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Good evening and welcome to the July 13, 2026 meeting of the Hammond Select Board and Board of Health. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> We're meeting at the townhouse in the second meeting room. We are broadcasting the meeting on Zoom plus recording it. Is there anybody else recording the meeting? Okay, seeing none,

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first item on the agenda are minutes. So, we have minutes of June 15th and June 22nd. Uh it's just the two of us. Our our third select person, select board person may join us later as work permits.

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Who's doing these? You, Ruth, or AI? >> Okay. >> See, uh, the 15th and 22nd are looks fairly complete. Really? We did a lot of stuff. I remember a couple things on the 22nd.

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The summarization of the age thing, etc. is was well done. >> I'm still on the 15th. >> Move approval. >> You want bigger font? >> Move approval. >> Second. All those in favor?

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>> I. >> Okay. Now, now we're on to the 22th. Okay. meeting. >> Oh, this is this is the uh the joint meeting, right? >> Oh,

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>> no. >> Oh, it's up. >> Yeah. And then we have H discussion liquor transfer. waiting for ABC, right? >> Yep. >> Yes. I want to say um when I saw them

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Saturday night at the rock in the summer event, they still had not received an answer back from ABC on their transfer. >> They closed out the the record issued. >> They do, we'll get notified and we can give them >> right committee.

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We still on page two. >> This is page five. >> He does a complete job. >> Yeah. >> Approval. >> Second. All in favor? >> I.

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>> Okay. At the end of the meeting now. >> Well, we have before us the uh town treasurer. Welcome, Mr. >> Thank you, John. >> Thank you for coming. Okay,

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we asked uh Dix to come in and continue our discussion about health insurance costs and if there's and the board has talked about and thank you for the email which was just handed to us. So is there an opportunity for the

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Scanic Valley Health Trust to engage with the carriers to see if different changes to the plans can be offered so as to and I shared before in my personal business uh every year we're faced with the opportunity that either

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we accept the increase which can be double digits or do we moderate it somehow by changing a co-pay or deductible etc. and is you go to the meetings. Is that ever a topic of discussion at the meetings?

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>> First, a little background. Um, we don't buy insurance. We self-insure through this trust. >> Uh, the Scanning Valley Regional Health Trust is six government entities. It is uh Hammond, Wilberham,

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East Long Meadow, Long Meadow, the school district and Lower Pioneer Educational Collaborative, the bus company. >> The school districts has in East Lo and Long Meadow as well or no? >> No, they don't have regional school districts. They have towns. There's six units. So, Hampton and Wilberham. I'm

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sorry. East L includes their school me, >> right? Our school district has separate government. >> No, no, but that was what I meant. It includes >> I understand. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. And then the educ the bus company. >> Mhm. >> Is those six government units. We have a consultant that manages this

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for us. And um we hire the various insurance companies. Blue Cross, HNE, um Harvard Pilgrim and TUS also are uh some people use although they've now

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merged. Hammond doesn't offer them. and they manage the insurance program for us and we collect the premiums and pay them the actual claims. So um and then we buy a self- insurance for people with very large claims.

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Anybody any individual over 150,000 we reinsure somewhere else. So, our rate setting has nothing to do with Blue Cross or H&'s policies at all and how they they structure it. And yes, we

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do have um some flexibility on what we cover and what we don't cover. For instance, the carriers suggested that um GOP ones for weight loss were getting to be ridiculous. And so as of last July 1st,

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none of our policies carry those. Um there there's been other similar decisions, but they're all on the fringes, that type of thing. When I got on this when Pam conned me into taking this

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representative job 16 years ago, um the uh health trust had quite a bit of money in the bank. They run a um they run they want to have um some money set aside. It is 12% of the previous 12

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months claims which right now at our current rate spend rates about $4.3 million. When I first got on it, there was an extra half a there was extra $5 million in there. Hamn is about 10% of the trust when I look at the premium

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income that comes in. So, of that $5 million, half a million of it was our money. >> Mhm. >> Um, I have endeavored to spend that money by reducing rates, returning it to the town for the last 15 years.

