Good evening. I'd like to welcome everyone to the December 8th, 2025 meeting of the Hammond Select Board and Board of Health. Please stand for the pledge of >> allegiance. I flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all. >> Good evening. This meeting is being held in the meeting room at the town hall 85 Warham. Uh we are broadcasting on Zoom and recording the meeting. Is there anyone else recording the meeting? Kristen. Welcome Kristen.
>> Okay. The We have no minutes, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. The first order of business, we're going to open a public hearing. >> We have a petition for a public hearing for on Summers Road. All right. Hello.
>> Speaking for the petitioner is I'm Michael Tetro. I'm representing National Grid. Can you flip that? Lauren is here.
>> Okay. One second. We're trying to put him up on the screen. >> Usually when they start talking it shows them. So >> gallery. >> Okay. I'm sorry. Sh. >> Okay. Why don't you come on up to the front cuz we can barely hear you back
there. >> All right. This is the time and place set for the public hearing and why don't you start off and tell us what you have. >> Well, Matt was the actual designer. I'm the the national grid representative.
So, he may be better versed to address this. >> All right. Well, let's give a quick overview then. Uh, as we said in our meeting last week, we did meet with Representative National Grid to talk about a power upgrade project they had
for Bayaring Colony. And I believe as they said at the meeting, this is the first step which is putting a pole in at the intersection pretty much >> correct >> of County and uh Summer's Road.
>> Can I ask what is the >> All right. One second. One one second. So, let him do his thing here first. That'll I think answer your questions. And you don't have anything you put up on the screen, do you? Showing >> um No, I don't really. But it's >> Brian, do you have anything we can share?
>> So, it's north of >> Yes. >> You have a print out, right? >> Yeah. I can pull one if you want. >> It's not her. >> It is in the folder.
>> Okay. >> I can I don't think we have it. I can give her a mic. I'm going to walk this copy around pretty much. >> Oh, get it in a sec. What? >> Lauren says it's in here. >> Is it in here?
We're going to try and put up the diagram up on the screen so everybody can see it. >> Your agendas. >> Y >> I will say this is the biggest attendance we've had for a national grid public hearing and I'm glad you all came out. Any of you here last night for the tree
lighting, you were here. Yeah. Thank you. Tad, you were here. >> How'd you make out with Mr. Claus? You going to get your present? >> You might have a problem this year. >> Okay. on a naughty list for you. Okay.
>> I was good for a lot of years. I was good for a lot of years. >> A lot of years. Just not this year. >> Technology. It's slow. I just need to be able to spin it. >> Well, while we're waiting for him to bring that up on the screen, that'll answer your questions. Give us a brief
overview of why this poll is needed. >> Yes. So, >> and speak I think Yeah, the closest mic is right there. >> Yeah. So, basically this pole is uh going to be a feed of the upgraded underground. Oh, there it is. That's P
P15-1 right across from P15. Uh there's going to be a new underground infrastructure that's going to be replacing uh the existing on Bay Road um which will is ultimately meant
to uh upgrade the system, increase reliability and prevent outages in the future. >> All right. So this is a there is a current pole 15 on the east side of the road. Correct. >> You're adding a pole on the west side. We're bringing it overhead to that pole.
>> Overhead to that pole and then underground and then underground everywhere. Uh >> so it's it's going into the current distribution network that's down underground already. >> Underground from that point on >> which it currently is
>> right. Is the purpose one ma'am ma'am one second please. >> Is the current is the goal of this to upgrade the basically the service to the subdivision? >> Yeah. So this is the supply point for the entire subdivision >> and from what I understand is the
subdivision has experienced some outages reliability over over the years and this project is meant to upgrade infrastructure to prevent that from happening in the future. New new underground cables and everything that goes with that and then this will be the
supply point. E15-1 is the new supply point for the new underground infrastructure. >> Okay. Are you going to a heavier cable or you going to be upgrading the distribution to or the same? >> It'll be I don't know all the details of
of cable type from what I understand. Typically, it's newer cable um that'll last um a couple generations probably. >> So, it should last a long time at least. Okay. >> Newer newer technology, newer jacket on
cable. >> All right. The time frame you want to get this done is when >> um that I don't know. Um it will go to national grid,
>> right? We have to have permission first and then we will it will go to scheduling and according to the operations and and the the job owner. Once we have permission then they can Then they'll try to schedule it. We have
we we have to have all of our ducks in a row and then then it we'll go to schedule. >> Okay. Does the board have any questions for the engineer before I open it up and audience? Okay. All right. If you have a question, please just identify yourself first so we can get in the minutes. Okay. And
then we'll go on. Great. >> Well, this lady this lady's been patient. Please. Ma'am, >> thank you. Now, where is No, ma'am. The current >> I'm sorry. >> Thank you. >> 104 Summers.
>> Uh my driveway is right across from pole 14. Um >> Okay. >> And there is electrical lines and I have the actual um request for putting the pole along my property line back in I
think it was 79 or 88, sorry. But um I don't if it's coming off pole 15 that's on the uh east side of Summers Road. >> Where is the conduit currently?
>> Um the current the conduit currently is in a similar spot. It's it's just this new feed is going to come to P15-1 to minimize the >> Well, she brings up a good point. How are you crossing the road now to get to
the subdivision? >> Is there a current is there a current pole on where 151 is? >> No. >> So, it's underground. >> It's underground to to P50. >> Okay, that's great question. Thank you. So, it's No, I mean it's a great
question. I mean, how are you crossing the road right now? And it's underground feed to the distribution network at this point. >> Correct. >> Okay. So, you're replacing that underground feed, the distribution main feed with a more reliable correct >> wire and distribution. Okay. Doesn't
sound like it affects your part because it's from poll 15, not 14. So, >> okay. >> Nancy. Um, first I'd like to say um Oh, Nancy
Netherwood Colony Drive. I'm sorry. Uh, first I'd like to say uh do we have a handicapped entrance to coming in uh to this room? I mean, it took us forever for my husband to get down get down uh the distance. We didn't realize we we
could have come right in this door. Is there any way that you know I mean for future meetings in the seleman meetings that people can first come in that door if you're handicapped? >> It's a good point. At this point this is not the permanent room for we are having
the floor replaced. If you remember where's Andy? Uh the room the selectman's meeting room is down straight across from the entrance the main entrance. But we're having that floor redone because the tiles were loose and they have asbestous.
Brand, you probably working on the board back when the first time it happened, I'm sure. Um, so when that's done, and we're hoping shortly, our meetings will be over there. To your point, we'll look at that for future meetings as well. Again, this is
the first time and we're happy to see everybody here, but we'll look at making a way that that can be the entrance to this area as well. Um, second of all, we were a few minutes late getting in because of that. Um, I don't know who this gentleman is that's
doing the speaking. >> I'm just wondering what your relationship is to all of this. >> Yeah. So, I'm I'm with Lios. I my >> What is Lios? >> Lios is an engineering consultant that works for >> Okay. >> We did the design. Um, actually my
colleague did the design. I'm here. Um and uh here to answer your questions. >> I'm Fran Heatherwood. Does this affect Bay Are anyway road? >> Yes.
