You ready? We'll call this meeting to order. Please rise for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Good evening. We'll turn it over to Mr. Irvin. Members of the Board and Superintendent Mapes, it is my privilege to highlight a new and exciting student experience at our junior highs. This experience started with our common schedule and the challenge to our junior highs to
think about new courses, courses that promoted critical thinking, teamwork and problem solving. As a result of some visionary teachers, students across our district are exploring innovation, as Emily Ablitz says, one brick at a time through our new robotics elective. The elective is offered at all junior highs in partnership with Lego Education, And this hands on course allows students to dive deeply into engineering, coding, design thinking, using LEGO SPIKE Prime Kits, which are so much fun and cool.
This would not be possible without some impressive professional collaboration and creativity from our teachers of this course, Theo Velani, Seth Zook, Christopher Heyman, and Eric Brown. Let's give them a round of applause. They're up here in the front They attended a summer institute together and have completed specialized training through LEGO Education to really ensure that we have high quality instruction aligned to, academic standards. In the lessons that I've seen, the students collaborate, they build, they program robot models and they perform real world tasks.
They develop technical skills and these skills connect directly with future careers, careers in advanced manufacturing, engineering and computer science. The program also supports our district, vision of Journey of a Student by providing those learning experiences that truly do prepare students for their world and shape their future. I've visited the classrooms to see it in action, and I couldn't be more excited and pleased with with the student experience that they have created. But don't take my word for it. Emily has created a video to help you see it in action.
So but that's right. You're not the first to say that. Across Hamilton Southeastern Schools, seventh and eighth grade students are discovering the power of innovation one brick at a time. Your three objects from here to that great part as fast as possible. This year, a new robotics elective is sparking creativity and problem solving at all four HSE junior highs through a partnership with LEGO Education. It's very creative, and it lets you, build stuff that you wouldn't normally build at home with LEGOs. We got a code the things that we built.
It's interactive, and you can do a whole lot more than just normal coding with these. It's a lot of fun. It helps, like, in the future, like, if you wanna do something with engineering. I've learned how to work better with people I don't know, and I've gotten better at coding. There's a lot of options for girls in STEM, and I think it's really fun with you gentlemen. On this day, students were given a time challenge to design and program a robotic arm capable of picking up three real world objects.
Each build challenged them to apply critical thinking and technical skills while connecting their learning to the growing career fields of advanced manufacturing, engineering, and computer science in Central Indiana. To bring this to life, HSE robotics teachers work directly with LEGO education certified trainers to ensure every student benefits from a high quality, standards aligned experience. It's just an all around great encompassing program. How could it not be? We're learning while we're playing, you know, and there's that's the best combination of learning you could ever have. From creative builds to coding challenges,
students are discovering what it means to think critically, work together, and turn imagination into Thank you very much. We'll now move on to 3.01, public comments on posted agenda items. And just for clarification, our policy states that all comments must be germane and related to a board agenda item. And just many people signed up under four zero three claim four zero three and that must relate to the agenda at hand tonight. So we will start with Justin Davis speaking on 6.02,
Redistricting Recommendation. Good evening, everyone. My name is Justin Davis, and I currently live in Canal Place and have spent the last ten years in a Geist Elementary District. My oldest daughter is a first grader attending Geist Elementary with my youngest scheduled to attend kindergarten next fall. I'll use my time to discuss redistricting, specifically Geist Elementary. This is all a result of massive growth for Fishers, but poor planning in the process. We are growing east, but focusing a shift to a school located downtown or significantly west of the growth. And while I'm here selfishly for just my daughters,
I am sure I'm speaking on behalf of many in this room. In October, options two, three, and four were proposed for the Geist Elementary boundaries, all of which included the same section of neighborhoods. Feedback was requested at that time in this section of neighborhood, which is, between 96th, 104th, Bolio Road, and Geist as a north border, a rectangle, if you will. Feedback was requested at this section of the community I'm sorry. Feedback was requested at that time and this section of the community was unaffected and remained within the Geist Elementary District. Further, as happened everywhere in this community,
families started discussing the changes that were being proposed, and we began having discussions with our seven year old daughter. She was worried about her friends that were possibly moving out of the district and asked if we were moving because of it. After reviewing the three proposed options, we reassured her that we were not affected by the change, to which she responded, makes sense. We're so close we can walk to our school. However, the latest recommended borders released just last night now split the neighborhood that we live in in through a street, dividing parts of the neighborhood at Canal Place and Brooks Manor. This means neighbors living side by side on the same street will be placed in
different districts. As homeowners, we were not part of any prior proposed changes because we were in an area for options two, three and four that were not changed. And now this new feedback, this new proposed recommendation will split us. The months of community input were based on those three options none of which split our neighborhood. Looking at the current proposed boundaries the northwest point of the district follows the lake as a boundary, the southern boundary follows 90, the western boundary follows the lake and keeps those communities intact, and the eastern boundary follows main roads and includes entire neighborhoods.
The only portion of the new recommended map that does not follow logical or natural divisions is this small section of our neighborhood and Brooks Landing. Now the enrollment impact, checking my time, enrollment impact, Geist Elementary is five ninety eight students, proposed is five seventy four, puts you 85% capacity. The building holds six seventy five students. The neighborhoods that are excluded was roughly 170 homes. And if you look at the yield based on many of the other neighborhoods, it's about 20% which would be 34 elementary students. That does not change the capacity based on that neighborhood alone.
Please do not split this neighborhood. I understand there's many families here that are being affected, but there should be normal boundaries not in the middle of a neighborhood where neighbors are going to different schools. Thank you. Moving on to Ben Greenbaum, speaking on 4.03. Ben Greenbaum, I'm a parent in the district, and I appreciate the time. I would typically not lend my voice to contentious public matters when all you have is a three minute window to voice concerns or questions that will inevitably be applauded or dismissed because of preexisting ideological beliefs.
So I question, what's the point of speaking? But here I stand because I'm finding it difficult to understand why we are asking our teachers to take what amounts to a pay cut next year. With the proposed You're you're speaking about collective bargaining, and that is not on the agenda tonight. Next is Dylan McKean, speaking on 6.02, redistricting recommendation. Hello. My name is Dylan McCain and I think I represent probably a small fraction of the people that go to HSE. I live out in the country, and we're the generational families of HSE and don't have a neighborhood to split.
And I have a couple of kids that have gone through the system and we love it. Like we moved here from Chicago because we really love it twelve years ago. We love our country lifestyle. But the thing that really got to me was every one of the options that was presented to us. So we live out just South Of 38, in this big zone here. And we go to HIJH, and this is the student that I'm most concerned about. All of the maps that have been presented to presented to us had shared that division and sent us to HIJH, which we really love. My older son went there, sat on the board, set was first chair. Excuse me,
sir. Excuse me. Madam president, can we please pause? Please. We have a speaker speaking. Please be respectful. Can we please pause him and let these people leave the room so we can give him his respected time? Just hold on. Thank you. Sorry, Pavel. No, don't be sorry. I'm just here for a simple matter that just impacts my little kids. So I guess the net net of what I want to talk about is just simply that we were given no options to speak up during all of this. Every one of the things we were sent on the eighteenth was simply that we'd continue to go to HIJH, which was awesome.
We had previous anxiety in our house because my wife is a teacher and our son experienced anxiety whenever we first were redistricted to Deer Creek. So what I'm asking for is last night, it was quite a shock to see we've been totally redistricted after thinking we were going to continue the school system for a younger brother who wants to be like his older brother, who sat for his chair in the orchestra, who throws in track, who does all of these different things, who actually was the flag bearer at the Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier representing HIJH. So it's a thing that our little son wants to do just like his older
brother. And I just want to say last night when we got this, we were really shocked and didn't know what to do. And I just would like for you to reconsider that even though I know the consultants probably look at it as a big swath, we're just a small group of families that really love HSE. So thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Moving on to Matsude Faiza speaking on four point zero three. Good evening. I'm here to talk about the impact that HSE Teachers had on my kids, and then I have an ask.
Yes, absolutely. Does that doesn't really relate to 4.03? Not even the ask? I'm here to ask to pass a resolution on behalf of the teachers. No, that does not relate to current payroll, which is what that agenda is. Exactly. That's what it is. No, to current payroll, not to next year's payroll. Okay. Thank you. Moving on to Michelle Fullhart, four point zero three. Thank you. My name is Michelle Fulhard. I've been a part of the HSC School District since 'ninety one as a teacher, parent, school board member.
I'm grateful my three children received excellent education starting in kindergarten and continuing until they graduated. In looking over the many payables on the agenda tonight, it is understandable that the district our side would have a lot of bills to pay. As managers of your own financial households, you know when times are tight, you prioritize items and eliminate some that, while they might be nice, are not truly needed for the upkeep of your household. In the case of a school district, paying teachers should be at the top of the list of priorities. Michelle, that is, again, really Well, I have some points down here.
