in >> now there is. >> How's that Carolyn? >> Sorry replacement like the replacement wraps in the end. >> Well, you're deleting yourself there. That was a while back >> before this year.
>> All right. So, we are broadcasting from the select board meeting room at the town hall. We are broadcasting over Zoom. We're also recording the meeting. Is there anyone else recording the meeting? Kristen, welcome Kristen. Okay. First on the agenda are the
minutes of March 30th. >> I can say that, but I don't see them. >> I do not see them. >> Not see them. >> Fine. Second on the agenda. Stop. >> A custodial position. Herb, we decide to keep you.
>> All right. Moving on to the next. Oh, sorry. >> Yes, sir. >> Nothing. Uh, this is Kathy. >> Hi, Kathy. Um, she applied for the consort position. We had two applicants
out of two. Um, we'd like to have her part of the team. >> I'd like to be part of the team. >> How many hours is this room? >> So, it's 10 hours a week, five hours per
day. You can take on Fridays. Tuesday, five hours, Fridays, five hours. That's 10 hours per week. >> Employment application. >> Missing a front page. >> I would think so because I mean there's no name.
>> Doesn't have your name anywhere on it. >> Signature. >> That was it. No, not you. So mystery person tonight. >> What? >> The front page. >> I don't know if it was you or it was us.
All right. So perfect. So you >> Kathy? Yes. Thank you. And you feel she can perform all the duties we need? Absolutely. >> Okay. The hours are okay with you. >> They're perfect. And if he needs more or different hours, I'm available for that
too because I now work at Tony Hill School. I've worked in the Wilberham all over Wilberham and Wilraham schools and I work during the day and then obviously summer's off. So if any more is needed or you know different hours, I'm available. >> Okay. So, this is a 10-hour week
currently funded in the budget for next year at this point as well. Yes. Right. >> And he told you the rate. >> He told you he didn't tell you the rate. >> No, I don't know the rate. >> Oh, really?
>> Volunteer service is a wonderful thing. It's not work. It's fine. No, just kidding. >> This is being recorded. >> All right. So, >> I assume we're competitive. >> Yes. >> Okay. With the school. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. >> It is. >> Okay. Well, I don't want to say I mean, if you have no idea what it's, you know, being compensated at, it would be like, oh, you got the job and then you come back and say,
definitely asked her after this. >> So um not for nothing but there are typical things um or check is there a need for bonding? I don't
think so. Even though she does go in the offices after hours and I'm not quite sure about that, Brian, but that was a concern with the last company we had. >> Is that something you can research? >> Yeah, I can. >> All right.
>> Whatever you guys need. >> I'm sure you check with the school already done. >> All right. She can go through the same procedure that school she does. soon as she comes on and spoof
that stuff, >> right? The other stuff bonding just has to do with access to some of the I want to say secure what places to have >> secure information. Any questions from the board? >> I don't know. Nothing really. You want to say something about high school?
>> Yeah. >> Where did you graduate? >> 92. >> I graduated 90 familiar. This gonna be a problem. >> No. >> All right. Just checking. >> No, not at all.
>> Good story at the bottom. >> Remember that football game? Remember that football? Okay. >> That probably was, but >> very well. Like >> that was 24 years ago. Who remembers 24 >> today? Doesn't it kind of kind of
>> Okay, I'll entertain entertain a motion offer the position to >> Gath Alex. >> So move. >> You can do that with your close personal relation. >> Yeah. It's been a few years. Yeah. >> Second. I'll second just in case.
>> All in favor? I Thank you. >> Good job. >> So, is it next weekend there's one last chance to go through the high school I saw on Facebook? >> No, Saturday. before it gets the Saturday the 11. >> I might I might >> Did you >> just to go and experience it one last time?
>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Very cool. >> Do you have any? >> Uh, no. I have all my kids that were all here. >> They're taking it down this next week or >> so. No. So, the East Lo High School is the new one's being built going I think in the fall, but uh the alumni and all
the people who attended have the opportunity to go through and go walk the halls just this upcoming Saturday. Oh wow. So >> took all the trophies out of the cabinets. >> It's kind of sad. >> Yeah. Great. >> It's fine though.
>> Thank you, De. >> Thank you. >> All right. So now annual town meeting one. Brian, you had a list of questions you thought we should consider. I do. >> So can you have them printed out or should
we refer to our email? Um I have a um to finalize the transportation budget hearings. Sure. Okay. All right. >> You good? >> Yep. So, done.
>> Yeah. All right, then. Want to be in on that? Okay. That's done. All right. Um, are we keeping the 150th article on the warrants? >> I'd like to keep it on personally just to keep the attention on it. >> Agreed. >> Okay. We've heard from people that we
need to >> and now we're down to >> take no action, but people will know it's not >> probably no action, but we're down to two years. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Um, loader article. >> I would say no. I think the board should
take All right. So Mark talked to the state. He got back to me and said chapter 90 will cover the loader but not the plow. No snow equipment. The state aid engineer recommended leasing and paying the lease with
chapter 90. Um >> how much was did you get revised quote Tyler? >> I think he still had it in the 200 range per purchase. Since we've got it, since we didn't use it for the bridge, since it's left over, I really don't see why I would lease it,
not just buy it, buy it, you know, why put another debt for later. >> Does he give price of the leasing? >> That was before he had 30 to 40. >> I mean, it was based on last time the lease was significantly I figured out was 15 or 20% more than the purchase price. Um,
>> and then we don't we have to we have to take it for x number of years. >> X number of years. And then at the end of that you got to renew it and it was going to cost us an extra whatever it was I I don't remember the exact number the 10 year period is going to >> well it's going to run out. So, it only cover two years of lease. Anyway,
>> um the plow thing, first off, we got a plow says the plow we have now won't work. And we're talking about one of the loaders was most of the time left at the garage to load salt. The
newest one went out and plowed. So, technically, you only need one plow for the two loaders and we have two plows. I don't think that's an issue. I'd like to bring it to the board that we just go ahead by next week direct Brian and the highway superintendent to buy the loader
out of last year's captain. >> Yeah, I think it help to bring a a chapter 90 project to you, right? A you prove chapter 90 projects before the >> Now the one thing is I believe we front the money and get reimbursed from the state for chapter 90 projects.
