All right, it is 5:30. I'd like to call the uh January 20th, 2026 meeting on the Hland Select Board and Board of Health to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. This meeting is being held at the new town hall, 85 Wham Road at 5:30. A little early because of things uh extra things to do. Um we are broadcasting
over Zoom and recording the meeting. Is there anyone else recording the meeting? Kristen Rivers from the Hampton Warham Times. Welcome Kristen. Notice how I changed that around the Hampton Wham Times. >> That's very nice. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Put that down. Thank you.
>> I can say it enough. It may happen. >> All right. So, the first thing on the agenda, we have minutes, right? Copious minutes, don't we? >> Copious. >> All right. Great. >> Very well. >> Where are they? Where are they? Where are they?
>> Did you guys get them? >> No. >> We got them email, but they're not printed here. >> All right. We're going to put those off the next week. >> We should wait for the next meeting. >> All right. So, we don't have copious. We have copious minutes but not to review. Fair enough. We have the copious
committee of the fire building review committee and welcome. >> So this project is getting a little teeth to it but I think we're at the point where we're getting close to some resolution. >> Yes. >> So share why you're here please.
>> So as you know we got an >> Can everybody Kristen can you just give us a heads up? Can you hear hear him? Okay. >> Yep. Hello. >> Aram. >> Okay. >> Thank you. All right. Good.
>> Sorry. >> No worries. So, as you guys are aware, we put out an RFP for the architect services >> for the project. Um, beginning in November, November 6th, we got back two respondents, two packages of Sakosio
Associates and KO and FedEx. Those were the two firms that responded. and through the evaluation in the rankings um SEO Associates came out top as the as our first choice for the architectural firm to go with for the project for the
that for the next phase next steps there. So that's why we're here tonight to bring the board up to speed and to do similar to what we did are doing with the OPM around to them
contract start negotiations get the fee for proposal and get that part moving but we need to get the architect on board to continue do what we're doing really start the project. >> Okay that's why we're here tonight. Brian, you've done, pardon me, some work
on this uh both with Mark and with town council. What's your status >> for the OPM? >> Yeah. >> Um we're just we have a follow-up meeting with Rose tomorrow morning at 9:00 now. >> Yep. >> Oh, hopefully that will hopefully we can address I think she has two lingering concerns.
>> Hopefully we can address those and get the >> That's on the OPM. >> That's on the OPM. Correct. >> You you said you you evaluated and ranked them. what what were the criteria that you used? >> I mean there's standard criteria as far
as experience, years in business, projects they've done in similar size, similar types. So we went through the whole matrix of of you know in the RF as far as how you rank them. It's pretty much a lot of it's boilerplate that you go out there make sure they have architects on staff, how many people on
staff and um Sosio came on top. They certainly have more experience in fire station additions, renovations, um the number of projects they've done, especially similar to us, what we're doing right here. So, they came out on
top. >> And where are they located? They are located and it is the same firm that did the initial design for the project that we same >> are they going to are they continue with
the design or is they going to are they can they change the design? Will they change the design? >> Got to get them on board and go over everything with them and bring them up to speed where we're at. So we're kind of at till we get the architect on board. So bringing the architect on
board does not limit our choices for design. It doesn't lock us into what Okay. I think it's based on conversations that have been happening. I think that's important. >> Correct. Correct. Yep. >> But they can't start any work until we actually have them hired. >> All right.
So hopefully we can do some kicking along >> and this is as you said no matter what the design may be and there are obviously some cons considerations for some modifications. >> Sure. >> You still would have the requirement for this position.
>> Absolutely >> right. Absolutely. >> Okay. >> There's no there's no money attached to this vote, right? I mean this recommendation >> hopefully we can do that a little quicker. Yes. We need to pick up the
pace. Y >> that's where we're at. 9:00 tomorrow morning process. >> What are Rose's concern? Um, we just got it
at 410. Says the designer selection fee and second the project schedule for purposes of determining when a contract phase is being extensive. kind of kind of in the weeds there, but >> okay. >> Well, in a motion to
>> that's where she goes >> to uh basically certify the film of Sakosio and Associates where the fire fire department design services as architect. It's subject to the negotiation of the
proper contract between administrator, building committee, input of town attorney, etc. to begin the the negotiation. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I thank you, gentlemen.
>> I'm sorry. I see I see a I'm sorry, sir. You're from where? >> I'm from the town. >> Which town? >> Which town? >> Okay. >> Um I just had a question. Um how many square feet are you
proposing? What's the proposed square footage? >> Proposed square footage. Yeah. You're going to you're going to do an addition and you're going to do a renovation. So, what's the total square footage that you >> There was a number presented at the town meeting,
>> but that number is in is being reconsidered possibly right now. So, I think all we can give you right now is the number that was presented at town meeting, >> which is around 12,500 was the >> that's not the addition. That's would that would be the finished size when you're done. Right. >> Yeah.
>> Right. Right. And we're not locked into the design that was proposed at town. Am I correct? >> Yeah. Until we have final architectural plans. Correct. We are not locked into
that. >> Right. But your committee hasn't um has not looked at any alternatives. Am I correct in saying that? >> You're not correct.
>> So talk to me. >> So we consider the alternatives, but we really can't say one way or another until we get folks on board that can help us put numbers alternatives. >> So you can't tell me what the alternatives are. >> Well, we we talked about making uh
rather pay addition off the side of it and um would that be less expensive and more more beneficial to the the fire department to the fire? >> Um but we don't we don't have the
answers to all that we need to get to help us with guns. >> I think I think John it's safe to say that things that weren't in place at the time they came to town meeting almost a getting ready for Tamilia a year ago
have changed. Obviously the the next door situation with the town hall has opened up other possibilities for them and they're evaluating that to see if there's a way it would affect the design hopefully in a positive direction. Is that a good summary Mark?
>> That's that's a very accurate summary but we need we need the experts on board now. >> Right. So because of the change in use next door, it opens up other possibilities for their design. >> Correct. In the market rates as well for
what we were, we started planning this in 23. >> Mhm. >> We're in 26 now. So some things that were quite feasible in 23 and four may not be as feasible now. So looking to see what alternatives that could be in
market, >> right? So it would be expeditious for the town to decide what they'd like to do with the old town hall. >> Exactly. >> And that would impact what your design is going to be.
>> That's been the conversation. I think if we were at the I think you were at the the building committee meeting last Thursday and that was part of the conversation. I was guess. >> So again, it's they are really intertwined. This committee is aware of it.
our board's aware of it and this can't be this has to be addressed right now. That's why we're meeting later after the public hearing to really done has done quite a bit of work on getting the mission statement together for the town hall repurposing committee basically
together. So they have a charge and the goal is to bring this forth to town meeting at the latest or at least long before that. So we have a good opportunity to explain to the public this is the recommendation going forward which then gives this committee
an opportunity to perhaps change their plan in a more a manner that would benefit the town financially honestly. So, you're going to get somebody on board, meaning the fire department, but you're not going to propose to them to have in the back of their mind.
>> Well, I think and I can't I can't speak for them, but I would think that >> you don't mind me speaking. >> No, I'm so sorry, Jim John. I was just I was trying to answer before you asked. Go ahead. So the question is is that you have one proposal that you've looked at now that we know
>> now if that moves are you going to talk to your architect about changing or altering his design again or are you going to just go with the same design and you going to tell him look at I want you to look at this also this proposed
scenario >> mark the the answer is yes totally both is there are things in play now that weren't in play when we designed this project. So again, we got we've got to have people on board that can actually take some additional ideas and look at
it and see if they're plausible. We have a project we're looking at now as some possible alternates to different designs. But again, we need people on board and regardless of what the final design is, we need the architect whether
it's left, right, up or down. I understand that you need an architect, but will you ask this architect to look at other design? >> Yes, absolutely. Very good. That's that's we want to hear from you guys. That's what I wanted to hear. Okay.
This may be similar and John, you were around that time with the Mitchell plan way back when when they were exploring is there a potential going to the south, but at that point they were constrained because obviously the building was in use and they may have an opportunity to take How long ago is that? Five years,
six years. >> Yeah. >> They may have the opportunity to grab some of those documents and use them >> again. >> Is there a possibility to go to the west >> again? >> Hang on. >> That's meaning towards that towards the highway
department highway garage. >> It's limited out here. You have a truck already that comes out. That's right. >> You have a garage in here already. >> I'm not I'm not going to debate your I'm just that's what I'm asking. >> So So the apparatus that's in the back
now. I understand what you're saying, but as it travels out, it's pulling out into the parking lot area where people are getting out of their vehicles, going into the fire emergency. >> Yeah, I understand. >> So, we're trying to get that cross traffic pattern down is a concern. Even
though we have to do a new building, we still have to have firefighters respond with some place and park someplace, right? >> So, that's that's another avenue. So, that's where the architect comes in to help us lay all this out. We have ideas and plans and things to make it better, maybe even less expensive, but we don't
know until we have someone build it. How much it's going to cost out? >> Okay. What more do you need from us? Anything? >> We'll get on it. Have one before you go about tomorrow. About >> tomorrow. Great. Come on. Thank you.
Thank you. >> All right. John, I didn't mean to cut you off. I was trying to I was anticipating an answer. That's fine. >> I know what you're saying on the record. You're sticking around for later, right? >> I am.
>> Okay. >> You want one? Do you want one before you go? All right. >> Chief, >> sir, how are you? >> Good. And you? >> Good. >> We're going to come forward. Okay. >> Please. Can't barely see you back there.
>> That was by design. >> With me. >> You can see that guy. Yeah. >> Yeah. From anywhere. Exactly. >> Uh so with the board's uh tenative approval, I wanted to bring forward tonight, Chad Martowski. This is an officer that I would like to bring on board as a reserve officer at the police
department. As you know, we've been down a few bodies on the reserve force for a period of time. Chad is a former Warham police officer where he served about 5 years. Prior to that, he was in Long for a couple of years. He's now a full-time firefighter in Southernington,
Connecticut. As of last uh this past February, so he only left service with Wilberham about this time last year in January. Um he is still currently certified on our post list which is very important obviously in Massachusetts. Uh very good resume. He comes highly
recommended. I've spoken to Chief Lennon in Wilberham. Again, highly recommended. Um he's provided all of the background information we need. His background check is uh fairly complete. We only have a couple more things to do in that regard.
>> Um and I would like to get him again with board's approval sworn in and approved. Brian, you have all the stuff, but we have nothing in our folder. >> Okay. Um >> I will have >> and I know we talked, you know, to try and bring this up. Typically might have
been a little later, but we had time on our >> on our agenda and it's important. You have a deficit. You have a great candidate. And you're where in town? >> I live on Martin Farms Road now. >> You want to stick around for the uh the uh electrical hearing for Bayer and Colony next?
>> Absolutely. You may be not you might have been notified as a butter. We have some of the Martin Farm people on the list >> for what? >> For the electrical upgrade for >> Yeah, that might be one. >> That goes to show how many people are coming >> right now. Well, yeah, it might be on.
