[Music] okay seeing that it's uh 7:00 I'm going to uh open up the meeting of the Halifax planning board uh located at FL 99
Plymouth Street in Halifax uh we'll be meeting here in the elman's meeting room Thursday this is February 20th 2025 at 7:00 p.m. uh president at the meeting is Brendan Elliot Amy troop myself Bert Gainer Tom
millius and Rick muray okay we uh have the uh agenda in front of us here uh do I have a motion to accept the um uh agenda for the meeting of February 20th 2025 as
presented so moved do I have a second second uh all those in favor to accept the agenda as presented say I I I unanimous okay let's uh oh yeah I have to make that announcement that the
uh in the open meeting you announced time the planning board meeting is being recorded by uh area 58 and can be reviewed on YouTube okay let's go with our first one uh the appointments uh pspr 2 4-20 mon
ponet street map 95 lock 10 site plan review and continue PB SP 24-20 one ponet street map 95 Lot 10 special permit application there somebody here to speak on that yes sir your name and
and where you from please yes uh hi good afternoon my name is Gabriel PF from great Consulting um so we went back and forth with comments with Pat br uh last comments uh we received we responded he got back to us everything
has been addressed um from the changes that were in the plan we removed some uh some surface drainage um and we corrected some of the things that he had noted in the plans um I would keep it short and sweet
um if any has anyone has any other questions um I'd be glad to answer them uh quick question do we have uh any in the file regarding uh Mr Bran's uh findings questions and and the answers
to those questions we have it right here oh I'm sorry it's right in the do we need that is that what's in our thank you sir we may need it well that's what's over there other than C thank
you but inall right here do you want me to read them in uh no I just like to go through and see uh just verify that uh the uh the points that uh needed to be addressed you said we're all addressed
and there was any type of is there another letter saying yes thank you they're all been squared away I believe at the end of that letter he does have statement [Applause] saying sure why don't you read that then
please this email is from Patrick Brennan on February 6th 2025 um sent to Kevin greedy and then also uh various Bo U people that represent the boards in um
Halifax and it says uh some questions comments on the revised plans the landscape plan is missing the red part is added to the updated plan Yes actually in the letter that I provided um those last comments have
been addressed those comments I believe were for the six yeah I was just saying maybe you could show us the updated yes yes yes excuse me that's fine okay just like we're doing here we
have [Applause] okay do you recall something about the trees and the spacing from the road did from the highway department or from the highway the highway department surveyor did not want
trees in the area yeah which we don't have any trees okay what's up the Border um on P Street yeah the road lay oh obstruct view or something that just I do now that you say that we all that all right the Landscaping po which
is that was the first one okay the second one is um where is the note on sheet 7 specifying the ads and 12's I don't know if it means Street or St pipe and cover and the red notation
is I added another note but the don't worry n-12 St was referenced to sh15 what is the um n- 12st so n12 uh the n12 pipes are pipes that are
actually thicker and do provide H20 loading originally the plan did not have those pipes so we changed those pipes to have those um roof drain con actually overflow roof drain to be 6 in ads and
12 STP will you tell for that okay which is is in so basically moving water or directing that is used for the roof drains okay it picks up the roof drains
and brings it into the drainage system has to be H20 loading because it's going to be under the road so that means cars and trucks can go over it Pip's going to be fine thank you anybody have any questions on that okay conservation didn't have any problems with that either right I
thought they had some concerns about it the well about the loading yeah change it yeah okay um the third notation is uh there are still notes on some of the sheets related to the subsurface systems um
sheets seven and eight and then maybe some others and the red note said um so I believe this is you right Gabriel I removed the notes related to the SSD yes I word searched the file and there are no occurrences of
SSD yes plan that doesn't have the subsurface trains anymore okay the fourth notation is uh I do not believe that you submitted the cut and fill analysis and then it you uploaded
it as requested and then Pat also said the following additional comments that I verbally mentioned in the planning board hearing still need to be addressed um to I only have that they need to
be adjusted do you recall what they were the the grades themselves or the cut and fill analysis oh sorry we addressed that the um oh the other comment that might have
been to do with it uh that's on the final final items on the list that can Prov I believe one of them is a s path or the vehicle fire we're showing here the other ones I'm not so
sure um in addition to the above okay so you have the other ones were that you would show the all the other abouts within 300 ft yeah the lighting plan and then the fire department yeah path is here um the
lighting plan I believe it was separate from this set but it was provided okay same thing with the U the radius and the turning everything for the fire fire this plan was uploaded this new plan was uploaded but that lighting plan I believe was separate right was was