>> It's reimbured. It's reimbured, >> right? So, >> so yeah, >> verify with the pressure that Yeah, you can cover it. I want to make sure the timing works, >> right? >> Um, but I think we should take off the warrant. Just get it done. >> We've been kicking that around. Let's take Let's take something off our plate.
Okay. >> All right. So, that answer is no loader on the warrant. >> So, there was >> Yeah, there was a senior Senate building committee meeting this morning, right? >> Right. So, Herb was there. Um, and I think the bottom line of it was
since we looked at the wording of the amended article, the article from last fall that repurposed, the money left over, not the new appropriated money, but the money that was repurposed.
The wording added the use of HVAC to it, not repurpos. So, it's still can be used for windows. >> Correct. So, the committee would like to go ahead and spend 50,000 of that to get the windows done. Now, since the Hback quote was so bad in terms of the appropriate money,
they're going back and looking at different things to do instead. Her herb brought some plans to them and they're hoping to still fit a different idea inside the leftover money. Basically, her right, correct? You had a couple ideas. So, so at least
get one thing done. They had a presentation on windows around $4950,000 Herb, >> right? And they would like to recommend to that that order go through Herb and Brian as the facilities manager
of money that exists. >> They're clear windows. They're white trim. And what else do you need to know? >> You never know. Not the stained glass ones though. Those stay on what kind of uh you know
>> No, the the the previous warrant article just added havoc to it. >> The one that repurposed the leftover money, the new article specific for HVAC, right? So the 120 left over could be all to be used for HVAC. the 130 that
was added to it, only HVAC, >> right? >> So, this will come from the 120 and leave 70 left over. >> And they're hoping with a new plan for HVAC, the 200 would be enough to get that done, >> right? Or we can just split it off
>> or go into a multi or we can just split it up, >> right? >> We could get some some of the work done. >> So, kind of like the pro what is the exact process they're recommending going? I don't think they can vote that. They can vote to bring it forward.
Does the board vote to expend that? It's clearly in the purpose of the warrant article. We have a quote in our hand. Do we just authorize go ahead and place that first order? >> Well, we can't swallow the bid. >> Need a bit. >> I thought it didn't. I thought that's what you said.
>> It's We got to get three quotes on. >> Okay. I thought it was on that guy was on state contract. >> Oh, he's not. Well, he's looking into it. >> So, he's not in combines at this point. >> He He's looking into it, John. He doesn't um
But again, I think if we I think it'll be a the price he came in. I don't think anybody's going to beat that price >> as long as they >> word correctly. You don't want to get all of a sudden a guy from >> So, we got we got to get three quotes. >> Okay.
>> And um I talked to him this afternoon. He's gonna he does do some work with some energy saving groups. >> So, he's gonna look into it and see because it runs different like we're running the program here, the energy savings group where we don't have to put
out the bid. >> Yeah. >> Um so, he's going to dig deeper into this and see if he can see where he stands with that. Um and then he'll definitely have an answer for me tomorrow sometime. >> All right. So backing backing up then so
we're not issuing or however this is the plan going forward that we're going to use 50,000 around that of the money appropriated for the roof windows etc the 120 for a window replacement.
>> Okay. >> Regardless what they do >> but so you're going out to bid then or you're getting quotes. So we have to get quotes because it's under >> it's over. >> So for building construction contracts
um if the estimated project costs 10 to 50,000 then then it's a process where we have to advertise in the combis on combis center register and we need to solicit three price quotes from people who customarily perform that work. >> So it's not a bidding process per se.
It's a >> It's a advertisement and folks >> if we're over 50,000 and then then we're into the we're into bidding. >> You're right around 49 or under 50,000. >> I know, but I mean so timing wise you're
looking at a month. >> So Becky is >> by timing it or advertise the whole thing and >> the advertisement process will will take probably about it's about three at minimum it's three weeks. >> Yeah. >> Okay. uh if if if they're on a state
contract or if they're with a a group purchasing organization like Sorthwell or Mass High Education Commission or it's qualified project under some of U it's called it's not called a stack but it's similar legislation to that then there's $300 threshold for $300,000
threshold for energy savings projects that you can hire directly for every source of national for a project like this do the window people have to pay prevailing weight Yep. >> Awesome. >> Anytime we spend any money really penny
of money if it's one of those eligible categories. >> So he came out with a quote he came out with a quote of 60 68 or 69,000 and then he called me up later in that evening and said, "Hey, open email. We
just sent you another quote." It came down. So he took off almost 40,000, >> right? But he he's still figuring it's got to be prevailing wage. >> Exactly. So where is still talking? We'll we'll make sure that okay following all the
>> anyhow. So bottom line on that that's where we're going. >> It's not going to happen tonight, >> right? >> And Becky's asked for that project start in June. >> So yeah, >> we have some time. >> Of course. >> But the question is So are we taking the
windows replacement off the wall? >> I would say yes. Right. That's the question. >> Right. But here's the set that why we're taking it off. >> Yeah. Okay. >> All right. >> Mhm. Minute capital request.
