[Music] well seeing that it's uh 7:00 we'll uh open up the uh meeting uh at 7:00 p.m. in the
selectman's meeting room for the town Halifax planning board uh for Thursday February 6 2025 7:00 uh at the Town Hall located at 499 Plymouth Street in Halifax
Mass uh the planning board meeting is being recorded by area 58 and can be viewed on uh YouTube uh we have the uh agenda here in front of us do I have a motion to accept the agenda as presented so moved and do I have a
second second all those in favor say I I no and one opposed okay uh anybody have uh any objections to doing the uh discussion first uh for the uh for the AL property
at 340 Plymouth Street and then we can move one or the other Roger that yes sure yes yes sure ask the applicants that are here that might expect to be going first since it's listed that way
uh they could have meeting someplace else I see a look on their face well I do know that uh the uh Z1 Pon Street asked for an extension so they will not be here tonight and I believe uh you know if we look it up I believe they
good to the 28th and they want to post uh pone it to the 20th so I I think uh I think we're still good as far as they go y extension to 22825 is it all
signed All right so we can definitely get them in before the next meeting should we make an issue to continue it yes okay I'm going to motion to continue PS pr- 24-2 and PB SP
24-2 to the February 20th 2025 meeting at 7 p.m. do I have a second second I have a motion a second all those in favor of uh continuing uh the Z1 ponet Street uh
please say I I all unanimous all right uh well let's move into the discussion on the 340 pum Street then um Mr aler okay uh so um your name and address please sir uh my
name is Tom aler 340 street so I sent a uh an email to all of you uh regarding the Starbucks AutoZone property and according to uh a planning board meeting that we had one year one month
ago from today uh your town engineer Pat Brennan stated that there shouldn't be any construction uh being built uh either for the the storage facility that was proposed
and for Starbucks and Auto Zone until the easement on 340 P Street was installed and we're just wondering why why the construction is taking place at Starbucks in Auto Zone and there's no uh
easement at 34 P Street okay Mr El did uh did the building inspector uh Ed respond to your your inquiry you said that um your um the the the
document that you filed with the uh registry of deeds did not include uh this easement as a requirement so he's moving forward with his building permit so I'm requesting that the construction at Starbucks be
stopped until the easement at 34 P Street is installed have you worked out the arrangements I'm sorry can no go right ahead if you I was looking for that has to do with PEX running their pipe across the property right and picking up your
water in the ditch at the same time have you has have those details been worked out I guess as what I'm trying to ask we have we have a proposed uh easement okay but we're waiting for is a time commitment from Mr
PC as to when he's going to do it okay so I have had some conversations with Mr pep uh that um he doesn't intend to do it and then most recently I have had a conversation with Mr PC stating that he
intends to do it um and that's where we stand right now we don't have a firm date as to when he's going to do it and uh that's who we are as I recall and correct me if I'm wrong I'm
trying to do this by memory and it's been a while there's actually two pipes going across the back of the property do I have that straight my head there's going to be two pipes that go along the back of the 340 Plumber Street plus there's going to be some uh Stone
retainage that's going to be installed along um 314 and 340 okay the I.E the ditch kind of thing is that no right at the uh at the property
line of 314 and 340 uh there'll be some stone retainage that will be put in place to prevent water from flowing from 314 into 340 and then at the end of that retainage there will be the two pipes that will be
underground that will flow into the country club into the yeah into the pond what up there okay okay I just trying to remember how it went Mr Brennan stated that that has to be put in place because it will damage our property further by
having more water coming from um Starbucks okay so when you say you had a conversation with him where he had mentioned that he wasn't planning on doing it yes what does that mean well he didn't
he wasn't putting in the uh he wasn't putting in the storage so he didn't plan on doing the easement um and that was prior to any construction going on up at Starbucks but most recently there's been construction going on up at Starbucks so
they're moving forward with that right but there's no progress right now on that um that easement at40 okay is Starbucks I'm it's CCO I'm trying not to
identify the buildings there is their pipe actually going across your property I'm I'm trying to put that they do have um a pipe that's going into the ditch on 314 that flows right into 340 okay I I'm
just trying to but as Mr Brennan said um that in order for either one of those projects to happen Co Casco Costco CCO yeah CCO and PEX storage facility if
either one of those go in this easement has to be put in place 100 % yeah right cuz I I believe uh uh Mr Bailey sent me copies of the uh of your letter in his letter you know where uh he he explained
that uh as you stated you you were under the impression that it had this he quoted you is the system needs to be up and running prior to the system for the property uh but getting in but and before going into service and he
explained in his next letter I do not have the grounds to revoke the the permit based on Mr Brennan's commentary the certificate of action issued and filed with the registry uh from the planning board that must be used as a guide in these manners since the
applicant has satisfied the requirements of of recording an an easement with the Plymouth County Registry of Deeds they have satisfied the planning boards and therefore the zoning requirements within their site plan review uh the drainage easement
retention Bas the rest of the components required to make a fun functioning drainage assembly will need to be installed reviewed and approved prior to the applicant being able to open and occupy their space as a condition of
their occupancy permit meaning that if they do not build the site as proposed to the planning wood they will not be allowed to open and he also sent you a copy of what it says in the uh that is recorded
at the registry of deeds down there where uh uh accessing such a property this a common driveway utility area depicted on the plan uh dated 813 20124 and such easements include with our limitation the right to enter exist
maintain repair and reconstruct uh I have two and they and they use the exact same terminology uh you know not prior to construction but prior to Service as he he explained that in in in
his letters to you those are the words he used those are the words he used but that's not the words that Pat Brennan used in the video that's on uh YouTube right the other the other point I want
to mention here is given that your engineer Pat Brennan required this correct in his estimation his opinion his professional opinion that's what you guys use it wasn't it wasn't in those
requirements and I don't know why it was not in those requirements it should have been in those requirements because once that building is constructed and once the black top is put down all that water is going to be running whether it's in
use or it's not in use it's going to cause damage to 3 40 from the street well I can show you also that uh Mr Brennan is in the same agreement with with the building inspector the enforcement officer that there the
buildings will will not be issued an occupancy permit until everything as specified you know with the easement restrictions and the drainage and is is complete and signed off was the terminology he used so so according to
the board here you will not give Starbucks CCO a building occupancy permit until the easement on 340 pouth street is satisfied 100% can I yes
100% okay they have to satisfy the conditions that's right and get get a sign off from the review engineer before the building inspector and you know that comes to us and the building inspector so if that isn't done he can't let them occupy I know where you're going if
they've got all this stuff done and they still haven't got the easement where's that water going I I I appreciate the easements are that are listed on that requirement are only the easements pertaining to the access road the access road and and the parking and and that
stuff there that's that that was an oversight um the I think our attorney ended up drafting that am I right with that well I know it also stated that uh the recording at the registry of deeds would be uh determined and and worded by
the Town Council of Halifax and and that's is what was submitted and and recorded at uh the registry of deeds so uh it's it's all in writing that there will be no occupancy uh of either building until it
meets the requirements of the easements can I see those documents please he said he sent them to you did you get copies of them I got copies of of that of that there uh that document
