Good evening and welcome to the February 17, 2026 meeting of the Hampton Select Board and Board of Health being held in the townhouse in the large meeting room. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We are meeting and broadcasting on Zoom. We are also recording the meeting. Is there anyone else recording the meeting? Kristen from the Hannah War Times.
Welcome, Kristen. >> Okay. Do we have any minutes to review? >> Two sets. >> Hot dang. >> Just came in. February 3rd and February 9th. >> Literally just came in. >> So,
all right. So, the February 3rd meeting, we met with the water commission. We talked about the potential of expanding the water district to include the southern part of Main Street that we put the well in next to Academy Hall. If we connected, we would then not need to pay for the maintenance of that well, things
like that. It would only be adding three homes and the commissioners felt that the system could easily handle that. Something we were going to explore. The one requirement would be that we would need a town meeting article to expand the district formally, which would just be
Um the church, the parsonage, Howlet's house, and the little house next to the parsonage I believe are the ones in the district. We again discussed uh we discussed our budget. Brian had brought a preliminary spreadsheet.
Sher Hamilton came in to talk about a potential for uh land acquisition. I believe it was the green property off of South Road and that was a very short meeting
>> to approve. Motion to approve minutes. >> Oh, hi. >> Hi. >> Second. >> Thank you, Greg. All in >> favor. Derek. >> Huh? >> Derek. >> All right. Great. The meeting of February 9th,
Eva came in. We had a public hearing on early voting decision which the board agreed with the town clerk not to offer early voting for the town election. Brian updated us on updating the charge for the EV charging station. Again, a
review of our budget a little more completeness this time as we had a better sense of some of the external costs coming to us. We talked about Tom meeting coming up. We did some goal identification and that was it. Again, another fairly
short meeting. So moved. >> Second. All >> in favor? >> We need a name. John. >> Okay. I was going to say John, but we already have one. >> Yeah, right. It wouldn't work. >> Oh,
right. Great. So, we have before us the advisory committee. Welcome all. >> Thank you. Um we're here to get your thoughts on cola for the upcoming budget uh year. Uh we discussed it a little bit. We have, you know, we talked about
what we felt was right. Um my understanding is social security is about a 2.7% increase. >> It's actually I just checked before coming to >> you 2.8 >> 2.8%. Okay. So, um, just wondering what your thoughts are and if you have any
recommendations or >> the last couple years has been 2.5, right? >> Was it in the I a few years? >> Last year was 25 year before that. >> Was it three the year before? >> It was three the year before that >> and then a few years ago we did the 44 thing. Yeah.
>> Um, >> you know what the latest inflation number was? 2.4%. The one that came out this month. Okay. >> So, down from 2.7. Mhm. >> Um each 1% on basically the common covered
employees just raw um salary number is 18,500 for 1%. Um add in some the extra IRS employer taxes and the impact on him the county
retirement you can probably just figure 20 grand for every 1%. Mhm. >> Um I will also remind that all the people on the Collins study also get steps. Every other year they get a step which is good for 2%. >> Mhm. >> So statistically half the people will
get 2% this year as well as the cola. >> Possibly another 20,000 at that point. If you figured the 1% for everybody 2% over half people be another 20. Okay. >> Yeah. It's, you know, not everybody roughly >> when somebody leaves and we get a lower
cost than a less experienced employee, the costs go down. So, >> so potentially a two and a half would be a $50,000 impact >> roughly to the budget. >> Yeah. >> As with the step. >> No, that's separate from the step. >> Separate from the step.
>> Separate step could be another 20,000 on top of that. >> 70,000. >> Yeah. I think our consensus was anywhere from two to the max of 2.7%. >> It was 2.7. But >> just to share, we did close the highway
contract and that was we set them at 2 and a half% for 3 years. >> Okay. >> Okay. And we do like to be equivalent with everybody as much as possible. >> Yeah. >> We do have a couple police contracts that were done prior to this, so they already exist.
Well, we know every decision you make affects the position of the people bargaining for the next position. >> Exactly. >> Right. >> So, >> isn't isn't the highway two and a half, three, and three?
>> I've done two two. I started with minus two. Where did you What did you give them? >> It's right It's right there. >> Two and a half, three, and three. Right. >> Whatever. >> Either way, it's >> whatever says. >> Yeah. lead away this coming this all that we're talking about next year. So yeah, so three next year
>> if it's three next year but >> but of course they don't get steps. >> No, >> right >> I mean we want to be in the same ballpark obviously and you know so there's no >> but they're two and a half >> repercussions or you know bad feelings or anything. Well, it sounds like from what you're saying that two and a half
would be fairly equivalent to what we're seeing in the so to speak the country with CPA with the uh CPI the uh social security adjustment things like that would be equivalent to two and a half. >> Yeah, >> Dick, I'm not sure if you got a bump on
your social security this year. >> Um I don't know yet. I don't remember. >> Yeah. Two and a half. Um >> what >> the um >> 2 and 1/2 33 right >> Don was right >> 2 and a2 three free >> y
>> so the effective one right now we're paying 2 and 1/2 which is equivalent to what we gave everybody else next year their contract would be 3% I'm not sure if we're looking to go there with everybody else >> again >> again they don't get steps so
>> it doesn't sound like anybody be annoyed at two and a half does it I don't think so. >> No. >> You know, and the half a percent is only 10 grand. You know, you were going to try to squeeze. >> And half the people are getting the step as well. As you said, the ones that didn't get it this year, which was 2%
are getting 2% next year. >> And I don't think two and a half is going to be unsavory to the employees. >> Well, if we went to two, >> well, to be honest, I mean, in the industry, and you probably know as many companies, not a lot of people are giving raises,
you know, out there. So, I think we've been pretty consistent with making sure our people are taken care of, like you said, with a step at least every other year and a raise every year. So, if you average it out, it's three and a half% every year, right? With a step figured
in. >> Well, so if you're looking for advice, are we saying we could we could support the two and a half right now? >> Yeah. Well, to to quote uh Bob Dylan, the subterranean homesick blues, you don't need a
weatherman to see which way the wind blows and the buzz of winds aren't blowing fair. >> No. >> Favorable. >> No, we were fortunate that the prediction that what Brian brought up last week to sing the whole song, >> Bob,
hard to believe we don't get more clicks on YouTube. Um >> two and a half >> two and a half >> that would be our guidance to you but it's your call. >> Okay. >> All right. Thanks. Great. >> So I have one more thing for you all before you leave.
>> So I brought this up to Doug. I'm not sure if he shared with you. >> Yep. So the town has what we call Rizzo which is a high volume copier. And you recall it was in the Melville room kind of on the side there all the time that copier looking thing. So it dropped
dead. It had been repaired, repaired. It was so old they don't have parts for it anymore. It was used primarily for the scribe plus any high volume thing that Eva had probably more back in the day for parks when they had flyers that
run out. Now they don't do flyers anymore. We're looking for right now it's dead. it. The scribe is being printed privately at my office and they're looking to get a new one. It is kind of an emergency. I can't keep printing it
per se. A new one would be 64.50. They could lease it for $179 a month for 3 years, but then after you're done, you don't have the machine anymore. I would say that last one was here. maintenance on that lease or is it where's the maintenance cost for
if we leased it? >> It includes three years parts and labor >> right now. And >> either whether you buy or lease. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So, the other one was here for and I didn't get an exact number, but you probably saw it at every meeting behind you down there. That one did.
>> It earned its money. >> Yeah, it had to be. >> What do we do for other copers? We have a main copier in the uh copy room, if you will. >> The Rizzo was bought by EVA, the tax collector, out of revolving funds back in the day, right,
>> when she used to get the bank u the bank processing companies to buy lots of data. Now they've all consolidated and her revolving fund was was abolished a few years back and that all that the money that she does go does goes into revolving fund at the time. Uh street
lists were a big deal. >> Mhm. Now, the need for a paper stream list has diminished. She doesn't need as anywhere near as many, >> right? Email them out and that's it. >> When I when I heard about this today, I asked her about it. She thought the library used it some.
>> Um, she still has some little use about it. She wasn't aware that this was going on and she thought park and wreck had had some use for it. So, um, I had a couple of questions on it. One was, have we looked at who else has been using it?
Is anybody else still using it besides occasionally Yuka and um the scribe? Um is it going to be in this building or in the senior center? >> Well, that's the thing. The usage of it is like I said the scribe which runs
minimum of four double-sided pages and 2500 copies. So, it's doing 10,000 sheets just for the scribe. Could be as many as 15,000. And the other question I have, what would it cost to send that scribe to a quick print?
>> She got some prices and the lowest was 800 a month and the highest was 2,000 a month. And that depending on whether they wanted it stapled, folded. If you just wanted a pile of sheets, it was 800, which is incredibly high compared
to the lease cost of the machine. >> So it wasn't cost effective to send it out. Does this machine collate with staples? >> That's a great question. I thought it did, but I don't I don't think it staples. No, >> it may co I don't think it coates to be honest.