>> It was presented us as part of the assessment, but in the past historically, we've listed that on the warrant. The whole conversation about and and so if we so their their their is their position is that it's supposed to
be together. If we have it separate and we vote against it separately then that screw screws up the whole regional budget for lack of a better word. >> Starting to sound like Trump now screws up the whole budget >> and uh they have to go back
>> right but they're doing the process because that's what works what they want to do. But I think for people who are voting on it, it makes sense to separate it because it's just easier. I'm not saying that people don't understand it. It's just easier to understand when if people are like, "Well, I want this, but I
didn't want this." You don't have an opportunity to >> to to to state your mind. >> What do they want? >> One big fee. We did it in the past that this way, right? Or was that a thing that got shot down, >> right? But it's always been that way because the danger is that okay, you get an assessment amount here because it
included that much capital. Next year it goes down to here. Oh, the school budget dropped a lot. It didn't drop crap. Capital went off and next year all a sudden it goes up to here. Whereas the actual school thing should have been like just growing your four to five% on an annual basis,
>> right? >> So, do you want to make it separate? I think yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes. We all we're all in agreement. >> I mean, look, we're already doing it. Heck, they can say it wrong. Anyhow, we had the the debt voted separately as
part of the budget and technically if you're going following this logic, it would be the same appropriated number, >> right? CPC. Um, at this point there is, I think, only one
project that requires an appropriation from the CPC fund. There are two other things that require CPC recommendations, but no money. one is North Road project and the other
is a potential article to uh revoke CPC for the town of Han and I will tell you if you're looking for that language it happened probably 15 years ago I think Don right it came
up I think the minimum it had to be no earlier than five years after adopting CPC and I think was either in the fifth or sixth year after we had we approved it and that language was embedded back then. So
>> Brian, so >> I can pull that up for you. >> They need the ballot. It need the ballot vote after that. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Okay. So >> well sub subsequent to a positive vote town meeting. Yeah. Otherwise last time it failed at town meeting it was on the ballot but it meant nothing.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. So, we need to tell Eva. >> We need to I mean, this came up out of the blue at the last meeting. So, right, >> I know that there's >> she needs so many days notice.
>> I think it's at least 35 days. I I think I read as much as 35 days. I I just need to know this going forward with this. >> Yeah. >> Um and CPC's meeting this week sometime >> tomorrow night. >> Okay. So, we'll have a better idea of
that yes or no whether Yeah. recommend >> if you could provide Doug clarification on the the time thing >> because if we don't make the time thing for the bot well the ball 18th should be >> so it's 18 days and then we know it's
today >> six so 24 >> 42 or so >> close right the question is to me >> is it a separate warrant article or part of the CBC basically
omnibus warrant article. >> I think it needs to be separate. >> Okay. >> It's kind of exclusively knocked out. >> Yeah. >> I just back it up real quick. The article for the roof the senior center.
Are we doing the the roof is staying on? The windows off or the roof is staying on? I'm just looking for >> taking the whole article off. >> Take the whole article off. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. All right. >> And then >> I just sent you an email about the uh
regional school district agreement amendments that superintendent to send you guys forward to. >> Okay. >> You see it? >> No. I was looking at Brian's list cuz he didn't print it out because we're out of paper cuz he's too cheap.
>> Yeah, budgets are tight. >> Handwriting the article for Peter and I think we got the guidance from the from the chief that he doesn't think it's allowed anyhow. So, right, he can't find any other justification for firefighters
over 70. So, he's going to come up with a job position for mechanic, which is fine. That's his strength. Let's use them for that. >> Okay. >> You know, >> so that's >> so that article will come up. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> All right. So, the only other question Brian had was the regional school district agreement. And you just sent us a thing. Let's see. You said the thing. >> Okay. >> Just got it >> 11 minutes ago. >> Can you find it? Language. >> You sent it to us during the meeting.
What were you Why were you checking your email during the meeting? >> I was >> It's basically sports course. >> Oh, this is promising. This is >> really points for an
>> It basically says they need more time. angle communication parts appear in time maybe needed to hammer out technical details. >> All right. So in his opinion he thinks >> you maybe need some more time to hint to nail it.
>> That's the that's the general gist I got from it. But it gets so I think you said 90% of the regional agreement proposed changes are fairly wrote and agree >> textbook you know kind of cookie cutter I should say
>> suggestions from desi that really make no difference to how we implement it. Should we propose that we put those changes in and get those done or is it sound like John wants to take one bite of the apple?
>> I mean that sticking point that paragraph is >> I mean it doesn't really quite address that. It just says it needs more time to find out some technical details. I mean, but if we we vote on 90% versus the 10% the 10% is the
90% is great, but I think that 10% the seems like the important. >> I know. >> Not that it's not all important. You're saying >> we're just kicking that can down the road. It's just >> we're getting closer. >> All right.