Do they relate to current payroll? They do, yes. And that one half of 1% is what is needed and some cost cutting ideas as related to the list of payables. That doesn't relate to the current payroll. It does. The current payroll has payments to vendors. Vendors need to be talked to Please send that to us in an e mail. I will. But one half of 1% is all that's needed. Thank you. Please send that in an e mail. Moving on to Janelle Stierwalt, $4.03
Moving on to Katie Thurston, $4.03 You have to sign up prior. I'm sorry. We cannot do that. That's policy. But this time, where should we ask where our questions were answered just in our non permitted consent? To ask for questions to be answered? Just I Okay. Please send it to me, please, and I will be glad to make sure it gets answered. Your name, please? Sharon Foster. Okay. I'll be glad to make sure that gets answered. Moving on to Briley Tostee, 4.03. Stephanie Hunt, 4.03.
School board and mister Mapes, tonight, I am speaking on agenda item 4.03. Four people on this board were elected with the campaign promises of addressing a made up issue of administrative bloat and that they would bring financial conservancy and responsibility to our district. Fast forward to forcing out the previous administration and hiring their superintendent, who in their words, bloated our central office up at least another $315,000. This is that again. Payroll right now. We're paying $315,000. I am not speaking about the contract at all.
I am not in favor of losing anyone or or anyone losing a job. I am human and a mother, and I think of the families who are depending on the salaries and insurance of all the employees of this district. However, when you say you have audited the district and there's no money to be found, I have to ask if your bloated administration that had to quietly spend money to add more offices to our central office building has been included in that audit. We are That is also not payroll. Thank you. Moving on to Amanda Reed, six point zero two. Good evening,
and thank you for your time. I understand these are my personal words regarding my child. However, I hope they are heard. I currently have a fourth grade daughter at Deer Creek Elementary. We moved into our home in Silo Ridge, which is located at 32 in Bowdoin because this area currently feeds through Fall Creek Intermediate and Junior High, ultimately leading to HSE High School. This caused my daughter relief as she would align on a consistent flow to HSE High School. In all previously redistricting plan options and currently as mentioned, Silo Ridge was aligned in this manner.
However, the proposed plans that were released on Tuesday have unexpectedly changed this routing, directing students from Silo Ridge through Sand Creek Intermediate and Fishers Junior High, which more so feeds into Fishers High School to then be districted back to HSE High School. In addition, the areas that are currently under, that are currently undeveloped farmland are in the Fall Creek Intermediate and Junior High district lines. Students that are not even there yet to begin connections with peers and school bodies based on where they live. Yet now, my child is being potentially shuffled through schools we did not have in mind when
moving into our already existing home. I will also add that my neighborhood, Silo Ridge, isn't visible on any of the maps in your PowerPoint presentation for the redistricting process. It actually cuts off the top where our neighborhood is. From a mental health standpoint, I believe maintaining a consistent pathway as outlined in the initial plans is crucial for developmental, academic, and social reasons during the challenging adolescent years. I understand there is currently high school choice of location and children are resilient, but why do we have to challenge that in an already challenging world?
I urge the board as you vote on the redistricting plans and matter to please consider the original plans for this area that allow a consistent flow to HSE High School. Thank you. Sarah Renfro, four point zero two, Personnel Reports. Good evening, Ward and Mr. Maids. This is read on behalf of an author who remains anonymous. Oh, yes. Thank you. Once upon a time, in a not so far away land, people came from all over for school systems so grand. Best in the area, everyone was told. Great teachers, awesome admin,
of course they were sold. As time went by, things seemed to stay the same. Who knew that in a few more years, education would turn into a This really doesn't relate to the personnel report. Are educators personnel? No. I mean, it has to relate to today's report. Moving on to WAFSAFE, 4.03 Kim Backley, 4.03 Henry Swick, 4.03 Avon Simcoe, 4.03 Tyler Zerbe, 403 Brianne Tostee, 403
Jessica Knudson, 602. Hello. My name is Jessica Knudson, and I am a parent in District, specifically up in the Deer Creek area. After all the meetings, all the surveys, all the input, we have still not once been presented with an option for our area regarding intermediate and junior high schools. We have been moved three to four times in the past six to seven years, and we've gone with it from Fall Creek to HIJH to choice between the two, giving guidance that HIJH was filling up and we would probably have to get moved
back to Fall Creek We followed that. We get buses for both. Now, 100% of our area, 156th Street to 166th Street, Bowdoin to Summer Road, is being moved to Sand Creek Intermediate and Fishers Junior High back to HSE High School. None of our families in our area trust that high school choice will still be an option We have moved so many times These houses haven't existed for more than seven years We picked where we wanted our kids to go to school They are closer They cross less roads like in a way Like if you drive those paths,
there's less lighting in our area It is safer to just go down Olio than to zigzag through when there are plenty of neighborhoods that could have been moved to Sand Creek Intermediate and Fall Creek or in Fishers Junior High. Instead, you have moved our families over and over. And at the beginning of this whole process, we were to be treated with equity, and we have not. Our area is growing. We will be back here redistricting in a couple of years, no matter what you do. I lived through this in Carmel, and they we had some overcrowding. We've had overcrowding at our elementary school and understaffing.
My daughter's minutes physically cannot be met at Deer Creek due to understaffing Our IUP caseload is so big And I've let it go And I will not continue to let it go I will make sure to keep the district busy because we are understaffed and full, and we continue to not listen to families' voices. So what is the point? Why have I shown up time and time again to every survey, every meeting, both high school things, emailed everyone up here, spoken to many people over here that know what our area feels like, and nothing, every single option is to send us over there.
So what happened to all of our surveys, all of our input? Nothing. It's been a waste of our time. People are looking at going to Lapel. You will continue to lose people and bank on the new construction, I guess, to fill our seats. We have no answers, no responses, no one's heard back, nothing. I know we're not Fisher's addresses, but why are we constantly ignored? That's the feeling that you have left us with up there. Understaffed, ignored and sent wherever, year after year. Kenzie Cook, 403 Raimi Johnston, 403 Sarah J.
Rowe, 4.03 Good evening, members of the school board. My name is Sarah, and I have three kids and two step kids in this district, ages four to 14, so I'm deeply connected. Current payroll is not enough. Fix it or we will lose teachers in this affluent city. It's common sense. Matthew Hammock, 4.03. Good evening, Board, Mr. Mapes. I originally wanted to speak on both the one that we're not allowed to as well as redistricting. I am a proud parent of two boys in this community.
I'm a proud son of an educator for more than forty years. I am so thankful for the administration at Sand Creek Elementary, for my past teachers, Mrs. Wepler, for Mrs. Passon, for Mrs. Bierce, my current teachers, missus Contino, as well as, brain freeze. Kindergarten teacher, Bear with me. Mrs. Moore, they have been fabulous. My wife has volunteered on focus committees. We've done all the work. We've listened to the different proposals that Wolpert has put forward. We've seen the changes that have happened each time the revisions happened.
We've noticed the changes that have happened with the one that you publicly released last night. The fact that schools and students are being torn apart for a stated goal to relieve the pressure on schools in the East and neglecting the schools on the West has failed. If you look at the public sentiment on the votes on the proposed plans, all three of them are significantly underwater. They do not fix the bigger problem of solving the crisis on the East. It is a band aid. All the while, you are moving communities, ripping dollars away from schools,
and ripping friendships apart. For what on the West? Absolutely nothing. This community, this school district, was not built in boardrooms or by spreadsheets or by Fishers One. It was built on the backs of our teachers and our administrators and the community at large who have invested in our schools. It is time for the board to fix the problem right or not do it at all. Thank you. We'll now move on to item four, consent agenda. There are three items presented on tonight's consent agenda: 4.01
Board Minutes, 4.02 Personnel Reports and 4.03 Claims, Payrolls, four zero three and four fifty seven Salary Reduction Agreements. Do I have a motion to approve the entire consent agenda as presented? Motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. Second. I'll now call the question. All those in favor of approving the consent agenda, say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. Nay. We'll do roll call. Suzanne Thomas? Nay. Sarah Parks Rees? Nay. Ben Orr? Yes. Latricia Schooley?
Nay. Dawn Duane? Yes. Tiffany Pascoe? Yes. And I'm a yes. Passes four to three. Moving on to 5.01, approval of SCE temporary speech language pathologist, Ryan Taylor. Good evening. I stand before you in regards to two items, five zero one and five zero two, and those relate to the special personnel items in accordance to Indiana code and hiring of employees. And the first, I would ask and request a motion to approve the Sand Creek Elementary temporary speech
language pathologist as presented. Do I have a motion to approve this item as presented? Motion to move item as presented. Second. Any comments or questions from the Board? I'll now close discussion and call the question. Suzanne Thomas? Yes. Sarah Parks Ruiz? Yes. Ben Orr? Yes. Patricia Schooley? Yes. Dawn Lang? Yes. Tiffany Pascoe? Yes. And I'm a yes. Passes seven-zero. Thank you, Ryan. Moving on to 5.02, approval of part time district substitute teacher. Yes. Again, I would ask and request the motion to approve the part time district substitute teacher
as presented. Do I have a motion to approve this item as presented? Motion to move item as presented. Second. Any questions or comments from the Board? I'll now close discussion and call the question. Suzanne Thomas? Yes. Sarah Parks Ruiz? Yes. Ben Orr? Yes. Patricia Schooley? Yes. Dawn Lang? Yes. Tiffany Pascoe? Yes. And I'm a yes, pass a seven-zero. Thank you very much. Thank you. Moving on to 5.03, boiler purchase. Matt Rapp. Good evening. Thank you for allowing me to present the boiler replacement project at Harrison Parkway Elementary to you.