>> I think we have volunteers doing that. >> Well, they do. I mean, because it goes out faster. Yeah. >> Does the lease have a maximum on the number of copies? Like if you go over that, you have to pay more. >> No. Like the Xeroxes, we have a click charge in our contract allows you x number of clicks per month. That's what
you mean? No. This is once you own it, you can run as M. >> So, where would the copier be located? Would it be in town hall so that other uh departments would have um access to it? >> Well, right now that hasn't been determined. Becky is saying she
certainly could fit it in her place, you know, because they're going to use it once a month, >> but if we assess that there's needs here, we can discuss that. Obviously, I think we have the room for it here. Basically, you're looking for $6,400 to buy a new
>> 6450 >> for the senior center >> for the senior and other town hall uses. Yeah. Because >> if we're if you're entertaining the thought of placing it at the senior center, then it would seem to me that >> we just said that
>> it would be a purchase. >> She said she offered that selecting it to the side. >> No, I'm I'm aware of that. Yeah, it is not a it's not a machine you use casually, you know. It's a very high volume machine. Um it's not anything that people >> Yeah, we're not putting the agenda out
on that machine or anything like that. >> No, if you're not if you're not printing a,000 sheets, it's not worth it firing it up. Just some quick numbers, too. The to lease just the quick number 179 a month for 36 comes out to $6,444 and the purchase is $6,450.
We would own it theoretically for a coincidence. Yeah. So if we leased it, we'd have nothing and paid the same value, but hopefully you got a machine left at the end, >> right? >> And the other one lasted >> 15 years, >> right? Yeah. So normally we wouldn't go
to reserve fund, but this is a piece of town equipment that died unexpectedly. And that's what the reserve fund is for. >> The thing that I would ask is u to make sure that does coalate state. Make sure it does. Well, that's I will tell you my machine does that
>> and my machine was $110,000 my machine. It collates folds and staples. >> A lot of schools have >> copy machines that coate the staple and I can assure you that they're not $110,000. >> I'm sure. >> Why don't we, if you would look into
that? >> Well, again, this is a very high volume machine. >> And those machines will get into click charges, too. Those are the ones that like if you're getting a Xerox, you're paying you're in a contract with X number of clicks. >> As as far as the Coline staple, I think
we we I don't think you should put a CRM on without finding out what Becky's needs are, what she's used to, >> but Becky shouldn't be the only person using it is my point. >> So, I understand that Becky would be the primary your senior center would be the
>> Yeah. you know, the primary um department that would be utilizing it, >> but if you have other departments that need it, >> um >> make it available, >> you know, it should be made available. >> Yeah. The other thing you said is she
has to print her own ballots on a fairly large election. >> She was using it for that, too, >> right? I mean, that you bring up a good point like who's using the most copies. Okay, if we're saying the senior center is 120,000 copies a year, 10 or 10,000
times 12 months and then you figure out parks is going to need 500 copies and then EVA is going to need a,000 copies or something like that or 2,000 maybe for elections. So get a sense of >> my opinion is if the warranty is the same whether you lease or buy, I would
think you would just you would buy it as long as you could justify the use of it. >> All right. And I think >> and I think Brian could get the people together and Kathy's point is like ascertained the use of it and where it's the best place to keep it >> so that everybody has easy access to it.
It's not of course in the machine but we got to make sure that it's accessible to everybody. >> You know that it's not tucked in a corner and it's inconvenient for this department. >> Right. Right now we're looking for the ability to at least go out and buy the new machine. So, we're not going to be going
to PIP and paying $2,000 for next month's. >> Yeah, you have to go. You got to buy or buy it is the more advantageous. >> Well, I think buying is better than leasing. >> Yeah, >> definitely. >> Now, the supplies for it, I will tell you that the senior center has always
have been buying the supplies, the toner and stuff like that. And then I think Eva, as she's needed to, she'll buy a toner for it. And that's already in their budgets. Well done. I don't know what the maintenance charge would be after 3
years, but I'm sure it'll be higher than it is now if we ask them now because that's three years from now. >> Be cheaper than $179 a month. >> Oh, sure. Yeah. I mean, they did offer I will tell you they offered a used machine, but the machine we have now is already
obsolete. And if we bought a used machine, they couldn't give us a guarantee that the parts for that one would be available in a year. >> They couldn't warranty, >> right? So it just again and that was $4,000. So >> who's the vendor?
>> Rizzo. >> Oh, direct. >> Yeah. Yeah. They're a local rep. >> So if we buy this machine, we still have to pay a maintenance fee. I thought you said >> after No, after 3 years. Threeear warranty. says price includes delivery, installation, three years, parts, labor,
and startups. >> So, basically a request for a 6450 from the reserve fund. >> You want the vote on that? >> Is your was meeting posted? >> Yes. >> Your caller.
Okay. >> It's up to you. >> She didn't get the badge. You can entertain a motion, I guess. Okay. Motion to um approve the transfer of money. I think I'm saying this right. Um from the reserve fund. >> Yes. >> For
>> 6450. >> 6450. >> Brian, would you say put that in acquisitions? Basic office acquisitions would make sense. >> Yeah. >> Okay. To purchase a um new highspeed
copy. Yep. Okay. Second. No, she seconded it. Um, I'm I'm asking for a second. >> Oh, second. Sorry. My bad. >> That's okay. >> All in favor? >> I >> I opposed.
>> I just need more information. I want to know where it's going to be. >> I want to know if it's going to be at the senior center. I want to know if it's going to be in town hall. And I'd like to know what other departments may get some usage out of it besides the the
COA, but I'm already out voted. So >> I guess here's yours. >> I guess we'll have to trust the town administrator to work out those details, >> right? >> I guess you're in the hot seat now. >> That's okay. >> Not the first time. >> Yeah. Really?
>> Hey, thank you. >> Thank you all. Um, so Heather, are you going to be sending someone asked sending out the normal sheets all departments for budgets and stuff like that? >> Asked me that. I don't have a template or anything. >> We just talked about we're going to create something workshop. Okay, great. >> Um, you know, but in the meantime, they
could they can use last year's and doctor it up, but if we have a template, we can send it out. >> Okay. >> I think Brian has some thought about clerical help, too. >> He wants to talk to you later. >> Okay, >> great. Thank you for coming in. Yeah, thank you.
>> We'll keep you in the loop on the budget season, believe me. >> All autograph. >> Oh, no. Well, >> come on now, guys. >> Oh, we were talking to you. >> Well, you know, expecting you to make another trip. >> Did you stay for me or come from home?
>> Came from home. >> Okay, fine. Whatever. >> Yeah. Four miles each way. It's a tough commute. >> Fire trucks on there. That's why it's so big. >> Fire truck. Okay. >> Holy just in time for open burning
season. >> So you have to front it and then you get a check from FEMA or >> That's my understanding. >> Okay. >> We um we just realized today it was a Marco war um grant. So >> those are the best those are the best grants.
>> This one. >> Yeah, it's our DVD. Yeah. >> Okay. Is there actually an entity called the Hampton Volunteer Fire Association? >> There is an entity called the Hampton Volunteer Fire Association. They used to sell flowers at Easter. That's not mine.
>> Lance Club used to sell light bulbs. I mean, everything changes. >> Uh they do funerals for firemen and they do scholarships for fireman's kids. >> They buy brush trucks. stuff happens. >> Thank you, gentlemen. >> Thank you.
>> I raised that question day one. >> What do you He was asking Greg and Greg had no idea. All right. So, we have a couple of budgeting, but we do have Tony here. Do we want to just jump to the union contracts since he's here? >> Great. >> Were there a couple questions online?
>> Want to move your screen back? No, I think Tad Ted Thad just made a comment saying that the senior center >> is always pressed for space or something something like that. So maybe I think the suggestion was general. >> No, she had a space for it. >> Oh, space for it. Anyways,
>> all right. So, let's just jump up to Highway Union contract. So, Brian, we have an updated copy that's been vetted by um what was your rep's name? >> Jessica. Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir.
>> I have the clean version in the front of your in your front pocket there. >> Did you see the clean copy? >> I did not. >> Okay. >> Or the clean copy that >> the one she we put the edits in that we agreed to last night. >> Four edits that we added that I added
>> and then and then you sent it to her and she agreed to it. >> I sent it to her. Um I don't know if I heard back. She gave you some some things to change. >> What? >> I guess there was some things that she said that would need to be changed. I
don't know if it's which version you got. That's why I wish. >> So, she emailed me. I made four changes that well, three changes um that she had requested in an email on Friday if that
helps for timing. >> Okay. That could be what she was talking about. >> Did she tell you exactly what they were? >> Did you resent them back over? >> Yeah, I sent them today. Yeah.