>> Yeah. Well, the this is the service. This service is the upgrade for the infrastructure. >> So, are you going to go all the way down right through to colony? >> Okay. So, one quickly there will be a second hearing. This is just the pole
going across. There's a second hearing for the upgrade work needed throughout the subdivision. >> Okay. Um >> this is just crossing the street right now to get >> just to get the the higher capacity cable replacing what was underground
like you said 30 years 30 40 years ago basically. And then there'll be a further hearing. Correct Brian? because they talked about the the uh junction boxes need to be replaced in the road. >> Yeah. The second >> a further hearing will be held to talk
about the work inside the subdivision itself >> because colony big bearing colony we've had by the counting right this past summer we've had seven outages because of the underground cables are failing
>> and uh just can't have that happen. I mean, happy with the worst of times, you know, >> of course, >> and that's the problem. And then everybody said, "Well, you don't run a generator." Well, that's nice except all generators don't run that long. >> And it's a tough job for me to get out
there and get that generator out there. >> I'm and I'm probably healthier than some of the other ones that are on the street, you know, but uh it's not convenient. >> So, a little background. So Brian and I met with I think who was also there Mark
our highway superintendent. This was two weeks ago Brian. >> Yes. >> With a team from National Grid and they were engineering. I think a total of five people came out to talk about the project as a whole. This is step one. Step two would be replacing the
distribution inside the subdivision. They wouldn't give a firm commitment because there's something it's tied into when the permit is given, but they were estimating I'm going to say, Brandon, three months at the most from the time they were able to start.
>> Yeah. I don't I don't recall an exact, >> but it wasn't like wasn't a year-long project. And they also said they felt they could work through the winter season. So, the thing that they need to get completed, Lauren, correct me if I'm wrong, they need to get the abutters
list correct to get the notice out for the second hearing. >> And you can imagine the abuters list for surveying I've been I surveyor surveying both streets. >> Everything has been surveyed, but they couldn't give me the answer when >> Well, the abutters list I'm going to say
was goes to over 70 >> 70 to 100 for the >> 70 to 100 people for the butters list for this project. That meeting will probably be in the cafeterium if everybody shows up. Uh we'll definitely have better overheads showing what the project is.
>> But Fran, be assured this is going forward. The people that came to that meeting were 100% behind this. >> Yes, Nancy. I'm sorry. >> Um who is uh National Grid's representative for us? Is u is that
person here today? No, it's uh Naani. No, ma'am. >> There's a representative online. Is that what you're talking about? >> Is that the person online? >> My name is Michael. >> Is that Michael? >> I'm the national grid representing for
grid for this hearing, but I did not design this project. >> Okay. >> We have a we have a rep for the town of Hampton. Uh her name is Naani Bellow Paneagoa. She came to the meeting as well. She's the one who stays in contact
for all natural issues for the town, street lights, distribution, etc. >> Okay. Um I I would like to since you are the representative here, I would like a I'd like to make uh some requests to you
because I know whatever source does uh for their t for their small towns. First of all, our representative, where did he go? Oh, >> screen here. >> I know that Washington um our repres uh
our representative should be contacting the selectman here anytime there is a small outage that's out because they had no knowledge of any of this until I actually went in and told them. Um, now I know national I know Aerosource does
that all the time. What guarantees do we have as a street or streets in terms of in the winter here and we have another power outage again. Eversource provides generators
for a small communities such as ours. I would we are certainly paying enough money to have you come out and do those kinds of things for us. >> Well, that's not something that National Grid normally does. if there would be a
an extended outage. Um the the town would there's a there's a representative who deals with with towns and and large customers, but that's not anything that I could uh commend. >> We're not talking about a large outage,
sir. We're talking about this just affected our streets. Mhm. >> And we pay enough money to you when you get enough bonuses to be able to do this. >> Um well, that's subjective, but um
I'm not really familiar with this with this underground network there. Normally the uh they're customerowned. So So you're saying that this is not a customer-owned underground No, I am not talking about that. They
bring in portable generators. This is Eversource. >> Well, that's for a fact. >> Okay. Well, Nancy, I think one thing and excuse me, I'm cut you off >> and then to give you a background, I happened to be in chatting with Lauren
one day and Nancy came down the hallway and she alerted us to what's been going on. That was very much appreciated. And I think you partly got the ball rolling at that point. We reached out to our rep Nyani. She really contacted them and
honestly in less than a year the whole thing is going to be taken care of. For a large utility that might actually be pretty good speed, you know, for a small town like us. Let's let's see what we can do about getting whether it's an onbudsman or
something like that that works with the town to provide a better notification system. Okay. To your concern there? >> Yes, absolutely. Is there anybody else? Yes, ma'am. >> Um, now currently there are conduits
that already go down the whole street to >> Yes, correct. >> Are they going to be dug up and put new conduits in or are they just using existing and then pulling everything through? >> It's pretty amazing. They're actually, if you remember the water project on
Main Street, they use mole technology and you won't see the work except for this machine that does all this underground drilling, >> right? I I for >> Exactly. So, it's it'll be amazing, you know, >> the utilities. >> Yeah. >> So, it'll be amazing. They'll be
paralleling the current one coming up >> through some of the existing handholds and dropping in some new ones as well. Yeah, >> there might be a >> that's what most of these people are worried about as well as far as this project. >> All the work all the work will be done
in the town right away. >> They also said they will, I believe, Brent, correct me if I'm wrong, they'll work with any homeowner to make sure that anything they have that may go out to the street, sprinkler, whatever, will not be affected. Obviously, Dig Safe um
will be contacted as well. I believe they talked about a couple of transformer pads need to be put in and they would reach out to those homeowners as well, Brian. >> Right. And that'll be the covered in the next hearing. >> Right. That's where we'll have information is the next hearing. >> Right. We'll have all that. Right now,
this is phase one, which is getting the upgrade to the power distribution to the subdivision. New pole needs to be put in obviously reviewed by the police and the highway department to make sure fire it's not a hazard to any operation of
town vehicles far enough off the road so to speak >> in the town right away. Possibly also the town providing a sidewalk along that area to offset the pole
>> on the corner of Bayberry and Summers >> people often walk off of Bayberry on Summers to town >> and they have to walk along the the grass there,
>> you know, because there's no Uh um what do you call it? >> There's no rules. Ma'am, you are 100% right. If you compare us to some other towns, we're sadly lacking with our sidewalk distribution network. I uh took
my granddaughter from Weir Road down to Sully's, sorry, Mountain View, right? >> And that was a bit of a chore. Yeah. >> You know, but again, we're looking sidewalks are enormously expensive. The price of concrete has tripled in the
past five years. Um it's something we're always looking Bob Marle was instrumental in getting a grant for a town for completing the Main Street sidewalk which the governor did not sign. So we're constantly Brian is constantly looking for funding sources. >> Yeah.
>> For the tip program, whether it's through the casino distribution network for money to expand the sidewalk distribution. How about a curve? >> That's up to the highway superintendent. Yeah.