>> Anyhow, yeah, >> we do have a full packet for you and for um for Lauren. >> All right. >> For the TA once >> Okay. >> Once we're good to go and chief >> and I discuss a couple of things about requirements that you'll have for him to complete. Exactly. And Chief and I
talked uh last week and Don, I totally understand your concern. Why is there a rush to this, >> but we have an opportunity for a candidate that's already already certified, already local, lives in town, and I hate to say it, with the deficit
and the der of candidates out there, I'd hate to see it snapped up by somebody else. We're talking we get perks like nobody else has. Really, >> it's so close to work. really better than Wilberham. I mean, half the gas. >> Oh, yeah. I know. >> So, uh, >> why'd you switch to fire?
>> So, my friends ask me the same question. So, I'm very passionate about law enforcement. Um, but as I'm 30 now, but I my priorities shifted. >> 30 years old. >> Yes. Um, I I live in town here. I would like to have kids and I was working. >> I know he looks 20. I know what you're
saying. >> Um, I would like to have kids. >> I I remember that one time. I think I I think I was 30 at one time. >> Again. >> Again. >> I' I'd like to have kids. So, working in law enforcement, not saying it's impossible, but >> I can't you can't deny the schedule of a
firefighter. I work two 24-hour shifts a week. >> I'd be a lot I'd be home more than my wife would with the kids, you know, >> and then working part-time as a a police officer. I'm doing everything I I wanted to do in life. >> Yeah. >> Now, that was >> except it's not like Southernington's exactly next door either. That's right.
>> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Well, I see any negatives. We did talk about there's a need for possibly a couple of tests and I think >> a motion to approve subject to all required certifications and tests would be in order. >> So move second. >> All in favor?
>> I hate to put you through the ringer like that. Jeez. >> Thank you very much. Good to meet you. >> Worham probably was an hour and a half I would think back in the day, right? >> I get up. I'm old. >> Not getting up. >> Let's see. 30. Another 30 on top of
that, >> gentlemen. Thank you. I appreciate it. >> All right. >> So, we just let we just take a look at the list. How many Martin Farm people were there? >> One of my co-workers lives on Martin Farm.
>> Number 20. >> Oh, he's way at the end. >> Way at the end. >> And those stripes, how many years? And where are those pipes? Right from >> Yeah. See, so there >> two. >> So that's the
>> people affected. Here's your road here. >> 28. >> And you might have just been >> So this is farms in between. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And you have this property here. All a sudden they're called in because they touch within 50 ft of a property.
>> Gotcha. Yeah. I'm the first I'm number 20. So they take it right on Martin Farms. I'm right. I'm the first house on your right. >> A little bit down. So, >> not bad. >> Great. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> We have a little bit of pause before
our posted public hearing. You >> want to go look for those minutes? No, I'm kidding. That's fine. >> I got a couple of things we could do. >> Chief, >> we don't hear anything, >> Mr. Chairman, I have a couple of things.
>> You have samples? >> I have a U license for the Fendino Maple LLC for manufacturing of frozen desserts and or mixed ice cream. >> And I will speak to that at the fall
fest. I think you're I had an opportunity to sample some of those along with the uh I think they did the maple hot dog. >> Yeah. Yeah. and I can recommend them. So, I'm in favor of making that motion. >> Second. >> Have your experience. >> All in favor? >> Yes. Okay. >> All in favor?
>> I. >> Okay. Likewise, I have a request for a permit to operate a mobile food truck by Fairle Maple LLC. >> And that was the one I experienced and I would say I'm all in favor of that. So, move. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. I. I have a permit to
operate seasonal food and service and operation for DNR Farms. >> Yes. And they do a great job. They do a good job. >> They came to the one we had at the old town hall that time. So second. >> All in favor?
>> And I have a disposal works installers permit for Gary Turnberg excavation. >> Okay. That I can't speak, but I'm happy to make a motion for that. You have an experience here. >> All in favor?
>> Okay, we'll sign these out of the way. >> I trust Yeah, I trust says it's good. Uh forward. >> Okay. Okay. We're find out if some good beyond
premises >> according to our email. >> Yes. >> Maybe that's the last meeting. >> I don't care. >> I think I can sign this. I think DNR does mostly veggies or they
do flowers too. Was it what? DNR does mostly veggie flowers too. They people also did. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, sir. >> So, Don Dick is going to bring with him for our meeting.
He throws a few numbers of fudge. Oh, no. I get balanced for this week. I'm kidding. For those listening, I am kidding. Do we have to sign? You're all good with
the other one, but no. Thanks. That's all. Okay. What else we got here? Who is here from the Here we go. Ruth, are you seeing anybody online? >> See them?
>> There's a gentleman in the back. >> It wasn't many. participants yet. >> There's a gentleman in the back corner. He's got a badge on. I don't know if he's National Guard. Good evening. Uh this is Patrick Sullivan. Uh I'm on the Zoom meeting. I
am also from National Grid. Just wanted to announce myself. >> That's fine. I'm looking for the people that are supposed to be here and I don't see anybody. Is there anybody from National Grid here? >> That's you two. Okay. Do you expect anybody else? got all the answers.
See, >> that doesn't sound good. Pretty clear. We wanted >> Nobody wants to sit in the front row. >> Yeah. School church. >> We do the flexies on all rows. Items out for delivery. It's yours. came on on the way to your house.
All right, I'll look out for those people and figure out what's going on. Oh, look at that. Okay. Make sure the heat off of here. >> Seen the bill? Yeah. >> Seen the bill? Yeah.
>> Oh, big building. I think we should move the left from the trailer to one of the vacant rooms. Your >> colleague disagrees. >> What? >> Your colleague disagrees.
>> Why? Because he likes the idea of the trailer. >> Ready to go, I guess. >> Well, where's it going to go? Where? >> Supposed to if it if it's got cats and stuff in there. >> Yeah. >> Right. It would go
doesn't >> I'm not sure this this shelter needs a permanent kitchen facilities. I don't think these are what equipment. Nope. That was one minute ago. Patrick, are
you going to speak on behalf of the uh the hearing? Uh I am ha I am happy to >> I'm looking for who wants to be the lead person on this is my first question. >> So uh I'm happy to introduce myself. Uh
I apologize I wasn't able to >> I'm just setting up right now. We got one minute to go. I'm just trying to get the order. Who wants to be the >> who wants to suffer the slings and arrows right now? Um,
I suppose I'll volunteer. They're agreeing. All right, couple seconds to go and we'll g this to order. All right, 6:00. This is the time and date for the public hearing concerning
the application by National Grid to basically do underground upgrades for the Bayberry Road and Colony Drive uh subdivision off of Summers Road in Hampton. We have before us
representatives of National Grid both in person and on Zoom. They're here to present their project and they will then answer any questions that the public has. I would ask you to if you raise your hand pretty informal but raise your
hand and identify yourself please so that our secretary can make a good record of this later. She knows a lot of people in town. She may not know you that's all. So first, uh, Pat, you want to give us an overview of the project
and then we have two representatives. Identify yourself, please, for Ruth. >> Ken Ken, >> okay. All right. >> All right. Uh, thank you. Um, my name is Patrick Sullivan. Uh, I apologies, unable to attend in person, but happy
to, uh, walk through the project with the team. or uh the wider group here. Um I am a program manager at National Grid. Um while I am not the program manager overseeing this project, I am very
familiar with similar uh projects of this type of scope and uh construction methods. Uh I oversee this type of work in southeast Massachusetts. um standing in place for a colleague
who's unable to attend in person. Uh this project uh was identified and written up and designed to replace the existing direct berry primary voltage cable uh that's serving
customer load within the neighborhood um Bayberry Road in Colony Drive. um due to the age and condition of the cable presently serving uh residential load. Um over the
past year, we've experienced approx approximately five cable outages that we've been able to identify as a result of the the cable itself. Um we drew up a project to replace this
cable. Um the plan is to replace this cable with a new cable in conduit system that will serve customer load. Uh the new cable in conduit system will be
installed. Um utilizing horizontal directional drilling as the primary construction method. Um we plan to install this new cable and conduit adjacent to our existing infrastructure.
Um the the plan would you know to start work in the coming weeks uh if not potentially sooner provided our civil construction vendor has availability. Um we estimate the project to last
approximately two to three weeks um where the new conduit conduit will be installed uh in associated subsurface structures. Um, from there, once the new conduit and
cable has been installed, we will then progress to deenergize the old cable and cut over to the new cable. Um, with the new cable, it's expected to
minimize, if not outright, eliminate all, you know, cable faults as a result of the condition of the cable. Uh, that's the driver of the project. Um, I guess I'll stop there and and uh
see if there are questions. >> Well, that's the overview. Um, one quick question. You've putting in a new cable underground adjacent to the old cable. The old cable has connection to each house. How do you get that connection to
the new cable? So, uh the new cable that we will be installing is uh strictly a primary voltage cable. Um and that primary voltage is the cable that runs from the green padmounted transformers
on property lines. So, it runs from padmounted transformer to transformer. behind those transformers or adjacent to typically there's a belowgrade uh we'll call it handhole where there is
a connection point from uh a customerowned secondary cable to our transformer. um that's where the the primary voltage, you know, at the transformer gets converted to a a lower voltage that we
use in our homes. Um that cable that runs from the transformer to everyone's individual home is not um being replaced. That is uh not uh a national gridowned uh you know piece of
equipment. Um, and it's not the piece of equipment that we are identifying as the cause of the recent cable failures. So, you're saying there's a handhold for each home or there's almost a bit of a spider thing where you have a handhole
that might have connections back to four or five adjacent homes. >> Yeah. So the handhole itself um typically is a um where typically where multiple homes will have their their
secondary service lateral uh terminate at and then that's where we will basically make connections to our transformer. And that's more or less the delineation of where our facilities stop and
customer-owned facilities start. Do you anticipate there's going to be an outage during this period? >> So what we'll typically do is we will install all of the new cable. We will test the new cable. We will perform uh a
couple different tests where we basically accept that it's built to our standards. Once that testing has occurred, we'll then bas will then coordinate with our customer outage group to find a date and time uh that
would work to perform the cut over where we'll deenergize the old and energize the new. Um and typically that process looks like will put a letter in the mail to every resident with a date and a time where
they can anticipate the power outage. Um, you know, it'll also include a rain date as a backup date should inclement weather, prevent our crews to, you know, be out there to to perform this cut over work. Um, I'm also happy to, you know,
hear feedback if customers if there's a general consensus uh that they don't want to perform a cut over at a certain date, certain time. Um, we're we're happy to hear that. But, uh, I I just we we know that the cable is deteriorating.
I just have concerns about delaying the work um given the the cable failures over the past uh past year. >> Yeah. So that answered the question one part, but I guess the next part I was looking at what's the duration you anticipated duration of the outage when
it does with like the cut off. Is it an hour, 30 minutes, 2 hours, 4 hours? >> Yeah, that's so I'm I'm I'm expecting uh that it would go quickly. Um an hour, hour and a half u maybe at most.
