Good evening. I'd like to call the August 4th, 2025 meeting of the Hampton Select Board and Board of Health to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. This meeting is being held in the townhouse auditorium and also broadcast on Zoom. We are recording the meeting. Is there anyone else recording the meeting? Kristen. Yes. Kristen Rivers from the Hampton
Times. Get that surprise look off your face. Don. Hello. Oh, welcome Kristen. All right. So, the first thing we have minutes of July 21st. the violation of unregistered vehicles. Have we gotten any
response? We had a poll hearing. See here building up and reminder to just a couple things on these minutes. I know we want to touch on that may not be on the agenda per se, but maybe under
our reports later, we want to touch on the newsletter plus where we stand on meeting minutes, etc. Although Brian, you're probably bringing that up on Wednesday, right? Yeah. Let's touch on newsletter later, Don. Okay. Okay.
Can I get a motion? Move approval of the July 21st, 2025 minutes. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. All right. We have on the agenda a
public hearing for the National Grid Pollition 308 09068. And who do we have from the petitioner? Hi there. Uh my name's Keegan Lynch. I'm representing National Grid for this
petition hearing. Um this uh this job uh is for uh it's a part of a reliability project going down Glendale Road. Uh majority of the work is starting in Wilberham. Uh and it's
just this small section of Glendale Road. um about seven poles that will be installed in the rightway. Um we're upgrading the existing singlephase line to three-phase spacer. Um which for anyone who's unfamiliar with spacer
cable, it's a essentially a almost a diamond pattern of uh three cables plus a messenger cable up top. Uh this increases reliability, allows us to carry better voltage uh towards the end of the line, which uh the end of
Glendale Road is. Um we'll also be upping the voltage here for better power quality. When you say the end of the road, I mean, is this power being sourced up the up Mson Road and coming down Glendel from Wilberham or
That'd be correct. They would be coming from uh Mson Road in Wilberham and stopping at uh it's currently P 69 which is uh I would say about halfway down Glendale Road if you included both the Wilberham section and the Hampton
section. All right. Is there are there any tree removals? Uh so the benefit of spacer table is that we'll be able to minimize any vegetation uh clearing that's needed uh for this specific section. I'm not aware of any trees needing to be trimmed
currently. Now these are all new poles. Uh yes, these would be new midspan poles. Um okay. Do you do you see on your your map poll 7250?
Uh yes I do. And 7650. Yes. Okay. Those two polls were subject of a conservation commission hearing back in March of uh 24
and uh they were not approved by the conservation commission because they were proud of a project of a solar u solar field that was going to be there and they determined that uh excuse me
just bear with me said that all that uh all soil and sand piles must be securely covered and surrounded by barriers if they remain overnight or longer than 24 hours. And the new poles 7650 and 7250 cannot be installed until the Glendale
Solar LLC is approved and that has not been approved. In addition, there was an additional poll 73.6 six which is in the in the in the buffer zone uh which was be overhead work to be done in that and that wasn't that was part of it wasn't
approved either. Correct. Yes. And that would still be the case. So those three poles would not be touched uh until that solar project is approved for the previous environmental hearing. So the only reason you're doing this is
just to increase reliability to the existing customers on the road. Correct. And it just have so happens the upgrade happens to stop at the uh location where the solar field was proposed.
Correct. So those two poles won't be part of it. will not until that solar site is approved. And the also the overhead work that's on 736 I guess it is. Yes, that'd be correct. Which would be
between those two polls uh right there. It's not shown on the map that you guys have, but it would be in that. So I guess my question is why why was it included in this proposal? Thank you. It's along the route of the uh the
liability project. So it's captured underneath this current work. I don't understand. So but you have a couple polls that are recommended against by the conservation commission.
Right. Right. So and honestly the increase in reliability is terrific. Um, I'm not sure we heard anything about a problem, not like we did with Chapen Road, which came before
our board, and we appreciate the fact that you took care of that and did a an upgrade up the road, but it just seems like this is awfully coincidental. Has the work of Wilber have been approved?
Uh the petition hearing for that is I believe two weeks from now uh the 25th of August I believe. Uh so we have not had that meeting with the town of Wilberham yet. I'm I'm a little bit concerned that that
these two polls these polls were still included in this in this wetland buffer zone. So, uh I I think we need more information on this and I'd move we don't approve this poll petitions for this evening. Eric, second.
I agree with you both. All in favor? of are we denying the petition or we are uh recommending they actually we're going to deny this because they cannot bring back this this is the wrong application. Right. Right. Um so we have a motion to deny the application.
So move. All in favor? I thank you. So again I will say not to go do too deep into it. Uh it's the addition of the two polls which we know were already recommended against from
the conservation commission. I think that was the predicate for the denial. Would you say Don? Yes. Yes. And certainly can bring it back with a lesser scope and we can discuss it at that time.
I'm not saying that would mean approval of a a lesser proposal, but it certainly will take away what we see as a problem with this proposal. Absolutely understood. Okay, great. Thank you. I'll close this public hearing then. Thank you,
Mark. I didn't get a chance. I'm sorry. Come on up, please. I didn't get a chance to ask you and I think in the future we want to make sure the recommendation of the high superintendent Oh, yeah. um you know is put on the record during the hearings. So
u stranger want to now or No, we denied it. So yeah, catch you next time if they come back. Typically I I um Lauren will send something out and I'll respond as the no objection. no objections or you know
there was one time there was a few up on shaping where visibility would have been an issue and I think the last one was the uh Senator Alson and the last one I think we just had Chestnut Hill I think a week or so ago at the last meeting. Yeah. Yep.
