echo. Echo echo. >> All set. >> Okay. Good evening and welcome to the pardon me August 18, 2025 meeting of the Hamlin Select Board and Board of Health in the townhouse auditorium. Please
stand for the pledge of allegiance. [Music] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> This meeting is being held live in the auditorium, but also broadcast on Zoom. We are recording the meeting. Is there anyone else recording the meeting besides Kristen from the Hand Times? Yes, it is. All right, we have minutes,
August 4th. We do have to thank our minutes team. You guys, you know, you do a great job with these too detailed. >> I don't know if we have a recap. It's now How was that purse? Bingo. Anybody go?
>> We signed that one day permit. Don, did you make it there? >> No, I did. >> No. Oh, shoot. It was Sophie away. Didn't know if your time was free or you spent a lot of time at the track. >> All right. Good to know. Thank you. >> All right. Brindle man to win.
>> All right. Any comments on the minutes? >> Move approval of the August 4th, 2025 minutes. All >> in favor? I. Thank you. Well, first on the agenda, we had uh some business with uh some retired employees. How we're
waiting for some guests to arrive. So, let's move down the agenda. Next is a grievance complaint from the police department. >> Argie Bon, how are you? >> Good. How are you? Good.
So, you have a grievance. >> We do. >> Many of us do in so many ways. >> I I hear you. I hear you. Um, essentially, it's the uh the uh stipen. Sergeant Cooney was a member of the
department July 1st. It's pretty clearly written in our contract that members have the choice. He selected the stipen and uh it was not paid and and we're looking to have that rectified.
[Music] >> Okay. Do we have a copy of that language, Brian? >> Yeah, it's in the >> be article 19. >> I don't have a copy. >> I have a copy. Oh,
>> I'm looking for the pull. More of a pull. Oh, yeah. There we go. All right. So, is it your position that the A, B, C, D, you're only talking about the A part, but the B, C, and D don't apply?
>> The BC, CC, and D were for the draw accounts, not the stipen. Stipen was a onetime paid on July 1st. We discussed in negotiations that officers could use it towards whatever they deemed uh whether it be cell phones, watches,
that's why we gave up >> applicable to their work. >> Correct. But even even during the conversations, negotiations, we discussed them being able to replace their cell phones, Apple watches if they were damaged or whatever the case may be
because we use them on duty. That was part of the reasons why we gave up the cell phones that the town supplied that and the lack of use of them. So, it was kind of a win-win for everybody. Um, we felt >> Okay. So it's your thought though that
this would be or things that were done during the work time between July 1st and June 30th >> from the previous year or whatever it could be >> of that year of this year or >> previous year. >> You think it's this is reimbursement for prior years? >> Well, typically with even with the
clothing line all we're replacing >> gear that we've had that's worn out from the previous year. So we buy it on the July 1st. I don't I know Chief Trombly felt it was from July to or excuse me, uh July 1st to June 30th. Um but that's that was never discussed. That was never
part of the stipulation. It was just part of the payment of when it occurred, >> which is why we put the July 1st date on it. >> Um because on July 1st, you can take it and do what you need to do with it. So it was never there were never any
stipulations put on it. done. >> So you're you're saying that the money July 1st is for purchases made from July 1st, 2024 to June 30th, 2020. No, to
June 30th, 2025. >> No, what I'm saying is on July 1st, we can take the $1,500 and replace whatever equipment we need. That's that's so whether it's equipment we want for going forward or equipment replacing we're replacing from the previous 10 years of
service. >> Yeah. So I guess what I'm saying so whether you equipment going forward the person's not working forward in the police department and if it's to replace equipment past the person's not working any longer in the police department.
Again, when when we when we created this, we created the stipen specifically for people like Sergeant Cooney who didn't have to spend $1,500 on specific equipment. It could be replacing whatever the case may be. That's why we gave up. That's why we bundled
everything from the cell phone. If you recall when we negotiated from the cell phones and everything else, and we just said the stipen, use it at your discretion. There's no receipts required. It was a It was a uh
stipen to use at your discretion without receipts. That's what we discussed and agreed upon. It's the same difference if you're issuing personal days on July 1st. You're not planning on using them. You get cashed out on them or whatever other benefits.
That's why people always wait after July or after their their uh anniversary date to retire. Same thing with vacation days. You're not. >> No, vacation is a a benefit that was earned in the prior year.
>> I would argue this is a benefit that we >> It's been that way in private business forever. Same thing. But >> on July 1st, I get $1,500 to do what? >> Whatever you wanted with the statement. That was what we discussed. Whatever
they felt they need to re replace, whatever equipment they needed to be replaced or whatever the case may be. That's what they That's what why we did the stipen, >> I guess. So, so if if if you're not going to be a police officer anymore, what equipment do you need to be
replaced or what uniform you need to be replaced? I guess that's my >> Well, that was never a a stipulation of it. We didn't say if you're retiring this year, you don't get it. We never said if if so whether he retires on July 5th or he retires December 30th, whatever the case may be, what where's
where's the line? We never we never established. >> Well, the line is for Well, the line is it's for a specific purpose, >> and that purpose no longer exists if you're no longer a police officer. >> Worked for >> I know it's only 1,500 bucks. But >> I understand. I mean, he worked for 4 days. He could have done whatever he
wanted. >> He was on vacation those four days. >> Doesn't matter. You still Just because you're on vacation doesn't mean you can't go out and buy whatever you need. if it was >> for vacation, >> whatever the case may be, you know, it's it's we never put a stipulation on for
what it was >> for what we uh >> all right >> what it was used for. >> I mean, maybe in the future we might want to look at that in negotiations and break it up and try >> I think we will. >> Well, no. I listen I I I understand
there's some I I can see both sides I guess is is what I'm saying but I understand at this point in time I was asked to bring this forward I did um I think it's pretty clearly written in the contract if we want to change that going forward to make it a little more fair maybe break
it up you know break it in two or or you know July 1st December 1st there's always there's always uh you know I'm definitely willing to look at that and try to make it as as uh fair for both sides as possible. But at
this at this particular junction, it is what it is. I think it's written out >> um so you have A, B, C, and D here. D says receipts must be turned to the chief as promptly as possible to receive reimbursement. Is that done?