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You notice in boards like that where they have a nest egg, they they tend to like to keep it. >> So, every year the insurance companies would say, "Oh, it's going to go up 8%." And I say, "No, I don't think so." So, we'd have a 3% rate increase. Well, it's going to cost us a million and it

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didn't. It finally caught up with us in the last two years. We've been our uh rate increases have been well below the averages in the industry, certainly below GIS >> and um but last year for the first time

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we really took a pretty hard hit. Um we're running at a claims at about 120% of premiums. So that's why we ended up with a a net of about 11% increase this year. I was shooting for 10. That 11's

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the best deal I could get. U and we're actually now as of the last report, we are actually about 245,000 below the 4.3 million for reserves, but we're now into a little higher premium

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rate. So, there's a few opport there's a few opportunities available. There's some things we could vote to change the plan. Um, the the email that I sent out forformational purposes talks about deductible plans versus the

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non-deductible plans. >> I'm pretty sure that East Long Meadow has the deductible plan and there's a little bit of savings there. Um, not huge. It's amazing how much smaller the premium is. You know, when you look

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at an individual having a $2,000 medical deductible and a $3,000 prescription deductible, and they're they're only going to save, you know, less than $1,000 a year. >> Um, they have to be pretty healthy to win on that one. So, but that is certainly a possibility that we could go

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to next July to shave those costs up. I mean, honestly, >> well, it's not so much us. I'm thinking more for the school district which is obviously a much larger percentage which would pass down into their budget >> right from their standpoint. >> Yeah, they're they're much they're a much larger group. I don't know their

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numbers but remember we only get 20% of those savings you know so they it'd be it'd be proportional. Um, >> and of course totally different on the retiree end as well because that's a whole different ballax with the two different things they have to

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>> retirees who are rap >> retirees that are 65. You're absolutely correct. Right. >> There's a we have an H& plus and a medic plus. >> We have a number of of early retirees

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less than 65 who get their 20 years in. Mhm. >> Take your average police officer. They can go at what 5055 and we have to pay their insurance for life. So we're paying full vote on them until they hit 65. >> Right. >> The other thing that came up is I heard

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secondhand it was actually from Michelle and some of the people at the school were asking why we don't have a u a lowcost low value policy for healthy young people. Mhm. >> Um something like a signate type thing that

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they sell on the internet and we had um the trust had looked into it at the bus company's request a couple of years ago and it really didn't go anywhere. I brought it up again in in uh in May or June, our last meeting. Um, the

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consultants were telling me that a national company like Sigma isn't interested in Massachusetts Municipal Insurance because our regulations are different than what they can sell on a national level. However, we are going to start looking at seeing if there is a

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lowcost less value >> option that we could offer young healthy employees. You know, your average 25 year old doesn't go to the doctor as much as I do, >> right? >> You know, so, you know, they're they're really looking for the catastrophic. It will probably take us six months to get

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the answer to that question. We meet it next in September and they're going to see what is available in that option. I don't anticipate it as being anything we force people into, but there might be

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some people who would choose that, save themselves some money. So that's another one we're looking at. >> Okay. Well, the other thing, you know, we talked and you mentioned you had Harvard Pilgrim as one of your options, but right now, for instance, the family plan we're paying for is 1,500 a month,

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you know, and I'm sure looking at here >> with who? >> Harvard Pilgrim. >> Really? >> Yeah. Because again, what we've had to do with deductibles, co-pays, out of network, the whole thing, you know, it seems like every year there's another adjustment that helps us with that the

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bill we're getting in. >> Yeah. The policy becomes lower value. >> Yeah. Oh, sure. But >> yeah, um the I did the toughs in the Harvard Pilgrim stuff that was that I was seeing on the rate chart wasn't wasn't any better than H& Cross,

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>> right? because again the same thing their their coverage is so much better if you will >> was that that was an HMO policy I assume the Harvard one you're talking about >> um if you can get me some data on that I can ask why

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our pool looks so much different than your pool >> you have all young healthy employees is that it >> I would say our average age is probably around 80 >> but again and uh we go through hub you know Tim Marini and those guys Yeah. >> So, well, you know, like I said, if you

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can give me some comparison data, then I can uh I'll send it off to consultant and see if you can come up with a good reason why. >> Um, like I said, compared to the other things like GIS, I know we've been doing very well. >> But we've been subsidizing a little over

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the last few years and that's gone unless we have a really I'm hoping we're going to have a good year. >> Yeah. >> I do remember the free months every now and then back in the day. >> Yeah. Um I I I got rid of premium holidays um about 10 or 11 years ago and went for

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just lower rate increases. Uh premium holidays caused consternation among the employees when suddenly insurance isn't being deducted if you drop me >> because we don't really have a good way to communicate what's going on there. Um

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and you know it's kind of like giving somebody a bonus instead of a pay raise. It just hits you harder the next time. Okay. >> All right. So, you're going to do some investigation. >> We're working on it, but I don't expect to have a lot of good answers, at least until hopefully before budget season

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starts. >> When's your next meeting? Your next September. >> So, explain to me again, we pay a print. We pay we give you money and you do >> Who in this case? >> The town. >> The uh Yeah.

