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Part 1 (Video ID: -Rhmed1yHAQ):
- 00:00:52: Meeting Start, Pole and Transformer Placement Overview
- 00:06:05: Neighbor's Questions on Placement and Safety Concerns
- 00:11:27: Motion and Approval for Pole Permit; Double Poles
- 00:15:35: Veterans Services Update, Budget Discussion, and Needs
- 00:23:46: Introduction of New Shared Public Health Services Director
- 00:27:44: Manure Pile Concerns, State Law, Outreach Discussion
- 00:32:14: Health Budget Overview and Grant Funding Details
- 00:35:13: Library Discussion: Building and Facility Agreement
- 00:37:49: Library Agreement: Custodial Services and Responsibilities
- 00:43:51: Library Agreement: Building Improvement Requests Clarification
- 00:50:13: Formal Work Requests, Facilities Manager, and Communication
- 01:01:42: Budget Review and Joint Meeting With Advisory
- 01:03:17: Budget: Conservation Fund, Transfer Station, Chapter 90
- 01:08:01: South Road Bridge and Additional Funding Requests
- 01:11:12: Pickup Truck, Mileage, Fire Department Radios and Pagers
- 01:14:01: Handguns, Narcan, Senior Center Upgrades, Consultant
- 01:16:59: Corridor Tile, Parking Lot Improvement and Reduction
- 01:23:32: Equipment, Fire Dept., Real Property, Laser Grading
- 01:30:09: Tractor, Baseball Field, and Age Considerations
- 01:33:45: Water District, Election Awards, Animal Inspector
- 01:38:40: Old Townhouse Study Committee and Legal Counsel
- 01:41:31: LEAP Program, Traffic Study, EV, and Solar Projects
- 01:46:56: Cemetery, Regional Dispatch, and Transportation Contracts
- 01:50:22: Old Town Hall Condition and Future Planning
- 01:53:42: Public Comment: Grant Money, Bruce from Kelly Lane
- 01:58:56: Adjournment


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Yeah, you guys are muted. Okay, then >> more. >> Well, we did the pledge of allegiance. I announced the meeting. Um, we are broadcasting over Zoom and we are recording the meeting. All

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right, Carolyn. Thank you. All right, so that all being said, we do not have minutes for approval, but we will have them next week. Hundreds and hundreds of pages, right? >> Hundreds.

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>> Okay, great. >> Sure. Great. The first order of business is a advertised public hearing that will continue uh waiting for more information from the petitioner. And do we have that person here?

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>> I petitioner from Bridge, Diane Cloud. >> Diane, how are you? >> How are you? >> Good. Can you slide over a bit? We've got the one mic there. We've had some concerns from people before. Sure. Great. So, hi there. So, we t we opened

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this uh a while back. talk about a pole and transformer placement on Ames Road. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Not sure if you formally want me to read the verbiage or just go over the project. >> No, I think we understood the verbiage, but we had some questions about the

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project per se. Uh there was we didn't have an understanding of the what type of solar it was and why there was a need for a pole and transformer if it was just going to be a home solar installation because that seemed unusual. We've done a few of these. I

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would think that'd be the first time we've seen that type of need. >> It is a little bit larger of a uh unit than the normal. Some are 8 to 10 kilowatts. This one altogether is 21.5. >> Is that all roof mounted?

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>> That's between the solar company and and the owner. I don't think we're not given that information. Whether it's on the ground mount or or uh roof mounted, I wouldn't know that. I don't think it's our I don't think it's our right to know that.

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>> All right. So, your understanding is this is not a commercial >> operation. It's a homeowner that is contracted. >> Yes. >> And potentially a combination of uh ground mount and roof mount. >> Correct. And my understanding is they already have some and they're adding

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more. And the requirement is 225 ft. That's coming from the calculations from my distribution design group which handles all our solar. >> The transformer needed to be 225 ft from the service >> because of the kilowatt kilowatt

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>> kilowatt being more. So that restricted us not to be able to just the the pole closest to their house currently has an underground riser on it feeding the house across the street. >> You can't add a transformer to a pole with primary riser. So that poll's would

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have been ideal, but it's already out of commission for someone else. >> So we we're looking to add a pole 100 ft away to stay within the 225 foot distance that's needed for quality power. >> Okay, makes sense. Um I believe we

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already had obviously the building inspector had signed off fire department. We heard from Mark already as well, correct? >> Yeah. Subject to the usual field Yeah, observations era. >> Is there is there a wetlands near there? Do you know?

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>> Um, well, usually along I I I don't know that. I didn't research that. I mean, it's on the edge of road. This is not like this is right in line with all the other. >> So, usually the wetland ordinances >> don't really apply right on edge of road.

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>> When we get onto private property, we have to be aware of that. So, that was something I didn't look into. >> It's on the road. right away. >> Yeah, just like any other poll, we usually try to set them three to five feet off road so that not >> Eric on this poll is on their own

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property. >> No, it is along right around along public way. That's why I need to come here. >> But it's in front of their house. I mean it's on their house side of the house. It's not >> It is on their frontage. >> Okay. Um it is on their side of the road

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and on their frontage. >> Yeah, this is when you say the town's right away. This is one of those roads, Eric, that was in existence when the town came to be kind of like a, you know, there's no defined road as there would be for some of the newer

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subdivisions. So, you know, generally the rightway is from the crown of the road. So >> some rightways are 30, some are 50. >> This would be the pavement based on a travel. This would be between the 26 and the 40 number. Right.

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>> All right. Um I know we have a couple of neighbors that were here to listen to the presentation and hopefully this brought more to you. Any questions from you all? I just wondered why they can't use an existing bowl which is only about

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25 ft. >> I think it was she said because the law doesn't allow the yard is probably 25 ft. >> Yeah. Again, probably the weight of the transformer, the weight of the wire, stuff like that. Keep in mind this is pretty I imagine the wire size is a

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concern because of the you know 12KW is pretty huge for a home installation. >> 21, right? >> 21. Yeah. Um so Again, it's about safety. You know, you can't put transformers on a pole with a danger of maybe that pole's not strong enough.

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>> The other thing is, are they going to eliminate that? >> If they put this new poll up, are they going to eliminate the poll, which is >> which is the poll shown as one of those numbers? >> The the poll with the uh pink with the

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the half pink. That's the proposed new poll. is actually 75 ft away from pole 17, not 25 according to the notes I've been given. Um, and 100 ft away from pole 18, which has the primary riser on it going to feed house 150. Um, so it's

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not that so close that you know if we put the if I did the measurements today if I put the transformer on pole 17 and measured the span to 18 and then to their service then to their house I was almost at

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in in wire footage and the voltage drop would be too much for the calculations that we What number is your property? >> 58. >> Okay. >> I >> So, what pole What pole is on your

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property though? >> It's not. It's directly across. >> Did you see that? >> 17. I'm sorry. The one maybe >> up at the top left. Bring it down. Yes. See the 158?

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>> Yes. Obviously. I will say that the designer who actually designed the job, who wasn't the gentleman that came last time, he has another hearing tonight, so we couldn't attend. He I read his notes, he went back to our DG saying, "Is there

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any way we can put the transformer on this pole?" And the answer was that came back was no. So, we did look at that. >> I imagine you would because >> Sure. >> Obviously, it's cheaper. You don't have to put a new pole in, right? Yeah. You're not looking to spend more money.

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>> Not even not. But we we think about aesthetics. >> We think about butters. I know it's unfortunate, but I mean I can ask again. I can I can ask again if there's any way because there was opposition to it, but I do know it was already asked that

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question. >> All right. And again, the same thing. The reason you can't use is it 18 is because of the riser part >> as an underground riser meeting. John >> 16 pardon me >> online asked that if there was a potential for the wetland would the

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conservation commission be at least aware to research it that came from car >> yeah I would uh this is at the top part of road almost to the program

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>> well since this is at a halfway up since it's curb cut since this is a curb cut I would imagine it's not wet ends it's on a curb right like the public public way kind of thing. >> Shouldn't be wetlands going be a wet lands anyhow,

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>> right? >> All right. More questions from the board. Anybody from the audience? Jason, any thoughts? Eric and if we do have no more questions I'll entertain.

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>> Yes. If and when they put the ball in, they redo the wire. So, I have six weeks. >> Before I answer, let me just think through this really quick. Definitely not for setting the pole. >> No, I mean, they have to change the

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wires over the transform. >> Correct. Um, the transformer wouldn't be an issue. The only thing that they they usually do this live I would I would guess they wouldn't need to but they're going to have to run new primary because currently that span is a road crossing.

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So in order to splice in more wire we actually have it as replacement from both 17 to 18 brand new secondary brand new primary. They usually can do that all live with jumpers. Um, so I would suspect no.

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>> If for some reason they needed a quick outage, they would do a knock before, but usually this works all done by >> not a job I would want. >> Jumping those wires. No. >> All right,

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I'll entertain a motion. >> All right. So move. >> Second. And we have a motion to grant the request for a pole permit national grade. All those in favor. I >> thank you. Thanks for coming out. >> You're welcome. >> You want to talk about double polls?

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>> You need me to? I will. I can take any information back. >> I don't have my inventory. I don't have >> But we do have a collection in town that we would I know you try and work between >> any addresses. I can make sure they're in our engine system, which is how the

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three companies communicate. >> Yep. I know >> transfer first then >> most of the data in there is not relevant but that's fine >> they relevant in the engines program >> you have access to that >> yes >> oh why would it be not relevant for him

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>> don't get me started because in the past when I've looked at it there were double poles in there there was weren't double poles in there that exist for instance

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Two years ago, I was told that there was none on Wilberham on Allen Street, but I took the time to drive down there and counted 42 of them, which they they eventually removed. >> Same thing that there's some on Chapen Road, some of South in there. Then there's other poles that are have been

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removed long ago and are still in there and it don't say works completed or anything like that. >> Yeah. >> And I think >> the last company off should be the one to >> do do that. Yeah. that record as null and void. >> Um Verizon is the last one off and the last one to and they take the poll. That

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is the agreement. >> Right. Right. >> So I'm not pinning it on them. But >> yeah, >> I'm not the clerk who runs that. >> Yeah. I I have the email. I have the email for those people. >> Right. So if there's any that you have concerns over getting complaints, we'd be more than happy to look into them to

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make sure they're in process. >> Right. Well, we have concerns. I mean, we already saw one half. Was it Bennett road fell over you know blocking the road >> and I know it's not power company or Verizon usually it's the cable company half the time or maybe it's the uh fiber

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company >> you know it's the other services on the pole that prevent you know they've got to come over and move it so but we'd like to keep the attention on it so it gets dressed >> okay >> and we have some near some intersections we're always concerned about those

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>> on pictures of some that were held up blocks like a like a house being moved. They prop them up often if they do right cut and kick >> they cut the base off in them and they just put >> they put them back in the same hole and that's preferred because it's less disruption around and sometimes it's because of risers

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>> right >> I can certainly mention to Naani she's yeah that >> she's a good person >> yeah so she she would be more than willing to work with had more needs >> speak about the grid you know you were very responsive for the issue that was

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happening on Berber and Colony you know, when it came to our attention and maybe by the standards that we had before, I think the attention that you guys brought forward and address the situation was very commendable. >> Um, we've had a couple people compiation

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for the property coming along and of course the answer is well, we can't do it when the snow's here. When the spring comes, we'll take care of all the lawns, right? And that promise was made during the public hearing we had back in December or January, something like that.