>> He's saying that he's saying there are two different choices. If you've used the draw, then B, C, and D apply for draw usage. >> Correct. >> If you don't take a SP, >> which is I think I know you weren't on the board when we negotiated it, but when we negotiated the drug, the stipen,
>> we had agreed that there were not to be receipts turned in. It was just because it gets cumbersome tracking everything. >> We agreed to >> Sure. >> Yeah. I think u I think what we're seeing here, there's a bit of ambiguity here. >> Yeah. Um but enough ambiguity that my
opinion I think there is a bit of an obligation because of the ambiguity to issue the 1500. I think you know there's a it's >> there's room >> and there's room for improvement
but >> for now >> again this is what we weren't >> we weren't thinking of people retiring we were thinking of >> course >> them using it for this >> always exceptions >> right >> again every time we write something it
can be interpreted several different ways and and once an issue comes up like this maybe we address it too or come up with um clearer language, >> right? >> I think the intent was >> All right. So, we have a grievance. We
would need a a motion and a vote. Are we going to uphold or deny the grievance? So, the to uphold the grievance would be to issue the basically reimburse the or issue $1,500 for and that would be upholding the
grievance. I'll make a motion of either way to deny the grievance or uphold the grievance to uphold. >> I motion uphold the grievance and I I agree with that motion to uphold my >> lock. Yeah. Second.
>> All right. We have a motion to uphold the grievance filed by the police union. All in favor? >> I >> I >> No. You you seconded forward this bas. >> Oh yeah. Okay. >> So just to be clear, he'll be paid the
1500. I just want to make sure I'm understanding that correct. >> Y Don's in charge, but I think it's a dollar a week. All >> right, Don. >> Better deal with these and cheat you out of it. >> I agree. >> Appreciate it. Thank you very much. All
right, they all show up yet. There we go. What else we got? >> Well, we might as well since we still do not have Hard to believe the state is late, but let's move on. >> We have Parks and Wreck to talk about a vehicle.
>> Yeah. >> Already up at the table, so let's go. >> Yeah, I'm ready to roll. >> Um, >> got a PowerPoint. >> No PowerPoint today. >> No DVD, nothing. >> Nothing. >> Damn, this is like informal. >> Unexiting. Unexited. >> Um, >> I want to make a point. Uh, I was down
at the park with the grandchildren a week or so ago and I got to tell you that place is stunning. >> Stunning. I I compliment Steve Bennett and his staff down there and just man been down there for decades and it looked terrific.
>> I'll pass that to him. He's doing a great job. Um, we so re one of the things we used to keep that car looking so great is the truck and unfortunately the truck is not doing very well. Um, it's a 2008 Ford
F250. It only has about 66,000 miles on it, but it paid for a number of years. It predates me being here in September of 2023, so I don't know exactly when parks and wreck acquired it or shared it with um we were sharing it for a time with the highway department. Um it has
was leaking. So we took it in to get an estimate on repairing a leak to Corby's and um it was found that the body and bed is rusted so poorly that the bed could just fall off. Steve has wedged some 2x4s in there to keep it on. Um
it's leaking coolant. Transmission leaks. All the transmission lines need to be replaced. Uh there's oil leaks and in order for those oil leaks to be repaired, the engine needs to be removed. Obviously, that's a costly process. Um, the approximate estimate to
get this truck back into safe driving standard, I guess, would be about $4,000. I did a quick Kelly Blue Book value on the truck. Um, that doesn't put in any of the damage that I just discussed with you, and the value was about $9,500. The
truck's not worth it. I wouldn't say the truck's probably worth the $4,000 to put into it. So, in my eyes, it's not smart to invest more money in this truck that is on its way out. Uh, so I'm here to kind of find out
about my options for what to do with this vehicle. You know, normally I think we trade vehicles in and get a new one. I'm not sure that parks and w necessarily needs a new vehicle um to to operate, but we do need a vehicle. So, um, I'm here to kind of find out about
selling that vehicle, scrapping that vehicle, donating that vehicle, what we need to do as town property in order to move this vehicle onto wherever it's going to go. And then I have a follow-up question about um a pol does the town
does the town have a policy for purchasing units? So, that's I think where we need to live is purchasing something probably with high miles. We don't put a ton of miles on, but we do need a vehicle, a truck to move mulch, do all the things that we
need to do. Trailer if we need to. Um, so I'm just kind of here on a fact mining mission about how we should proceed with this. >> Well, one thing I would say is we appreciate you bringing forth in front of us, you know, that you're having
difficulty with it. I was here when the vehicle was transferred from the highway department. pretty good shape at that point. But it is distressing that you're seeing this type of thing with obviously a Ford with only 60,000 miles on it. Um
I would say the typical thing we would do, we would discuss with the highway superintendent what the next vehicle in his fleet just like we did with this one. >> I had I had a discussion with Mark. >> Oh, um I reached out to him. He right now, his oldest vehicle is the one that
Ed uses the trailer to mow all the fields in town or all the grass in town. Um I asked him is that something that you're looking or thinking about getting rid of. He said no, it's a perfectly perfectly operational vehicle that we're using. So from my discussion with Mark, he doesn't have anything in the fleet
right now that he'd be willing to pass down to us. >> Well, I appreciate you doing that for us. Um so I'm I'm sorry. So Ed uses for mowing. Ed trailers like he mows the front of TWWB, he mows the sides of Memorial Park, he mows along the road,
he mowes this building. So he trailers that mower around with that truck, >> the highway truck. >> With the highway truck, >> right? Yeah. >> Their oldest truck, >> right? >> So anyhow, Brian will reach out to him as well. We'll talk about that. Uh we have a pretty I would say some big issues coming in
the fall for, you know, expenditures. could possibly be something for next spring looking for a new vehicle. You know, I think your point that maybe it's not a full-time vehicle for you, but is there an opportunity for another
pass down type thing? Uh I don't think the expense, if you're saying it's only 4,000 to get it up and running, how much over the winter do you actually use that truck? Um, well, we have to have a discussion with Mark about possibly plowing the
road up to the raw and that that has not been done. And we had some quick discussions last year about that. I guess there is a plow that fits that truck that's available. And so we'd be positive if Mark doesn't want to plow that raw building because people walk up it, it gets the water runs down, it gets very icy and slippery. It needs to be
plowed. Um, but that's not in his normal routine of plowing. So if we were going to do that, we would use the truck for that in the winter. Um, other than that, it's for purchasing supplies and Home Depot and things like that during the winter. >> So, a lot less usage in the winter than
obviously during season. >> Yeah. >> Right. Okay. >> So, if there's no opportunity to provide a new truck, you know, until next summer, is it worth
putting the repair money into it? Not for my budget. >> I understand that. Say it wasn't your budget. Is it worth repairing it to get it to >> uh $4,000 for 9 months time of a vehicle? Doesn't seem
fiscally responsible to me, but somebody else >> Well, it depends how much life it brings to it. >> And this $4,000 this is just fixing the oil leak or this is also repairing to bring it up to hear the bed rust and all that. Put new ped Okay.