but that doesn't satisfy my needs of 340 from the street that document there satisfies the easements that Mr pek is granting to Casco not that this answers you directly but
whether it was in the in the in the recording documents or not it's on the plan and that's what the review engineer has to go by and if that doesn't get accomplished in that way he's not signing off on it and and the building ofal you can't give them an occupancy
per it how how close are you to getting enement do you have any sense of how that's going I mean we're very close but I want I want the easma installed prior to the construction of
uh CCO yeah I I understand so it looks like they're in process of getting it all done over there I was having to drive by I saw the pipe out there and I think are they 18-in pipes is that what was going to run out there cuz I saw the concrete pipe out the green pipes or the
concrete ones the concrete ones no I don't know if that's part of their construction because they have some piping on on that uh those plans yeah but those those 18s definitely have to be running from the detention P at least in my opinion have to be running from the detention P to the ultimate source
to the ultimate repository which is on the country club property um I I I don't want to dismiss your concerns I I think maybe we're a little premature um they haven't gotten that far yet certainly before they pay they
want to get that in there to your point earlier cuz all that runoffs got to go someplace so we want it to be able to collect so okay everything's good the only other question I have is this let's say that um they have everything paved
and but they still haven't done the easement yet what's the next step for minut no I understand where you're going with that uh if it suddenly impacts your property then then we got bigger issues here and that's something we'd probably have to
bounce off a council cuz you know that would be hard for to make that determination so I have a commitment from the board again that there'll be no occupancy of that property until our is satisfied I I don't want to assert the
Chairman's position here what happens again is that our review engineer we would have our review engineer go out to see if all the terms of the plan not necessarily the document but the plan the drive was satisfied is is the
reporting from the part of the plan the ultimate end of the detention area I haven't got the plan total in front of me but that has to discharge and I believe that that's the way it was presented and drawn up with the
discharge on the uh Country Club property regardless of whether the storage is going there or not it still has to end up there okay but 340 F Street isn't on this plan no I understand I don't know do we have it is it on a subsequent page I can't
remember uh did they run the lines down to the rest of the way before the occupancy permit is granted does the planning board have any say on anything or is that just as far as what well because we keep saying we you know he
he's he's asking for commitment from us that until this is done right and when we all go yep we got you and it's date stamped it's on YouTube it's in the minutes and all that stuff and then six months go by and the building put it whatever no I get it I'm just saying
let's talk about a hypothetical worst case scenario because I think that that's why they're here cuz they're trying to prevent worst case scenario so then for whatever happens that doesn't go according to plan like what was supposed to go in just happened to be a mishap of not getting in the legal documentation and also why they're here
mistakes happen so 6 months from now everybody's ready to rock and roll y those requirements are not satisfied we committed to that 100% cuz careful you just right then what happen like is there something where we need to sign off on
it or is that just the building inspector and if he decides to sign off on it then well sorry that we commit the board committed to you in February but it is now August and I don't really give a sh I don't care we can't do anything then we can't do anything what is the that's what I'm I think I would be
actually Tom you have more experience with that yeah if you wouldn't mind is that a fair question that's a fair question y yeah what happens is we would commission our review engineer based on their deposit in our review account to go out and confirm to us that the whole
project was completed as per presented MH we just basically acknowledge that it's it's the building inspector's responsibility to issue occupancy or not issue occupancy we don't actually get to do that particular thing we we get to
acknowledge that to the building official that we've been informed that of conditions have been met and he has presented to the building official as well okay and so again just and I'm sure everything's going to go according to the plan right I would like you would like to think in 2025 well I just want
to make sure that that 340 plumber Street's easement is on the plan so when the building inspector goes out he's inspecting for 340 from street so so now again if you don't mind me asking because I just want to finish this this thought if let's say in a rare
occasion that it doesn't go according to plan and somebody signs off on it before they were supposed to or before it was completed what is the action for these people because I'm going to go ahead and say I don't care if you're independently
wealthy or not you're not Starbucks wealthy and so it is go ahead and sue us pal because I'll just wrap you up in small CL I'll wrap you up in court until you basically till your grand kids have lawsuits and so I think that if we are
at this stage right now it is our respons Poss ability to protect them at all cost before it gets to the point of them versus starbu or Casco right I want to throw any specific see see what I mean like I know that probably seems a little dramatic but I think that that's
for the residents I appreciate exactly where they're coming from yeah uh unfortunately we we're kind of in the middle of all of this yeah um we can certainly direct the building official to be aware and that we have concerns
about when an occupany is going to be delivered uh and you know maybe want to be notified as to the progress that kind of thing but It ultimately it's the building official who decides we everything or haven't accomplished
everything if you think about it uh we can protest but without an occupancy permit which actually we we keep saying the building inspect but it's also Pat Brennan said he he needs to sign off on it also the engineer and he said and so there's two people so
bottom line would it be behoove Casco to sit on two gigantic buildings that they can't use and occupy until they meet the requirements of no I couldn't agree with you that with that I 100% agree with you what I'm saying what if it gets signed
off on before that stuff is done well it can't because he has to rely on the engineer signing off and us saying that we the plan's been satisfied by our review engineer I mean that's a condition that has it's a condition it has and it's at the
registry of deeds that it has to happen will that be done at a planning board meeting we we would get the report at a planning board meeting and the planning board would acknowledge that the plan was construct excuse me the site was constructed as
per plan so prior to the planning board approving that I would be able to come here and and discuss it you can come here at any time well no but before it gets approved by the planning board yeah no no no approved by the building
inspector who would who would be issuing the occupancy permit or not issuing the OCC the review engineer first yes yes he has to sign off on it and the system only works if it's discharging where it was proposed to discharge so there's no way Pat's going to sign off on it if it
isn't complete yeah I would trust that um I have a question for you yes do you have a proposed easement or a signed agreed upon easement a proposed okay so
it's not sign it's in paper form okay but we're wait we're waiting we're holding on signing it until we get a commitment from Mr PEC does it State anything about um which properties um the pipe starts at and things of that
nature okay what was the date of the proposed easement I don't know um was it before or after September 27th 2023 um oh after okay was it after January of
2024 January 2024 that was last year so it was after that yes okay and it's not recorded and it's not signed right okay and um what does it state does it State putting pipes in from 314 and and hold
on I I would like to ask what the actual numbers of these said properties are because it's not 314 Plymouth Street anymore since they've been subdivided and it's recorded at the registry of deeds so what are the actual numbers of
the property I don't think they've actually done that the assessors assigned the numbers and probably need to contact them to assign numbers tried I tried to get it through the secretary of the planning board um I have a email that went out asking for what what