>> Okay. Is there ma'am? I'm sorry. >> Jennifer Kovlazer 8 February, which is the corner. >> Okay. >> Um, sidewalks are great. I work. I don't want to shovel it, but um my question is or my comment. I have
a pool in my backyard. Um, unlike everyone else, I've never lost power. So, I'm thinking my pole must be a different connection. Um, so would I then go to a different pole and
have different power source? How would that work? Um, I don't I don't know where my power comes from because I've never lost power. H >> your power comes off of 14, runs along my driveway, and that's the pole that's going to my garage and then
it goes underground to your house. >> So, is there another pole across from 14, you think, or that possibly services 8 Bay? >> I know. >> There is. >> There is. Okay. >> So, would that get taken away? And I >> No. No. >> This is just this is just upgrading the
service under the ground, right? That's all that's all the scope of this project is. If you're currently serviced by that, I imagine you're staying there. >> Is there no bunch of Monopoly? Anybody else? >> Well, I'm just saying Fran, you know, that's
you know, you ran the school committee. You know what I'm doing. That's it. That's it. >> Okay. one question. My only question was not quite 40 40 or 41 years ago when we moved here the end of on summers road
right at where baby comes out >> used to be a street light and somewhere along the line there used to be street lights at every >> yeah every intersection sure >> like that and some I forget what happened I don't know what happened to
the thing but they had to change a pole they had to do something >> and I've asked over asked 30 well to 40 40 years old where the hell is it and they never put it back. It would be a great thing because a lot of people walk >> at night and there's no light there.
>> I'm going to should be a street light. >> I'm going to look into that because we you're you bring up a great point. We've made a point and Lauren knows this to work with the rep because the police want every intersection lit. We've done a lot of work down the sessions area right now because that can be pretty bad
going through there. I wasn't aware that there wasn't illumination there. I'm surprised >> that blue >> that transformer blue and then they changed the poles. >> Okay. Well, that's something we'll look into and see if we can light that intersection. >> Sure. Okay. I mean, if they were there
already, why not, right? >> Yeah. >> Right. You got a truck there already. Do the work. >> 35 years of not having maybe paid for it. I don't know. >> Well, that was the that was the board before me, so I can't speak. Anybody
else? Seem clear to everybody. Again, I invite you back. This probably won't be for Oh, you'll know because you're all the Butters. You will get a notice for the next hearing. At this point, I imagine that's going to be in January.
If everybody shows up, it'll be in a much bigger location, you know, different room here with good access. So, um, any other questions either from the board or the audience?
Fire department have a concern? >> No, I know it's all on the ground wire for now complex subdivisions on the ground. >> Well, they're planning install, you'll see at the next hearing, they are planning putting two transformers in on pads located two different places.
Um, >> Nancy, >> I would like to meet with the representative for National Grid with my son. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Well, we'll reach out to her again. I think she's located in Boston,
but we'll see when she's in the area. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Super. Pity. Maybe Pity, I think it was. >> I'm sorry. >> Maybe PB, I think it was. which is still which is still, you know, a ways away. >> Might as well be Boston at that point.
>> Boston. >> We'll send her a map. It'll be fine. Gas money. Anybody else? >> Okay. >> Mr. Chairman, I move approval of the pole petition on Massachusetts Electric Company for a single owner pole on
Summers Road beginning at approximately 15 ft west of the center line of the intersection of Summers Road and Bayberry Road and continuing approximately 45 ft in north direction. Second >> and to install a new hold it and to
install a new pole riser on Paul P51 across the street from existing P15 Summers Road. >> That's it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I thank you for coming. >> Thank you.
>> You want to stay for the rest of the excitement? >> You don't want to stay for the rest of the excitement? >> That's all right. Well, we're appointing a new lieutenant for the fire department. >> Oh, that's good. That's good. >> Congratulations.
>> Well, we're hoping to >> You're the new lieutenant. >> I'm Andrew's father. >> Andrew. Congratulations. Let's take >> All right. >> 20 minutes late.
>> 20 minutes late already. >> The young lady at the end. >> Next on the agenda is the fire department. >> Wow. That's why I'm here. >> Chief, first off, please accept the the thanks of the board for a great job last night for the tree lighting. I think the
entire fire department, the volunteer fire department did a fantastic job getting Mr. and Mrs. Claus safely here. The parade through town, what I can see on social media was wellreceived and people are so glad to see that happening. >> Thank you. It was a lot hard work
getting all those lights on a truck one afternoon emergency calls as well. So, >> right. And then getting them back off again, too. Did I hear that you set up a system to hopefully store them to make it easier? >> Actually, Andrew Netherwood and Jason McCarthy came up with a um PVC pipe
frame system they built to go on the sides of trucks. We're able to string the lights onto the racks and we just take the racks off, the lights on them outside >> where you're storing the old town hall. >> It's close. Um, no, we have them up
against the back wall of where that enormous American flag we have. Back wall is >> Okay. All right. So, Chief, tell us why you're here. >> I'm here this evening because we have a vacancy for a lieutenant firefighter in
our career department Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. And we held interviews, four candidates, three internal, one external. and Brendon Kennedy here um rose to the top as number one. So I'm looking here tonight
to have you have any questions for him and also pointed out. >> All right. So this is a position you currently had and it was vacant. >> Correct. Correct. >> Who left? >> Um Nick Bertran left and went to the town of Charles.
>> Okay. And you're our shift guy already? Yes, he's he's works for the town of Hampton, right? So be like a promotion. >> Okay. >> Is this a It's already in your budget basically. Nick was already there. >> Yep.
>> Right. >> So you're setting >> of the three people, this is the person in charge. >> Correct. So this moving him up, promoting him will obviously create a vacancy in, you know, for, you know, his old spot. Mhm.
>> Um and then I'll do a internal posting to fill that. >> Okay. >> Any questions from the board? >> Not like we don't know this guy. He's been we appointed him before
questions. >> That's good. >> Okay. I'll accept the motion to uh President Kennedy to Yes. and the police department. >> Fire department. >> I'm sorry. Fire department. Sorry.
Sorry. >> Sorry. Sorry. I apologize. Fire department. I apologize. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> You want to sew the stripes on now or is that later?
>> Well, we can offer you a Brandon. That's all we can do. >> Congratulations. Thank you. >> Nice one, Eric. You guys listen up the tongue. >> A couple of those.
>> Yeah. All right. So the next on our agenda is a recap of the meeting we had with the Wolverham select board and some school officials last week. Uh start off I want to first thank the Wolver Select Board for coming over. Dr.