So hi there. Hi. And you're here to tell us about the state just beating you over the head with money. Yes. doesn't happen often. So, I'm no push this. All right. So, we got to move quick. So, yeah. Before they take it back.
Last week, I I met with uh Chris Bousard. He's our uh District 2 state aid engineer. Um I was having and I wasn't the only one. Um I was having a hard time understanding. It was right after that um our new aotment came out
for this year. Um it was that plus our balance sheet uh that we get from Mass DOT. Uh so I had some questions. Um
while it hasn't been officially approved, it's been confirmed that this money is going to go through uh and and pass and the governor is going to sign it. Uh so they had I had sent out a a you know kind of like a little breakdown
last week. They had uh they're raising the chapter 90 um to 300 million. Mhm. Um that's going to follow the same uh formula which is road miles based on miles of road. Right. Well, there's some other factors. Yeah. But I mean
um where we keep slipping because we're not adding miles our Yeah. Yeah. So they didn't Yes. Right. Correct. So um while other towns may be adding road miles Mhm. and Hampton isn't currently. Um, we
may see it see a decline in that money and that our aortionment. So, and then they they also added an $80 million supplemental aortionment this year. Um, and that's based strictly on road miles. Um, and
again, he didn't have the form for the formula for that. So, Mark, I have one couple questions here. So obviously we have two different funding if you will two different ways. Some is chapter 90 money and some is not.
So the chapter 90 money you have to obviously get approval from the state the type of project etc. And the local money you can kind of like use it on your under your own guidance. Yes. Secondly we go to town meeting and we usually
read an amount into the warrant. Uh-huh. Are we seeing here that this is a different amount? Brian, your thought on that? Yeah, we typically and D will one of us will get up and say we 251,000 whatever it is.
Right. And I think I believe that we did not include an amount this year. I think it was just all available funding. We accept all available funding from Mass D. That's unusual. I think there was a change this year because we we had no idea what the amount was going to be from.
Did we put this? Did we put that in the consent agenda? It wasn't the consent. Might have been really consent. Might have been. Yes, it was in the consent agenda. Oh no. Oh no. Or was it because it possibly involved borrowing and anticipation reimbursement?
Right. Oh, that was therefore got it got pulled out of the consent because of that. Right. I believe the motion was to accept all unusual. We usually throw an amount in there. Okay. We should look at that because obviously it's much bigger than any amount we would have said in the
spring. It is. Yeah. Yes. Right. Um, so, so, not to get too deep into it, you now have more money than you thought you would have for paving projects this year. I I do. Okay.
So, what I'd like to do is um I'd like to move move forward with the last submitted um project schedule uh that included um July 15th. Yes.
Okay. Um, the only thing is with this I may have to change around um funding sources and I can add um I'm going to need to add about 130,000. Um cuz we ended here
at about 861 and the new number is about 990. Mhm. So um I can actually include one of the projects I had deleted um previously. Um certainly that's something I can put together and but I put together and and
uh submit to the board for review, but I would like to at least have this um this schedule approved if if if you choose. Right. So are these all these are all projects
to be accomplished between now and July 30th of 26? January, I'm sorry. June. Okay. Yeah. So, in this fiscal year, correct? Yes. Would you say the bulk of them are next calendar year?
I'd say about 50 split. Mhm. Um what I had planned to do was some of the roads that were affected by the uh water project, but I still want to have that company that's under contract come in and do their permanent patch and perhaps let
some of those areas settle uh over the winter cuz they're still they're going to settle some more. Um I don't want to put a new road on on that. So, a few a few of those roads uh you know, I would probably like to to tackle in the spring. Everything else um that's
left over for either the state money or the local money I'd like to try to do this, you know, late summer or fall. Okay. I see you have Main Street. Is that basically the first water project as well? Yeah, I'd like to clean that up if that's where I would. Yeah. The um I noticed not South Mson
though. Is that down the road? South Mson is not on here. Uh South Mson. Well, you mean in part of the Scanic Road portion, we're going to do uh the intersection at South Mson, but not
so far. But then they're going to have about uh four or five cross trenches that they're going to do a permanent patch on. And um yeah, you know, but most of the actual work has been done off the road surface.
Correct. Yeah. The main mess is really in the intersection of Scanic and South. I'm hoping their patches will be, you know, um sufficient for long term. Um that road wasn't that old. Mhm. Especially that portion. So,
um, in hindsight, I had kind of hoped or wished that they ran that main up the left hand side of South Mountain so they wouldn't have to go clear across the road for each. Yeah. I was going to ask that question, but
you mentioned it. Why in the world did they I don't know. I don't know. Put in four speed bumps for us. Yeah. Mhm. What's HMP and HM? and crossed on going up past.
Yeah. They went up the west side instead of east side. What's HMP and HM? HMP is just my abbreviation for highway maintenance paving account. Okay. And then HM is um highway maintenance account. Okay.
So, one's a paving um and then I'll have a little a little in my highway maintenance that I can use for things such as small small uh fees such as like uh traffic control, stuff like that. Most of these seem pretty straightforward. The only one I would
have a question about would be the South Road Bridge. You know, in terms of timing, you hope for this to be next year, but it's a state project, which means it could be 2036, right? Yeah. Well, I'll tell you. So, long
story short, we lost our our main engineer on that project from VHB. we finally got reconnected with the new team. Um there was some back and forth as to uh you know what the new what the updated uh towns portion would be for this project and
that was I want to say that was in the early spring and it was a certain number. It was 115 to to the best of my memory. Brian, Brian and I were on a meeting uh with them and it, you know, it just kept going up and up and up and finally when we got
this new team together, we we met a couple weeks ago and and I said, "Look at I mean, give us a projected price of what this is going to cost and we need to have a timeline of, you know, how this is going to happen." So, they're looking to bid
that project this fall and to start construction in the in the spring. And honestly, I think if I I think that that's a pretty good schedule. I I I honestly see that happening.
