Okay. >> Hi. Look who's here. >> Every other board is cancelled tonight. So, you're here. >> It is 6:00. It >> is. >> Are you ready? >> It is. >> It's t. It's recording.
>> All right then. Good evening and welcome to the select board and board of health meeting for September 22nd, 2025 being held in the townhouse select board office. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I learn 20 pounds. That's five cameras. It's adding.
>> Uh, this meeting is being broadcast over Zoom. We're also recording the meeting. Is there anybody else recording the meeting? Kristen Rivers from the Hamlin Times. Welcome Kristen. >> Sarah Henan and Reminder Publishing. >> Dan, you are who? >> Say again.
>> Welcome Sarah. All right. So, first order of business is approval of minutes. We have the minutes of September 2nd, 2025. Awesome. Awesome meeting. We we had three new candidates for the
conservation commission brought to us by Bonnie. We appointed all three. and we spoke with the library trustees about the schedule for moving over to the new town hall and we had general discussions about
other things on our agenda. We also had a public hearing as always for a pole permit which was successful for the grid. I was quite happy there were no double poles involved in that approval.
Excellent. Hence the approval. Hence the approval. Exactly. All right. I move approval of the September 2nd, 2025 minutes regular meeting. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> On September 8th, we also met at the
town hall. Not all of us, however. And uh we had another poll hearing because what else do we do at a select meeting, right, Don? >> We could have a dog hearing. >> I have a dog.
>> You have a dog to bring. Um so the poll hearing was uh successful as well. We talked about the bathroom renovations and recommended awarding the contract for the bathrooms renovations at senior center. We talked about
recommending and we recommended the asbestous contract as well for school. adopted the surplus property policy and then discussion about other various things including the upcoming town
meeting. >> Move approval of the September 8th, 2025 minutes. >> Second. All in favor? >> I you don't understand. >> All right. Next on the agenda,
inappropriate to talk about it's a hog hearing. No. All right. But Dave, >> so we're not going to refer to you as big Dave even though his name. >> A lot of people do. >> Do they really?
>> Yeah. Hence hence the name. >> All right. So give us a little background and >> Sure. Um so what I'm looking to do is the >> You are >> Oh, excuse me. Date Dalt >> cuz we got hundreds of people watching on that. >> I I apologize.
>> Potential C potential customers as well. >> Hundreds. >> Hundreds. >> Um yeah. So my name is Dave Dalt. I live here in town. Recently moved to Hampton. >> Glendale, right? >> Yep. Glendale two years ago. um grew up in Awam all my life and um
the what I'm looking to do is open up a small business by myself. Just retired from a a regular 9-5 corporate job in aerospace and defense 25 years >> and I've been doing the motorcycle uh
particular with this company for the past 10 years. But I never owned the facility myself. So, I'm looking to do it solely by myself >> at that location. >> So, this is on Main Street, correct? >> The former hardware store, right? >> You've already been to the planning
board, >> correct? >> And approved there as well. >> Y quickly, if I asked John from the planning board, there were there were no conditions or anything on their approval or were there? >> Basically, I'm not since I'm not on the planning board. >> No, I'm sorry, but you were there. I >> I was there. Yes. And uh there was
really no condition >> just the standard approval for any business in the business district. Correct. >> Change of use, right? >> Yeah, it was it was a change of use. They previously had used it for for storage. So >> basically was a garage area. >> Yeah, it's a basically it's a threec car garage
>> and now they have that nice uh >> turn around go >> turn around going around back. >> There's plenty of parking. Um, and I, as I mentioned in the application, or my lawyer had mentioned in the application, not looking to do additional lighting. Um, >> or any any parking up in the upper
parking lot. Um, and most of the business I've done over the past 10 years, and I think I mentioned at the planning board, a lot of it's online. >> Mhm. >> Um, so the traffic is probably going to be minimal. >> A lot of word of mouth. >> Yeah. And I go to I go to events on the
weekends, so a lot of times it'll be delivered or shipped right to their house. Displays. Do you plan on doing any display? >> Everything's inside. >> Around back. >> Yep. >> Right. >> Everything be outside. The only um the only motorcycles that might be displayed is during the day like in front of the doors down below.
>> Or you have to go around back. So not >> Yeah. You won't see them from the road. >> Okay. >> I know uh you had stopped into Brian's office, correct? >> A while back. And >> one of the things I asked you about then is the >> a concern would have that there is a child's
>> business above it, a daycare or preschool, whichever. Do you think there'll be much noise impact to them? >> It'll be less noise than they currently make. >> You think so? >> Yeah. Because >> less noise than they make. >> Yes. Well, because they use that room, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the building. They only they use that room for play playtime.
>> So, twice a day from what I I've been going down there trying to clean up the the location. Um, so twice a day they're in there for maybe a half hour, 40 minutes, >> you know, just getting some of the energy out of the kids. Then they go back into the main building, which is totally separate from that section.
>> Okay. >> So, somebody who's interested in buying one, can I come down and test drive it from your location? >> No. No test drives. No, I'm not I'm not looking for a dealer plate. >> Okay. >> Um, no test drives. Um, full insurance. All Yeah. Yeah. No, all that's all that stuff internet. And I'm going to have a
website and so on and so forth. Okay. Wow. So, it really is. >> Yeah. It has to be from with this company. >> No service. Just just >> Well, I if a motorcycle like if I sell a brand new motorcycle and you need to have a service, I have to do it cuz I'm factory trained by them. So, I been to
two classes um in California to be trained by them. >> Okay. >> Some of the >> Well, you you said you weren't going for a dealer plate. >> No, but I need a class one dealership because they're new motorcycles. That's the requirement. >> Are they are they race Excuse me, John. Are they racing motorcycles or
>> um they're both you can they could be strictly off-road or it can be uh street registered so it has titles. They all come through with titles >> but some uh use them off-road for racing. >> You ever been to the aisle of man races? >> No, but it's crazy. >> Yes, I've been there several times. >> I just um I just came back from um
Canada. >> Yeah. >> Over the weekend. I got in at 2 o'clock last night for uh the 71st quarter enduro which 700 riders and they do the through the woods on the road all registered insured.