numbers for these Lots um so that we could properly discuss them because it's confusing with the 314 that encompasses the whole project and I would carry that back to the zero mon ponet Street what's the number of that property we need to not call it some zero mon ponset Street
what is the number well someone needs to ask to have a number assigned to it the typically they don't do it until there's a permit or something's about to happen I mean everything gets assigned zero zero until there's something else going on with it right but they can be asked
and they can assign a number temporarily and and they they do it for 911 purposes so that that's really why the numbers get assigned early well these numbers should be assigned because we have two lots we have one with a storage facility and we have one with AutoZone so the
drainage easement would have pipes going under the site work that is being done right now at the Casco property correct I don't think they I don't know what they're doing there was a you had a
a a diagram up there of the CCO property yeah the first retention Pond is on the Casco property so detention retention what did I say detention detention it's it's this drainage that's going into a
ditch on 314 mhm that's the the field that's behind um what would have been the storage facility the bank or the other auto place and so there's a ditch there and then that ditch will lead into the easement of the
two pipes that go over to the golf course okay so this drainage work this is proposed it is not signed so that but there is isn't any
pipes that are coming over from the Casco property into the drainage it would just be this there their um their drainage from their drainage Pond will drain into the
ditch on 314 that will flow into 340 right and that is what's recorded at the registry of deeds cuz they make specific reference to map 63 lot and 6c but that's just on the town's Maps
that's the the plot so the grant of the common driveway and utility easement R&J LLC a Massachusetts limited liability company for consideration of $1 hereby recognized with an address of 45 Thompson Street Halifax
Massachusetts Plymouth County sorry Massachusetts granter owners of the property and H fact referred to as assessors map 63 lot 6 and 6c hereby grants a Perpetual easement to leaders company it accessor assign or transfery
of property it is acquiring from Grant or lot six including LR Halifax LLC assessing such property to the so common driveway and utility area depicted on the plan attached here to and made a part of I'm sorry part here of prepared
for RJ LLC by silver engineering Association PC dated 813 2024 and such easement includes without limitation the right to enter exist maintain repair and reconstruct if necessary such common driveway and maintain any and all
utilities located within the easement such easement does not permit grantee to obstructor construction and and obstruction to the easement um for granted source of the title this is deed referencing so there's no other I don't see anything here about a drainage
easement I see here a common driveway utility easement for um overhead wires and such of that I don't see anything am I incorrect did you hear me mention anything about your drainage easement on this is this the proposed easement that
you're all talking about no I I I don't believe that I don't well I believe in my Layman's opinion I would think that CCO would need an easement from Mr P to
go from their property onto his property and then um Mr peek would need this new easement to go from0 onto the golf course the drainage easement but we haven't talked about a drainage ement being recorded we just talked about a
common driveway being recorded we didn't talk anything about that so in this document here which um doesn't include all of the condition that were spoken of during that meeting um states that no
building permit shall be issued until valid easements for the following are recorded one of them is an easement to allow access so we have that the second one is a drainage easement as set forth and the plan submitted by the applicant dated September 27 2023 well that isn't
even a current date of a proposed easement never mind having it recorded easement to allow all Park parking and roadways to be constructed as set forth in the plan submitted by the applicant dated September 2723 um I don't see that either so those
three things we have one out of the three that are actually recorded at the registry of deeds I'm going to go further to State something else there's only two planning board signatures on this document and I would State I would ask a question here what constitutes a
quorum of the planning board of five member planning board what is what is the actual Quorum number well can I can I get that answer the question is I asked you a question BR what is the answer to that question the question is when you said there's
only two signatures on that that is not required under our under our bylaws to have a quarum signature on it what does require according to our bylaws that that is accepted by one person the chair and so the two of us were on on what is
the Quorum of this planning board is it two can we have a meeting a public meeting with two people can we yes or no yes or no a a quorum exists if there's uh three out of five uh me thank
you very much sir this is not signed by three members and therefore I would consider itain that not valid hold on what are we doing about a Dua thing right now about a covenant release how many signatures jump all over the place stay that's just an acknowledgment of of
receiving reing the record and as it says why is there a building permit when there is no ease meant for drainage it says it right here it says you read it you read it out loud Amy you it said right here yes you did the assesses map
63 Lots B lot 6 lot 6 C in the property hereby grants a Perpetual easement in parentheses the easement Drive which it you just made that up it doesn't say common driveway right there on the
top I'm telling about what is registered at the registry of deeds this is what was drawn that this right here so that the camera can see it this right here is what it is common driveway in utility it does not State anything about a drainage
nothing period end of story look it up at the registry of deeds here it is the site plan that was the site plan that was approved by the board uh please zoom in on this as well excuse me for talking while you're interrupting I didn't interrupt you there's two things that
are not checked off folks about the Casco property and the storage property this is definitely a problem since these people who are sitting here talking to us about the easement will have damage to their property which is exactly why
we're here [Applause] I rest my case and you guys can say whatever you want and you know you're wrong and sleep with that we have to we're here for the drama that's why we're here I'm here to protect the
people are you cuz you're not even you're you're making a fudge lie about this this is not even you can't it's not fair to say that it's true bottom line there's the site plan that's the site plan we approved and it vote I'm sorry and it
was voted and it was that site plan includes drainage through the property it includes it it's recorded at the registry of deeds you can try to break it down however you want but that's what uh Co Casco has to
comply with has to 100% how are they complying with a proposed easement that's not recorded yet that's one of the of the check marks to get a building they can't comply they can't occupy fingle perfect and and like we just
stated so this is this right here states that a permit shouldn't be out period there is no drainage easement at the registry of deeds we've already heard that from the applicant that is how it is that's period so there should be no
building permit so even if the two signatures of by the way Mr chair um last year Tom milus and vice chair last year Robert gain are currently right here there that's the only two signatures on this document and there is an actual
problem with it because two of those things are not recorded at the registry deeds and you're positive that the other one isn't recorded you're positive you went onto the registry site and check to see if there wasn't in our applicant here has stated it that it's propos no I
understand their applicant your suggestion there's two easements that aren't recorded know that for a fact I have not checked to see if the parking one's there but even that's something that we need to do and make sure of because they need to access their property through
that other property and that common driveway hasn't been constructed yet yeah so how are they getting on to the property over their own property but that's not on the site plan currently a for construction that 16710 that we had
to let go of that they were using a common dri to enter Starbucks and that common driveway is not constructed do you recall that I mean I I recall one of the conversations involving that topic but it' be tough to recall the exact
details but of course but you the whole site plan has not been completed the buildings onen in the drainage isn't in the utilities haven't moved the access road hasn't been installed none of it's been it's in the process so to say that it needs to be