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>> Yeah. >> So anyhow, bottom line is for that project there, I think the grid was very responsive and we're quite happy with >> Okay. Would you like me to follow up with that just to make sure? >> No, no. I'm just sharing to you as an employee that you know, good job. You know, we've working with Nyani

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>> and I think Quentyn >> the guy at the >> Quinton Verizon. Quinton. >> No. >> Contractor, I think. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Great. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Next, if we could and Jason,

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come on up. Jack and Lee were six minute be. Hi. >> We have before us Ken Jason from the veterans department. How are you all? >> Good. Thank you. >> Could you >> How are you doing? >> I'm doing pretty good. I guess I can give you an update from the board.

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Uh it's been an active year for the >> we were out on Brimfield. >> Okay. >> Yeah. What town what towns are in in the group right now? >> It's Hampton, East Long Meadow, and Grimfield.

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>> Wales. >> Wales. >> Wales. >> Thought they had their own VSO one time. Or was that Holland? >> Well, Holland's got their own BSL. They used to be in the and then they went to their own. Right. >> So, I mean, the the positive about that

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is we kind of spread the cost around and keep it a little bit down. Mhm. >> Uh we have had some interest in in Holland, but we're going very very cautiously because that would involve some additional help. So right now,

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anything that they ask us to do, we ask Jason to do is on a temporary basis. We meet every month. Jason reviews what's going on. We're very proud to say that uh of of the BSOS that are around here, Jason is the most accredited uh

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BSO. There are other towns that do contact him for uh consultative services. So we've held our own and uh we hopefully by bringing on Wales I mean bringing on

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Brenfield we're trying to keep the cost delivered. So, we have a copy of your budget, your proposed budget here, and the biggest two increases are expenses, which for all I know is probably

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insurance, as we've seen that many other departments at this time, and obviously this is something that your board, you know, presents. You review everything coming to you besides salary, things like that. um difficult sometimes to figure out the

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aortionment because of the reimbursement we get from the state for different things and it's a fluid situation in and out with veteran expenses. >> I do want to compliment you on the feedback I get around town. >> Thank you. >> That people are first off they like the

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better location. You know much easier to get in, you know, no stairs to navigate, anything like that. They like the privacy. That's big, too. So, >> yes. And if they're hungry, you've got the stoves right next to

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have a little chili contest for all your your people or something like that. No, but again, great job. >> Thank you, sir. Um, what do we need to know from what can we do to make the veteran services better in our town? >> Um, I do outreach at the senior center.

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I was just there last last week. >> Um we did we did a presentation. There's about 12 veterans showed up. Right now there's about u 140 veterans that in this town that get federal that get federal benefits. >> So my biggest outtake to them is if you

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know someone who's not getting a benefit, you think they deserve it, >> come see me. >> I'll tell you I'm straight forward. Yes, I can work with you or right now you don't qualify. Do you ever work with the people down at the BFW or? Uh >> I do work with the BFW um DJ and you

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know Heath and all those guys >> mostly with with uh M Mr. Jared Sassner work a lot with him >> um either with the parade or with there's an um I don't want to say it wrong but I think it's uh 28th from 9 to

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11. I think it's a the veterans coffee thing that they're doing. >> Okay, great. >> I believe it's for VN veterans, but that's >> I did see the announcement in the scribe every month that you had your your meeting there, etc. And I know we did

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the change last year with the assessors and the outreach for that was good as well that they qualify for a little better help. >> Yes, sir. >> on their property taxes. >> How many How many are they taking advantage of that? Um, right now there's um as of I didn't get the latest

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numbers, but as of um the end of January, it was 66 veterans. We're taking care of it. >> Wow. And there's there's no income. >> There's no income. It's it's it's a um it's a state benefit.

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>> Um as long as you're disabled, you qualify for it. And >> the state gives us how much? They give some >> state gives you back $175 per per veteran for the 100 for the 66 but some veterans qualify for full

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abatements with those um the town doesn't pay anything the state reimbures fully >> so it keeps the veterans in the house a burden on the not bad way but well costing the taxpayers any any >> well I think in that you know the assessors and you all talked last at the town meeting >> yes sir

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>> that this is a let's say it was a minimal thank you minimal amount of thanks to the veterans to help them out, you know, for what they had done. >> Yes, sir. >> And I think overwhelmingly, it might even been declared unanimous at the town meeting. I don't think there was any

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push back on it. And almost a question, is there more we can do? >> Uh, I think I'm good now. Like I said, just getting it out to the veterans who haven't seen me. >> Um, give me a call. >> You do you have anything on the town page? Do you do Facebook, social?

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>> I don't I know I'm young. I look young, but I'm old. I'm old in spirit. >> This is recorded. So, >> okay. I'm young. Uh I don't >> You may not do this. >> How do I say it nicely? I don't I I live in Broomfield. I don't like the town

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politics that go on Facebook. So, I just go on Facebook to see my kids to see what my grandkids are doing. >> Right. Because I don't want people, you know, there's this assumption that veterans Oh my gosh. But there are many younger veterans out there. >> Yep. Yes. >> That are in the socials as well. >> Yes, sir. And it's something we've been

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talking about as a board with the town administrator is how the town could expand their social presence. You look at different departments, uh, conservation, the library has a fantastic social presence. You know, you know, maybe not you all, but I'm saying

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that the people you hire do a great job. >> Yeah. So, they do. So, it's something I think we can take. I >> I can I can look at I my kids can help me with Facebook >> because not every veteran is here from the Vietnam War. Some are from other many other conflict more recent >> right so

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>> I I have younger veterans who come see my lot too >> so it's not just to be I was saying that's what they're doing their coffee hour for that time frame >> great okay >> I just wanted to boost Jason a little bit he spends a a ton of time at the senior center which um we didn't have

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that before and that gets around so that by word of mouth I think that's what has brought in a lot of veterans >> it's a great senior too. >> All right. If we only done the expansion, you could add an office there, >> but I'll put that aside. Any other

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office? >> I like I like my office here. >> I know you do with the stones in my office. >> Any other question? No questions. >> Great. Thank you for coming in. >> Thank you. Have a good evening. >> Right. So, we were nice with them to

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fool you into a sense of complacency. >> Okay. >> Come on up. Come on up. >> You're supposed to bring somebody to talk you well. >> Oh, yeah. I didn't realize. >> How you doing today? >> How are you? It's first time you were here, I think. >> That's correct. Yeah. >> So, go ahead. Introduce yourself.

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>> Yeah, sure. So, my name is Ryan Paxton. I started for the Eastern Hamden Shared Public Health Services, which is the department based in Long Meadow back in December. So we provide services to your town as well as Mson, Wilberham, and obviously Long Meadow. Um, you know, so it's been a great first three months to

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get started and, you know, happy to answer any questions you guys might have or give you some background on what I've done before this if you're interested. >> Well, you've had big shoes to fill. I mean, we've had a great relationship with Finn >> for many years, but you're here. >> Give us a little about your background, please. >> Yeah, so most recently I worked for the

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town of Monu doing a similar role. Um, we weren't the lead of a shared services arrangement, but I was the health director there for the town of Monagu for about three years. Um, before that I briefly worked at the state as a lead inspector and before that I was working as a health inspector at Hoyok. So, I've kind of had some progressive roles in

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local public health over the last, you know, five, six years. >> You look like you're 20. >> Well, you know, it's I try to talk. >> Um, and then I', you know, I've done some contract work on the side, too. So, I've worked in a lot of different communities in Western Mass doing tobacco enforcement and a little bit of

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food inspections and stuff. So, happy to be here and, you know, I think we really hit the ground running kind of getting things back up to speed in the different towns and >> Well, we're happy I think with the outreach. I mean, Lily has been very, she was here obviously before. Sure. >> And very visible in town and I think her attitude is like,

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>> I inspect, but what can I do to correct, >> right? >> You know, she doesn't bring the hammer, she brings the help. >> Yeah. We like coaching in a lot of ways where just trying to get everybody to the best place they can be in from where they're at now and you know I think we've had various degrees of success which you guys have supported us on on a

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few specific cases as time's gone on. >> 99% of the time it's ignorance and if I can help you with it thank you very much which are great. >> So um Don had some question obviously our board held chair and he was looking for a 25% cut in your budget bring that

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along. So we we've elim we've eliminated the public nurse position. >> Okay. >> That was funded through the pandemic and so we eliminated position. So you're going to be able to pick up the Maven. I guess that's the main thing. >> Absolutely. Yeah. So we've already gone

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ahead and gotten access to Maven. Um so those cases just the way it works, they get kind of populated into a workflow where you're automatically being notified. Um and my public health nurse Annette who serves the four towns, she's already started following up on some of those cases. So, I'll just let her know that, you know, now you're the first back stop and that's really the only

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change. Um, and you know, likewise, I have access to those cases. So, I'm able to kind of from a supervisory perspective, make sure that Nets getting the workflows done when she's, you know, on vacation or elsewhere, I have training on Maven, so I can jump in and do those. >> You want just for the people, you want to give 30 seconds on Maven?

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>> Yeah. So, Maven is the Massachusetts epidemiological network. It's essentially an electronic database um which starts with lab testing. So when somebody is has a confirmed case of an infectious disease, that's a mandatory reportable disease of which there's

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about 200 I would say quite a bit of them. I can't name them all unfortunately. Um but you know if someone tests positive for that anywhere in the state or even some outside of the state that's captured in this portal and essentially it's you know given to us to follow up on. So we're, you know, getting information about their possible

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exposure. Um, you know, where they might have been, if it's a foodborne illness, you know, you're getting that piece with the restaurant. And it's essentially to, you know, keep track of anytime there's clusters or other things relative to, you know, the way that infectious disease spreads in the state. Um, and in terms of our responsibilities, a lot of it's, you know, phone calls to the folks

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that are sick and, you know, finding out what symptoms they're having. Um, it provides an opportunity to kind of give them some clinical guidance to the extent that's appropriate. Um, and you know, it was obviously something that was very busy during uh the the height of COVID. Um, which is, you know, it sounds like the history of why you guys,

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you know, brought on a public health nurse within the the um Hamn Health Department budget, but we're able to cover, you know, through the shared services, which are funded by a state grant, the public health excellence grant. We have the capacity to to cover that for you guys. So, that's the good news.