Let me see. I sent her the changes at 127. Yeah. Fortunately, I didn't get a chance to read them. So, her requested changes were one was I had forgotten to put in
the two paragraphs about winter weather, the winter weather event defining the winter weather event. Um, the duration of the contract. I had that from from tonight's date. She wanted it to be June 30th, 2025, which I think is
fine. She asked for information about when uh we'll get the information you have when the insurance changed. So, I researched that. I gave a little bit of information. >> What about the insurance change? I'm sorry. I just want to more information
when the uh the original contract that we're working off of the the previous contract >> Yeah. >> had language that said uh July 1st, 2022, the town will pay 75% of the health insurance, right? Cuz you were negotiating that contract when that
happened. So that language needs to change in the contract. >> Um which is which is done in there. So I think she was just wondering about that. And then she asked for language in regards to the floating holiday. >> Yeah. What you said something about the
duration of the contract which then you said June 30th. That's the end date. >> July 1st. Sorry. >> All right. Okay. It's highlighted. This the changes are highlighted in this. >> Yeah. I didn't get anything else.
>> These are the recent changes. Those were the So, this document, the one that you're holding now, shows all the changes based on the uh from the previous contract >> and the new additions.
>> Yep. anything anything that's that's been deleted or added is in red and the things that are highlighted are the things that she requested on Friday to be changed which I don't which I don't see a problem with
And she said she said she wasn't coming tonight. >> Yeah, I guess she had >> her pellet stove is um laying out sparks house. >> I can see that. >> She's not zooming in, is she?
>> Shut it off. Caroline Kristen. >> All right. So the one just a quick spelling er 1210. >> Yeah. >> Statutes. Statutes. Uh wait
again. And that's the part she was talking about, the 75%. Which one was in here? The statue was 12 >> 10 12 >> 10 >> 12 >> 12 10 >> 12
statues. Oh, >> the statues. Mhm. That's a carryover from the last one. We'll change that. >> That's a carryover from last one. >> The 12 point 12.10.
>> Yeah. >> You want me to check the old one right here? >> What's that? >> I got the old one right here. >> Oh, yeah. Anything that's anything that is not red is the same from the previous version.
>> Well, it looks like it hasn't there. We discussed it's got the period we talked about down the November to April. So, we've agreed on all this stuff, but it's just in here and there's a typo, right? So, what do you need? >> I don't need anything.
>> I don't need anything. >> Well, do you do we need to vote on it or vote final approval? I guess we have to in public, right? >> Mhm. >> Okay. I make a motion we approve approve agreement agreement between the town of Hampton and the American
Federation of State County Municipal Employees Council number 93 uh local 1725 aka the highway department as amended. >> Do we also need to remove 1210?
>> No, it was just a spelling error. I wouldn't even mention that. >> I'll second that. >> Clearly, Tony, you all set up. >> I'm just finishing up here cuz I didn't get a chance to see this before I got here. So, I'm sorry about
that. Well, I think the big thing was the language about the uh the period and I think that's consistent what we talked about right there. >> Yes. I was going to say we can >> Yeah, go ahead. While Tony is reviewing
that, I have a request for a one-day liquor permit for an interactive learning through art program at the senior center on March 12th from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. for just wine. >> Just wine. >> Just wine. >> Move approval.
>> Second. >> All in favor? I >> quickly had the discussion last year. Why didn't we do like a annual permit form? What was the reason? Do you remember? >> No. >> We talked about it. No, we did. We did. I don't know. It's not like we've changed the money. It's like >> as long as they're following the same
you're doing wine and following the same procedures. It's like a >> Yeah. And they're doing it already. I assume they're doing the serve save people the whole thing. It's already a >> roof for some reason. >> Not that they don't like getting these and knowing what's going on. But >> I wonder if there's some reason we can't Would that be make them like a
>> reseller doing anything or you know, but we shall check into that. I think we almost did say if we like knowing what's going on. Hey, keep bringing them to us. Do we have a clean copy of the proposed regional agreement to review? >> No.
>> Okay. You didn't make a copy of the proposed regional agreement. Is it? >> I don't know if you seen it. Right. I mean, I'm referring back to the one they discussed at the planning meeting. It seemed like on I haven't really seen a It's
>> You sent it. You emailed it to us after I said I couldn't open it. You >> sent it, didn't it? >> Yeah. >> Did you open it? Did you open it? >> I could open the second one you sent. room for a pound. >> We can do that one.
>> What? Oh, that's not it. >> Can you if you open it, could you put it up like six? It's page six is the only issue that's >> Mhm. Oh, yeah. I got a grade surf by that property. >> What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The misspelling
property. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Got the misspelling in there. Uh, >> so Tony, I want me to be short. We got a lot going on. Do you feel you want to come back another time or >> No, I think it should be okay.
I just see some things that we got to work on next time. Okay. Hopefully, we'll all be here. All right. I have a motion on the floor to accept the contract as written. All in favor? >> I >> I Thank you. Thank you for your patience. >> Sorry about that. >> That's all right. We want to be sure.
It's your your livelihood. >> Great. >> We're good. >> So, we'll sign copies. We'll get you a copy of it. And >> he's got to sign it, too. >> Is there a place for you to sign as well? >> Yeah. >> Great. You have the original there? Mhm. You >> want to sign it now? >> The clean copy? Yeah. Look at Tony sign.
We'll sign after that or you can get home get your cookies at home. >> You guys got a panel extra panel. >> I don't have to sign anything now. >> No, just this just this just
just sign your copy. >> All right, gentlemen. Thank you. Have a >> good night. You, too. All right. So, we're going to talk about their budget review, which when we put on there because we saw them present to
Warner Finance. Now, I asked to have this put on. It was only in hope that they would be able to make it in time. You had conversations with John, Dr. Provost. >> Were they available to come next week? >> Yeah. No, they are planning on coming on
the 23rd. >> Okay. So, we'll pass this and just Okay. >> All right. So, now discussion of regional agreement to be on here because again, like I said, watching the planning meeting, Donald would be there because we had both the wake and our meeting that night, I believe. Right.
Right. >> So, um I don't know if we actually said something formal on that, Don. I do want to The board wants to extend its condolences to Mrs. Glover. >> Oh, yeah. with the passing of her husband, Miss Clever was valuable member of the select board for a number of years and school committee
>> school committee as well and and uh Bruce was a valiant member of the community and a member of the Springfield Police Department as well and our sympathies to both Mrs. Glover and uh Matt and Mark for sons.
So, um, discussion of regional agreement. It seemed like at that planning meeting they were discussing a lot of changes that perhaps we hadn't seen at this point. And Don, you had a chance to go deeper into it. >> The only Okay, so the only real change that they
>> No way I can see. We need a bigger TV. >> I think you'd have to put it right next to our table. >> Turn it this way. Turn it. Dad, do you want to come up here or do you want to see it or >> see? You want to sit next to Brian again or >> what is that?
>> It's the regional agreement. The draft regional hard time seeing it. >> We don't want to exclude you if you'd like to see it. >> So, where were areas that were different you saw concerned with? >> The only area that's different
I'm not really concerned with >> that hasn't already been like I mean obviously changes but we've discussed. >> Yeah. Yeah. Go down to Go down to D. >> Uh oh. >> Move it down. >> D. >> D. Yeah, that says E. Want D. Go down.
Well, wouldn't that Oh, down. >> Oh, D. Okay. >> D. >> So, they had So, the original change was when the district assigns students from any grades from both memory towns to a single school building, which single school building
is a lease building. The building will be treated as a district-owned building. And then we would pay a portion of the number of students. >> Was this a proposed change? This D here or previously existing >> proposed change. >> Right. So they're eliminating a proposed change basically.
>> Right. So they're eliminating a proposed change and they put in E. >> A new way of write it. >> A new way to write it actually. >> All right. Let's see. It says capital cost of the district owned equipment and property shall be a portion to the member towns based on the ratio with
that member town's foundation enrollment calculated on the basis of the member's town's three-year rolling average foundation enrollment. Okay. for grades served at that property >> property >> for spelled wrong property from the
member town for the member town bears to the total foundation enrollment of the member town of the district calculated on the basis of combined three-year rolling average for grades served by that property for all member towns okay so then go to F
>> but one second so but they're not district owned all right if this is in reference to Whoop middle. It's not in reference to it because it's not district owned. >> Correct. Well, well, this is the issue. >> Or is there something else after that's going to like play into this?
>> So, the concern that Wilberham has is that they're responsible for the capital repairs and the core program, the core thing under that >> because it's town owned >> town owned building, >> right?
>> Okay. >> Mhm. and they can't assess us anything because it's not cover regional agreement. >> Right. Right. And they're very concerned about that. And they're saying that our position of not wanting to pay for capital costs that were deferred over
the course of 10 years is holding them hostage. >> But I think but I think >> if they addressed it 10 years ago, this wouldn't be an issue, >> right? But I think they're trying to conflate two different things here. We never said if they got into the core
program and the core program said we're going to totally renovate the Wolverham Middle School for a new regional middle school. We never said we wouldn't pay our part of that. Of course, we wouldn't. It'd be like getting a new school, >> right? We our problem has only been the as you
said the m deferred maintenance cost that is part of war that's >> and what's happening in in the rhetoric that they they don't need to be critical but the rhetoric that rhetoric that they're using is they're creating a
narrative that Hamden is not paying his fair share for students in that building when in fact we are. We pay 20% assessment or 21% assessment to the region. >> And so that means we pay 21% of the teacher salaries, the custodial
salaries, the utilities, >> the lights, the insurance, >> the routine maintenance, the snow plowing and everything else in the building. >> Our only cons our only complaint or concern is why should we pay for capital costs that should have been done 10
years ago on a building that we don't own? That's where it stands. >> Okay. So, is there a further paragraph? >> That's it. Go to go to paragraph F. Go down and F just
explains that the they they'll pay the emergency the district will pay the emergency cost. We're not budgeting current. >> Okay. But I >> we do that. >> But I don't see I don't see a problem with E per se because it talks about regional owned properties, right? which is what we've been doing,
>> right? >> So, how does E move this how does that move the goal line at all? >> Because the middle school isn't a regional >> that's my point. So, it's >> to our argue to whatever argument they think we have here, that doesn't change anything. >> No. >> Right.