done listen the conversation about what you were just asking me was I remember we were having a conversation about that common driveway and then being able to access this from a shared point because that was part of the thing in our our bylaws right that you can't access your property through another person's
property right that that was a conversation that I do remember having but if we Circle all the way back to the easement what do we need to do to get this done we need to have the proposed easement agreed upon by the um owner
former owner of the lot and the um Property Owners at 340 Plymouth Street and this building permit should not be out yet until that's done it states it straight up right on the document that I just had that is put away very
quickly they're not referring to any drain jues they're just talking about the what I'm concerned about is that the building inspector is going to go out here look at the this plan 340 plumbus Street's not on this plan they've
complied with this plan supposedly when it's all said and done and 340 Columbus Street isn't on here he signs off on it and the engineer signs off on it that's what I'm concerned about is Mr Elliot pointed out that's that's the risk
because it's not on this plan y exactly it's a good point there's no there's no way to argue against that if if that happens again a multi-million dollar company's going to leave two empty buildings there uh and not comply
with the requirements of the billion there you go no no I don't think you're going about to understand to say a multi-billion dollar company did not become a multi-billion Dollar by just saying ah we'll just do things out of the kindness of our heart a multi-billion dollar company is going to
look at it and go oops they forgot we can take advantage so is is the thing that bothers me here is what you just said which was if that happens that's what we're trying to prevent is the well if that even
happened they are a multi-billion dollar company to make sure that happens if we don't do our job so I think that that's where we're getting here so if that is the case where 340 is not on this plan or the site plans are not in writing I'm sorry the easements are not in writing
to protect the resident then what do what do we do because I'm having a I'm feeling like we're the last Alamo here we're the last line of defense can I offer something certainly what we can do is we can ask the building inspector to review his process for issuing the
permit I I don't know if 30 days have gone by I believe 30 days have gone by since the permit was issued I don't know what the date of the permit is that's the appeal period it's right here mhm where is it the building price my I have it right here
still not giv correctly so if we if it's within 30 days this board can in fact appeal to the zoning board of appeals to roke the permit in lie of that we can in fact communicate with the building inspector enforcement officer to review the
process and say that we don't believe the conditions have been met for the issuance of a permit and are asking him to review it and or revoke it and to his point how do we get 340 in writing well he's going to have to work
that out with um but wasn't that supposed to be done yeah in the first place so if I'm sorry if if it's me if I'm him no I I don't have it in and you guys and and we if I'm him and I came to us and we said yeah yeah good we're going to include all this and then we
don't whether it's our account or not then can I see it it's not on him to make sure it gets fixed it's on us make sure it gets fixed and that's why we have a review engineer who you know go out and say this was done according to the plan presented to him or it wasn't
presented to him but I think that the disconnect here is is that on YouTube and on video on recorded video there's one thing and then in writing registered with the registry of deeds is another thing and everybody signing off on stuff based off the thing that's in wrting not
what was agreed upon in video am I hearing you correctly okay so we can Circle the wagon is all we want here I understand I thought the easement and the Overflow drainage there was a plan on that and in the big packets of plans
I would seeing a plan I I I don't see it on this but because everybody because to your point any review engineer or or our engineer or or the building inspector is not going to go before I sign on off on this let me go back 3 years to the
YouTube video they're going to go where's the piece of paper that we follow well according to this which is missing information that it should have but according to this piece of paper everything's satisfied now I can sign off even if because even if the planning board reaches out to them and says
please make sure it was done correctly they're going to go purr this piece of paper this was done correctly where these people are here proactively to say but that piece of paper doesn't line up with that freaking camera and what did Mr pek say to you the other day you made
mention of that you had you had a conversation with him it's it's all verbal and that's where that's where it is but he can't put anything across your property without you giving him an ease building bottom line I mean you can
FL my property but no I understand that part what I was getting at in terms of signing off on a plan at the end if it isn't constructed that drainage isn't going anywhere
sorry so can't sign off on it I mean this the only thing this this board in my opinion can do is ask the building inspector to review his process for issuing the permit and were all the conditions that was set out adhere to
prior to the issuance of a building permit but the conditions that we laid out aren't in that P piece of paper I I understand so that's a problem that's a problem so how do we fix that piece of paper to line up with the conditions of can I make one point there is one thing
that is not one of the conditions that is on that paper is not met and that's the easement for the drainage That was supposed to be done before the building permit was given so already right there even though all of the checklist isn't
on that document that one is there and that one's not done and therefore the building permit in my opinion should not be and and again we can't revoke a permit but the building inspector can we should be able
to put in writing that the easement hasn't for drainage has not been there and that he needs to revoke it because it's not done correctly this is what I was saying earlier I said we can send a communication to the building inspector SL Stony enforcement officer that we don't believe the conditions have been
met based on blah blah blah and we think that this needs to be reviewed Andor revoked yeah yeah I mean that's what we can do I think that's what we have to do yeah I'm fine with that now does that solve so if we do that then they're going to have to do
something to get all the things in place to get a and would that satisfy as long as 340 plumbus streets gets added to those requirements and by the way so this now circles back to what we have on record end in the minutes I would hope
that after this was revoked and not it's not being added afterwards because we feel like adding it afterwards it would be an addition or an amendment because it wasn't originally added we would have to ask them to come back for an amendment to the site plan no it's already on the
document it's on the document it states the eement but you were talking about the easement no 340 at 34 340 is not on but if the drainage easement is referring to 340 it wasn't just fully written but it is that is what it's I thought it was I want to specifically
bullet 340 that's what I'm getting at if we're going to amend it we need to have them come back and do a modification according to this and they're going have to do it anywhere they're not going to get the uh building permit for 314 Plymouth Street Lot 63
6-0 was issue date was uh December 9th 2024 why is it still 314 Plymouth Street is that the new Assessor's um number for that lot when it was 314 prior cuzz I thought we had to um assign a number hold on hold on let's say on tax we're
starting to get to a I'm sorry I'm so sorry I'm mean to interrupt you I was ruding we're almost there though but it's just true the building permit is supposed to have the correct number on it we just discussed that earlier have lot and plot Number permit number nc2
24-2 says right here lot 63-60 applicant Steven DS yeah so so as long as so we have to send a letter and communication saying
these weren't done right and the way that this is filed now is not correct because it's missing a bullet point specifically referring to 340 but then also to your point I mean they got to do that anyways so why wouldn't we do that why would we skip
this part like why right just to say well we'll let them construct it and then they can't get in I get that and that's a that's a great extra layer of Defense that's that extra sa but let's get it right now let's get it right right now and it doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal I mean if they have
to do it anyways let's at least get it in writing so everybody can go to bed at night sleeping and not worrying about that we should we should get in touch with them and tell them to ask to get on the agenda yeah and for a site plan modification perfect cuz they're going to have to do it to do to get what they
