you're on Good evening everyone This meeting is being held with the benefit of public notice as required by the open public meetings act Madam clerk would you call the role mr Caribelli here Miss Phillips here Mr Whan here Mr Pero here Mr Todd here Uh would everyone please rise for
the salute to the flag and provocation I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
Dear God please guide our path and most specifically our thoughts and actions May we as elected and government officials represent fairly and with wisdom the township and its residents We make these intentions in those in our hearts Amen Amen
[Music] So I'd like to thank everyone for joining us Uh the format of this is relatively informal Uh my council colleagues know they can jump in at any time Uh I want the same to be true for our guests Feel free to jump in if
there's uh some point that you want to clarify Uh judge welcome Uh Jessica welcome Thank you for joining us Do you have uh any opening remarks that you would like to make always me
Always me she said Well first of all uh both Jessica and I appreciate coming in Um it's nice at least once a year for us to show up here and you guys get a chance to ask us some questions and we can tell you a little bit and if I'm going to talk first I'm going to tell
you I'm going to brag a little bit I so honored to be the judge here in Hamilton Township The musical court people we work with are just stupendous Um I encourage you all to come and visit us down at the court I offer that every year I'd love you guys to come and see
how a courtroom should work and how staff in the courthouse does work Um we've uh now completed our first year and 3 months of our drug court And if you recall our drug
court is called Opt for Health and Hope It's a staterun program Uh two years ago the attorney general in New Jersey chose to use $2 million worth of uh the opioid settlement money that he got from the pharmaceutical companies to do a drug
court in municipal court It's been involved drug court has in the spirit court for probably 30 years but it's never been tried before in municipal court You probably know there over 500 municipal courts in the state of New Jersey and the uh attorney general
decided to pick six and we were one of the six chosen I tell people in court every morning when I start I don't believe in conspiracies I don't believe in misinformation or disinformation I don't believe that the attorney general got a big hack and threw 500 names in it
and then one day picked out six I think he looked at six courts that were doing a great job As we tell people every day as residents of Hamilton if they're there with me they should be very proud that Hamilton chose was chosen as one of those six sports In the last year we've
had now 161 I think we have in the program or had in the program and we've now graduated 46 people 60 65 How time flies when you're having fun
In any case what that really means is those are 65 people who had acknowledged drug problems that we provided through the money the seed money we were given by the state um counseling and treatment for those 65 people and they've all
graduated now from our program So they've shown proof that they are no longer addicted and as a result the program allows me to dismiss the criminal charges that they were facing So uh I don't know Jessica I know she shared respiration
Okay I don't know if you saw that but there was a mother and a child Husband Husband I'm sorry She got the email I didn't Um where they thanked us for having now allowed them to have a wonderful
life that they had gone through years and years decades of addiction the one sad note in it she said was that apparently the mother had recently passed away and uh has not did not have a chance to see her child and grandchild
free of drugs So it's things like that that we hope we can do and we hope we're doing Um but again it comes down to the staff You know I tell the people they should be very proud of the the staff in Hamilton in the court And I tell them
always that um the staff rarely gets uh praised Generally they get angry letters they angry emails they get angry phone calls And although uh this is an honor I think for Hamilton Township Mist um the staff is the one doing the hard work
there And again as they've done all the time with all the things that I've asked them to do and Jessica asked me to do they just dig in and do the job And I I just can't be any prouder of them Other than that uh that is the main thing we're doing Um we're being monitored
through a group at John's Hopkins University as to how we're progressing and I'm going to imagine at some point in time the state's going to want to get involved in that monitoring as well Uh but what I understand from the last uh meeting that we had in the fall with the
representatives of the uh state and with John's Hopkins um our court of the six is doing the best in terms of moving people through the system and getting them the help they need So we're very very proud of that Other than that um I can tell you I from what I see every
month is when I monitor money coming in it's pretty much flat I tell folks there's not much we can do with that It's based simply upon uh tickets being issued by our local uh department Uh we get zero money of all the tickets
written by state police I had a long day today about 3 hours and some minutes because the state uh has started a cell phone while driving campaign And so we
had well I had just telling Jess I had close to 45 minutes on language line with the Spanish interpreter just doing one Spanish cell phone ticket after another And after all those that we did we got about we get $30 per ticket I
probably did 15 or so So we got $450 for all the work that we did And language line's going to take $700 Oh $70 $70 of it So um that's what we we're dealing with Nothing more we can do Um we've