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>> town gives the Scantic Valley money. >> Money. >> And what do they do with it? they put in the bank and they hire our consultants and they hire the various insurance companies to manage the policies. So, it is fairly seamless

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to me with my Blue Cross card here that it's a trust and not uh buying insurance. Um, so Blue Cross, we send Blue Cross a guesstimated amount every month on what what the payments will be and then every quarter we square up with

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what the actuals are, >> you know, uh the uh so we're paying the actual claims in the end. >> Okay. So, so if I have a claim of $250,000

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for some kind of surgery, >> $150,000 of that is going to be paid by the trust and the other 100,000 is going to be paid by our reinsurance company. >> And we we pay premis the reinsurance company, too. >> Right. We buy a catastrophic coverage

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there for for those of us likely to run up a $250,000 bill. Um, so >> can the can is ham and does everyone have the same policies >> other than Well, there's the four

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carriers. >> Yeah. >> And there's the deductible and non-deductible plans on some of the carriers, but everybody has the same rate. East Long Meadow pays exactly the same for a policy that we do. And like I

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said, Eon Meadow is I believe that they are on the deductible plan. So, you know, they're paying a little bit less, but recharge. >> I guess I guess what I'm asking D is if we if we decide we want to go to the non-deductible plan, the deductible plan. We're going to go the deductible. >> Who makes that could just do it? We

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don't have to worry about the region, right? >> No, we could do we could do that on July 1st of any year. Yes, we could. >> Who makes that decision? >> Our board. You're as treasur. Who makes the decision? That's an excellent question. I would say that's an HR

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problem. >> We don't have it. >> Yeah, we do. >> Okay. >> Um, yeah, what we offer for benefits is above my pay grade. All I do is the make sure the numbers work.

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>> I don't Yeah, I'm not in charge of that. I mean, when B when we changed the U life insurance, that was your decision, >> right? Okay. Yeah. >> So, Hampshire County had a similar thing. >> Yeah. >> And eight of the towns went to GIC.

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>> Yeah. They were having real problems with how their how their program was managed. >> Yeah. That was ugly. Um my consultants who obviously want want us to like them and pay them uh say that we're, you know, we're doing much better than most.

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>> We've had some towns express interest. uh Southwick a few years ago, Lello a year or so ago wanting to join our group. >> First thing we got to do is make to vet them and make sure they're healthy. You know, they're not bringing in a lot of negative experience.

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Um we also we have um a fairly reasonably priced health and wellness person, >> you know, who tries to make people healthier. We figure there's some savings there. Um, we have a a diabetes

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program. Um, diabetes is an insidious disease and for the bean counters it's even worse I think because diabetics have such health problems. We have a compliance program there that people can enroll in and they can get free insulin

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and stuff and it's driven claims down for the people that that are uh that are doing that. We have a a for Canadian drug program that saves us a couple hundred thousand dollars a year even on the just a few hundred people that are

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using it. >> So we do take some initiatives to save costs. >> Okay. >> Go ahead. >> Um so 16 years of doing I'm the second oldest member on there. The only person who's been there longer is the chairman

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from Long Meadow Arlene Miller. She's a retired select person. She's >> still there. >> Harleen's still there. I won't let her. >> Good. >> But most of the other people are fairly new. >> Okay. >> So, >> tell her we need that hazardous Tell her to get back on the hazardous waste base she ran. That was a great time.

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>> I understand. >> Any other questions on that? >> Well, thank you, sir. >> No problem. >> Both of knowledge. >> Almost any time. >> Oh, you don't believe you're up next any transfers. I have nothing to do with transfers. >> Okay. your research.

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>> We have time for the timeline. Have time for the timeline discussion. Okay. >> But I just want to do it. >> Okay. Very good. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, next on the agenda, we're

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discussion of the uh fire department process and the timeline that is happening. So, >> so we got an we got an OPM guy. >> Mhm. >> And his job is to give us a schedule and timeline.