>> Okay. Per per station basically. No, it would be uh so typically it would be everyone losing power at the same time. Uh but it is entirely possible that uh this work
could be completed in the field with no customer interruption. uh depending on how our operations teams um plan to perform the work, it's it's possible that no outage is actually
experienced. >> Okay. Um so time frame obviously we're we're our concern as Eric said you know the the crossover time would be critical something might go wrong and it might be somebody might be out for two or three
hours we're looking coming into the season right now they're projecting below zero this weekend is this something that you're thinking is two or three months down the road is it and I'll I'll go to your people here that you know first off when do you think
you'd start the project and how I know we talked before about how long does it take to do the project? >> Yep. So, um I could start it as quickly as this week um if you know provided uh the selectman, you know, approve our
petition. Um with that in mind, you know, I'm thinking this could be addressed um at some point in midFebruary. Um, you know, with that in mind, I I I understand I live here in Massachusetts
as well. You know, it's cold where I live. Um, I can appreciate not wanting to lose power during these months. Um so you know I am uh you know I hear that concern and you know I'm happy to you
know hear you know if if there's there's consensus that you know residents don't want you know a planned power outage uh to cut over to the new cable you know we can certainly consider that and scheduling
the outage. Um now uh I I do want to mention the the planned outage itself. It would take place um we only schedule this type of work between the uh you know during you know the normal Monday
through Friday uh work week. Uh it would only occur between the hours of likely between 8:30 and and 1:30 at the latest. >> Okay. >> But that you know that's not the duration. That's just the timing of when that
outage would occur. >> Sure. Let the cable guy come into your house sometime between 10:00 and Tuesday. Sure. >> Yeah. >> Um, one thing that was mentioned, we had, as you were, we mentioned before, we had a brief meeting with some of your team at
the town hall a month ago or so, Bryant. And one thing I thought they talked about was the need to put a couple of above ground transformers to Brian, right? That were going to be new >> something. Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> So what what they were referring to were was uh switching modules. They are uh basically access points uh for our operations crews to get at cables um and allow them to operate the cables
in such a fashion where um they could you know deenergize a single cable but that wouldn't impact the customer uh in terms of an outage and it would give them the flexibility to change
configurations of the cables underground. Um, should you know an emergency occur, you know, someone's, you know, you know, working on a septic system, they have a mechanical digging uh back hoe out there and they dig into a a line
um that powers, you know, a number of transformers. It would allow uh a quick easy access for us to isolate a section that has failed for whatever reason um in re-energize
uh customers and pick those customers back up. >> So now reclosures. All right. Um >> yeah, non non-reclosing. >> All right. Okay. So, back to I guess our original question. If you said you were going to start this middle of February, you're
talking how long on the ground to do all the mold drilling before you do connection? >> Um, so I let me just clarify. Uh, what I said was, you know, we have the flexibility and the capability to start this week.
If we were to do >> whatever day you start on, how long? Yeah. So, um, you're going to see boots on the ground for approximately 2 to 3 weeks. Um, and they're it's not like they're going to be out in front of everyone's house for the entirety duration of that
2 to 3 weeks. >> They're going to be in sections of the neighborhood as they kind of work their way through. >> Um, they're going to be a day or two in front of one house and then, uh, the next day they're going to be three houses down. They'll be a day or two there. Next next day they're three
houses down, etc. Um, so that is more or less kind of what residents should expect. Um, they're going to they're all they're going to have multiple vehicles. Um, if necessary necessary, we'll have police details directing traffic um to
ensure you know, safe passage of residents. Um, you know, they'll there'll be signs, plenty of visual indications of of where the crew is um and where they're working. There'll be cones um you know identifying work zones and
whatnot um for the for the for the duration. >> I think some people have mentioned they've seen some markings on the road already uh sometimes on the snow if you will but uh it's good you're good you're prepping up. Um
>> Eric or Don do you have any questions? All right, Brian, >> the only the only question I had a follow-up was is how are you going to you mentioned kind of two scenarios. You mentioned a scheduled possible outage. There's going to be an outage or possibly the event that there might not be an outage. How do we how are you
going to identify and how soon into the project can you say, "Hey, this isn't going to affect anybody." And and I'm kind of curious why we don't know that now. Is it just the way things are underground, the way things are rooted? So it it's it's more or less uh due to the way uh the existing infrastructure
is set up. Um we we currently have a loop structure which has basically an express circuit to we'll call it to an open point. Um and then we have a cable running to each subsequent transformer.
Um, now I haven't spoken directly with the overhead operations teams that would be performing the cut over work, which is typically done out at the pole at the street um at the intersection of Bayberry and Summers. It's it's entirely
possible that they energize uh an entire section um that would pick up to that open point and then you know each transformer might only you know see a you know a 15minute outage. I I'd have
to talk to the overhead supervisor and walk through how we would plan to cut it over. I just haven't had that conversation at this time. >> It would be nice to get those details just this time of year being in the cold. Um, I know that's probably that would be my concern concern. Thank you.
>> All right. So, if there's nothing more from the board, I'm going to open up to some questions from our audience. Uh, hey, you probably can't see it. We have about 300 people here waiting to ask you questions. Sorry, Andrew. So, but, uh, let's start
with some residents first. >> Yes. >> Nancy Netherwood, Colony Drive. Um my question is uh being the fact that it will be winter when this occurs, will
there be a backup plan in the event that things do not go as planned as it a generator for the whole two streets because we don't want our pipes to freeze or anything else?
>> Yeah, certainly. Um, so I'll I'll I'll state first and foremost. Um, the cable we know is it it's in poor condition as it is right now. Um, and we can certainly defer this work uh to to
warmer months. It just, you know, extends that risk. Um, National Grid's policy, you know, in the past has not to been you to utilize uh generation in in kind of looking back at what I was mentioning earlier. uh the the the UR
the underground residential development as it's configured right now. It's in a it's in a loop scheme where we have two sets of cables going into the neighborhood that allows us uh the flexibility to switch cables around to
isolate failed sections um so that the outage you know potential outages are the durations are minimized. Um, with that in mind, the construction crew that we would tap to perform this
work, they're also, you know, the the crew that we would also tap to come out if there's an emergency cable failure to make repairs. So, they'd be on site if something were to happen, you know, during construction, you know, they'd be
right there to address um and start uh emergency repairs. >> It sounds like that's their contingency plan, >> uh Nancy, is to have the people on site that can handle the problem. So basically, you're telling me that
National Grid, if that does not occur, will pay for all damages done to the inside of our homes if the pipes burst as opposed to providing a gener like a generator. I know Ever uh Eversource
does provide generators to areas uh within their districts that are outside of major cities. obviously not a um not a a total failure within you know
within the state or the areas but for specific streets. So why won't National Grid offer that as well? >> We can certainly consider that. Um but you know in my time working at Eversource uh we
busted out the generators for large commercial and industrial customers um you know similar to national grid. They have plenty of underground distribution cables uh in
similar scenarios in uh configurations where they have looped cables and they can switch to isolate a faulted section to minimize customer outages. Um, you know, if they're if they're pulling in
generators, you know, there's probably due to the fact that there isn't a secondary backup cable that they can energize to pick up customers. Um, in the situation that we're looking at here on Bayberry, we
have two cables that we can rely on. um in situations where there's a single cable running into a neighborhood and say for example a cable fail, you know that a a section fails um at the front of the neighborhood, the
entirety of the neighborhood uh would be without power. So that's a little bit more of a scenario where a generator might be utilized um in in the situation in the configuration that we see within the
neighborhood. Now we have two sets of cables going into the neighborhood. So if a if if one of those cables fails, we'd be able to switch within at points switch within the neighborhood to isolate the failed section and make
repairs to that while minimizing the customer outage. >> Can also just clarify that we are adding a new cable. >> The existing ones are staying and being abandoned in place. Those can be re-energized if something were to happen with the new cables while they're being
tested and energized. >> So the old cables are turning into the backup system for later >> basically. >> No. So >> I'm saying they would be >> while they're new one is being energized. It's not >> right. But you're not removing them anyhow. So >> we wouldn't keep them active. They're not reliable. >> Okay.
>> As a backup, they are as good as they are today. >> Yeah. One thing I don't think I asked while you're here, there's no road crossing that's not being mowled as well. So I think it was said before back in November that there was no need for
cutting the road in any of this project. Correct. >> Um let me let me look at the drawing. Um I so it so the drawing does show a couple road crossings. Um the road crossings would likely incur, you know,
saw cutting uh the asphalt to uh identify, you know, existing utilities in the road. So it it would impact the road. >> We had that conversation though. We had our highway superintendent here at that time and I believe the people that were
at that meeting, Brian, did not indicate that there was going to be a need that they thought they would be doing the same thing they did, for instance, with our water project a year or so ago where they did directional drilling underneath the road following that cable.
>> Yeah. So, so that that certainly is something that we can do. Um but what I what I want to make sure is that there are existing utilities buried. Um we do need to identify those locations and only in scenarios where we we're
fully confident where we've identified all buried utilities um will we you know utilize that directional drill technique. >> Obviously this is not the great time of year to be doing any saw cutting and >> understood. Yeah.
>> Okay. I mean, I see one right at the entrance. Looks like on that map that at the intersection of Colony and Bay is the first cross right there. >> Right. So, all right. Certainly something to be concerned about. >> Yeah. And and I I do think that's
something that we can take a look at uh in the field, you know, with our uh civil um contracting crews to identify existing uh buried utilities um and more or less devise a strategy in
in a way that you know we're staying within our easement. Um but also uh looking to minimize impacts to you know paved roadway especially given the fact that you know we are in the winter months. >> Okay.
>> All right. Anybody else? >> Don I think this is time for your statement. That's all right. No thank I have this summer we had a couple hour outage which was supposed to be a couple
hours. Okay. This is in the summer. It wind up being 24 hours and we don't need that in the middle of the winter. I'm not saying that do work. I'm just saying you've got to design this thing so that that cannot happen.
Cannot be without a electrical for 24 hours. That's not going to work. The other thing is I do have transformer in my front yard and if I indicate by watching what the guys are going to do, they're going to cut there to go across the street which then wire goes up to the back across the other transformer. I
don't believe it follows the line all the way down from one surveyor is what they show. So I'd like to know if they're going to be digging up that. Um and are you going to change that transformer out while you're there? Because the transformers have been in
there 25, 30 years since they had to do it the last time they put them above ground. They used to be below ground and they brought them up. So are those transformers going to be replaced or we're going to wait till something else happens? If we're doing a new job, why aren't why is it all happening that way?
Back to my wife's question, if something happens and if it's out for 24 hours and if we have damage at a house due to the freezing or what is national going to pay for this? I did not hear an answer. >> Um, so as far as you know the outages
and the extended duration outages, um, I it's hard for me to kind of comment on that because everyone's situation is going to be unique. Um, so what I'd recommend is documenting, um, impacts to your homes, um, you know,
in a, you know, on paper, um, you know, with any sort of documentation you can develop, uh, in submitting claims. I, you know, because everyone's going to be different. I I don't, uh, you know, I can't say one way or the other. Um there's a team that's you know
responsible for uh assisting customers and residents uh who experience these sort of issues. Uh and you know I just can't speak to that. Um in terms of the transformers and them being replaced.