I am here to ask the Board to approve the replacement of one of the boilers that is 27 years old. This boiler is an energy hog and is at the end of its lifecycle. It will be replaced with a high efficiency boiler that will be eligible for energy rebates from our utility company. This project was planned and budgeted in our twenty five ten year budget plan. We advised we advertised and received four bids. The lowest bid was $212,000 The facilities tonight, I would like to ask to vote on recommend awarding the purchase and installation of
the new boiler at Harrison Parkway Elementary School to Lehman's Mechanical Contractors for $212,000 Do I have a motion to approve this item as presented? Motion to approve as presented. Second. Any questions or comments? I'll now close discussion and call the question. Suzanne Thomas? Yes. Sarah Parks Riess? Yes. Ben Orr? Yes. Letrisha Schooley? Yes. Dawn Lang? Yes. Tiffany Pascoe? Yes. And I'm a yes. Passes seven-zero. Thank you. Moving on to 5.04 updated 04/2003 and April plans.
Tim Brown? Good evening, members of the Board. Mr. Mabes, pretty quick here as this has gone to Finance Committee already. We have a couple of retirement plans that the district contributes to and employees have the option to contribute to as well and those are four zero three and four fifty seven retirement plans. These were last updated in 2021 before the board and a number of legislative actions have taken place through the SECURE Act, the CARES Act and the SECURE two point zero Act. And so through the work of Ice Miller, our legal counsel in this particular arena, we have updated all of the four zero three and four fifty seven plans.
And before you on the screen are the executive summary of the changes. What I would say is all the changes that we made are really just more flexibility for our employees and one of the biggest is adding a Roth contribution option. And so the employee would have the option to elect to have their dollars that they put in, not the districts, but the dollars they put in to be a Roth contribution, in essence, post tax. And they would also have the option to roll over any money in the account to a Roth. That's a taxable event that would trigger a, $10.99 from, Voya, our preferred vendor, but certainly an option for the employee.
Additionally, with the CARES two point zero Act and some additional legislation, there's some increased catch up provisions that are now available. There's a catch up that already exists, but what they call a super catch up if you fit in the age bracket of 60 to 63. And so we wanted to make sure that was available for our employees. We also wanted to clarify that the matching contributions for the four zero three are based on base salary. That language just need a little cleanup in the plan document. And then additionally, when it relates to financial hardships, item number seven on the page that you see, these can now be self certified. So no longer would we certify if this is something that is valuable or accurate
or not, that would be up to the employee because it is their account. And then the minimum distributions that are required as a part of the CARES two point zero and or excuse me, the Secure two point zero Act are included. So really just additional flexibility for our employees and bringing all of our plan documents up to current legislative requirements. That was the four zero three. The four fifty seven is almost an exact replica of that. Roth contributions are available now for employees. They can do an in plan Roth rollover. They have the increased catch up. And then, there is a provision for high wage earners having to make their contributions as of Roth contribution and that is just required as a part of the four fifty seven.
So I have before you both plan documents for one approval tonight to bring those up to our current requirements and standards. Can I get a motion, please? Do I have a motion to approve this item as presented? Motion to approve item as presented. Second. Now questions, comments. Sorry for getting ahead of that. Just want to clarify, this applies to all employees? So these are just overall plan provisions? Absolutely. This is our plan document that is asynchronous or not specific to a vendor. So, we use an independent group to create these. Right now,
Voya is our preferred vendor in this space. But for whatever reason, if we would leave Voya, these documents are not specific to them. They're universal in that regard. Okay. So, this is because we obviously have collective bargaining going on right now. We have other employee groups. This applies to everyone. All groups of employees have access to the Roth now, the same matching contributions, all of it varies. Thanks. Yes. To clarify, the Roth would be effective 01/01/2026. Okay. Many aspects of the plan update are based on 01/01/2025, but the Roth specifically, we have to allow time for our vendor and our payroll system to be prepared
for this option. Are we making any changes to the matching contributions outside of whatever will be decided in collective bargaining? So outside of collective bargaining to this point, there have been no changes to those other employee groups. Okay. Thank you. Has there been any increased cost from the vendor for adding this on and changing the plan document? No increased cost from the vendor. There are costs for the legal requirements to put all these documents into current compliance, but no changes to the preferred vendor costs. And do you know what the costs are? I believe on this claim listing,
it was around $11,000 and listed as Ice Miller as our counsel to do this. Full transparency, we don't have the expertise to do the legal requirements to make these in compliance. So we needed to tap those experts. Okay. Anyone else? We'll now close discussion and call the question. Suzanne Thomas? I apologize. I was writing. Can I just ask one real quick question? Just ask, is this just for the one year, right? This is just a one year and then we'll redo it again next year? We would not redo these next year. These are our boilerplate documents. Then if there's major legislative action that would require us to change it, we would come back before the Board.
But that's there's flexibility in the plans to not have to come back on a yearly basis. Again, we didn't update them since 2021. Okay. Thank you, Tim. And my apologies, Madam President. My vote is yes. Sarah Parks, please? Yes. Ben Orr? Yes. Leticia Scholey? Yes. Dawn Lang? Yes. Tiffany Pascoe? Yes. And I'm a yes. Thank you very much. Moving on to 5.05, policy second reading. Doctor. Kegeli? Good evening, Board. Mr. Mapes, coming before you tonight seeking approval. This is our second reading for four policies this evening.
All four of these went to our policy committee last week. As a refresher, K11 commercial and corporate sponsorships, no change, just refresh and did a review of that, but no changes. K3.04, you can see the strikethroughs and just to condense an updating of language. K6.00, school release of promotional information in schools. Again, updating language, I think it was 2006 since this has been reviewed, and just bringing that updated. And then J, 10, this is our referenced review and a handbook of our re Recruitment Restraint and Seclusion
Handbook, and that has been updated, and a link has been placed in this policy that links to that on our website. So, happy to entertain questions. Again, no changes since I was before you last. I would seek your approval. Do I have a motion to approve this item as presented? Motion to approve item as presented. Second. Questions or comments from the Board? I will now close discussion and call the questions. Suzanne Thomas? Yes. Sarah Parks Reiss? Yes. Ben Orr? Yes. Patricia Schooley? Yes. Dawn Lang? Yes. Tiffany Pascoe?
Yes. And I'm a yes. Thank you very much, Doctor. Kegley. We'll move on to you again for an information item 6.01, policy first reading. Yes. This is the first read, for policy 4.40, K4, which is public concerns and complaints, as well as k 4.02, which is public concerns and complaints about instructional materials and instructional resources. What we are proposing is that we would retire, K 4.02 and that language has been incorporated in four point zero zero so that all the
public concerns and complaints are under one heading. That is that information on those two items. And then k two and k 12. Two concerns gifts, donations to schools. And k 12 concerns, naming of grounds, facilities, etcetera. We are proposing to take k two point zero zero and combine it into k 12 so that it would result in gifts, donations and naming of grounds or facilities through sponsorship.
And we've condensed and included all the information from K-2.00 into K-twelve, as well as rewritten some of the spelled out language. It's all still there, but it's just in written paragraph form rather than bulleted out. These will happy to answer questions, but these will go to policy in December and then would be back here for our board meeting in December. I'm assuming that the procedures will have to be updated with that then too? Probably. Yes. Okay. We'll always tackle the policy and then we'll do the procedures in house.
Okay. Anyone else? Okay. We will now move on thank you, Doctor. Kegley. We will now move on to 6.02, Redistricting Recommendation, presentation by Brian Rausch and Andrew Bishop. While Andrew gets set up here, I do want to bring to your attention a couple of the more difficult items in the redistricting process. The first is our junior highs and intermediate schools. Three of the four of our junior highs and intermediate schools have capacities of 1,000, while we have one of 600. So that makes it very difficult when we consider our feeder pattern. So three schools will have a capacity of 1,000
and another of 600. So something to consider, and I've asked Andrew to highlight that in his presentation. The other is the neighborhood densities. The neighborhood densities have changed over time. We expect them to continue to change, but those densities also make things difficult when it comes to sending kids to the closest school or the one adjacent to their neighborhood. So I've also asked him to highlight that throughout his presentation. So Andrew? Thank you for having me again tonight. It's good to see you all. It's been about a month since I was last year. So as Brian mentioned,
we're going to go through that recommendation. We'll look at quickly look at some of the survey results and what the most preferred or least disliked option was and where we've arrived at. And as Brian mentioned, we'll look at some of these community considerations. So quickly when we last left off, we went over this time line. When we last talked, we had just finished that community outreach. We had done those community meetings, met with the public. Since then, we've been receiving e mails. We've couple of 100. I know you all have I've been cc'd on the same ones you have.
So I apologize. There are members in the audience who haven't received a response from me. It's just due to the overwhelming number that I have. I haven't been able to commit to that. But since that point, we have we met, we modified some of the options based on what we heard from people at those community meetings, based on some of the emails. So, you know, we're really trying to come up with a solution that best meets Hamilton Southeastern's needs and addressing some of the concerns of the community. So this slide here is just showing the results of the survey. So it was fairly close between Options two and three.