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Think we could encourage him to do that in the next week so he could see what products. So, I'm just thinking if we need to get permits last time he was here, he's talking about survey and geotech study and permits and all that kind of thing. So, you know, if we kind

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of knew what kind of permits we needed, maybe we could give a heads up to the planning board. >> Exactly. So, the uh surveyor he hired reached out to me because I knew him from back when I was on the planning board decades ago. They were having trouble locating that the lots were

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actually two separate lots. They can they've been working with the assessors, with EVA, with the registry. There's no record of ever being divided. So, we could keep going with this and as Don said, we could keep rolling and rolling, getting nothing done or fine,

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you can't find it. Let's make a line, get the thing done, submit an ANR to the planning board. Dan was going to reach out to Joanne even though she's on vacation. She called and said they can get on their agenda for next week, do the ANR, and

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now we have a process going, which also locks in the number for the old town hall committee, right? >> Yes, this is your lot. There you go. So, that's the only But going back to your point, hate to say it, we did your work

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for you. What else are you doing? Right. >> Exactly. >> Right. So, >> and I'd like to get it to just so we would know >> this is supposed to be done by this state, this state, this state. What what the plan is, >> right? >> I do have another question.

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>> Let me ask you before you ask that, Don. Let me ask you this. >> They've got a pretty good committee. Should we assign our rep to that committee? You want to be a rep? >> No. >> No. Because >> because we would have to have

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>> I was hoping you weren't going to say that. I was saying I thought you going to say you're so busy with the townhouse stuff. >> Yeah, I'm so busy with the townhouse stuff. Yeah, that's it. >> That's it. >> I just thought I'd throw it out there. Oh, Eric's not here. I want me assign him. >> Perfect.

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>> Well, we'll bounce that around. >> Well, all right. The other question I have is they have the connector building >> which is 955 square feet, >> right? My calculation is that if they did all

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the rooms that they had in the 5,000 square foot thing, they'd have a thousand square feet left over. So I I guess I'm asking why they had a connector building. Can't we just have a little hallway? Well, I thought the connector building was again not just the connector, but it also was a like you're taking the

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equipment off, leaving it there so you don't bring it into the other building, >> which made sense. You're deconing if you want. >> The decon is right. The decon is the supposed Well, I did ask about the decon the last time I said the decon's in with the four bays and that changed and all of a sudden it became we don't know if

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that's where it's going to go. >> Yeah. >> So, >> well, let's get the lot separated in the lot. Yeah. >> Right. So I'm just >> okay >> I'm just putting that forward so that they be aware that when it comes up again >> when you go to the committee meeting >> they won't let it go and express that to

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us. I'm motion to point down to the uh fire station. >> Yeah, you can appoint me to that. You have something at 9:30 in the morning. They're not on Zoom. >> Perfect. >> I got to walk >> right off the treadmill. >> Right off the treadmill. Give her Give her a cup of tea. >> Bring the dog. Bring the dog. That's

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>> bring the puppy. >> All right. Next on the agenda, quickly, we have received with regret notice of a resignation from the planning board. Christina Mosscaro is stepping down as she and her family are moving to Wyoming. Uh

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>> we certainly regret this. She has been a valued member. She's only been a short time, but I think her input has been terrific as a one of those things where we talk about it's a a generational thing. She brings a a youthful perspective to the planning board and we are going to miss her.

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>> So, she will resign effective the 23rd which means she will still be seated for I believe what they're saying hopefully the last public hearing for the uh Summers Road building. And if that's not the last thing, they will have something to think about

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because they only have four members that participated in that, which would mean >> got to be >> they have to be unanimous at that point or resubmit. >> So, if you would uh prepare a letter for the board, please. And Brian, you're

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posting this, right? >> Okay. >> And this term is going to be till the next uh annual election, correct? >> Yes. Okay. >> Yeah. You know when her term was up off hand? >> I think she's up the next time. She

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>> I don't know. >> I don't remember. There been so many appointment ones. It's like tough. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, next on the agenda, we have the important part. Now, we're talking money. Elise, can we ask you to come up closer so the microphone picks you up,

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please? And I see we have a quorum of the uh advisory committee. Welcome. >> Did you call yourself to order? >> We are called to order. >> Pledge of allegiance. Anything? >> Thank you. We're going to piggy back on yours.