Tierasi U Michelle was online Dr. Provos Dr. Slaughter were here as well. I miss anybody. Was that right? >> How was that? And I thought we had a pretty vibrant discussion focusing on
the potential need to perhaps shift shift the course towards a a new structure or total rehabilitation of the current structure and a lot of back and forth a lot of great information from school officials
um was brought forward. So, the two things on the agenda are really concurrent. The school committee is going to withdraw the application for so make sure I don't
say it wrong, Don. Uh, withdraw the application for a repair >> accelerator accelerated repair >> repair program and go for the core program instead. Correct. >> Right. and they don't need it, but they are looking for the endorsement of both the
Wolverham and Hampton select boards to go with their application showing that we feel that both towns should have the opportunity to weigh in on this and uh we would bring the support forward and I'll let uh my other board members
share their recap. Read the whole thing or just give a quick summary. >> Come on. I I now I have I have some comments I'd like to make as and uh first of all I want to reiterate again that my comments have nothing to do with
the current administration because they weren't here during the time of the issues that stuck and they've been working very hard to resolve them the the years of neglecting the routine necessary maintenance and long
identified repairs of the overcrowded town of Wilber owned Wilberham Middle School has finally reached a point where doing nothing is no longer an option. The select board is being asked by the regional school committee to support the committee's decision to withdraw from
the mass building assistance uh repair program accelerated program and replace to replace the windows and doors and is said to seek inclusion in the Massachusetts school building assistance core program for the purpose of assisting in a much larger and needed
assessment of the options available. Two points being made here. Number one, the school committee does not need the approval of the select board to withdraw or to file a statement of interest. That's in the sole discretion of the school committee. And that this issue is not new. Since
2015, it's been recommended that the regional school committee seek the assistance of the mass building assistance uh program. In February 2015, the middle school task force voted to recommend that the
Hampton Wilberham uh regional school committee seek the assistance of the mass building assistance program. In an October 15th, the middle school task board delivered recommendations to the school committee at October 13th meeting that that the
school committee should first of all have a single unified school and secondly of all the short-term that there a short-term plan of combining Thornton Burges population with West Western Middle with middle Wilberham Middle School is a short-term solution
that a long-term approach is needed and the IC should be partnering with the Mass Building Mass Building Association to create a a new one that supports the educational, social, and emotional needs of the children of Hamlet Wilham. Yet
here we are 10 years later agonizing over the same issues. In the meanwhile, over those 10 years, little to nothing has been done to implement the recommended repairs or relieve the overcrowding. The answer is clear that we need to have
a long-term look at the future here. Which raises the more immediate and serious question, what must be done now and over the next two to three years while the core progress plays out and may take as long as six or seven years to what what are we going to do to
protect the health and safety of the students and faculty and improve the educational environment for the students currently in the building and for those who will soon be in the building until a long-term solution is formulated. The issues are clearly outlined in a
recent communication from the regional school committee. In their letter, they wrote, "A feasibility study conducted in 2015 noted that several building systems, including water and sanitary systems, the Havac system, the electrical
service, walls and insulation, windows and doors, the fire protection system, and the kitchen require extensive upgrades. Additionally, many more building modification would be required to provide accessible spaces for the students, staff, and visitors. We are
also aware that there are serious air quality problems in the building. But at this point, a study has yet to been conducted to help us understand what needs to be done to correct the problem. And most recently and urgently, we have learned there are problems with asbestous containing floor tiles in a
few rooms cracking and pulling from the floor. Unfortunately, during the floor tile assessment, some crumbling on the walls was noted. And this does not include the overcrowding of spaces where children are in in areas not conducive to
learning. So, let me be clear in my own mind. The majority of not all these defects outlined in the letter were identified 10 years ago. Over those years, n little or nothing was done to address the problem.
I want to be equally clear that the regional agreement and the lease agreement between the town of Wilberham which owns the building and the regional committee states it is responsibility of the tenant in this case the region to maintain and repair all the property in
good safe usable workable operating condition and that costs of more than 35,000 shall be considered capital costs. Further the re further the regional agreement states all expense of the nature of capital outlay for the least elementary and middle schools
shall be the responsibility of the town in which the elementary or middle school is located. It took it could take years before a final resolution is achieved. I'm willing to support the re request contingent upon the region and the owner
of the building, the town of Wilberham, in compliance with the regional agreement and lease agreement take immediate and constructive action to prioritize and develop an action plan to mitigate the current deficiencies while the core
program process progresses. In my view, it is unfair to the students, the faculty and staff. It is irresponsible to lay any further steps to mitigate the many issues presented. I believe that should be made clear if the board votes to offer their support in a letter to
the vote. >> Thank you, Don. I think uh Don a pretty good job of summarizing our our conversation in the beginning part of a statement with the uh with the select board and the school representatives. Last week I was on the middle school
task force and I think in our eyes it was pretty apparent that that would have been the right time to do the two approach which was while a middle school was being constructed do a sharing of the population between
Thornton Burgess and Wra Middle which would have mitigated any overcrowding towards what we felt would have been the proper outcome would have been a a miniog campus basically. 6 through 12, which would have been an incredible
thing. Now, if that's the goal we're doing this year, great. Although probably would have been done for 40% of the cost we would see now. That's water over the dam. We need to move forward. We have as Don said a tremendous concern if you watch our
meeting last week of what will the students over that next Don you said it could be five six years >> uh will experience in the current situation that needs to be addressed
the overall concept is good I think we see that but there's nuts and bolts that need to be addressed as part of it Eric you're the parent of children in the middle school right now. >> Yes. >> Your thoughts? >> Yeah. And I uh Don summed it up very
very nicely, but at the end of the day, we are faced with the the reality that nothing has been done and here we are. So, we've reached an impass and the um accelerated program is just kind of putting band-aids on a bigger problem.
So, we need to move forward and think bigger. should have been I agree it should have been done years ago but here we are. So based on that I think we need to move forward with that and yes I do agree that um there needs to be something done to the existing school while the core you know the core program
is being evaluated that these things take time. So, I definitely think there could be some stop gaps and some ways that may at least do some, you know, call it I'm not calling it the bare minimum, but just just enough to kind of make the air quality better, things like that. Things, little steps, you know, we
don't have to put, you know, million-doll HVAC systems in to do that. But maybe there's an opportunity to do ventilation or some other, you know, stop gaps in the meantime to just to kind of the can down the road until they can either say, "Hey, we're going to fix up this whole school and do a whole gut
or we're going to replace the school." I think we all kind of think based on the condition that the school's in, that's probably going to most likely be recommended that it be replaced, >> but we will kind of see when that core uh evaluation comes through. So, but that's kind of >> and again a 5-year fix will should not
be as expensive as what they were detailing so far. >> Correct. Correct. >> But again, we want we're paramount importance is protect the children there now. Yes. >> And the ones that are currently at Green Meadows, Soul Road, >> Stony Hill, all the children going in there as well. >> I mean,
>> and staff, >> you're not writing off five years of kids, right? >> You know, their education is important also. So, what can make sure as Don said, we have to have a clear plan in place. What's the five-year plan until that happens? Okay. All right. So, that
being said, one sec. Oh, we do have a couple school people here. Michelle, did you want to say anything? Or Dr. Slaughter? No. I want to thank you for the tour last week, by the way. >> Well done. The principal of Warren Middle, Mr. Roger.
All right. Yes. Former school committee member Fran Netherwood. Yes. >> Is he on with you? >> Yeah. I don't want to hear him. I heard him for years. >> I can tell you what he's going to say.
First thing I'm going to say is as far as all nothing being done in the past, that's the school everywhere. They play that game. We give the money, they then they once the school gets the money, they do. This building here, I was involved in heavily, you know. And uh my
my first question is what's this going to cost handed for this middle school that you're talking about repairing? >> Well, repairing or replacing, we don't have any kind of figures. We threw out some ballpark things right now based on construction you see in the area. But
again, a middle school is not the cost of a high school. So you can't say, "Oh my gosh, same as L." Is La Me a middle school that they're putting in? >> Two. Well, that's La Meadows. Yeah. combine but East Meadow is building a high school not I mean obviously middle
school doesn't have a pool it wouldn't need the offices if it was next minute job because they have the offices things like that but typically typically we would take our percentage of what's left over after the state kicks in that gives you a rough idea and
I think Dr. Slaughter said right now the le the most recent data we had was in the 58% range >> you know something like that. So the two towns would be on the hook for 42% of the cost and we would be
>> 20% of that >> 20% of that roughly 20% of that. >> I was on a school committee before it regionalized. >> Mhm. I was the only one that said, "Don't read gel." And then I had Mary Ellen 20 years later tell me you were right for it. I said, "Well, the three
of you didn't want to listen to me." I was the only guy left. But the whole problem was every time I call like I get maintenance money for the spilling. We got maintenance money, $485,000 to do the roof. Okay. They regionalized. The
superintendent then took $300 something,000. We went in the school bus. It patched the roof. >> Those are games that are played. Problem is the state allows that and we as a little town have no power over that.