been very fortunate and the folks that we've hired some of the new folks they cracker jack they do they dove right into the job and um I can tell from talking to them how much they love working there which I think is again a credit to the whole staff and Jessica So
I going to tell you I'm not going to talk much about the budget since I really am just along for the ride here with Jessica She does all the work Uh so I'm going to stop now and let you guys ask me some questions if you have questions about the functioning of the court and then you can ask Jessica more
about the budget Uh well first I want to say congratulations on the 65 graduates of the drug court Drug court is that what you call it yes We call it opt for help and hope cuz it's recovery court Recovery court even better And so um
obviously the big benefit is hopefully they're they're getting sober Um do they is there a legal benefit to the graduates well when they graduate I can dismiss the criminal charge So if they have a charge of failure to make lawful disposition of control danger subject or
possession of drug paraphernalia and included in the program is they allow us to do cases where somebody has a drugrelated charge And the best example always is shoplifting charge where the person may have stole infant formula not because they have a child but because
infant formula is valuable on the street and they either trade it for drugs or trade it for money to get drugs So the program carried at the end of the stick as we say is that I get to dismiss those charges I get to dress uh dismiss those
charges once they complete the program and I'm given those recommendations from the counselors I'm not involved in any of that treatment aspect of it Thanks Judge You're welcome Jessica did you have any remarks that you wanted to add at this time or you just want to be
available to answer questions before I do that I just wanted to thank council I received your uh letter when my uncle passed in January So thank you for that It was very kind Thank you Thank you Okay So with that we can just open it up
to any questions I I can kick things off Um thanks Judge for being here Thank you Jessica as always Um for all the work that you do in our courts Um just so Jessica just give me an idea a little bit I looked at the the staff Um the uh
it looks like it's not changing It looks like there's pretty much status quo Correct Correct Okay So there's nothing really to no changes at all Um the one quick question I had was regarding the revenue side If I'm looking at the the
um 2025 current budget revenues and I asked this uh in another budget meeting So I noticed that there was municipal court and alcohol funding of 20 22,000 Is that is that that would be the DWI DWI yeah So we can only utilize those
funds for DWI cases So do we expect any DWI uh funds this coming year in we get them every single year i mean but we can't project for them in the budget Um no cuz it changes a little bit Varies based on the amount
every year but it usually comes around May But even with that we have over $100,000 in grant money that we that carries over You can keep doing that but understand it's to be used only for drunk driving special sessions So okay
we can use that money for a special session For example let's say on a Friday afternoon that we have a case that needs to be tried rather than using up 2 hours 3 hours of a regular session doing one case we can flip that for example into a Friday afternoon and then
that pays for the prosecutor the public defender and the judge Okay I I guess my question is more on the budgetary side C Kath um just I just had a question So we can't show the projections though on on the 2020 for 2025 what that would look
like for the alcohol and the um admissible court right that that number is going to fluctuate year to year That can't be used as a am I correct in saying that yes It's not like we're not going to have it It's going to be there in 2025 We'll see a number there when we look at it in 2026 Right But in terms of
the revenue Yes Yes And so basically what we're allowed to do is anticipate the amount of revenue that we did last year and that's generally what we do right up until the point unless we have discussions with them and they think that there's some reason why it may be
less than that for instance Oh so you're saying Kathy then this 2025 budgeted number should be 22 We should actually have a number listed there This is Are you talking about the grants the grants Yeah The grants we can only
accept We can only in the budget when we receive them the award letter Okay We look That's why That's right That's right Introduce the budget Bang the final budget It's very But we can't anticipate them and we can't anticipate that until we get the award letter which
tells us how much and that we're actually getting that those funds However that grant works right and that one is we you're going to yell at me at the end of this meeting How many council meeting budget no no no It's fine because there's so many different sources of revenue So but I I didn't
know I didn't know if it was a grant or if it was you know if it was a source Okay No And that's it You There's so many different sources of revenue And so grants are are done that way You'll eventually see a chapter 159 resolution because we add that to the budget Okay
Okay But there's there's not a fear that we're going to lose that like we're going to apply for that money So we don't even apply for it We don't have to apply for it That's one of the ones that they do it based on a lot number of different things Right Yeah Basically there's a baseline where there were DWI
cases in Hamilton and as long as we're at that level the grants just automatically come in And this is a Jess is this a state it's state Okay I did check out Okay All right Good And where it's going to really help us is right now there's a bunch of DWIs are being placed on a held status Um there's it's