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>> Okay, fair enough. >> Welcome Doug, Sandra, John, how are you? And your folks, Jean, hello. two. We have so many bills of lease. Are we going to be able to pay them all? >> There we go. Could you ask for more? So

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moved. Exactly. >> Thank you. So we have a uh and I have to say this is an incredibly welldetailed report. Thank you. Um so we have certain accounts that annually and it happens accounts

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overspend over the appropriate amount usually for reasons beyond our control. i.e. utilities. We're all quite aware what happened in the past year with utility bills and to find that some of them went over. I don't think it shocks anybody who has a house. Uh, one of the

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big ones that went over um the uh employee benefits was because of an unexpected retirement and we had a pretty large payout for crude benefits and that's at least that's the bulk of it, right? Pretty much that's it.

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We have a lot of little tiny salary ones. And was that the extra day of work or what was that? Where do you think that came? Was it the leap year thing? >> The calculation with the extra day. >> The leap year thing. Okay. Which this happens every four years, believe it or

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not. >> Try to remember it's three years. >> You think? No kidding. Why are we both going to be here? All right. So that represented probably I don't know six seven of them right there. Right. And what other ones

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surprised you lease are really nothing really. I mean the three cents for the regional school district bill kind of like uh non you know what's up with that. >> I mean they gave us an assessment letter. >> Oh question they went >> the assessment letter and I looked it up

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was exactly to the dollar. So how come they build us three cents more? >> I couldn't tell. We're not paying it. >> We're not paying the three cents more. >> Well, they they gave us a legal assessment as >> how much time do you want to spend on the three cents?

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>> Oh, we're ready to go to war, aren't we? >> What? I I have two questions. >> Transfer station monitoring >> there. >> What? >> That should not be there. >> Which one? Transfer station. Yeah. So, that's covered with the um that was an

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error. fish not be on this. >> Oh, it's not overdrawn. >> It is. However, the transfer station you look at in total >> and we've got the $15,000 um appropriation from the the

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>> No, no, that's the that's the enterprise fund. That's not this part of the >> No. >> Okay. Then my mistake. >> Transfer station monitoring test. >> Yeah. No, you're thinking the 15,000. But the enterprise fund that's different. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. We anticipated this was going to

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be over if the the change over didn't get done in time. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> All right. And then then uh the other one is the employee benefits. We know about veterans service district. >> I brought that up with Ryan. That's

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typically I thought a refund. I thought it was submitted and recapped on the on the >> charge and it's recapped on the tax rate recap. So, right. Um, >> I wanted to look into that just to see if that's something we do need to do a transfer for or if we just raise it on

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the tax rate recap, which >> I thought I thought it was on the tax rate thing. Yeah, we've never seen it before. Okay. The other one would be the CPA thing and Doug could probably speak to that. >> Yeah. 300, excuse me, $300. It's the

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dues, annual dues, community preservation coalition. And for many years, we brought this to town meeting as an article. >> Yeah. >> Then few years ago, I don't know, five, six, seven years ago, we spoke to Stuart

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>> Sag >> and he said that because it's an administrative cost, we don't have to bring it to town meeting for a vote. Administrative costs require a vote of the community preservation committee themselves. >> We did. Okay. spent. So after we received that advice, we stopped taking

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it to town meeting as now. It's one one fewer hour town meeting. >> Um I mean we owe the money. Uh it's just >> paid out the CPA out CPA, right? >> We've t paid it out of the CPA account. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay.

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>> And the way it's done here, it's almost, you know, because it's taken out of excess on another appropriation, it really doesn't matter. It's gone in the back of the CPA account anymore, >> right? But it's actually just a bill against the account that gets >> So you don't have to you don't have to

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transfer on that, right? >> Pay it out of CPA $500, whatever you are. >> The >> I spent $300. >> I know it's amazing. >> Firehouse renovations.

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>> So that was a a appropriation from I think it was two years ago and last year it got closed out. Oh, okay. >> Came up and that >> carry forward wasn't there. So that's why this is a negative issue. >> That's similar to the truck thing.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Like I say, some of these are amazingly well the school planning or the school move was that just that the school move thing. Now that was a

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warrant article, right? Or no. >> Yeah, there's still an account that has the u the townhouse the TWWB account that still has still has money. We're just not closing that one.

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>> Okay. So, >> so when you have >> So, why do you have to transfer money to it then? >> I mean, A, if it was a warrant article, you couldn't exceed it with the transfer >> and B, if it's not exceeded, why do you need to transfer money? >> So, because the accounts deficit.

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So, so so, so there was there was two different votes for for renovation renovation expenses. One was TB school planning and the other one was >> moved to TW >> TWB and then there was forget there was another uh 999 account

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um >> that has a TWW repairations >> TW repairs renovations that's another 999 account >> so that one has for uh 17,000. >> Here's renovations has 9,800 left.