Okay. I could be back here in the spring eating my words, but I really do I think they they want to get this rolling, too. I mean, okay. Um, there's no way we could have a nebulous borrowing amount, you know. You know, so that that new number that
233 that includes a that includes a contingency and I for sure I know I sent that along, but I I can't maybe it was 10%. Mhm. But um so that would be the the town's
uh responsibility. they would pay the first 500,000 and then we would um I mean not that we're not grateful that the state is giving us half a million towards the bridge thing kind of got it and of the three bridges we've identified this is probably number two
that needed to be done. Sure. Right. As opposed to rockundy which is in fine shape. But uh one last thing when I was when I did meet with our state aid engineer I had asked about the possibility of
tableabling tableabling rockundy and maybe shifting focus onto Main Street. Focus meaning like the tips because they're using a tips program for Rocket Dundy on our behalf when we didn't even ask for it. I
know. But um in our opinion, Main Street is is higher priority. Higher priority. He disagreed. Uh I know because they don't want to I want to say it would look bad to that they made a mistake if you want.
Well, you know, you know, because they were the one that brought it up and if they all of a sudden pulled it back, it'd be like saying that Yeah. Well, we know what it is saying, right? So well it was more reason you know the the main reason was uh the proximity to
state line and tours and so on and so forth was was you know considered higher priority in their eyes. Okay. Um so unfortunately we'll keep looking for a funding source for Main Street but Mhm.
And I had no update on I did not get an update yet on on Rocket Dundy when I reached out. No, I know. Well, they need another 50 people for the Zoom call next time. You needed two monitors for as many people as they had on that call. Not Mark, right? 70 70 something people.
Yeah, that's so you know like everyone was a box. If you think Brady Bunch was like Okay. So, so you'd like the board Does anybody have a question about the the uh
No. Okay. So, what would you do first? Probably the parking lot. Yeah, I'd like to use up the local money. Yeah. Uh we can do that for sure. There was a parking lot and a couple side streets over right around the corner actually. Um I think that would work out well. And then
I'm sorry. Did you ever have a chance to look at the parking lot at Green Meadows and just I know you and I talked about it and didn't really see anything that led to a warrant question per se, but the potentially could be some crack
filling or something like that. And now would be the time to address before school starts. You know, I I was in there and it was a while ago. Um I didn't I didn't end up getting back over there, but I can and I will. Um, when I was there, I I didn't see the
need for um what was the what was the warrant or what was it was 35 to fix the parking lot and put a fire road in 35k. Okay, let me look. I'll look. And again, I'm over there for readaloud
and obviously near next door and I just didn't see anything. You've probably been there and I just didn't see anything in the parking lot that needed a thing. There's no big pothole. There's no degradation. TWWB, what about TWWB? That's different. I mean, that's that's a pretty note.
That's a big number that you're looking at, you know, down. TWWB was around uh I I priced that out for a mill and fill only. Um 280. It was like it it was like 2 230 to 260. Yeah. Um you know, and then we probably have
some drainage upgrades. Um so yeah, maybe up around the 280. Yeah. Uh and then lines and then you know Yeah. I mean it's unfortunate that
maybe in retrospect, Don, we might have made the the water article inclusive of road repair, you know. So therefore, we could have used the money in the road project for something else. But on the other hand, that
you're paying for it one way or the other, right? I'm not sure like you know state money would cover something like that. So that would be a good project to you know um if maybe next year if we can if I do end up getting the the uh 250
local money I'd be able to put that right into that. Right. So even when you talk about the state aid the chapter 90 the fair share rural roadway all that stuff is under the chapter 90 umbrella. It is. It is
now except for rural rural roadways. They they've done away with that now. And that's where all the confusion had come up. So this was a one time the one Well, it wasn't a one time. It's just they're not fun. Yeah. So he had asked that we petition our state legislators
um to to re um you know reopen that program. So what's the call that we got? Nine. Everyone knows Yes. So, between state funding and local
funding, you have almost a million, correct? $990,000 to allocate to paving projects this year. Correct. Some will be rehabbing the roads from the water district upgrade and expansion.
Uh the senior center uh parking lot, correct? Some side streets including Green Leaf and Brian Court. Yeah. And of course, we're always fluid. Something might happen and you might be back saying, "Okay, you know, the drain
just collapsed on this road. We're going to need $50,000 to fix it." Absolutely. Right. Yeah. Okay. And I will, you know, I will make uh make an addition to this list to
uh reflect the extra money and I'll send that in. Great. Okay. Motion to approve uh the list as sub submitted by the highway superintendent. Can make this work. Make a motion to approve the 2025 uh
construction project schedule. Back in. All in favor. Mark. Good luck. Thank you very much. Make sure that make sure the checks clear before you spend the money on the state. Okay. Yeah. Make sure they pass it. Yeah. Well, that's the other. Yeah,
they're very late this year. Did you need me for anything else? I didn't know. Uh, no, I think we're good. Okay. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Have a good night. Be good.