Are they doing any kind of rust remediation with the framework as well or is this just repairs? >> This was just the repairs. >> How much I thought we had a pretty good uh warranty where you're buying things, but there's none of that transmission stuff that's under a thousand 100,000 mi warranty.
>> 2008. So, you're going to have a run out on a 100,000 milei warranty anyway. It's going to expire after seven years or whatever. Um, so >> that's pretty good. 2008 only 60,000 on it. Good usage. >> Purchasing used vehicles though. What's
our policy on that? >> Yeah, we don't have one at this point. We've never done that. So, >> the only used thing we got was probably that trailer you guys picked up. So, hey, Cliff. >> All right. Well, thank you for bringing it to our attention. We'll do some
research on our part. We're gonna talk to Marcus. Well, it's something we need to help with him. >> Hi, Cliff. All right. Here still my buddy.
>> Hiring and personnel update. Got him. [Music] >> Just the escort. [Music] [Applause] >> Is there an escort for the senator? Is
that it? Yeah. Maybe that's it. >> Or do you want to just take something else? Maybe the uh >> Yeah, let's do something else quickly. >> Oh, really? Okay. How about the uh Concom people? I have that discussion. Do we have time for that?
>> Tom, I think >> are they coming or no? >> Tom Paige is supposed to come in but seven. So >> appointment slips. >> What about the TWWB update? >> No, we have no time for that. >> There. Who's here?
>> I don't see what are we waiting for. >> They're probably downstairs in our office. went through security. >> All right, TWW update. Go ahead. >> Um, last week I walked through the building. We had an energy audit with
NV5, uh, hired as the town's regional energy manager. Um, I expect those results to come back probably this week or next week. um they're looking at all aspects of of of the building, mechanical and um
energy conservation opportunities. So hopefully we'll hear back from them. Um as you know, many of the classrooms in TWWB have uh 9x9 vinyl tiles which have uh small percentage of asbestos in it,
but they need to be remediated. Um, so we put out a bid to remediate five classrooms. Um, these won't these numbers won't mean anything, but E8 to E4, it's if you walk in to the right, I
walk in the main entrance to the right, it's those immediate five classrooms. Um, and I I requested bids for those classrooms together and also a unit price for any of the classrooms are standard size either 800, 900 or,000.
So, I have those I received bids back at the end of last week and I want to talk those over with uh with our facilities manager um before moving forward on that. Uh the low bid, the low price was 24
uh 24,000 and some change for five for those five classrooms. >> All right. But are you thinking that they're not the only classrooms with the problem or >> um they're certainly not the only classrooms with the problem, but they're they're that's the area of the building where the floors are in the in in the
worst condition. So I I see this as as something we'll we'll have to phase over a period of time >> like the school does. >> Yep. Exactly. >> All right. >> But I mean it gets into, you know, the ease of getting to them, you know, while
after we've moved in, you know, on top of things. Uh >> Yeah. >> I mean, especially when you're talking, >> so you're taking care of the library ones and the a couple of office ones. >> Yeah. In my discussions with the with the vendors, they they mentioned that
um when you do classrooms that are together, it's one containment unit. So, it's there's significant cost savings to do it that way. So, >> and I'm thinking about that back hallway that park and rec wants to use, but I'm not sure if they really have their programs together for they they just
wanted those three classrooms a bit for future right now. >> Yeah, I didn't have those as a as a as a top priority. >> Okay. But then the middle hallway thing where that's town clerk or >> Yeah, those are in fairly good condition. Those are those four classrooms are probably
>> the best >> probably the best condition. Yeah. >> All right. Um obviously security, you know, the door locks, stuff like that coming forward. You're reaching out to Valley and >> No. >> Yep. Valley Communications for the the electronic access and the uh security
cameras. Um, if we want to do the zoning, as we talked about with three different zones based on building usage, we would need to install uh two interior doors >> in two different hallways. Um, so I would ask the facilities manager to look at that and uh get a price for that as
well. Um, the only other things would be uh really aesthetic things like painting, replacing ceiling tiles. Um, there's some minor there's I think there's a little a minor electrical
Um and then some uh cabinet installations if uh the different departments or offices want some types of service counters. >> But in talking with the facilities manager today, it's probably something that we can we can handle internally and just move existing cabinets around and
maybe just buy countertops. >> I know it used to be and years ago Mass Mutual was always like trying to get rid of their stuff. Is there any value to see what they have out there? cuz we have a lot more floor floor space to fill than we're moving over.
>> Yeah, we I I am exploring one option with uh one of the movers reached out to me um and they were going to receive a donation from a u an office an office move >> and they were going to have uh excess furniture that seemed to be in pretty
good condition, but I haven't heard back on that yet. Right. >> But if if you have connect if someone has connections over there, I'd be happy to reach out. Okay. Um obviously the other conversations that like we had the staff mean that everybody is on board with our time
frame and plan and you're efforting that at this point and we're going to have I guess a conversation at our next meeting to make sure that everybody understands we're all working together. >> Yeah, I think I think that would be good. Um we never we never set a
specific date. We were always thinking the October November time frame. Mhm. >> Um, again, the big step that was taken was the hiring of the facilities manager, >> right? >> Who can give us a realistic timetable for for what we want to accomplish. >> Um, and then we can move forward from
there. And since that's that'll be accomplished, well, he's been hired, but he's going to start um >> early September, we'll have a better idea of nailing down a date. >> Okay. Who's reaching out to Selco to see if they want a quote on over there? Would that be Herb or would that be you,
Lauren? Uh, I would ask I would ask the facilities manager to do that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> We have to figure out, do we need them to still come in here once a month, every other month, or is that I don't see a need for it, but a need probably for Herb to come in to make sure things are still, you know, copet, no leaks,
stuff like that. All right. >> Yeah. And in terms of in terms of building insurance and things like that, we should have some minor presence so that it's not a vacant building. Then it gets into a lot of different
other issues. >> The thing we didn't know is the chief on the agenda. Huh. >> I don't like they're busy and Oh. All right. >> Oh, okay. Here they are. >> Sent you the map, Ryan. I see you got
it. Okay, good. >> All right. Right on time. Is that it for TWWB? >> Yeah. >> All right. Great. Okay. Next, we have um actually one of the good things that happens with this
job um citations and awards. Uh, I can recall one of the in my many years here, I think one of the best things that we ever did was, and Brian, you probably remember in your time, Eagle Scouts and that type of thing. You know,
>> on the other side is the dog earrings. You know, those are high to the low. Um, so I'd like to invite up to the front Jane, >> Michael, >> Cliff,
>> and our representatives. >> Ah, Jesus. Okay. >> He's put in a long day. Long day. >> Doesn't look >> Brian and Jake. It doesn't look like it. >> You want us to go >> up here, please. We're all We're all neighbors. >> Doesn't look like there's anything. >> No, no. The rose between two thorns.