Option two was the least disliked. Option four was the most disliked. You can see right there. We had just under 2,000 respondents to the survey. And as you can see, a majority of them were affiliated with the schools in that Southeast area of the district. I will mention that someone who is affiliated with HSSE high may also have a student at the intermediate or the junior high school or at Southeastern. So those numbers, one respondent could be represented on multiple lines there.
So based on this, what we did was with option two being the least disliked, we used that as our base for our recommendation to then start looking at how we can make community considerations, make some changes to also address the district's needs because one of the shortcomings of option two was it provided the least kind of meaningful impact. It moved the fewest number of students and that may be why it was the most preferential is because it did the least to move forward. As someone said earlier, it's more of a Band Aid. And so we really tried to find that happy medium,
working off of option two, what the community preferred and then arriving at some solutions. So we'll get into the recommendation. This first slide, this is just option two as it was presented. So this is what the community had voted on. I want you all to see it so you can visualize what the changes look like. Some of the things we saw in option two was using 116 as that boundary for Fishers between Harrison Parkway and New Britain, taking the southern portions of Cumberland Road south of I-sixty 9 pushing that to Fishers,
using Promise as a boundary between Cumberland Road and Sand Creek. And then really as we extend north there on Promise taking that eastern portion of Harrison Parkway and moving all that into Sand Creek as well. And then as you look in the southeast quadrant in this option, Hoosier Road would have absorbed all of Geist boundary west of the reservoir. And then Geist would have absorbed the Boulder, Steeplechase, Ravinia subdivisions out of Southeastern. Thorpe would have absorbed some of that Southeastern boundary and then Fall Creek would have
kind of done the middle, taken some portions of Thorpe to balance things out. So this next slide will be the recommendation. So I can go back and forth if you want to visualize that. But we've done a lot of what we already saw in that West End. A difference here is as you look at that Cumberland Road, Sand Creek boundary, it doesn't extend all the way up Promise. So Hoosier Parkway does extend a little bit further east than we had intended, but there's no population in that boundary right now. And the idea is in this option with Hoosier Road being a little bit less
utilized as development fills there, they'll be assigned to that Harrison Parkway boundary. Excuse me if I said Hoosier Road. So the bigger difference is what you've heard from some of the people in community tonight is as we look into the Southeast quadrant, we still propose moving the majority of Geist west of the reservoir into Hoosier Road, but we don't propose moving the Breakwater Subdivision, which is or the Bridgewater Subdivision. That's right there at the bridge. They have an easy access to that school. They would have to transverse to other,
past a different intersection. So that was a consideration we had considered here. As you look at the Geist boundary on the east, we don't propose using moving Ravinia into the Geist boundary at this point. So Geist would absorb the Brooks or the Boulders And Steeplechase subdivisions and the Ochre Subdivision. And Thorpe Creek would absorb the majority of Southeastern along Southeastern Parkway there. And that includes the Ravinia subdivision and the Flat Fork subdivision there off of Connecticut.
So one thing that was mentioned with this option is when you look at Fall Creek in that bright pink, they where we had proposed moving along 113 and absorbing the intercoastal subdivision, This option the recommendation does propose moving a little bit south of the reservoir and taking a portion of that subdivision there with an outlet on the Florida Road. So that's one of the big differences here. Again, as you look at that Fall Creek boundary, that pink in option two, it had proposed splitting that Avalon Subdivision with Thorpe Creek being just on the outside
of that community. It had used a kind of a walking path power line utility easement as a boundary there. So this recommendation does keep that subdivision whole. And, the trade off is is it takes all those homes just to the north. I can't read the street right now, but, that little pink arm that extends, up to the north, that currently is all assigned to Thorpe Creek, but there's homes actively building there. And so the thought is we can get some of that new home impact out of that boundary and assign them to Fall Creek where we have some room and
set that precedent early with them. And then the other big change or change would be Brooks School. So Brooks School, before we had it, the boundary terminating at 116, we have proposed keeping that boundary running a little bit further south, keeping that Breakwater subdivision in that school. We heard from some folks in that community due to some specialized programming at Brooks School that it was important for students with disabilities in that community. So that was a change in the proposal or in the recommendation that we put forward.
And then so this next slide, this is just gonna show what the boundaries look like without those hatching. That those I didn't clarify the hatching on that last slide. Those are all the areas proposed to change. So this is just a cleanup map so you can see those whole boundaries, what they look like. And so as we come to the intermediate school boundaries, again, this is what option two looked like. And we heard some folks talk about this. So option two had proposed when we look at that Deer Creek boundary, really taking the established Deerpath neighborhood and the homes right around Deer Creek.
Some are already assigned to Sand Creek, so assigning the rest into a Sand Creek feeder pattern. And then it looked at the homes in the more rural part and really split along that Prairie Baptist Road. So homes on the West of Prairie Baptist would have been assigned to Fall Creek, homes on the East would have been assigned to HSE. Now what we heard from feedback, at least from what I heard from members of the community was, while we've taken the very populated portions of the Deer Creek boundary and they're either
assigned at Sand Creek or pushed more into Sand Creek. It leaves a large area but with fewer students assigned either to a Fall Creek or a hitch feeder pattern. And so that really takes small groups of students and starts isolating them at that next level where they're going into a big school with very few of their peers. And so what we had considered in this option in the recommendation was keeping that area the portion assigned to Sand Creek with the exception of the area
North Of 156. So again, that was the Silo Ridge and some of those subdivisions and we'll get to that in a minute. Keeping those all assigned at a Sand Creek and then taking the rest of the Deer Creek boundary and putting into a Fall Creek feeder pattern. Now the idea here is that with the areas that we're proposing to move to Sand Creek. So these are still high growth areas. There are still developments happening. The other areas of Sand Creek are older. And what we've seen in the district as a whole, as the communities age, we're not seeing as much turnover. And so we'll likely see fewer students coming into that Sand Creek boundary on that
West End. And so this is a way that we can continue to moderate or have moderate enrollment at that Sand Creek Fishers feeder pattern with some natural growth that's happening in that Deer Creek boundary. And then the likewise goes for Fall Creek. So when you look at Fall Creek, we have some areas around in Hoosier Road and Brooks School, areas where we have established families, established homes. There's not as much new residential opportunities happening there. So as those communities continue to age out their students, they may not be having turnover and they could be replaced with the new development
that will be anticipated in the portions of Deer Creek that aren't currently very developed. The other changes, so again, you'll see that little arm along 131, I think it is, that would fall into that Fall Creek feeder pattern as to keep a natural flow of elementary to intermediate to junior high. We didn't make any proposed changes on the West Side from what was proposed in option two. And so then the only other difference would be if you look at the Ravinia
subdivision since in this option we had proposed keeping it at Thorpe Creek, it stays there and the boulders and steeplechase communities are pushed into the Fall Creek feeder pattern. And so again, this slide will just show the boundaries without any changes. And as that community member said, yes, our maps don't show the boundary of Deer Creek north of 156 up there. And that was intentionally done here just given the dimensions of the district. It's hard to display everything visually.
So we really tried to focus to the greatest extent on where the bulk of the population is to understand these changes. So it wasn't intentional. That's why I did put those maps on the side so you can see the full scale of what we're considering. And so this is the, junior high school boundaries. So everything we talked about with intermediate schools is the same at the junior high schools. The boundaries would be identical, intermediate to junior high. Oh, sorry. Wrong button. So this again is that proposed junior high school boundary and then, this is that proposed boundary without the hatching on it.
And so this chart here, it's a lot of numbers. I apologize, but this is available. This shows what the current enrollment of each school is. So that's students currently attending the schools. And then the next column says proposed enrollment. That's the proposed boundary enrollment, the number of students who are residing in that proposed boundary. So we know right now that there are kids residing in Southeastern boundary that are having to be pushed to Fall Creek. And so when you look at a Fall Creek on this option, they're currently 91% utilized and they drop to 68%, I believe. And that's really a number of those students are already feeding into that school from
other boundaries because that's kind of our overflow school at this point. So what you see here is that in an option two, I think we had Southeastern at around 9594%, 95% utilized. We were able to bring that utilization down. In option three, we had none of our schools 90 over 90% utilized. I think our largest in Option three was 89% at Geist. And so we've kind of met a middle ground where we have we've created a room at Southeastern and Thorpe Creek. They're both at 90%,
91% utilized. This option does not propose splitting the Deer Path neighborhood. So that's why you see that remaining high utilization at Deer Creek. With our intermediate schools, so in junior high school, as you can see, we're right in the mid 90%. We've brought down that proposed utilization of Hamilton Southeastern. So right now, there's too many kids in the boundary for them to accommodate. They're over 100% utilized, and so we're able to bring that down, make sure that all of our schools can accommodate all the students in their boundaries. The other metrics on here, we won't go over them, but this is for your information.
SES is the socioeconomic status. So that's really just the percentage of the boundary population or the student population that would be receiving free or reduced lunch. E and L is the English as a new language learners. So you can see how those are impacted with these changes. And then IEP is obviously just the number of students on an IEP residing in each boundary. And so what I wanted to do next is I wanted to go over some of these community considerations. We've heard from some of the people here tonight and we will talk about some of these things.