All right. Uh, hiring update and I'll turn that over to the town administrator. Hiring update. First position we are looking to fill is the part-time accountant position. We had the advertisement out for about
three weeks. I think we had a total of 16 applications. Four candidates were interviewed Tuesday and Wednesday of last week. Uh, the interviews were conducted by myself, the treasurer, collector, and assistant collector. And uh we have a recommendation to the
board if you want to hear it. Just say no. Well, you already spent the time on it. You might as well. Um so unanimous recommendation of the hiring team is for the board to offer the position to Elise the contingent on a favorable reference and background check to be conducted by the town
administrator. Did you have an opportunity to discuss uh salary, wages? um only what was listed in the so she was familiar with what the app the advertised range was etc. Yep. It was listed in the job
advertisement. Can you tell us a little bit about her? Sure. Has extensive accounting experience in the private sector for many years. Um some with a
quite large international corporation. um took time off from work to uh be with uh or to do some family stuff. So, they're looking to get back uh into to the workforce. Um the part-time
position uh seems appropriate. I'm not concerned that they're looking for something full-time um and accepting part-time because there's nothing else. uh they live uh in a nearby town. So I think it's within like a they're in
within a 20-minut drive. Um I did inform them that of the resources available so that they can become uh proficient in municipal accounting which is a little different than uh private sector accounting
but I think overall the uh their attitude and demeanor is going to be a good fit for the the town hall staff here. Yeah. And how many hours is it going to be? Um, so we listed it as 15 to 20
and we think that would be appropriate uh for the level of work that's required. We don't see this position going full-time uh in a long long long time if ever because our our our our budget and our work is
is semi-fixed. So, and this is a mix of remote and on-site. Um my or your hope is um it's we definitely want at least, you know, one full day of on-site. M um but my understanding is that they
would be looking to do uh two if not all the time in the office 2 days or 3 days in the office. Good. Which I think is important because it I think it's better for staff.
We emphasize that that um whether it's 8 hours or 16 hours, having a consistent time where staff can come and ask questions in person is important. So Okay. And you still got Susie, of course. Y
um is is is Cliff going to what is the start date? Uh that's something that we'll have to talk about. They don't have uh the candidate doesn't have a pre-existing employment commitment, so they're flexible in that sense. I'll
have to I would like some overtime uh overtime overlap with with Cliff and the uh the incoming talent accountant so Cliff doesn't have a hard date. I know he wanted to get precash certified, but I don't believe that's been done yet. All right. I move approval of the town
administrator and the hiring committee's recommendation to hire a lease. Is it lease demon? Yeah. as Tom accounted subject subject to uh reference check and uh the agreeing and I wait second
all in favor I I thank you right next position that we advertised was for the town facilities manager uh this position was advertised around the same time period uh we had a total
of 29 applicants interviews were offered to seven candidates five accepted interviews four actually showed up to the interview. Um the four obviously got lost in the building cuz it's so huge. Yeah. Uh four candidates were interviewed uh
last Wednesday and last Thursday by myself uh Chairman Flynn and Mark Langoni highway superintendent. Um and the unanimous recommendation of the interview group is for the board to offer the position to Herb Foley
contingent on favorable reference and background check to be conducted by the town administrator. So we did have um some good candidates and one of the things that did sway us obviously for Mr. fully is the the knowledge he brings to the position. And
with the short window we have with our aggressive schedule getting over there, it's important that Brian has somebody who's already intimately familiar with the building and he can delegate something to rather than having to babysit a new person coming on. And that
was kind of critical. Uh, the other thing he was pretty forthright in saying he was not planning on making this a short-term thing. He planned on making this, if you will, even the rest of his career. So, that does speak to me. I
mean, I'm looking for pick up somebody who's going to be there for a year and then move on. That doesn't help the town at all. And does he understand the the funding situation? Oh, we touched on that. Yeah, we had a discussion about that. I will I will make it uh quite clear my
discussion with him about and in the uh offer letter what the what the details of that would be. I move approval of the recommendation of the first of whatever what are you oh your town administrator and the hiring committee for the facilities manager Mr.
fully contingent upon background checks. Second. All in favor? I I crank for new people and then uh quick reviews that we do here. The assessors are working aggressively on replacing the chief assessor.
Quick update on the uh chief of police search. Um so the deadline for priority applications was uh Friday, August 1st. We have received uh responses from 12 interested candidates.
So we'll compile those together and that the first stop the first step with our consultant um is to is to uh narrow that number down so that those 12 down to possibly four or five candidates to send to the assessment center. So that'll be
likely at the next meeting as a topic for discussion. Anything? How's the assessors doing? You said the assessors, didn't you? They're working on it now. Yep. Yep. Well, I lost track. Huh?
Eric's over there like, "Thank God the youth is here." All right. So, um, a blast from the past, Sherry. I thought we would never see this property again. Okay. Ready?
Ready. No. No. What? Go ahead. Suffer on to us, please. So, um, we had a vote at town meeting in 24 to appropriate funds and we presented a plan.
Um, then, um, we, uh, purchased the land, borrowed a lot of money, purchased the land, did all the stuff that we had to do. um and uh turned it over to a realtor. Uh the realtor uh kind of said, "I'm going to have a
lot of trouble. Why don't you switch which lots you sell?" Right? So, we flipped things around to switch it. And it just wasn't going to work out in terms of frontage, etc. So, we went all the way back. So, I said to Dan O'Brien, the surveyor,
"Put everything back the way it was." And for some reason he didn't put it quite back. We kept saying you know put the markers in. We got to see where everything is so she can show it. And uh you know he was busy. He was busy. You know we got to see where it is because
she's showing the property. They want to know exactly where it is. Uh so finally uh when we had an engineer out to get a get a plans ready. Uh I said we really need to have those boats in. And when he put them in we're like what? Um and uh
basically he somehow mis with miscommunication uh thought that we wanted to even out the lots a little bit more um because we you know had had based our assessment on a minimum size. So, um, already we had done the land
exchange with the abuter, um, and she had gone from 10 ft to 25 ft, which kind of pushed it out closer to the sale lot. And he just did some other things. And I said, "Look, you know, uh, the assessor, the, uh, realtor
said, there's no way I can sell this lot the way it is right now." Uh, so I went back to him and I said, "Can you just tweak it a little bit?" Okay. I don't mean to cut you off here, but it sounds like you need Right. It It sounds like you need to revise the ANR, come out with a new ANR, right?
