they're tearing that down and putting in a new um, gas station. And I know that because I was at the
planning board meeting because of the um bylaws on battery storage that are being presented over there to get us prepared for maybe putting in a bylaw to protect our town from the battery storage plants. >> Could it just be overridden by the
Commonwealth anyway? That's how the Commonwealth rolls. Um, unless we get that mail out. >> We don't have bills. We don't have minutes. It's all she does. >> And then again, so we did get a an email
from Jake Ogrefelt and that's not um in here, but it would be something that has to do with um his aboding property. Um I forget the number Home Street, but >> the bills. >> Yep.
And that was from March 4th that he emailed the planning board. >> Okay. >> I believe I mentioned it at the last meeting as well. >> I guess that's it. I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Second.
>> I'll second. >> Moved and seconded to adjurnn. All those in favor? I I >> Thank you. Got it.