>> My my objection to all this is a lot of these expenditures are are plain neglect. I ran two major systems are in Edna's home office properties. All I've done on my life is a master electrician HBAC. You name it,
I've been in it. And I when I walked into the old high school and I'm listening to the our then superintendent tell us this is this is look at these doors. Okay. I said those are 1,500
bucks. How many doors we need? 10. That's $15,000. >> You know we got other problems too. I said I know but this we're talking if we had a maintenance budget. This school did not have a maintenance budget at all
when I got on the board and as soon as I put it in one thing was the library. I don't know if you guys remember it used to be hotter than hell in there. >> I wanted to put place a Spence fell. I got money for it. 800 something dollars. I think it was actually more
than that. Our then female superintendent, I can't think of her name. >> Was that Gwen Gwen? >> Gwenor. Yeah. when we have a sister superintendent regionalized this whole thing plan for her made out well for her
she bought a new copier for the office >> so I said what are we going to do about these people the kids in here the dying in here time well we don't have the money now I said well why against a big committee you would do that I have I
have the power well you know it's like anything if you got the power and we don't have the power what in the hell are we involved for All you looking for is to just sort of bless it and hand the money over. I don't like that. >> Well, I think you bring up a good point, but we have to trust. We do have again
that was the past. We do have to trust our new our elected officials. We've been fortunate. I think over the past gosh, seven, eight years, Don, the majority of time the chair has been from Hampton. Going back to Scott Chapman and
Michelle as well. So, I will also say during our move here, we did find that Thorn Birch was pretty wellmaintained. We certainly got our money back from the roof that's in terrific shape and upgraded. So, we do have some money to
come in doing HVAC for the library. >> Good. >> But, uh, they certainly appreciate that. So, it is the area of interest and I thank you for bringing that up. Um, so with what you've said done, is the
board willing to vote support for the building authority core program application with understanding that we will continue to meet with the school committee to make sure our concerns are heard about what as it goes on. This is only with
the time frame. We know it's I think you said Doug this is an application that goes in when? sometime next year. >> It'll probably be April that it'll be due. >> Yeah. >> So, I mean, they'll open up for the application in January. We'll have till April to, you know, for compile our our
details for that. >> Okay. Then I think I would say then we would right now we're offering our support, but before that final goes out, we want to see a comprehensive plan that if you're accepted in the program, what
are you going to do for the next five to six years? If they say great, you're in the core program. What are we going to do with War Middle and the students coming in or we withdraw our support? How's that sound? >> Good.
>> Okay. So, right now, we'll go ahead and endorse that with an understanding that meetings will continue and you'll develop that plan. I'm sure Wilberham will have the same concerns. They should. They certainly seem when they met with us, they're just as concerned about their students. So, I'll take that
motion. >> Number two, >> make a motion to support the decision to go to the core program for the regional school district uh with the caveat that uh we want to see a five toear six five to six year plan for the current school middle school.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> Thank you. >> All right. Do you need a letter? >> I think yeah, you probably >> I'm good at letters. >> Oh god, no. Brian, you want to write something? Eric, you want to go?
>> Yeah, I can send it to him. >> Yeah, we haven't got that much paper done. I'm really pleased the budget's so bad. >> All right, so next on the agenda, I added a uh traffic concerns and this is something obviously we the board has
talked about concerns with the intersections about that. Thank you for coming. >> Thank you. Good night. um both the intersection at Maine and Summers, uh the four road intersection at Lacina and a new traffic concern that I think
we need to be concerned with is Raymond Drive. Uh we've heard from people in the past that oh my gosh the speed can be bad and they see the potential for it getting worse now the town hall is located here that people coming from the
western part of town if you will use Raymond Drive as a cut through to get to the town town hall you're a resident of Raymond Drive you're obviously concerned >> we we've talked in the past people said hey can you put a speed bump in and you
can't put a speed bump them. However, our highway superintendent and Brian have also said we can do raised crosswalks >> or speed or speed tables >> or what? >> Speed tables. >> Speed tables. Same thing. Anybody who's
been over to Long Meadow >> crosswalk >> near the big Y that road that goes left there. That's not Williams. It's the other one. They have that there and we all Oh my god. Boom. Boom. But it's not a round speed bump. a more plateau and
then down again. That would be allowed. And I just think I'd like to look into that because I think the potential for increased speed, people zipping to the town hall. I worry about residents on that road.
So, any thoughts by the board? >> Zipping to the town hall to pay their taxes because they want to make sure >> I think it's more to complain to the select board. I think, you know, nobody goes fast to pay their taxes. Yeah, ma'am. You haven't had a chance yet. I'm sorry. >> Uh, Raymond Drive is a pretty long road,
so I think more than one of them >> I I agree >> would be appropriate. >> You are. Sorry. >> Betty Cronin from Colin Drive. >> Okay, great. Thank you, Betty. No, we were looking we were thinking two at least. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Is there any reason that you can't Why can't you have speed? I'm just curious. >> State doesn't allow it. >> The state doesn't allow it. The one good thing, the one good thing is that we do have a little more play on that road because it's posted for 30 and Brian looked into it and 30 mph road does give
you a little more >> leeway what you can do and I believe that what the highway superintendent did. >> Do what you have to do to do it. Makes sense. >> I think so too. And I >> they do I mean I've never gone up that road hardly ever. >> Well, I think >> they zip out. Hey, Zip. And I think,
like I say, I think you're going to see we were talking to the police chief and maybe putting out some monitoring in the next couple of weeks to see if traffic has increased now that we've moved here. >> Heck, if I come from work, East Lo, I will cut down Raymond Drive. It's easier
for me than going down Allen down to the corner and then turning back. >> That explains it. >> And connect my >> No, no, he did the ring camera. It wasn't me. >> They have a lot of those in Northampton. Do they really? Okay. Yeah. >> Well, yeah. Now, the funny thing is most
times they connect to a sidewalk system. >> Yeah. Anyhow, so that's it. Um, back to the other intersections. Uh, Bob Marle had been working on a tip project for the intersection of Lacina.