You're right in the middle. Please. >> Where were you at the parade? >> Where was he? >> That's a given. How >> are you? Good to see you. >> Congratulations. you. Good to see you.
>> Good. You found your way back. You found your way back to town, Mike. That was great. >> So, >> who we doing now? >> So, what we have here is uh just for people on the thousands of people on on Zoom. Um the town's been fortunate over years to have people that have really
dedicated their lives to serving the town as neighbors. And I have three individuals in front of me right now that I'm proud to call friends and friends to everybody in town, you know. So, we have, let's go in order of seniority. Cliff Bombard has served the
town accountant for almost 50 years. Cliff >> 53 years, >> you know, never a dime out of place. My gosh, he has been he has been commended by the state for accuracy, for the free cash, just doing a a terrific job. I
can't believe he's finally stepping down. Seriously, you know, you were here when dad was here just, you know, >> I think did >> he hired he hired you >> and I'm letting you go. Sorry. Uh, also then we have I'm going to go
Mike Cooney. Kid grew up in town, you know, just uh I think you know, you're on the other side of the hill from us, I think. Right. Exactly. Yeah. >> Yeah. You used to hear him shooting pebbles on the thing. Whatever. I'm kidding. Uh, but just a kid who grew up
in town and gave brought service back to Hampton really. And anybody, this is going to sound weird, anybody who was ever pulled over by Mike knew he wanted to find out why first. How can I help you? And he was the
embodiment of community policing, which was great because, you know, he learned from some of the guys, George Stone, etc. It's like, find out how I can help you first and not be busting you, right? >> And I think you lived that and I want to thank you for what you've done. >> Welcome. My pleasure.
>> Thank you. Um, then we have Jane, the kid in the group. You know, boy, along came Jane. Jane also grew up in town, you know, just a good friend of mine from from the get-go and so many
hats she wore in town. I just can't I can't thank you enough for all you've done. You've been a friend. One thing we always knew when somebody came into the town hall, Jane was first and she pretty much knew everybody that walked in. Like my my grandmother used to be chairman of
the board of registars knew everybody that voted and hey you came earlier last year like oh my gosh when does it end? >> Although you didn't vote the right way. >> You would mention that too. >> I think so too. Here take this one. It's already filled out for you.
>> I just put it in the thing. >> Good old days. Thank you. Thank you. Stay rep. But again, Jane, I don't think uh I think everybody in town, we talked about this at the at the uh the town meeting, and I don't know what happened to those golf
clubs. We promised you, but we all miss you already. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. So, we have a couple of people here. Jake, >> Ryan, >> you know, and let's start with the senior senior person.
that would be you sure that's too >> that's what they told me. >> Thank you. >> Um thank you uh John. Thank you uh select board. Um these are the fun parts of the job when you get to recognize people for the work they've done um for everything they put back into the the
town, the community that they lived in. So it's an honor for myself and uh Senator Ala to be here to support you three. And I I know also the chief could not make it tonight's also retiring. Um but on behalf of the House of Representatives, I know the senator also
do on behalf of the uh the Senate, but we wanted to present you citations from the House of Representatives, thanking you, congratulating you um for your works, for your years of service, for everything you've given back to the community and more importantly wish you
all the best for whatever you do for the next 53 years, whatever you're going to be doing, Cliff. Um, but these are the really special moments. Um, >> you know, you put your your heart and soul into jobs, especially when you when you uh work in a community or you live
in a community, you get to know everybody here. It's sometimes it's easy to leave jobs. Sometimes it's a little tougher when you when your heart's there and you have the passion. See, Jane, I know it's just because I'm here, you're getting emotional, but it happens a lot. My wife cries every
time I come home. Um, no. >> Right off the rails right there. >> Yeah, let's edit that part. Um, but on behalf instead of reading each one, I I'll I'll read one for all three of you.
Um, be it hereby known to all Massachusetts House representatives, offers a sincerest congratulations to Cliff, Jane, Mike in recognition of your 53 23 22 years. 30
>> 34 you know how long you worked here. You were here the numbers guy. >> But um the entire membership extends its very best wishes. hope for future good fortune, continued success in all your endeavors. But on a personal note, thank
you so much for everything you've done. Thank you for all that you've given back to the community. Um, and I wish you all the best in everything that you do. And this cliff, this is yours. Congratulations. Thank you. Suitable for
refrigerators >> and not magnetized, >> Jane. Thank you. >> Oh jeez. >> Did we do that? No, we didn't kiss her. No. >> Thank you. >> On behalf of the Massachusetts Senate, I
will say I am a numbers guy and collectively you have over a 100red years of service to the town of Hamden, not even including the chief. Uh so that's pretty impressive for a town like this that has dedicated people working
for it to ensure that essential functions of government operate. Now, Brian and I both served in local government before we got to the legislature. We know how hard it is in local government because you're the first line of defense, the closest to
the people. And so, when there is an issue in town, you're probably going to hear about it. It's not going to take long. And since you came from this town, you grew up in this town, you know how important it is that personal touch. Um, Michael, I'm you've never pulled me over
in town. Um, I have a goal of getting over in all 12 of my towns. So, it'll have to go to another handful. >> You heard that? >> Yeah. So, you see me speeding through coming through and uh and you know it is I was actually coming back today and the
pike was horrible. So, thank you for your patience and moving this a little bit. >> How's that east west rail thing? >> Well, not today, let me tell you. There was no east west rail today. In fact, the hike was shut down basically from Stirbridge to Palmer. So I snaked my way
through Sturbridge, the Brimfields, Mson. So it was a long journey today to get back and going in was just as bad. So >> yeah, but you slow down for no reason. >> No reason, right? >> But anyways, on behalf of the
Massachusetts Senate, just congratulations to all three of you for your dedicated service to the H town of Hampton. Brian and I have the pleasure of representing this community. It is not my smallest community in my district. In fact, Warren is smaller, so it is not the smallest community.