Um, no. No, because it's bigger. I mean, the ANRs are the same. You know, they're both 200 ft. They they both have I understand, but I mean, you're talking modifying the lots. Yeah, it's a very minor modification. I I defer to Okay.
Member Davenport when he said, "What's that got to do with us?" Yeah. Well, we do have a it it is on the agenda for the next planning board meeting, right? So, but if we do that, I guess I'm coming to you to say if we do that modification,
um, which doesn't change things that much, do we have to go through the whole process again? Do we have to go through town meeting approval to because we had a description that was voted on for the town to approve? description was pretty I want to say loose but it was not meets
and bounds by any no description at all. Okay. It was a lot on North Road described as such and such and that was about it. Okay. And if the planning board is saying well this is now that lot for me to say right. Okay. So that I don't have to I was just
I would say I would say no. Brian, what do you think? I was I was trying to look at the Did you see the the newer one? I mean it just kind of makes a slant going back. I I I am I am getting
this reminds me of the what was the other one on the probate one on North. Well, that was his part. That was this one. I know. But I mean that went on for 5 years. So he just makes more of an But you've already done the uh ANR for the extra land to the the butter for their garden
or something like that. Yeah, we we already did a land exchange. Okay. So that we have Oh, that was on the side to the back exchange. Yeah. So that's already done. Gone through and and that's been filed. But basically, he just we're just having him make an angle.
Brian will do some research, but right now off the off the cuff, I don't see why it has to go back. All right. Well, that's slightly less stressful. I'll go I'll go before the uh planning board on the 27th schedule, but I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of it and
it was voted and I just didn't want to get in legal trouble or anything. No, no. Probably see you there anyhow. All right. I know. I know your husband go socks out what article is. All right,
we'll be back on SC. Oh my god, we're four minutes early. Do you want to wait the four minutes or come up early? Whatever you like. Sorry. You want to bring them up early? Sure. Fine. Hey, chief. Come on up.
Still here. You all must be I get up to the board. I can't believe we're usually usually on. Oh, really? Yes. Good evening. Hi. So, I'm here to uh Hey. Hey. Hey, Mr.
Oh, that inter room guy. You never know. My application could be in, right? You don't know. Submit it under somebody else. Yeah. Right.
So, uh I'm before the board tonight to uh discuss the um uh education incentive uh career education incentive. Um when I put together the um buyout for me to be for me to be bought out for my retirement, it included the education
incentive um which was based off of the previous chief's language of his contract, my contract language, which is the same uh and and how he was paid out. So that was included in this fiscal year's budget and was expected to be
paid out to myself on retire. I was made aware that uh I would not be getting that payout. So I was wondering I I wasn't sure if the discussion had ended. Uh a decision was totally made. I know he's asking to reconsider the position that the board had discussed a little
bit about it uh of of um since the prior chief uh very similar to me had had gotten the Quinnville two lump sums in J in July then went on to become chief and be got the education incentive on a weekly basis and then when he resigned
he was paid out um his his Quinn bill which I expected to be done done the same way um considering it possibly a past practice and that's why I included in my payout. Um, so having that said, I was before the board asking for you to
reconsider the position of uh allowing me to be uh paid out for for those for that money. When you when you became you became chief when? 20 March of 2020.
Okay. And then and for March so then you went you went to monthly right? So I went on July 1. In July I had asked to have the same contract as the previous sheep which was a monthly payout. Correct. But for the March April
March April May and June you didn't get weekly. I did not get weekly. No. Okay. Because you were paid retroactively before that. Right. So there was so come July it was paid retroactively correct it well it was paid for the previous
year as as it usually is. So when I got hired in 1994 I forewent the Quinn bill and then continued to get year after year in that 95 so in July of 95 you would get paid
for 94. I hate fiscal years. I know I Yeah. It's it's it's a tough situation. Well, it used to be based on the reimbursements through the state, right? So, it was always the prior year of service. Prior year of the service, right? Right. Okay. And which is the way it is with the current people as well, right?
Correct. Well, we've only got with with the Quinnbill people that are left. Correct. There's only um I think there's two two officers that are left. There's Quinn Bill. The other ones fall under the career incentive change in the contract. So, if they work I'm not too bright. No, no, you no. If I I if if they work from
July 1st, 2023 to June 30th, 2024, they get the Quinn bill payment based on the 23 salary, right? Okay.
So, like Sergeant Cooney who just retired, right? Got his full payout for his last year, right? Last year. If you hire a new guy, he gets the Quinn bill money next year prograded on the year of service,
whatever length it is or the entire year. There's really no explanation in the in the contract, current contract that is. So, we kind of ran into that one of the hirings that came over who had been a longtime Quinnville member in the other agency. According to the contract language, it's in the patrolman's contract we had adhered to.
to anyone prior to 2009 falls in the Quinn bill to be paid the Quinn bill. So he started his Quinn bill and since it's not percentage anymore, it's a flat number. You can't really say it's prorated over a length. Right. Right. Right. Uh but that is changing
because not as many officers out there that have Quinnbill rights as you would say anymore. It's gone to the uh career incentive. Was it 92? 2009. Was it 92 was the last when was the uh end of Quinnbell
error like no say? Yeah. Um I was like Governor Duval had abolished the Quinnel for us. No, I mean when did it change? Okay. Nobody hired after this date is 2009. 2009. Yes. Yes.