Uh there are approximately five transformers it looks like that we are have identified as needing to be replaced. um we won't be replacing all of them. Um with that in mind, those individual
transformers, um the customers that are served off of those uh would experience an outage during the transformer replacement and that would be identified on a letter that's mailed to every resident um who
would be affected by that uh with a date and time as to when they can anticipate that. All right. And so while that outage is going on, is there any anything to do with a resident? Obviously,
uh, a generator hookup because I don't know how long this generator swap would take. Is it a three-hour job, 4 hour job there? >> Yeah. So, uh, swapping out a padmounted transformer, uh, I wouldn't I wouldn't anticipate being without power really
longer than four hours. considerable time. What do you have for what do you have for a remedy for the homeowner at that point? >> Um, at this at this stage, you know, there's there's not much of a remedy. Um, we can
certainly explore all, you know, >> not to put you not to put you on the spot, but I think that's something we'd like to see an answer on or a suggestion on from you. >> Um, yeah, sure. Um, >> you said there's only four or five of them. You're not
>> talking uh renting a, you know, 20KW generator for five months here. So, >> it's something we can certainly consider. Yeah, >> I'm just wondering how much notice we're going to receive in terms of when you're
going to be doing this work, seeing if you might experience an outage of up to four hours or maybe longer in the middle of the winter. Um, all kinds of consequences. Maybe some of us work at home. um maybe some of us do other
things. Um so that that's one concern we have and the other concern is after the work is done what kind of um restoration there might be you know especially areas where there are boxes
boxes that may be removed may be replaced are they going to recede and um do that kind of restoration. So couple different questions there and I think let me just talk touch on the second one because that was mentioned before. The work that you're doing for
instance with the pad mounting transformers is most of that located in the town right away or is a lot of that on private property? So, um the transformers, um it appears based on the survey
drawings are are are on private property. Um but they're basically either on or uh within feet of property lines. Um, outside of that, uh, 99% of all of our
work is being done in the public right away, >> right? But I think as as Pat said, I mean, you're doing this transformer upgrade. You got a crew around it. Boom. It's in the corner. Maybe it's been nicely landscaped in the past or
whatever to to hide it. They're going to have necessarily they're going to have to do some work there. I mean, that's a given. Understandable. Do they remediate that afterwards? Do they come back and do a little replication of what it was before or they leave the homeowners and say,
"Well, it's gone. It's all yours now." >> Great question. >> Pat, go ahead. One of the questions is whether it's in the town's public right away or whether it's if it's not in town.
Are all of these areas going to be? >> Well, I think he was saying if his quick view is that most of the pad locations are on private property, far enough off the road. I mean, they would want to make sure it would be close enough to the road so if a car skidded off, you're
going to lose power for the subdivision. So that's a good give and take right there. You don't want that kind of protection. So but I think your first >> So go back to your first question. I and I understand that but you were saying that the transformer
change out could lead up to a 4hour uh block and that would sectionalize a group of homes for that transformer. Right. >> So that okay. So they'd be notified all of a sudden everybody from 10 Bay to 100
Bayberry on Tuesday of next week, we're swapping out the transformer. This could start at 10:00 and we hope to be done by two. Is that the kind of notice that you would anticipate giving out to people? >> Yes.
And I would think that, you know, if we had and not the day before, but if it was a week ahead of time, that would be a proper time for people to make plans at that point. I mean, we're all it's a bit of a balance. So, and Pat, is that kind of your question? >> That answers that question A, question
B. I'm still a little bit unsure. >> It sounds like that's going to be fleshed out a little more later. Right. >> So, so I'll I'm happy to kind of answer that question. So um but quickly to discuss the the outage of a transformer replacement. Um our standard procedure
is to provide minimum 10 business days notice um of upcoming uh power outage for this sort of maintenance work. So you you'll get a couple weeks of a you know lead time um there.
Well, to a spec to a specific date, not like, hey, sometimes after two weeks, we're going to be cutting the power. You're gonna say, "We're going to give you two weeks notice that on Thursday the 20th at such and such a time." That would be your notice. >> Correct.
>> A specific time. All right. That sounds Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That sounds reasonable. >> Okay. >> A date no sooner than 10 days out is is um what we'll we'll provide. And then we'll provide a rain date pro, you know, if weather's inclement, you know, crews
aren't out there, um, there'll be another date. >> All right. So, you're saying you're going to give at least that much notice of this date and a backup rain date. Okay. >> Exactly. >> When I mean I mean really 10 days.
We'll give you a specific date >> and you know if Okay, so we're going to get no less than 10 days notice, but are we going to know specifically when they're actually going to show up and do the work? >> Well, I think he's saying the 10day notice will be of a date and time, but
it would not be any less than 10 days noticed of that time. Not 10 days. After 10 days, you're going to see a truck show up sometime. It's not going to be that way. Right, Fran? I want to uh also point out I've got
notice already. They want to change the meters. Are they going to be upgrading the meters? Because there's no sense of having an interruption when they're hooking the new lines up and then have another interruption when they come to pull the meters. They're going to be
putting new meters. >> I actually didn't get a notice. Did you get a notice? >> Yeah, they're putting new smart meters in there. Usually meter swaps are very in my experience meter swaps are pretty quick. Yeah. Is that is that part of this? I mean, anything to do with >> So, um the smart meter roll out. Um I'll
tell you from my experience, I'm a National Grid customer. Uh I've had my meter swapped. I didn't lose power. Um some guy walked up. I bar I didn't even see him. I just got a notification on my Ring camera. Uh someone came out my driveway and then within five minutes he
was gone. um that that work is not associated to to any of the work that uh we're proposing now. >> Okay. Andrew, >> is your meter sign a bypass? Cuz the ones on this street do not.
So, you may not have seen an outage because there's a bypass in there, which National Grid does not allow, but other utilities do and that's always the outage on that. So, is there be able to have the smart program team out there on
the same exact day to change those meters while everybody's out there and this problem all in one shot? >> Um, that's a great question. Uh, one that I don't have an answer to, but I can certainly ask to coordinate that effort.
>> Next, she's she's been waiting. >> I'm sorry, Andrew. She's been waiting. Go ahead. Can you stand up, please? Oh, hello. >> I'm so sorry. He was be you you were behind. I didn't see your hand. Thanks, Reck. Serious 66 Colony Drive. >> I have happen to have benefit of having
one of those green transmission boxes in my yard which is on property. >> Um I choose to live in handed due to conservation and ensuring that our land is appropriate as such. So that is vitally important to me in living in
this community and ensuring that our land is still intact. Right. Um Mr. Sullivan, I understand that you are not the project engineer, but you are representing said project engineer here. Um so that in my impression is a lapse
in leadership here in this conversation. So I just wanted to put that up. National bridge would have the engineer here speaking on our behalf. Um finally speaking in my opinion we are notified of uh
electrical outages via our um national grid application. I do not open my mail, read my mail. Snail mail is beyond me at this point in my time. Okay. Mhm. >> Um some electronic communication, text
messaging. Let's get to the times because 10 days prior notice and mail is not appropriate for me. So, just wanted to state that. >> Um I'm I'm happy to provide my contact information um to the the town and have
them kind of disperse it to the group here. Um I can also, you know, read it out to you if you'd like, a pen and paper um so that you can reach out to me directly. I'm I'm happy to coordinate and communicate uh these outages as I learn
of them um for those residents who uh don't open their mail. >> Well, I think that just to your point, you know, if we had us as the interface, if there was a broadcast, whether through email, through text message, through whichever fax machine for you,
Fran, um you know, whatever way it can be. I think your point is that we should take advantage of every way to get the information out. >> Thank you. Yes. >> Exactly. So, um I would encourage everybody and we had talked about getting a signup sheet in the next feel free to email the selectman's office
which is selectman still selectman unfortunately we can't change it at hamdenmma.gov. Feel free to email us. Tell us you'd like to be put on the notification list and we will do that broadcast email and
text message thing through basically we have that we can do that through uh the service we pay for the 911 service to send out messages to you that hey we receive word such and such is going to be there by this date and you'll be notified. >> Thank you.
>> You think that's a good point? That's >> I I agree with you entirely. Okay. Multiple modalities of communication. >> Exactly. >> There's no bad way, right? Except TX. I think that's over. >> Um, no telegrams. Yeah.
>> Are we back to Fran? >> I'm sorry. Who was up? Anybody else? No, no offense. I'm just saying. Yes, sir. >> Hi, Sean Kelly. I live on the corner of Bay Hall. down the corner of my yard and down the
side my yard and uh national camps in my sidey yard this past summer and um so questions I have is um I'm looking outside my house my garage my
driveway is is artwork on the left side of my driveway and right side are they digging up our driveways I'm sure there's others in the neighborhood So that's one question. Are they taking out the driveways nowhere to run the line? Are they running underneath the driveways?
Second. >> Okay, let me just go. I think what he was saying before and correct me if I'm wrong. You two are the on the ground more on the ground people. It's mole directional mole drilling and should not be visible from the ground. Right. >> Correct.
>> That's right. >> Okay. where only where it enters and exit. They do need area to dig down at that point. >> So down by Summer's Road, you're saying at that point where it starts area. >> Yep. >> Right. >> Drill pits. So drill pits will be
needed. They're approximately 4T by, you know, maybe 5T. Uh that's where they'll position the directional drill machine. It's a track machine. um and they angle their drill bit uh to enter in at a
drill pit and then uh they land at a drill pit. It's basically an opening in the ground uh 30 call it 30 to 36 in at depth. Um that's the standard depth for this particular voltage cable. Um and that's where
basically the conduits are run. um the conduit itself. If if there is a driveway in between, you know, in that section, uh you you you should not experience um your driveway being cut up, you won't have a trench line across
your driveway. Um barring any any unforeseen uh below below grade conditions, um there should be no impacts to your driveway. Well, you would anticipate you're you're within less than a foot from the other cable.
>> So, you're not going to you're going to be parallel to the cable that's already under there, basically. Correct. >> Correct. >> So, you wouldn't expect that, oh my god, you're going to hit a boulder cuz the other one's already been there, unless it was just so unlucky that the boulder was 6 in from the cable they buried before. My concern, and we brought this
up before, I know you're saying the mole work, the directional drilling work is being done in the town right away. But we all have people that say, "Look, I put a sprinkler system and it's probably comes up close to the road near where the town right away is, how do we
protect against that type of interaction, damage?" >> So, that's a great question. um you know if if we plan to do the work um you know in the coming weeks you know most folks have their sprinkler systems you know
turned off the lines flushed um winterized etc. Um, so we won't know basically, you know, if if something were to happen, if damage were to, uh, take place. With that in mind, you know, come springtime, you know, folks are turning on their sprinkler systems, uh,
you know, putting water into their irrigation lines, um, and they find that, you know, they have a water leak, uh, and it's been, you know, we determined that, you know, the the the sprinkler system was broken during constru the construction portion of the
project. you know, we'll want you to immediately have it fixed. Save save save the receipt uh and come to our claims department and we'll settle settle that, you know, uh cost of repair for you. >> All right. This is a recorded Zoom
session, so you got >> Nope. It's >> I think No, I think that's that's Look, you're doing the work now. It's tough to figure out where they are, but if you're committing to if we cause the problem, you'll settle up with people afterwards. >> I think that's fair fair on your part.