came into question the new alka test that they're using the breathalyzer Okay And all those cases where breath well for most defense attorneys they're requesting that those be put on held until the decision comes out whether or not that device was is accurate or not
So that money will help us because we have cases sitting and waiting until there's some decision Okay Which what did they say december maybe Oh no no no Um if you want more information I can provide it but if not I'll let it go But
basically we won't have a decision on the case involving the 9510 alpha test machine I think probably maybe even to a year from now They just started last month the initial briefing schedules where the challenges are being made
before a special master He has to take all the testimony listen to all the information lift get the briefs file his decision and then it gets sent up to the Supreme Court who also may require briefs they may require witnesses So we're not going to have a decision
probably till a year from now So that does that mean that the funding will be backed up or No it won't affect the funding That'll that's it's those types of situations that that funding helps So we don't have to have extra sessions paid out of township money that that money we could use There was a time
where we had quite a I mean when I in 2020 we hit about 226 CWIS over 60 days In fact we report that number is down to 74 So we haven't misutilized those funds in quite some time Put the mic closer to
Thank you Thank you for the clarification That was good Thank you Thanks pretty straightforward Yeah your your OE is pretty straightforward and and you know there's no real sizable increases at all that I noticed So
nothing [Music] really budget I know you do Good Well if nobody else has any questions I'll thank you for joining us tonight It was pleasure as always and thanks for you know such a
tight budget It's a tough year this year So thank you Well I I understood that coming in and we said you only are going to ask if we really really need it And honestly right now things are just running the way they're supposed to and I don't need just the basics Appreciate
it Thank you Have a good night Thank you Judge Next up is the Department of Finance No I'm kidding The Department will be the first time that we're called to reboot We're illegal Alyssa Jennifer thank you for joining us
Our pleasure Any opening remarks that you'd like to make i I just wanted to say that I'm on the record how thankful and proud I am of my department Um no matters what gets thrown at us and some wacky things get thrown at us on the
regular we were able to pivot We're able to get it done and handle it And I think one of my crowning achievements was that I put the mayor on the stand under oath today uh this year during trial So um you all are next Um if you wish we'll figure we'll figure out a case Uh but
you know I was able to um satisfy a bucket list item for the mayor So I I guess that was it was a great year Um couple of things that we noticed in prepping for
uh tonight's hearing Um we still wanted to bring up the public defender reserve um because there's still $240,000 in that account that is not
probably on your list here uh we have a there's a separate account that monies go in from the courts uh when they pay for public defenders and that and that money should be used to pay for some of our costs to cover public defenders and
and other costs in the court So I just want to remind everybody about that and we can work with administration to track it to really figure out and I'm looking at Eugenia and Kathy um but there is a pot of money that hasn't been touched in a long time Um so it might help
generally speaking And everyone's looking at me going "What are you talking about?" I did notice that the um and this was in the court's budget but uh the well the prosecutors uh are twice as expensive as the public
defenders Is this going to your point or not no it's something because the the public defenders aren't there all the time Number one so it's there's 10 sessions We don't have public defender coverage at all at on all this Am I on that's true
Okay Right And then the second issue is that the prosecutors are public are our PSAs are are we hire outside counsel to come in and hit some of the of the uh sessions versus our public defenders who are actually employees of the township
Okay Okay So it's it's it's two parts apples and orches a little bit Um so so the public defend that that this public defender account that's one thing I wanted to bring up Second of all I did notice that we when we were
talking with uh administration in the budget um 27 and 28 so it's page three I think the monies that you've transferred over to us to cover OPRA litigation and arbitration has been counted twice
now given that you all are my client I have to be honest with you and I will tell you when there's something that is being double counted So um it just I want I want us to look at question again I mean so so the Oprah
the 15,000 from the clerk should be in legal services because that's that is outside council The arbitration should be in other professional consultant because we we have to pay for uh consult for the arbitrator half of the arbitrator fee
when we go to arbitration for things like uh disciplinary matters perk or perk matters So that uh that's just something that we need to double check Which the the 10,000 yeah it looks like you count double counted the 10,000 and
the 15,000 might have been twice So let's just go back and look at that just to make sure Again I'm not a finance person I'm just the lawyer and I'm just trying to be honest Yeah we put them in we put them in two