>> No. And that's what concerns them because they want to change that. They want us to pay for any capital things and there's concern >> that we won't participate in the core program or the feasibility study. >> Mhm. >> The majority of students or whatever you
want to say the middle school program at Green Meadows closed on what year? >> 2020 2021 officially? >> 2122. Yeah. >> Right. Right. >> So at that point those children were fully in >> right >> to there. >> Mhm. and deferred maintenance at that
building extended back long before that time. >> Long before >> long before that time. >> And so just because you've been renting the house with the other tenants for four years, you shouldn't have to put the new driveway in that's been there for 25 years.
>> Yeah. Like I have an apartment in Chabe and I don't charge the new the boiler went I didn't charge the new tenant. Well, you know, you got to pay me part of the boiler, >> right? Because I mean that's your as landlord that's your job to make it happen. >> Yeah. Right.
>> I I think to John's point the only change this actually this actually allows for >> this actually allows for a district own school. >> Yeah. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Which is kind of the direction. >> That's the direction. >> It's kind of like seems like where we're
headed. >> And one of the select >> years but it seems like that's where we're going. And one of the Wilberham Select Board members brought that up that we could sell the school to the regional for a dollar. >> Mhm. >> That would make it really cool. But I don't think they want to do that because
an investment there, you know, >> right? >> And that's where we are. But we're not holding them hostage. We're >> paying our fair share of everything in all the schools. >> And I have to I think small number. Right. I think I heard and I don't want to put words in m I thought I heard one
of the administrators maybe Dr. Provis Dr. Slaughter whatever saying that in the best of all worlds if he had to choose he would like the new middle school to be on the Menitar property as opposed to the old site just for
convenience consolidation of maintenance everything there and obviously they have room because you had two high schools on there at the same time construction >> bus was just like snowing over by the If the if the core program goes >> agrees with that agrees with that >> and they may but
>> uh which would and I understand Warham's point they would then have another vacant building which would be you know they have two vacant schools which would be not different than many other towns in the commonwealth really >> um
>> so on that note we probably should read that letter >> right so we received a letter from Udon Craig, >> former select board. >> Rest. Thank you. Member of the Hen board
selectman and select board, I believe. Yeah, both. >> Well, both. >> Both. Yes, exactly. >> Uh well-written letter to the Hampton Select Board. I'm writing in reference to the Warham recent Warham select board meeting where a discussion centered on the middle school and the regional agreement between our two communities.
February 9th, 2026, starting at approximately the 1 hour 45 minute mark, available, by the way, on the Wilberham public access through their website. During that meeting, Wolver Town Administrator Nick Burrow referenced the
possibility of removing Hampton students from the middle school due to Hampton's position on capital cost, suggesting that Wolver may need to say, quote, "Enough is enough." Select board member Mark Ducey expressed that Warraham feels as though it is being held hostage
quotes while also acknowledging that Hampton is not at fault for the situation as it was the school committee that allowed Hamlin transfers into Wolverham. And my quick note is the regional agreement that allows that. The school committee implemented the regional agreement. Would you say that's correct?
>> Yeah. >> School committee went along with the with what's in the regional agreement, right? Which both towns agreed to. Right. >> What seems to be missing from the conversation is important historical context. Between 2015 and 2018, Hampton
was effectively forced into this situation when the district closed Hampton's middle school after a long drawn out process. Hampton Middle School students were then educated within a elementary school environment, resulting in unequal class offerings and limited
educational opportunities compared to their peers. This was not a voluntary strategic shift by the town of Hampton, but rather a district-driven decision that significantly altered the educational structure for our middle students, middle school students. Middle school
parents were also encouraged to apply for transfers to the Wilberham Middle School, which was allowed under the regional agreement. However, before any moves were made, a feasibility study was conducted in 2015 to determine whether Wilberham Middle
School, which is owned solely by the town of Wolverham, could serve as a regional middle school for both communities. That study identified substantial building deficiencies, including HVAC failures, water and sanitation concerns, windows and doors
in need of replacement, fire protection system upgrades, kitchen deficiencies, serious air quality concerns, and asbestous containing floor tiles that were beginning to crack. It was also noted that there would be overcrowding in its current configuration without
modular units installed. As a former member of the Hammond Select Board, my position has been consistently that Hammond should not invest significant capital dollars to band-aid repairs for a building and property owned by another municipality,
particularly one that had known deficiencies prior to its use as a regional facility. Many of these concerns remain unresolved today, especially overcrowding. In its current configuration, the district structure does not provide Hamlin with ownership,
equity, or long-term security relative to capital investment. That said, I do not believe this is a dead end. In fact, I believe it's an opportunity. While I do not support hand assuming capital responsibility under
the district's current framework, I strongly support exploring a true regional solution through the core program. Both towns should commit to a unified regional middle school vision, including location, governance, structure, ownership, and long-term
capital planning. The core program provides a structured path to determine whether the existing middle school can realistically be transformed into a modern, fully regional educational facility or whether a new structure would better serve our both communities
for the next 50 years. We have done this successfully before. The regional high school and the miniature campus stand as examples of how joint ownership, shared equity, and collaborative capital planning can work when both towns have a clear stake in
the outcome. If we are to move forward productively, the focus should not be on assigning blame or drawing lines in the sand, but on determining what a fair and sustainable regional middle school model looks like. one that respects taxpayers in both communities while providing
equitable educational opportunity for all students. Respectfully, Craig Revest. Uh, great letter. I would move that this letter be included in our minutes of the meeting. >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? I
>> um I think he really did a great job of summarizing some of the things we've been saying all along and I think Craig was very consistent in saying this during his tenure on the board as well. So I think a really good job articulating where we are and where a lot of people
in town are as well. >> All righty. Okay. So >> we don't so quickly in the region >> on this. Go ahead. >> Well, we don't have anything to act on at this point, but we'd like to where are they going with this? >> Right. >> I mean, is this coming to town meeting
in the near future? If >> they want to bring it to the spring town meeting, >> what are they bringing? this change >> the whole changes. >> Uh-huh. Okay. Well, hopefully we'll hear about that in the next joint. I know you love joint meetings, huh? >> Yeah, I know. I know. >> Okay.
>> We can ask him next week. >> There you go. >> Um >> Oh, yeah. We can talk to him next week about it. >> All right. So, is the school committee coming as well? I mean, we kind of talked uh was it John making the presentation or I assume Michelle and
probably Dr. Tabasi and maybe Sean as well would be here. >> Yeah. >> Subcommittee. >> Okay. Um you think next week we'll be in the other room? >> I mean we can set up in there. >> Yeah.
>> I don't think we'll have any a we'll have the same >> Well, the same AV. >> Yeah. Okay. >> For that meeting if we want. Right. >> Okay. Moving on to another update on the select board or health budget review. Brian, do you have something to throw
up? Anything new? >> I can the same one we looked at last time. >> I do want to discuss I do want to talk to uh Ryan Paxton about the uh
public health provision. >> Okay. the sense of its effectiveness in our current environment. Right? Obviously during co it was made a good tool. >> Oh yeah. Did >> you get a copy? Did you get one copy?
Did you? >> Everybody got a copy. >> Really? Yeah. Oh, it's good. Great. You can bring it up. >> All right, there we are. >> Great. We are. So, similar to what we talked about last week, you've been able
to tighten some things, Brian, or much change or >> Nope, not at this point. Um, things we So, outstanding questions as we kind of look through this real quick. Um, we got to shrink
townhouse and TW. Uh, we need to finalize these the the custodial projected custodial costs, maintenance and repair budget, and then utilities. So, I'll work with her um so that we can figure out what what these are going to be.