So as Brian had mentioned, we have a density issue in the district. This map shows the current densities of students where the darker reds and yellows show the highest densities of students. So right in the center of the district, you see that kind of bright yellow. That's the Bristols and Tanglewood. That's between Brooks School and Fall Creek. Those are significant populations for those schools. But as you move east and you move East of O'Neill Road there, you see there's a big chunk of red right in the map. That's a huge swath of students right in Thorpe Creek. And then you see there's kind of five significant pockets or actually six significant pockets
of dense populations in Southeastern. You've got the one up there just kind of northwest of the school flag and you've got a little pocket right there along Southeastern Parkway and Florida Road. And then as you move to the South, you see there's a big pocket right there with the Boulders and Steeplechase, with Bridger Pines, with I can't remember all the names of communities right now. So I have them on my next slide. But they are numerous, and I'm trying to make sure I can navigate them all. But we do have a very dense pocket of population at Southeast with just a
very few schools who can accommodate them, really, between Thorpe Creek, Southeastern, and Geist. And so we're trying to find solutions that we can alleviate those schools without having to impact too many families. But I don't know for how far we are. The last pocket of population you see up there is Deer Creek in that Deer Path neighborhood. Again, the only meaningful way we can impact Deer Creek is really to split that subdivision. And so the recommendation right now is not recommending that. But, if the board so chooses,
that can be something that happens with your approval if that happens at the next board meeting. So Andrew, can you tell us that square just north of 156th Street at Deer Creek, it is the, square that is Bowdoin 156th And Summer. Can you give us that enrollment number? Yeah. Well, I have it on a slide here. Thank you. So first, I'm going to, I want to focus on this area. So this is right now what you see right now, these are the current boundaries. The light pink on the right side of the map is Southeastern. Purple on the bottom is Geist.
That light blue is Thorpe Creek. And Fall Creek is up there in the pink. And so we heard a lot from these three communities, Intercoastal, Woods At Geist Overlook, and Bayview Estates. And they have all expressed an interest to stay at Thorpe Creek. That's par for the course in one of these processes. People want to stay at their schools. They've built communities. They've built relationships and we understand that. And so what you see here is between these three communities, there's over 200 homes. We've got about 50 elementary kids. While that doesn't seem like a lot, 50 we can handle. When you look at that, if they want to stay at Thorpe Creek,
that's another 5% of utilization. So we're almost full at that point. And in order to accommodate those kids then we would have to do less to Southeastern. So it ends up being a little bit of a domino as we get to it. So again, this first map shows the current boundaries. This next map, so I utilized GIS software. I ran routing analysis on all of the roads. And what you see here is based on that is what the closest school is based on road networks. So when you look at where these communities are, all of Bayview Estates,
all of Woods and Geistler Look, and the majority of intercoastal just based on road networks, they are their closest school to travel to is Fall Creek. And so when we look at these considerations, when we look at our needs, these things come into play. When I'm making proposals or suggestions on how we can move students to improve transportation efficiencies, relieve overcrowding. So these are all things we look at. And so what you see on the next slide is this is what the proposed boundary looks like. So I'll just go back and forth.
So you can see closest school to the proposed boundaries. And I didn't clarify. But once you see those black outlines, these are what I call my planning units, my planning blocks. So these are the smaller puzzle pieces that I would propose moving in each option. And they tend to align with subdivisions as much as possible. And so the chart right there, that just shows the proposed enrollment with the recommended boundaries. So you can see with Thorpe Creek, if we were to keep those 50 kids in that boundary, we'd be at an enrollment of seven fifty five students with a capacity of seven
seventy five. So that's why that was considered as a move for Fall Creek, both you know, it alleviates Thorpe, and it is the closest school for those families. Do you have those slides for Bridgewater and Ravinia? Yes, I do. So this is that southeast portion of the district. Again, this is the current boundaries. And what you see here is these densities. So you got Flat Fork up there, two thirteen homes with 41 elementary kids, Vermillion four ten homes with 155 elementary kids. You got Bridger Pines in the Preserve with almost 400 homes,
another 130 students. Oakhurst is one of our smaller subdivisions and you're only 49 homes with 15 elementary students. And then you got Prescott and Ravinia up there, almost 40 elementary kids and then Boulders and Steeplechase with another nearly 150 students. And so these are the densities we're working with to really try and you know, get students out of Southeastern, but we're left with, you know, kind of limited options just based on proximity of other facilities. So we had a speaker who had a valid concern about it seems they're like,
every time they redistrict, this specific group is redistricted. Are we looking at making sure we're not constantly just redistricting the same group over and over again? That was, maybe an oversight on my part. I had not been part of the previous, redistrictings. And so, you know, I came in this with kind of a fresh look for myself. Right? And so I think one of the things I've learned from the community is, you know, understanding how other people have been registered so many times that probably could have helped me, but I think it also would have hindered me to come up with or handcuff me, so to speak,
into wanting to not impact certain people or, you know, like, taking certain options off the table. And so I understand, yes, that there are there have been a number of redistrictings that happened, and I'm hoping that with what we come up with tonight, that we can avoid that for the foreseeable future. Can you clarify, is this plan with the projected timeline of lasting ten years with the growth in Wayne District? I mean, I would like to address the questions and obviously the comments that we've had. I'm personally in Wayne District. Obviously, we have a lot of growth.
And I mean, just this Halloween, we gave out five zero six pieces of candy. Yes. And they have had a lot of redistricting. I think at least Sarah, correct me if I'm wrong, are we at six? Yes. Well, we redrew boundary lines for elementary schools last time, so it wasn't a full redistricting. Right. So I mean, I don't know that you can count that one necessarily either. But we've had a lot, right? Thank you. Yes. The way we get some meaningful impact right now for Deer Creek is to split that Deerpath neighborhood. And overwhelmingly what we heard from those folks was that,
that was not well received. And so in our recommendation, we proposed not to split that. What we do have in Deer Creek is we have a large lot of land, and we have the ability to to add on to that school. So, with what we're doing, if it's the board's decision to not move Deer Path, then that would be the next step is to plan for an expansion at Deer Creek probably within the next three to four years. Got it. Thank you. I appreciate it. So as we look at this slide, you can see these different subdivisions.
It's not my intention to split these homes as much as we can, so I want to keep subdivisions whole. When we look at the next slide, the closest school, you can see that for most of these subdivisions, Dice is the closest school. We had in some of our options in options three and four, we had proposed trying to get more of these subdivisions into Geist. But what that means is besides Geist having to give up the portion of its boundary west of the reservoir, we had also in those options proposed taking Geist West of Ollio,
so homes that are right across the street from that school, pushing them up to Fall Creek. And so, again, that was extremely unpopular with those families. And so we're trying to find a middle ground of using Geist to absorb some of these Southeastern kids without having to remove students who are so close to the school they can walk. And so this last option or the boundary map, this shows the recommended for all these subdivisions. You can see up there those two pink blocks. That's what one of our speakers was mentioning,
the change there. Again, that's a small number of students. So in the board's final decision, it may be recommended that they stay at Geist. Geist does have about an 85% utilization. So it can handle some additional students or not give up as many. So again, this is What neighborhood is it? Are you talking about 051? Yes. The two bright pink, blocks up there. And what neighborhoods are they? But not steeplechase. Not steeplechase. Correct. It's okay. I'm familiar. Thank you.
So this is the recommendation, but, of course, the board will make its final decision. Could I just ask one more question? And I think this got missed over because I had a lot of questions and points. How long is this redistricting plan for? Is this a ten year plan? Is this a what are you projecting? I'm hoping for seven years. Obviously, we have to see what happens with Wayne Township. As infrastructure starts to occur there, if it's if we see infrastructures building speeding up because that's kind of what's holding back some of that development, right? So as we see if infrastructure is continuing to build,
sewers, power lines are being brought, then that may kind of up our need there. But that would be a more focused look at maybe a Deer Creek, boundary as opposed to a district wide. Can you clarify again that Brightbank? The number of students, if you were to keep them down in the purple down to Geist, what would that do to utilization rates? If, the small number? The small number? The o five one and o five two. Yeah. So it'd be about 50 students. So, So I don't have my glasses tonight. But it would probably be another 5% utilization.
We'd probably be pushing around the 90% utilized in that school. And then we'd have less utilization at Fall Creek. Because that goes from it's at 89% now. Proposed goes to 85%, roughly another 5%. Okay. So it probably could handle it without affecting other because that's my concern is and like everyone else, we've all got these emails and we're trying to move puzzle pieces. Every time we move one, it upsets another group because we're trying to balance it. It's a dance. But you're saying that we could potentially do that one without affecting any other areas?
Correct. Okay. What it would do is it would keep like we talked about when we looked at the numbers though, Fall Creek already is kind of an underutilized school and they have a higher utilization because we're pushing kids in, right? As we're changing boundaries and Southeastern can accommodate those families and Thorpe can accommodate their families and Geist can accommodate theirs. And the growth is still going this way. So it does put us closer. It might knock down that seven year time frame to where somebody has to look at Geist Elementary at some point. But for now For now,
we should be able to handle it. And does that fee then to Fall Creek Intermediate and Fall Creek Junior High? Yes. So whether even though it's proposed for Fall Creek Elementary, it would stay in the highest, you can still go intermediate and junior high? Yes. The secondary schools don't change. Okay. And I assume all this already takes into consideration all the expansions and projects that are already in progress or close? Yes. Most of the development that's happening in the Southeast Quadrant is pretty much done. I mean, as far as the schools, like we're adding on to HIJH right now, Fall Creek is about to open.