>> Yeah. I was in 20 2020 and 2001 and 2004 I think there and I go go you have to go across with in a ferry you know >> I get nervous just watching them they go fast. It's there really is. >> Yes. >> So, some of the other uh licenses we
gave to that location required a sign out in the parking lot. Do you think this one does as well or >> I would like to put um as far as uh >> No, no. Basically, you had like you had to declare a parking place in the parking lot for a couple of the other auto licenses we gave there.
>> I don't I I wouldn't need that. And there is plenty of parking down below. It's it's a you know, I have a big big vehicle. been able to do like a two-point turn right in the parking lot. >> Okay. Do you think you'd be adding something to the sign up front? >> Just where the the placard is?
>> Yeah. Yeah, probably. Okay. >> What kind of hours is this going to be? >> I'm going to try to do like um 10 to six. >> 10 to six. >> Yeah. Most Sundays. >> Sorry. >> Yeah. Like close close Sundays and maybe one day during a week. You know, initially I I want to try to get it up and running, but like I said, a lot there's not going to be a lot of people
coming in, >> right? Is there lighting going around back or No, >> there's just one light on the building. There is there's there's power um the pole lights, >> but they don't seem to be working. So, I don't know if they were shut off for >> another reason. >> They would have been private poles,
private lights there. Okay. >> But I mean the driveway going around back is it lit at all or not really. >> There's a light on the outside of the building. Yeah. Just one in there. Yeah. >> Okay. That would be a concern for your night any potential nighttime use.
>> So, >> and you're going to do parts and accessories. You >> correct? >> Which I've done, like I said, for the last 10 years. It's always been through another business, but I had an LLC prior to that. >> So, that's why I started fresh with this because I'm trying to do everything my under my own.
>> Sure. >> Okay. I want to entertain a motion to uh grant a class one agent seller license to Big Dave Power Sports. Yeah. Don't laugh. Everybody else came up with that name. Not me.
>> Make a motion to uh approve class one dealer application on behalf of Big Days Powersports. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Congratulations. >> Appreciate it. Appreciate your time. >> The assessors will be out to see you soon. >> Oh, I have a check here, too. >> He has a check here, but I want everyone
to know it's made out to the town of Hampton. >> Sign that now. Make a copy and you can take the license of it now if you want. Be careful. >> No. Wait for it. >> When you say it, people are going to
think like they're really serious. >> You're one of the best. You never took a dime. If you couldn't fold it, you wouldn't take it. >> What is this? This is the white. >> All right. All right. I already have this >> like a golden rod color.
>> Sarah, is it just as exciting as you remember? >> All right. Well, that was that was all the excitement. Now, we're going to review the special town meeting warrant. We have a copy in our folders. >> Can ignore the article numbers because
they're messed up. Articles 1 through 10 and articles 1 through five. Kids are helping. >> 10 + 5 is 15. So there's 15 articles. >> I think we got nine and a half here. Okay.
All right. So we are meeting we have we have uh announced that we're having a special town meeting at the standard place Burgess at Warham Road on October 27th at 6:30. We have the last couple of special time meetings, we've started
them at 6:30 and it's been pretty popular, I think. Before we start into it, is there a any appetite to the board to perhaps putting a warrant over article on change the annual town meeting start time? Cuz if we don't do
it now, it's that yearong thing. It wouldn't take effect for a year plus. >> Yeah, no problem with that. >> What do you think, Greg? You think people would be okay, especially as the annual town meeting is such a lengthy warrant, >> you know, starting at 6:30. Heck, by the
time it even gets everybody settled in, you know, it' be close to 7. >> I'm thinking someone's getting older wants to get to bed early. lines. >> Is there any opportunity to cut
>> some of the the times as opposed to starting >> earlier? Is there any way to >> Well, the consent agenda I think really helped quite a bit. Yeah. >> Um I don't know. And it came up to me. Somebody asked me, are we going back to the electronic voting thing? And I don't
think that's been a focus at this point. >> No. Do you think 6:30 is what? Tough on families or what? >> I think for families, I think anytime is tough that have small children. I think 6 6:30 is kind of just getting a little
as the meeting time drag, you know, goes on. I think it's tough for the younger kids, parents with younger children because they got to get home. >> Well, that's why I think starting earlier is better. >> I I I definitely see the point. Um both >> and then the meat of the meat of the town meeting wouldn't be until 7 because the 6:30 to 7 check in. We're going to
start couple of announcements. Let's do the consent agenda which is typically >> pretty wrote >> and then people would be there at 7 for you know say the hefty articles >> right >> rather than that might be 7:30 quarter of 8 in a normal meeting
>> and they came for a specific thing because of a school article or >> the and now they're there for seven when it really counts. >> Right. >> Right. >> How about this? We put it on for and people are against it. They're against it. We have some discussion about it.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Agree. >> It's worth having a conversation. >> Okay. >> So, we're going to add an article to >> and you amend the general bylaws, >> right? >> Okay. So, the first one is uh Becky had
come to talk to us about this the change to the senior center because of a loss of a grant from the state >> and the amount was not huge. I think >> 7500 I think >> 7500 right. Okay. Additional funding for the
facilities manager. Um we talked about this in the spring. We made a an adjustment with conversation with the advisory at that point and now we need to now that we've hired somebody really restore it to a full-time salary. And this is the
number based on your negotiations. This is what we need for a full year. >> Okay. Right. Additional funding for the insurance complaint benefits. I did mention this to Dick that we since we had an unexpected retirement. I thought benefits would be short. Uh we do have a
couple of employee changes, but Dick does think there's enough latitude in the budget to cover the employee part of it. So, this really represents the payout we had to do, which wasn't budgeted uh because we weren't aware of an upcoming retirement. >> Who's that, Scott?