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So now we have a a resident that concern are concerned about a manure pile. >> Correct. Yes. >> The warm weather's coming. >> Sure. >> Um we don't have a bylaw and I'm not so sure where public health is. Although

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there is some concern that uh from our our storm water management that some of the outflows tested positive for E. coli and for high nitrogen. So I don't know if that's and I I guess I don't know what the best thing to do is to approach

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the suggesting should we just approach the owner of the property and talk to them first and see if they can >> that seems advisable to me. So my understanding is this is a relatively large business um related to essentially raising horses. Um so I think that you know they do have a legitimate usage of

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the manure. Um, and when we're talking about, you know, nuisances in the community, you know, those are generally governed by the nuisance law in Massachusetts, which is a mass general law, chapter 111. Um, and, you know, boards of health have a pretty broad authority to declare something a nuisance and, you know, do enforcement

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against it. But I'd be hesitant to start with that as a first step knowing that this is a a community partner that might be very likely to make some changes, you know, on our quest, but also because there's a section of m the nuisance law that states that regular manure spreading shall not be considered a

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nuisance. Um, I'm not sure as though this necessarily falls under manure spreading or not without having perhaps maybe some legal counsel on that matter. Um, just not something I've seen go to court before, not something I I know the precedent around. Um but given that you know I think it would make a lot of

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sense to try to reach out and see how we could improve the situation you know outside of an enforcement order first um and then kind of you know see what's possible there. So potential conflicts in the state law rate the farm versus nuisance and then a carve out inside nuisance for manure but is it being

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spread in >> right exactly >> at this point we need more information if you will and by engaging all parties maybe we can come to a solution >> right and I I myself don't have a lot of observational data to go with it um you know as a health agent you're typically observing things firsthand and then you know writing inspection reports and

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orders based on those firstand observations >> you don't have the health shared services drone No. Yeah, unfortunately. I mean, I've driven by the area quite a bit and I've seen that they are, you know, starting to store manure. Um, but I haven't quite, you know, experienced the breath of that issue as it, you know, we move into the summer months. I'm assuming

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that >> Well, I'm just saying that we have a member of the board, Eric, can attest to the fact that he has noticed in the past that they can it definitely steps up the farming farm and I'm a little bit farther away, but um, ever since the that kind of farming has started, that

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the fly increase is it's legitimate. I can only imagine what it's like for center like right at home right on top. It must be impossible to grill or go in their pools or it's >> it's a really close proximity is what I've seen that you know since the operation

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started there has been a delineate change. >> So there is that did happen. >> At first I was kind of wondering where did these flies come from and then a couple people complained and I was like oh right >> yeah now it makes sense. Yeah that's where they're coming from. I'd be curious to hear what the business has to

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say about the practices specifically, too. I mean, I'm not sure exactly why they store it right there as opposed to somewhere else on the property or, you know, what they're, you know, I I'm not a farmer myself, so I'd like to hear some more specifics about how they're using it, right? >> Um, and, you know, determine whether that is

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>> Okay. Well, that makes sense. So, I guess my question would be then who does that outreach is the part. >> I mean, I'd be happy to do the outreach. I think, you know, it's it's right now it's not necessarily requiring a formal hearing. kind of like not make it formal at this point like yeah let's engage

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>> I'm hopeful we can improve the situation without an enforcement order based on kind of what we talked about with the different >> sure >> legalities >> again they may not be aware whatever so let's change what's happen >> I think that'd be a good first step and then you know we have other business with them that's regular business so it'd be a good opportunity to create

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that relationship as well >> okay arrange that would be good like like we met with the other businesses in town when we had an issue that would be >> yeah that makes sense um you go up there for health inspections already. So, >> right. And of course, if one of you wanted to join, you know, that would be outside of an open meeting. So,

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>> like it need to be done. Probably should be done, not Eric, because you are in a butter to so >> Okay. >> Don is the port health chair. >> Yeah. So, if you're willing to do that, I can reach out to them and try to set up a time for the three of us to meet. >> Just send me an email. >> Okay. Sounds great. >> Got my email. >> Yeah, that seems great.

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>> I'm good. >> Great. So, tell us about your budget. >> Our budget. So, yeah. So, for as far as the state grant goes, we are all set for FY27. Um, we're not going to require any outside assessment or, you know, funding from the town of Hampton.

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>> Um, as far as the health budget that's here, I'm not privy to that. I haven't seen it. Um, because it's not money that I spend or control. >> Right. I meant more like So, and Don talk about this the shared health services. >> Yeah, of course. >> You know,

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>> so it mostly funds staffing. We don't really have a lot of line items for expenses. We have a little bit for training, you know, a few thousand dollars, but more or less we get about $393,000 a year and that funds um 20% of my position. So, you know, 20% full-time equivalent. It funds the entirety of the

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health inspector position, which serves, you know, all four towns. It funds the entirety of a shared services coordinator who functions for all of our administrative management and also, you know, as a grant coordinator. Um, so that's Heather Visinette who works in my office. Lily is of course the inspector. and then Annette Gordon who's our public

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health nurse. Those positions are all completely funded by the grant um which takes up a sizable portion of the grant when you add in uh you know the fringe expenses associated with their benefits. >> Well the question I think and this happened a couple years ago Don was that the grant was a certain amount and then

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Lynn had gone through the wage recap >> and that's what exceeded the grant number. >> Yeah. >> So when the obviously impacts for the coming year will the grants still absorb those? When we looked at it with finance, they did not find a need for any of the towns to contribute in FY27.

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>> That's our question. >> Yeah, >> you're coming in with a zero ask. >> Correct. >> We love you. >> Going beyond that, I I have no assurances at this time given the fact that has not shed up the funding for the >> Well, if every board would come in like that, >> we try not to ask for a lot when we can.

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Um, and in this particular case, you know, we're happy to say that it'll be all right for >> 27 at this point. >> Correct. Y >> you don't want to return any money back to us? No, we unfortunately we don't have any money to return, but uh we you know we do anticipate exceeding our mileage budget, which is a problem we

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have every year. So we have about $4,500 um between myself and the health inspector. It doesn't go as far as you'd think it would. We have about 100 square miles in our territory. >> There's gas going on. >> Yeah. And honestly, the you know, the mileage rate is 70 cents a mile, which is significantly higher than it was a few years ago. So

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>> I heard that. That's the that's the Fed number, right? >> Correct. Yeah, we get it right from there. Yeah. >> Pretty good. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. And then the questions for Ryan. >> I do not thorough. >> So I think the key part thank you for coming in with the >> great great number and like I said look

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forward to report back from Don maybe in two or three meetings that you know contact what's happening. >> We'll reach out um either tomorrow or the next day just get rolling right away. >> Nice to see you guys. Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> Boy coming in with a zero budget. Wow.

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Those were the days. Oh, wait. Here's the library. Ladies, we welcome you to the front row. So, the microphone gets you better. That's all. >> Oh, that's right. >> You want to be in that chair? You get on camera.

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>> Oh, play group tonight. >> Yes. I know it was there. >> It was packed getting out of the rain. >> Oh, just it's to say those kids have such a great time at play group and so

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do the parents and grandparents, you know. But next week, no play group. All right. So, I'm going to turn this over to Brian because he is our Mr. Shakespeare of this to be practiced because he already gave

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the speech once. So Brandon, >> yes. >> Um, so the reason um we put this document together was for um parks and recreation

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and the library. Those are the other two I guess what we consider zones of building. Um and those are those are departments that are not directly under the control of the select. Um, and in terms of

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um, budgeting and just how all the operations are going to work side by side and who's doing what, we wanted to get everything down on paper and in writing so that when I'm not here or the board's not here or you're not here, there's something that continues on and will will help inform um, future staff

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of, you know, what's been decided here and how it should be working. Things have a way of, you know, changing and evolving. Right. Rights the departments are separate departments but the building

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and facility is under the control of the board. So that's you know there can only be one key for that part but no one has ever disputed the fact that the library is your library. You and I do want to say in the open

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house fantastic. I saw nothing but happy people coming out of like I said to Ellen, love what you've done with the place. A little nicer than when we went here, right Kathy? Bit of a step up. >> So, um that that's the reason why we

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wanted to get this in writing. Um and I know it was sent out probably three weeks ago, four weeks ago. Um, I don't know that unless the board wants to go through it paragraph by paragraph or you just want to ask questions or or write comments.

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>> We only have Yeah, we only have three. I think maybe Ellen told you. Did you get the edits? The edits. >> Um, >> we didn't. >> Not in front of me. No. >> Oh, okay. >> But I could have. I'm not gonna >> Yeah.

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>> Not gonna say I didn't. But >> why don't you refresh your memory? >> Yeah. If that's my memory, >> the first one was number nine. >> Yep. >> And um the library has always large programs, summer programs always cleaned

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up afterwards. So we're not really sure what the additional custodial services ever would be. So we wanted just to put the library trustees will be responsible

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for providing details for the additional custodial services >> if needed >> if needed. But we can't even imagine what that would be. >> Is this like before or after? Like say

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they ran an event and for whatever reason the event something went all over the carpet, whatever. Now it needs to be a different level of cleaning than normally would be. Is that what we're talking about? >> They spilled the red wine. So

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>> the red wine especially. Yes. Exactly. >> We don't have that >> Roford room. I don't know. Heard stories. So just to for some context, the way that the way that the facilities manager was thinking about oral

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services, it'll be it'll be um it'll be 10 hours a week essentially essentially two days a week. Um so if there was if there was services that were needed beyond those normal times and that's what he's budgeting for, that's the concern is that there's not necessarily

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funding to have the custodian come in, you know, on those off times. That's that's that's the >> So you want to say what how do you want to put it? We just want to that if there was either take it out we to provide um the details

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why we would need additional custodial services because we don't have a budget for custodial services the library >> we clean up after ourselves >> we have we have two three big events a year

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>> we literally >> do the floors bag Again, that's all I can think of. If there was like some horrible, like I say, something got spilled the carpet in the children's room or something like that and needed maybe we need to >> Yeah, I think we're saying the same

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thing. >> Yeah. >> Um, so let's So, I guess what we're trying to say is we have a c We're going to have custodian uh two days a week, five hours a day. um if you need something beyond that

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really at your request, we could provide it, but we don't necessarily have the funding to do it. So, if you're going to do it yourselves, if the library trustes are going to do it themselves, then I don't see an issue. We're not saying we're not saying, "Oh,

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whatever. It's so dirty that that that we need to clean this up, right? It's it would be at your discretion whether you need those additional custod. Is there an opportunity also down the road, like I said, we've got this figured for x number of hours, but we're really going

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to get a sense of that after some time. And it might be that after a couple months, we're going to find out, you know, 10 hours was too much. We can get by with eight. And now maybe there's a couple hours in the bank basically for these things we talk about. We're still

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feeling our way through a bit, >> right? >> You've only been there coming up to three months now. Really? No, no, >> it's just the wording. The library trustees will be responsible for providing the additional custodial services.