Yes. So that's all in When you see those capacities, all that's reflected in that number, yes. That's not new. So Andrew, I do like to go back to what Tiffany, Ms. Pascoe was saying up at the Deer Creek one. When you go to the bottom one, please, of your plans and suggestions after when you're talking about let me get to them. It's your last one, the Highlands and Stony Creek, Summerlin, Turnberry, all that Silo Ridge. So we're not sitting here all night and all day going through all of this. If you could take those that small area and run that so they stayed at
Deer Creek where their elementary lines were and then moved them back to intermediate and junior high at Fall Creek Intermediate. I think that was what I'd heard that these parents and families were at were at, Deer Creek Elementary, but then being shifted to Sand Creek Intermediate and Fishers Junior High. And there was a lot of concerns. I know we've had a ton of e mails and we had a lot of presentation. I was at the high schools with you. And that was one of the big concerns from not just one, but several parents. And I do recall that on all of our recommendations,
we haven't seen a change to that. Now I know that we have a lot of growth that's going to be happening in Wayne Township. But if we could, between now and when we vote in December, at least see what that looks like and we can have those numbers given to us so we as a board can make a good decision with it in front of us of keeping them at Deer Creek Elementary because that's I think what the proposal was. But instead of sending them to Sand Creek and Fishers Junior High, seeing where they would land if we kept them at Salt Creek. And in those community meetings,
it wasn't so in this one, it's Block 4 that we had a speaker on North Of 156. So that was one of the changes that was made from the proposed option to the recommendation. What we heard in the community meetings was that Block 5. Right now, you can see there's 5 And 6. So we're sending kids right now in Deer Creek three different ways. Correct. And what's that green right now? So that green right now, they are currently at Hamilton Southeastern. No. I guess let's back up. I don't no offense to the current. I I would like to see what your go to the proposal.
Is it Jennifer or Jessica? Jessica. I and I and I that's kind of what I'm trying to say is if we can see what it looks like I mean, we don't have to do this all night because we'll be plugging in things all day. But if I would like to see the recommendation of it staying at Deer Creek and then seeing that at Fall Creek Junior High and Intermediate. As far as HIJH, we know per also Mr. Rausch is saying, it's clear HIJH only has 600 and some odd seats there that we know we're building. And as a realtor and I've said this a zillion times,
sorry, I'm saying it repeatedly, I know there's building plans out there for Wayne Township and even East on Fishers. And the growth is there that we have to move our seats to the West. We have to put butts in seats in different areas. And I'm looking at your map and you're showing some on here, which only had, 60% utilization on the West Side. So we know we're going to have to shift that to fill some over there. And yes, I'm going to speak for myself only. Of course, we want to take care of our parents and our families in the district.
But I, as a school board member, I'm looking at the whole package of costs, operations, bus transportation, community input and long term sustainability. And when you take that into account, we have to look at a bird's eye view coming in. And I personally, as a parent in the district, have raised four kids in this district that utilized several elementaries, junior highs, intermediates and high school. I have kids at Fishers and HSE, at HIJH, at HIJ, at Fall Creek, Fall Creek Junior High, Geist Elementary, Brooks School Elementary, Cumberland Railroad Elementary.
All of our schools in this district, and I want to just make this one point, we are HSE school district. We all use the same curriculum per grade. We have the same student handbooks at all of the schools. We have the same policies and procedures throughout the whole entire district, and we know we have phenomenal teachers. So no matter what school you are placed in, I feel in my heart and in my bones, your students will make great friends, have phenomenal educators and teachers and learning experiences along with having a great HSE education.
So fast forwarding, I empathize with you. I've raised four kids. I've been through redistricting four times. It's not fun. And we cannot please every single solitary family, but by golly oh goodness, by golly I will definitely try with my vote to take in consideration the the comments that we've received through email, through the discussions, through tonight's presentation because they are valid and they are important and they are meaningful to you, and I understand that. But please understand that through the whole entire process,
I'm just gonna be the blunt one saying this, every time someone speaks, it's I, I, I, me, me, me, my kids, my family. And I get it. But at the same time, we as a board up here, we're looking at 20,000 students and a zillion families. And what's cost effective, as you all know, we're in a budget deficit right now. So we have to look at operations, transportation and all of the things that go into play here. So please know that your voices are being heard, at least from me, and I'm really trying to put this puzzle together.
And I commend Andrew and his team and the administration for their super hard work, and I just wanted to get that out there. I will, make sure that I let you see that look as you guys are, mulling over your recommendation. Thank you. I appreciate it. Have we made it through your presentation yet? Pretty much. I'm just highlighting here, we've got Deer Creek. So again, some of the difficulties we see here, a lot of subdivisions that have happened, kind of we're talking about split feeder patterns here, some blocks going multiple ways.
So part of my decision making in looking at this area was its high growth. Sand Creek is that pink color. That's the closest school for them, at least at the intermediate level, not the junior high level. I understand with Fishers being a little bit further away, that's it's not the same when you get to that level. But with the fact that it's high growth, those areas being able to feed into a Sand Creek can help stabilize that boundary as homes on the West End experience less turnover. And then this is what we arrived at the recommendation. So,
again, you know, jumping up, I think that's Highway 38 up there, County Highway, using that as the the boundary there with a straight shot. So the area, Block 007 is already a Sand Creek, assignment. So we're just extending that north, into that corridor. And so again, that chart just shows the proposed utilizations with some of those numbers. And so lastly, one of the things we heard a lot about was grandfathering, especially concerns with parents and their students who are about to get into that last year at their schools. And so the proposal is to allow all current third,
fifth, and seventh graders to grandfather into their existing school if their boundary has changed provided that, one, forbearance, can provide transportation to the student and, two, that there is room to accommodate the student at those schools. We anticipate that there will be room, to accommodate them, but that's, the caveat. That was going to be my question. It's if you assume 100% of people would sign up for that, could we accommodate it? I would have to run the numbers and check it. I think if we could get that information to you,
that would be great. I'll make sure that when we provide the district with an update with the additional information, I provide that information as well. So if I may finish up my the rest of my comments. Mine would be, when this Board is looking at this whole process, is I'm so glad to see grandfathering is added here at the bottom, but also that we look at special circumstances. I mean, there are and again, I can only speak for myself. When we were redistricting and my son was in third grade and his father had just passed away.
And it rocked our world, and there was no way I was going to change his school district. And I had to appeal. And quite frankly, I was turned down the first time, so I had to do it again. And it did go through, but we had I had to drive my child from third grade all the way through eighth grade. And it's a commitment, but it was worth it for him and our family at the time. So I encourage our district as a Board and our administration to make sure that we consider special circumstances. And it's not just my best friend is at another school,
but legitimately, there are going to be families that have 504s or IEPs or special circumstances with their family. And I'd encourage people in the administration, I think I don't want to over speak, but I think there's already a special circumstance situation available that you as a family and a parent just have to write in and do. But I think the first thing is our step is to get the district lines cemented and completed. And then the second part of that other than grandfather and special circumstances is to
ensure that we do stay high school choice. I do know in a lot of the documentation that we've read that it would be a tremendous we'd have to do a whole another redistricting in high school if we just if we switched out of Choice. So I'm hoping and staying confident that the high schools will stay Choice for those parents and families that are hit by the redistricting, but want to stay at a certain high school. So hopefully, that stays into play. And then lastly, to point out for the Board and administration to look at is we just recently
opened our borders, which has been really tremendously helpful for our enrollment. But I hope that we take a sincere and respectable look at family members first that are currently existing in our district that, if they happen to be redistricted, that they will be able to look at entering that school, that they originally wanted to stay at before we turn all those requests down and open the borders for other outside students to attend. Those would be my concerns for this Board to look at.
Thank you very much. Any further questions? I have lots of questionscomments. I thought it was going away. First, I just want to say I was in not the audience but out in the community seven years ago when we did a full redistricting. And I looked up my emails to the Board, and they were scathing. So I want to apologize to those Board members and say, I'm now in your seat. And Michelle, you were probably one of them at the time. I knew it would not be an easy process,
but it is it is really like you're given all these options that just all look terrible. I mean, to be honest, like, they're just they're just all terrible. Here's one terrible option. Oh, look. Here's another terrible option. Great. Which one do we choose? Because here's kids we're gonna move, and here's more kids we're gonna move, and here's a neighborhood we're gonna split. And we don't wanna split a neighborhood, and here's this neighborhood that really doesn't wanna move, and we're getting literally 100 emails from this one neighborhood.
It's it's it's wow. So I just wanna say sorry to that board. But, also, when I wrote the board, I first wrote them the same thing is happening again. I wrote them based on something that wasn't happening to my neighborhood. It was happening somewhere else. And I was like, wow. I really don't like that feeder pattern. I really don't like how they're crossing over. I really think you should fix that. And so then what happened was a fourth option came out of nowhere,
presented to the board, just like happened last night today, and people were like, where did this come from? And that's what happened, and it affected my neighborhood. And so all of a sudden, my neighborhood got redistricted and crossed those boundary lines. And suddenly, Deer Path was going to Sand Creek Intermediate and fall, Fishers Junior High when that wasn't on any of the plans before. And so then it happened. And I was like, wait. This is what I just emailed the board about and said was terrible, and it wasn't even affecting me.