Did you I'm sorry. I didn't know if I answered your second question. just didn't know if there were going to be any areas where they were going to be breaking ground from the top because this past summer, their version of fixing the sod and whatnot was taking the back, patting it down with it as you
watch them. Guy walks out, throws a couple hands, literally doesn't spray with the green stuff, whatnot, >> throws some seeds and walks away, throws a little hay down, and then anything guy had done gone. Right. >> Now, this is the whole right side of my
particular property, lower side, which drives the sun anyways, but heads towards Okay. And between a transformer and this giant metal door track that goes into the ground where they've been working a lot,
>> they dug up that whole path. >> I don't know if this would be something they will have to do that for. Also, in this particular area, is if you're doing this in the winter, anything you have to dig up from the top, you obviously can't fix the grass
under here. >> I'd like to know that somebody's actually going to come out when things thaw >> and actually do it right. >> It's a good question. Is there going to be kind of replication, remediation in the springtime?
>> Absolutely. So, uh, our our our vendor would perform the work. You know, I if it's determined, um, you know, we can proceed. Uh, you know, if it's the winter months, um, obviously grass is not growing, it it doesn't make sense to put down any any
sort of seed at this time. Um we would absolutely have them return uh early spring uh months March, April um to to set new lom uh and then hydro seed any um you know grassy areas disturbed uh
during construction. >> All right, good. Thank you. Anybody else? >> Oh, sorry. Yes. >> Jennifer eight barriers. Um I live right on the corner of uh Summers and Bay area where they're going to put the pool.
>> Um my concern is where the pool is going to be. Um I think there's a a weight pole sticking sticking up and I'm assuming that's where the pole is going to go. My concern is people cut that corner quite
often up to 2 to three feet. They cut the corner so they come up on the curb. Um, most of you know that there's no curb or B there. I'm concerned that people are going to
hit the pole and cause more damage and have more power outages. Um, I'd like to see maybe a BM or curb kind of put in that little area. >> Mhm. So to prevent maybe people
I can't prevent people from going across my yard or that corner, >> but I I just think that should be consideration. >> Okay. I think there's possibly two solutions here. And Pat, >> I think it's something that you could
work with the highway department to either we go ahead and put the Burm in or we put it in and you reimburse the highway department for putting the Burm in. show there's a protection. I don't suppose you'd like some of our our leftover rocks to go around the corner? >> I mean,
>> we're we're a town that has plenty of them. If you want some go up to the transgend turn that I'm worried about. >> So as you're coming south on Summers Road and you bend in pretty good. >> Yeah, that's that new thing. Okay. Can
we P is that something we can work on about the BM and protection for basically the pole as well? Yeah, I'm I'm happy to kind of work through those concerns. Um I'm I'm looking at kind of uh
>> Google Street View right now. I'm I'm seeing the the existing riser pole where the overhead cable transitions to underground cable. The new pole itself is planned to be installed exactly across the street in that same position.
>> I hear that before. Yes. um which you know is you know maybe 15 or 20 feet from the actual intersection of Summers Road. Um >> you know I I'm happy to kind of have
that conversation about what we can set to to to minimize uh road traffic. But I mean if you're cutting that corner and that early on that right-hand turn you got a problem. >> She's lived there a while. She's seen some incredible things and I'm not
looking for I'm not doubting that. I'm not doubting that. >> Great. >> You'd be surprised. >> You'd be surprised. >> Totally understand. >> Yep. Anybody else? >> Yes, ma'am.
>> Betty Cron Drive um the company that came and marked where the wires were on the street >> Mhm. >> uh painted the snow. Was that you your guys or not? >> And they did not they don't have flags
up on Colony Drive at the end of Colony Drive. >> So I want to make sure that you people know where the cable is supposed to because we have a spectral cable there and >> I imagine there's gas line there and there's no markings on the street
anymore. >> Do you guys have gas in your subdivision? Do you really? Okay, great. So I know they talked in the earlier session that dig safe and all that was going to be followed through this. So I'm sure they'll have whether it's ground radar or whatever they'll have
everything sensed as to where it is. >> I do agree with I do agree with you. Marking the snow seemed a little >> it was. >> Yeah. >> So um to that point um yep we will be dig safing. Um we will be utilizing
ground penetrating radar to identify locations of buried utilities. Um they also will be um utilizing uh a vacuum excavation truck. Uh it it basically as
a as a third uh method if necessary to identify buried loca utility locations. Um, but basically, uh, they they'll typically call in the dig safe, uh, for, you know, we'll call it the first
portion of the project. They're not going to they don't typically call the dig safe in for the entirety of the project. They'll do it in phases. So, it might only be a portion of the neighborhood has been actually marked out. Um and as they progress through um
you know in phases you know additional portions of the the neighborhood will be marked um with you know paint on the ground. Um and again to your point um spray painting snow doesn't make a lot of sense. Um but that being said a
couple phone calls can be made and and have Dig Safe return to um to remark as needed. Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Oh, just one last thing. Um, February break is midFebruary. So, power outages
during that time would be a great idea for parents who have kids. >> Isn't everybody on vacation in Florida at that time though? >> So, just keep that in mind. Or what they're she's saying is that if you sent everybody to Florida on your
dime at that time, feel free to go through the subdivision. >> Yeah. Trips to Orlando for everyone. >> There you go. >> This is a recorded message. >> Okay. >> No. Um we are certainly um considerate
of uh school vacation. Um the last thing we want to do is uh turn power off to um families with kids. Um, you know, I got two of my own. Um, it would it would be debilitating uh to lose power uh for an
extended period of time um when them when they're home from school. So, totally understand that. That would not be something we would coordinate our, you know, our operations crews in the field. You know, a lot of them have kids were well aware of school vacation um and are are receptive to that concern.
>> Sounds like he's opening his house up for anybody who's, you know, compromised by this. Are there >> if you want to get in the car? I'm a couple hours away. >> Yes, ma'am. >> I apologize if this was already asked because I came in late. I was wondering if um
>> Can you just for Ruth, can you just tell her who you are? >> Oh, sorry. Lauren Lewood, Genevie Drive. >> Genevie, can you first name again? >> Um I'm just wondering taking the temperature into account because I mean losing power when it's subzero outside even for 4 hours. >> We did. We touched on that. Yeah. Earlier.
>> Apologize. >> Yeah, that's okay. No, it's a great question. I mean, we were talking supposed to be, I think, hitting minus one this weekend, >> which is now Fran and I remember back in the 1800s when it was a lot colder than now. >> Yeah. >> And, you know, I'm happy to kind of
expand a little bit there. Um, you know, if we're if we're anticipating, you know, a prolonged period, uh, where we're below freezing for, you know, an extended stretch, you know, we're we're not coordinating and scheduling those an
outage to cut over to the new cable at that time. >> Um, we we're we're certainly uh considerate of what the temperatures are. So if we if we get um you know maybe a week of where it's in the 40s uh in the towards the end of February um it
might be you know it might be four or five weeks after construction potentially out on the neighborhood has stopped but the cable hasn't been cut over yet for for cold weather patches. Um >> I was going to ask you that is there there's no reason you have to do the
things next to each other. You can have a gap between the actual installation of the underground and the actual reconnection. >> Correct. Correct. >> There is there is a possibility of no disruption depending on which >> Exactly. >> Right. >> Exactly. So
um it I I got to walk through it with the operation supervisor. Um there there are uh approximately five transformers, you know, that will be replaced and the customers that are served from those five will certainly see an outage. Um
but it's possible that um you know, other parts of the neighborhood aren't affected. >> Okay. Anybody else? Not seeing anybody. Andrew did.
>> I don't see anyone. >> Andrew. Yes. >> Question I got on the uh directional boring. >> Mhm. >> Have you guys done any other communities around Hampton like East Long Meadow
Mson Wolverampton directional boring >> or is um >> I know you're from the southeastern part of the state or have you only used it out there? So, uh, we're we're utilizing this, uh,
construction method, um, across the state of Massachusetts. Um, I I believe we've done work in Wilberham, uh, earlier this year. Um, >> I don't have a ton of I'm sorry,
>> I can chime in. I know we did Squire Drive and there was one other project. We've done two recently. I think I think they mentioned that at the meeting in in Octo One issue is there's certain utility that discontinued using this because Western Mass has a lot of ledge
and red rock and we are very close to East Long Meadow or not Long Meadow where they have clay and all that and it's easier to do. If this fails and you lose the mold, you start popping up through driveways and stuff. Are you willing to go over to conventional
digging, trenching, cutting, and running conduit in the right in the public way? >> Uh, great question. Um, that's absolutely something we would consider. Um, but you know, I will I will mention
uh we have a a project that's presently ongoing in Manchester by the Sea where we're anticipating uh 90% of ledge, granite, rock conditions. Um the vendor itself is well
suited to work in these types of conditions. Um it's they're they're not unfamiliar. With that in mind, um, you know, if it if it becomes, you know, a situation where we need to, uh,
transition to our traditional open trench construction, that is certainly something we can do. Um, but it's not something I'm expecting. Um, there's there's plenty of towns, uh, you know, in central Mass. um the the burrows
themselves, uh you know, West Burrow, North Burrow, um Marbar, etc. Um I I've done projects in in those towns, um in the past, and they they have tended to be particularly rocky. Um and we've been
successful there. Um so I I I can appreciate uh the boulders and the rocks um in the concern with losing the actual drill bit. um you know, hitting a rock and it being bounced off course. But
they the the crew itself um they have a spotter that carries um basically um a a ground penetrating device that gives readings on the drill bit, the
head itself, um the direction it's um you know the the angles uh that it's presently you know working and rotating at. you know, it'll give readings of if the drill itself is, uh, coming up, uh, being dipping down, being shifted to the
right or left. Um, so, you know, it's it's pretty immediate feedback that, um, the crews will get if they if they if they encounter um, you know, you know, a boulder below grade. >> Yeah. I will I will note
>> say if it does fail, you can't you'll switch over to the traditional way. >> Yep. finish it. >> I will say we had some mo we did the mole work for the extension for the water district. >> But when you do that, you're talking an 8 to 10 inch line compared to this is
probably what you running a 3-in conduit. >> It was a 4 inch line. >> A 4 in. >> Yeah. >> But >> surprisingly, and I think it was mentioned that the project when it started, gosh, only 4 in. And yeah, with the pressure, we had enough. >> The other question I got, you're switching and packing rules. Are you
guys allowed to pull the cable into the energized transformer in those 36 in silos? Pull in while it's energized and make up the elbows while it's energized to cut down on the outage or you going to have to take an outage from both cables coming in to do that.