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We don't have any means to go out and hire people to clean all the rugs or whatever. But and that's why we just if there was something we would want to come to you

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and say, "Look at we're in a bind here." >> Yeah. happy phrase. So there's more conversation. >> I think we're saying the same thing. Yeah, I don't this isn't meant to imply that that the I don't want to speak to the board, but that the select board will come to the library trustees and

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say you have to pay for this extra service. I don't think that's what's intended here. So we can work on the wording. It just meant >> yeah, >> we have somebody that's twice a week probably five hours a day and if we need something beyond that >> then the library trustes would have to arrange for that. So we'll it can be

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something along those lines if that makes sense. >> It's really at your it's really at your discretion as to >> whether you need those. >> Okay. So that's an area for working >> because we can't >> we don't have funding to do it and I

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can't really imagine that there would be >> well I think about all the all the events we've ever had in the Rashford room and that was all carpeted. >> Well again same thing. So you expressed, so let's work on the voiding for that, right? So >> we moved here. >> If it's if it's ambiguous, we'll work on

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something, right? >> We never had this since 25 Maine. I remember I never remember signing off on >> I don't know. >> They could call Bob and ask. >> I like the idea in terms of

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expectations, you know, playing out the Sure. roles. Um, number 12, building improvement requests. >> Can you give me an example? because I

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can't think of anything that the library would request for building improvement that isn't already covered by um I think it was number you

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know what the town is responsible number um five the select or do you control the um the roof, the walls, floors, the doors, the windows, the electrical, the heating,

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the cooling, parking lot, security camera, wiring. >> Well, and and I'm like, what is this about? >> Well, I think it's like with any change to a building. I mean, the select board

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Ryan and Herb are responsible for the building. Heck, I came to the open house and I think might have been you, Kathy. We were joking about, you know, all those old lockers, we should get rid of them and make shelves for books or something. And then somebody said, "Well, we're already doing that." Like,

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can't be because we don't know about it because that's under our purview. You know, it's a great idea. >> Yeah. >> But that would need to go through Brian and Herb for it to actually happen. >> I thought her was doing it. not

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>> telling me. >> So, um, the TV went up this week and I asked her, "Did you know about that?" I don't think so. >> Is that a building improvement? That's >> It's in the building. It's not in the library. It's in the building. It's out

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in the hallway. There's wiring. >> Oh, the for the um >> the I think it's a great idea. Gotcha. >> It's a great idea. You know, any electronic sign, hey, this is what's happening. Take it. But I think what Brian is saying, we all have to be in the loop. That type of bike.

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>> Yeah. So, so examples would be, so these would be requests to change any of those items that are discussed at five. So, let's So, let's say we want a lighting upgrade in there. That would be an example of of right of a building improvement that that we're looking at already, but that would be an example of

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something that that might need to be done, let's say. Uh, I know there's still uh I know there's still there might be some ceiling tiles that you want to change or things like that. Um, you know, improvements to the building that that that you would that you would

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want to submit and see done to the space. >> Right. >> You came to us before and right now we are working on the change for the handicap access to the ramping over there. >> Oh, good. Now the well I don't want to speak now that winter has passed by

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although we all live in New England something could Yeah I know don't temp don't temp you but if this is the end of it we're at the point now we can do something with that corner over there and put some ramping in for easier access

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obviously better weather makes it easier for Herb to work with an electrician to get better lighting over there as well you know So those you brought to us before, we're more than willing and eager to get that done, you know, for those upgrades. And that speaks to

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communication. Bring it to us. We'll get it done. If we can find in the budget, we'll get it done. >> Right. And the the really the disclaimer in here is that if there's work that's being proposed and you have a source of funding for it, it's not sort of the general building maintenance,

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>> uh it'll it'll likely get done a lot sooner, >> right? because the list of needs that we have for this building is quite lengthy. >> But back to your point with respect to the television put outside of the library there. >> That wiring you were charged for.

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>> No, we should know about I mean we keep detailed records of what's hooked up etc. here things like that. We don't make a change to heck look at the wiring work had to be done prior to moving in pulling cable stuff like that. So I mean any change to a corridor or hallway

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should at least be run through facilities manager. >> So what's really new here is the fact that we have a facilities manager that we should be communicating with more and you're that person. >> I'm not that person.

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>> You're not. It's her. And it was my understanding that it all went through her. Just to clarify that point. >> And I asked her and I said do you know about I don't think so. >> Excuse me. I said I asked Herb and he said I don't think so but that's why we

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also asked for things to be put in writing. He said they might have mentioned on the way by you know I got a lot of things going on in the day. So we've been pretty clear like hey just send him an email. He keeps this great Excel list now of all the different departments asking requests to be done.

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And it's good because maybe when he has them like that he can assign different priorities. I will say right now the priority you brought forward, the lighting is at the top as soon as the contractors are available. >> Yeah, >> because you made a great point. These are safety things. >> Yeah,

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>> they're up there. >> Brian is working hard to make sure the funding is kept for those in there. >> So things like that, but just like anything else, you keep a list to assign, you know, what's more important.

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>> And when you get something in writing, it's a lot easier to remember later. >> Yes. Yeah, >> absolutely. >> Are we okay with that one? >> Yes. >> I will talk >> I think it was the same thing I said. So

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work requests will be prioritized, you know, >> you know, in terms like you're asking for this, but you're >> just like you saw we just had, you know, Jason and Ken in here. >> They probably want the same thing. You know, people go into other end of the building to see the veterans agent. We

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of course will be looking at making that handicap accessible down at that end of the building. So those are all priorities that need to be balanced against each other or with each other. So basically number 12 is just

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if we notice a ceiling tile that's you know >> damaged or whatever. >> Even though in number five it says the select uh board is responsible for the roof the walls doors the door you know

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all that stuff. we would let Herb know that there is a ceiling tile in the library that needs replacement and he would >> I think we read it as that we would have to put in some formal work request and

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>> explain how it's going to get paid for and work very I think I would agree it's a work request like did he send out a a typical form form for people to fill out. >> His we're working on on a on a pretty simple form that could be filled out.

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And we're not and again we're not trying to get at very simple things. It would be things that are a little bit larger like lighting upgrades or or I want to, you know, replace all the ceiling towels on this room. If there's, let's just say

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that if there's a leak or something or there's one ceiling tile and you know, things like that, an email might suffice. I don't want to I don't want to speak for him, but the idea is that there's communication in writing for work that needs to get done. >> And I think

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>> that's a good idea. >> I think we need to also remember that Herb is >> the town facilities manager, >> right? >> This morning he was at the senior center working on an issue over there in the kitchen with their fire suppression system. tomorrow he could be at the uh

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academy hall or he could be stopping by the highway garage for an issue they have there. >> Obviously right now with building 90% here but it is all the town buildings. He will stop at the old town hall on a weekly basis to make sure things are still copics.

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So having him something in writing makes it much easier for him to balance keep all those ball balanced in the air. out >> and I think >> we're happy to hear any suggestions you have for Michigan. >> Yeah.

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>> Well, I going back to source of funds business. >> Okay. Um, we were even suggesting to admit item 12 completely because as far as we're concerned other than

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submitting a work request, as far as we're concerned, nothing's really changed from when we all lived over on Main Street to where we are now. So part of me recognizes the need to do

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that for somebody that has the scope of job that this indiv individual has. But >> um when I see things like source of funds, then anything that we would do for the library, it's a municipal building. It

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would go to the town and then be voted on and agree to if it was above and beyond the simple ballots changed. No, >> that's only my point. Is it really necessary to have item 12?

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>> So the reason that's so so we'll put together a a general building maintenance counts that that's funded annually. And that's gonna that's gonna that's going to cover anticipated it's going to cover

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things that we anticipate we might have to repair or replace throughout the throughout the the next fiscal year. But for larger items that exceed that amount um we're not going to be able to fund

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with that. We're not going to be able to fund those. Um, so you're correct that that it would require a a a separate town meeting quote, but let's say that let's just say let's just say there's an account that you have money that that

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could cover it. Um, and maybe it's not the library, maybe it's a we have very similar lure parks as well. I don't know, maybe there's a donation or something that comes in to to do something. Um, that's the only reason that we would have something in there

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because if there's money available, it can get done sooner. That's that's the if there's money available, it can get done sooner. If we know there's money available, it can get done soon because then we're not trying to prioritize it behind all these other projects that are competing for whatever the whatever the

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building maintenance fund is. >> Let's take an example. Go back to the lockers. You might say, you know, we like take out the row of lockers outside the Roger room and the children's room. Okay, that's a great idea, but right now that's in phase B or C because the funds

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we the town appropriated aren't there for that type of thing. You might say, well, the friends are willing to pay for it. There we go. That's how you identified the building work and a different funding source for something like that. >> Okay. M

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>> and otherwise it goes to you know into our list of phase B or phase C things in terms of importance for upgrading or maintaining this building from the building standpoint. It might

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be more of an aesthetic thing because it's not important to the structural operation of the building. It might be important to the library because you see it as something important for your operation. and you're saying, I'd like to have a

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higher priority to it and we can get some funding for it if it can be done quicker. Does that kind of make clear in some sense? Yeah, there's an example for you agree or >> that's that's the there

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>> but I still think Kathy the idea of a people buying their old locker doors is a great idea. You ask the kids if they remember their numbers if they want their old locker doors. >> They don't. >> They don't haven't even heard what

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they're going for yet. And number 15, um, >> we had a change for that for the, um, for the, uh, park and wreck. I think we can incorporate the same change. >> Yeah, it was along the lines of of 48

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hours notice for a meeting to discuss the amendments to the agreement. >> Yeah. So, we didn't just amend it without bringing you 48 hours to notify you that we'd like to propose an amendment so we can schedule a meeting. >> Okay. So,

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>> so the wording would be because it it sounds like >> I know right they made that point like, "Hey, by the way, we're going to tell you and that's it." Yeah. No, >> just to discuss and library trustees >> because you need 48 hours to Well, you

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need 48 hours to post if you need a meeting, right? So, we'll give the 48 hours to start a discussion, if you will, of a proposed change. We're not going to amend without bringing you in for

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a discussion. >> Yeah, >> but this is 48 hours to notify us, >> right? The wording is is different now. So, >> that we would >> schedule a meeting. >> Schedule a meeting, right? Because you know we meet once a month.