And now it's affecting me. And so I sent another scathing email, and and, you know, I got a very nice response from the president of the board at the time that was very understanding, and and I appreciated the response. It didn't fix it, and that's what they voted on. And that's the path my my daughter followed and is still following. But she had high school choice, and she's chosen to continue on that feeder pattern and not go back to I asked you what you were doing now. No. You didn't ask me what I'm doing here.
Sorry. Phone's going off in here. But, she she didn't choose to go back to Hamilton Southeastern. So I was hoping that when we did this full redistricting that we could fix kind of that cross feeder pattern, but that doesn't look like we're something we're gonna do. So I'm I I do hope that we do keep, high school choice as Suzanne has indicated that that really needs to be something that stays in place, for however long we keep this district pattern. But I want to address Jessica and the other people that spoke for those two
thousand and five and two thousand and six patterns up there with Turnberry and Silo Ridge and those other communities and echo Suzanne's comment that I'd like to see what kind of those estimates might look like if we kept those neighborhoods and those what do you call them? Your packets? Yeah. Planning units. Yeah. Planning units, going to to Fall Creek and, Fall Creek and Fall Creek. Right? They're both called Fall Creek. That, feeder pattern, just because, I'd like to see what those options are.
We have been inundated. And I don't know if I have been more than the rest of the board because I've definitely gotten individual emails just because I am in Wayne Township. And so, I've been tagged on Facebook. Like, they're they're coming for me because that's my area. And so I don't blame them. I would be too. Like, hey. You said you were gonna represent us, and so I'm here to represent them. Okay. So, I really wanna make sure that, Jessica, I do hear you. And I'm,
don't respond maybe to your email if you email the whole board because the board president is supposed to do that. So, if you email me individually, I do try to respond to emails, and that goes to more than just Jessica. But, and I did respond to just one this morning. But as mister Bishop indicated, we have also been inundated with emails too, so it is kind of hard to keep up with them. But I wanted to say all that. I also wanted to ask about the socioeconomic data, and this may be more a question for administration
and how some of those numbers affect any of our Title I funding? They shouldn't impact our funding. Our funding is what it is, and it's how we designate it and allocate it that is the important piece there. So, like Harrison Parkway going down won't necessarily impact their It could impact services in that building, yes, in lieu of those services going to a higher in a higher SES area. So until our boundary is settled and we know what those numbers are,
then we'll have to examine where we allocate those needs. We have two title one schools right now, Cumberland Road and Harrison Parkway. And, if memory serves, we have a tie on this list I thought we did. Harrison Parkway is at 39, and oh, I'm looking at current. I'm sorry. Yes, Harrison Parkway, Fishers and Sand Creek. Sand Creek definitely goes up. Yes, it does for sure. Yes. So I mean, I guess, I'm just questioning, will we still have two Title I schools? Do you think we'll still get the same amount of Title I funding from the
state? Like I worry about that. Yes. I don't the amount we receive from the federal government is a defined amount. And again, it comes back to we could say all of our schools are Title I schools, but we wouldn't have the money to service all of them at a level. So our choice is to highlight or serve the ones that are of the highest percentage. So again, we'd go back and we have had to do this before. I want to say ten, fifteen years ago, Durbin was a Title I school. And over time,
that went away and went to Harrison Parkway and to Cumberland Road. So we have had to make these types of adjustments in the past. Okay. So we don't have too many concerns about shifting. Not too many. Okay. And then, I asked Mr. Bishop when I had my one on one call with him last week. But I just want to talk about it a little bit for the public and then maybe it's a question for administration too. Option one that was taken off the table had an early learning center kind of
taking over elementary school and an elementary school coming offline and all those kids being moved elsewhere. That plan was scrapped. From my understanding, due to community pushback. The community, though, tells me that it was really their pushback was that there wasn't a full plan, that it didn't feel like there was information on, how much that would cost to renovate the building or or really, flushed out ideas on how to implement that plan. So but that's not my question.
My question is, now that we have not that plan and a tentative kind of recommendation in place, we have some schools with lower utilization. Are we looking at specifically thinking like Harrison Parkway or some of the others that are in the lower 69% to 70%? Are we looking at, having multiple locations of preschool and expanding our preschool program to also expand revenue streams? The answer to that is yes.
Short the short answer is once we have a plan in place for where their boundaries will be, then that's exactly where we'll go to start to examine where we may be able to provide those services to employees first and then the greater community after that. Perfect. And I think that's all my questions because everything else was really answered through your presentation. So thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. Thank you very much. We'll move on to 6.03, new course proposal, Mr. Urban. Members of the Board, Mr. Mapes, I present to you 23 new course proposals at the high school level for the
'twenty 06/2007 school year. I think it's probably best to classify these changes by rationale. And so if we can put up that slide, that's probably the best. Majority of these changes really result in completing CTE pathways. So a CTE pathway is a principal's class, a concentrator a, a concentrator b, and a capstone class. There are eight new pathways that we can fully complete by adding courses. You'll see in parentheses there, so that rationale, CT pathways,
some of them need three classes, some of them need one, some of them need all four to complete them. But 20 of the classes that I'm bringing to you are to complete these CTE pathways. And the reason we're picking these is either student interest. We feel like these are truly areas that, are gonna be high demand areas for for our students' future. Can I ask you a question while you have that slide out? Help me understand how one pathway has only one class. Because we already have the other classes in that pathway approved, and we're offering them. These are just new ones we're bringing in.
In. Thank you. Cybersecurity, we're already providing all except for the the capstone. So then the other classes I'm I'm bringing to you have to do with requirements that we just have to lift to get ready for the new diploma. So introduction to public service, which is a requirement for the enlistment honor seal, so our students who are going into the military and want to get that highest seal, part of that requirement is an introductory course to public service. And so that class now exists in the Edmond platform, and we want to start making that available and bring that on as a new
class. Additionally, if you remember what I presented to you last time, nearly every one of the honor seals requires some work based learning component. And so we need to get creative on how we count and see work based learning. And so part of that will be through part time jobs. And so the course that allows that is employability co op. And so we need to bring that on to make our students eligible for that. Additionally, if we look at some of the other diploma seals and honor diploma seals, especially in the employment honor seal,
credentials of value are important. And so if we bring on a business management capstone, that will allow us to offer an Ivy Tech credential of value for that diploma option. The class of 2,030, so the current eighth graders, when they go through the new diploma, you know, remember this year, the freshmen are taking a freshman seminar first semester. A part of the new diploma is a communications course. And our high schools have been very creative and they believe that it would, of creating a speech class that just is the companion course for that freshman year.
But it's not traditional speech class where, as it exists now, but we would bring the network model into that and then really think about, okay, if you're interested in this field, what kinds of communication are relevant to that field? So our teachers have some great ideas, administrators have some great ideas to bring that along, and that's something we'd like to lift for next year as well. So that would accomplish communication for focus course, which is a requirement of the new diploma. Additionally, in talking to our administrators, they feel very strongly about the idea of providing
the new diploma for our current sophomores, rising juniors. And the rationale for that is that it just expands more honors options for our students. Currently, there's only two honors options in our current diploma. There are six honors options in the new diploma, and some of those honors options don't even exist. When we talk about enlistment, when we talk about employment, it would allow us to bring those on. What you see next to those and part of my rationale at the bottom there is these are just creative ways that if some of those required classes for the
new diploma don't fit in their schedule that we can combine some classes together and get some of these diploma requirements accomplished in new creative ways. Can you please repeat that one more time? Sure. The one sentence because it was going to be a question later, but you're speaking it now, so you want it clearly, that we are not removing honors. We are actually, if we're putting the sophomores in there, they're getting more opportunities. More opportunities to earn an honors designation under the new diploma. You're saying fully with what you just said. Yes. So their current diploma is only two,
technical honors and academic honors. And with the new diploma, there are six honors designations. So not taking any honors away, just giving an opportunity for more possibilities. Correct. Thank you so much. Yep. And so, in doing that, additionally, one of the things that we will do, and this may not be super popular with our students, but it's it's needed to provide maybe a little bit more relevance to this experience, is requiring a work based learning component of Senior Flex. So if you're going into Senior Flex,
requirements right now are four college level classes your senior year. So to do that going forward, you would need to have accomplished seventy five hours of work based learning. Remember, that can be done in a part time job, with a training plan and relationship with the school district, or it can be done, you know, through an internship, all different ways. Or as part of your flex, you're accomplishing those seventy five hours, okay, to make it more relevant. And, obviously, we want that tied to their post secondary goals. So that would be something we would bring in as well.
The last thing that we're doing, and I don't know how much you've heard about this, but the state board will be approving by December a new accountability model for the schools, which will require schools to get letter grades again. And in that accountability model, at the junior high level, in addition to showing academic proficiency on iLearn, one of the ways students will earn points is by accomplishing high school credits at the junior high. Last starting this year, we have our computer foundations class that's being accomplished at the junior high.