Oh. Hub uh installing HVAC >> at the new town hall and you don't have a price yet, >> right? Myself and herb met with HBAC
contracted this past week. So there's a difference between if you want individual ones per room or you could look at a bulk one for a hallway per se, you know, because you do have drop ceilings. It pretty easy to run the venting that way. Okay. >> You get a couple different looks at it, right? >> Yeah. What they talked about was for the
library space, it might make sense to have a a single larger unit possibly on the roof >> and then duct it down to the different spaces >> in the center part there. Yeah, >> but I was thinking your hallway there, you might >> make out because it is fairly contiguous and you can drop down, you might get
away with one larger one for the whole hallway. >> Yeah, I think they might have been including those two front offices in that as well. So, >> really, what are you talking about ballpark? >> They said we're not going to do it for
less than 100,000. >> Sounds all right. Okay. Okay. Uh HVAC replacement. So basically anybody who's been to the senior center is aware that their system is up uh above up in the rooftop area. This is a
bit of a ballpark at this point. Gary Wner met with um BG Mechanical went through a list of and this I believe was his ballpark figure was in the 190 range. This is understanding that that
wasn't a quoted system. things are going to be going up and this is probably more appropriate for by the time this gets voted and out there. 250 is probably not and there were some unc things that weren't covered i.e. opening
up the roof et you have to be charging something somebody else should be paying for. John I miss anything? >> No, you're spot on. >> So 250 is is the ballpark we're looking at there. Brian, you were at that meeting as well. I think >> that was the number >> the same HBAC contractors that went
through TWWB with Herb, he also took them over to the senior center to for a second quote on >> could be done there. So senior center also >> on also. So I I we have not received that. >> Not yet. >> So are they still going to do the roof?
>> Yes, but that would now be because this would involve work to the roof. It'd be foolish to do the roof work and then open it back up again. So >> we are still >> right. One potential thing would be the longer you put it off, the amount that
we had quoted may go up. But I did see a couple other quotes that potentially could go down. So we're hoping that the money that is appropriate already will will handle the roof project. Um Transfer Station Electrical. Uh Don, you want to
>> I have no idea what this is. Well, there was always a So, this is probably before you. So, we have a little shed that was bought many years ago up there where they and they were talking about trying to get power into it because a there's no heat there. They did have a generator. >> So, this is what they think it would
cost to get a single line 120 over to that place. Whether it comes off the poles that's going out or whatever, electrician, etc. Obviously, you got to come off the you can't go into the cap, >> right? Right. So, it's got to be one of those pools that then maybe you call your friends and see if they got a le
over double pole they can give us >> where the cut. >> So, this is $12,500 to attach a wire to a pole >> and wire the thing. There's no wiring in it for heat or anything like that. I don't I don't know who came up with this, but >> this was uh scary. >> I think there's signage there too, right?
>> Uh so, it's 10,000 for electrical, 2500 for to uh the signage. Um >> uh but Okay. Interesting. >> Should this be in through the enterprise fund? >> We don't do any money in it. >> No, but I'm just saying should this be
raised appropriate for the enterprise fund? >> Absolutely. >> It it it could be the question. >> I'm saying I know it's a capital it's a capital thing, but >> when we establish that fund, is it responsible for all capital work up at
the landfill? I don't know. I I I think in theory yes, but I don't know that the revenue supports >> this year's projected revenue didn't >> understand that. But could we modify the revenue for could we appropriate 125 additional for the enterprise
>> fund? >> But then you'd have to generate the revenue. >> This is from the tax rate. That's how you're doing it. Again, we already appropriated some money from the tax rate for the enterprise fund ending. Now we're just increasing that amount. We kind of instead of like a special like you say the see if the town raise and
appropriate transparent money $12,500 to the enterprise fund for the purpose of >> Right. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. >> Now the only downside there would be that's a fiscal year thing whereas if we do this way if it doesn't get done by
June 30th >> it stays there. You don't. >> No, I'm saying the enterprise fund is fiscal. You know, you know, we bound to June 30th where this a warrant article that get done in July, August, whatever. You know,
>> I I would say look into it. I think we want to spend the money there. Find the appropriate vehicle that it goes into. >> I'm suspecting they'd like to have it done before winter, though. >> Oh, that that's not going to happen. I don't think >> Well, that's kind of the whole debt. >> So, then can't we just appropriate like
a hundred bucks for mittens? and hats >> donation from town. Thanks. >> They could use electric blank. >> All right, moving on. I also see the copy of the signage, too. >> Uh, police cruiser purchase.
This is in response to the email we got from uh the arm chief. >> I'll make a quick comment about the email. I'm sure the whole board saw it that there were two options there. One for a cruiser, >> although it wasn't listed as an SUV. I
assume it's an SUV, and one for a truck, >> interceptor SUV, >> and one for a truck. And I will say, as I've said in the past, I do not see the need for the police department to have a truck. Um, just cuz other towns do. So,
>> is this the money for a truck or for >> the higher amounts of the truck? >> Oh, I see. Okay. >> Yeah. the lower monster interceptor SUV. >> Yeah. Um which really has gone up considerably down from the previous >> um based on the mileage and thank you for forwarding the mileage uh recap from
the police department. They certainly are looking at at least one new vehicle and I did appreciate the fact that I think that if we went for a interceptor at the special time delivery wasn't too
bad based on that email I don't think. >> Right. >> Yeah. So, but I do think it's appropriate for the board to discuss coming up before we go to advisory.