there a uh a new response from the fire chief or anything regarding that you know the the updated version of it um I don't believe from the fire department we did we did from uh that's oh just I don't think we have anything in
writing from the fire department at least in my documents anybody from the board have uh any questions for Mr Brady about I did did did we address the the conom is all SP away yes not yet
they still haven't closed I believe but and there is a hearing next Tuesday for the storm water okay so you haven't got the storm water for not yet okay but all the items from kcom to the com that they had were addressed pretty much the letter that was my next
question if they had you know the same thing as Mr Brennan or whatever well brenn's letter actually uh does cover planning board and C where do we sit with National Heritage um I would have to defer to
we'll go down you have one for all of us nice damn nicely done logos printed out in color what a kiss up all right all right [Applause]
under the Wetland protection act is therefore in the second to the last paragraph last sentence therefore it is our opinion that the that this project appears to meet the state listed uh species performance standard for the issuance of an order of conditions that's why I printed it out
with color same thing for the Massachusetts endangered species the last two sentences as a result of that review the division determine that this project result in a take of eastn box turtle
division letter dated 105 20123 project resulting in a take of State listed Spees may only be permitted if they meet the performance standards for conservation and management permit CMP 321 CMR 10.23 is that part of what you're doing
with conservation do you have um that should have gone to conservation I think it's already been submitted to them okay and did they um give you any like thing like barriers that you need to put up or anything Vol conservation yet oh for
this yeah okay so you'll be doing that on Tuesday okay the 25th okay gotcha okay you did well not that easy to get foals from
Heritage fishes and water you have an anr time period planned do you know what that is no oh that's um the subdividing of this lot from the the whole no I have to check they're not us yet okay do you have you
have a purchase and sale though on all all the yeah how about a uh motion and since you know brought it up enter the letter from the Massachusetts uh uh division of of fisheries and wildlife into the record
okay into I would just like to see the lighting plan just to check all the boxes but I don't I'm tempted to ask um Caesar where it might be actually the what PL oh sorry the lighting plan
that's the only thing Cesar do you see it hi can you help us get to the planning board um zom pit file that oh the regulatory Department that's what I was thank you so much and
there you go thank you updated files lighting plan thank you not that it's going to like disturb any necessary neas but just crossing the teeth and they have like dos over the
top so they don't shine out down I was just going to say the shielded going towards end thank you Carrie all your lighting is just what's on the building there's
no there go oh that's that's helpful yeah can we get it 3D maybe real 3D why you play yeah yeah okay cool that check the I'll make a motion I'll make a motion and
that we approve the site plan for hold on I need to look up the document um pspr 24-2 zero Monon treat map 95 Lot
10 um for we'll do this the them separate okay for site plan review um with the conditions that conservation signs off on the National Heritage and any other storm water
management Etc that um and that we follow all other laws of 167 for the town town of heax and that we have um a successful anr plan
approved did I miss something you think I think we got it pretty much covered I have a motion on the floor do I have a second one second okay just for uh discussion just for clarification uh I I know there was uh some work done do we have anything other
than zero on pet Street for an address I mean other than map and whatnot what happens is the assessors won't assign a number to it until it's physically carved off the property yeah it's still and it like means an anr plan
yeah I mean right now we have a the master map and lot and number but that's all we can deal with for the time being okay I do know there was a discussion on it this way we see if we could clarify is
it all of Lot 10 should we ask that do you know do you know is it all of Lot 10 the the the lot that we're talking about is it oh no I don't think it is right so yeah it's because um the Bost well
Boston Edison used me to in the middle of all that I don't know if they own that or is that just an easement I don't remember uh I believe they own it yeah I I thought they did okay any other questions or anything right I have a motion on the floor in a
second uh all those in uh favor I'll ask for voiceful Brendon yes Amy yes myself yes strong yes and Rick yes uh passes 5 to0 to zero and now the special yep you want to do the second one
um to make the motion on it let me gather my thoughts first please it's a special permit to put business in that zoning District right or is it just square footage I oh yeah it's just a square footage that's what I was looking for cuz it's not a
special permit to do storage cuz it's industrial that's right it is indust so it's the square footage okay and can we can we just clarify all that before we make a motion on the exact square footage that we're going over again cuz
it's only a few can we just clarify that so that I know how to make the motion please in terms of the area so we're looking for a special permit to go above and beyond the size of the buildings um that are within our bylaws