>> We'll we'll be building all the splicing and termination with the pads energized. >> Thank you. A little more technical than the board knew, but thank you. >> All right. Are there any other questions from anybody here? Again, feel free to email our board.
We'd like the communication how we can reach out to you. If you send that to our email address, we'll build that data file and make sure that anything we hear, we'll hear back to you. >> Want to think this was for petition hearing? >> Yes. >> What are they petitioning to put in?
>> Basically, the right to go and drill through, you know, the town the town streets. Yeah. >> No, we already had a hearing on the poll, >> you know, change, right? Yeah.
>> Motion to close the hearing. >> I'd love it. >> Motion to close the hearing. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I would like a motion to approve the applicant. >> Okay, Mr. Chairman, I move that the National Grid petition as described in
plan number WR31218 be granted permission to e excavate the public highways and to run and maintain underground electric conduits together. which such sustaining and protecting features that may be necessary for the transmission of electricity
set underground conduits to be located substantially in accordance with the plan 3121108 filed here with marked Bayberry Road and Colony Drive, Hampton, Massachusetts. >> Second. >> And to be clear, this is somewhat
standard language. As he said, they don't really plan on excavating, but this is how it's described. All those in favor? I. >> Thank you again. We appreciate seeing you all here. This is the new town hall. We're all
lucky. >> Monday night. >> We're here every Monday night. >> It's Tuesday. >> Monday. >> It's Tuesday. >> And we're here next Tuesday night. >> Appearing here next Monday night. Bring a friend. >> Awesome. >> Thursday morning. Thursday morning.
>> All right. What? Which? >> I have no idea. >> John has the original. >> I don't see how you could tell much of a difference. They're all copies >> meetings on warmer nights. >> Lauren had a send the cops to pick you
up in a cruiser or something. Nice corn cruiser. >> That would have been nice. >> They wouldn't do it without the handcuffs though. >> What are we doing now? like Clinton and Amanda National. >> No, I checked Quinton email and he said
here >> you're Leos or not. >> Are you from >> I'm National Grid? They're our contractor for bigger jobs. >> Are you from Leos? >> Yes. >> Okay. Cuz that was Clinton said, "Yeah, I'll make sure somebody li >> Yeah, cuz the design I've walked the entire room." >> But it was just funny that we had five
people at the other meeting and none of those five people showed up at this meeting. Oh, on the other hand, on the other hand, they were all they were all from Eastern Mass and I'm sure they're thinking like I ain't driving out there in the summer. >> Well, Clinton was on vacation. So, that's why he made sure I
>> can try to help. >> I hope you're not too far away. >> Well, I live in uh Littleton, so hour and a half. >> It's not the worst, but it's not great. >> Yeah, 49 here. I'm here. I'm the designer that beats with all the residents for their >> Are you the guy that sprayed the orange
snow? No, that's a >> it's a state. >> Oh, so it wasn't you. >> No, it's a third party. >> But it does sound a little like seriously >> sound like somebody preemptively dug or sprayed. We only get 30 days that those are valid for it. >> Okay. >> Somebody can put something in.
>> Thank you for coming out. >> Question. >> We're alive. >> Yes. Go ahead. >> Serious about that committee and being chairman of the committee for that last meeting we talked the old town hall thing. No, but do you want to be on it? Well, I'd >> like to be the chairman.
>> Well, you have to be appointed to it first. >> Okay. Yeah, I like >> Okay. Well, we're discussing the Donna's written up some great stuff. We'll put you on the list for consideration and we got to get this moving. >> Got to get it moving, right?
>> Super. >> All right. Great. >> I got a couple other people there. I'll tell them, too. >> Well, we already got 18 names that want to be on it. >> Oh, wow. And you've been on plenty of committees. You know there's a finite number before nothing gets done. Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> So >> Okay.
>> But that doesn't mean people can't go at the meeting. >> But you just have to have so many vote and the rest can all be suggestions. >> Sounds good. >> Thank you. Good meeting. >> Nothing. >> Thank you for coming. Thank you for bringing what's his name. >> The one in front was my daughter. The
other >> I know. I think I knowledge here. He wouldn't be here. represented by Laura. >> She owns the house. >> She lives behind >> good. What do I say? An hour.
All right. So, we're going to take a 15-minute break to just to relax and re regroup. Get out of here. Oh, this is it. >> It's all you need. >> All right. >> So, we have
>> get what you ask for. >> I was kind of hoping Doug, >> if you could move that outside, I appreciate it. We can't really hear. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Derek. >> I can't hear you. >> I know we That same thing happened at the meeting we had last week. Um, I
actually asked Doug was going to try and come, but he's at the uh meeting at the school. I think they've got a finance subcommittee >> priority. >> Yeah. Well, from what he sent me, it's a good priority. Uh, quarterly financial review, semi quarterly financial review.
So, here we are starting the third quarter. Alicia, you've done a great job of sending out information to different boards and committees and departments on where they stand financially and what potentially could see a problem down the road. Dick, you got a better, I think,
sense of cash flow coming in, what might impact, and the two of you work well together. What do you see financially? First off, incomewise, we're at our projection level. As far as you know, >> I don't see any reason not to. Uh we've
had a little bit of a problem. First of all, I have not executed the uh the borrowing um that was authorized. I have not had to yet. >> I am trying to squeak through this last 10 days. >> Um I got a 1.1 million payment to the
school on Monday >> that I'm hoping I can make it. I made it through the traditional payments today without doing any borrowing. um were a little complicated in that the uh tax receipts were a little bit delayed. Um they were having
a problem with that air gap radar system. It was down for two days last week and it's operating a little bit slow now. So that is slowing down the amount that Shield has been able to process a little bit. >> It's a short-term problem. It's very
annoying that that system's very annoying. um it's not very well supported by the vendor anymore. I think that's part of the problem. So anyway, that's caused a little bit of a delay. So we're probably a few hundred,000 behind in by a day or
two or three or whatever. I'm hoping we can catch up this week. There's a chance that I can actually pull this off without executing any borrowing, but we've got that. >> But do you have the authorization your back in your back pocket anyhow already? >> Yeah, that's just an AC. So it's just I can do it on 24 hours notice.
>> It might be a matter of I'll be coming in Friday to to move the last money around to make everything work. But >> okay, the excise projections typically we always go low. Do you see it trending that we are going to exceed our expectation? >> I have no idea what the 26th commitment
is yet. I I don't know. I don't know how big the commitment was prepared is the first one is out yet. See excise on calendar year. >> Mhm. So the registry normally see that
excise commitment go out I don't know first week of February second week of February >> so we should be seeing it pretty soon but that's >> I know Cliff always said there was like a large one and then several little ones that come out >> right commitment one because it's
calendar year >> is uh is the biggest one because it's everybody that's normal >> um and you know I had the car last year I had the car this year and then the new stuff kicks in, >> right? >> But that data that data wouldn't have come in 20 days into the year yet.
>> All right. So, we'll hear that the next group meeting we have if hopefully we're on somewhat on track. Like I say, typically Cliff used to project low on that. So, always a little wiggle room. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. Traditionally always
tax rate. >> No, we're talking about the excise. I think that was part of the question that we had. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Always. But that doesn't do anything but affect our free cash next. >> Exactly. Which we're hoping is going to
be really good, >> right? >> Yes. >> Better be. >> Thank Thank you for sending me that stuff on the transfer station. >> How close are we to two and a half override?
I I do I would only have 11 plus four 500,000. >> Did you get it up that high because it was over a million last year? >> Yeah. >> And we're we're what now? >> Half a million follow.
I can look it up on gateway for you. >> But that was because we took some things off at the special town meeting that would have brought us right up potentially. >> Well, yeah. >> Yeah. We knocked gosh 300,000. >> I'm just praying about the school the school assessment. >> I don't blame it. I obviously
>> and they haven't filed they haven't done their uh they haven't got a contract with the teachers yet or pair with their pair professionals either. >> You know they made the comment at the at the meeting last week that you know there's a 1% shift in population. >> Yeah. But that's 1% from 20 like from 20
to 21 or 19 to 20 that's a 5% increase in our assessment. >> Mhm. >> And the other >> 60 65% of our budget. >> They did send uh some information that showed some projected capital cost that may not be this year. One thing that did
show up and I talked to Brian about this where they had a bit of a historical look back at this building and I don't know I don't think we had enough of that data beforehand before we set the budget but back in
2122 the gas bill for instance for this building was 30 to $40,000 and that wasn't even with full population at that point I that stopped in 18 Don 17 18. >> Yeah. So, >> so Brian and I are looking at what we
appropriate for utilities here. We could be running short big time in that account. We need to take a look at a how we're maintaining our heat here. And I think we've seen a bit of an increase since that time in the Eversource. Do you have gas at home? >> Yeah, that bill has gone up.
>> Yeah, gas bills have gone up. >> Right. So, we could be surprised. So, I think it's something we got to keep track of. I mean, I'm not saying you guys can't turn the heat on in your office, >> but don't turn the heat on in your office. >> What? >> We're at a 70% usage of the
appropriation >> already utilities. >> Counting today's warrant >> and that's I mean, we take a look at the warrant, see what the act I don't even know if we've actually looked at an Eversource gas bill yet. See what it is. >> That's that's a homologation of both
buildings. So, a combination of both buildings. So it's a little confusing. >> No, it was the TWWB gas bill >> is what we had. So >> the accounts are combined. >> The council combined. >> It's townhouse utility account you
referring to, >> right? Which I mean at this point should be 95% in terms of utility, you know. Yeah. >> What I'm saying is there is a little expense for both buildings. Not much here before thereafter. But >> yeah, >> we'll have to break that down a little
bit more. I mean, it'd be nice to see if you have a chance to look at what's the latest Evers Source gas bill we got and project that going forward. >> But you're absolutely right. I mean, I got a feeling this is going to be the worst budget year in 15 years. You know, >> I don't remember it being me being this
nervous before. >> The upcoming or the current? >> The one we're budgeting right now, >> right, >> that we're about to start the budget process for, I think, is going to be our toughest year in a while, >> right? But I think we're going to see challenges inside this year for things
of unknowns of a this building that might see accounts that are a little I want to say challenging. I see some there like oh gosh this is a little higher than it would have seen it this type of year and the 25,000 that advisory has I think we're going to be tapping into that a lot sooner than
years in the past requesting them for a little help on different things. So that's why it's good to have this type of meeting. Again, I think the information at least heck of a document you're putting out. Thank you for not printing it and just emailing it because that would be a huge waste of paper. Um,
but I know talking to other department heads, it's a great help for everybody. And as soon as you fix up that office, it's >> any anywhere in the health trust. the office. >> Okay. >> The health the health benefits address.
>> You're looking what do you think five 7%. Um two weeks ago they were talking 5 to 10 but today the consultants they're always very conservative. They always want us to keep the rates up. The question is I mean there's six voting units.