It sounds weird. Which horse we're backing here? Basically, are we endorsing the discussion about a truck or we say no, we're staying with SUVs? And if we were changing
the direction of the department, should that be under the purview of the new chief, you know, because that would be kind of a sea change in what the vehicle fleet looks like. And I don't think it's appropriate to bring somebody in with a
pretty big change like that. I I wouldn't appreciate it coming. >> And honestly, based on the mileage, we're probably looking at another cruiser in the spring anyhow. And maybe the new guy could weigh in. New person could weigh in at that point
>> because I think there were two done right up in 80s 90s at right. So >> with the highway department superintendent has asked us to consider getting a another Volvo basically. Was it a Volvo? >> Mhm.
>> Okay. Basically Volvo Michigan loader. Basically that type of thing. What we have up there right now. Um, we had replaced, sorry, we had gotten a new one several years back with Volvo. At that point, we did not trade the old one in. We kept it for loading the salt into the
trucks, which was probably an incredibly good use of it at that point because it keeps the other one on the road doing work and doesn't drag it back in. Mark, I believe, is looking to actually have now two in
service at this time. probably still run the other one until honestly until it dies. The one that loads salt and I see an advance to this because looking at what we're going to be the loader is
a much more appropriate plowing device for the school parking lot than a plow truck because it's got to be mobile turning around quite a lot, you know, lifting and clearing up to the side there. So having one there that's going
to be a several hour job just doing that parking lot. >> Absolutely. >> I think >> John you want to share? >> I do if I could. Um thought process was that it was going to be a little smaller than what we have now. Okay. We have an L70 now and he wants to go down to an
L50. Mhm. >> Uh again, he's thinking of trading in the John Deere because there is some value to it. >> The old one. >> The old. >> Yes. >> Go ahead. >> No, we did talk about that. I mean, is
there value to it? I mean, the most valuable thing on the tires cuz they're in decent shape. >> You are correct. You know, but it does need it does need tires >> at some point or or we trade it in or it was h valuable to load in. I would not
predicate the price on this based on the trade. If we traded it, great. If we don't, we don't. >> So, >> it's not going to be worth >> the new loader would stay in load trucks and use the big loader to do the parting, >> right? And um >> and other clowning, whatever.
>> What I think at that point back when we were looking at trading in when we got the Volvo, >> it was in the $10,000 range and now it would be worth even less. So, I wouldn't predigate the purchase on this. >> Oh, we're going to save 4,000. This number here I think is on the the one that has a few hours on it too, isn't it? >> Right. Full warranty.
>> What about with the full warranty? >> That's as far as right >> time. Right. This is the one to the lower of the two point 175, but we'd have it we'd have it in our fleet the next basically
in November, which would be great. >> Okay. So, >> which is when we're going to need it because we'll be charged at a parking lot at that point in the >> I think the 175 is actually new. >> Yeah, it's a higher note. >> That's the higher note. Even better. Even better. So,
>> all right. The next is a request from the parks department to um uh get a pickup truck and they're asking for 20,000 which I assume is a used truck. uh and that's their
their purview to put articles on the town meeting and we can have a discussion about that later maybe even at the advisory hearing. >> Do you know when your hearing is going to be? >> I I asked Doug and I don't know that Doug had picked a day yet at this point.
>> Okay. >> And I haven't heard back from Doug either. >> That's all I have to say. >> All right. >> Old cemetery, new section turnaround. So, the cemetery department has asked uh had a conversation or Dwayne had a conversation with Doug about CPA money
to do a construction of a culde-sac in the old cemetery >> which I'm trying to think must be up to the left for >> I mean cemetery >> the south
>> chap cuz I mean you go in you turn to I thought there was a turn around the circle there on the Yeah. But not way up. Not way up >> where we went up for the ceremony. >> Right. >> There's no circle up there. >> No. >> All right. Um, the only question I had
was, and Doug was going to look into it, any restriction on CPA funds for construction as opposed to historical resources. We had been asked for money before for restoration of gravestones for restoration of the um you know the
uh statue across the street but in actual construction you know because there have been limitations on the recreation part as well things like that. That's what he was going to check with the state and make sure that was all for.
>> Talking about the recreation part, does there does CPA funds can they fund a study because our um open space study has to be updated in to
get other grants. So I would think so. Sure. They could still do a study, right? I think the stud is like 20 I think I think that Conway school said like 20,000 bucks to do it, you know. So, >> can't get can't get it back from uh
Steve and uh Mary >> 250,000 >> right now. If I could just interject on that. Uh right now, uh Dan sent me over a grant opportunity from the state of [Music]
conser land conservation assistance grant up to 25,000. So we're uh we're exploring that right now. So it might not require CPA funds, but in my experience, CPA funds are >> would be two two ways to cover. Yeah, that grant
would allow so it's it's not it 90% reimbursement 10% could be in kind match. So we would need a open space and recreation committee to work with the vendor. We could track the time and make up the 2500. >> That need turn the master plan committee over to the open space and just tell them
>> be something to do on Wednesday morning. >> Exactly. All right. Article one. >> Article X1. X1. Yeah. Uh yeah, >> one A. >> 1 A. Exactly. Adopt the local lodging exercise tax. Okay. Chapter 64 GS
section 3A. >> So that requires a a a percentage. >> Yeah, I think Don you said other towns are on the 6%. Most towns are at 6%. And I I checked with the Department of Revenue and
there's currently six places in town that have that >> location lodging. >> Actually, it was I thought they all be at >> I was surprised there were three other ones. >> Yeah. The lodging and the way it works is that they add the 6% on to the rental
fee. >> The town does really has no role in it and they the business collects the money. They send it in with their regular sales and use tax and quarterly the state sends you the money. >> So the customer pays it. >> The customer saves it. >> Like a tariff. >> Yeah. The customer
>> I knew you were going that we're going to have a 20% tariff on Wilbur. >> Thank you Sarah. No >> no no Kristen. Um >> and and so you know it's not going to raise a lot of money but it might get a couple of thousand bucks and over the course of a year
>> right up there with that electrical vehicle fund right huge money. Um and then we have these standard financial transfers something a water department borrowing that's based on basically there was a bit of a
a discussion between our financial department and do and this is assume the result of that discussion basically >> it's money that's already been raised but they wasn't available immediately to pay so we got to reappropriate it.