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10 has WB has 20. All right. So, some of these are lineto line, but you have some down as the reserve fund, which are not lineto line per se that request advisory for reserve fund uh coverage.

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Are you drafting all these for our signature or who is? >> Typically there's a >> how does this normally? >> Typically there's a >> the the entry to do the transfer and then you >> one time >> when we have a a group like this typically it's all put on one sheet and

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so voted but this would be two sheets >> one for lineto line transfers and one for a request for reserve fund coverage for the uh the three at the end. If you >> So I can I mean I can >> you could prepare those and we could vote to to approve them and then sign.

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>> Yeah. >> You know and >> yeah you could vote to based on this list approve that as well but I mean the two different things. >> So in terms of the reserve fund itself the defibrillators will come out of there. Yep.

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>> And do we firehouse renovation? >> Yep. >> And the school planning will come out of the existing county reserve. >> Yep. >> Um Okay. And I'll back up. I'll back up here.

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I thought that I didn't think there was 25. Didn't we pay for that machine for Becky out of reserve? I remember bringing it to you. The copier thing. Yes. >> Are you sure? >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> Like six grand. >> Six grand or something, right? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Has a bill come through? >> I think I think it's I think it's in office acquisitions right now. >> Okay. So if you run that

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>> not that would still you have enough to cover it but I just thought that brought the balance down to 18 and 19 other than that machine which >> that was it. Yeah, I don't think we have anything in there which is some Okay, so

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the ones make a formal vote here. The ones on your list here, we're going to endorse, but we are going are we going to do the veteran thing the typical way? Recap on the free cash fee, which is how it's all been done in the past.

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>> Okay, so we take that off. CPA we're going to take off and just the bill comes in and we pay out CPA funds and then that allows the CPA board to pretty much close out the Memorial Park shade structures as spent at 19754

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and done which is how we've always done in the past. We call that >> complete. >> Yep. All right. With that being said, with the list in front that are not being paid for by the

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reserve fund, as for a motion to uh endorse an applic, >> right? >> I just know that they typically overspend that count because they charge their training s when they're right. It's our

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job. >> The salaries were trained to that line. >> That's been ask for a motion to endorse this list except the reserve fund transfers and the two items previously mentioned uh to the advisory committee for their concurrence.

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>> So move. >> Second. All those in favor? >> I >> I ask for a motion to endorse applications to the reserve fund transfer for defibrillators. Thank you. school planning move and firehouse renovation.

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>> So move >> second. All in favor? >> I >> I. >> So if there's a paper to that effect for both those uh the board will enforce that. >> You can both those two things as well.

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>> So we we need a motion or believe we need two motions. one for the reserve fund which requires separate >> transfer and then I think the other is the other line to lines >> right >> as a total >> um one

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can you make some notes here because when this is >> part of >> Yes. All right. Make a motion to transfer from the fund

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thumbs for the fifths PB planning and firehouse renovation >> 14,8297 >> 14,800297 8002 >> We have a motion we have a second all in favor

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>> okay reserve funded transfer is made now we need a motion to endor course the balance of all of these land and transfers as recommended by the select board. >> I move to move to um the line item transfer

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as noted to cover the balance of the remaining items. Second have a motion. We have a second. All in favor item transfer >> just extra cookies in the other room. Thank

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>> they under $25. >> Yes. >> All right. >> Then we are all set. >> Thank you so much. >> Please are we are we good for the books then? I think >> yeah I mean if you want me to print something out for you do that. >> It would be best if we had something

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else and then um totally. >> So all the deficits um 128799. >> What was it again? What were the other 12879918 the total deficits that were going into a transfer?

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>> Yeah, the biggest ones were again utilities and employee benefits and besides that it was Yeah. So of course that means right now and we the board did endorse the three cents to the school district. I want them to understand we're team players, you know,

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take that three cents because they always get our two cents worth. is right on the water. >> Right. There you go. Meeting with them next. It will come back. >> Should we bring it in first? Let's bring it. >> Okay. We'll have that in cash. Please want to bring it to him. >> Um

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so therefore, since we voted this, you must have the free cash number ready. >> Let me just say before we leave these numbers, I think considering all the changes had this year, all the moving parts, this is a pretty remarkable

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result. Well, I like the fact that everything is covered and there's still going to be I mean and I I I was joking. I wasn't putting you on the spot for that. I know there's going to be something you're going to work on that in the next couple of months. We'll be closer to that number >> and there will be something for it. I mean obviously we didn't spend out

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everything but this is just good work by every department basically keeping the line. >> Uh you know I know that they reach out to you and Dick for an a question. Bring a question. and you have an answer for them and this is what can be covered, what can't be covered and if you need

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help, you give them help. So again, we have a team here of 20, 25, 30 people and they all work well together. >> Your monthly reports are awesome, by the way. >> Thank you. >> They are. No, they are.