However, it does have an outsized presence because of the people that are in this community. And I just want to thank all of you due your service to the town. Starting uh first with Cliff, and I'll read this similar to Brian. Be it known that the Massachusetts Senate hereby extends its congratulations to
all three of you in recognation of your dedicated commitment and stewardship of the town of Hampton. and be it further known that the Massachusetts Senate hereby extends its best wishes for continued success that this citation be duly signed by the president in the senate by me your state senator and by
our clerk. Congratulations to all three of you. Have a long and fruitful retirement. My dad who was also a municipal employee, a teacher in Lello, just retired this summer as well at 77. Um even though he didn't spend his entire career in in Lelo um he spent it
in different uh communities around here. Uh the commitment that that people have to their community is unmatched and we see that in full display in all of the communities that we represent. But congratulations to all three. >> Okay. >> We would be uh quickly we would be
remiss not to say we also had every intention to present citations to Chief Trombly. >> Yeah. >> He's on a welldeserved vacation today. Okay, good for him. He'll be back. He's serving as our interim chief right now. >> But this was the opportunity to have
Jake and Brian here today. And we certainly do acknowledge the service that Scott gave the town as well. >> Jane Jane just said, she said, "Tell my mom." I said, "Hello." I said, "You just missed her." She was in the parking lot because I couldn't make it back to Lello to get the citation. So, she met me
here. And yeah, I should have brought her. is how to drive them here >> and we had to learn >> you know well no it was all those speeding tickets that I >> All right so right now >> now we thank you okay everybody thank you
all >> we can then we're going to have some cake Lauren made this cake over the weekend it is fabulous >> I did not make >> yeah I kind of got the plastic manufactur plastic too >> okay we could get a picture of those
boys for us here. >> I worked at the sheriff before his parents just moved down south. So they >> they're atrunch. >> Yeah. When I went in there, I started with him. Yeah. He was there for a long time.
>> What are you going to do now? Any plans? >> Sergeant in the police department. >> My daughter went there. Oh yeah. >> Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I worked sheriff's department for 16 years. >> Correctional officer. >> Great organization.
>> It really is. Sheriff is kind of picked up with sheriff. I guess I'm seven. I just found out yesterday >> that's always fun though. You see a little of everybody especially when you're retired a little bit more relaxed there.
>> Yeah. [Music] Thank you for coming. >> You look very nice. >> Got everybody think so. One more apparent. broken right.
So nicego to talk [Music] Make All right. >> I don't know. Did I miss >> I'm over [Music] >> Yeah, I know. I have
already. >> Well done. You got a piece here already. >> Oh, >> take two. They're small. >> I like my sweets. You probably didn't call that. You know, Marlet said, "Let him eat cake.
just talked to uh Senator Oliver and Rep. Ash and they do not have a check for us. There was no money coming from Boston. Thank you. Somebody just told them to take their cake and leave. But again, thank them for coming and thank you to Cliff, Jane, and Mike and to
Scott as well. We'll have him in there sometime when he gives us a update. All right. So, next on the agenda, we have a hiring personnel update. >> Yeah. Um 1, two, three. So, four four
positions we're we were looking to fill. Uh we have filled the county position. That's the steamment. Um her first day was today. Um Cliff will be Cliff will be um helping her out um hopefully the next couple weeks as he
finishes up pre-cash. Um we have um Herb Foley has accepted the town facilities manager position. His first uh day will be September 8th. Um while I'm not directly involved in this, the assessors are hiring for the principal assessor.
Um they have two finalists and they had finalist interviews today. I think they're looking to make a decision by the end of the week. So, early next week, hopefully we'll know who they're going to uh go with. And then we have the uh chief of police uh search that's
currently going on. Um we received 12 applicants. I forwarded the board of recommendation after reviewing the applications with with myself and intram chief Trombli and we recommended that four people be moved to the next uh the next phase. So, it's really uh I'm really looking for direction from the
board as to whether you're okay moving those PE four people forward or less or somebody else that we in that we didn't include should be included. >> Um I'm looking for some guidance on that. >> Okay. Um everybody did receive the
recap. >> I was comfortable with the four choices that were presented. Who would be doing the next phase? Is that part of the company? Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. And what does that entail actually, you know? >> Um, so there it's
>> assessment center. So it's a lot of interview questions, real life scenarios that they play out and they analyze the candidates based on how they would handle >> different scenarios. >> Different scenarios. Yeah. That that are likely to come up >> community of this size. >> All right. So, is the board comfortable
with the uh basically the four candidates as suggested by the chief and Brian? >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. >> All right. And that's it for hiring personnel
update. Um, hang on. All right. Not for nothing. Not for nothing, but why are you guys still here? >> This is an open meeting. >> No, no. I didn't know if there was something I missed on the agenda. >> Oh, for me, I just wanted to say goodbye
to you. >> Oh, great. >> That's okay. >> No, that's great, Mike. Jeez. >> Have another Take some cake. Take some cake with you, please. >> I may just do that. Congratulations. Thank you, Michael. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Thanks for your service. >> Thank you, Mike.
>> Thank you, D. Thank you for my one year plus. >> I'll see you later. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay then. All right. Next, we have uh a
request from the conservation commission to appoint a couple of members. >> They're associate members. >> They're associate members, >> right? To appoint a couple full-time members. >> Membership, >> right? Do we have anybody from conservation?
>> I didn't even, you know, I didn't even mention it to them because uh it was all done. We did this pretty quick. I didn't mention it to them. >> So, we have nobody from conservation. >> You have me. You're the clerk. >> Not that you weren't the leader of
conservation for many years. And >> we would be terrific to have you back on the board. Seriously, you did a great job when you were the chairperson of conservation. >> Thanks. Well, I Yeah, I'm basically
still that. Well, let's throw it right out there then. Anyhow, so um I guess so Tom, who's chair right now? >> On paper, Tom Paes because >> Oh, >> we Well, we needed you really need to
have a a chairperson. >> Um and so that um I asked him if I could at least put his name on paper as the chair. Mhm. >> So that's what >> So because Wanda was not here enough.