want anyway so what I can't see any resistance why not put it in rting a stock requirment needs to be put out because of the fact that the current document doesn't have one thing at least on there that's done and they don't have the common driveway constructed so I
don't know how they're getting in and out of that so I don't know why they would be wanting to build the site plan do we even know that the storage facility is going to be built because well this is another reason we have them come in for a site plan modification okay so so an action plan so that we can
wrap this all up cuz there's a lot of things that I'm sure a lot of people are could could continue but this has to be transcribed to somebody to write a letter appropriately to the right person so what would the action plan B if you
were to do like a this is what has to like for the minutes for whether it's the secretary whoever else the chairman whoever else has to write the letter what is it a letter needs to be written for site plan modification to address the missing
drainage easement just missing yeah Miss yeah missing ye in reference to 340 in reference to 340 and my understanding is they're not going to go forward with the storage facility so we want some clarification about the access
rad that was Al 340 stre that was the whole I thought the whole thing was revolved around the roadway going in for safety coming out because the lights they couldn't take a left coming out right
I my understanding is and this is just third hand was that they've come to some kind of an agreement with the PCS that they're going to build the road but we need to get that finalized we need to get that squared away at the same time
and and that's why I'm suggesting U getting in touch with them for a modification so who's writing the letter and who's it going to um it's going to go to CCO okay um I mean no we need no to get the S modification hold on we need to do a stop work permit on this
right now and clarify what's happening with their entrance because that's going to affect the entire town not just the next door neighbor this needs a stop work permit now we can't do that we need to tell them that it's not following the site plan there's an easement that is
not agreed upon yet and that and that we need it to be a stop work perit and then that they need to modify due to the fact that they're not following the site plan who has that conversation is my question I'm still because I would walk out of here going somebody else is going to do that I mean I'll volunte we're all going
to do this I'll volunteer to do it if nobody else wants to do it all right but the but it needs to be this is a two-step process here yeah we need to notify the building inspector what we just discussed just a few minutes ago okay and ask him to take the appropriate
action in writing in writing y Andor then contact Casco okay and tell them we believe that they need to come in and have a site plan modification based on conditions that have changed on the law okay including drainage easements that are not in place MH Andor what is the
status of the construction of the access road now sounds like a pretty good action plan right so we can get all of that in writing and on on Town server yep boy that feels good to me at least for a place to start oh yeah right would
that satisfy satisfies us I like that thank you for walking me through that that was great all right uh would you like to make that in the form of a motion yeah whenever I just said second second motion to
aair all right do I have a second on a letter to be sent to the building inspector with the board's concerns and regarding requirements do I have a second second sorry should we make it a little bit
more um certain and the and and make sure that um every item is put in there because this isn't okay for the town of Halifax or anybody surrounding it I think if you were to say that your
motion was in regards to the bullet points that you just addressed that can be found in the minutes that that that's the so the building of the the common driveway the stat of the for 340 Street and also make note that in the current
document that's recorded at the registry deed that easan is there so that he is for sure knows that that is not completed and the building permit shouldn't be given what date is on that building permit b December 9th you just
said I just said that December 9th 2024 if it was within 30 days this board could have the authority to appeal to zoning board of appeals right the zoning board of appeals is but once 30 days is last okay so we send that letter which
we we seconded y we got to say so there's a motion and a second on the floor to send the uh submit the letter with with corrections yeah uh all those in favor say I'm going to ask for a Voice vote brenon OT yes uh Amy yes
myself yes Tom Yes Rick yes passes now question once that letter goes out what's the next action step from there well we're going to have to wait and see okay you know what the building
inspector does okay and then or keep up written communication with the building inspector after that goes out and and the board would also appreciate if you do hear any more information from Mr peek as regard to some time frame
writing or endorsements or or anything you could add please call and let the board know definitely will on the uh the easement and anything else awesome thank you sir thank you very
much I I also would make um a note that I think one of our procedures should be that all approval letters need to be approved by the board before they're signed I don't have anything to say on that I didn't mean to jump on that um does that need like a second or thing
or is that just a statement because I don't want to move on I would like I would like it to be part of our process um thank you I don't think that anything was left out of that letter intentionally I do think it was perhaps a mistake right so
I just want to be careful I'm not in any I wanted on record that I'm not implying right or insinuating but there also if something was missing I I do think it's our responsibility to catch it this is page nine on the plane that's right up in front of you I I was I really thought
I saw or recall seeing the pipe going behind the ales and connecting and and and Mr peek was sitting here uh uh saying how we can always use the water at the uh at the course at the course and and uh I almost recall there being
one but again there's there's nine pages and 80 C and D on each one so site plan the uh oh see that could be too it could be on yes which isn't being built and therefore yeah so that that qualifies
for for an amendment to the site I thought for sure I saw one so again it's not I don't think there was anything nefarious but it is our responsibility to address it and handle it yeah now that we're aware of all these new factors and whatnot right cuz it could be something as simple like you said as
an oversight where they were both the story uh warehouse and and CCO were together and putting together the drainage thing and then who who knew the storage facility was going my point to earlier was is that major corporations make
hundreds of millions of dollars on simple over sites yeah and it's the it's the people like that that pay the price for it good thank you all right moving right along let's let's go sorry to keep you guys rating now you know what you're up
against spr oh boy okay we're going to uh uh open up the uh hearing here on uh pspr 25-1 for 300 Plymouth Street the Urgent Care site plan review application uh somebody like to speak to
uh to this yeah sure U your name and address sir Vinnie I'm with Majestic construction um we've been uh we're going to be the general contractor for the build out for the uh kiss Urgent Care um we've applied for permit uh and
we just we need to present it in front of you guys before it moves on to uh Ed Bailey for approval you you have do you have a if you reviewed parking that's going to be the big thing I'm not sure
um if parking was um was no site plan all we're doing is doing an interior buildout it went from uh being a restaurant one point it's it's change of use and that's really up to the building official to
throw to us whether there's any any parking considerations or not I don't see where it would be any uh more congested than the Chinese restaurant was yeah but so they're they're uh currently split in that space the
landlords general contract split in the space and uh given uh uh Kia Central 3600 ft of it um and they're actually doing the landlord work doing the demising bringing the power U they did all the underground plumbing um and
we're just going in there to do the rest of the buildout I was driving by one day and I said if they're putting any kind of a medical facility in there they better put some glass on the front of that building or no one's going to walk in and the land's doing that right now and then I drove by the next day and the
plywood was up so so was thinking along the correct the only thing with with the parking as long as it was brought up but uh you know the employee parking would there be an ambulance service attached to the Urgent Care only on an as needed