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>> The Yeah. But the 48 is the posting requirement. That's all. So that's where the 48 hours comes from. >> And how would we know that that it >> No, no. It just means that's the time it takes. So he would notify. So again,

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>> I understand that. >> Again, it would we're talking like you say, you meet once a month. It's just nothing that's going to happen quickly. I think we can come up with some wording that say the select board reser reserves the right to amend this after

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consultation with the trustees at a posted meeting >> or 30 >> something like that >> or 30 days I think 30 days would do it >> well we can't post you can't post a meeting without talking about it so automatically that's going to be 30 days >> right >> okay

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>> got a joint posted meeting or something which is going to force you to be that long idiot. >> Yeah. >> Right. Something like that. So, hey, you might propose an amendment, but you're going to have a meeting with us about that, >> right?

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>> Okay. >> Look, bottom line, communication, communication, communication. >> So, we're going to just kind of change the language at the language and we'll get a final copy of this. Yeah, I think

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I can I think I can work offline with the trustees to find some acceptable language that >> Okay, good. Okay. >> Okay. Now, you do talk about and I know

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you probably meet not again. We'd like to move this along in terms of getting a thought if I can make a suggestion. This is something brag to probably get these changes done within a week.

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We'd like to invite you to another meeting. And as a suggestion, what you could do is you could post yourself prior to our meetings, look over the proposed suggestions. And that way, if you're agreeable to them, when you

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actually come into our meeting, we get it all done. Like say you had them done this week, send you an updated copy Wednesday. You say, "Okay, going to be on the select board schedule for next Monday at 6:30."

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You post the library trustee meeting for 6:00 and you sit in your room. Okay, here's this. How do we feel about it? Boom. Okay, we're good. Or we want this changed. And then at a posted meeting, you discussed it and then brought it back to us.

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something like that would move it along faster. And that way if you see a change you want done, we're not waiting another month and a half after your regular meeting. >> We'll have to >> kick that around. >> I didn't even ask >> I didn't even ask if you guys are posted

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tonight. >> What's that? >> I didn't even ask if you were posted tonight. >> Well, I think we'll treat this as justformational back and forth. Oh, yeah. No actions were required meeting. That's what I'm saying. No actions were required. So, it's justformational.

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>> Decided. >> We haven't decided on anything. >> Exactly. Right. But please take a quick >> No, thank you. >> So, >> okay. So, >> again, communication, communication, communication. >> Listen, wait for you.

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>> Deal. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> All right. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Thank you. But Jean, >> talk to the kids about the doors. >> Taking them off. >> They want it. No, I'm telling you. $5

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for their old locker door. Come on. >> All right. Budget review. Brian, you did share that you you had no suggested changes. Don, you had a couple of thoughts? >> Not for the selection budget. >> Okay. >> Um, are you suggesting then it's time to

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maybe have the joint meeting with advisory >> because we there are budgets we don't know about at this point. You know, >> what do you think, Eric? I mean, right now agree. >> Are we we've met with I think they've met with everyone. Right now, it's time to talk about >> big picture. >> Big picture. Okay.

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Great. So, next Monday, see I think the number I'll be here >> really, God willing. You never know. The Greek's going to rise. All right. Great. Okay. Warm review any big changes. Uh

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friends. >> Well, um this is I think this is where Don wants to have a discussion. Okay. >> Maybe hold on. Eric, what are your thoughts? Well done. Well done.

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Well, >> budgets. So, article four. I got a question here. I got lots of questions on this. Okay. So, article 23 says purchase a conservation prep north road. Yeah.

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>> Right. We already paid for that. Was that the one we already paid for? >> That's the money that was already appropriated, right? From the CBA. >> Yeah. >> Well, my question is on article 4 with

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$1,000 for the conservation fund. >> Do we need to do that? They're getting 4,000 from the five 5,000 from the uh Amoresco. Mhm. >> I'm not sure where that money is going. If it's going into revolving account or

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if it's a separate account, >> I'd have to look at the lease we signed for MRS, >> right? >> Whatever because that designated $5,000 payment, >> right? >> I mean, if you're getting 5,000, I'm

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just thinking of ways to shrink, you know? >> So, we might want to take that one. I'll think about that one. >> Okay. Um, so article 8. Okay. Transfer station, we

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have to get the the hauling bid. >> Yep. >> And before we can do decide anything on that. >> We're not at that point yet. >> Not at that point yet. So >> are we at the I can't recall. Do we have one more year of we're allowed to extend

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or was that the last year to extend? >> I think that was the last year. >> I think it was last year. >> 15 article 9 were taken out, right? Article 9. Yeah. >> Well, we can take it out or just take no action.

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Still think it needs to be discussed. So >> So the compact loader dump truck, what are they doing with that? Well, I think that's for us to decide. I mean, I I'm I'm of the opinion that we take the loader out of the 2026

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chapter 90 book that at this point we was going to be paying for the part of the South Road Bridge. Now, we don't need to, >> right? >> And we didn't really have another project that was taken away from. So, I think that's a good use of it. And

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it still actually leaves a little money in chapter 90. If that was 250 and we're if you can still get that same deal at 190 where still got >> a few bucks a >> few months to do something. And then the dump truck.

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Well, here's the thing. I don't know if you can split it. like you say, okay, well, we're still 60,000 left in chapter 9026 money, but that fourth dump already that's already give away the 2027 chapter 90.

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>> Yeah. >> And I really that number looked really good from email from the state 400. >> Yeah. >> But I still don't have a hard sense of does that mean we're not getting a fair share? That went up to 400 month.

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>> Yeah. Right. But the rural roads plus the rural roads >> right now we're calling it all this because that would be a heck of an increase, you know, in one year, especially when it's still a $300 million bond, >> right? Are they taking the casino and

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getting more money, >> right? So the dumb truck right now and the other question is can he live another year with it? >> Honestly, I'd say yes, but

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Can't keep kicking every capital thing down the road. >> Could take the pickup truck. Oh, that might be too small. >> I don't think the pickup truck can go under Jeff behind you. >> That's I'm afraid of unfortunately. Yeah, >> that would be the right amount of money left over.

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>> I'm not Mark made a comment about the pickup truck not being eligible. >> That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah. And then just to go back to compact wheel loader, we are investigating. We are still trying to sort out the the south road bridge bids.

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There might be some technical issue with the low bidder that we're still trying to sort out. So we'll have to see how that plays out. >> Okay. >> Okay. But my understanding from the emails back and forth, even if you had

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to go to the next one, bottom line, I thought they were covering the whole thing. Basically, the small bridge program was good up to a million dollars. >> Small bridge program has has awarded us 700 >> because that was the number >> thousands of dollars. That's number we we are spinning a request to amend that

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amount, >> right? Because I saw the email about the fair thing and said small bridge cap is 1 million. Yeah. So, even if you had to go to the other vendor, you could resubmit to the small bridge program saying, "Okay, the first one was disqualified. The second guy is an extra

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$80,000 or whatever. We'd like you to cover that difference because you put a guy on the state list that turned out not to be qualified." >> Yeah. So, >> responsibility. >> So, but not that he's not qualified. He just only qualified to $740,000.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, it's gonna be my updates, but there there there's going to be a meeting at uh it's 11 or 11:30 Wednesday morning >> at the bridge to >> talk to talk with at the bridge >> to talk with Masto the administrator of the small program. >> Tell me

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>> so we can make that request. >> Tell me it's teams >> probably. I hope. >> Give a second screen. >> They bring everybody in the department. >> Hopefully, we'll have an answer soon about about that. >> You going to ask them about rocket nundy

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at the same time? Um, so one at a time. >> All right. So I still I don't know how Eric, what do you think about the wheel loader? Yeah. 90. >> Yeah, I think I think that's a great This is just we have leftover money. I know it's got to be used, >> right? So I think it's a great great

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appropriation for that. That's it's kind of a a way of getting what we need without hitting the town's, you know, budget. >> What's your thought on the dump truck? What's your recollection of the talk with? >> My recolle recollection is that the

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was getting pretty rusty is what he said. It was getting pretty >> pretty pretty rough. But I know you know old >> Well, it wasn't the original day. Remember he said he cut. >> So I think his proposal was to get a smaller dump truck, right? It wasn't wasn't what he wanted. Smaller dump

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truck. >> Was a stainless steel body or >> a stainless steel body to try and save some money. They got so so so big. as we trying to kind of already kind of condense as it is and uh yeah I mean

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>> it's one of those thing kind of to your point that's one of those things if you keep kicking the can down the road and we just keep kicking it down it's going to be >> pretty soon there's two trucks in the same >> two trucks yeah or we're we're looking for contingency or the truck you know the engine blows we're putting good

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money over bad money and you know not saying any money's bad money but you know what I mean And then at some point we got to take the bite. This might be that time. And I I and a good it' be a good to investigate to see if there is possibly after the whole discussion if there

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still is access chapter 90 if there's a way to kind of >> Is there a way to split it or is there a way to kind of get clever with that? >> Yeah. At least you can take a bite off of it. >> Take a bite off it. Right. >> Uh the pickup truck, I thought he made a good case for the fact he's got a pickup

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truck. It's got 100 grand on it. By the time Tom meeting rolls around, it'll dump more out of it. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. And if we want to keep uh keep our roads as clean as they have been to have the right equipment for the job.

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>> Yeah. I still haven't seen it. We saw this done back in the capital because dad was really good at it. It's good mileage count for every town vehicle. That was like good at keeping that. That's saying, >> you know, we got X number of trucks in

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the highway department. I haven't seen one from the police state police department in two or three months. Wildest mouth. I thought our plan we kicked around that if we do a cruiser instead of trading it

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in, it goes down to the animal control officer and get rid of the bills for keeping the other one running. Barely running downhill's fine. Article 15.