Uh, I don't we had submitted an application, but then I think the money went away, didn't it? Right. Yeah, it was a when Tai and B looked at it, I'm going to say it was a pretty big. I thought six million sticks in my mind >> to do something. >> Yeah,
>> I will say this just my personal opinion, having lived in town 110 years, I think the intersection at the gas station is tougher. I really do. If you come up Main Street and you want to turn left, you could be there for a while.
people coming out of the gas station and going that to me is a it's a tougher intersection. I see more accidents there than I do at the other one. People talk about there's a lot of close calls at the other one, but the records don't show a ton of accidents. That patience
doesn't solve. It was much worse back in the day when the school was open and you had the 17 school buses lined up at Wolverham Road >> ready to go. So, um, I would ask the board that again maybe we should be investigating with the state and see if we can get a
traffic study for improvement. I really I will say I'm not sure what kind of improvement you'd get on Main Street and Summers that isn't a light >> because I know that. But I don't see any other solution there, Fran, that doesn't
involve that. And the worst offenders, I don't care if you're listening, it's those Connecticut drivers. >> They zip. >> They cut through the village. >> Well, they cut through the village, but they are just zipping either to get gas >> or they're coming on Allen to get the Connecticut and they're just
>> going around the car turning and Oh, >> I worked quite a few years in Connecticut and I'll tell you one thing, you got a stop sign going up every street. >> Sure. Yep. >> Hell of it. >> Yep. >> I know the people in Connecticut, forget it. They just go flying through it. I used to have to stop. They
>> most of the cut throughs from 220 to 190 pretty much stop at every road on the way. Exactly. >> I suppose uh Oh, now you got Now you got trouble. >> Oh, big guy here now. >> Jeez. >> All right. Sorry, Andrew. The lieutenant job is filled. Sorry.
>> Look into that. We don't need a motion for that, right? I don't think so, but I think Did the board agree to direct uh Brian to look into the tip program again? >> Yes. >> Okay, great. >> Um and how about the direct the highway superintendent to get back to us with
costs on the speed tables? >> Okay. >> Okay, we do have the extra. >> Yes, N. >> Um this is nothing whatsoever to do. Well, it does with safety in in one respect, but how come last Saturday we had so many infield cruisers in hand?
Right. I don't know. I don't know. >> I mean, I was over at Village and an infield cruiser comes up Main Street, lights flashing, turns and heads back to Connecticut. Then there were other cruisers up there, black and whites. >> Really?
>> I could That's why we have an empty cruiser got his lights. Well, unless they were chasing somebody in >> or they saw their staging like if he turns left, they want a car up here or something like that.
>> But Enfield does not abuck Hampton, >> right? But they may have been chasing somebody through Summers. Boom. And they're like trying to cap around where he could go or something like that. We don't know. >> Oh, okay. >> But thank you. >> Just ask. >> Put it on Facebook. Maybe somebody knows.
>> Or they'll have a theory that has nothing to do with reality. um building your I feel bad you two have been here and haven't asked a question yet. >> We're just I have a lot of thoughts on every subject. By the way, >> we're actually here for a property on
South Road that we're looking at purchasing that we were told was going to be brought up for in the meeting, >> but it's for for conservation. They said to attend the meeting tonight here. So we did not be brought up as new business
>> or what I know there was conservation. >> No, they got we were there was talk that there was going to board was going to have to vote and RFR for it but when we looked into basically she's just doing a transfer to you or the whole property I believe. Right.
>> Correct. And then in the future, if you need to subdivide some off or whatever, you would come back to us and have that release from the right of first refusal. >> Yeah. >> But right now, you're doing a >> make sure that before we make such a significant investment that we can
actually build or someone's not going to say we need a $200,000 driveway talking to our house and have a driveway cost more than anything else. >> Yeah. >> Um so we postponing the the closing Um but I guess we might need to have
something from conservation director stating that we can >> Yeah, probably best to stop and see Bonnie. >> Yeah, we've talked and it's not from lack of effort on all sides. >> Sure. >> But between all the lawyers and the realators and everyone else and what the
town has adopted when it was put into conservation and then the state officials, it all is clear as mud to everybody. No one knows what they adopted back then. They don't know how to implement it now. Mr. Dope, right? >> Yes, I thought so. Do you have any water questions? I know. I know. Water. You're
>> right across the street from me for crying out loud. Yeah. >> So, it's just we wanted to be able to um come and see. And frankly, if we're not able to have our assurances, we'll just have to postpone closing to be able to do it just because uh he's got insurance
buildable. >> Well, I think Bonnie is the right person to talk to. And now they have a new conservation agent which Joino. So I think working with those two we can get this and of course Luke Brian in as well. >> Yeah. I would see Wendle the building. Have you met the building commissioner yet?
>> Not yet. >> I would come talk to him. >> We weren't even allowed to get any information direct until just this past week. >> I would talk. >> Well, they're both in the same same area right here. Check with them and they're willing to answer any questions. >> Yep. >> Great.
>> Perfect. So you get some good Wilberham people into Hampton because we want to be able to flee that side and come to >> you get this the uh middle school taken care of because my daughter's going to be in there in two weeks. >> Okay. See
>> we got a new committee member gone. >> Great. >> I have so many teachers in the family. They still want me to pay for their bill. Yeah. Yeah. Being a kindergarten teacher, Marcia Dilan School forever. >> I know. Yep.
>> And anyone that doesn't want to uh you know sign off on it, we could just you know service their water anymore. >> All I want to know is all I want to know is have you upgraded the catalog system? I went over to find my well and over
here was a bunch of 3x5 note cards. Oh, here's yours right here. And that must have been 30 years ago. Every well, >> you know what? It's still the fastest method. After the 10,000 plus wells, we've drilled them 75 years, we have about 85% of them
>> logged in database and cloud and everything else. >> Yeah. >> Now the state's after our information about the geology and bedrock is, you know, far surpasses anything the state has. They're actually using all >> Oh, yours was great. No, it's the ramp was 85 ft from the stone wall through
south, you know, like that was it right there. There's the line. Thank you. >> Okay, these will cost 20 cents a gallon back then. That's >> right. Look at Well, again, check with Wend Lani. They'll definitely help you out. >> Great. >> Excellent. Appreciate it.
>> Okay, next is uh building use requests. So, we have a new policy. Uh not a surprise that we've had a couple people ask about the usage of it. I know we're aware that probably a Scanic Valley artisans will be coming in at some point. I think they they
tickled your feathers a bit to ask about it going forward. Um obviously Eva gave us a list of the dates that are needed for town things. We have are these two different requests, Lauren? >> Yes. Is one's the show and one's
rehearsal? I >> guess I'm not entirely clear. March 20th to 29th. >> Yep, that'd be the show, I guess. >> 6 to 10. >> All right. So, they're looking for dates to just use a the captorium for the rehearsals for the upcoming show.
Mondays and Tuesdays. Obviously, Monday is not an issue. We're here anyhow. The voting's open. Tuesday. What would be the assistant? Brian, you would give them a fob. You would program the opening.
>> What do you think is more secure? >> I think we'll have to talk about it. So, one of the things that's arisen, and I don't want to talk too much detail about it, but because the building is so large um in having doors unsecured in areas not currently
monitored except for the cameras that we have, >> it might be better to issue a fob and have them >> let let each other in. Um >> make one person responsible, basically sign that a guest fob out basically. >> Yeah. Uh, I think we'll need to think
about it a little bit more, but >> yeah, having the door and secure for, you know, three hours with essentially um, >> right, >> certain areas of the building monitor only by camera maybe not be the best approach. So, >> right, the other possibility maybe
checking with Herb if Tuesday night, I know he has different nights for custodial. If that was one of his custodial nights, we'd have a person in the building out that night as well. Yeah, there could be some overlap there too, >> right? But I would make the point to
them, having seen a couple times, they're not the only ones, but no more blocking of doors. If we see that happen once, that's going to be a >> pretty much a kibos right there. You have 10 people in the rehearsal, they can certainly monitor that. Yeah.