Um these are basically the same numbers that we carried. These need these need to increase essentially is what I'm saying. Um >> I wonder if that monitoring and testing you know we talked before about the fact that I think we had the conversation
with the state people Brian it might have been at the meeting that was you know not a private meeting but where they came to the town hall that time. >> Yeah. My question was always going to be, it's been closed for now 25 years, at what point are some of the tests
going to fall off. If you've been testing for VOCC's or whatever and it's been ND for 24 years, why do we have to keep paying for that test? >> And I think Dan at that time, Dan Hall, said that's a valid question and we can
talk about that, especially now we have to do PAS. Can you take something off the list that's never been detected? No. No, there's no uranium and there's still no, you know, so that might be a question. Maybe we can bring that down a bit because we're not going to be testing for some esoteric thing that
hasn't been there for 25 years and is not going to magically show up. >> Yeah. And I think I think during that conversation because there's less private wells because there's less private wells now after the completion of the water district expansion project. I think
they're they're they're more willing to relax the testing, >> right? because we've we've been pro proactive on the whole thing and I think they appreciate that. All right. Well, I was wondering if that chance of that 50 number might be able to come down even more. >> Yep. I I was talking with with John
Plaster earlier today and I'm looking to get a final number for the number of private wells that are still in that area >> that we're supposed to test. It gets a little sticky. I know there were conversations about do we have to keep paying um with Mass D
because there was a conversation with Mass E at some point. They're just their opinion was it needs the private wells need to be tested. We don't they don't really care who pays for it but that it needs to be tested. >> Mhm. >> Um and then it gets into questions of
supposed fault and liability frequency of testing >> four times a year. It was quarterly and they also did >> okay if we're finding nothing can we go annually or >> yeah they also did >> there was conversation about that after so long you know
>> yep they also did talk about likely before just saying no testing going to annual twice a year or >> we can get some consistently ND they would talk about yeah >> because at some point it's seasonal right and how the groundwater moves it's
going to fluctuate throughout the year so you would think after you get five, six, seven years of of data, quarterly data, you would be able to see what's >> what's moving where essentially. >> All right. So, down to the TWWB part,
the three things I mean custodial. >> You think that's enough? >> No. >> Right. No. And that's a conversation. Well, that Reb and I are going to have to we're going to work on those numbers, >> see what's realistic for the custodial
with the custodial budget there. >> I'm still worried. I mean, I know you bumped up utilities, but I just don't see it going down my bills at the office and just, you know, >> Eversource and the grid. It's just I don't see any news out of Boston
saying they're willing to entertain a rate cut, you know. generate car. >> So, might be a thing there. Maintenance and repairs. So, that's going to be an annual thing separate from the obviously
the appropriations of Tommy and the warrant articles. Now, these are going to be ongoing. Have we identified enough to make up the 30,000 or we going to shift some things from potentially the phase B stuff that might make up some of these repairs?
I think for the maintenance and repairs I we could spend $30,000. >> Things that aren't on the phase B or just things that we've discovered during our move. Basically, >> just things that that that we know about in in the building that aren't critical
right away but need to be addressed sooner rather than later. >> Okay. Um you know things things that come to mind are the there's the outstanding acco with mass DP about the well. Um in that investigation there was suggestion that
the electric panel be replaced and the um so so there's things that that that that can be replaced that need to be replaced as part of proactive maintenance. >> Well what happens you pull a thread and you don't realize that something else happens. If we have flooring, >> say we have an event here and some of the because we got that main hallway.
It's like the tiles are starting to look a little shoddy, >> right? >> I don't know if that number is reflective of that or we might have to bump that up cuz those are starting to >> That is one I'm concerned especially as we come to town meeting starting to get worse. >> That's pretty visual too.
>> Yeah, that's one of the things that that I was thinking about in terms when we get into talking about capital. Okay. um how we want to address that's certainly one of the areas that I think need to be the first priority.
>> Well, is that something that first off how are the capital how are the warrant articles right now that we appropriated for separate from obviously from the HVAC the non-HVAC articles are they pretty well expended?
>> Yes, >> or committed. >> There's a project list the committed, right? Yeah. Yeah. >> All right. So, even with the earmark, we're still Well, I'll take that back. The money we were talking about for the AV was any of that in there. Obviously,
not enough to cover what we quoted, but >> No, that was just that was just build that was just building >> Okay. >> building maintenance and upgrades to the building itself. >> All right. So, all the money is pretty much committed or earmarked at this point, right? Uh the only savings might
be if you came in lower on the HVAC then we figured that might have a little extra in it but we don't we don't know that yet. >> Right. >> Okay. So if we wanted to do the floor in this current fiscal year, we'd have to identify first off the cost for it,
which you might be able to figure out based on a couple rooms you've done. >> Yeah. And I'm sure the company would >> give us a quote >> coming in. And then we'd have to identify, you know, oh my gosh, it's going to be a $15,000 build to do that hallway.
And it's always going to be one of those things. Well, do you do the hallway or do you go around the corner and do the other hallway while you're here? Anyhow, type thing. And we refine 15. Brian said, "Hey, long claims is going pretty good." Or something like that. I think to Eric's point, I'd like to investigate
doing it this year, even before a town meeting, you know, just because it's not looking that great. It's going to get a lot more traffic on it and I think as Brian has said, we have to
keep plugging away at different things and different things otherwise all of a sudden it'll all build up and we'll be >> right. Right. >> Yep. No, nothing I'd like to say. Can we at least get a quote at what it would for that quarter and then phase
alternate would be long as you're here. Do you go around the corner? >> Yeah. I mean, because it's cheaper. There's a base cost just like you saw with the uh with the rooms. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. So, nothing new that's really
changing at this point. >> Not really. Other questions that we still have outstanding are the well the regional dispatch is something that >> I think Don was emailing Bruno about um >> well you can put in worst case if their
costs don't go up we're still at the >> 125 >> 125 right >> y >> and even though they talked about a fourth town that won't be this year to help us right and then the that one there. What's the
bottom? Is that the trash or is that the uh this >> one right here? >> 349. Is that ambulance or is that >> That's the ambulance. >> Okay. >> Yep, that's the ambulance. >> 3%. That's in the contract. So, it's a good number. >> So, this was So, right now it's showing
around 28. Um, I think when I plugged the coal into the salaries there, it was it added around $8,000 $9,000 to that >> into just those employees covered by that
>> by these. Yeah. The the up top. >> So that gets us. >> So that's 37, >> right? I mean, that's a 1% increase, which is pretty good compared to the fact that you had Does that cover the is the county retirement in that part there
or no? >> Yep. >> Wow. County retirement is >> Well, must have been there must have been some Oh, well, maybe it's not. >> The big drop was the testing. Obviously, we saved quite a bit on that number. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Well, county retirement is not in there. That's a separate item. >> Okay. Yeah. It doesn't include health the health insurance, >> but a 1% increase in that part of the budget is not bad. >> No, that's good. >> Yeah, >> we might be able to even
>> if you added in the 8,000 for the salary part, that's still, you know, now you're in the one 1 something%. >> And we may >> and the potential for saving that line item there as well as you said, Don, >> we may be able to take, you know, I I'll
give a call tomorrow. Yep. >> Or maybe there's a role in the shared organization that could be shifted around. >> All right. So the nonp part of this you mentioned kind of retirement is in a separate part of the spreadsheet. >> That's that's part of the overall
budget. >> Right. So, next week we'll have some of the bigger numbers. You've got we don't have police coming in. That's the following week. Fire. I don't expect much other than just the cola, I would think.
>> Um I haven't heard of any capital things. Dax already, things like that. We've already, >> you know, I think they were cognizant of the fact, look, we had a big ask for the building. we'll be able to hold off on anything until later. Yeah,
>> here's what I me share this. >> Mark was talking about some capital needs though. This is based off this spreadsheet and previous requests. >> So, we had the front loader request. Mhm.
>> I I don't I don't know if that number is good or not yet. >> Yeah, because that was the that was the discounted price at last year's town meeting, right? Yeah. >> Police cruiser. And then on the capital plan for the for the district, I'm not sure if they're asking for these, but in fiscal year 27, there was 35,000 for
flooring classrooms at Green Meadows, there was floor in the restrooms at 35,000. There was Green Meadows transfer switch for 150,000. And then I wasn't sure if we were going to ask money for these types of things like the like the flooring if we needed additional money for the flooring
>> or if there were light upgrades. U one of the things to keep in mind is the utility upgrades for lightning go away. Um >> well I thought we were going to try and take care of the exterior lighting right now per the library request things like that. Are these different exterior lights?
>> Um I'm sorry that should say interior lights. >> Okay. All right. See what what I don't understand is they like it says Green Metals Flooring, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. In their budget, their FY27 budget, they put $55,000
for maintenance of building for Green Meadows. >> Mhm. >> I'd like to know what that 55,000 >> I know last year we went through the kitchen floor. Was that done already or they talked about it getting done, Brian? There was something in that
kitchen part. >> They talked about upgrading these the >> locks and stuff on the classroom doors and going to a unified key system. >> But I mean they're not >> the entrance as well. >> They're not doing that as they're not putting that as a capital thing. They're
putting it in the budget. >> So is that 55,000 there just as the year goes on something needs to be done and cuz they broke it. I asked them to break it out. So they got >> or is that's the salaries maintenance of building salaries but >> well again it's over the number like you
say it becomes their >> yeah their number >> I know but they're not putting in like I said they're not putting in his capital they're not putting in as a capital thing they're putting in is they got each building they're putting in mile trees on the mount stony hill soul road >> there you go
>> I don't know if they're going to fix any of those or if it's >> No it's just something you remember the classroom thing it was until you mentioned the number and all a sudden somebody 35 much higher or is that like a miracle expense? >> I think that was I think that at that time I think
>> he had the availability there was a used or you had a good deal to get one that's probably passed by. So it's probably more like Tyler has00. >> Well, we also had the option >> I thought it was like maybe I'm wrong. I thought it was 275. No one no 175. Okay.