>> Yeah. I'm hoping to get down into the four or five% range, but it'll depend on how much political support I got. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Our quote was 9% at work. >> But we have
>> some reserves still. We have burned them down and you know there's no reason for them to be sitting in the in the bank. Mhm. >> Yeah, there's about an extra 3 million in there that we have worked out uh from the the desired point, but it used to be
used to be six or seven million. >> And you know, I mean, I've been fighting them for 10 years, been 10 or 15 years to >> turn that money back to the town. This is a good year to push hard. Mhm. >> And then we got other we got we got to
renegotiate the dispatch contract. >> Mhm. >> And the ambulance is going up 3%. But we take >> I think we took an extension on the transfer station, didn't we? We didn't want to give him a new one. >> What? >> I think we exercised an extension
>> transfer. We actually extension trans. But the dispatch, we got to see what they're going to do there. And then we got the uh ambulances going to go up 3%. But we take part of that uh rebate money and do the same thing again this year. >> The town administrator's contract coming
out. >> Don't tell them. >> Oh, you're not told. You're not up this year. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There he is. >> You're up this year, are you? >> I mean, >> why? >> Cuz I am. Anything you can reduce that ambulance payment by by lowering the
rebate payment saves you money in this year where it doesn't come back until it's not really good for another year after that. >> Right. Right. >> Rolls into free cash in the next year. So, >> you know, if we've got a tight year, then that would be the time to lower
that monthly payment in exchange for uh a lower rebate. >> Now, we did pretty good last year. I think we did 50,000 then we got another 31,000. So >> yeah, >> that makes perfect sense. >> You're not three years already.
>> A half pretty much cuz we wanted to line it up with the fiscal year started in March. >> This is his last year. March to June and then >> no we have to pay him >> and then that's the other thing you guys are going to start thinking about is what the what the salary number is going to be for the non bargained employees.
>> Yeah. I mean I heard a last thing I heard was 2.7 was inflation rate. So at least it should be a lot lower than in the past >> and you know remember there's also a step thing where those people are getting 2% every
year. Half half the people roughly >> about half people get a step each year. Yeah. Every other of the year. >> Yeah. >> Everybody gets one. Depends on the start date. >> Mhm. >> Um >> and we still have the uh if you will the union contract sitting out, not done >> for
>> highway. All 27 of them. Yeah. >> So that's the contract that started last July hasn't been started yet. >> Nope. So at some point there might be a retro number on that that comes out. >> Might be there was a number carried in
it. So we're hoping the >> Oh, okay. >> Well, like I'm sure the school although I'm >> I'm sure they carried something in their budget but not >> well you know politically the lower the number you do on the non-bargain the bargains have too.
>> Okay. All right. Anything else? The one that bothers me that really >> Oh, yeah. >> worried about the assessment. The school assessment really bothers me. >> I don't like to >> It should you know if if that's not what 5% because of population shift another
3% for for cost of living. >> Mhm. >> You know 8%. >> 8 time 8% of 9 million is 720,000. >> Yeah. >> That's going to eat up a lot of our uh >> millionaire a million there. got real
money ever. >> And I mean, is it logical that would be the number? >> Yeah, it could be. Yep. >> Fortunately, they're probably going to do zerobased budget and come down hugely in their base budget. >> Oh, sure. >> Oh, sure.
>> We won't have as much pressure from him finance committee on them this year. >> Mhm. >> Because of that shift. That's not as big a difference to them. >> No. Right. >> Look, we got advantage of it before. So yes, it does turn. We had a few years where the number
>> wine about it. >> Plus they're going to want >> I nominate Dick. >> Plus they're going to want money for the uh middle school. >> Yeah. >> renovations. >> They didn't do for 10 years. >> Everybody can want Yeah.
>> Tell them we won't do it without an override. We can't do it inside the budget. >> Right. Mhm. Even that. All right. Is there anything else that you guys any other good news? >> Yeah. >> All right. Great. >> All right.
>> Thank you. >> Everybody autograph that. >> Yeah. >> Oh, you guys are so efficient. >> I'm impressed. >> Maybe you just pay us this quarter. We can >> easy to make an ax. >> You still had a big crowd, but you brought cookies this week. We >> missed the last one.
>> Maybe they were in a different area. Thank you. >> All right. Annual town meeting logistics. Brian, you said that was typically just a question. Are we going to run the AV again this year? >> Yeah. >> Start. >> Um, and a couple other things, too, on top of that. So, we're looking at May
11th, right? >> The annual bylaw. >> Yes. Second Monday of May. >> Yes. >> Second Monday of May. >> Yes. >> Oh, I went too far here. >> Third Monday is the election. So the 11th then
>> 6:30 we changed it, right? >> It's official. >> 6:30. Um thoughts about warrants uh when we want uh warrant articles in citizens petitions, those types of things.
>> No, it's a little late to say May uh February 1. It'd be a little tough to put out there. Uh, I would want to say May March 1st. >> March one. Too too too late. >> I think it's too late. >> What? March one. >> You got committees that only meet. Some
committees only meet once a month. You got the vacation week. I think it's >> March one. >> That's the goal. March 1st. >> Yeah. March 1st. >> Yeah. That's the drop dead date. >> And yes. So, the question about the AV >> and if yes on the AV, what about the overflow room?
It's about $1,500 difference. Well, although I don't think we have a good a perfect sense of what's coming before us other than the budget, I don't know of any warrant at this point that would be causing it.
>> No, the only thing is if the schools bring forward the >> regional rem they're ready for it, but >> Okay. We're not ready for it because they're going to want us to pay 15 20 now 21% of >> over the middle. So, it's going down the
toilet. >> But other than that, I can't think of anything that's >> in our in our Billy Wick that's going to cause >> other than the budget, >> which may be a thing. >> If it's so bad it requires an override
vote, >> then you'll have to override. >> Then we have to overflow. Heck, we may be in that room. Maybe just be in a safe room. Panic. Yeah. Thanks. Um, at this point, I don't know. I I
wouldn't commit. >> Okay. >> Citizens petition is the same date, March 1st. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> I haven't heard of any at this point. >> No. >> Um, what else? Anything else? I don't think so. I was just wanted to nail that
down because they were asking to reserve dates for that. >> Okay. Townhouse Repurposing Committee. >> Okay. >> THRP. >> Well, actually, I got the old townhouse future committee. >> I I don't want to say, you know, you
want to give the sense in the committee name that it's not going one way or the other. >> Right. So >> future and repurposing both give the same idea that we're open to anything. So I don't care >> what you call >> that's too late cuz it's went out to everybody. >> It's all caps kind of like the
president. That's nice. >> Anyhow, so you social >> Oh, you're tweeting it later, Don. Thank you. >> So So we put together we put together a uh what do you want to call it? Amissions a mandate. Mandate, right? >> Yeah.
>> Committee mandate procedure and all that stuff. put that together and we put together a expression of interest because we have actually had 18 or 19 people who apply who are interested in it and I think we all agree that you can only have nine the most to make it make
it >> so but it doesn't preclude anybody else from going to any meeting and I'm sure having anything to say >> he said in spring yeah >> and we also uh Brian sent out an email explaining to the people that we want to have an expedited schedule we want to try to move this as fast as possible as
we can get it done at at by town meeting and keeping in mind any changes that may happen with the fire department. So that's where we are in there. >> So uh this has already gone out. Next week we would have picked the people on the 26th, appoint the people on the 26th.
>> Mhm. >> Put together a package for them. Uh I was thinking we would get them started by doing a package of the the uh the assessment of the townhouse, the zone that it's in uh the open meeting law
uh in some some articles on other towns. What was what other towns have done? >> Yeah. In the proceed >> your membership thing, Don, I just a couple. Do we want to I mean town administrator and select board member for the I don't want to say exeicio type
thing. facilities manager. >> Well, I thought that, but you know what? I I put I put in there that they they should consult with the facility manager and the building inspector and appropriate. >> Oh, that's not that important. >> Rather make rather than make them feel
that they have to come to every meeting. >> Yeah. And then the historical commission would be >> historical commission part of that. Okay. All right. >> All right. >> Do they get a clerk? >> Yeah, I think they're going to need a clerk. >> Should they appoint a clerk? >> Nominate one. What? >> They can nominate one.
>> They can nominate a clerk. Yeah. >> Uh well, it gets into >> We're talking about someone who's going to do the work. >> Well, that's the thing. I mean, it could be a lot of research time. You also could be are they going to get an email address? Are they going to get uh a space on the town? >> So, we may we may have to have a a
temporary employee. >> Temp employee. We got there is u one employee that actually advisory is chatting with now to see if she wants to take on some clerical work for them. >> Oh okay. >> And this is not going to be a long-term thing any three or four months at most.
>> So I think maybe offer it to somebody already here. So they're already on the I don't want to say the payroll but in the system >> right >> make an internal posting for clerical work. >> Right. >> You do that. So Ruth, okay, we'll appoint you. What? >> I'm going to be gone February and April.
>> You don't want me >> to be doing it. >> Thank you for volunteering. >> All right. So I think with this much data and stuff and going out to people, >> you can't put it on one member who's already volunteering, >> right? >> So
>> we got to get some. >> So we need to we'll say the budget for this is coming out of either selectment expenses and or temporary health. Okay. Assuming we still have money. >> That's it on that. >> All right. So, I'll entertain a motion
to uh approve this uh basically I say mission statement slashmandate. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I entertain a motion that Don Davenport be the selectman select board member representative the membership.
>> Second. >> Second. >> You sure? Yeah. Very great. Thank all in favor. I >> That was your chance. >> My chance. >> That was your chance. All right. So, we have this. We have the list of You're going to change fix the spelling, right? >> What?
>> You don't fix the spelling. >> Where is that spelling? >> You spell committee wrong. >> Really? >> That's the problem with Word. It doesn't correct anything. It's all caps, right? >> C O M M I T E. That's how you spell committee.
Oh, two T's. >> Actually, that might No, you might be referring to a person there. >> I got two client. >> Yeah, but this is the mandated thing. >> This the other one. This one's good. >> Oh, yeah. This one's an extra. >> Yeah, but this might be this might be someone who commits,
>> right? That's a word. >> Somebody who commits a pledge. >> That's a pledge. Yeah. >> Right. And word word doesn't word word doesn't correct the capitals. >> So Brian, you're also going to go here's another 12 bucks a month. You're going to need an email address for whatever
you're going to call this thing. >> Ofc. >> I don't want to be the old gray mule. Um, can the committee just create their own Gmail or do they have to use a town.gov? I had to let I hate to I hate to spend it, but you can
also get rid of the do.gov when you're done. It's usually around 11 bucks a month. >> Okay. >> So, but I don't want a 27digit, you know, the old townhouse repurposing committee at the mail.gov. Although it would cut down the amount of email you
get. >> I was going to type that all in. >> Just put townhouse committee. That's all. >> All right. >> Right. Yep. >> We'll know what we'll know what it is. I'm get that out there, too. All right. Okay. So, we're going to email that to
everybody you got on there. Adding Fran to the list as well. >> Fran is on the list. >> Was he on Fran? Oh, Franwood. >> Yeah. No, you you're not on the list. >> Can't find an email or we can't email it to him. >> I'm sure you'll find an email in the in the select email. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. I would very have received email. >> Yeah. Don's got his number and his fax machine and everything from back in the day. TXlegraph. Okay. >> All right. Uh let's see.