>> All right. So, are we keeping it on >> John's ready? >> Yes. This is John saying I don't think we're going to be ready for the annual town meeting. >> Well, it's we held it on at their request. So, if they're saying is he saying this on behalf of the school committee or the school
I mean the request comes from the school for you to address >> this is from John. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Language is not yet ready for the current. >> Yeah. So, it's
it's not ready. All right. So, I will entertain a motion to reopen the annual town meeting. >> So, move. >> All in favor? I. >> So, looking at the current one, we have
non reports. Yes. Spending limits, yes. Library, yes. The senator ah assessor's funding, yes. report of the old townhouse committee. >> Okay. >> No, >> fine.
>> It look blank over there. Yes. >> Report old town. >> Are you giving a report old town house or is AI doing it or chatbot or do we need that there? >> We will we'll give a report to tell. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Or some AI person.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Somebody >> annual operating budget. Fine. Enterprise fund. Yep. 150 explanation. School resource. Yep. Prior year bill. Yep. Wheel loader comes off. Roof and window comes off.
>> Uh, is that the cap 14? Is that the capital? >> Yeah. >> Okay, fine. >> CPC repeal CPC more CPC grant grant observation revolving fund amendment.
Okay. 22 is coming off. 23 is coming off. Wow. We'll be out of there by 8. Uh we are you agree we're cutting at 6:30 now? >> Pending uh an general office
is requested >> clarification. If you do chat with her, you could ask the I'm looking for the minutes from November or October 25 to go on the website. >> Oh, yeah.
>> Is that the county one? >> No, the one we had left. Yeah, right. Coming soon. I had a copy. You had emailed us, but I mean it'd be good to have them on there. All right. Okay. Motion to close the warrant. So
>> second favor. >> When we're pretty close. When do you think we want to sign and get it out there date right now? I mean we want to give the final copy pre
in the past. We've always had the draft warrant in the town report at the back. It's April. Town report's not out yet. If we could make a shot at that, I mean, if we could find out where we are, we must be close.
You know, pop it in there and just, let's see, today is the 6th. We have basically just about a month down meeting. The advisory hearing is 21st.
>> Yes. >> I believe the only issue or the only two issues are still outstanding relate to CPA. >> The actual language you mean? >> Yeah. >> All right. Let's see. Dr. Doug, I'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. We'll see if we can put that to bed. If we can get
that language together, can the board see its way to say we're going to post the post it in the week of the 13th? >> Yes. >> Okay. If we get that language >> and I have Yeah. Town town council queued up to >> review it this week. >> Okay.
>> Well, we just deleted five articles. Our job is that much better. >> A lot of the system that regional agreement maker quite happy. >> All right. So, we're going to aim for the 13th, you said. Sorry. >> Yeah. The week of the 13th. Yeah. To
post it. Yeah. Six months. Regional agreement update. >> Okay. Regional agreement update. So, the planning committee met uh last week or the week. Last week, I guess, and uh there was discussions about uh Ryan and
Nick had met previously. Both had done notes of the meeting. So, we got copies of notes. I sent them along to you. And uh you know the whole thing is around the middle school and the capital how much money a capital we have children there. Um I
they they talk about a cap about doing a cap saying okay we'll spend x number dollars per year >> to do whatever maintenance whatever is needed. Would you guys go along with that? I said I would have to check with the board. Uh in Nick's in Nick's memo,
you'll see that he said like a million dollars over six years and you know so our share would be roughly 20% of that million dollars over six years, you know, divided by six years. the superintendent said his main concern that they weren't intending to do a lot
of expensive repairs because they're in the you the core program and uh but the question is that the core program may say not this year you got to apply again next year and that may go on for three or four years before that happens so
that that's that's the issue there uh but I think the people in both in Wilberham and have ham have to realize that that middle school is not conducive to learning and it has a number of physical defects that have been there for a number of years that have not been
addressed and that we're headed down the road to spend tens of millions of dollars either in renovation and addition or a new new middle school. The question is what do we do for the kids between now and the new middle school? And that's where the hang-up is. I think
we're pretty adamant in the fact that we don't want to pay for capital things that should have been taken care of 10 years ago and never were. >> But I do think we probably do have some obligation to take care of the maintenance things to keep it running properly in in the meantime.
>> This year they put $105,000 into maintenance in for the middle school in the it's in the regional budget. So we're paying 21% of that anyhow. Is that the way to go? That's the issue. The Wilberham bottom line is Wilberham
wants select board wants to meet with us again and see if we can't hash it out. >> Your thoughts? >> Um, I don't think much has changed over the last, you know, absolutely let's let's have a meeting, but I think kind of to reiterate, I think we're we're
unanimously agreement that anything that was kind of pre-existing we shouldn't be responsible for. Um whereas if anything you know from that date we come to an agreement forward if it's a crack in the wall we need to repair then that's on both towns to to repair that >> right
>> obviously just a just a hypothetical situation but um and you know that I think we're kind of okay with that it's just pre-existing stuff that was identified from before it should be on lower to take care of that but also I I get that you didn't
want to spend millions of dollars on a sinking ship essentially Um, and I I get that, but I also we have an obligation to keep the teachers, staff, and children safe and ventilation and whatnot. So, I definitely think that there should be some repairs done, and I
think that's what we'll have to come to an agreement on. >> I mean, you made the point before about endless meetings where nothing changes, which is very valid, >> but we have an obligation at least get some conversation on it. So, if there's
something new we can talk about and really get off the dime, let's make it happen. It's going to be >> and do we have a projected date? We talk next week. >> Yes. I bring it to the board and see what you wanted to do. >> Let's offer them a date. >> Okay.