basis I'm sorry only on an as needed basis so in the event somebody walks in and it turns into a more significant issue than we're prepared to deal with we would call the fire department oh so you don't have your because we have it
other Urgent Care uh businesses that like share an ambulance between three or four different urgent cares and and it would uh be parked there sometime right and and it was passed on and they had a problem in Pembroke specifically where
uh they were sharing the ambulance if I understand this correctly they were like sharing the ambulance service between three different places and if the ambulance wasn't necessary they were calling Pembroke fire department and penbroke fire department increased their
their number of calls astronomically so uh you know that was my question too is this going to be an extra burden on on the on the fire department uh as far as the number of calls or no we don't anticipate that we have three disting
locations and you know the need to call a fire department is atypical so most cases for that sort of event you would expect you know patient to go to the emergency so these are just episodic you know which people should have called 911
to begin with before com and walking in butre did we go through that when uh they're proposing it was STS they going to do a Urgent Care there right right and that was an issue with the ambulance I know the uh fire chief was
concerned with that you know especially he was from Pembrook and was aware of how it was working in Pembrook and it was uh we don't have an ambulance available you handle it you handle it and they were increasing the number of of uh
responses which would certainly put a drainage on a small town like Halifax I'm sure you can well imagine you you you mentioned 3600 ft² is that what I heard approximately approximately how does that relate to other facilities is that in the middle is it large
small so typically you know we're consuming anywhere from 2500 to 3,000 square ft and it's typically five exam rooms the exer room break room and and storage so we'll have extra space but
the profile is basically consistent with what we have you mentioned that hi you mentioned that they were subdividing one of the units to 3600 do you know how much the original space was how how large it was
no I'm not sure I think it's closer to 5,000 it's approximately five cuz based on what's left over looks looks to be about 15500 ft as yeah that there be on as you're facing the building on the left
side oh and I'm Everton weeks my wife and I run the business than me too do you have any um how many employees do you have on per shift so typically a provider of
radtech andic assistant depending on the volume may be a receptionist typically the radtech wears two hats and when they're not shooting x-rays they're taking providing the intake for for
registration but typically around four okay and how many um patients do you usually see per so it varies by location we anticipate on the high side for
Halifax in the 20s per day and we run a shift 8 in the morning to what I was going to ask Monday through Friday and Saturday and Sundays it's 9 to 4: are your other locations local I'm just curious uh
East Bridgewater St cool St was the first 2011 hon was 2015 bridgew was 2017 and what name did they go by or they all or they all different Care Central Care Central
Urgent Care I I think there's in need we haven't had any kind of medical facility since Compass was open in the other Plaza there that was a while ago I think we're actually when we look at our our our patient rers we're actually pulling
into bridgew folks from P hats now so that was kind of with this for us sort of looking at the area because it is underserved well yeah I mean we have the mobile home park where there's a lot of older people any special permits variances or
anything else that going to be required no no like no special equipment or anything like that they have room but um that's been approved by
the state yeah the state does all that yeah you don't have to lead line the walls anymore or anything actually we doing this oh do you I can remember lugging in 4 by8 sheets of lead line oh it's in the drywall now they put it right in the uh
lead line yeah it's in it yeah back in the day us to Glow it on yeah SL slap it on with the asbest pain I remember installing G door that must have weighed 600 lb
with the leadline glass and everything took no I'm sorry War Stories he's old do we know how many um parking spots are at 300 Plymouth Street how many are on your plan well
this is only an interior buildout so there's on our plan on our site plan yeah um uh this would have sign signicantly less employees than a Chinese restaurant yeah yeah so if what they're doing is
taking over I know change of use obviously we have to do our duil but the existing existing building existing square footage they should be all set for pack done it just like by four people just in the kitchen let alone behind the bar and on the floor
just go by but it's not retail retail actually that's one per 100 I is absurd I mean was there any outside lighting or anything out there on the back lot that you could see I thought you had it up there there's some lighting on the
building on I didn't see any no it's going it's going to be very important that you understand that there will be residents that will complain if your if your signage takes up more than 30% of your window okay so so where we're using the existing real estate beautiful
whatever sign if you decide to put anything on the window yeah you can use for the love of God just on each look look at Cap Cod Cafe pizza and go don't do that don't do that and I love the sign for keep C pizza and I love keep C
pizza but unless you want to come back here through this circuit that's special pering process if you want to do something on the glass other than frosting welcome to H you have to get perit anyway but you're only allowed 30% cover glass I don't see any indication
6% the length of the building I don't but that's the building aspect of this was literally two meetings worth of conversation so just trying to get you back remember I have two small boys so I'll probably
be in their office remember who had your back you know on thee if you have an x-ray machine on the face of this this is probably the easiest thing we'll ever get to to uh yeah to to look at but those are the ones you always have to watch out for cuz there's always
something lurking that you forgot to mention parking was the only thing that came to my mind everything else is internal U yeah and Rick had a good point if the building dimensions are not changing yeah you know any width or
length or anything so it's square footage wise yeah sometimes change of views can have some impact but I don't see it applying to this any kind of deliveries or anything being made there um no just normal surv yeah nothing that
would need an 18 wheeler though that' be coming right off a FedEx truck yeah not not a 53t tractor Trail or something a rear entrance it does it has a rear entrance and you'd be taking any ambulance um uh rides from the front I
would imagine yes okay so is there a handicap spot in the front right right out front of you right okay is there any need you think for any special um parking for an ambulance or anything like that just crossing boxes I mean checking boxes yeah thinking out loud
don't does any us have a right to park basically Park wherever they want though right like if it was a handicaps bar or you saying segmenting a space specifically so nobody like say hand space not even a handicap there's so if there's a bunch of cars parked out front
and the ambulance pulls in they're going to be unloading from the closest they can I'm just thinking can we say unloading they're only up loading S I I I did remember that but I just misspoke yeah they would just pull right
up out front and and how long are they and how long are they going to be there for really you know heard designated ambulance PK no no no any other questions or comments from
Members motion to approve the plan on the inside I mean is that is that what well it's not about the inside it's about um just citing the business I mean the inside we have nothing to say really
um as far as sign permits and all that like I said you just work with the building inspector permits anything you're seeing that needs attention cuz I don't see anything I mean straight forward so would it
be appropriate to say we uh make a motion to approve CPR 251 300 P Street Urgent Care site plan review application yeah I don't see a problem with with a
condition that the um site plan shows that or the property has a handicap spot out there for it how many handicap spots are in the parking lot do we cuz we don't have the the site
plan here for 300 pouth Street and I'm not saying I'm against this I'm just making sure that we're checking all the boxes because we don't really even see like they're not really marked that well shouldn't there be one in front of the phone place one in front of here one in front of the Guard Right Down the Line
yeah there's at least one in front of the Urgent Care Facility but I can't speak for they put some ball there's ballards in front right yes for the for the spot yeah yeah that's because somebody actually drove into one of those building when I asked if it was going to