>> Yep. Then we have the standard let's say three articles transfer from free cash to reduce the tax rate always pretty popular transfer from general stabilization fund to reduce the tax rate just as popular and
then free cash put it back on the savings account not as popular but they have to be there. Is there anything else uh that I haven't covered on the suggested warrant that anybody wants to put on before we close
it? Could we could we uh transfer I mean the statute says the town meeting can transfer money from one department to another. Uh so for instance we paid our our Hampton County retirement board is
$10,000. >> So we have our 10% left. >> So we have 10,000 left in that. Could we transfer that 10,000 to pay for send it to the senior center for the 12,500 or the 7,500 for the
uh >> right? So >> $7,000, >> right? Cuz we appropriate worst case that we didn't make the payment and got the the discount. Now we have the discount. >> We have the $10,000 $400. >> Can we reduce the appropriation basically and transfer that money?
>> You can. >> Yeah. Yes, you can. You can amend the operating budget to the tax rate set. >> Um >> I don't know if I like say I don't know if we transfer but we can reduce one and increase the other basically affecting the same thing but I don't know about transferring per se.
>> Yeah I think you can say the town meeting can transfer under 30 under 40. >> No no but I mean it's effectively the same thing. We're going to decrease one appropriation and increase another appropriation and explain >> at the end of the day it's the same money. >> Yeah. I'm just thinking it's a way to
Yeah. you know, and and likewise, um I guess on the senior center thing, could you repurpose the the a portion of that $140,000 towards the $250 and then come back later on when they're ready to do the roof.
>> We were talking we're talking we're talking almost $750,000 here at the special meeting. >> Mhm. >> I'm just thinking of a way to >> consolidate. So, if you're not going to do the roof now, but but the havoc, the important thing, could you transfer, I
don't know, the bathrooms are like 40 or 50,000. So, you could could you transfer that 90,000 to to this? >> You can repurpose >> you can repurpose the the funds from the previous article for different purposes. Let's say HBAC
then you would reduce the amount of the the subsequent article, >> right? That that's what you could do whether you want to do it or not. Well, yeah. Right. >> But you could do it. >> You'd have to with the motion because the motion originally before did not mention the HBAC. So >> you would have to you'd have to change
one to make it the article of repurpose vote >> or revote the motion increasing it and basically add that purpose in there. >> Yeah. Something like that. Right. As well. Yeah.
And then you'd have to come back though to town meeting for the for layer roof, >> right? >> But I'm just thinking now look at this like 750,000 bucks at a special town meeting though. >> Yeah. All right. So
that would require another article. Right. >> So before we close the warrant, are you looking Do you want to put a placeholder in for that? >> Yeah, put a place for both those have a discussion. >> Okay. Right. >> Yeah. Let's make sure I got them right here.
>> Okay. With that amended uh list, are we ready to close the warrant? >> So, you want to repurpose repurpose? >> So, you're going to be up to all the way up to 7A. >> I know. >> OneB
repurposes roof amount. >> Yeah. >> Yep. and then uh >> 10,000 >> and then do the basically change an appropriation thing or transfer from one appropriated line to another >> which would effectively actually
>> might >> that No, that would replace article one because article one is incre you're asking for money for the shortage and um and you're saying can we take care of the shortage by transferring instead so you're replacing
>> article one I would think that Yeah, >> one way or the other. Article one is going to be taking care of the shortfall from the state. Whichever way, either we do it by transfer and or from free cash or an unused appropriation. >> I want to look at it, but I think the board may have
the authority with I think we get back to the uh advisory in in select board to transfer the line items. >> I thought that was only after May. Do that the last. >> Yeah. Right. first, but >> any other time during the year, it has
to be at town meeting, >> right? >> Okay. >> And could you look at the uh on the CPA money, think about the u the open space plan, >> you know, see figure out that grant and
see. >> Yeah. All right. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And with that being said, >> I move to close the warrant for a special town meeting. >> When is that? >> October 27th. >> October 27th, 2025.
>> What time? >> 6:30 p.m. >> All right, then. Second. >> All in favor? >> I thank you. Yes, sir. >> All right. Surplus property, which is not the select one, no matter what people say. >> My request.
>> Select board members, excuse me. My request is that is to surplus approximately 90 student desks that were remaining in Thor Burgess. >> Really? There's about 30 in the back three classrooms currently in the park
and recreation space. >> Old students. John, you want one? >> My plan would be to uh >> give offer them back to the school district just in case they want them. If not, then maybe uh sell them as a as a lock. >> Stuff them stuff them with all the extra desks over memorial.