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>> I can go um if you're done with me, I can go get something printed now. tonight. >> I didn't sign those when I get back. >> I'm saying if I sign him, I can give them to the lease and they can take them. >> Are these gone again?

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>> Why? >> We we sign. >> Okay. Lauren the transfer or Brian transfer form for reserve it's one page if not we can back >> I'd have all right we'll follow up on

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that >> can't I just draft something well >> there is a form >> yeah rather than rather than I'll find it. >> You want to take these with you? >> Thank you.

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>> Thank you much. >> You guys want to continue? >> You want to continue meeting elsewhere? No, >> we have every confidence in you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you for coming. >> Not much. >> We did that. Well, it's I think we were going to

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appoint Eric to two or three committees while it wasn't here agenda. >> So, here doesn't Some things aren't necessarily on the agenda. >> So, true. >> Exactly. Yeah. Um >> we're good.

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>> I think we're mostly good. So, no reports. Just a quick report that uh the three of us attended the Rockets summer event. I thought it was wellrun. Uh good attendance. The food trucks were widely

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varied and all good. Um, I commend the parks department on a pretty darn nice event. So, Don, your your recap. >> Well, it was great. It was done great. They had nice they did a nice job. It was a good crowd and there's some very

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nice emails people that sent also. So, I >> mean, Don and I didn't know most of the songs, but other than that, we had a good time. Yeah. So, uh, good to see, uh, Brian Warren there. That was great. Thank you. >> Um, should have zoomed it.

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>> I have nothing else to report. We do have a planning board meeting this week. We have a COA. No, I'm sorry. Next week, COA board meeting tomorrow. Don Committee. >> No, we canled it. Vacation vacation is too hard to put together. Let's cancel

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this week. >> All right. Uh Brian, I did bump into Joe Zeno at the wake and he said he was touching base with you on that that request that's still out there.

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>> Okay. >> He is not but Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Now that's Oh, so I'll turn it over to you. You going to tell us about tomorrow? Is it tomorrow 10 o'clock? >> Call with new town council. >> Yep. >> Yep. New Town Council will be here meet

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and greet. Um then I'm going to be with her afterwards and bring her up to speed on our very few legal issues. >> Um yeah, >> is our biggest thing out there right now the ATB? And I was I thought they were

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hoping that was going to be wrapped up the time they tal I think there's a hearing in August >> for them. Um we have the the couple of the land transfers and purchases with land trust. Um that's really about it.

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>> You were sharing with me earlier about my cons, you know, I brought up that Warham low road property and you looked into it a little bit and just it's tough to get the history of it. >> Yeah. >> But I don't know. I think we all can acknowledge there's got to be some value

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to it. you know, they're not making the land. And >> you were saying it's 30 plus acres at least. >> I I think it's way underounted. >> Yeah. >> Based on the dimensions that are listed on the >> That's okay. We don't get a tax bill. Anyhow, >> Nick and I are going to go through the

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uh he thinks there's some older assessors maps um the archives. I think that transfers happened since it seems to have been sometime after 1970. So, it's in the grand scheme of things, it's fairly recent. So, we might have some

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maps that might give us some. >> You think you think it had anything to do with the the Hamlet Country Club when they first built it? >> No, because it's two. It's still got Casey's property in between and um >> Oh, yeah. >> Anger. I think Landing. Yeah.

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>> What's your What are they doing between Great Horse and Aisham's property? >> That's a tree clearing I was asking. >> Oh, cutting a couple trees down. Are they >> right by the Yeah. >> Yeah. Bunch of trees. >> I don't know. >> On their property. >> Yeah. >> I think it's some

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beautiful. They do speak about uh Don and I both went attended a wake on Saturday for uh Deacon Leo Coughlin's wife Moren who was former member of the parks commission. Lovely lady and we're saddened by her passing. And it's one of

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those things, Don, whenever we attend something and we see other people from town, people come up and they want to know if they have a minute of our time. >> And we are never begrudging about it because, you know, as long as they're

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respectful about what we're there for, feel free to come outside. We see them at the Village Food Mart. We see them at the gas station. you know, you got a concern, bring it to us. You know, we'll make sure you get to the right ear down the road because this is a 247 job.