It went in in '92, I think. So you were appointed in March of 21. Yes. What happened in July of 21? Did you get So, so according to the payroll records,
I was in I was I was uh given uh my payout based on your chief salary or your patrolman, your salary. At that point, it was percentage. So, it would have been based on a W2 or whatever. It would have been what was in the previous which would have been
office whatever you were paid whatever I was paid off previous times whatever 20% 20% it would been 20% my batch was correct okay right but then instead of waiting till the following year didn't in 21 when you became chief you started getting it
so in July I started getting it right and and and so that was consistent with the previous administration that was in there everything had fell in place and that's why I went ahead and put that incentive in into my into my payout that was budgeted uh with with my pay compared to
my 20%. And so that's why I put it in the um payout expecting to be paid out that that. All right. Let me let me ask you this. If you had a patrol officer who left the
department in January, would they get their Quinn money when they leave or in July? If we had a patrol, so you had a patrol officer who is acrewing Quinn money, if you will, right? And he leaves the department under good circumstances.
So he would get his Quinn bill paid out till from from then till July June June 30th, July 1. He would get he would get the full year of Quinn money. So that's what happened with Officer Elie. He got his payout. He was the one previously that had had a Quinn also. He was a Quinn bill member
and he got his payout inside. He didn't wait till July or No, he had left in in March on his anniversary. I think it was his just after his anniversary day. He left in March and he got paid out for the rest even though he didn't serve the full year, right?
And the previous chief got his Quinn bill payout. He was doing it weekly, but he didn't get the balance. Even though he didn't serve out the balance of the year, right? He got he got his balance. That that seem that seems weird. So you're getting this Quinn/educational incentive
after your year of service. So even if you don't complete the year of service, you get that money. That's the best practice that we've just says because the contract is the compensation based on compensation that's the compensation. But you have to complete the term to get the compensation.
Doesn't say that. Well, see this this goes back to uh yeah the the language of of the contracts that we pre the president of the previous chief. Yeah. And was this included in our employee benefits for this year?
Of course not. Oh, is Quinn the money? Yes. Yes. But it would be unfortunately probably offset by whoever we hire is going to be needing some depending on again uh who whoever we you know hire obviously if it's the Quinn bill or if it's his his career incentive
either way is going to fall under that um gray area that we have for when we pay him also that's July one. So if you hired some we're going to be hiring someone now that is not going to get paid till following fiscal year unless they say hey gosh I want the same thing the last two chiefs got
well yeah no right but then we can negotiate that contract but you can negotiate right exactly exactly what kind of money we talking here we were uh I mean first off the board was willing to go ahead and extend it to September
right based on your interim status so that was in the ignore ignore that month because that was already basically we were good with that. So if we decide to pay out September to June 30th, what type of number is that? So we're up around 22,000.
So you were getting about 25,000 a year in educational. Yes. Well, uh, I'll make I'll make We got the money in there. There's precedent. You've served
the town for 31 years. Uh, where's the art of the deal? Offer him half. Come on. Come on. Stop. Put you do it. Put a tariff on Wilberham. that power coming in from more blend those lines. See, we shouldn't have voted against
those lines. Yeah, we could like tax their power in the contract. Moving forward. I I I'll I I'll move approval of the the uh Quinn Mini payout. What a bleeding heart you are. I am.
All in favor? I I appreciate that. Anything else? Um, what goes the department? What do you think? Do they still listen to you even though you're going interrupt? Um, it's funny that you ask that, right? I've had a few people say they come
inter who who you, right? So, uh, I want to believe that they are, but I think it is less. I still have pretty much the same duties and uh, accountability job that I have. So, I would hope that they would want to listen to me. You know, obviously I have a I have a serious job to do. So, I I do believe so, but at the
end of the day, so what do you what do you think? We should put uh traffic lights, four-way stop and a rotary, a roundabout, telling you the roundabouts. We had gone to a trip to um Aruba a couple years ago
and then at the Cape, a lot of roundabouts are coming into uh intersections like this, man, they work. Um once you learn how to come into it and it's pretty much of a nonstop type of motion that you're Are they going to learn? They can't learn to to freaking slow down and stop at this lap.