To really earn those points, you have to get two credits at the junior high. Either you can get it in seventh grade, you can get it in eighth grade. For more students to be able to accomplish that, we really do need to move another high school credit down to the junior high. We've been working with administration and talking to teachers about what seems to be the most appropriate without really changing the junior high experience. Initially, when I when I published this presentation, we were talking a lot about health because the standards were very similar. And we thought, you know, that's one of our most popular classes at the high school to take online already.
So we have over nearly 800 students that take it online. But in those conversations and talking to administrations of both schools, PE may be the class that we move to the junior high. And the reason being is just, there was just a really compelling argument made about parts of that health curriculum, the mental health component, human sexuality and relationships, that still need to exist in some way at the high school level. And so PE seems to it really in the year long wellness class that's going on in the eighth grade,
they can work that p the PE standards into that. So we'll work with teachers to do that. Again, these are all just presented for information tonight, and I'll come back to you in December for approval. Well, then I would appreciate just a tiny bit of clarity. Yep. So to me, there's a when people say PE in the high school level, they can do anything from swimming to weights to volleyball to sports recreation, whatever. Yep. So are you seeing with the new pathways or requirement that's needed with the state that a student doesn't have to if if we move it if if we move
it to junior high, that they won't be required on any of those tracks to have any physical activity in the high school level? Am I understanding you correctly? So the new diploma requires one goes from two credits to one credit in physical education. Regardless of their pathway? Regardless of their pathway. That's a diploma requirement for the new diploma. Is one is that one semester or one semester? Semester. Yep. So one semester is one whole entire high school. That's all that's required. Okay. Just to ask just clarity. Yep. Okay. So so current freshmen are under that rule right now.
Okay. And so what we are proposing, because the state accountability, which is the letter grades that all our all our schools are gonna get I understand. Mhmm. One of the ways students earn points towards that letter grade is accomplishing high school credits in the junior high. They have to get two high school credits by grade, seventh grade or eighth grade, the way it stands right now, to earn points towards that letter grade. Right now, we have computer foundations in eighth grade, which is another required high school credit semester Class I credit. What we're proposing is moving physical education,
so PE1, into the eighth grade to get that second credit. So then they would accomplish that in the eighth grade. Then I might be asking an elephant in the room question. What happens to all the physical activity classes that we currently have in high school? Are we then going to condense those and have less offered on our when they have student class choices, are we condensing then all the high school PE? And maybe we're already doing that and I don't know it yet. We're definitely rethinking high school PE. And again, we have to think about what is relevant. And so we're doing a lot more lifelong fitness,
elective PE courses. And so that's been developed at both high schools and talking to teachers, that's their focus. In addition, we're bringing in exercise science as a CTE pathway as well, which a lot of students are interested in that are so many of our teachers will qualify as well. Definitely expanded the number because before, a lot of freshmen couldn't go into the weight room right away. They had to have that PE credit first as a prereq. They're going right into the advanced weights right now. So more of a wellness perspective, is that going along that exercise science? So there'll still be some activity classes for people to choose from?
Absolutely. Yes. We still have elective PE. We're still going to have to offer PE for move ins and students that don't get it. So that'll still be offered in addition to what we're offering now. Thank you for clarifying. I imagine they were probably already rethinking some of it because if you only need one credit and you could get it right now through sports or marching band or thing like things like that. So they're they didn't even have to necessarily take a class, which brings me to my next question. How how does that affect that?
They no longer would have, like, they wouldn't have the opportunity to opt out of that in eighth grade if they participated in a sport to get high school credit for PE? Correct. Correct. Yeah. We haven't we haven't finalized that, but I wouldn't assume that there would be a need for that. Okay. Anyone else? Okay. Thank you very much. We'll move on to 7.01, superintendent report. I've had a lot of things going on in the District since our last Board meeting. Some very exciting things. First of all, we had our first ever Hamlin Southeastern High School Girls Soccer State Championship Team as
they defeated Carmel in the State Championship. From that team, Blair Satterfield was named the Teresa Wynne's Mental Attitude Award winner for Class 3A. And later that next week, our head coach, Greg Davison, was named coach of the year for 3A across the state of Indiana. Yes, thank you. I want to give a shout out to the Hamilton Southeastern Education Foundation and the City Of Fishers for the teacher grant awards that they've made over the last three weeks. Just once again, a great partnership that'll give our kids unique opportunities within the classroom and the dollars
that they raise to invest in our school system. So thanks to both HSE Education Foundation and the City Of Fishers. We had 13 of our schools designated by the Department of Education as Purple Star Schools, serving military families and supporting military families who live within our school district. We hope to have more added to that list, but that was one of the goals that we had was to start making certain we had that Purple Star designation. So I want to congratulate those 13 schools. Another unique thing, Mike Johnson, our school safety officer,
had the first ever student school safety committee. And, in this room a few weeks ago, we brought our students in to get their perspective of school safety, why they feel safe, things that they have concerns about, and that committee will continue and be part of our building of our overall school safety plan. Last thing was today at, at both actually, at Himmel and Southeastern High School, both schools participated in freshman class in a career fair. And it was a very successful career fair for our freshmen to start exploring to make certain the networks that they're choosing is a path that they want to go,
and we hope to add some more, vendors to that next year as we continue this process. So, thanks to all the teachers, administrators, who make certain that those things happen in our school. Thank you. All right. Board member reports, we'll start with Suzanne at the end. I would like to speak regarding the Hamilton Southeastern Foundation. We the announcement that is made is, number one, for our students, the HSE Foundation is pleased to again offer more than 40 community scholarships for the Class of twenty twenty six seniors at both high schools.
So please visit hscfoundation.org/scholarships to learn more and apply. So it's open right now, and I can tell you that it's a it's a phenomenal how many scholarships that we give out. So please, please, apply for those if you are a senior twenty twenty six. From staff, it says HSE Foundation's ideas with Impact Grant application is now open. All staff across HSE schools are eligible to apply for grant funding through midnight December
18 to apply for this hsefoundation.org/grants. And to piggyback on what Mr. Mapes had just said, the foundation just gave out over 77,000 in grants to some of our very deserving teachers. So congratulations to them. And last, don't miss our unforgettable night of unforgettable night with Blues Traveler and Gin Blossoms. They will be performing live at the Fishers Event Center on Friday, 02/20/2026.
All proceeds from that event help support HSEF programs, including innovative teacher grants, student scholarships, mental health, and student wellness initiatives across all grade levels in our HSE school district. So tickets are on sale now through Ticketmaster and at the Fishers Event Center ticket office. So that is your update from your foundation. I just wanna say to the community members that weren't able to speak tonight, if you would like to email at least me, or other board members,
what you plan to stay say tonight, I'd be happy to read your statement. I'd agree with Sarah that anybody who has anything to address to the Board, certainly, our e mails are available, and we do read all those. So as you can imagine, there's many difficult things going on in the District right now. So it's a lot to get to. But speaking for myself, I try to respond to all of those. So thank you, everybody, for bearing with us. No other report. So I'll do the committee stuff first. As you noticed, most of the committee a policy committee meeting were just for medical changes.
It's been a long meeting. Sorry about this. Our next meeting is on December 3 at 07:30AM. I wanna thank the community members who did come out and speak. I would For our board to have consistency when we are gaveling people because we had a lot of new people who came out to speak tonight, and that does reflect poorly on our communication with the community. So please email us. Please follow-up. We do care about your comments. We do care about this community. We wouldn't be here if we didn't. Thank you. I also echo the comments of fellow Board members in wanting to read and listen to, those concerns in the community. We do read those. We do
those concerns in the community. We do read those, we do receive those. So just know that we, they do come across our radar. Also, I wanted to make note of the Finance Committee meeting. Next one is coming up on December 3. Also, I want to highlight, Project HOPE that is, funded by the Hamilton Southeastern Education Foundation. It's a wonderful opportunity and it's a scholarship to help out mental health, for students in Hamilton Southeastern Schools that are not able to access those services, due to financial reasons or economic downfall due to their family circumstance.
There's also community supporters that also help with that as well, including, the rotary, which I know that I'm a member of and so is Suzanne Thomas, here in Fishers. So we're very proud of that support that the rotary also provides. So for those that are not familiar with Project Hope, look it up online. And if you do find yourself in a financial situation that you do need access to those resources, know that there is solutions available to you and your family. Thank you. Regarding maintenance and facilities, we're pretty excited. Every meeting we find out that we're saving more and more dollars, and so we wanted to have,
a spreadsheet that actually shows that with the running total and to make that more visible for the community. So that's been being worked on and updated as we go, which is pretty amazing to show those incremental savings that we're having as we go. Also, there are a lot of members who signed up that did not get to speak, but there's also a lot of members who signed up that did not list a topic to speak on. So I just, again, just wanna go through the formalities. You have to list what part of the agenda you're actually speaking on, and then you get if on task, you stay within the time limit, and there should be no mention of names.
We had some of that happen tonight, and we kinda let it go. I just wanna be respectful to both parties and both sides. And thank you for everybody who had their participation. Also, thank you for doctor Albright for running an efficient meeting as well, because there were a lot of topics to cover and get through. Thank you, everyone, for coming. And again, anyone who wanted to provide information on a topic that was not on the agenda, please feel free to email us. We will be happy to read those and certainly to respond. So thank you for coming, and we will join the meeting.