>> Um, is it our turn to go there? >> I mean, obviously they've been here. >> I think it's four times. >> I think it's our turn to go there. >> We should go there. Have they been to our new town hall, though? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. in the >> not the new room but >> no we met down there. Yeah. Well, I
remember that's the one. I saw this is not productive. See you later. Right. >> That was a couple things be several different here. >> Or is that the highway negotiation? >> Might be might, right?
>> We can go either place. >> We go. Let's go there. Send us a map. We'll find our way. We'll go there. >> You see me on Mondays, too. I did I did suggest to them that that if the core program did have a new middle school we need a new middle school that we have some nice property out back here that
they would we'd very be happy to donate to that they could build a new middle school. >> There we go. Um timewise so they meet Mondays. We meet Mondays. >> Yeah. >> Uh that might be a thing. What are we
looking at next week, Ryan? uh >> only because the week the week after is obviously our hearing >> right >> if we said I don't want to kick this along we said okay we can meet with you next week what are we giving up
>> well we need to prove the warrant sign the warrant >> we're talking about doing that next week >> again same thing if we said look >> and I don't care if we meet at 5:30 we take care of our stuff and we're on their agenda for 600 6:30 or something like that
dot That's fine. >> Yeah, >> we meet here and do our >> right >> just do have an accelerated >> because I think next week most of the stuff we do is just >> prep anyhow. >> So So if I might for that for that meeting I think one of the critical
issues is going to be what's maintenance what's what are we willing to pay for? What's what do we consider maintenance and what do we consider capital costs? One of the things, one of the things that both you and Nick put in there is that the region should come up with a list
>> of projects that need to be done, >> which they typically have an annual basis. I mean, I remember seeing the ones from here. >> What? >> Something sub capital >> sub capital >> like >> Well, yeah, but they play with that. Don will remember the famous floor issue that was sub capital until it became
capital because of the money amount, right, Don? >> Yep. Because I mentioned the money. >> Yeah. Well, let me throw another room in. >> Well, I think however we define that that's going to be that's kind of the secret or not. >> So, maybe you send maybe maybe will you say like or we'd be happy
to meet with you on such as other date at this time. Uh number one on the agenda is figuring out what's capital and what's not capital >> with the assumption that candidates willing to fund
non- capital items. that >> would be like would be routine maintenance thing like like like Eric said, you know, if there's a crack after a crack appears in the wall, well, we got to fix that. >> Unit's broken. >> Yeah. A roof starts leaking, you got to
patch it up. You know, anyhow, let's offer them for Monday. Let's see if between you and Nick, we can get some clarification of what they're looking at here. And so we're not just going in for another exercise. I'm sure they want to get progress, too.
>> Yeah. And it Don did bring up that that I do agree. Right. It's the district that's going to have to provide >> what those maintenance are. >> Um but I think for if I put myself hand in shoes, it's you know, it's not
something that increases the value of the building where you know that to me that that's capital. Um, it's something that makes the learning environment >> safer, better, >> safer and better for the for the kids for the next six or seven years.
>> So, it's a roof repair. It's not a roof replacement. It's a >> window repair, not a replacement. It's >> unental or whatever fix. Well, I mean, fixing the door, is that maintenance or is that capital? >> They almost call it break fix versus,
>> you know, installation, right? capital, but I would view it as more capital is more an installation of something where something breaks and it needs to be fixed. Break fix is more of a maintenance kind of item, right? >> But it's symptomatic of a different thing, Don. We talked about that a year or so ago when we talked about
computers. Computers should not be capital computers are part of the budget. It's like buying new books every year. You buy computers every year because that's part of the curriculum, but they throw in capital because oh my gosh, what you should be figuring it in. So some of these things here could be
figured at the maintenance as opposed to throwing out a capital mean switches. We're seeing hundreds of thousands of switches. Do you have to do them every year? Can you do a few switches a year? Okay. If there's 25,000 in the budget every year for Right.
But that's how you keep the budget down by throwing it over to capital, right? Okie dokie. >> Anyhow, >> right. Okay. Building use applications
request from Theater Guild for referral and production. Okay. How's that work out with our what is the date of our typical fall town meeting? >> Looks like the 26th to be the last
Monday. >> So that's yeah typically aimed for the last >> Monday. >> The last Monday in October. pushed it by one week this past fall because there were concerns over free cash being certified in time.
>> Okay. But it looks like they would they would finish before town meeting >> day before. >> Yeah. Okay. >> How did it go with the show here? Were they cleaned out? Were they cleaned out pretty much by the next day? >> Okay.
>> You know, like sometimes on Broadway they're held over what happened to me. I'm sure he would only he would pray that would happen. Why you don't help? No, never mind. Fine. All right. So,
and the last show I did see a copy of the insurance and I did forward back to you, Brian. >> Okay. So, they are covered. Uh, did they pay for their use?
>> Uh, I believe they paid for the previous Right. The one that just closed, right? Okay. Y All right. >> So, we Yeah, we have insurance, we need the security deposit, and then the payment. >> Okay. Any issues with the last show?
>> Did you see it? >> Yeah. Pretty good. Pretty good, bro. Good show. Good. Yeah. I've never heard of it. >> All right. Uh, how's the board feel about these two applications?