what if we got that set at now 15 it was 5,1 addiction yeah I think it's [Applause] 15 15 and we have a 23 20,00 400 is that the largest room that floor
are, combined with just I'm going to reference the actual bylaw just to be like so just give me a second to find the bylaw section 16770 thank you I would have been
looking for a little while [Applause] that's a square footage of the largest building larest building I don't have the areas here help me out 290 by 20 that's
400 4, 48 48 was the B accumulated or was it for I think we did this before for um the storage the second storage I want to
say or the first one no the one that didn't go through on the 318 property we that we talked about that and I thought but that was one building but then we did go over it again
on the one next door to you guys behind O'Reilly's we went over that because they had multiple buildings and one building that was larger than the rest do you recall that yeah there was a two-story thing yes have know here all
commercial buildings are structures 15,00 000 ft or greater in area of all above ground floors are allowable by special permit from the pl commercial industrial indal 2 and conserv conserv
and that was the 1677 D I have a section 1677 part 13 that's that's where all buildings right all commercial buildings 15,000 ft or greater in area
of all technically each building is separate that sounds like each building is separate to me and not cumulative that's why I was asking so they're all separate you would you wouldn't need a special that's what I was get all together it's over 20,000 yeah all
commercial buildings or structures 15,000 sare ft² or greater in an area all above ground floors are allow by special that's what you just read I'm I'm not sure even these a special so we going to gr one just in
case I mean the special premise Comm conditions well let's determine this it says all uh all commercial buildings or structures okay so that sounds 15,000 ft or greater
an area of all above ground floors are allowable if they were all together I I'd be on board with that agreed I really don't based on the language I'm interpreting I don't believe it needs a special perit I think it's the difference between like a building or a structure being considered like a
parking garage isn't a building but it's a structure we're going to have a 15,000 ft parking garage in the middle of well although the it does it does say I mean like it to me it it could be read and I'm just saying this is arguments just a
not argument but all alterar thought all commercial buildings or structures so could they be cumulative to the 15,000 I mean if I was making a zoning interpretation I would say it would be individual buildings how about we do the special
permit just for the sake of it with the condition of you're not going to conjoin the buildings together I think that the building inspector probably asked him to get a special permit for it so even with the fire department it was individually the biggest building is 5,800 ft so it
doesn't didn't have to SC that was all I'll just say that they combine them all together you thought that sprinkle was yeah right who the next Department B that would potentially ask if they had a special permit nobody nobody's going to ask for
it Beyond unless the building is Factor when he's when they apply for their permit asks about it but I that's I'm theorizing but I I don't see him doing that we can also juster fact that we yeah like Denis wouldn't had it come up
though so maybe may maybe we should do it just in case because yeah I mean it doesn't hurt to do it you know um you already applied for it okay get your money s yeah anything else yeah you just put it
so that is if there has to be a condition to it then just have it that they won't conjoin the buildings to make one big structure all right I like it well they can anyways right so that's on the special permit application for pbsp
24-2 zero mon ponon street map 95 Lot 10 make a um we'll go for the special permit uh approval with the condition
that um they have their anr successfully completed and that they yeah I think that's pretty much it following 167 7
D13 it's not D13 it's 16713 what should I resay it no got not necessary not necessary already have a motion on the floor uh I'll second have a second on that okay we'll ask for any
further discussion any of the questions brand new members of the board uh Al ask for voice for Ron yes damy yes myself yes Tom yes and Rick yes should start at the other end of the table it passes
5 thanks Gabriel congrats guys good luck on the rest of it that was the easiest one since I've been well we'll see you again for your and our plan one that com through okay uh let's move on we see
that uh one of the uh discussions was uh requested that they uh not be present for the project manager on on behalf of Walmart so that was taken off so we can move on to discussions of uh 314 Plymouth Street CCO discussion regarding
site plan modification uh the a notation and uh we have coffee l in folders from uh attorney Krauss that's requested to uh be able to appear at our
next meeting uh of March 6 2025 to uh give them ample time to uh change modify add subtract or or at least address the issues that were brought up by the board uh last time
from last time yes did we determine cuz we talked about having the three easements that were necessary we know there was one missing did we confirm whether or not hold on let me look and see what it was called
again all the I came in earlier today and looked at all the easements the easements that I'm going 314 needs they have one of the things I was going to suggest is we need to reach out to R&J because we need to know if their site plan needs to