accounts So it looks okay on quick glance but we can talk about it where you think it is because for that line item and if you're all following along it's under 027 And there's a description in the
description the detail piece of it you can see that oneline item for outside litigation employee defense etc etc Your department requested 90,000 and then because we pulled in those other two amounts from the two
other divisions or departments equaling 25,000 we added that to the 90 And so that leaves you with the 115,000 for that So if your 90,000 had those monies in there already but I'm
not sure that they did So let's I just I just want us to double check it to make sure it's correct All right Appreciate it Yes Yeah Don't hurt That was uh my anticipated she anticipated my question You got I'm sorry No not that I knew
that the 90 was included double No I'm joking She's got more That was a gotcha No I'm joking I'm joking I never got to roll it out And then the last the last edit or
ask is that in 29 y page four our that's for our copier We have since learned um we weren't sure at the time when we were budgeting um we knew at the time that our our our contract ends uh September 30th 2025 which leaves three more months
So we were subsequently told to the making of this budget that we would try to go monthtomonth until we get into the new building when we all are sharing um copers there in the departments And so we would ask for another $600 to be
added just to cover the month-to-month cost Otherwise we don't have a copier until December 31st Makes sense And by the way you're proud of your team We're proud of your team too I I often brag I often brag uh about the work you
guys have been doing over the past several years um helping reform government and you know uh just methodically uh kind of of bringing better government for for Hamilton So thank you guys for all the hard work
It's really been an honor and a pleasure Council members questions at all Yeah Once again you know we appreciate um it's pretty tight Mhm Yeah Tight budget
So you know we all brag about you so there's not much to say Thank you Yep That was for you too Jeff Thank you Let's make sure that was it does not appear that there are any questions so I'll say thank you for
joining us tonight Keep up the great work Thank you guys Thank you Our pleasure Now the Department of Finance [Music] We got busy week We do Yeah Every day is week Hello Mhm Hi Eugenia Thank you for
joining us I guess drawing is not part of finance anymore But I'm not moving I'm not moving I'm no just wanted to say thank you We had a we have had a very long year and uh but it was it has been very rewarding
You know it's we enjoy working as a team and uh basically seeing how all the changes that we have made in the last few years how everything it's kind of coming into place You know we were able to do the annual financial statement
meet the deadline the annual depth statement and um you know we finished the bank reconciliations on a timely back matter and it has all always everything has been a team work you know not only from the department but also
working with administration with Budget purchasing and all the other directors uh from the various departments So it has really been a great year because of that great teamwork and you know we
thank you for all of your support Thank you Thank you Thank you And uh in the finance the OE you're going to see there is an
increase in the operating budget for finance and that is mainly because of the contract with the broker for the health services Yeah Was was that something that we bid
on or is just that yeah we went out for an RFP and then it was basically based also on the experience and performance Any questions that you may have [Music] yeah
That's what you like here Uh Eugene it's not a big number but it's a big percentage The overtime number uh it's number 12 Actually why does that show as a 90%
increase it actually looks like it's flat Maybe 90% more than 90% of the actual 90% more than Okay Yeah Yeah So you just didn't use it last year Yes And that is mostly most of the overtime that we have there and we use it It's just
because of payroll or any quarterly reports related to payroll or pension I know it's the same with printing and binding number 23 That's what they just we didn't spend what we had budgeted
So don't take a look at this So I'll just ask a general question Um not so much on the O and but um how is uh Millennium working out how's that contract going um and and do
you know we're still aggressively seeking grants wherever we can Um any concern at the federal level and uh what that may look like for this year Millennium is working out great I think probably Joy and Kathy can answer that because they are closely working with
them They have but and and I think that falls under administration So Joy was probably jumping right over you finance budget Yeah Yeah It is in finance budget So I said then no working Okay But we
had to take a look and see what are the chances of the grants that are coming through that might be pulled that we don't have an opportunity for So um you know I don't know what we finally came to but I mean they've been really fantastic up until this point Yeah So
applying for two for me just today Good And and in the last two years you can see you know you're talking about the grants when we introduce the budget versus all the resolutions that you passed as chapter 159 I mean it's really
really there's a huge difference you know like the year before I there was like $5 million that we had in grants that we had received and we just had last week we had a a rating call with
S&P because we have the bonds that are coming due in May And one of the questions that they ask is basically I guess they're asking to everyone in the rating call now is the ARP funds because those are federal funds and they were