>> Approval. A second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> All right. Subject to security deposit insurance and uh they pay for the performance nights. Of course, after the
show closes, that's going to get their money, right? until the auditions I think are in a week or so if you guys are interested until >> Don the auditions are in a couple weeks by the way
tell you what you don't even know what the show is and you're already spreading it I do know what the show is I saw this have bigger cookies I can't remember tipsy The next show is Gypsy. >> Oh, Gypsy. I can't I can't That's why I can't be in the show because I can't
remember the name of the show or my lines. >> You got to say it. >> Yeah. Little same little dance. >> All right. Uh animal inspectors.
The Warren had followed up with uh the state and they said those are the terms that they provide us. email. >> Okay. >> Why couldn't we line up? >> And that's because the state,
>> don't they? >> We don't have to do anything with this. We already >> we didn't have to vote. >> Right. >> See, >> so Shelley is the animal spectum. Paul is the alternate. >> Okay. for the term as listed by the
state. >> May 1st May April 30. >> April 30th. >> Okay. >> You're making that motion. >> Okay. >> Seconding that. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. Thank you.
>> Congratulations, Shelley and Paul. Great. >> That'll teach them not to show. Oh, they only they only inspect domestic animals. >> Define domestic. >> No. >> Okay. Fire station architect contract.
Finally. I thought we had voted this before. Subject to whatever legal sign off Ryan says. Maybe we didn't. So, in the abundance of caution, we are doing it again. contracts right to your
>> Yeah. So, we have the contract been signed off by Legal Beagle and we need a a vote of the board to execute it. >> Uh, entertain a motion. >> Yes, I will. >> You will?
>> Yes. >> I'd like to make that motion. >> I like to make the motion. I'd like to make a motion. >> How much is he getting? Yes. >> Okay. >> Good. >> All of it. All of it. Um, so it's broken down the total. It's broken down in a day there. The totals uh 595,000.
>> That includes everything from uh schematic design to final design uh administring administration oversight. And >> one last one my mind
>> uh civil and engineering cost. >> Okay. So, looks like I get this clear. We got a $8.3 million bond, >> right? >> Not to exceed, right? >> Not to exceed. >> Yeah. >> We have 475,000
for the for the project manager. >> Yes. >> And 590,000 for the divine. >> Yes. >> So, we have over a million dollars and we haven't even moved blade of grass yet. >> Correct. It's on a lot of like the MVP stuff.
>> Remember that stuff? >> I'll do it for >> Oh, Laughing Brook. We spent how much in and we never on a shovel of dirt. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, Eric made a motion. >> What happens if we don't
pull any dirt? >> We got some great drawings. >> You We'll have some drawings. >> Well, we need this to move forward to >> Yes. with whatever. >> Yeah. >> Whether we go with the original or a modified project or, you know, other
options, I think we need to take this step to get there. >> Who is the OPM on this? >> Yeah, it's a lot of money. CMS, >> a lot of money. I >> mean, this is this is the trouble with these projects. You're spending a
million dollars and there's not a blade of grass moved and then you got x number of contingencies in there and I can tell you right now the contingencies will miraculously show up. >> Another million dollars for that. So you
got two million bucks still haven't >> then you got the fee for the bond. >> Feel your frustration. Yeah, a lot of money in soft costs and not to mention gas is now a dollar cheaper. I mean more expensive.
>> Okay. >> And after all that motion >> there was thank you. Thank you. >> All those in favor of Eric's motion. >> I I thank you. Wow. Here.
Now, what we got? >> Okay. >> Okay. The board of health is going to give us an update. >> On the uh great horse on the complaints of uh >> So, we've had some complaint We have we've had some complaints in neighbors
of Greyhorse about uh nuisance >> specifically the farm >> the farm. the farm. I remember the farm, excuse me, the farms uh and complaints about uh the nuisance of a large manure
manure pile there um and activity around their manure pile and it's producing black flies during the summer and you know typical smells of nuisance type things. It's the right to farm. We have a right to farm town so there's a we're
limited in what we can do. Uh I met with Ryan Paxton, our health chair health director and with a member of great horse discuss the situation. Uh there was he said that the pile would be
diminished significantly in four to six weeks. Uh we asked him a number of questions about the operation that was there particularly the fact that USA hauling trucks were bringing apparently bringing uh face from other areas in
Butters took pictures of that. We have pictures of that. We've contacted D it wasn't their issue by the Massachusetts Division of Agriculture Resources. We checked with the Massachusetts Division of Agricultural
Resources. They said that uh now really it's really a D problem. You should call him back. Ryan has called him. So, we determined what he probably needs to do is to have the uh farm the the people
who manage the farm and some of the abutters us meet and have a meeting together and try to resolve the issue because under the right to farm bylaw in town if a person filed a a formal complaint then the select board is required to resolve it. So, that's where
we are. So, we'll probably have a meeting with the group and see if we can't resolve Okay. So, you'll report back as you have. >> Okay. Great. Thank you. >> Too committee update.