I got there in time. >> We'll drop them off at the >> All right. >> Elementary school. >> Okay. >> Then what happen? Let's say >> I'm sorry. So >> let's say they don't want them. Then what happens? >> Um then we would dispose of them
>> which is going to be a cost to >> if if the district doesn't want them. I would probably put them as one lot on municip. Yeah. Like 90 student desks and see if anybody wants them. And if nobody does at that point, we're gonna have to pay to get rid of them, right? >> We could. Well, yeah, we would have to
at some point worst case sell them off one time. Maybe someone would want their desk or >> for kids or >> is this the tip of the iceberg? We talked about it actually and maybe tomorrow. >> We could take a look through a couple of the classrooms we're meeting tomorrow
over there. Is there other stuff or is this the worst part >> in terms of in terms of uh student stuff? This is this is this is the worst of it. >> Okay. Um, the rest of it is >> miscellaneous desks and stuff like that. >> Adult desks and old office chairs and things like that. >> Yeah.
>> And a lot of hand sanitizer. >> Good. >> Yeah. >> No bad. All right. >> Like, >> all right. So, you need authorization or is that just your letting us know? Basically, >> uh, the policy would would have you authorize would designate the, uh,
property as surplus. Um, I move that the the 90 that the 90 desks remaining 90 desks at the Thornton W. Burgess school be considered surplus. >> Second. All >> in favor? >> Thank you.
>> Okay. Update on the where we stand on converting Burgess to a new town hall. >> Yes. >> Our facilities manager is extremely busy. Um, so as I uh emailed the board, I'm I'm still aiming for uh bigger
>> paper. Bigger paper. Yeah. >> Can you see that? >> Getting 11 by 17. >> I can put it up there if you want. >> Who says I can see that far? >> Pull your chair closer. >> Jesus. >> Yeah. >> Put it up there.
>> Want me to share it? >> No, it's fine. Go ahead. >> Yeah, share it. Zoom share host disabled participant screen sharing. >> Okay. So anyhow, so you have this list here. >> So uh bigger projects that we're looking
to do uh before we get in is obviously the asbestous abatement of the five classrooms. Library is hoping to add two additional rooms to that. >> That is current that went out the bid. It is it was awarded to uh abide from me. Was that because of the timing thing
you let Apex turned it down? >> Um, Apex told me that they quote unquote made a mistake in their bid and that they would like to rescend it and I happily accepted cuz >> they're from a very large very far distance away. >> Um, I just feel more comfortable with
>> more local companies. Um, so that's scheduled for October 13th. >> Um, they've allowed for about a week. >> Um, I'm not sure it will take that long. Those tiles, those tiles are coming up by themselves. So, I don't think it'll take too long to to get them up. >> Um,
>> nice. >> They may all may all be up by >> take a desk, take a tile. Yeah. Right. >> After that, we need to uh install new flooring in those locations. >> Mhm. >> Um, so, as you know, we're trying to zone the building into really three zones in terms of our electronic access,
library, parks, and rack, and town hall. >> Uh, there's two ways. There's two locations where we need uh access control. Whether that's uh we were thinking it was going to be hallway doors similar to the ones that are in there now. Another option is to do at least temporarily some wall construction um and just block those areas off.
Conversations with the building inspector. Um those are those are two options that are being explored right now. >> And back to I'm sorry, back to the thing. So the flooring I see you got tomorrow on here. Did it already bid and you got it? So tomorrow, so they're uh
they're part of the Mack contract, Mass Higher Education Commission. >> All right. >> Um so Mhack has done the essentially done the procurement for us. >> Okay. Cuz I think Vinnie has done work here, not just here, but at the senior center as well back in the past. Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Um other things that need to be done, uh we need to replace ceiling tiles. There's many painted ceiling tiles that uh that ruins the fire rating on the tiles and that's not allowed. Is that job out or is that something her want? >> Um, that's something that's going to be done in in in house. Uh, we've already
made the we've already placed the order. I don't think they've been delivered yet, but uh we've already placed the order for that. >> Um, in a lot of the spaces where we're that we're going to occupy, there's uh miscellaneous lights light bulbs that need to be changed. >> Uh, we we have worked with our regional
energy manager >> um to uh bring in a company. I wasn't able to to be there, but uh they walked through with a lighting company with with our facilities manager to to look at the best options for the the building uh the rooms there.
>> Um but that could be depending on the cost of that that can be that could doesn't necessarily need to be something that's done immediately as long as >> as long as we have working light bulbs. Uh painting classrooms, painting hallways are on the list. >> Um talked about the electronic door locks. Mhm.
>> Um we have a quote from from um Valley Communications for that. There's a statewide contract uh for that work that requires a solicitation of three bids from vendors listed on the contract. I sent I sent two other additional solicitations out today. Um that's
around $40,000 for the for eight it would be eight doors. Um, we would save cost if we if instead of doing doors in the in those two locations, if if we were to do a wall or a temporary wall, it would obviously wouldn't have to incur that cost of the
the doors or um the electronic door locks there. Um, we're guessing it's going to be around probably around $15,000 a door in terms of those those four double doors. >> Um, security cameras. We have we have
the quote from from Valley for the security cameras to give us an idea of what it uh what that will cost. >> Sorry. Back to the door thing. So that's going to be um control where where's the main control going to be you know for that like >> like right now we have the the camera
stuff the server is in the cloud. So that's going to be cloud-based >> and so accessible by you, by Lauren, whichever. In terms of admin control, >> whoever has admin controls can can access it on premise or off premise. So if there's a uh some change in the
schedule with a let's just say community group needs decides not to use it, then somebody can just go on, >> okay, >> off the doors, which which will be helpful. And the camera thing again, we don't have >> We did talk to Tony about that and
>> I haven't heard back from him. I haven't heard back from Tony at this point. >> No, but I mean we had the brief conversation, you know, were they willing to, you know, put that into their rotation of dispatch monitoring and whichever. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> And they they seem to agree to that, >> but no specifics at that point. >> Right.