be appropriate I was actually making the motion I didn't know that was mis that was Lost in Translation and then Amy did have a question on yeah I questioned it um just not not your motion I questioned about the I'm just thinking because on
the on the basis that it conforms with the proper number of handicaps spaces how's that yeah all right so I have a um motion on the floor in a second to approve the uh site plan for uh 300 Plymouth Street the
uh Urgent Care uh application pspr 25-1 uh I'm going to ask for a uh Voice vote Brendan uh yes one question did we include that I I just want to be clear we included the handicaps the CMR all
right AMS uh myself yes Tom yes and Rick yes unanimous unanimously approved we should have taken you first why people yeah that was a lot of fun
yeah okay thank you should they s an updated one with the handicap one great yeah the motion includes well we don't have any of the exterior stuff on that plan I kind of like to have like
the actual documents for the properties here so that we can have them yeah that really kind of makes sense bills all right where are we Bill what V uh we have this gentleman right here oh wait a
minute and a Jer sorry yesterday so I may not be on the agenda oh you're not that's why UNS business following this post I would have included you in a agenda I thought you were here maybe for S Autumn
Lane I was going to wait I appreciate you I did U read the email I'm sorry your name and address sir uh Bruce grindell uh one L Post Drive I'm here about s AUM Lane and your question sir um I had the engineer
um create a um current condition plan and I met with him to figure out how we could put a house on that plan he sketched it in and we talked and a couple of items came up and I just like
right had some questions and then you you got the response uh that you needed to discuss with the building inspector as far as zoning goes he came back with an email to you yeah some of the the abbreviations I don't know what yeah but he said it was a a buildable lot he said
and it's a buildable lot purposes however yeah um realistically it's uh I have the plan that you sketched out top of foundation comes to mind immediately see Foundation is the problem it's one of the problems
Conservancy he was unfamiliar with what the the requirements were it was you could build a house by special in Conservancy so on the contingency on my purchase and sale agreement is that can build a 2400 ft
ranch house with a pool and I think we've kind of known that this is going to be a challenge all along so um I was happy the ways it it kind of came out um you can see
here the this is this is the setback the 50ft setback so we're coming right up to the 50t setback there is a there is a a slope but it it kind of fits in nicely I thought it it would I I assume we would
have this um it's a walkout basement y so when we did all of this and he he we figured out where we would bring the um driveway into a garage that's attached here um and then he has walls to support
and to level out and and so forth so we got through all of this there are some pieces of this that I was concerned about but when he got to this point he said the foundation we had going in was 9
ft and then he said hold on I'm pretty sure there's a requirement for the the foundation to the road and he came back 2T above the crown of the road 2T above the crown of the road was it within 100 ft of the road or was within 100 ft okay
you know so we are within 100 ft being the 50 back so he said you could build an 18t basement I don't think I'm not sure if you could do that but I might have a bunker underneath my house that's a lot
of I got to tell you my front wall is 11t tall I had to get up so so um so we're we wind up being 9 ft below that requirement oh wow yeah so can you vary
that yes specifically in this because get hardship has to be presented by the land and if you have a lot that's this tough you can ask for a variance due to the Topography of the land to the Topography of the land because that's
the only thing you can get a varience theoretically Y and we don't do that the Z I appreciate you guys have helped me out a lot I really do appreciate everything you've been doing for me have you run this by conservation because that's going to be my thought process on this one this I wanted to get
things moving I'm I told him that I wasn't even until the lot was released I wasn't going to do anything but now I'm figuring I might as well just get some things started but I want to spend a lot of money before I know I'm going to be able to do something I don't I don't
think on that what's I don't think conservation's going be big issue on that buff yeah I mean they don't us the engineer said we're within the first 50 here we won't be able to do any it's a small backyard yeah yeah it's a tiny backyard so you're within the one oh so
you're you have to stay within this 50 ft okay so you're within the 100 so you don't need to say that you're within the 50 you're within the 100 no I'm no no I'm building in the 50 and this is the this is the 50 I cannot touch I have to
go to conservation bu behind the 50ft setb that's that yeah the you can do things with approval correct right I thought it was this I can't touch it all right cuz that's I did ask about taking trees down and he he thought that I'd be able to you know take down big trees
that may threaten the house pruning that kind of thing yeah I'm just concerned with the the pine trees that are there they're really big destroy the house P be sna so you I had one hit my house with $40,000 worth of
damage wow yeah the thing just came down put two holes in the walls and so my two bathrooms and my deck was destroyed D the bulkhead came down blew the door the basement open it what is a building envelope wait this is the
building that's where I could build a house but where would you put the pool where would I put the pool that's the I put the pool in the I put the pool in the bunker yeah it's an indoor pool it's an indoor it I put I put the pool in the
pns we're not really sold on it but it was just a way to back out of if you could if you say well you got to you know 10ft backyard there so you know you're all set so I wanted to so the pool I could get out of this I think just based on how this all Lays out but
so my concern I just wanted to and the engineer recommended could you just you know maybe get a sense of do you think the variance will will happen cuz and again we don't do that you'd have to speak with the well that's why I said the first in my email said the first
thing out was to check with the building inspector and he would say okay you have to go here have to go there or whatever but uh the variance itself would have to come from the zoning board of appeals but okay but if ever you had a reason to ask for a variance the Topography is a
good hardship the Topography is the hardship can I can I ask for a variance without a final at a stage like this could I have this drawn up and or do I have to have the final plan the The Architects got to put the house together that's the I
don't think so cuz all you're really looking for a variance of is top of foundation yeah so any foundation I put in there it's regardless of what or any house you put on top of the foundation I would run this by conservation too because you're within the 100 and they
um will have different order of conditions and such especially where it's Conservancy too huh yeah yeah the Conservancy is the other thing even the engineer wasn't familiar with but Conservancy really has nothing to do with conservation just to clear that but he's within the 100 no he's no you're right I'm just didn't want anybody to
confuse Conservancy with conservation because they're really two different things y so you probably want to know where your septic system was going to go and everything so that you could actually show the septic system is drawn in here the septic system is on the front I see it now I saw it before sorry so yeah he did he put all of this and
and we're not we may change this out we may not go with the he he put in the worst case with the the 80t ranch we may go with like 50 40 60 or something like that go go for the biggest and then yeah
that's this this is the worst case is what can anything be filled in well I would just go and present it concrete found I would present it as this without stating that you're willing to go back or if they're already going to be like
oh go back I like but um I would get I do you have in the purchase and sale that you're subject to receiving the permit yes yeah okay and actually we we're not even going after permits to release the property right
which is the this is just something going trying to get a feel for what you have to go through if just did you get the other letter about him pay offering to pay uh cash bond to release the property yeah yeah I saw that oh wow
cool that you might want to do that before I back down yes that well man the camera is right there I'm not very good at that do this no but I I I just don't we had something similar come up recently and