>> Wanda um No, she's she's good when she's here, but she's um she's she takes two to three month vacations. >> Um she's only been here several weeks since she joined the board cuz she's off
a lot. She bought a camper and off she goes. >> Well, it's our dream for all of us. So So is she so is she on or off? Now >> I um well you guys at my request put her down to an associate member. >> Okay. >> Because what was happening was we were
having meetings with and with her as a member but absent I didn't I wasn't able to have quarums. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So and I told her that I you know she was fine with that. >> Okay. >> We did I mean I see your letterhead here. Her name isn't even on it as
either a member or associate. >> No, I haven't heard for um several months. So, I did put her on there. >> I was at your meeting. Wasn't there a young lady who was interested in joining at that last meeting when you were talking to Mrs. Di Augustino about
joining. There was a you had a young lady there as well. >> Uh the one from North Road, >> I think. So, yeah, >> that was her first and last time. >> Okay. Oh. Oh. Well, yep, it does. So, right now you have
three what you consider full-time members? >> I have. Yes. I have Tom Paige, I have Greg Dagustinino, and Scott Thomas. >> Didn't Marilyn want to be considered for full-time at some time? >> Oh, um Greg's mom. Yeah. Um she did. And
then um she has a um summer place in Maine. >> Mhm. >> So um I'm waiting to see um she was supposed to go there all summer this year and something happened and she didn't. But again, it would be putting somebody on
>> that is gone for 3 months out of the year. And I really worry about having a quorum. >> So she's still an associate at this point in time. >> Okay. All right. So,
you think we took official action to move Wanda from full-time to associate? >> Well, you got a letter comment. >> Yeah, but it would all depend about the appointment date that we gave her
originally and I don't recall an action that we took in a meeting, Don, >> to do something like that. Unless her unless her appointment ran out, >> we would need I mean she we took a vote of the board and we appointed her from
this state to this date to serve in conservation. >> Yes. >> And we would have to basically resend that appointment would have voted our board and I don't think I don't recall that happening, Don. >> No. >> All right. Well, she hasn't been here in
I mean here she hasn't been in town. >> No, that's fine. There were actually uh ways that >> I know there wasn't I know there was as part of the bylaws of the planning board when I was on the planning board that there was something in the rules and regs if you didn't show up for a certain number of meetings you could be
considered >> um >> I believe she also sent you a handwritten note not you personally the select board I think you also didn't she said no >> I thought she said Brian I thought she might have you asked her step down
>> so she resigned Okay, we'll look into it. If we have to do something in our next meeting, we'll do it formally. >> Okay, just make sure you're covered >> and she's not listed as a member and mess up your quum. >> Okay. >> Anyhow, so moving forward, >> he's got it here.
>> Seems to say >> I have emails that say she resigned effective June 1st >> and that was written by Juan Wenda. >> Yeah. So she resigned >> letter though, >> right? She would have has she would have resigned
>> June 1st. >> Yeah, >> she resigned as a full member. >> All right. Okay. So you are requesting that two of your associate members which were appointed to your commission at a
meeting in the recent past >> maybe July. I don't I didn't bring all my paperwork. So they >> probably >> So they've been serving as associates for like a month. >> Um yeah, about a month and a half because they've been going on all the
site inspections. Um Joe is particularly good with his uh um phone and his camera and he's taken lots of pictures for us to send to D and whatever. And um um both of them have attended every we've
had a lot of site inspections because we have a lot of uh uh violations going on right now. >> Okay. >> Well, one thing uh we have your memo from August 6th and
>> the one thing that did say in your memo is that Eric and Joe would gladly meet with your board. So I think uh that would be something we would be in favor of. >> When is your next meeting? >> Uh I believe it's September second,
right? >> Yeah. >> Okay, I'll get him in. >> Great. Then we'll quiz them on different type of plants, stuff like that, you know. >> And we got we got >> Well, Joe has a degree in environmental science. >> He can quiz us.
>> We have no at the same time. Which one? >> We got a letter from Wanda here that says, "Please put me as an associate member of the conservation commission as a I'm currently traveling. I'm unavailable to help." But that was as of June 1st. So, she wanted to go down to
to associates. We could do it all at the same time. >> Well, they they appoint associates, right? Yeah. >> I mean, if Evas receives the resignation or whatever that is full-time or we resend the appointment,
I guess we would have to take we would have to take action or she's resigned. >> She's resigned. >> Right. It wants >> and she's applying to you. I'd like to be an associate. And that's your action right there. That's your choice. >> And if you could have Eric and Joe >> Yes.
>> for a second, that'd be great. Eric. Yeah. And they and then that would give me five members. >> Yeah. And then which is much more workable. >> Oh, sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> You know, because I don't want to make those last minute phone calls. Please
come in, turn on your computer, do something. >> Great. >> All right. >> Okay. >> How's Ken doing? >> Better. He's doing better. Yeah. Yeah. He's walking. Yeah. Without a cane now. >> Excellent.
>> Yeah. So, don't ever get Lyme disease. Got it. >> All right. So, so then I can um assume that after September 2nd, is that what you said? >> Yeah. >> That then they would be full-time members,
full members, voting members. >> We'll see how they do on the plant quiz, you know. >> Right. >> Right. >> Wetland indicator species. >> Yeah. There you go. Thank you. Yeah. >> All right. Thanks. >> Show them pictures of different vernal ponds around town. >> Yeah. >> See how they do. And I'm and before I leave, I'm I'm just trying I'm sending
you more information when I you know on the violations whatever just so that you're up to date on on what's going on. >> We really appreciate what you sent us today. That was very informative. >> Yeah. I mean you know some people think conservation is just >> No, no. I mean that thing you sent us
the note about, you know, I had been contacted by a town manager in East La Meadow. >> Yes. >> They are very concerned what's going on. Yes. So staying on top of it. We really appreciate that. >> Right. Well, the next call is I have to call the state tomorrow on that. >> Okay. Take it take some home to Ken. No.
>> Is your next meeting this Wednesday? Did you have enough? >> Yeah, we were meeting Wednesday. >> Wednesday. >> Yeah. So, if you want to come if I if I can make it one if not where I'd probably zoom in. >> Yeah. Either way. >> Either way. >> Yeah, that'd be great. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. All right. >> Um,
[Music] >> we have a request to appoint two cadet and junior firefighters. I would have thought the fire department would be here. However, in light of the alarms we heard during the beginning of the meeting, they're probably out on a call right
now. So, do you have any background on either of these? Uh Brian, >> uh they're previously part of the uh >> cadet program. They're already cadets. We just didn't do appointments for them. We're just doing them to be safe. >> Oh, these are >> I didn't ask them to. >> Was it two or three kids that came in
that time? There was one there's a third one that left already. >> Okay, great. So, we have uh to sign the appointment slips for Darren Chapman of 67 Sessions Drive and Joshua Sheen from three Lee Lane in
Wilberham and they've already signed these >> selectman select board newsletter update. Brian, you provided us with a a draft. >> Yep. Um, I did chat with Becky about this and she says, "Okay, if we print
that and have it ready for them for Wednesday, it can go in this month's or we would have to do the printing of the page." So, do we have a chance to read over what? >> I did. I thought it was excellent. >> More pictures be nice.