be modified because everything is conjoined over there the drainage from 314 is flowing through 318 and I'm I don't know if 340 if you just going to ask if you've
worked out with R&J there was an easement that he needed from you folks or appear needed your name and addresser Tom down to 340 P Street so there is a enement there on enement there's a plan
that Silva has put together on the uh pth County be's website so there is one out there uh that still put together okay um when was that Tom like recently or or years ago or January of last year
time frame So the plan exists the plan exist this okay uh an easan has been drafted and we're working with Mr PEC right now for a timeing of when that e will be
uh put put in place okay all right so so progress has been made so progress is is making but we don't have anything in writing yet as far as when that easement will be uh the P will be put in and the retaining wall will be uh but Tom is that the only thing just the date as in
when or is it actual agreement signed and agreed upon nothing's been signed and agreed upon uh we're just waiting for that document as far as the date of when that's going to happen and that's where we are right now so everything has been worked out except for a date of
impementation great okay good that's a step right there that's that's progress right but we need we need that uh that guarantee on the Starbucks property the CCO property that um that that can't continue
until this easement is actually yeah I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you I apologize I think um the building inspector and the our our engineer has verified that nobody's signing off anything until the drainage
is connected it's just kind of a unique situation because um 314s drainage really only goes to 318 it's really the problem from 318 to the country club which goes through 340 that is 340 right
I just want to make sure I'm using the right number um so you know once you guys are squared away then their drainage can you guys as in as an RJ and okay um but prior to that um they're
proceeding at their own Peril next door if they can't get the drainage to connect so I you know right but again I I don't want CCO to continue because once once that is black docked uh all of the drainage all that water will FL into
that ditch and cause us more problems understood understood um that's why we asked for castco or 314 C being the engineer to come in and explain to us what's going on and in the meantime I think we need to reach out to um Sila
because that plan's going to be modified as well and I think we need to give them to weeks here to get some time together and present the plan that we can actually look at and make some sense out of rather than have guess work is we're guessing at this point so what we want
to do from from what what I learned last at the last meeting is that this is going to be added to the requirements for Casco is to have the 340 public stre uh easement installed prior to any further development at the CCO site um
and then my other question well actually it's a statement but um my question to you is what was the result of uh notifying the building inspector he about the building building permit
um do I have this letter I have the letter I can't remember what he said on there I mean I I've spoken to him and my understanding is that he's satisfied that they've met their conditions in terms of the ease they need he said the
problem is meaning CCO meaning Casco excuse me at 314 they they sat he he is of the opinion that they've satisfied their conditions the issue lies in between with r RJ's property going
across 340s property and he says he would not in fact ever issue an occupancy permit um based on the fact that this that the drainage is not completed and again like in the last meeting we stated the uh Town engineer said he would not be signing off on it
until that was for occupancy until uh that matter was all straightened out yeah I just but I I don't I don't trust that well I mean at that meeting last year at this
time uh your engineer said that this easan had to be put in place prior to any development on 314 or 38 18 yeah unfortunately we didn't put that in the order conditions that's yeah
that's but it's out there I understand but if it isn't in the order of conditions it isn't enforceable you can't you can't revise those well this is why we asked them to come in so we could discuss this okay so is this discussion an option for them that they
can decline or is this an is this an order from the planning board that they have to comply with we asked as I recall we asked for them to come in so we could discuss the need for a site plant modification because it is being
modified to the sense that that if in fact the storage facility is not going to happen at this time I don't know if it's ever going to happen but at least at this moment it's not going to happen that we need to be clarified they need to clarify to
us who's doing what portion of the road how far the road's going the road is actually an RJ's property that's why I was alluding earlier that they need to come in as well so that you know we can modify that site plan as well so Tom
like part of that site plan so 314 where CCO has Starbucks and O'Reilly part of their parking and their way into the property is on 318 which is why the common driveway 167
10 hour is is always is a bylaw it's not because we're trying to be sticklers it's to get out of these situations but then also that common driveway depends upon they were going to do the light they were going to put in the light they were going to meet it up with so that