very impressed that because of how aggressive Hamilton has been out of the $70 million in ARP money that we've received since CO we only have 2,300 that has not been spent So we follow
through all the deadlines so there's no chance of really us losing any of that money That's great news Yep Mhm Uh Eugene yeah it looks like you've got um employees working toward certifications
Yes How's how's that uh coming along h that that is coming along good We have one of the employees that is now she's a supervisor and so they are they it's going for the certified municipal
finance officer classes Great That's good We have to work on a secession plan Always always good to have a a bench ready for the
future Any other questions guys good job Yeah All right Eugenia Thank you for joining us Thank you Okay Thank you Thank you This next one's going to be a tough one guys We got to go hard on this next
one You're on a roll This is the Thanks Eug Well I mean there's so much you don't know about the clerk's office What could I enlighten you maybe we should stop in more please The door is always open Fred knocks but you can just
come on in Your name is Council on the Door But no um there's really nothing else I could add that you don't already see Um the clerk's office has a fantastic staff Helen Britney and Danielle Um
their work speaks for itself So I really if you have any questions please feel free I'll point them to John and Thomas I think we all appreciate uh we all appreciate you guys and the work that you do for for us for the township
A lot of important work for the community takes place in the clerk's office So Alison we're going to be one less employee Correct Yes Um Kate has moved on So um yes that is the one less and we've seen it down uh a little bit
less obviously with the Oprah requests than what we did in the past Uh would I be right to say that oprah in 24 we ended with 2413 and currently for 25 we are at 767 Okay [Music]
Okay we're on pace Um advertising has changed right how advertising has changed Um you still have the ability even though the times is not printing you still have the ability to advertise online which is
just as expensive as print So um currently we are using the printonian um just because of the print Um in the event I do need two publications I do have both those options Still the Times and the Tran Correct But I I choose the Tranonian because like I said it's they
have a print edition still Yeah Still kind of a local paper Uh don't have much of a choice You were cool with that Printing and binding costs have gone
Well no You budgeted for 2,000 2,000 this year Yeah We laugh about the ABC because um we are printing the licenses Many years ago they printed the certificates and mailed them to us So we get to pay for the paper and we still
get to pay $3 to print that for them Guys I hear nothing Yeah Oh and now we're we do issue ID cards um for some of our licences which we didn't do in the past like towers for instance and uh solicitors That's good So you know the
the machine and the cost for the ID cards All right We can uh move on to the council budget Why do Oh we have a clothing and uniform category I noticed that line item Do we
have anything that we have we don't There's nothing that that was um your shirts and your jackets that you received years ago right was 2023 I don't think I honestly without I don't even see a list It was listed maybe in
21 I think that's What number is that all the way back in 21 500 in that item I mean it's 500 I'm just saying And they took it last year They transferred it They had to transfer it Yeah they had to transfer it Those uh
ponchos we got were $40 each Okay All right And we got enough pins Oh we have plenty of pins All right Good did new ones Okay He
put them All right Alison I think you're off the hook Thank you Putting girl too hard Kathy Department of Administration Yes sir Feel a little Any opening remarks you would like to make i don't have any opening remarks
but my Joy may have Joy would you join us at the table here julia is going to help us represent since she chose not to join us on the DAS and Thomas is here to talk about budget if you have questions on that division and uh I just wanted to ask you
a question on the adopted budget we have a million one in France Eugenia throughout the year if you're going to we need it on on you're only being picked up partially I just wanted to add on the you had a question about the grants and how
millenniums working on the adopted budget Last year we have 1 million1 in grants that we had received by then and then throughout the year we receive an additional 3.3 million So it's a nice chunk Mhm Yeah
Thanks Eugene Hello Joy Hello Thank you for joining us today Thank you Did you have any opening remarks that you would like to to make so overall for business um administration which
includes um information technology I don't want anybody to feel nervous or scared because we did pull a lot of different budget from other uh departments We took the Hamtech uh sort
of a one Hamilton technology team route So we're now my team my Hamtech team is now overseeing fire and PD You're saying Hamte hamchech Hamilton Technology Got it Um so it's a a big job that involves
a lot of work and just it in general with the the new ways of um people fishing and getting information and viruses and creepy stuff Uh there's a lot more that goes into it than even 5
years ago and we need to stay on top of it We have very strict rules with our cyber insurance and our GIF and there's been some very unfortunate incidents around the country that we want to avoid ever happening So it does involve some
putting some money into things but we have the right team now and I'm very excited about that Cyber insurance Mhm Um do they put some requirements as far as in order to ensure you have to have