All right. I'm sorry. Yeah. or there was another one for round two as well. >> Okay. >> But this is where we also have the ability to buy it out of chapter 90 money >> which because of course >> you can split or you could you get creative, right? You can take >> No, no. He he could buy the whole thing because we
>> remember we had the money appropriated for our part of the South Road Bridge and then the state agreed to pay the overage. >> So that freed the money out of his capital construction number. >> Yeah. because they would remember they were given 500, they went,
>> you know, it's one of those things like look, if you're allowed to do it, >> do it. >> And we had a pretty good between the fair share and that other program. We had a pretty good year from the state for almost a million dollars, wasn't
>> it? Isn't he talking about doing a a parking lot this year? >> Again, that comes out of town money. You can't use that for Chapter 90 project. Well, he told me he heard from another town how they did it. They named the parking lot a street
>> Davenport way or something like that. Now they can use chapter 94. >> Now I'm more interested. >> I guess you could lay it out as a stream. >> No, he said it's like a Trump thing. If you name it after me, I'll give you I'll give you the money.
>> Yeah. >> So that was kind of amusing. I don't think that would fly really. Um, but I think that's something, you know, I don't know what other requests Mark I mean there was a truck that was sort of pickup truck that was
climbing in miles, wasn't it? Whether it was his or one of the other ones and then the cruiser thing and that really needs I think a sit down discussion with the chief where we're going cruiser usage. We did
see some pretty high mileage on a couple of them. >> I think we definitely need to do one. I think it was it was a talk of doing a cruiser, SUV or a truck. Truck is more expensive, I think. >> Right. >> SUV would probably be more. >> And do we need a truck? I I'm
Are we getting a truck just because other towns have a truck? >> Yeah. We don't have any light. >> We're getting an SUV which is four-wheel drive capabilities and can pretty much go anywhere that a truck can go. >> And you can put a person in the back. >> Exactly.
>> Now, if you got to get a truck, it's got to be a crew cab. >> Yeah. >> A cage crew cab, >> right? >> And then you got >> I don't know. And still not as much. And you got exposed stuff in the back. You're getting a cover and like what's the point? >> Yes. Um, I mean, the chief did talk
about in our state of the union discussion, I guess, that the parks director and the chief had been discussing perhaps a hand down to one of the cruisers to parks and I would throw it out there if I was going to hand down one of the cruisers,
I would hand it down. Exactly. Right. Because that thing >> has seen it days. >> It's got to be But it can't necessarily be handed down, right? It's got to be >> No, I see. >> No, >> I wouldn't say it's handed down. I mean, the acco is under the police department.
>> Okay. >> Our budget's there as well. It just be >> basically ted over to a Shelly instead. And it's better. >> We're seeing some pretty bad repair costs for that that one we're using now. >> And it's got a cage back. It's already ready for that operation,
you know, right? >> Take the lights off basically and that's it. throw a couple of coyotes in the back there and you're all set. >> I'll let that go. All right. Anyhow, so if there was going to be that's a discussion we can have with the chief on the 20
No, he's coming in not the 23rd, the week after, right? >> Week after. >> Yeah. >> So, next week we have the COA which um I was on their meeting when the board approved the budget and it was nothing
other than what you expect. They'd like to hear the cola. And other than that, building utilities might go up a bit because everybody is, >> right? Uh let's see. And then we have fire, which again, I don't anticipate
much. Highway we just discussed, which is a question of what Mark's capital needs are. Basically, the rest is just >> all the contract stuff. >> Um actually, back to Mark's budget. So,
right now he's down to three people. Are we advertising for the fourth or not? >> Um, there is an advertisement out. >> Okay. >> You talked about potentially having somebody in mind >> and we don't know. I mean, it could be
>> Well, we talked Tad because he's retired, >> right? >> About >> highway >> volunteering. >> Highway worker. Okay. Well, you're here every week. I mean, you know, get you out of the house during the day.
>> Um, >> driving around plowing roads. Is that what you're talking about? >> A mower >> or more? No. Digging ditches, stuff like that. >> Zero turn. >> Here's an excavator. >> You just hit me with that. Actually, not saying no to that, but a
70-y old guy out mowing your freaking lawns. Well, you mow your lawn, you know. Hey. All right. Anyhow, um I'm trying to think going forward. Yeah, I think the 75% 90% of our attention going forward
is obviously town meeting and budget at this point. I have not heard of any citizen warrant articles coming forward. >> No, there was something, wasn't there? What was that one, Brian? There was talk
about amendments to the solar bylaw, >> right? >> I don't know if that's going forward or not. I haven't heard. Last I knew there >> there there may have been a thought to bring it to the special town meeting, but >> to fall in the fall. >> Okay. >> I don't know. That's
>> Have we heard anything else? That >> and I don't I know planning was talking about something. Was it clean up on something? Yeah, planning is not Joanne told me that planning is not going to have something ready. No. >> Okay. Now, the numbering thing does not
need to go to town meeting in my or sorry, the formatting thing does not need to go back to town meeting. >> Formatting does not. Right. >> Right. That's just ease of use. >> Right. Um and we're aware of the land trust with two, three, four things, whatever's
needed to clean up North Road plus the uh the green property. >> Yep. I know there was talk and I think you mentioned that Rick was talking about maybe the group getting together for Cumberland, but I think I mentioned before I have a
lot of people that ask me how come we can't put a business there. I'm sorry that's nothing to do with the town. Talk to the realtor. If you can buy it, great. But the building I think at this point the building's you know
right off at this point but >> it is a footprint that was approved. So that part's good. >> Um somebody said why can't you put houses there? Okay. But you have a commercial on one side and commercial on the other side.
It's you know it's housing on the other side but it really kind of stand on its own on that side. Does that have a activity use limitation on it? >> Not from the state. >> Not from the state. >> No, they when they wrote off the
>> Gosh, Don, that's got to be It's been 40 years now. They declared it clear clean. >> Okay. Cuz sometimes >> And I had heard that Bob's was declared clean, too, which would be a tremendous relief to him, I'm sure. >> Yeah. M you know
>> other than that I know planning I believe is uh they're going to be having another meeting on the proposed use for the I can't remember what they want to call the greenhouse if you will building where they've been exploring I think
septic issues septic plant issues and um use of the drive >> traffic >> traffic issues But speaking as one where my wife and I go to Snap Fitness in the morning, anything that relieves that traffic, that Dunkin Donut traffic in the
morning, that line coming out on Allen Street, it's as bad as the North Road pickup line for Green Meadows. That I will say has gotten a little better, but that's like saying the boil got smaller. Anything from members?
No, we got we got >> Oh. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. >> Brian, you want to keep working here? >> I would like to keep working here. >> All right, let's keep them on. Anybody who disagree. >> Brian, so we have a opportunity to
discuss uh renewing Brian's contract. We really appreciated admin here the two plus years. And Brian wants to just quickly summarize. Uh oh. Paragraph four. We just told advisory for crying out loud.
Everything's just that we can discuss everything. >> Okay. So then what would you summarize as the changes? I I appreciate your your table there. I mean it shows that yeah there's a wide range. >> Whatever >> you're right you're right in there.
>> Everybody else does work for you. You take credit for it. >> Huh. >> I didn't have to do this. This is all This was all set for me. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Where'd you get it from? >> My colleague in in Long Meadow
>> when it was a go-getter. Yeah. >> Oh, >> probably should have put a credit here, but >> I said you said it in the email. >> I did put it in the Thank you. >> All right. So, uh, paragraph two. Obviously, you want to stay on for three years. We're good with that. Thank you.