The actual show dates, there's a charge and that's the way it is. And estimated number of attendees 75 I hope so. I don't think I've ever heard of this play.
Um food be served. Um Don just to share typically the food that's served is they go to Costco and they get those little Milano cookie things. There's no prepared food. >> So it's not like real food.
>> Not up to your standard. No, >> certainly nothing like the fake sale last night. >> No, I did good with that except they had not going to say >> I like the night out. >> The night out on Oh, yeah. That was the name. >> Yeah, they brought a truck. That would be something. Yeah, right. >> Food truck.
>> Food truck would be nice. Yeah, >> but again, same thing. They're going to have to uh uh pick out what's the right fee. The right fee would be the um the 150. I guess.
>> Yeah, we'll have to see. March 2029. >> I mean, they are a Hampton based nonprofit organization. That's one thing, >> right? >> But they charge admission. >> They charge admission, >> but they're charging admission. >> And then we have to have clarity whether they're doing the show
nine times. >> No, six times. >> 20th or 29th? >> Yeah. Basically, it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. It's >> nine days straight. Right. But not the
town, >> right? >> And we do ask for a security deposit if it's over 50 people, protect the town's interest. >> I do know they have insurance through Hubble. So, they have a binder for this location. >> Okay. We'll want a copy of that, too.
But yeah, we'll need those before they book. We will need the the the security deposit and then the payment of any fees for the March 20th to 29th. >> All right. >> The one the other one seems to be okay in terms of >> all right for the I see on the initial
application I'm looking for 16 for a read through. Um how would we handle that Brian? Um, again, I think I would want to probably
if it's a small number of people, I think we would want to do >> the same 10 people, I'm sure. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, let's have the town minister meet with the principal of the organization to set up either a guest or
is the board supporting these two applications with the proper deposit, etc. >> Yeah. Move approval. >> Second. All in >> favor. Thank you. I think they're still casting that time. >> What's the What's the play?
>> It's the play version of All About Eve, the movie. >> See the movie? >> The movie. >> Okay, you can handle it. >> Yeah, I mean, >> yeah.
Are we going to Eva's dates? >> Eva's dates. >> Dates that Eva gave those. >> We take notice of Eva's date dates from the town clerk and approve those dates. >> So, um all favor
the board I'll check with Eva, but I believe the board needs to vote to change the polling location. >> I think you do. I'll double check. >> Yeah, we probably do change the polling location. >> Okay. Do we have a request for her to change the poll? >> No, she's going to he's going to check over there.
>> Okay. Plenty of time. All right. >> We also need to change just thinking ahead to the annual town meeting. Thinking about whether we need to amend the general bylaw for the uh posting of the warrant. >> I mentioned that before. >> We want to add this. I mentioned that before. Add this location.
>> Possible possible location. >> Yeah. Actually, in the general bylaws, is the location of the election in general bylaws or just any town hall? which is fine. We have a bunch of renewal licenses. Uh but they go split between Don and
myself, I guess. Okay. We have a request for renewal of the general license from the VFW to operate a jukebox. Is there anybody who can speak to the type of music on the jukebox? Dad,
>> no. Don, never been there. I've been there, but I've never played the jukebox now. >> Anybody know? >> Used to be a nickel. >> A nickel? God.
>> Okay. Remember the diners used to have you sitting on the end? At the end of the individual ones? >> Yeah. No. I know what you're talking about. >> Whatever. >> Remember that. >> Seen it in the movies. >> Diners. I used to have
>> Oh, boy. Ask your parents. All right. Motion request for approval of the general license for the jukebox. >> Some moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> We have uh 10 liquor licenses. Uh renewals. All these none of these are
new. We have no complaints from the police department on any of them and all 304 uh inspections have been completed. The one the caveat I would have is the discount liquors
only because this is next year's are the new people in place and all that type of thing. Is that all set? >> Nope. >> Is it is this re is this new license under the old owner's name? Yeah, it has to be because they're still investigating the new owners at ABCC. >> So, they don't think they'll be done
before the end of the year. >> It'll be okay. >> And another fee. >> Look at your lights. Your eyes light up. >> Okay. I have 10 liquor license requests for 2026. to VFW, Village Food Mart,
doing business as the good people, Lauren, or something like that last time. >> No, they're doing business as Village Food Mart, >> wasn't it? Good. >> Good food, good people. It's a business. >> Okay. Mountain View Restaurant, Lockachina, the Hampton House,
Cababella, the Hampton Grog Shop, the Hampton Discount Liquors, Great Horse, Geo Pizzeria, and the Black Sheep. >> Motion for licenses for 2026. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I common. >> Okay. We have 14 requests or licenses for common veticulars food guys licenses 14 of them. There are the VFW, the Village Food Mart, Reeds
Corner, Great Horse, Mountain View Restaurant, Gio's Pizzeria, Lacina the Hampton House Cafe, Hampton Mini Mart, Lou's Bagel Nook, Friends of Hampton Senior Citizens Inc. Dunkin Donuts, the Black Sheep Convenience Plus Gas
Station, and Cababella. >> And again, it's been inspected by the and no complaints. >> Motion approval. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Okay. Okay. Who feels like signing first? You.
>> Great. >> Okay. Other business not on the agenda. We received a communication from a resident on Warham Road reminding us that they had an issue with
uh they felt um excess flies from the operation at Great Horse Farm during the summer and they were wondering if we were going to address it. They understood obviously we're going through quite a bit with the move but the concern that it be
addressed before uh the next hot season. Eric, I think we did talk about I mean urine of butter. Do you notice it? Um I've definitely noticed an increase in flies over the last since the farm has been. No doubt
about it. I'm probably a little bit farther away but I definitely the people who are close I can only imagine what that's like. But I know if I go grill and I have a ice cream door open, there's flies like trying to get in like there's usually a good five or 10 flies that I never had in the past.
>> So I I can only assume that that's what it's about newer in the area, but so I can kind of >> I can only imagine what it's like the closer you get to the farm. >> Okay. >> Um I did ask uh what had been done with that. I talked to Shelley Sears, the
animal inspector to see if she' been down there to look at the uh you know the horse operation. Said obviously they do have a pretty good manure pile with that many horses there. She thought Finn was looking into it before. So she does have a schedule meeting
already with the farm operator in the next week. She'll bring it up to see if they can address it. Perhaps there something Don could check the new the new health inspector. >> Okay. and honcho that along. >> Maybe there's a different location they can or is there a monthly thing they can
do to it like covering or something like that that helps? >> I'll talk to them. >> Okay. All right. Is there any other correspondence we need to address, Brian, before the reports? >> Nothing. I'm aware of any calls we
should know about. >> Nothing good. >> What? You mean you handled everything? Thank you. >> We don't tell you the bad stuff. >> Yeah. Right. All right. Any select board reports? I have nothing. >> I have nothing. >> I also have nothing. >> All right. Good to hear. Brian, you must
have a report. >> Um, tree lightning was yesterday. Yesterday. >> Mhm. Um again, thanks to the police department and fire department for Santa Parade, Herb Foley, John, everybody else
who helped out make um Paul and Paul. >> Paul and Paul for the lights. >> Um the course in Green Mills was terrific. >> Yeah, they were great. >> Great turnout. >> Big sale was terrific, right, Don?