we kind of worked something out um but he don't let me speak for the board here I'm speaking for myself you'd have to come up with a a Bonafide quote Yeah of what to do the work and a time period period on that that that quote is good
for yeah and how long would it take to put that quote together cuz his his feeling was the reason he was going to do that was he wouldn't be able to complete the the the stuff until probably April yeah yeah that's that was
to hurry me along to get get going on right April May um but he's going to have to come up with a proposal of what he's going to do we're going to have to bounce it off our review guy to make sure it's okay yeah
so a quote on how what is needed to finish the road and then we'll have to have a peer review on it and then it would go to a bond I mean so all that over the next two months he could probably just finish the work get it approved and have you
sign off yeah if you wanted to go that route that mean that would be the best thing to there's not a lot left I mean and it was just that winter came and he wasn't going to be able to put the the new top down top coat down and there was a couple of other items he had to do
construction on it's not that long a street either so no it's not a not a big street he's he's all for it so he's ready to go so have him St getting that quote together and then coming in and we'll send it to Pier review or if he just wants to go ahead and do the work that's that's the thing I'm just
wondering he may just decide well we're getting you know time is passing it's it'll be the end of February before things get started and 2 months later you could have the whole thing done so well don't we have to decide what needs to be done in order to
re the inspection you we had an inspection done another inspection he's gotten that he's now going to do all that work and I came back with it needing a new top code and some other things he's going to do that work who did the inspection um that was Grady oh
okay so I mean that still has to be bounced off our review engineer send the work soend that us did that get I mean he sent that happened last December oh so it's time pass where where I so make sure that the work is
updated this is not me this is this is between you guys he can come in and talk to us yeah but but I just meant to like Quicken it if he said to the Builder the the like get your make sure that Gres has the
same plan on finishing into a plan Grady redid the inspection and just made a list confirmed the list and added to the list some additional things and he said he will take care of those and then I'm my assumption is greedy goes back out
and inspects and says it's all done yeah except that our guy has to do the same thing MH so the work list make sure it's up to date the work list you have the work you have it I know but it's from December of 2023 correct 20 it was
December of 2024 it just complet you guys you guys were the ones that said we had to do it yeah right right so we got him to do it and yes so now we can have it PR engineered we need to send it to to our engineer so yeah so we have to send it to the town's
engineer to make sure you you've had this since December well we need a revolving account from the owner of the street I sent a note about that who gets the money and how is that paid and that's so well we didn't know what we need to do
is get that review yeah send it to Pat and ask them how much to review it yes so that we know what we're dealing with for dollar the's name check with her cuz all of this is gone i' I've had emails back
and forth with her and Grady and all of this has been going on for a mon a month no just trying to We're just trying to blindly know what what we have so we're giving you a guideline we're trying to help so then we can get a review price and
then they'll need to be a revolving account deposit that money from the owner of this with the town and then and then that'll be done probably before the next meeting if we get on it right away cuz the next meeting is the 20th and then we can um know what the Bond's
going to be and do the Covenant release again and we should just make it that we have an industrial let's finish the rest of the Lots with this process right and then I guess what what you come back with with that amount of money
he gets to decide whether or not he wants to do that yes I can't see it being much I mean it's just a a review of the work that's going to be done well no no no no no the bond is going to be to cover all the work that hasn't been done yes correct
I'm sorry yeah so that's what you're that's a fair amount of money yeah it it gets a little tricky because what he can do it for and what we can do it for are two vastly different things but a bond though of 220 what was it 25 remember that around
there was like what 5,000 42 okay he actually made he's going to look at it and say if it's to much I'm just going to wait the two months and finish it myself you know that's that's way that's way it may not be worth you guys going through all of this effort to have him
come back and say well you know what I you're that close you get this time y thr5 Grand away yeah and that's the kind of work they do so they can yeah he's in Foxboro though which is that's why he hasn't done anything with it he wants nothing okay you know
when he had 15 houses to build it was one thing but now if he's got one lot just a suggestion with an underground swimming pool bunker with an underground swimming pool in a bunker in a bunker let's that's worth coming down from
foxb wave ner this has nothing to do with the planning board but just as an aside when you're going to the zoning board of appeals you're going to ask for I would think two variances I'd also change the
language and make it say and or special permit and when you apply in the application yeah in case they decide to go special permit route and if they decide that then you'd have to refile
re advertise and do all but if you put the language in all at once no matter what they want to do you've got it covered you can amend it as you go if you had to okay and this is what I special permits Andor excuse me
variances Andor special permits okay and this would get presented to the appeals okay does do they would they need him to would would this be good enough or would we need him would I think so you'd
present it to the secretary and have her or the admin and have her pass it by the chairman to see can I come into the town hall and and provide this and and yeah that's my take on it yeah I mean I don't I don't mind coming in and having to say no you're going to
have to do something else but if you think that that's a way to go I just don't see why they would need house plans I mean cuz you're really just looking at to yeah probably not no you're just looking at top single family home yeah I mean I can come in and drop this off and have them look at it and
have them tell me yes or no yeah if it suffices I would I would send it by conservation too I really would cuz you're building within the 100 yeah you're going to have to file with them event but Grady Grady didn't think there'd be any real problem with it he
just this it you're outside working with he was not concerned about this the Conservancy he has said he never dealt with one in Halifax so he wasn't certain what that was going to but um it was that top of foundation top of
foundation yeah and again conservancy and conservation are two different things cuz I saw Conservancy a year and a half ago when I came in here and that's what I was asking about and really couldn't find out anything you know all I heard was it's a buildable
lot and so I appreciate you guys thank you very much you guys have been very patient very helpful I really appreciate it you you're helping us get get this storm out of our side I hope so even with the quirkiness
of it all we still it's still you probably see some beautiful Wildlife from your windows nothing's going to go behind us I would put some beautiful windows out the back so that you can see it all it would be so beautiful that's all and that's having the walkout basement and everything that's going to
us plenty of access very cool good you might want to consider the property out back you were saying you I I I maybe give you an EAS you know it's funny you had to say the e word we're almost
home yeah do that after you guys that was that was great okay you guys I that was good to see thank you very much all right thank you thank you let's do our bills here Jack I think you want to do this
yeah there we go okay I'll make a motion to pay pgb engineering for Professional Services between January 21st 2025 and the end of January 2025 for hild the L Lane plan review services in the amount
of $68.7 I already have a motion on the floor do I have a second second a motion in a second to approve the bill from uh pgb engineering invoice 433 all those in favor say I I I
unanimous uh we don't need an extension for uh no because they're good all right what else do we have planning board approval denial forms we don't need that anything I'll make a motion anything in the black one no it's
bills nothing second a motion in a second to adjourn all those in favor say I how did I is this your how do I end up with this
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