>> And I do think we did talk about off subject, but adding camera coverage at some of our other facilities. We have nothing at the senior center. Perhaps one at the highway department as well wouldn't be wrong. So yeah, >> and I I wouldn't even mind having one at
the transfer station for off hours to discourage >> as soon as we get the >> power. Yeah. Power have eyes up there cuz it's stop the beating path and sometimes there's >> Well, to be honest, we've had incidents up there where a little camera would have been pretty helpful in
understanding what happened. >> Yeah. So, >> okay. Sorry, >> but of course we have some there now. >> Just kidding. >> Yes. >> What? >> Um, >> is totally covered. All areas are
totally covered with cameras, >> right? >> Identify >> and the drone. >> So, you recall that the town has an approp uh a state uh a state earmark of $90,000 in the state budget that's currently on hold. Mhm. >> Um that was going to cover the cameras
and the electronic door locks. Um I checked in today. They don't they're expecting a decision in mid October as to whether that money will be released. >> Now the problem is if we spend >> Yeah. >> It's not a reimburseable year, Mark, right? Or it is. >> Um it is.
>> I asked them to check with uh administration and finance that if we went ahead and did it, >> they would cover >> before they released the hold that they would cover it. And they said yes. in writing. >> In writing. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> They never change their mind. >> Never. >> Yeah.
>> They never give us funding and then put it on hold. >> Uhhuh. >> Um so, um the IT upgrades that we need in the building, um those will hopefully start tomorrow. Um we've already uh purchased the equipment that we need for that at the end of the last fiscal year.
Um so that'll hopefully get the building uh all the switches updated >> and all the Wi-Fi set throughout the for all the occupied spaces in the building because that should start that should start tomorrow. Um internet uh we have put in an
installation request. We had a very very brief site visit where they said that we can request installation. That was the extent of our visit. Said yep and then we left. >> Mhm. >> That was worthwhile. also good use of an
hour. Um, again, office cleanouts, office setup, those will be a little bit later on in the process and most of the rooms are are are pretty clean. Um, sink candidate removals, bulletin bowl removals. Um, we have a meeting tomorrow to talk
about um the wells that are there now in relation to the um the septic system and what mass DP would like to see uh based on the change of use of the building. But we think that'll be uh we think we'll be able to resolve that pretty pretty easily.
>> Do we have a perhaps Don and I can have a bit of a walk through as well? >> Yep. Um we still need exterior sign. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Uh we still need exterior sign. >> Um I'd like to initially do interior signage, uh temporary interior signage.
Um, and then we'll have more permanent signage once we're comfortable with the space and how it works because maybe things might get moved around and we don't want to I don't think we should invest money in in permanent signage that we have to rip off the wall and crew poo somewhere else. Um, trash
recycling, we need to get dumpsters there. Um, fire extinguisher inspections, we need to get those updated. >> That was a question. And you were saying that you would have Herb talk to Selco about getting a quote on them doing the what they do here over in that building. >> I don't know if he has yet.
>> Okay. >> But yes, we did have that conversation. >> All right. And then obviously we need to tell them, hey, in December you're not coming over here, >> right? Yeah. >> So, so with all with all that said, my
hope is that that the move date would be would be mid November. >> We're still on track. >> Um, yeah, I would definitely >> right now seem like your biggest problem. The biggest thing is the doors, you know, control area control. >> Yep. >> I mean, >> I I'd like to have those in conversation
and that's I would like to have those in place and set >> before we move in. And the asbestous abatement flooring is also important to >> get that done. >> Okay. Talking about that, how's the fire department going? >> Uh, done.
Wrapped up quickly. Again, it might be just what happens in town, but the four tiles came up easier there, too. So, finished in a couple days. >> Okay. >> Um, so that's all that's that's set as well. They just got to get the dumpster out of here. >> Okay. >> They just move the asbesus outside right
now. >> Okay. Um, all right. Next on the thing, uh, we have a revised request for a joint meeting, >> uh, pushing it to October 9th, also at the IRK, I believe, the IRK.
>> What do they call the library? >> Is it 9th or the 7th? >> Ninth. >> Thursday night. >> So, it is. >> Yeah. Are we ninth? >> Let's see if we doing that. Um I did have a conversation with uh program
finance and they thought that was a good date for them. So participate in >> Are they going to come? >> Yeah. So they will be there. >> Yeah. >> Ain't that nice? >> So it does sound like a little more
opportunity for a good multi-board discussion sharing kumbaya event. I think in the diplomatic circles they call it a frank and honest discussion. >> Frank was not invited. Okay.
>> Are they bringing cookies or do we have to bring our own cookies? >> We have to stop at rice. >> Oh yeah. I already said in my calendar. >> So did they send out a >> No, agenda is still the same. >> I don't know if we actually seen the agenda per se, but they're looking for I
I'm looking for something from a board. Look, if they're going to schedule a meeting >> with all interested parties and everybody signed into it, are we going to go there on the 9th? I'm like, I'm looking for >> sure. We'll go. >> Okay, great. >> We'll go. >> Please reply back.
>> We're delighted to attend. >> Three and I'll have the >> one and two guests. >> I'll have the roast beef. >> I thought you were vegan this month. >> All right, great.