all needs to be done so they shouldn't be doing anything until we get that most of I disagree I mean that's for occupancy so that they can operate the units but in the meantime I mean they've got CB cut that they already own that they can access their
property with no they don't it's it's literally it's literally on the site plan that they can only leave through that exit to the right that's when the facil is finish d That's not during construction I mean that's not even reasonable it is reasonable because
their whole entire site plan isn't to disagree well not A lot's going to happen the next two weeks anyway Frost in the ground they're not they're not you know Progressive at all there it makes no sense to do anything really because of the conditions you can't do
anything right the way the conditions are you know most companies will work in these conditions just to keep the employees busy you know that's pretty much what's going on um you know they get a break in the weather and things will move on but in two weeks I can't see anything that does happen they're not going to be Paving it so I wouldn't
be worried about any water running anywhere um I think it's worthwhile just to wait for them to come in and try to address the problem problem and um you know why we want to get into a big uh punching match about uh you know you
can't work and this and that you know we don't really really need to have them come back and threaten us with another lawsuit well what about the town threatening us for not having the letter correctly written up or um and recorded because it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't written cor it's really important to
stop them now instead of waiting 2 weeks is that so important to you really it doesn't make any sense they're not going to get a lot well they're not following the site plan at all because they don't have they don't they're not building the access to it they don't have put the buildings up that's that was the whole
reason for that access was for their drive-thru that work and if they didn't get that access they weren't even going to come to town also they parking they requirements built by the so you want the parking lot in first before they put the building up is that what you're saying well their parking requirements
are on another lot so we need to make sure of what they're doing what we have an ually but we also have it that they are only taking a right out of that so what are they doing we need to the site plan needs to to be updated I understand but they shouldn't
be doing any work exactly what I said but we asked them to come in for modification I'm I'm going to end this conversation only because this is going to go absolutely nowhere I'm going to attempt to end this conversation I'm going to make a motion that we reschedule uh Casco and I forget the
name of the LLC but for 314 P Street to the March 6th meeting and at the same time asked to get a representative from R&J from their engineering people to come in and also contribute to that meeting on the on the
6th and will our will our be here for that well yeah I'd like to see our engineer here at the same time right I just to to just button this up which I would hope lands in your favor is let's get everybody get the whole team in the
room I just want was agreed to at the last meeting that's all I want right I understand that I'm saying the people that we need to call in are going to be the ones that hopefully are able to facilitate that that's that's why those are the people in the room that are going to be able to yeah we'll all know what's going on and we've got to give
them the two weeks so we can get accurate information otherwise you know we're all speculating and we not get anywhere it's not sorry go ahead oh no that's all right go ahead and you finish no I was just going to say it's it's not under I'm not interpreting this in any way that anybody's has anything
nefarious like that they're trying to pull over on anybody or whatever it's just this is getting deeper than above our pay grades I agree I don't think anybody had any idea that the storage facility wasn't wasn't going to go through all of a sudden that's surprise
but I think that the my biggest question for for Council would be again about against about the letter how it should have been written and then it wasn't right because it is on record of the recording so that would be the question of well that already is is date stamps
so what is the repercussions or what are our actions moving for from there and then the engineers come in and then all this other stuff so I just think to their point get all the Professionals in a room and let's hash it out on the sixth and then that only makes sense so it doesn't turn into the well you or I
or this or that it's just get all the those people in room and I would 100% agree with that 100% however we need to make sure or that they know that they need to do a modification where the storage facility is or is not going in
they need to do a modification CU otherwise they don't they don't have enough parking they don't have true access it's not helping out all of that it's really no modification nothing's changing it just well somebody's got to put the road in it's obviously the
storage you know the storage buildings put in the road it so if these guys want to happen they're going to have to work something out going to have to do it and plus the drainage and everything else that's what like to me Common Sense tells me this we should tell CCO that because otherwise they're doing a whole
bunch of work with I'm sure they must know by fine but we should make sure to cross that te because if they do all this work and then they can't do it Tom's next meeting talked about that's all there is to it we can sit here all day and just PCH this all we're not well somebody