>> Oh, there go here. >> Maybe we want to wait longer. Maybe they'll go. The lights go off. I'll leave. Um I'll bring you up. >> But let you let you bring up the update. >> Okay. when we've been meeting every week and discussing a lot of matters
regarding the old townhouse. Uh our survey is this week. Uh we're going to have a community forum on the 28th, right? And uh we'll be at the scenes on the 24th. The issue that keeps raising
its head is what's going to happen with the fire station because if a fire station expands that way towards the townhouse that may limit uh if someone wants to buy it or take it over or you
know because they're going to lose parking. >> Wasn't that also hampering the fire department? They want to know what you're doing first so they can do that design. So people like no what are you doing? So the issue was that we're going to meet with the fire fire. Is that correct? We decided we're going to have
a meeting with meet the fire department and see exactly what >> building. But the point being is that there'll be no real recommendations coming to the town meeting just an update to the people you know. >> So you're having something at the senior
center on the 24th >> and you were having something here I thought >> calling on the 28th. We were going to have it the 14th, but we didn't have enough time to get everything ready. And we're getting more information in. So, >> we have it on the 28th, right? >> 28th.
>> 28th because Tad, we were going to have it on the 27th, but Tad has to go. >> Oh, no. No. We are having a golf day. >> We just moved to half an hour. We moved it to half an hour. Thanks for your combination. What about
your golf? I don't golf on that day. Great. Thank you for your service. >> All right. All right. So, we have a couple of board of health things here, Mr. Chairman. We do apparently. Oh, yeah.
Well, didn't we already do this >> first of year? >> I thought so. >> I believe is that the the starting date? Yes, Mr. Per operate a food establishment great starting gate. >> I believe the health director has
informed us that there should be two separate establishments should be treated as two separate establishments. >> Oh, the banquet house and this is like >> Yeah. >> All right. We're starting it is the banquet house. >> There's the big building where they have the weddings and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. >> Starting and then the
>> the actual food establishment restaurant. Okay. No need a motion. >> So moved. Second. All in >> favor. So food permit for annual food. >> Do you need us for this John? The I
thought did this one. Okay. This one here is this is a permit for a disposal work installed permit subject for Wire Enterprises LLC 538 Summers Road
expires on Well, here we go. Forget it. This one's no good. >> Huh? >> Does it says this here? It says the date April 6, 2022 expires December 31st, 2025. No septic cleaning for you.
>> No room for you. >> I just have >> Yeah. Can you give that to Brian? >> I'll be able to just >> I don't understand that. >> Oh, the request. >> Yeah. >> I don't know why. I don't know. >> I don't understand. I mean,
>> yeah, it doesn't need to take a vote. >> I don't think it's right. >> Probably going >> Yeah, but I don't think it's right. I mean, is that a paid holiday? >> We can talk about it after. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> All righty. So, that's all the agenda items. Uh, member report. Uh the only thing I have to report is for last week it was talking about how Spectrum reached out to Brian and and myself and gave us an update on the symmetrical speeds.
>> So I personally reached out to Spectrum. >> I had a modem shipped at no charge because my mo my existing modem was not compatible. I installed it and I currently have symmetrical upload and download speeds of almost almost a gig. I currently pay
for one gigabyte up and one gigabyte down. And um wired I'm getting very close to that. And wireless I'm also getting very close to that. >> So wireless cost or is it just >> Yeah, actually for me personally it saved me $5 a month by doing that.
>> And the route the the modem is for me was free of charge. So u they sent it out. I literally I called them at 6:30 p.m. on Thursday. I had it in my it was on my doorstep at 11:00 a.m. the next morning. I had >> You did the work yourself? >> I did the work myself. The self install
was very easy. You just go on the app, you follow it. And when I did my download speeds, my upload speeds, I was like, "Holy cow, >> it so far so far so good." So, as residents were looking to get those symmetrical speeds and they do offer, I think it was an extra
give or take $20 a month um for the two gigabyte speed um which I don't personally need, but um I'll start with us. But yeah, that that's exciting. Anyway, we're >> and the easiest way to do it was with your account by logging in and requesting this.
>> Yeah, I tried well I tried to do it through the app and there was an error that I got. So I had to call the number uh the you know spectrum and I got a hold of somebody and they're like, "Oh yeah, no problem. We'll send that out to you. Do you want to go to a store close the store? I think it's in Chaby or you can have there. The one next to Big W
next big wine memorial drive." I think it is. There used to be one though that is no longer there. Oh, that's not big. >> Yeah, those that's gone. So, they said you could either pick it up or we can mail it to you. And I was like, you know, I'm not that big of a rush. You mail it to me. And it literally 11 p.m. I had it overnight. It was at my doorstep at 11:00 a.m.