>> Grammatically correct and uh seems to have the right punctuation. >> Catch you. >> No, pictures. More pictures. Come on. >> And I think next month we have to do it better. We I was remiss in doing anything. I have to admit it.
>> Well, you've only got one side, you know. That's nice. Look, if you want to throw something on the other side, what we're doing, throw the picture of what we just did tonight and thank those three people, you know, on the other back side of it. >> Yeah, that's a good thing, >> right? >> Four people. >> But I'm saying put that on there and
show. Okay. >> Oh, I need to print it. >> Well, you have to print it. >> Why do I have to print it? >> Because they need it for the coalition on Wednesday. >> Who's got the picture? >> You didn't take one. >> I'll figure it out.
>> Lawrence or >> I don't have money, but >> I'll send a couple to you right now. >> You take some. >> No, the uh uh the assistant and Tommy Vaughn and picking which ones they like. I Guess the picture.
>> Send the picture and do that. >> All right. We did the appointments folks. We did the select board newsletter update. Where? Where? Are you still with us? >> Yeah. I'm sending the picture to the people want to see it. There you go.
Okay. 150 and townhouse planning committees. Okay. I guess we have one person interested being on both. John, thank you. We appoint you to both. You're the chair. Good luck. Get some people. Thank you. >> See you next meeting. >> Right. Your budget like this. Should
have asked Jake before he left. >> Yeah. Really? Um, so I have heard from some people that are interested, but obviously they're not here. I think sometimes the summer's a little hard to get people to show up to meetings. So,
if we could, you know what? >> Put the picture. No. Put the picture on the top part of it. Put the put an announcement. We're looking for people from both committees on the back on the bottom half of that back page. And we're done. >> What do you think? >> Good. >> Yeah, that'll fill that second side.
Right. >> Put it on uh website, Facebook. >> Yeah. As well. >> Sign here. >> Warren loves doing that. >> Yeah. >> Want something on the sign here about >> Yeah. >> Never She can't reach the top row, right? >> Get a chair. >> Get a chair.
>> I'm chair. I'm not helping. You got to kneel down on your back. >> All right. >> Anyhow, so let's get it out there and put it on for September. >> Uh, all right. [Laughter] >> 28.
>> Huh? >> 2028. >> Yes. >> 150th. >> Yeah. Lauren, why don't you tell us about that pay phone? I had a Wolverham resident come in last week asking if he could take the pay phone that is outside. Apparently, he
collects them, said it does not work. And I said, I wasn't sure if the town owned it, but it seems like it's owned by Verizon. Correct. >> Mhm. >> So, does he have permission to contact Verizon and see if he can take it? >> Sure. My I'm fine.
>> I mean, did he actually put a quarter in first or >> I don't know. I'll make sure it doesn't work before >> before I give them. >> Is it still a quarter? >> When was the last time you saw any money in it? >> Been a long time, right? >> Check out first. >> That's a good question. >> You have a quarter. All right. So,
>> try to use it. >> Okay. >> Can tap >> uh before we go to executive session select board reports. Um I have nothing to report. Don, perhaps you give us an update on the planning meeting. >> Okay. Okay. Well, we had our planning
meeting and uh basically the uh the discussion centered around the amendments to the original agreement. Um the [Applause] Wilberham Select Board at this point is
not planning to have a fall town meeting. So the amendments would not come before the town at that time. But I suggested that we should really push to get that done because it would give us an opportunity to want to do one of two things. Number one, if the town if the
towns voted for it, it would give the school committee some, you know, time to plan uh get the amendments in place. Or if it if certain articles, particularly the article revolving around the Wolverham Middle School and who's to pay
for the capital expenses, doesn't pass, then we wouldn't know what to do. we could make another attempt at at the Springtown meeting to change the amendment to something that would be feasible for both towns. >> Um they uh the the Wilberham Select
Board member said that they're still interesting with us to negotiate an agreement on that. I otherwise I don't know what there's to negotiate if if uh I think our position is the same but I would check with our board but we obviously we'd be happy to meet at some
point to see >> I think I reported that a couple meeting ago that they reached out about that if it's something new we're all we're not interested in sitting here and going over the >> same same thing right the other issue that came up was the guidance that the uh department of of elementary and
secondary education sent out regarding the budgeting process and it was a great concern to the Wilberham Select Board, the Wilberham Finance Committee because basically what Desi said was that the budget that the school committee votes
on has to be presented to the towns as is including the capital expenditures as is. Uh they >> sorry included in the budget or they as could be separate articles or be one omnibus thing >> as is. It could be separate articles.
Okay. could be separate articles. And uh their attorney said that well what you could do is have the school committee budget one warrant article and then a second war article for the finance committee. But I don't believe that that works because I think if you don't vote
for this the assessment it's dead. >> 112 is well you got to go back to another town meeting or something like that. So >> and live at 112 on Tuesday. Right. So that's the kind of discussion that's going on now. So >> uh we >> that's not black letter I thought right
there. I didn't think there was a lot of question about that stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No. So, so, uh, the other thing is that the, uh, the superintendent said that there, and the reason the Wilberham Select Board
wasn't going forward with it in the fall town meeting was they were waiting for Desi's new new board, the new Desi board, which was going to promulgate new regulations. But the superintendent spoke to them and they said the regulations they promulgate aren't going
to change anything within the the only thing it may change inside the agreement is the reference and they said which you can just do you know by amending you don't have to go to town to amend that. >> So that's where we are. So if anything
uh nothing's changed I don't think in their position. >> No I don't think so. I mean the interesting thing they don't talk about you brought it up before is that voting thing inside the school committee and just you know that they have to like the representation right now they Excel
sheet every time they take a vote like count they have weighted voting yeah >> the other thing they did superintendent did say that they >> uh they asked what items that we thought we would carve out and I I explained that we thought we would carve out the that we shouldn't have to pay for the
the ventilation system problems. or the doors that lacks you know the security things because those are long long-term benefits. the superintendent that they have placed they've asked the mass uh school building associate
building uh board to to look at the schools and to they've entered the program if they if the mass decides to do the mass building decides to do it then they would get 52% reimbursement of the cost of the windows and doors which
would mean Wilberham would have to pay the 47% but we would have to pay 20% of the 47%. >> No. >> So if if if it if it went to a unified school, >> remember the last thing they got from MSBA that was a
>> the roof and then before that I think they had Sool Road had a pretty big upgrade. >> Yeah, it did. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And the MS uh MSBA is out there this week looking at the buildings. So we should have some >> I mean everyone what's at the back of
the mind like at one point what point do you say MSBA any appetite for the middle school? >> Yeah. >> That's where we are on that. >> All right. Thank you Don. Um Minister report.