Um, we look forward to the agenda. Okay, correspondence. That was pretty much the correspondence right there. Oh, sorry. Correspondence. Uh, we have a request from a resident to have a discussion about a speed limit sim
similar to what Wolver did last year for gosh, what did they call it? Unposted roads. >> Yeah. And Brian, you did some research on that with the chief. And there's a little more to it than just >> has to be a density has to be
>> Yes. So what that applies to is is for for unposted roads where the where the area qualifies as a business district or thickly settled. >> Mhm. >> Then towns can have a local optin to reduce that uh default speed limit to 25. >> Right. >> Um but it only applies in those areas.
So it's not townwide per se. I I don't think and not even been here just as much you know in terms of thickly settled the sessions area perhaps uh you know Raymond Drive I think is the prime I said if we could do something there but we have a low speed limit there
people just ignore it >> right there right you can post what you want but um again I'd like to talk what can we do at Raymond Drive I still go back to I don't know how long metal does it is it William Street or whatever the
street is that next to Why? They have a couple of speed bumps there. >> Yeah. >> Chicken on a main road. >> Chicken be has on front street. >> Yeah. >> Gas on the speed limit. >> Yeah. On a regular road. >> They can pull right over on the bike. >> So that'll be about the only way I think. >> Yes. >> You really drop that speed down drive,
which is >> fine with me. If it's legal, do it. >> Sarah, what did Wolver have? Do does Wil have a townwide one? Do you know you >> for the 25? >> Yeah. Yes. >> It's what they passed last year, wasn't it? >> Yeah, they did. I just saw it like about a week or two ago.
>> Yeah, >> it's fairly recent. >> I think the sign says 25 unless >> posted >> is 25 throughout the town unless posted otherwise >> and I've seen it in other towns
you travel more than we do. >> But again, the key part is about the thickly settled. >> But the thickly settled is the key part right here. Yeah. which we don't have a lot of qualification for certainly not on the eastern side of town and where this this was directed for that road
would not be considered thickly settled at all. >> Glendo I double check but my understanding is that you you can designate there's two ways to designate it. You can do it by street. >> You can do it by street or you designate
it townwide quote unquote townwide. That's what it lists on the mass website. But the law says it's it's townwide for every >> thick we settled or business >> district how that works. >> Yeah. And the sign that I saw just basically said townwide.
>> Yeah. >> But it did speak, >> right? >> Otherwise um select board member reports. >> Was there any other correspondence Lauren or Brian? >> No. >> Yep. >> Anything to report? >> Nothing to report. We have a plan board
meeting on uh Friday, sorry, on Wednesday this week. >> Nothing to report. >> Okay, Brian, anything to report? >> Um, we received a uh resignation of our health director that'll be effective at the end of October. >> A tremendous loss, but knowing how good Finn was, I'm not surprised that he was
poached and going somewhere. So, >> the post chief assessment center is tomorrow for the the final four candidates. So, we would expect a recommendation from the consultant. Um, it's going to be all morning essentially. >> That's gonna be >> I thought you were going to be there for that, too. No,
>> that's gonna be a TW, >> right? >> Yeah. >> We can peek in the window. >> Hopefully, not the room with bad tiles. >> We can peek in the windows, >> right? >> Um, >> use the gym. The town received funding
for well funding equipment uh for RRFB which is the rectangular rapid flashing beacons for the uh for pedestrian for the crosswalk at uh Main Street in North Road here. >> The last one basically. >> So this makes our third
one. So that's that's a user activated. So you push the button and it flashes same as the other two. >> Yep. Are more visible in the in the crosswalk. And Brian, can we just back up to the late previous the police chief? Did they say when they were anticipating uh to let us know what the recommendation is?
Do they how long will that be? I think >> um I don't know exactly. I will ask him tomorrow and find out. I was hoping it would be I mean it's Tuesday. I was hoping it would be by the end of the week, but um >> yeah, I was hoping it would be the the following meeting. We could have we
could set up some idea would be that we I think the board would want to interview the final two candidates, right? So, are they weeding from four down to twos that they're playing? >> I think they'll give us the scores. >> Okay. >> I think they'll rank the candidates and then >> and then it's our choice. We want to bring in two, three, four. They all came
in with a point of each other. We might say, >> well, we're going to have to see all four or something. Okay. >> Right. There's there's no prescriptive way to do it, >> which we're all running. Should we create a a scorecard for ourselves, >> you know, when we interview the people?
So we all working off the same piece of paper. >> Not the uh the a hold up one like you did last time 4.5 from the Russian judge. >> Yeah, that's a good idea. You should take care of that. I >> think we had one last time.
>> Didn't Mary Ellen do something like that for the fire chief? It was a long time, right? >> Yeah. >> Kind of a deal. >> All right. That's a project. That'll keep me busy. >> Early morning.
>> Early morning. >> Early morning. Right. >> Anything from the uh the vast John, how's the water project going? >> Somewhere in January. Back equip. >> Is it the equipment supply? Is it still the pump house problem?
>> Y basically. Yeah. >> Pretty much done on the streets. >> It's just supply at this point. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They're finishing up the pump house, but can't rush it. >> Oh, also I don't know if everybody's
>> well not we changed it but you can email the new one to her. >> Um and I think I did see the report from the Ottabon for the deer pellets and the population has gone up I believe they said. >> Oh really? >> Yeah good to know. Mhm.
>> Okay. >> My wife and kids were walk and they were they were took a hike this weekend and walked right into a deer and didn't move. >> Pictures on the phone. I just took it just kept walking and just watch. >> What are you doing here? >> What do you mean? Pretty pretty
interesting pictures. Yeah. >> Okay. Well, if I see no other business coming before the board, >> do second. >> All in favor? I >> I Thank you all. Have a good week. Okay.