>> Now, they give you a self mailing to the old one. >> No. Uh, that one they didn't ask for that one back. Um, but >> show up on your bill. >> Yeah. Uh, that that one was also not um Well, actually, take it back. That one I own. I bought that one myself and I
managed that one myself. But if you're renting one, I'm sure they'll send you a but. But I at least the last also I remember, don't quote me on this, I think you can go to like any UPS store and they just package it up and ship it back at no cost. >> Is this one built in wireless too? >> Uh, this is just the actual modem
itself. So you have to get your own route. >> Yeah, I have my own mesh system that I use. So when I installed this um and I have the the uh 6E speeds >> for um internet and it's it's fast. I mean, I I can get if I'm near if I'm
right next to one of my mesh systems, I can get up to 900 down and 900 up on Wi-Fi. And Wi-Fi is unregulated. There's no they don't guarantee your Wi-Fi speeds, but the wired speeds I'm getting really close to a gig up and a gig down. Okay. >> So exciting. So
>> So they did what they said they were going to do. >> So far so good. Now let's see how it see how consistent it is. So >> So I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Good. Good. >> What What are you calling that now? That's highspeed internet. >> Yeah. So we we have currently have highsp speeded internet through our cable system, right? So
>> we all do in so what happened was is last over the course of like the last couple years Spectrum came in and they were doing like they call it fiber to the node and they're doing kind of like a hybrid fiber system. So you have a fiber to the node and then coaxial to the house but they're saying that that
can support symmetrical upload and download speeds. And historically we have very decent download speeds but our upload speeds are very slow. Um, and after this, you know, Brian and I were kind of inquiring like when is the project going to be done? And we finally heard it was done. And so I I reached
out and I, you know, they and lo and behold, they're like, "Yeah, you can get new equipment." And I did and we're we're getting true fast upload speeds now. So, um, >> if we were to call Spectrum, >> you're going to say, "I would ask about
the what symmetrical." >> Yeah. you actually for me I went right on my account it just said one gig up one gig down is is zero dollar charge right on the right on my app and I said you can upgrade to that and um I said
well what do I need to do that and they said well your your your cable modem that you currently have has got to be compatible with that so um mine was not although my cable modem I had purchased with my own money and managed my own kind of network but that was a few years ago and when they sent me the new
equipment it's spectral it's It's fast. >> Okay. So, >> now upload upload in a typical home environment is >> not >> sort of like you know >> Yeah. my wife and I emailing kid pictures around or something like that. >> Sure. So, if you're like um you know
somebody like um previous selectman you know select select board member excuse me Greg you know Greg Ris who did a lot of video uploading and whatnot those are going to be critical to somebody like himself um when you're doing the upload. big gaming, you know, if you're a big gamer, it it requires, you know, fast
frame rates and speeds with with space. >> It seemed like downloading be a thing for a game. >> A little bit of both. A little bit of both because you're playing online with other people. So, you're you're kind of data going back and forth. So, for for a better gaming experience, supposed to be a better experience for those who came. Um, but also, you know, people who are
taking a lot of pictures of Warcraft people here. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, but I'm happy to report that that's so far so good. >> Okay. Maybe that's the next thing for parks department. Have a World of Warcraft night. >> That's right. >> That's all I have.
>> Are you talking about the planning committee meeting? >> I heard you. >> Okay. >> I heard you about the townhouse committee. >> Patrick, I assume you're here about Judy Milton. Okay. >> Anything else? >> Anything else?
>> Nope. I just wanted to grab you for about five minutes. >> Okay. Okay. How's the planning board? Good. >> Yeah, good. Right. >> You got you got a big agenda Wednesday, right? >> We do. Yeah. >> Speaking of planning, switch over appeals. So, we had a resignation from
the zoning board of appeals. They would like they have a associate member they would like to promote. >> Yeah. >> So, roster spot open on the major league team. They're calling him up, right?
He's been waiting for this coach. Yeah, thank you. >> There's no crying on appeals. All right. Thank you. So, can we add that to the agenda for next week? >> 13. >> Maybe he'd like to come.
>> All right. Then, who is the chair of the board of appeal now? Is it Dick? No. Isn't it? Is it Jed or one of them? It's one of them. Co-chairs. It could be co-chairs. Okay. Thank you.
Uh, time administrator Lauren >> and last week submitted the congressionally directed spending request. Senator Marky for $6.5 million. >> Fire station. The check come in yet?
>> Um, I'm waiting on that. >> Okay. >> Go to the mailbox every day. >> In the mail. Okay. Uh, speaking of speaking of checks, Senator Alvar wants to come and give us a check for the $90,000 that they provided us for the the public safety improvements here.
>> Have him do it when we're overport. >> That will look like >> Yeah. >> He was asking for the 27th at 6. >> 27. >> All right. >> Yeah, that's >> regular meeting night. >> Does that seem to work?
>> Yeah. Yeah. All right. While he's here, we can hit him up for some more. >> Try change the number on the check. >> Put a little one in front of it. See what happens. >> All right. >> Um, South Road Bridge project. Um, we're
waiting on the contract amendment with the small bridge program, the state state grant, and then we'll sign the contract for the uh for the construction. Um the other bridge through the fair program. Um we're still waiting on that.
We really haven't heard anything about that. That's the road bridge. Um so it get to warrant together that all set. >> What is the stat report? >> Well, I'll pick Warren. I know she had
pretty much all of the fine um pretty much all of the reports in I believe. >> Okay. Well, we talked about the front cover. They were suggesting maybe a picture of the new town hall. Obviously, we'd like to do it maybe without cars in front. What time do you
get here? >> 5:30. >> No, seriously. >> Serious. >> Well, then you probably be the only car. Maybe you could take a picture from the front for uh you have a decent phone. >> Light it up.
>> Unfortunately. Unfortunately. Yeah. There's no way to get the sign. There's no way to get to sign the picture or portrait that it's on the other side. >> I could I could take a picture or >> it could be an inset thing. Maybe take a picture of school a little inset of the
sign. Yeah. At some point maybe talk to Mark about taking down the one of the all the departments listed at the old town hall >> right next to Did they ever take that pay phone? I don't think they did. >> No, it's there. >> Remember somebody asked if they could have that paper >> there? Yeah, we should talk to R.
>> Yeah. >> Anything else? >> Anything else comes before the board? >> Second. All >> in favor? >> That was easy. >> Oh, yeah. See the difference when certain people aren't here, how quick it goes.
>> Oh, that's recorded. Oh no.