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So is this 6,000 for fire department radios? I guess I got two thoughts about that. Is there is there any chance that could go under the dispatch grant? Maybe you should check with Tony. Plus, we got to negotiate that anyhow.

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And also he there's currently $14,000 as of the end of February in the fire department maintenance account. So does he have that encumbered for something or is can we buy the radios out of that

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or we never use the $10,000 that we always pay into the ham the country retirement fund. could we transfer that to pay for the radio like we wanted to do that remember to pay salary but she didn't

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need it so >> so those type of things you know again come May 1st we can vote lineto line anytime >> yeah I I'll follow that I had I had a quick conversation so I I did this is I I did write this

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incorrectly there pagers for the fire department um >> they're pagers Pagers. Yep. And uh yeah, we can discuss it. Can discuss it a little bit. >> Pagers. That's where the P >> AI

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g some jerks. >> All right. >> Handguns. >> Handguns for the police department. So that's estimated at 15,000. again that particular account we're

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going to have in excess of FY26 money in the salary account. So could we do the same thing transfer the $15,000 to pay for the handguns and that way it won't go against the FY27

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because we've already taxed the people for the 15,000. >> That is possible. >> Thank you. >> Right. The only confirming that's possible, >> right? I mean obviously it affects the potential pre-cache for the following year.

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It is 61 does the other but it takes a few articles off the uh the warrant here at this point. >> Yeah. And it's already money that's been taxed. >> All right. Move for about the senior center. >> I can speak. Same thing. We're talking that >> we appropriated the money for the HVAC

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upgrade. I think I mentioned last week, >> I inter go back to the police department. >> They're requesting $800 for Narcan. >> We can take that out of the opioid settlement. We have $4,000 in the opioid settlement. >> Seems appropriate. >> 800 bucks isn't a lot, but it's another

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$800 bucks off the tax rate. >> That makes sense. And certainly relevant. >> Yeah. Yeah. They could take it out of that. They could do it right now. They could do it today. Do we need to or they can we need to authorize what comes out of that? >> I don't think so. I think they can go. I

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think I think Naria is one of the things that they specifically say they can just appropriate. >> Yeah, that'll be a thing. We had talked one time because there's that group at Menach I think the lumberjack above the influence >> and doing maybe a donation to them for their expenses. So it's relevant to

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that, right? But >> you did roof and windows. Um I think we heard last time that tenant appropriated and reappropriated the money from what for a total of roughly 240 250. Yeah. >> Yeah. We're hoping that the bid is

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actually going to come in considerably less than that which might leave enough to do the windows. Sorry, do the roof and potentially the windows without much of an additional appropriation. Brian, is that what you've heard? >> That's what I've heard. The B will do on

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26. They'll have a better idea. Right. But they're hopefully that we're going to have a considerable amount underneath the cap which will allow a minimal if any little one wasn't broke and the other two is pretty much Brian.

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>> Yeah, >> we don't know if there's a program available yet for the upgrade. >> Right. So, we're still waiting to hear back from from our from the uh consult for the I don't want to call Eversource Eversource consultant, but Eversource approved consultant

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>> on estimates for like the people did before Prism all those people that come in >> you know what's the number this year? Is it 6040? Is it you know I mentioned before we had an 8020 and then they want the 2080 bad

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um is this number this number is the corridor just the corridor right >> all that's listed here. >> Yeah. >> Um so this would um this would be in addition to the corridor because I believe we're going to try to do the

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corridor this fiscal year. Correct. Yeah. >> Yes. This would be this would be additional removal. >> So what part is this? And right now the number we had before was the corridor going down towards the old meeting room.

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>> Um so this will cover about well depending if we did the hallways or not. So the select so this room was about >> which would be the library quarter or the center >> nine right? >> Yeah. >> Eight or nine. So this would do this

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would do additional rooms. Um so maybe three additional rooms or or additional hallway based on the based on the need of of the rooms. There's some rooms that are in pretty >> Yeah. But spaces are pretty rough shape right now. >> True. But I always think that hallways

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are more important. More traffic than like an office with people desks are on top of everything. >> Yeah. >> And the traffic area is pretty small. >> Yeah. Yeah, the border health rooms in pretty rough shape right now >> and that wouldn't be hard to clear out either. >> Right. Right.

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>> Um and the sort of this the side hall the back hallways already been that's that's been addressed. It wasn't part. >> Yeah. >> Um so the side hallways are not in that rough shape.

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>> Back hallway been addressed in terms of they did them already. I did them. We did them. >> They did them because from in front of the kitchen in the gymnasium, between the kitchen and gymnasium is is a different type of large format tile.

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Then I think the rest of that is 12 x 12s I think. >> So they can track them with a bid and had it done. >> So a school did it. >> Oh, all was done prior to Yes. Okay, perfect. >> Yeah. >> So that would give us if if So we have

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this. So, so we do have 13,000 left over from from the move that we could apply to something >> because we have about $13,000 left in that account. >> So, again, that like we could transfer that do it now. I mean, do it >> require it would require

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>> Oh, hired. >> So, that that can be >> you need to be more ambiguous with your >> Yeah. So, that could be repurposed for anything really. It doesn't have to be restricted to that. We were just >> But it would make sense. It would make sense that it was targeted for here. Sure.

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>> Yeah. >> Parking lot improvements. I mean, to me, that's not that it's not needed, but I think we need to hear from Mark first that he hasn't got a bigger need in town. I do go back to the fact and people drive around.

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Man, I I haven't found a pothole in town yet, but they're all lease on me in Springfield. I got >> the line there. >> Yeah. Yeah. But >> very interesting. >> So I'm not sure if he's got a couple of roads that are high need right now. I don't think we heard that from him last time he was here.

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>> And Eric, I don't know if you've seen any, you know, major major road problems around >> roads are pretty good, but >> this also could be this al could be, you know, a drainage thing, >> right? >> Um they may say, you know, we've never

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addressed the drainage on Glendale or Warham Road or something like that. And we're also, if it's all right with the board, we're going to explore how to reduce some of the pavement in this parking lot. We think there's ways to do that. >> Well, really? So, so, so we think

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there's a couple ways to do it without losing parking spaces, >> first of all. And then I think we can also discuss whether whether we can have some reduction in parking spaces. >> Yeah, we have some meeting here. You technically have to have >> park on the grass. >> Well, they did that for the uh tree lighting. Yeah. >> Park in the rain garden.

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>> Park in the rain garden. Dr. Field, you said what? >> We really don't max out this parking lot >> except exceptice except once a year. So, I mean it's >> I know that, but I mean you can't restrict it because that would be like

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you didn't make it accessible for unless you're saying that we could the front row could now not be paved, but it could be a surface that can be parked on but doesn't need the upkeep that a paved surface does. >> Yeah. and and I don't know it was just

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something to possibly explore to save cost on the paving >> but not necessarily make any decisions that one of the things we had talked about was and I've expressed my concerns about the front row of uh pass through traffic

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between the sidewalk and the first row of parking >> and whether we could whether we could make that sort of a dead end and then u we'll have we'll have to look at it um and then curve that out because there's a spot there's a dead spot in the in the

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in the parking lot of just pavement that doesn't have any spaces in it and that would restrict the the pass through traffic that tends to go past quite quickly >> in areas where >> it's all throughout the day. I don't know where they're going but um traffic does kind of go quickly along that along

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that sidewalk where >> that's not your conflict especially with kids. Well, well, I've seen it. I've been here and I have seen them zip, you know, and obviously we have a concern. Heck, a lot of library the kids tra crossing during the uh you know, for play group on

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Monday. >> So, if we can if we could force that if there was a way that we could >> force traffic to away from the building into those two driveways, that would certainly benefit. >> All right. There's there a way talk to Mark about it. But I hate to say even

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like a curving thing coming off the entrance that pretty much makes the first way of travel coming in at the outside lane. And if they want to come park this way, they have to circle back and come back and park. >> Yeah. >> And that might be as easy as any almost

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like what we see a moon truck. >> Yeah. >> You know, you come around the building. >> You go around. >> Yeah. >> That would be if you make them turn and go right to the outside part. That's what you what you're talking about right there. >> Still

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chip and seal 30% of asphalt challenge. >> What do they What do they want for Green Meadows? You know, >> I don't think we've seen a specific request yet. I thought I I think on the capital plan there was a the automatic transfer switch, right?

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>> $150,000 generator switch. >> Yeah. >> $600 that year. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then >> Okay. >> Wasn't it the boiler was the big thing >> and I still go back because I heard I

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think like I think it was Dr. Slaughter talked about they been keeping some extent the maintenance fund for miniature >> and he's guesstimated it's got four 450 in it. Well, why do you think it's called a maintenance fund? >> To loyalty,

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>> right? There you go. So, I think they should look at that a little harder because that's why you have a maintenance fun. >> That's and we already fixed the boiler last year. I mean, >> you had to replace one last year. >> Yeah. Right. Anyhow,

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>> and the real property thing as well, >> you know, you know, that's that's why we do need to be with the advisory because these are things that >> they got to push to, >> right? >> Yep. >> Sounds north will never end. >> There's no going to get done.

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>> Anyhow, I think this is done because they had changed the the lot layout between the split lots. Um >> I guess >> you know we saw the request the same.

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>> So article 25 is the property on the other side of the river that is would be contiguous through mountain. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. They can make an argument for that. I guess >> I'm not sure that's going to I'm not sure that's going to be ready, but

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>> just just it says shouldn't that read the estate of Harold Janette Green? >> I thought it was owned by Buddy. I didn't think it was owned by Harold.

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>> Buddy's the right or something. So that this hasn't been fully vetted yet. This was >> which brings me back to the >> where where did this article come from then? Who brought this? >> From MLT >> MLT. Yeah. Okay.

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>> Which brings How much do they want for it? >> I've heard that was in discussion. Yeah. >> How much they have only have the conservation. Goes back to your other question. >> Go back to my other question. Okay. >> All right.

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>> Not a lot. Not that much, >> but not. >> Yeah, but we're asking to take it out from from community preservation fund, but if we could take some from the conservation fund, too, I suppose it would make any difference, right? Yeah.

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>> And then, but I don't think he owns I thought it was buddy green. I think I thought it was funny, too. Um, that's what you get in meetings in a small town. Wasn't that funny? like you know like Eric like isn't that Joe's

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right behind your house like you're not going to get that Springfield City Council coming um 26 that was Jerry came before us she was put is that that one Brian 26 would be the conservation restriction

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from the town to land trust for property purchase 25 >> what property was Brook phase is two. >> Thank you. Which is where >> my so I'll tell you what my assumption was and you know what that means.