No, that that is that's true. We do have to educate. Yes, we have to educate. Uh close down road. It worked great when they were doing the power. It is a tough It's very tough intersection. It really is. I mean, you got a lot of people stopping in the middle uh and they don't know. I mean,
almost, you know, it's almost one of those things is again, signage is everything, right? Yield oncoming traffic. Not no one's paying attention nowadays, but sometimes there are those people that might not have because they don't know where to stop. You watch it all the time. Yield to oncoming traffic or uh something to that effect as we try
to really get down and see what we need to do. They have the roundabouts all over Europe. You know, you've been to Ireland. It's all done the right way. Use the right cut straight across though. They really don't recommend versus traffic light. So I always have
to remember staying the right side of the road there, the correct side of the road. I just have to say with the four-way stop, having lived in town all my life, I'm just afraid the Connecticut people and the Allen will just go womb right through because they never saw it before. And I think you mentioned before
that slight turn is just bit of a dangerous stuff there. Right. The other thing is I go keep going back. The Main Street Summers one in my mind is more dangerous. I tell you, I'm telling you it it it even though you have to come to that
stop and we've had some serious uh crashes there. Uh and the people cutting trying to get out of the gas station and then the Connecticut ones that go around the guy turning onto Main Street and the other person doesn't see him, right? Or they're pulling out a village. You see a lot of congestion now coming out from where the bagel nook is out
into the intersection. It used to only not be the shell. It just seems so much more coming. It's tough having a business right on the streets. Which reminds me, there was a person that came before the planning board. They wanted to do a drive uh quick serve thing where the with the h with that
vacant, you know, that night that nice building in the corner there used to be there. Rosewood used to be there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They want to make that a a quick serve restaurant with a drive up window. And not speaking to that, but I mean
that would obviously traffic impact as well. There's a traffic different than the store that was there before. Although I mean when they had events at the greenhouse, good traffic, but again it wasn't steady. They get there sit for a few hours and then all
and they come out both either East Long Meadow Road or Summers. Well, they did have that option there for going out of both either either both. And they were able to get that on view both ways without having a blind spot which works out well. But to your point, if they did a roundabout flow traffic a little better coming off of
I think so. Yeah. So it wasn't the people coming from Connecticut. It was the people coming from over speed up. Well, that's probably down into town. Well, or Wberham. The worst the worst part of that intersection is turning
left off of Wubberham Road. That's the worst. You know, then the ones who try to get across the ones turning left up at least on metal road know enough to go through the mini mall. They don't come through. True. True. That's if you've been in town. That's you know. Yeah. You know, and then unfortunately the ones at the
main street and summers road go through village and Gary's we used to always get complaints of going through Garry's all first thing in the morning. Like I said the rolling ones the main street and rolling rolling rolling and somebody turning. They don't see the car coming speeding from Connecticut. Yeah. That's and then we just get down to people who
unfortunately aren't really paying attention anymore. Yeah. But again, Bob looked into the roundabout thing before, which could have been a tip project back then, but he the number they were coming up from Ty and Bob was in the5 to6 million range for a roundabout, which was
We might have to We might have to take land there, too. No. Yeah, you would probably have to, right? Our own circle and just paper it. Yeah. I mean, it just seems to be working. It really does. It seems the best. See, Jeff came back. We asked one time about the numbers there were. He
said 53 accidents. And then we found out that the Hen County accidents that were unlabeled were being thrown into Hammond's numbers. I I got to say, you know, when when Mr. Markle had asked about that when I first became chief of the numbers aren't aren't really there. They're not
showing. I mean, a lot of times they're just prior like where the bank is or on Summers Road and a lot of people think it's that intersection. Same as Maiden Summers. Mhm. Uh it might be a little further up or a little more this way and they just automatically go to that intersection or the or the Wilberham Road area. You just had the one on Main Street, the
motorcycle and the car that was on Main Street. No, right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I think there's two on just that intersection we're talking about when the last week too, but that's that that's kind of we're getting them. It's just not the numbers that you know we see. I mean, as
soon as someone sees an accident in that media or once the accident's been displaced and maybe vehicles have been moved or whatever, automatically go to the accident was at the intersection, it there's been countless times where I've hear it, I'll come back and look in the log and go, "That wasn't even at the intersection."
I mean, if we go one thing, it's the line coming out of Dunkin Donuts in the morning. Oh my another another issue. Yeah, absolutely. But, uh, okay. Well, thank you very much. Carry on.
Speaking of that, we have some liquor permits. Nor ordinary one. So, we have a request from the BFW for a purse bingo fundraiser. What is that? Sounds good. Anybody here speak? Anyone ever go to one?
What is it? I have to say I think I I do know it because I know that St. Michaels had one last year for a fundraiser. High end. Oh, like Birkens and stuff and like Michael Kors and
I did see they just auctioned off the very first Birkin thing. What four million or something like that? The guy. It was a lot. It was incredible. Incredible number. Yeah. Okay. Any other one? on a one-day permit for a purse bingo fundraiser on August 15th from 6:00 to 11:00.
AM or PM? Doesn't say p.m. They have another one for a celebration of life on August 30th from 1:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
Didn't say who. And then a family reunion, not the same day. on September 6th from 2:00 in the afternoon to 7:00 p.m. I don't know. Family reunions and alcohol.
How close are this family? That's why I thought it was the same day as a celebration of life. Anyhow, move approval of the three permits for the BFW. Second. One quick question. Warren, why is the um
the purse bingo fundraiser no charge? You told me that you don't usually charge them for BFW related events. Fundraiser. Okay. Second. Second. All in favor? I thank you. All right. Board of Health Don. I have one. I have a disposal works
installers permit. Stallers work polic. This is for Squire Enterprises 583 Summers Road. Please fill out for the installation of sewage disposal system and the fee is $50 and it's been paid.
Check clear. Cash. Really? You said $25 cash. Cash is king. Well, something something. Okay. Motion to approve the uh application. I second. All in favor?
I. You have you have to have the applicant sign this. Hey, anything new on the uh trailer guy? Nothing you heard. I just wonder I asked register because there's another one but it was the one from back a few
meetings ago. Remember there was we had sent the 10day notice. Yeah. Nothing. No update. No one. Okay. No update on the main. There's another one. I thought there was another one a couple weeks ago, too. No, I think it was just the main street one register car thing. I think we're
You know what I'm talking about. There was a second complaint. It It mentioned a couple things about couches and other things like that. Other activities. It was forwarded to the chief of police. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Works. Thank you. Y All right. Any correspondence? Lauren,
any Okay. Again, she's right. I hate it when that happens. It's in your folder. Open your eyes. Make a note. I want to report to the board that last week because you didn't
show up, I signed the warrant for AP for a total of $38,54423 and the warrant for PR for $77,741.34. Don't let it happen again. Anything in there for us? Not anymore. You didn't show up. Anyhow,
that's quickly because with our summer schedule, the board has authorized one member to sign the warrants on the weeks we don't have meetings. So, but it requires reporting back the board. Hey, how much was it? All right. Okay. Now, we're back to real member
reports. I have nothing to report. Nothing to report at all. Nothing to report. Moving right along. Does the town administrator have anything to report? I'll put the brakes on this. I have a motion motion to adjurnn. You said Don what?