>> I'm not retiring yet. >> All right. So paragraph 4, you talked about 333. We did just talk to advise about 2 and 1/2. Would you consider 2 and 1 half 33? >> Possibly. >> Okay. Leave of abs. >> Yes or no? >> Well, it depends about what we talk
about on the next page. >> All right. So vacation you currently get how much? >> 15. >> And you want to bump it to 20. >> It seems to be well but par for the course of my colleagues. Yeah. >> All right. So, and you're fine with 20
each year of the three years. >> Yep. >> Not a growth thing. Just 20 right now. And then in three years we talk again basically. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Sick day, no change. You want to have a buyback option like the chief >> basically the other superintendent if
you will. Goodness. Okay. Makes sense. >> I got no objection to that. >> All right. >> No change in personal days. Nope. Okay. Deeper deeper deep. >> Well, that's Isn't there something in
there already about that? >> Paragraph A. >> Yeah, I think so. >> Um, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, it says if it's budgeted for, then we could do it. >> Well, you don't have a there isn't a TA expense line separately. Oh, maybe we
should have that instead. Although we barely touch our expenses like >> and I want the red the red I want Shel's car too. I add that in. >> But if you put it on if you if you put it on a credit card >> Yep. >> Doesn't it come out where does that get
paid out of >> wherever we direct it to? >> So it could come out from whatever account we >> whatever account we submit the invoices for. >> All right. >> So could we just put that to selected expenses? Well, we'll say no to AP. You can have all the miles we built up on
the credit card. No, it's not. >> Perfect. >> Must get something. What'd you get? A Capital One card. >> I don't know. >> I hate to say it, but it's the same as Bob got. >> Actually should look into that. We might get something. I mean, if you get
whatever. Um, I'm fine with eight. Nine. You know, I'm fine with it. I just don't know how you write it up. >> Okay. >> That's a little different than the sports events or something like that. Yeah. So, the intent here is I'll give you I'll give this past fall to my son
plays high school sports and there were like four that I would have loved to go to except you know I won't I have a job and it >> and a commitment here. So, um he's going to get to schedule in whenever it starts September. So, I would know September,
October, November when those conflicts might be. So, if I could be excused from a meeting or we could reschedule meeting that would be awesome. Okay. >> It'll be for the first two years because he's going to be a junior next year. >> Or else you put both you put both
languages in there. Excuse and or rescheduled. >> Yeah. >> I would say only because you're talking Monday. I would say select board meetings only. Town meeting would not be >> I would come to town meeting. >> No, I know that but I'm just saying you know that would be one. Okay.
>> I would definitely come to town meeting. >> Maybe. Yeah. not to include town meetings. >> You just got to word it a little bit differently. >> Yeah. >> You don't get health insurance from the town, which is a big savings. >> I don't. That's That's helpful. The town
of a town, city of Agawan pays for it. >> Mhm. >> And they can keep paying for it. >> We'll go with that. We'll go with that. Okay. Dian J and 9 M. They both talk about they both refer to
>> meetings. >> Yeah, both they both refer to meetings. So, one of those should probably go. >> Okay. >> Well, you're saying you're going to have a schedule. It's not like you're telling us the day before. I know the schedule for the season, >> right? >> I'm telling you October 12th, November 3rd, these are home games I'd like to go
to. >> Yeah. >> And we could either change the meeting or just say don't come. >> Right. >> And we were pretty flexible like, okay, we'll make it Tuesday that week. Yeah. something like that. >> Yeah. >> Are there Tuesday games too or >> not?
>> Not back to back, right? >> They don't play back to back. >> Okay. >> Twice a week. >> Probably our first option would be like especially if it's a busy time of year, move the day. >> Yeah. And and I mean they start the schedule's released August, you know, since the start of school. It's probably
August that we'll know the schedule. >> Okay. >> For the playoffs. >> All right. So if we're if we're good with 8 9 five and 5 A and B. So you're okay with 2 and a half for 27? >> Sure. >> How the board feel about that?
>> Yeah, that's fine. I'm good with that. >> Okay. I think >> Are you good with 2% for 29? >> No. >> Okay. Just I thought I'd throw it out there. >> I don't favor that if you give me a step. >> Wait a minute. All right. Two and a half. 33.
>> Okay. >> All right. >> All right. >> Write it up. >> And yes, the 5 A, B, C, D, whatever the >> B, I have to say. I think you were pretty reasonable. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I think you've done a wonderful job. You really >> I mean, we moved him up fast to make
sure he was equivalent with the >> his peers. Y and >> yes, as Don suggested, you can have Shel's car if you want. >> Perfect. >> Paint it. Oh, you want the flames and everything? >> You want a wrapped?
>> I think you want a working engine first. Okay. All right. So, there's that. Uh, we're down to member reports. Uh, the So, quickly, next week is again mostly a a budget meeting week. School COA mark
fire. >> Yep. >> I thought there was something else on here. Oh, and park wreck. So >> library can't come right >> or library asked for a different date. >> Right. So Brian put out the memorandum of understanding draft to both parks and library. I believe they both had
opportunities at a recent meeting to discuss them. We've heard both back from both come to a meeting and have a conversation. Uh Park suggested next meeting 23rd. So,
I guess I would uh you know, let's get them in and out and just I don't anticipate the first thing because of a scheduling conflict we told COA could be in first. I don't anticipate that being more than 10 15 minutes. >> Yeah.
>> And if we could put parks after that and then just start the private the school right if they're going to show up. Yeah. Going to mean both. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> John and Doug come from a distance. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then just work out uh Ed Mark.
>> Yep. >> Lauren's on. She's listening. >> What did she say? Did she actually message something? >> No. I just >> Nothing in Okay. All right. Sure. All right. Great. Uh member reports.
uh old townhouse planning old townhouse committee is going to meet on Wednesday of next week. We're scheduling a Wednesday of next week. Last week we toured the uh the old building and we were joined by a real estate developer
and uh two demolition experts. >> Wow. From the army >> and the facilities manager and the inspector building commissioner. >> Mhm. So quite a few of us were there, but it was a good it was a good >> It's an old building with a lot of
problems. >> All right. So you're going to have a scheduled opportunity for the public >> public I think on Wednesday we'll we'll talk about scheduling some public input meetings. >> Mhm. >> And maybe do a survey online. We have one of our members I think is pretty
good with the things on social media type things. So, >> okay. >> Um, I don't huge report, but I'm going to stem off of Brian's email that the um I reported the um Brian Paxton that said we were going to get some air quality
sensors and saw Brian's email that those are in. Y >> um just have to determine where those I believe we have two of them and where those to be installed. I know Ryan had a recommendation that is the senior center I think it was in great meadows was it? Yeah, I was thinking where are our most
vulner vulnerable populations, >> right? >> Speaking of that, did we resolve what was it? We wanted to buy a fourth AED for this building, was it? Or >> um they they have been ordered. >> Okay. >> Um we'll have we'll have one so we'll
have one in each section here. One in >> only three. >> One in the gym, one in the library, one in uh >> the town hall part of the building. What what do the what what do the air sensors monitor? >> Um >> I feel like it it's
>> particular matter is the >> I was going to say air quality, but that's not really going to do too too much for you. Um they're called purple. I think >> CO2 must be CO2, right? Must be ozone levels.
Reticulate matter pollen. Does it do pollen? Does it do >> Riculate matter are capable of being deployed to measure particulate matter 2.5 as well as provide an air quality index score
>> visit purple air >> yeah air quality specifically focusing particular matter which includes fine dust, smoke and pollution particles utilizing laser particle counters. These sensors detect particles in six ranges and basically tells you the size range.
>> So, so, so it's it's uh >> fine dust, smoke, and pollution particles. >> Okay. So, it it doesn't it doesn't monitor like pesticide drift. >> Doesn't seem like that. No, >> this is a >> So, where is the other? Sorry. The zone
one AED is going to be where at the entrance or in the cafeteria? >> The AED is already here. It's at the entrance. All right. I'm just thinking, you know, should there be one in the cafeterium where you have like potentially a large meeting? How much they go for? What was
it? 2,000 each or something? >> Um, yeah, it was somewhere two two to four is ringing a bell. >> I don't know. It's tough to find more money, but I mean, you put it where you put it in the library cuz that's where a population. You put it in the gym cuz that's where they are.
>> Yeah. >> Very much where you could have 200 people all of a sudden. Now we got to run back out to the entrance and get it. >> Can't you move it when we have a town meeting? >> It's on the wall, isn't it? >> Okay. And we're going to have I mean I mean >> it's on the wall. I mean presumably have
one in each cruiser. >> It's outside. But yeah, >> this is uh this is interesting. >> So there's there's sensors all around us already. >> Mson has a bunch I believe everywhere.
I think they purchase them on their own from what they said. >> 24. Was that on the chimney? >> Is that a current number? >> Yep. >> That red look good, right? >> No. >> What is this? >> Particular matter number.
>> Particular matter. So once we've installed you'll be able to go online and residents can go online and look at Hamlet and they can see real time data from these. So obviously power that was the prerequisite right they needed power and Wi-Fi access in order to be able to
set them up which great meadows and the senior center both has. >> Okay. So you can go on your phone and get air quality index. Is it is this like that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But we actually have we'll actually have sensors at two locations in town that you'll be able to go online and see.
>> How much are they cost? >> You didn't say they were part of a grant. >> Yeah, I think they were. >> So, >> a free deal to you. >> Yeah, free. >> Free to >> free us. Yes, there's no cost besides a little bit of electricity. >> It's interesting.
>> Great. Right. Brian, >> what do you have? Brian, >> notification of first round fair. F A I R Hen Mill Road over Scantic River. >> As you know, we've been discussing this bridge for years.
>> All right, I'm kidding. We have never discussed this bridge, but they're going to fix it. >> Formerly known as the Municipal Rapid Repair and Replacement Program, Bridge in your community has been selected for the first round of this program. MASTA will design, procure, and administer the construction of this work
at no cost to you. It is not a bridge replacement program. It is a bridge repair program. >> No cost to us. >> No cost to you. >> So, this is like the mass singer. We didn't even know this bridge was competing. >> Yeah. >> I talked to Mark. This bridge isn't even
have a hint of a problem with it. >> They're going to repair it. That's >> But yeah, but they won't. But >> Steve Tyler has been applying to the fair program on behalf of the main street bridge which really needs something. >> Well, let me pick a different bridge for you.