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>> My my understanding is that is that if the town were to require article 25 then it would grant the restriction for article 26. But I don't know what the Westbrook face to >> I I I don't think Again,

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>> I don't think that's the same thing. >> You don't think so? >> No. >> Because I don't think that property would be called West Phase 2. We're just hearing about it now. I didn't know it had anything to do with the sharing was bringing that CR and property up on the South Road.

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>> I don't think that's said either. I think it's I thought we were dealing with Westbrook back in 2023. >> That wasn't the property next to the park, was it? remember Russ sold to the town or whatever >> maybe.

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>> Okay, great. >> I do have some emails on it, but I don't I think that's what it is, Don, because that was Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I think that's it. Okay, great.

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>> Got to figure that one out. laser >> and then a CPA request for laser grading at Nicum Field. >> What's that? >> Well, that's the upper ball field of the park. >> Yeah, I know. >> These are crazy to me.

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>> It's going to CPA. >> What? >> That's being presented to the CPA. CBC. >> Why? >> What do you mean? >> You mean why? >> What's laser grading? I I don't know. But all I know is that parks and rank are submitting an application to the CPC

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for that word. >> Okay. But upgrade your baseball field when we pay for a revolving funnel with 100 plus thousand dollar. >> We have you know how much this is. >> What's laser grading?

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Is that the >> very dangerous level? Very dangerous. >> Oh lasers can be. >> You don't need to have it level for kids. are supposed to play in I played on freaking >> no in Brooklyn where you

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>> kicked the beer cans out of the way and >> Oh my soul played on gravel. >> Yeah. Yeah, I did too. South grew up with us south of the spring. We were out in the street all the time. My wife reminds me you're not as you're

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not green kid anymore. Oh yeah. >> That's great. >> Okay. And then general law by >> what do we got? >> Uh general bylaw amendments the posting location. The time can only be done at a

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annual town meeting. >> Yeah. >> Amendments to regional school agreement. I think not. Are we sensing that's not going to happen? I don't think so. Yeah. on our >> respond to him. >> Did we have you were >> uh Yes, but not yet.

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>> Tractor can a baseball field. >> Busy time of year. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Levette says any farmer with a tractor can grade a baseball. >> I did it for years. You know, brought my No, I brought my uh you know, roatiller

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down and then Billy Wilson used to bring his over as well. And the town had a tractor with pretty much a piece of fence piece of fence >> that was just braided back and forth and it's still there. Heck, they have a scarifier that's over the thing with what takes

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the grass out of the in bill. Anyhow, uh the Peter Hatch thing done your is there actually a possibility of working past 70? >> I don't. >> And I know they like the fact he works on the engines stuff which is great. You know,

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I I >> Well, I asked I asked town council if there was a maximum age. >> They could not find >> Okay. I know they limit him right now. He can't be active in the fire. Therefore, >> but but there may I mean there's there's

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policy considerations to consider. You have somebody working. Um it's poss and it's possible that that the legislature would or it doesn't matter policy either because it's petition to the legislature. So >> can we find any example of them having

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done it for any other count that would go a long way beyond the age of 70. >> Yeah. >> I I did look quickly. >> I don't want to be the first >> Right. That's okay. There may have been one or two instances in fire chiefs, but

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don't quote me on that. >> Okay, think about that. >> So, I did have a conversation with with Chief Mullen about this and he was going to um he was going to do additional research and give back to me whether this would move forward or not.

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>> I mean, what Peter does for the m the uh trucks and stuff like that is great. But Kenny doing on a a volunteer basis or is there would that be a problem? Wasn't supposed to be certified to be on fire department?

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>> That that's a good question because we'll obviously insurance protection. So, >> you know, right now >> we're working on the trucks. >> Yeah, we're saving quite a bit by the fact we don't have to send them back to Bulldog at, you know, $300 an hour or something like that.

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>> All right. And I think uh guessing item 32 will be whatever it is and 33 34 going to be no action. So we're going to try and schedule a time for advisory to meet with us

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hopefully next week. I mean can bring uh treasur in because we get back into I mean the other impact on Eric was the you know the water district payown know how much that's taken out of budget.

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That is really I don't want to say the elephant in the room but that's the biggest number out there that is not a budget number. >> I'm a great believer in debt. >> I will say I maintain this is going to sound crazy but I maintain a spreadsheet of debt number back to '05 when I got

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elected. >> Our worst was 11%. Normally it's in the four to 5%. And it's been that way as they say the budget has grown and the debt has stayed the same. I we have the high school

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debt. We have the police station numbers. They've stayed static but budget goes up. So our percentage has dropped down. We really don't carry a heck of a lot of debt down the size. >> That's and I ra I would rather have the

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money going against the tax rate. I'd rather pay $50,000 a year than dump 400,000 500. >> I mean, I mean, my point is that's why you have a 30-year mortgage on your house. >> Well, made that point before. You know, back in the You remember back in the

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day, we buy a a dump truck. It was a override boat town meeting and it took us 10 years to pay it off >> and now we're like, "Ah, let's put it in this year and pay it off this year." >> It's a capital piece of equipment. I still don't have an answer on fire station. Oh,

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>> have we signed the contract with the uh architect? >> I received uh the copy of the contract town council today. It was forwarded to the design today. >> Oh, close. Okay. Election award. >> Yes.

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>> Could you check on the to choose to the housing authority? I think that's right. They might be planning for no housing authority two years old. is not going to run it. That's the

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5-year-old one. >> Y >> right. Sherry uh Bunch is not up until 2029, I think, or 28. >> Uh Amy just got elected, >> right?

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>> Uh my sister servant in 2028. So is there actually so why would there be another opening because the other two are appointments >> right >> reelected ones that mention >> there shouldn't even be it must be a miss >> but I think she did say there was a

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second park record >> you're right >> I think it's partly right >> I'm trying to find that email from >> Okay >> um Oh yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. >> All right. So, moving right along.

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>> Moving right along. Animal inspector. >> We're in favor. >> You want to have one? Okay. Great. So, Ryan suggesting that we, you know, we should appoint the same people. What do you think, Eric? >> I agree. >> I agree.

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>> Great job, Inspector. Doing a great job. Unless is there anybody else who wants to be the right I'll entertain a motion to reappoint Shelley Sears and Paul Morrisy as the animal inspector and the backup

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name of that >> Paul right because Sherry serve >> yeah inspector animals >> May 1st until April 30th why are these dates like this Don't know.

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>> I'll entertain a motion to change. Are we limited to one year appointment? >> I believe I believe we are. >> What? >> The state says so. >> Can double check it? >> Yeah, >> happy to double check. >> Double check that and see if we can

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change that second one June 30 to get them back on the right schedule. >> We're holding off on that. >> Yeah, because I mean let's get it back to, you know, rather these offear things done. >> Yeah, I know. the list. And what's the last one? Last thing is

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the request from the U old townhouse study committee to ask the legal council to take a look at the old townhouse documents, the town meeting warrant, and the deed to make sure there's no covenants in there that would

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kind of use for the building or to demolish the building or anything. Why don't we get Eddie? >> We don't have that kind of money. >> Remember him? He was the guy we hired for the uh school thing. The former city solicitor

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in Springfield. >> Yeah. >> So, >> nice guy. I didn't blame him. It was his job. >> Right. So they they just want to make sure that if there's any decision that you know they don't go down to some that >> What do you think Eric? >> Agree. >> Money well spent. Make sure we're

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covered. >> Yeah. I think we have to >> due diligence basically. >> Yeah. Due diligence bases are covered which we choose >> going forward. However, this gets back into a little confidence

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in brain. Is the board willing to I'm gonna say authorize the town administrator to respond to these seven requests for use of legal counsel? You know, I think you know we had no concomments

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like not by law. So >> that's true. >> Nobody. >> I apparently did. What were the chances? All right. So, uh

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motion to uh authorize the legal council to work with the I want to say this right to work uh with the town administrator on review of the deed and other documents associated with the town hall

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building on 625 Main Street. So, moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. Hi. >> Keep the bill low. >> Y >> shouldn't take long. We got We've got all the documents. We could just send it to >> I Okay, while they're researching that, research the property document for the

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partial W road. >> 30 plus acres. Got to have some value. Why is the town own it? Let's sell it. We're crying all out. Done. >> All right. Um Hey, what are you guys doing tomorrow night?

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What are you doing tomorrow night? >> I'm with Don. Still John Bole person. >> Pickle ball. >> Pickle ball. Oh, you're at the golf. We're going to be there being day that it is >> a high holy day.

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>> I thought he'd be at some He'd be at some other event. >> Really? Yeah. But John Bole or something out of it. He room's not around anymore. Okay, that'll be tomorrow night. Brian, what do you

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got? >> Mark and I had a meeting with Let me back up. So, remember the LEAP program that we applied for >> to have the um intersections studied. So, that got denied by the state because they were overs

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subscribed to the program and we didn't uh we didn't make it. Uh but they did set up a call. Uh Mark and I had a call today with Mass and Pine Valley Planning Commission and Pine Valley Planning Commission is uh I need to send them a letter tomorrow making the request, but

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they will fund it through the what's called the UPWP, unified plan of work program. That's the federal funding, the federal funds that are given to the NO. Um so they will uh they'll do that work under that program. Um it will be at no cost to the town.

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>> So this is started in October >> traffic study analysis basically or >> Yeah. So this so so they're going to call it a small corridor study I believe. So it's going to look at um Maine and Summers and then um the other intersection.

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>> How was that different on what Bob did before? Did he have a tip study done of that? No, I think I think those guys wanted to do a tip thing and we were reluctant to do it because >> so they will want to do that. So it'll

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be it'll be the traffic analysis, intersection analysis, traffic so the traffic count. >> So look at the whole picture corridor etc. with the whole picture of the corridor. Um and it will take us it'll give us recommendations up to a

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conceptual design and options that we there. Um from there um according to folks from Mass then it's then it's something that would be easier for them to fund moving forward

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kind of have a direction that we want. was right. I'll submit that letter tomorrow to >> make a run up to Belton over the weekend. And you're right. I went through a fairly small roundabout. Nothing like one, you know, you're more

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familiar with that Route Five and or where 91 you're rolling into there. >> Yeah. >> But this was one three or four roads and it was pretty tiny. >> Yeah. like almost at the Atkins, you know, those aren't huge over there.