Um this morning we had um the first of hopefully at least be twice a year meetings, maybe quarterly meetings with the uh transfer station uh transfer station employees uh to just check in with them. Uh we talked about uh kind of give them a background of the the
financial position of the transfer station, asked them if there's ways that they knew that we could increase revenue or decrease expenses. and we just had a a good conversation about ways to improve the the service there. Um so that'll be something that
we can continue on an ongoing basis. >> Mhm. >> Um because in more ways than one, they're kind of siloed outside at the you know they're kind of up there and away from all their town employees. So um we'll try to get improved communication with them moving forward.
Um I don't know if anybody on the board wants to touch on this. The last uh not regular meetings. The select board we met with the inspector general uh I don't know if somebody wants to talk about that or I'll talk about mention >> that. Yeah. But uh the IG came in Ben Shapiro.
>> Jeff Shapiro Shapiro. >> Um after 15 minutes of uh Don and Jeff talking about different things they knew in the AG's office and time at the Middle Sex DA's office and what the view was from the penthouse at the state
house. 20 22nd floor. >> 22nd floor, excuse me. Um, after that part of my life was was ended, we actually talked about the reason we came there, Brian and I woke up and uh, he just was doing circling around the state
introducing what the IG does. It was informative. You know, we all talked about what we thought was the biggest thing was working on a 30B requirements. you know, procurement is huge in a small town like this. And if it could be streamlined
and made more relevant to basically what purchasing is nowadays, uh what was $5,000 when they wrote this thing, you know, x number of years ago is not even realistic to what you're spending nowadays for that. We all saw that with
the increase in the highway department building, you know, in just a two-year span where it doubled, you know. So, all in all, it was a good meeting. Uh, we left with an agreement for him to put his signs in Don's yard and
and I knew Brian enjoyed it, >> right? >> Yeah, it was a good meeting. >> It was good. It is good to see put a face to a name and it is nice to see somebody from Boston coming out to Western Mass and not making the comment,
oh, I changed my watch. boy. So far out here and uh you know it's been rare in my time to see actually a state a level official out this way. All right. Um, last week I did
uh sign the warrant for the payroll warrant and the AR warrant and the amounts as given by the town account and um Lauren is going to research those amounts that we have in our minutes for
right. Okay. All right. And um we're off next week, but as of September 2nd, I believe the board is resuming its weekly meetings. Correct. >> Correct. >> Cuz we are going to be and for the
agenda on the second, I would like to have an item on there for the special town meeting. >> Okay. It's actually not too late even, Brian, to send out the standard memo right now to every department. Maybe not wait for the staff meeting, but send it out now because you don't because you
don't know. Some of these boards only meet once a month. So, they're only going to have two meetings, >> right, >> before the special town meeting. >> Do we want to target in >> uh by the end of September at the latest, I would say. >> I mean, the town meeting date. >> Oh, time meeting date I thought was going to be the last Monday in October.
>> Was the last Monday we want to >> So, we really hadn't given a lot of notice about putting in warrant articles. We're down to uh two months. >> Maybe we want to close it, I guess, is the question. >> I mean, but we've barely given them a chance to submit an article. I mean,
we're already hearing from potentially park and wreck would like us to buy him a truck. >> I have I have an ongoing list. That's that I that I >> Right. You're saying fortunately the bridge is coming up because you're going to use chapter 90 money. Yeah. For the highways. That's good. >> Um potentially a couple of cruisers. I
would think at least one if not two. Um, we may have to reinvestigate. >> Well, putting more money towards the facility manager. >> Yeah. >> Are we going to need more money for upgrades at Thornton Burges?
That type of thing. >> Yeah. The the biggest issue we need to solve is is the is the HVAC. >> Mhm. >> You know, I think it'd be limited, but you can't cool the cafetorium, >> right? >> Yeah. I think we target areas we're going to occupy,
>> right? >> Fortunately, I think with the drop ceilings, you can easily do something, you know, long vending system coming along. But >> yeah. >> All right. >> It's on my uh to-do list for the facility. >> Okay. But I think but I think sending out if we're going to set a date right
now, what date if we send out a memo, we must have a warrant article request by let's say we're meeting the 2nd, >> the 8th and the 15th, right? >> Post on the 13th. >> If we're doing October 27th, we need to
post no later than the 13th. So we'd want to give a little time. >> October 6th. Oh, no. So, we're meeting the 2nd, the 8th, the 15th. I would say they need to
get articles to us for for us to think about inclusion like September 22nd at the latest. >> Yeah. >> You got the advisory committee hearing and everything, >> right? The whole thing. And that's actually it's different dates for the special. I mean, I would consider even the 15th. If you put out that memo this week, >> Yeah.
>> I would say they have to put things to us by the 15th. That's a month. >> How do you feel? >> Yeah. Yeah. I think >> yeah, >> you know, got to still give them a little bit of leeway if they, you know, put something, >> right? So, if we need to fix something,
we can, but we got to know now. We can't be, we don't want to go through like we did, what was it, two, three years ago, or it seemed like it was just >> what we do for petitions? Do we set a specific date for petitions to be submitted? >> Is there any rumor of something?
>> No, but you never know. Yeah, >> I'll go back and try to see what we did. I'll make it deadline for that as well. >> Okay. >> All right. If there's nothing else, I'll entertain a motion to go into executive session for the purpose of discussing
strategy with regard to collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or litigating position of the public body. And the chair so declares in relevant to the contract for the
highway union. Why is it called patrol? Second >> without a return to open session. >> So moved. >> All in favor? John Flynn I. >> John I. >> I. All right.