Select board member report. Eric, you want a report on the health meeting? >> Yeah. So, uh last week I attended the uh EHSPHS shared health advisory group. Um it was a good meeting. Um you know, Ryan Paxton
took over for Finn. Um and he you know and I quite quite the agenda uh very well spoken young gentleman. Um basically one of his bigger um not not really bigger question but one of his um things is is that um they were talking
about the awareness of a public health emergency preparedness um in collaborative with with multiple towns and that where like we have our preparedness for like emergency disasters which this is a health emergency and then he kind of stepped up
he I volunteered to be the designate for Hampton and and the other the other various towns. So he would be our you know our primary contact for health or health related emergencies. Um the other piece of the puzzle was he was um
talking about a system called Maven and um that he's got access to all the other neighboring towns except Fort Hampton. And I said I'd bring it back to the board and I would um you know chat with your gentleman about options on for that because the other towns were comfortable
with him having access updating. >> We have remember during co we always have to do it. We had to do it >> always because would always report to us that so we just so so that somehow we had to figure out how to get
>> Ryan access to that behalf if that's okay with the board. I'm sure we have >> to worry and see what Yeah, >> cuz we got that on a weekly basis. >> You know, the public health nurse does a reporting I think. >> Okay. Public health nurse probably has it. >> Okay. Public heal though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. So, we can get >> If he doesn't know, he may not just be tied in yet. Yeah. That's hard. >> Very good. Yeah. And then he just talked about um there was some uh purple air network air quality sensor grant that has been received and basically um some of the neighboring towns had air quality
monitors and that um he would like to see one of those monitors in each town which Hammet doesn't currently have one to my knowledge. So basically um with that being said, if we were to accept the air quality sensor, we would need to
um the part of the grant is it has to be installed within 60 days and it has to be um public property with an outlet and Wi-Fi access in order to in order to be installed. >> Okay. But other than that, doesn't cost anything. >> Doesn't cost us anything.
>> So if we plug it in here somewhere, right? >> We could plug it in here. We could put it out front. I I believe well I believe it has to be outside. That's the other piece of the puzzle. Has to be outside >> and Wi-Fi access >> and Wi-Fi accessible and have access to an outlet. >> Well, I mean if it's part I mean if it's within range >> in the back of your mind.
>> No, I'm just saying the top of the gazebo is the place that's got power. >> Air quality network. It's got a a website the public can access and and see what our air quality score is compared to the top of the other one. The air always pristine.
>> Um and he and he was >> Yeah, that was >> really >> That was really about it. I mean, he talked a little bit about the uh rental inspections for like rental units like for habitable inspections for like health inspections that
>> basically that they would do that as a per fee service. I said I don't think Hampton really just like Wilberham and the other towns. We don't have a Wilberham's more so than Hampton, but we don't have a huge rental volume of that. But for some reason, if that were to that subject were to come up that it would be a fee, he would they would
offer that as a fee >> to us. >> No, to the homeowner for like a if if you're like going to rent the house, like the person who's going to go rent it, if they want to have a health inspection, >> he would, >> you know, like he would, you know, they would offer that as kind of a day for free service,
>> but it's not a mandate. >> Not a mandate. No, not a mandate. Just something that they could offer. Um, other than that, um, that was pretty much it for that. >> Planning board was cancelled this week or last week, I should say. >> What? >> Planning board was canceled last week.
Lack of business. >> I have nothing to report. >> Okay. Obviously, it'll be interesting to see what uh I think a lot of our information coming from outside right now is driven by the school committee and their subcommittees coming forward. extremely concerned about as Don has
said, you know, they have projections they're sharing with us, but I don't want to say cooler heads have to prevail. It's an understanding of the balance of things going forward. Yes, we all have needs. I got that. We got that. But
there's only so much in the cupboard. Yep. So, Ryan, how's the town hall? Fabulous. Great. Um, administrative report. Uh, trying to finish up the OPM contract.
I'll meet with Mark and Rose tomorrow morning to try to figure that out. Um, board voted today. So, I'll we'll solicit formally solicit a fee for Sakio Associates. Um,
and we'll go from there for the design part of the fire station expansion. Um this um I have a uh town hall use application from the garden club. They would like to use the uh town hall. No, permanently or
>> not permanently for uh uh I guess they meet several times a month and they have speakers and um I think what it's really I think it's really time in the layout when we initially uh thought about the building. There was a there was another
meeting room that was um by the right front entrance when you when you first came in off the library hallway. I think right now there's Christmas lights stored in it, but I think we'll have to think about um just setting that room up as a as a third meeting space cuz um >> well, we had talked before I think Don,
wasn't it the um >> Scanic B artisans? Then they asked for a space or something. >> And we talked about that would be maybe a more groupy type. They could use it. >> This group could use it like I would say an overflow, but a more miscellaneous if you will.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I I think it's well situated to be sort of a more of a community type meeting room if that makes sense. >> Um we have this space that you know the meeting room for the select board will have a large meeting room here. Um we have that small meeting room for outside of conservation planning.
>> Then obviously I just mentioned here. So um and then if we sort of had a a community type space I think that would I think that would work out well. >> Yeah. As long as we're careful on what they store there. I mean, it's a meeting space, not a >> storage room. >> Yeah. There's there's not an offer to to
store stuff there. It's just to use it on a couple dates similar to what other >> community easier than going heating the old town hall for that. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um >> and the process, sorry, progress on the meeting room. >> Um so, yep. So, the the abatement has
been done. >> Um and we got clearance from um we have to have an independent air evaluator. So, that's all clear. Um, and I think Herb is um going to be scheduling the carpet. I know the choice
the the first choice was not in stock at the >> at the the installer and they they placed that order. I don't recall I don't recall exactly when they were coming back. Um, but I think it was in the next couple weeks. >> Yeah. what he showed me and I came out and looked at it which is probably the worst idea because I'm color deficient
but the blue like we have in the other rooms is longer lead time and he had in stock kind of almost like a tan beigy type thing but my concern was that is that something spills on it and we're stuck with that and we don't have a rug
cleaning system at this point or anything like that. So, I'm going to say we want a brown carpet that does show that, >> you know, it's like home. It really is. I mean, you know, cuz that's just Oh, we could order a Bissell rug cleaner thing, but that's another expense we don't want
right now. >> So, we went with a longer lead time. Only an extra week or something. >> Yeah. >> So, I think we're not going to have it available for the 27th. >> We wouldn't want to break it in without you, of course. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. >> We're going to meet the 27th, not the 26th, right? >> 27th. 26th. He's supposed to be back,
but there's no that, you know, that ship could be overrun with rebels or pirates or something. >> Are you you're back by the 27th? >> No, I'll be back on the 3rd. >> Oh, did we say anything? Oh, what? >> Why are we moving it? >> Hang on a second. So,
when are you leaving? >> I leave Thursday. >> So, why are we moving the meeting on the 26th? >> That was your idea. >> I thought he was going to be back. That's why. No, we're moving the February 2nd to the 3rd. >> Right. >> I've been talking about at the meeting 26th. >> This the 26th.
>> Okay. >> All right. >> It was moving February second. >> Ready for the 27th? Then it'll have to be the first official meeting will be on >> February to the 23rd to the 3rd. >> Right. >> Okay. >> All right. So, we're going to change the 27th. I don't know why I had 26th. I
thought it was for you. I really thought you were I thought you were coming back like a Monday night. something. There was something else, wasn't it? >> Wasn't that somebody else's schedule besides my There was something else I thought. >> What was it? >> I think I I can't recall.
>> All right. So, right now, I think we're back to meeting on Monday. >> Okay. Yeah, it's just Don and I have appointing you to everything at that point. Um All right. So, the meeting then you're saying the meeting in February, you'd be back for the third, correct?
>> Okay. You're coming in the second, >> correct? >> All right. So, you have Tuesday 6 p.m. >> Yeah. Monday, Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday. It doesn't matter. >> No, no, it doesn't. She's happy to get me out of the house any night. >> I think you need to tell her you're meeting both nights.
>> Busy week this week. >> Oh, man. This this budget stuff. You fit my luggage. You got >> I got a couple more things. Don't worry. >> More things to talk about. >> All right, let's go. um procurements we're currently working on. I'm working with the cemetery
commissioners. They have CPA money to uh through the driveway extension in the old cemetery. Um senior center HVAC project. Um Herb is working with uh John Matthews and Gary Winer on the the
technical scope for that project and once we have that we can put it out to bid. And also, uh, Herb's been working on the scope of work for the, uh, HBAC work that needs to be done here, particularly in the library. Um, so hopefully we'll be able to get those out
to bid, um, within the next couple weeks. Um, everybody's favorite bridge, the Main Street Bridge, now has chapter 85 approval of its design. >> So, >> did you notice the railing collapsed there?
>> Yeah, there's one I talked to Mark about. There's one that's off the thing and like hanging down. >> Yeah. >> Um, so that's a fully approved project. The benefit of >> fully approved or fully paid for? >> No, fully approved. Not paid for at all.
>> One of the benefits to that is it's it's easier to get it on the it listed on the with the NO. >> Yeah. Um, so >> so is there a possibility we talked before of getting tip money for that or not? >> Yeah, >> possibly. I think it now that the now
that the design is approved, I think I think it's worth that outreach to the NPL. >> Okay. But they also that other group told us that they applied applied for the tip program for the uh Rockadundy Bridge and our concern was that well is
that going to take away from the possibility of getting other projects cuz you know one bridge over the other we know which one needs to be replaced. You know, it may be that at some point we'll have to prioritize, but I I think I think we have to we have to get it listed at least.
>> Okay. >> Um if the board wants to go through with that. >> Um >> you mentioned Rockund Bridge, the other bridge, uh South Road Bridge. >> Um >> so we did receive the the small bridge grant for that or the full amount that
we anticipated for the construction cost instead of the 500,000 they gave us the 780,000 I think. Okay. >> Yeah. So, again, that's um so that contract is signed. Um we're set. We're waiting for the notice to proceed. Um
but VHB is ready to go. We're we're we're putting together the bidding documents for that. So, that should go out sometime this spring. >> Okay. Does VHB are they in charge of like running the conservation hearing, stuff like that? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Yeah, they're in charge of they're
responsible for the permitting. Yep. Okay. >> Yep. Um, so hopefully that will be spraying. Hopefully that'll get replaced, you know, 12 months from now. Hopefully, um, >> people don't know
>> about it. >> People don't know how many bridges we have in town. It's incredible. Okay, that's it. Motion to adjourn. >> Second to add, anything? >> No. Like you have no >> nothing to add. Where's John?
I haven't seen John since last week. >> Laster. Okay, fine. All in favor? >> I Thank you.