needs to make the light in the driveway and everything so I I I so that's why we're asking everybody to come in to find out who's doing I understand but nobody should be doing any not there anymore and it's no longer their responsibility okay who responsibility is it so we plans to reflect what's
actually going to happen right and that but we can't do that here tonight we need to give them some time to come in and give us the information present what they need to present and we can move from there let me modify your motion to say that we need CCO to do a site plan
modification yeah but they don't know what they modifying yet yeah isn't that what we're doing next time yeah exactly that's that's what we're going to discuss the modification In fairness right cuz I I completely understand where you're going with that there is no way knowing this board that we're going
to have all those people in this room next time and anything is going to be left on the table like everything is going to be poured out so which only makes sense as it should be but I'm saying instead of worrying about the small details now we'll get everybody in there cuz everybody's going to pull everything out of their pocket CU we're
just guessing right exactly what are your thoughts as the about that sounds fine with me um I just don't want it this I just don't want this to live on I want it to be over right and I think in the two weeks you'll probably have a date with Mr
PE poent you may even be have a consummated agreement by the two weeks so so this whole thing looks like it'll come together better we just put it off for the two weeks we get one more conrete thing we could work with if that
in fact there is an agreement if the date is date certain there's one more concrete fact that would enter into it so everybody could at least have something to work with know the more the more uh people that we have
uh moving towards this easement the better so you know I definitely would love to have Costco pushing for this easement um well they have to have that e they have to easement right something else and
forcing Mr peek to do the easement so um he's willing right now but you know we did design the the easement and then he said that he wasn't going to do it and then he was going to do it and then he wasn't going to do it so he's been very
fickle uh through this process so I really want something in place to force the EAS but does he have other options for for Dage out there and that these are the questions that we need to discuss I understand several there's several Eng out there he would he would
have to fight uh gravity U so okay all right so I mean that that'll be very difficult well it sounds like you're you you folks have at least made some progress even if you're not there yet right and and there's a good possibility that your deal or your Arrangements will
be consummated like I said in 2 weeks I mean at least the possibility and then if that's in place that makes everything else easier and then we just need to clarify who's doing what and especially when our Council gives the Nodge right
then that then we go off of what council say he's the guy that's going to say yeah or nay I mean and that as far as what we're going to do so yeah but I think we should still send out some sort of a notification to CCO that says like so far we have no um
indication that the common driveway is going to be developed and cover ourselves they can't run their business if they can't well we should cover ourselves by letting them know why asking them to come in I get it but we should just send them an email and make sure that they are aware or we can let
the Sleeping Bear lie until we get but if they continue doing work then they could say to us you guys knew and didn't say and we've been doing this work and now we can't do this and then we're going to have to buy this land put in this and put in light and we're not willing to do that so you let us do all
this work without notifying us didn't they do all that work before they were supposed to well they were given the building permit and nobody said anything about the other stuff needing to be done so we might be leaving our downside to what she saying or is there an upside
like I mean if whether there's an upside or not is there a downside because if it's an even who cares if we send any yeah we can send them an email to tell them to be prepared yeah okay so let's do that right go thank you very much can I ask a step question now if that's it's
not on that it's kind of on not on that you can uh you know what I'm saying so the whole storage facility was a big to-do right and then this project came in behind it with a
bunch of agreements that was kind of piggybacking off of that storage facility and now once the bigger project got passed now miraculously the storage facility is not being built am I the only one that's connecting a DOT here
no I know it's like if we can get that done then we have a better chance of getting this done and now that this is done never mind they they could have still put the drainage in and gotten ements if they needed them okay and built the driveway wanted to ask the
question because right walk like a duck y yep just you know so what the motion on the flooor is is to send an email to CCO letting them now
we can send an email to the parties involved yeah the parties involved to be prepared to discuss site plan re uh modifications based on the current information or or something based on the fact that the parking and common