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>> So, I know I had a couple. I'm sure you had a couple as well. Yeah. >> Uh that being said, Brian, what else do we have? Uh I know we have the quarterfinal, semi-finals, quarterfinals. >> Is it semi semiinal Wednesday?

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>> Uh Tuesday, Wednesday. Okay. Who are you picking for the for the winner? The whole thing. >> Question. I mean, I think my family wants England. >> We shall see. Um, joint meeting with the Wilberham select boardsman scheduled for

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July 23rd at 6 PM >> in Wilberham to talk about both amendments to the regional agreement. Um Isaac Bradway >> um will be closed through traffic uh starting July 24th. Uh Summers has asked

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that the road be closed at the town line so they can do uh some paving work. I don't know that's going to be one or two day job, but um I've talked to Mark about putting up the electronic message board a couple days before that >> just to give residents notice. >> Um the word

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>> how many >> what's up? How many residents are we talking? >> Nominating I think you can probably brief Xerox 70 sheets of paper >> did mention maybe uh maybe uh handing something out to people but >> um cemetery turnarounds the CPA project

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has been completed. Um now I think uh the secretary commissioners are are >> what about the extra paving? >> I think they're fix I think their next focus is on trying to get that that area paved. Uh but the the millings and everything the the excavation everything has been done.

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>> Um transfer station hollow contract that's all set sign that we send it back to uh Mcamera and that's about we send out the pair of professional letter we waiting for um >> we just got the last signature.

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>> Okay then we'll send out the a letter to the district about pair of professionals. Okay. So, moving forward. So, we're talking about meeting on the 23rd at the Wilberham Select Board Office. Are we meeting next week? I'm so

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confused with the week on week off stuff that we haven't >> This is supposed to be our week off. >> I know next week, >> right? And then if we don't meet next week, then we're three weeks until our scheduled meeting. So

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>> because then we would have like if we don't meet next week, we're not meeting the week after, you know. So, >> but we don't what we got, right? >> Just keep signing the thing. I mean, >> do we meet 15 minutes before our meeting with Wolverham in the parking lot and

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take care of anything? >> I don't have anything for >> Yeah. Okay. The only thing that's hanging out there is the chancecrum land trust. >> When And when are you putting the windows back out the bit?

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>> Um, they're out. Um, the bids are due 22. The bids are Yeah. 22. So, are you planning on coming to the what meeting? >> Um, I haven't given it a thought yet.

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I'm available that night. >> Okay. I was thinking if the bids closed the 22nd, you had a recommendation we could get the we could award the windows the 23rd, right? Since we're posted for that night, >> what time what time we meeting with Abraham? >> I assume six. They see this this is a

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meeting just for this. It's not a regular meeting for them. It's a meeting just for us. >> Correct. I mean, >> we're calling it to order. We could quickly accept this recommendation for a window. They >> say we could Yeah. Do it then. >> Right. That's at 5:30 and then we could go there next.

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>> Right. We could show them how it's done. We could do it during >> 5:30 is the new time. >> Well, this may be a thing. I know you sent the you sent the link to Eric because he's anticipating they use WebEx, right? Or what is it?

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>> Uh go to meeting. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, we're not going to do Monday. We'll do Tuesday. >> What's Tuesday? >> Thursday. >> Thursday. >> Thursday. >> Same thing.

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>> Yeah. Well, it's just >> both start with T, right? Well, even though we're doing it Thursday and I know technically you're off on Friday. I don't know if that's And you've got a schedule that you've given us. If that's one of those days or not, could you at least uh get the

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window thing done on that Friday? Like let them know they whoever excess. Okay. Waiting on Monday. Okay. >> Now, because of that prevailing wage thing, we've lost two or three weeks. Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, everything's all set. Change the date pretty much.

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>> Pretty much that's it. And the amount went up is going to go up >> considerably. Yeah. >> We'll keep the amount the same. See if they catch it. But >> yeah, >> change the date. >> I love prevailing wage. Okay. If there's nothing else to come before the board. John, do you have anything? Everything go with the water district.

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>> Blowing fine. >> Blowing fine. You find new member yet? >> Too many applications. >> Oh, still working through them. Okay. Corey check everything else. Yeah. Okay. All right. Three. Good to hear. >> To adjourn. >> Second. All those in favor? I. Thank you

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