Be here a while. Please, please help us out. Dad, let's talk about bids. Okay. Um, so the senior center bathroom renovations,
I have a scope of work from uh Gary and that is going to go out to bid, but those bids should be available on Wednesday of this week. Um there's also uh bid solicit uh bid
solicitation that's out there for uh asbestous abatement at PWB. And what we requested with that is that they give us a price per square foot based upon um there's really three size rooms there 800 ft² 900 ft² and 1,000
ft². They give us prices um for those different classrooms and then we figure out uh exactly which rooms that we want to get done. Those bids are due on the 14th meeting the ones for asbestos abatement at TWWB
and bids for the senior center bathroom renovations will be due on August 21st. We have the energy audit with the regional energy firm that PBPC has contracted. That's going to happen next
Thursday, the 7th. And they're going to look at three buildings to start. They're going to look at TWWB. They're going to look at Green Meadows, and they're going to look at the senior center, at least as an initial starting point. Um, what else?
12 uh August 12th 12:30 the uh Massachusetts Massachusetts Inspector General uh will be visiting Hamen. Oh yeah. I'm going to go to that. So you got to post it. Got to post um to hear about all of our great stuff
we're doing and all the problems that we have with procurement. What time? 12:30. Lunch time. Yeah. I hope they're bringing lunch. It's next week, right? I usually don't have enough to share. So, you're on next 12 at 12:30. My biggest
complaint will be that they haven't raised the thresholds for the different levels of procurement in forever. Um, which makes our pro which makes uh our work slower like having to get bids for amenment.
Mhm. Um, much of last week was was interviews. Um, other things looking forward, I'm working on I'm working with the uh Lori board of health coordinator on uh drafting uh rules and regulations
for the transfer station to try to get those codified. Um, and I think we also be looking at uh uh potential for different fees there. Um we're trying to really uh get the transfer station caught up to a place
where it needs to be in terms of revenue generation compared to expenses especially uh the changes that have happened in in that uh sector of municipal government um are quite expensive in terms of disposal costs and
the recycling market flipping and all of those things. So, you kind of really need to get caught up and push towards making that a solvent venture. That's about it. Other stuff. All right. The other thing um I did say Oh, I forgot something.
Lucy renewables update. Yes, please. Go ahead. I'm just kidding. Oh yeah, and I had a call with a a rep from Lucy Renewables this past week and we talked about the the bonds rule solar project and the it's really a net metering
credit purchase agreement, right? That's 20 year of the town purchases net metering credits from uh the Bonsville solar project. Quick note, it was approved at town meeting too, so not a surprise. um where
there's a built-in 25% uh savings in the purchase of the net medium credits that's capped at a certain uh a certain amount. I think it's about 4% of the generation. Um 20-year agreement, we're in about year 10. Um
I believe that project is currently all all subscribed out. So, um, if we're going to look for other ways to save, uh, money on our, um, electricity cost, it's it's not going to be through that project. No, it's all about that. Back in the
day, they call the host community type thing. You know, remember when uh, Kiby's put in theirs, could we be the host community? We couldn't because they're already subscribed somewhere else and stuff like that. But bottom line is we have a 25% savings. We did need to talk to them about the fact that
the addresses listed in it were changing because obviously we want the savings to go to Thornton Burg's building as opposed to this building which they need to know that which we'll work on. Um the other thing I want to bring up is the talk of the newsletter.
We have a publication date of the scribe for this month to be the 20th. So if we're going to put one page together, which is no problem, we can print that one page. They need it by the 20th to coalate. So, if we could all um
come in some ideas. Nothing says we can't. I mean, it's one page front and back. I can show you. I have all the ones we did before on my computer. A little letterhead, stuff like that. And we had here's a little blurb from the park and recck department. Here's a
little blurb from the library. A little blurb. Obviously, don't need one from the Council on Aging. They've got the whole thing. But I mean, upcoming schedule, um, I think Brian do a little something on where we stand on TWWB, right? Um, upcoming town meeting things. Maybe
the assessors want to give a little something. Maybe Eva wants to put a little something about, hey, I'm mailing out your tax bill. Well, the tax bill, there's a rabies clinic. There's a something, you know, those things she does to make people aware. I will say she probably puts that
in the scribe already, but either way, um, so if we get something together, if we want to get it out there for this for basically September 1st, we've got to get on it now. Okay. So, putting it together, no problem. I've
got people that can do that in a heartbeat. We can even run it. If, as Don said, he wants to include a color picture of the board, I'm not sure that's a plus, but we can print it in color. Good. But that's that's gray and white. I'm
just saying it's not much color. Little brown left. Not much. Gray involved. That's why you're here. Well, yeah. What's up with K? No help. So, um, we have this uh denial here. Is there
anything else to come before that? Why are you here that for the entertainment? For the entertainment. You get to take the cookies home if Eric doesn't want them. Motion to adjurnn. Ladies, it was great to have you here. I know you're usually on Zoom, but thank you for coming down.
Motion to thank you for getting that. All in favor? I I thank you. All right, I'm