driveway aren't set to be built and that they need that for themselves don't know that we don't even know officially that the storage isn't going in that's why we need to have them come in and discuss the site PL so we can decide what they need and what they don't need I I'm
pretty sure I'm pretty sure that we discussed that it wasn't going in well that that's from us here sa I mean I'm assuming it's not going here our board has never received anything in writing or notification that the that the storage project was it
should be on the so if you did if you did the original motion which was on place that we punt this to the March 6th meeting and in the meantime also sending a letter to Casco to give them the heads up that these are the things we're going to be discussing
in to R&J this is what we're discussing and want someone present on we'd like to have somebody present on the six we can resolve this and we can reach out and to reach out to our engineer to have him present on the 6th as well and um our
attorney second okay there's a motion and a second uh any U for additions or deletions um we have somebody raising a hand out there that has been raising but we can't do that
yes CH we in the middle of a motion oh yeah that's right there's a motion in a second on the floor again have second we have to wait for discussion no well discussion from the board regarding the vote on the motion does it have to do with our you know what I'll I'll call you as soon as we
get done with this smot how's that you can stand right there you know all right so I have a motion on the floor in a second to uh revisit 314 Plymouth Street with the parties involved Casco R&J 314
318 three should we add the 38 because we need R&J yes that is R&J uh to meet as uh as the uh request was given by attorney Robert
K I'll ask for a Voice vote look out of descend Rick yes Tom yes myself yes uh yes but I think 314 is um Casco yes okay 318 is R&J yeah so we need both of those
in that that's all I was thinking because trying to say so just in yes passes unanimously Chris yes your name and address pleas 129 circuit Street U I follow this seems like almost
two years now year and a half since this first came around it was like stand worm only the first time with Starbucks uh and then all the drainage issues with the Self Storage this get to a point if castco keeps building that they you mentioned
that you know get to a point they could sue again with Johnny CR could they buy bypass any of the concerns of all the stuff that's been called for and force anything through like if they just keep building could they also sudden they sue and say hardship and now we've got this building
built and bypass a lot of concerns of drainage and access I I honestly in my experience they're proceeding at their own Peril if they vote too far exactly I disagree with that they could put up a
building spend the money for putting up the building not get an occupancy permit and that seems like a complete waste of an awful lot of money and who would do that you know and it is enforceable I mean I've done it go to court you get a court order you get the sheriff down
there and you shut him down but they couldn't Sue kind of how they came back for the driveth through no no and try to get things yeah they and force it through very unlikely you can suit for anything whether be successful
it's a multi-million dollar company that would be looking at us like you let us go forward with it it is possible that's why we're supposed to act in the best interest of the town they weren't going to do it without the drive-thru when the drivethru is not happen without that act without that easement so that's all there is to me I can't see them I think
they're a little bit smarter than to Fest the lot into this and not have that and I would appreciate too if uh something is determined date certain with with uh your agreement if you'd let the board know that at least at least before the our next meeting on the 6 so
we at least have something Concrete in our hand okay at least at least this is done you know I'd appreciate it yes your name and address please charl how 42 second I was just wondering do we have a rescheduled date for Walmart informal
discussion about their the facility that's March 6th yeah that's what they asked for right I I I do have that correct thank you very much good night have a good night yes March 6th do we know if the plans are to put it I don't know if you know any of their plans but
absolutely nothing about it haven't seen a site plan it was just a uh a pick your brain as a board pick pick the brain what what do you guys think you you know can I put into effect that picking your brain is weow back and we can't have a
gas station out on that grass area they out there yeah we don't know if it's either going to be out back if it's going to be on the side it's going to be on the front be very disturbed if they try to put it out back it was very disturbed when they wanted to come 40 ft back towards our house um so I don't
want to go through more battles with them with stuff and if they want to put it out front put it out front you can't put it up back we have Cruise Knight what they going do well it's funny cuz in that point view I don't see any chance of them wanting to put it up no it wouldn't make any sense to put it you know in their
site plan letter they're not actually allowed to have any flea markets or anything like that just saying it's not exactly well no but I'm just saying I I I read their decision letter today to to look for different things well they were
there's a lot involved yeah okay I just I don't want to go down that Avenue of fighting again and having my own little plans out and all that when I had a fight when they wanted to come 40 ft closer to my home yeah so I'm not doing it again is all I'm saying I fight