>> It was. The big sale was good. I brought one little package home. The other two packages didn't make it. >> Did you buy that box thing? >> That little box thing. Yeah. >> Um not a whole lot. Working with Herb to continue to make improvements here. Um
we did recap the budget and I I can share that with the board in terms of where we are um in terms of the uh the various accounts that we have. I'm still waiting to sign the uh $90,000 earmark with the state for the public safety improvements to the building.
And uh one of the top priorities there once that gets signed will be to uh expand the well replace the existing camera system with a much more uh uh complete camera system. >> So >> now Tony did say he was hoping to take
care of some of that under his money. >> Yeah. Um >> yeah, I'll coordinate with him on on >> and expand it to some of the other buildings as well, the senior center, the highway garage. >> Right. I mean, if we have the 90,000 for here, it may make sense if he could reallocate those resources to different
locations in town >> where we might be looking for uh coverage. So, >> what's the status of the HVAC upgrade? Um I know uh the facilities manager met with um uh HBAC consultant
I think he met with him over the weekend actually to be honest with you. Mhm. >> Um, so I think uh they went over to the senior center. Maybe it was the end of last week, but they went over to the senior center um and Herb got an uh a third opinion as to
what to do there. Um and uh he was waiting to hear back from the consultant about um his thoughts on this building, which is a little bit more a little bit more involved and not as straightforward. I think at the end of the day the the best approach that the consultant recommended for the senior
center was that it that it didn't make sense to uh try to modify uh the system in terms of trunk lines and that type of stuff in just replacing kind. I think that it was suggested to her that that would be more expensive to
if we were to reduce the number of let's say reduce the number of furnaces something like that you'd have to uh reduce some of the trunk lines and all that kind of stuff. So, at the end of the day, even though it might not be the greatest system or the greatest design, it's probably more costefficient to um
replacing kind. So, >> any update on the well thing or is that just going through a process? Right now, >> I have a meeting with Rose to talk about it. >> Well, the uh the ACL.
>> Yeah. For the uh cutting off the back well on >> Yeah. I have I have a meeting with Rose on the on the on the language of the ACL. >> Okay. Y >> yeah. >> Yeah. But um there's there's no barriers to >> I would there's just process at this point, right?
>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Uh let's see. There was something. Oh, senior center building committee is meeting Monday. I asked Gary where we stood on the bathroom upgrades. The contractor is waiting to get the last so they can be in and out quickly. They're
not waiting for a part. They want to have everything in their hands before they start the work and then they just it'll just go quickly because they're not waiting for the last bolt to show up. >> Yeah, that >> and actually they're happy that that's going to happen in a while because right now I know
they're extremely busy with the open enrollment going right now. I've heard it's been non-stop for Becky and the crew over there for open enrollment. I don't see any other questions. No, don't see a thing. the senior.
>> All right. Now, now I'll call on him because you've had more than enough time for the sitting there. >> Andy, sorry. >> How many furnaces do they have in the senior center? >> I heard it was two and two. Two heating, two cooling. Was that it, Brian? >> Furnaces. >> Yep.
>> All up in the All up in the ceiling. >> No, I know they're up in the ceiling. >> Yeah. I'm just saying sometimes you are better off to have at least two separate ones because as we've been up there, one has failed and it fails at the coldest time of year.
>> You're stuck hoping someone can get a part >> with that one. At least if you have two redundancies, >> you at least could limit the building along. It may not be 70°, but if you can hold it from freezing, >> you're good enough. So, >> I think you I think your point 100%
right. That's what the design had originally. Right now, they can't even repair what they have because it's so obsolete. You can't get that refrigerant anymore. You can't get the TV for it because they don't make that, you know. So, >> seriously, >> I just have one question.
>> You said this point at what expense we have to go out to bid? I mean, do you have Yeah, I know you have a limit. Is it over 10? Is it 10,000? Yeah, >> there's there's different ones and I don't really think the state has done a good job at bumping up the is it 30C
>> 30B >> 30B 30 requirement. I mean up to 10 you have you can buy >> 10 to something you have to make three attempts and get replies. I think anything over 50 is it over 50 or 25 has to actually go out to into the register.
50 is the the normal one for for for 50B uh 50B 30B. Yeah. >> But chapter 149 is is public construction, right? >> That's a little bit different. But >> you get a little lucky if they're on the state list, then you can if they're already on the state combine list,
>> emergency, >> you can declare an emergency and get it done without having to go out for that part. Yes. >> You can just do it, >> right? You just have to notify. Yep. >> As long as your paperwork is you told them afterwards and stuff like that, but they understand. Okay. >> Believe it or not, they let you do that. Shocking.
>> I know. I know. I I was asking because I I tell it a lot. This is a different place, not so much in Massachusetts. >> Sure. >> They were basically the same thing. >> Yeah. >> Boiler failure or something. It's got to be done. >> Get it done.
>> Okay. Uh Brian, so I see the new doors being constructed in the main hallway there. >> Um and that separates the library. So, this gets into the zone thing as well, >> right? >> Uh, we did or I did mention I I thought replacing a couple of the doors at the
entrance and we can make the wall for posting because we're going to definitely have to put a pretty large >> kind of like what they have at village basically. Same type of thing. >> Yeah. >> And hopefully not over the overhead thing where Lauren almost got her head taken off a couple times at the old town
hall. >> U, but is that's a progress thing down the road? taking a couple doors out and putting a wall there basically. >> Yeah, I think it's just it's just >> on the list. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> All right. We do have a uh executive session scheduled. Is there anything else to come before the Oh, basically timing. So, we have set uh the date of January
>> State of the Union. >> Yes. >> 12. 12 January 12th the second meeting in January will be what we call the state of the union which is the round table for all boards to come in and talk about quick recap of this year but what they're looking for for for the next
year. This gives us a good update kind of like a if you will prognostication what they're going to be bringing to the town meeting in May at that point. Where do you stand? What do you see? Highway department might say, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to need that new dump truck.
police that might need a new cruiser. We know about in January we have a better chance to prepare. Uh we do plan on having said the quarterly review in uh the following meeting in January
as well with the financial team and see where we stand at that point. We have a select board meeting next week. Lauren, right now you you mentioned that you know you're in a short week. What do we have that's critical for next Monday?
>> Anything? >> Actually, I don't think there's anything scheduled >> right now. I'd be willing to say is the board thinking of maybe just pushing it to the 22nd if we have nothing. >> You fine with that? >> If there's nothing >> make it a little easier, right, Lauren for the rest of the week and then the
>> Well, that's how we are here. Take a cookie. All right. So, our next select board meeting will be December 22nd. Okay. I expect you to be addressed appropriately for the holiday week. >> Right. All right. Nothing else to come
before the board. I'll entertain a motion for executive session. >> Mr. Chairman, I move we go to executive session pursuant to Mass General Law C3A section 21A3 to discuss collective bargaining as an open meeting may have a detrimental
effect on our position. and it's with the uh the highway union and we will not adjourn we not we will not turn return to public session all those by name John Flynn I >> Don Dford I
>> thank you all have a good weeks >> surely can but I want to take a cookie with