certain measures in place they do We have to have um the duo tokens Um there's other um it's multiffactor There's a lot of training involved that we have to meet the their requirements for that before they'll just automatically cover us for cyber
security But we met all of those We did and Joy talked about all the changes there But we also have additional staff in IT We've hired a um an assistant director there that is been helping to
kind of just pull things all together especially as we consolidate a lot of the other departments that had their own kind of IT coverage and it was really did not flow well It was very difficult Um and not to mention that there and you you'll
probably want to take a look at the capital for it as well because there's there's a bit in there but um there were some past capital projects that still were kind of off in the distance and not u getting attended to because there was
so much work everywhere else But now with the additional staff they're focusing on those and have already started on at least two of the major projects that were kind of sluggish prior to this One of them is the new phone system So that will be done this
week This week Yep Switching over to the new phone system this week on the 16th Two days And the new phone system will serve us well when we move into the new building and year and plus year a few months Right That was a a lot of work
went into that Troy can I um you mind if I ask um under computer maintenance agreements in Wave Ion Wave What's that called ionwave What is that so that is
the online um bidding system Am I saying that right okay Purchasing It's where we do all the RFPs and all of the bids Is this a is this a new expense this year uh it's showing new in this budget It is not new to us uh this year because prior
to this and John you'll help me out with this cuz you were the ARP fund guru but I believe we paid for it through ARPA funds Oh so we didn't see it in the past It was covered So we had it and it it was just a less than a handful of years ago that we went to this all electronic
process which has been just so much more efficient Just fantastic No longer you know huge stacks of um RFPs and and bid specs that go out It's all done electronically We get more um vendors
that are giving us bids because they can do it from another state They don't have to show up They don't have to ship us their bid documents and things like that It's all done online And our um purchasing department did just a great
job in rolling that out a couple years ago and continuing to keep us all informed through that because it was a little bit of a training for everyone else that within the township that uses it not to mention the vendors So they've done a super job Okay cuz I noticed that
was the one item that was fairly consistent over the years and boom it went up this year So do you mind if we jump to the capital budget um I just have one other question on all Sorry
Um no I did not cuz the additional funds the additional funds needed for the financial courses and thing things like that that's for you right here That's That's for for the team to get up the training needed to get folks up to speed Absolutely Okay So that was answered Yep
We're good Do you want to talk about your capital budget sure Tell us about it What are we talking about the IT items Yeah No So there I'm looking at 145,000 in items I mean am I misreading
this tell us You haven't been then recommended to us I'm so 1125 requested 145 Why can't I find it it's not under budget I can't find it either So well it's page Well technology page one That
doesn't help It's the second page It's just the second page Mine is also sideways second page Yeah I know You got to hit the little No it doesn't work on mine I don't have the right version You just want You want my You want mine no it's okay I remember it There there's disaster recovery replacement and door
access control conversion The disaster recovery Uh so that's the backup for the whole everything that's on our network So we need to have a a recovery in case that goes down What was the second one the door access control
Yeah So with moving to the new building in 18 monthsish we're going to have a door access system that is nothing like the one we have here It's going to be very advanced and it takes a little bit of a while to learn the software on that
So we want to install it get a year of practice on it and really not here We're not doing anything in this building in one of our external buildings um like the call center or public works one of the buildings that's not moving keeping Yeah Yes So put the state-of-the-art
system there Yeah So we're going to need it anyway because we want everybody to be on the same page when we have the new building So just kind of getting ahead of it so we can really know the ins and outs when we're in this beautiful new building So you're financing these two items Yeah they'll be under the capital
plans and so when it comes to funding for that it'll go as we spend it if if need be right um not a ton of borrowing No So as with all of the capital areas you know that we really paired it down
this year just in anticipation of having to have large amounts in there right and other years next year or the year after with the municipal building with the municipal building right so okay Um just to control our debt service and for
computer replacements And what are you doing this year for the computer replacement program yeah 100,000 right because we have that in our capital Yes All right Yep And that's to also to incorporate needs at
PD that we didn't uh it's a part of the capital budget also So I think it's in our regular budget and it's a didn't we put in uh monies again a capital outlay uh I believe it's not capital outlay We were going to take it from something