enough battles and in my backyard doesn't need to be a gas tank with honestly I I've never seen anybody want to put one behind their building if they want to put a that flight coming back there to reach his own because if it's going out front then where's that flight going to come in when we need it for the
local area yes so I mean there's a lot that goes into that just want to keep the minds open on that they flights but sometimes the parking lot's too full and they go to that yeah yeah that is not happen I've been since 1997 I've seen
them land on the grassy n there too really really they just released those just to bring to point about this they also haven't stuck up to the plans that they were supposed to do back in 1997 when they were supposed to maintain
between the fences they were supposed to put the fence up on the top level they put it on the bottom level I watched people piss off the side of the building I complained about it they put the fence up on the top level they said they were going to maintain in between they never did it is overgrown it looks like held
the fence has fallen I've spoken to them they don't want to fix it they patch it there's a hole you can see right into where my kids swim in the swimming pool it's just I've had my own battles with them I own some property on the other side and they kept everybody kept throwing their trash over behind the
fence and the stone wall they weren't too good about getting out there to clean it up I have a problem with the outside special permit you know where they sld the oh yeah yeah supposed to be byet permit and they just
section off a half of the parcking lot you know you to put the soil and the fertilizer and the blah blah blah blah you've seen it out there and then they've also years in the past tried it on the other side you know like so and to bring up just to bring up
another point about L and this whole thing is one once they put up that M to bring themselves up to top that um raised up their side so we have all the dra coming from all the neighborhood right down into the back of my flows
right into the back both sides it's just it's just ridiculous it just comes down wherever the mount started over where because it's only a partial fence back there so if you're looking from behind the building it's just from you know me
myone and from there on the wall the mount is so high that the water drainage just drains right down the edge of it and I actually had the attorney for WN not come in her high heels to come and look at it and I had an attorney with me to go down there and take a look at it
along with Robin um another um partner um and they um they didn't even acknowledge that the drainage that was going to come into the back of the yard and it is astronomical that there is a puddle out there so
there were a lot of things that were not taken care of right and I I I I just three and that's just from our back lot as we said it is like on the discussion stage there's no application there's no Hearing in front of us it's I think yes
nothing not like I said not even a site plan not even a sketch of hey what do you think about where it's all guess work at this want Comm at the ground floor here and be aware of all that's going on good we'll see you the sixth we'll see you the six I'm sure what they
they're just feeling feeling this out to what all right I don't want to do back thank you very much have a good night you too okay our next thing is the uh sorry I didn't happen tonight thanks the meeting
minutes of January 16th 2025 uh anybody have any changes deletions corrections I I myself did not see anything I haven't really read it can we push this off to March 6th
actually it's not really that hold on um I it is going to make me wonder what is the date on anold WEA the date what on the unold we profit site plan do we remember what date we pushed
that off to it should be a 30day extension 27225 to 3625 so it's the next meeting we'll have to extend it thank you okay so we have next meeting we'll have to do
another extension for anold where unless we want to do it right now to make sure that um we don't forget we don't have request from the don't we well no but we we can still do it huh we can still do Ste it on our own without a request they
have to agree um so my only thought process we're GNA we're going to be here but me you know what Danielle can you please put um anold wear a site plan extension or status on the next meeting for March 2 what what's the address of
that again thank you three I said thank you yeah oh yeah no I wasn't done yeah I wasn't done joking all right still from you Lord this is from
the files over here grey consultant that going there too y that was from the files over here see how I steal things um so all right so Danielle please put Arnold we site plan
2444 for MTH 73 lot 7A CL Street on for either a motion or an extension on MCH six thank you are we good up until that date though L up until the March 16 extended to Mar yeah see what I mean so we have
to do it that night that's what saying good enough I don't think there's anything all right what else do we have other business our next schedule meeting is March 6 2025 list anything else you like to discuss are we going to I I'm okay with
these minutes if you want to I just read them really quick let's do that I looked them I'll make a motion to approve the minute meeting minutes for Thursday January 16th 2025 as written do I have a motion do I have a second a motion and a second to approve the minutes of January
16 2025 all those in favor say I I unanimous how about a motion to adjourn uh moved in a second second uh all those in favor say I I thank you very much
very motion the meeting's ad jour [Music]