>> Maybeong with the Rockadundy Bridge. We can fix it and then move it. >> Yeah, we'll move it to Main Street. >> Okay. >> Um, >> thank you. >> Anyways, that's good news. >> Right. >> Not in our lifetime. It's not
>> good money is good money. Look at Look at how long it's taking to do the other stuff. >> They're doing it this year, they said. >> Yeah, >> it's already done, actually. >> Did it say this year? >> Hang on. I got a dollar. >> Does it say they're doing it this year? >> Yeah. >> What does it say? >> The project will be done this year.
>> Yeah, I thought I thought so. >> I'll bet you those cookies right there. >> Yeah, it's easy to No, you're probably right. Since there's nothing wrong with it, it'll be easy to get. >> I got a label. They're going to advertise >> advertise for construction this year.
>> Oh, advertise for construction this year. >> Yeah. >> So, I did ask where we stood on the South Bridgewood Mark and they're going out to bid this year. >> They're going out to bid this year. Okay. >> And that's actually has serious that one actually has work to be done. >> Yeah. Yeah. That >> that'll actually be
we're advertising that now, >> right? >> Um so that'll be going out. It might that one is what other correspond to hear the old ones. >> You want to hear the old sure every >> Okay. What's your report? >> Uh fire department building committee.
They have a signed agreement with the OPM. Um they have a fee proposal from Sicachio and Associates um that they are going through that they reviewed um and I am
uh reached out to Rose about or whoever it's going to be um uh to work on the contract that the SLboard will have to review and move forward with in terms of the design.
Brian, we talked before about the generator at the old town. We were running a cost on moving it here. Do you know if Herb's had any luck with that? >> I don't know if I I've not heard that. >> All right. >> I've not seen anything. >> Thinking about during a couple of events we've had and knowing that the old
generator was for pretty much lights, no heat. I mean, it's inside the boil room. It can It's not a huge unit. And now we got the other one just sitting there at the old town hall
and we know how easy it is to put them in. It's less than a year tops. Right, Don? >> I'm going to put you in charge of that project, Don, because you love generators. >> I love generators. I love I love dealing with incompetence.
>> If anybody knows this kilowatts, it's you. >> Which reminds me about Rose. What are we going to do about her? I talked to Jesse um over there and you know think he said you're not the only town we have East Law Meadow we have several other communities so we have a staff you know
we've had probably I don't know you have back in the day you might have been back in the Bruce Bruce Clark day or Joe Jennings >> Joe Jennings >> remember Joe yeah >> bow tie every time then Bruce then we went to authority Dave Martell >> and we had we had a long time
>> we had we had Ed Koulie for the uh >> really >> we had Ed Koulie for these school committee negotiations >> way back when. >> Yeah. >> But I mean they have a staff, you know, municipal people. So Rose has been here a while, but we have Mike Snder before
him. We had Mike Callen before he got appointed to the bench. Now he's Judge Gallen. >> Ted, so you know that's our town attorney, a town council. >> Dy Wallace member. >> So she's kind of stepping away from town. >> Hey people, you know, should we
>> people retire? Should we should we go out to bid or who else who's out there? >> I don't know. I talked to a couple of towns and like we are we have such a cheap rate compared to other communities. If you went to KP >> Oh yeah, they're expensive.
>> And some town did I mean their closest branch is Worcester for crying a lot. You're not getting any personal service from them. They're just big that's all. I mean, but they're billing at how much an hour? Probably get a parallegal for 450 and
you get the actual lawyer for for seven or eight. >> Yeah. Yep. I will say one thing. We've been very lucky and I made this point before Brian having a law degree has really helped because it won't say it eliminates the easy questions,
>> but it's a nice gate gateway to going to stuff. You say no sign that I'm not sure about it yet. >> Two things to figure out. Holland contract. We're talking about that. Transfer station regional dispatch. Can you figure that out?
>> Um and Mike's extensive cable agreement with Charter. >> They have any I thought we see an email every week they're dropping a channel. Was there anything left? >> No. >> We got Well, we lost the Spanish channels, but then we got back >> bueno white house. >> All right. And then
>> um Eric and I reviewed the uh and Herb reviewed the the camera proposals um and we're trying to figure out feel our way through those cuz what we put out for the scope of work was the older generation cameras. So we might have we might be beneficial to go out with the
newer generation cameras for for the >> Are we talking for the meeting rooms or you're talking for monitoring? >> For the for the monitoring for the the building security here. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> might be worthwhile to to spec those out instead. >> Um because I think you said there's like what about five years like five years of
support left for the generation >> the lowest the lowest bid the the um NVR the version five is out of support at the end of the year. >> Oh this year I think it's I think it was this year. The other one has no it's it's new and it's and it's it's got much
more storage capa capabilities and like the I believe it was like Valley they put they put really high-end cameras in 10 outdoor cameras got like 24 megapixels and the other ones the cheaper quote was like 3 megapixel cameras throughout the their proposal
like those are much cheaper kind of and I call it the budget friendly they gave us like the budget friendly quote where Valley gave us like the the creme dollar creme but maybe if there's a few areas where maybe we can say Hey, we don't need a 24 megapixel or a 12 megapixel here. Can we go maybe three in this area and this area? But outside where you
might want to see some of these license plates >> all across the you know things like that. You put the expensive one there and they might and those cameras those they're expensive cameras. So >> now is there like an option night vision also on stuff like that? >> Usually they usually outdoor ones and new ones usually the newer modern
cameras have them and I believe they were in the proposal but they have infrared built in. >> Um so more to come on that. Sorry about that. And there's still is there still a possibility like Tony had said that he would try and get cameras in his
budget for here >> and I know he's still working but there >> back to the camera thing and we talked before about the AV setup. >> Yeah. >> It is unfortunate that the Waspman proposal is only one room and the server if you will. >> Yeah.
>> So should we go back out and look for >> We can we I mean we could go back >> with Didn't you meet with a second group too? Yeah. >> We can go back and have a conversation about >> maybe the quality of what they're doing. It just seemed like >> I thought if that included the
cafeterium and three meeting rooms that was a decent price. I did not realize it was because we discussed that with him when he was standing here. Yeah. >> He went and looked at all the rooms. So why wouldn't he quote the whole thing? >> Right. >> I'm sorry, Ryan. You were right. It's
five years 2030. So they bought the version five. Basically the NVR they go out that's only good for five years and then it's completely out of support. No parts are available. Right. >> Oh wow. That's not >> probably want you still ask long. >> It's not great. I said a year. I'm sorry I misspoke. It was five. You were right. Sorry.
>> Yum. All right. You know >> Yeah. So I'll loop in on those because he knows way more than I do about cameras. >> And also the charter uh internet. Oh, I did ask for uh uh update on the uh
charter network enhancements >> that were supposed to go online year ago. >> Yes. >> Um I I've not heard back from them. >> What happened to the fiber build out in Warhammer? >> That's what he's kind of referring to. That police were supposed to It was
supposed to >> That was fiber. >> We were supposed to be >> fiber to the node. >> Fiber to the node. It's a hybrid hybrid multi- um well, excuse me, symmetrical multi- gigabyte, you know, speed um upload download speeds that we were promised essentially a year ago. And um
you know, Brian sent a nice email. I think it was just today. So, I don't anticipate you'll hear back too too soon, but because there's has been a lot of residents saying, "What's going on with the internet around town?" And you know, it's there's an email out there to say, "Hey, >> right,
>> where are we?" The explanation then the the explanation then was we've completed everything on the polls now we're just waiting for backend stuff >> or we have to make backend >> Mhm. >> upgrades or whatever that was. >> That was a while ago. >> It was a while ago. So
>> So we're hoping they come back and stay home next month. >> Yeah. But I'm assuming I'm if you have charter you haven't seen any increase. They're not just going to upgrade. They're probably going to send a new billing start tomorrow. Take a little sticky stuff in it. They took
that bastard. Oh, come on. >> Yeah, >> cuz I had here poached stem from East Medical. So, you can't say that. Good stuff. All right. So, uh I don't anything else. I did uh issue give you guys a copy of my
uh draft of the select select board report. So, if you want to just come back with some suggestions. Um, I've got the color pictures going on the other side. >> Okay. And there will be a DVD also in the town review board. Okay. >> Motion to all our No, it's all our all
our meetings on DVD. >> One second. >> We had a memo from the secretary commissioners. >> So, I'll entertain a motion. >> Second. >> Oh, here. No. I found my copy. Yes, here it is.
just ask uh you know how they're they're upgrading the road and old cemetery. >> Uh >> Mark has they had a conversation with Mark about doing some work at the entrance and they were just wanted to consent of the board.
>> Okay. >> All right. Sure. Fix the road. >> Okay. >> I'm happy that our departments are working well together with proper communication. >> All right. which we'll discuss next week. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. All in favor?
>> I. Thank you. Thank you all. So now rope. Hang on. Hang on.