like capital improvement that we had built up Oh so you have a fund You can tap into that for a reserve that we have there You don't have to fund it right and so for what what we've tried to do in the last couple of years for what I
want to say smaller amounts compared to the millions of dollars you pay for roads and things like that those things we have to fund finance through bonds and such But for the smaller peace meal things that we have in there we try to take some of those out and just pay pay
cash for them basically for from reserves that we have now There are limits on like how many years you can go out on these kinds of items right that's what happens too that they they look at we'll put all of these items in in basically one bond ordinance right and
so they do an average of um of the life of everything that's in there and that's how long you can bond it So if it ends up you have uh a 20-year road but you have a 10year piece of equipment they'll average that out based on a weighted
average of that So you may end up with a 17-year life on the whole ordinance Right Lump it all together One issue right correct That's how it works And with the market being so volatile right we're really watching it kind of very carefully
because the bond market is as volatile as the stock market right now 5year Treasury is up and up Bonds were set The interest rate It's been going crazy Yeah So up and down Okay Okay
Well what else uh office of the mayor Yeah All right Joy are you uh you're done i'm done I'm in You're not mayor So we'll we'll we'll talk to that one I'll Nice job Thanks
Joy The mayor's office has the mayor's and um and hamstat I saw that Okay So for the mayor's office there are some um additional salary and wage in there
and they're for existing staff that we had to find some funds for because they're grant funded and those grants are in question as to whether they'll continue I didn't realize we had grant funded employees mayor's office
Well in the mayor's office though Well most of them are in health Yes most are in health but um Ava well she's from one of the the uh she's in the mayor's office but is you know was funded by one of those grants as well So
so so throughout this budget anything that any employees that were funded through federal grants are going to essentially be protected under this budget So I I don't want to say any of them We're waiting to see on some of the
grants because we're not quite sure of the status of them And um some of the positions uh particularly in health were um always when they're grant funded they're temporary They're not permanent employees So it may be that we eliminate
that position Um so we haven't really done that for certain yet because nothing is certain yet on on all of those Okay And some of those have been uh that grandma's been uh really helpful in uh reaching underserved communities
uh folks who don't speak English uh getting uh the services out to uh those communities who might not otherwise um participate in in the programs Yes So we're trying to save the programs but we
you know we don't have the magic answer for for all of it and not knowing exactly what's going to happen with the funds yet We're we're just sort of playing it by ear Some of them we we absolutely did add some additional funds in for a portion of the year just to try
to cover it until we know [Applause] Can I ask you a question so when it says there's an amount requested and then it says administration recommended
it's under the mayor So the mayor cut himself for apparently for which one i mean seems kind of funny What item all 11 on the mayor under the mayor's case That was what they requested Oh yeah So
the mayor So the mayor cut himself essentially The mayor gave them the admins recommended more than was requested That's absent for requested The mayor mayor requested 311 and then the mayor mayor recommended himself to go down 40,000
Actually he g the mayor was not the first part of the budget process It was Kathy and Joy retirement Oh we had a retiree I understand it's still under the mayor It's just fine Yes
but that was good Here's the mayor But I would tell you yes he would cut himself because he treats his department just like he treats everybody else So he's he's fair in his slashing
So there's hiring to be done And do you have a time frame on when you're going to backfill that uh vacancy in uh Hamstead So I believe it's been done and it's been uh with somebody internal within Oh
good And so have we backfilled um the opening that uh Lindsay left when she got promoted we did hire somebody That's right Did the transfer yes Solve that button We did We had just earlier this year
No Uh you don't have anything in capital do you i don't think so No No He would have cut it right out What the hell that's cuz I don't I don't have the
separation Let me just take them out Okay Never in there That's why I was looking I seen you Oh they're blue I know that they're something You had a question on Oh just trying to Is that still Department of Health department of
Health Yeah Ready for that Any anybody else have anything we do have one capital item It was under uh budget and purchasing It's for a um a new postage
machine Those things really take a beating when you do a lot of postage Other one lasted nine years Mhm You know they have those manual stamp
letters Oh boy Tried that for I just ran 90 times 90,000 This was like completely out of warranty and maintenance and needed to be supported anymore Yeah you do it by hand you'll be paying a carpal tunnel syndrome Either way
you're going to lose something Workers comp for everybody Yes So good Uh all right Well unless anybody else has anything Anybody else have anything they want to add any other uh Kathy on
this you just see these two are having a sidebar Let's just see if they have But I have one You want you want a bar anything else guys no sir Everybody's good Thank you Thank you everybody Thank
you This meeting's adjourned