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Maybe there is something but >> and they the I think it was I forget his last name. His first name was Gary. I think he was the transport the head transportation planner. He was even eyeballing that the the current uh

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rightway in that area. It's pretty close to enough rightway if that was the best option. Okay. probably pretty close to having but I don't want to uh I don't want to assume what the what the study would say but

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to move the flag wall again >> that's almost it anyways >> I heard from Mark they're going to try fixing it tomorrow hopefully the ground firms up yeah and >> it doesn't get hit for the second time in six months

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some reflectors on it put some reflectors on Speaking of that corner, right, didn't have a request. >> Oh, um, yeah, I forwarded that to to Chief Bruno. There's, uh, some folks who

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are interested in using that space to express their message to the public. So I forwarded that to Dan. So >> yeah, I mean >> see what his thoughts are. >> You'll recall I mean that's always been a corner for election time

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if not the corner in front of the gas station. >> So I don't know which is more dangerous really gas station one or that corner. >> Well, I mean the gas station one I have to say is more dangerous because you really got to get your wits about you. All of a sudden, you're waving over to

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Billy over here and the car stopped the turn on the main street in front of the whole area, >> right? >> There's a lot of turning conflicts to that intersection. >> If they were to stand on a corner, I'd rather stand on Shuin's corner, Don, because that's got plenty of room. >> Technically, they could go on any any

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sort of public space. >> So, Carnage, you know, with a white building, that's got a lot more room, a lot more visibility. But anyhow, what else? >> Yeah.

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Um, so working with uh National Grid on forever on uh the EV charging account. I think we have that straightened out. Uh I'm working on the schedule Z from the uh the uh Bonsville solar projects. We

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can reallocate the uh net major credits to this account. Um South Road Bridge, we touched on the bids a little bit. the B were received. We had a technical issue with the low bidder that we're trying to sort through. So, we haven't awarded we I haven't brought it to the

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board to award that contract yet because we're not sure which way that's going to go. We putting out uh cemetery's going to be putting out two bids soon. One is for mowing and then the other one is for uh the round uh I say the roundabout the

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turnaround at old cemetery that was funded prior town meeting. Um still have the administrative consent order for this building as do uh mass mass D finally sent us that final version that uh I need to read through

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closely but I think it's pretty much what we had asked for. I'm just call Scott they had reached out to uh Tony to talk about the regional dispatch dispatch budget and uh Tony had said that we should talk to

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Nick at Wilberham. So I'm going to reach out to Nick about that. Um mentioned transportation hall contract. We need to need to get that going. what we really need from the from Lori is the is the

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scope of work essentially for what we need and then we can put that out fairly easily. Um lot going on and we're still working uh for this building. We're still working at we're still trying to get a sense of the HVAC

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work that needs to be done. um you may be able to fund it through it was a it's a procurement provision that was adopted at the same time the green communities was adopted. So it allows us to essentially uh not go out

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to bid for energy conservation and projects that are around 300,000. So that might give us some uh might help save some time there. But uh again the focus is on the the library HBAC Now, I mean, we still have, if you will, the old town hall thing sitting out

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there. We have what I mentioned before is the I think the need to bring the the generator from the old town hall to here for better service to here. I don't even know if we have a number for that yet. Um, thank you her for mentioned fixing the

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wire problem. wires getting knocked down and that gets back into we're over there I want to say taking time away but it's a part of the day that isn't spent here

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if you will and that's a Herb and I were actually down in the building a couple weeks ago and the installation for the what you call broadband 123 is still running down there I don't know if we're still getting charged for It looks like, you know, they're

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blinking the CW margin slice is still up in there. >> Yeah, the servers there, right? >> Well, that's the other one in Jane's old office. You know, all that stuff's here. This is the uh the fiber inputs in that back next to the kitchen. >> Open that door. Everything's still

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running. When's that come out? Are we getting charged for? >> We are not getting charged for that. >> Right. received an invoice for a day after the cancellation that was not paid. >> Okay. >> Still still live.

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>> Yeah. So, and I had had a conversation. I think we need to have the conversation about how do we want to handle that building going forward? Um, is it too soon to make a decision based on what the old old townhouse committee is going to say?

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Um, do we drain everything and shut everything off, disconnect the generator? Sort of what do we do at this point? Because once we once we start draining things and shutting things down, then the building can deteriorate pretty rapidly. So, >> okay. I mean, obviously, we want to get

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worry about the cold time, but you're almost at the point where okay, >> yeah, we're almost first off, we didn't have hot water for the last four years there anyhow, so that's >> it was still not hot water, >> right? So if you don't have people in there, the heat thing is once you get

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that a point we say it's okay as of April 30th we're not worried about the warmth anymore, right? You know, so turn the boilers off or whatever. >> Drain the lines. But I still think we have to wait the inspections.

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>> Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Right. Then electricity. Um >> I don't know if we still want to keep that on. Is there there's still going to be people? >> I can't believe it's using much. I mean, you want to have building. >> Well, and to see your point, there's there's we would need to go through and

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see what's still running, >> right? So, I mean, you got to keep lights on. So, I can't that can't cost well a lot for just although seems like there that light outside never turns off on corner that flood light. I don't I

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have no idea where that switch is. if there was a switch that came with a building back in he design. Um so anyhow that's I think it's definitely

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needs to be talked about an end date for >> we'll take Herb's recommendation >> you know what we can start scaling down to keep the building or the uh the >> you know billing down but we're still paying insurance

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you know we're still ensuring bill that's doesn't go away Right. And that gets back into what's happening with the fire department building committee. >> If are they still kind of on hold with

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the design change based on what's going on there? >> I still think that's the answer to that is yes. >> I think they were I think I think the last communication we had was they were waited to wait for the designer to come on board. be able to see if it was feasible or not.

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>> They need to know what what the line on the left is, you know, how far it can >> again that contract I received that contract today and >> right. So hopefully I don't know how long that's going to take till they get an answer.

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>> Still wait a minute. >> Sorry. Sure. Did you have a question? >> I did ahead of you though. >> No. >> Oh, no. They're welcome. >> They're here for the cookies. That's it. >> I got too many questions. >> No milk today, Brian. Sorry, just cooking.

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>> All right. >> Yeah. My name is Bruce Boss. I live on Kelly Lane. >> I uh we see Ruth. Did you get that? Brute. >> It's from Kelly Lane. Bruce >> Clauss Foss. >> Thank you. >> Really? >> Yes. >> Was your wife Kathy?

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>> Kathleen. Yeah. Yeah. She was on the plane board with me. >> She was on the plane board. That's correct. >> You were the best truck driver in town if I remember. Weren't you? >> Yeah. finally retired quite a few years ago. >> Did you win the awards for like backing and stuff like that back in the day? >> Yeah, >> see there you go. Okay, that's me.

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>> Anyway, I recently received a email from illustrious Senator Ed Marky where he was patting himself on the back. I think he's running for re-election for all the wonderful things he's done for state of Massachusetts. >> Okay. >> And in that email there was a a link that said, "Click here if you want to

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see what I've been doing." >> All right. So, I clicked on the link just to read it and it was a report called the uh congressional directed spending report from Congress and it's 16 pages long of money that's being

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given to towns for many projects that sound exactly like the projects we have going on here in this town. And in the year 2026, our town isn't getting one penny. And my basic question is there a reason are we not applying for it or are we

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applying and getting denied or does Richie Neil not like us? I mean what's what's happened? Well, we've talked about this for years that we needed almost a person that was a grant administrator. Somebody you see these other towns just you said the school had

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almost a full-time grant person. Uh Flame, you know, the people who are in charge of it, they know how to do it. We've had good luck with grants. Heck, we just got that fire truck. FEMA paid for 75% of it.

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>> Well, more than that. >> 80% 50,000, >> right? The town kicked in 50, >> right? So, that fire truck from FEMA, great thing. It's almost like Brian is on board now. He's got more connections. We're going

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to expand that. You're right. We just saw and I think Don brought that up. We saw that uh Ash presented Munson with a million dollar check towards their fire department. >> Yeah. For the fire department. They got 7. Well, Conway got 700 for their fire truck.

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>> We're not looking to expand the personnel here, >> right? >> But sometimes you got to seed the ground with somebody to get something back. >> Many uh >> you know, you get you're paying you pay somebody $35,000 to for as a grant person, they bring in $2 million. That's

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money well spent. hired him on a percentage of the money. >> I looked into that back when Bob was here. No, Bob Marco was the thing. I wanted to see if we could hire somebody based on that, >> right? >> You know, you got us a grant for a 100,000, you got 2% or something, you know, but that type of thing.

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>> You're not allowed to do that. >> Can't do that. >> Okay. Well, like I say, I saw a lot of things like I know we're worried about the town, the old town hall. I saw that East Hampton got three and a half million for their old town, >> right? money for I don't know what the actual said renovation, >> right?

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>> But it wasn't given to the town. It was given to the company I guess I think we saw me Long Meadow got quite was that their CPA money for Long Meadow >> all those old buildings in Long Meadow. They got uh reimbured for it. I know you're right

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about East Hampton. >> Yeah. And then there are many many communities got money for their senior centers for improvements and renovations and stuff. But then there's other towns. You look at look at what the problem is. South Hadley or Hadley's got the huge problem right now. >> Hadley.

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>> Hadley. You know, their budget is I think they have a choice of two overrides. Was one 9 million and the other million for their schools? >> Yeah. >> So, right now we're we're trying to do what we can. We really are. I know your

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tax is probably like surprising some I wasn't happy with. >> Yep. But I don't see I don't >> I'm on a fixed income now, >> right? But we're now living in a lap of luxury, right? You know, we got these chairs donated to us from Mass Mutual. >> There you go. >> Vinnie got them I think 12 years ago. Yeah.

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>> So use everything we can. >> So anyway, that was my basic question when I >> Good point. Good point. >> So we're not >> So I hear from you, Bruce, is that you're retired and you'd like to be that person in charge of getting us free money. >> Uh is that what I heard? I wouldn't have

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a clue when I how to write one for grant requests. I'd have to do a lot of homework on that. >> Well, if anybody's online listening to this, we are looking for that kind of person. I mean, we know some people uh Amy's probably terrific at that. You

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mentioned I think the lady that uh Ryan mentioned that works for them lives in town, right? Heather, >> this >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I think there's people out there

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with that skill set that could help us, you know. So, you bring up a good point and thank you. >> Okay. Well, that was that was my sit here all the time. >> Thanks for coming. >> No, that's keep my weight. >> No, no, good. Listen to him. >> Thank you for your time.

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>> Thanks for coming in. Good to see you again. Hey, the boss. >> Thanks for looking at it. >> All right. >> All right. >> Motion to adjourn. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I'm sorry, Tad. Did you have something? >> Oh,

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my sister. >> No. No.