Good evening. This is a meeting of the Hampton Select Board and Board of Health being held in the townhouse auditorium on April 28th, 2025 at 6 p.m. This meeting is being conducted in person and remotely using video conference and technology. Please stand for the pledge
of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Going to journal. Is anyone recording
the meeting other than ourselves? And Kristen and Kristen Rivers from the Woodram Hampton Times recording. Good evening, Christian. Okay. Anyone else? Craig Craig is joining us as well. Uh uh
selectman select board member Revest is on as well. Okay. Hi Craig. Okay. The first thing on our agenda is the minutes, but we're going to skip those because uh select board member Revest is uh not going to be able to be
with us all this evening. So we'll we'll finish the minutes at the end of the meeting. We have with us the esteemed master plan committee of which you're a member, right? Of which I'm a member. What? What are you guys steamed? What are you guys steamed about? I thought it went well. We're
steamed. Yeah. Is Is Luke on? Yes. Okay. Pat. Yes. So, I think uh this evening our task is for the select board to accept the master plan. It was previously accepted by the planning
board. And I believe everyone has been able to review a copy. Uh, and just a couple highlights before I know Luke and Sophia perhaps want to add some comments. Um, just to highlight a few things. You know, this was a 15-month
project with the team from BHB, Luke and Julia, which I thought did just a great job on the town's behalf. Um, very helpful in us moving through the process. We met every Wednesday for 15 months. I think there was three
Wednesdays we didn't meet. Uh we completed the plan on time and actually I was going to say on budget but at the end of the day we're under budget by $651. So nice uh nice thing there. Uh the total cost of 133,000 75,000 was
covered by a state grant which Ryan helped us with. The project activities included we had an immersion day, stakeholder interviews, an economic development roundt, two public meetings, a popup event, and an online community survey. I think of it actually even in
its current state, we've immediate we've recognized certain benefits immediately. It's a great reference document for town facts. I mean, it really updated a lot of the things that people think they understood about the town and rolled them forward to the current time. It'll be great supporting
guidance for the planning board and our decision-making process and it's already proven to be useful in grant applications. I recall, Don, you said you you and Brian used some of the language there earlier. So, I want to thank our team. It was Dan Blanchard,
Don of course yourself, Connie Wit, Tad Brown, Joseph Bilia, and Heather Bey who joined us early on in the process and couldn't stay with us throughout it. And as I mentioned, the BHB team, Julia and Luke and their colleagues were great sources uh as we went through this
process. I'd like to think, you know, we reviewed we reviewed as a team every line of the of the document as as Don remembers through our Wednesday meeting. So, I think I got a very thorough scrubbing. So, I'm hopeful uh that the uh select board will accept the plan and
uh move forward. Thank you. Uh Luke, do you have anything to add or Julia? Yeah. Hi everybody. How are you? Um yeah, we had a a great time. We can do it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You guys hear me?
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hear him on my end. Craig's talking, but I couldn't hear him. on mute. So they have a good speaker. He hears Greg, too. We don't hear him. So where does that come out? Does it come out through here? They can hear us, though. They can hear
us, but we can't hear. Try again. Testing. Testing. No. Hello. That's just the microphone. That's the speaker. Testing. There we go.
Oh, great. Can you guys hear me now? Oh, okay. Great. So, yeah, thanks for uh just giving me a minute to to speak. I I'll keep it brief, but um yeah, Julia and I really led the charge, but there was other folks at VHB who helped us uh
including people who specialize in historic and cultural resources, people who specialize in sustainability, people who specialize in in transportation. Uh, and you know, we really enjoyed the process from from those early days when when we took a a
community tour and somebody was able to rent a party bus for us and that was a lot of fun. Uh, and we got to see uh all the all of the little uh neighborhoods and districts and the town center and all the the great facilities. So, uh really a great process. Uh the the
steering committee was so helpful at every turn. So, thank you guys for the energy that you brought. Uh, you guys had a lot of great ideas and really pushed us. Um, and the message that we heard loud and clear was, okay, yeah, you know, Hampton is a small town. Don't
we don't just want like a small town comp plan. We want to be a a small town of excellence. We want to be a sort of a model for what a small town can be in New England. uh not just now but sort of moving forward over the next coming decades when there's so much uncertainty
out there. So that's that's the sort of purview that that we had and and um we really enjoyed working through all the chapters. In the vision statement, what we said was while bordered by larger neighbors, Hampton prides itself on being a vibrant and resilient small town
offering an exceptional quality of life to its residents, visitors, and businesses. And Hampton's committed to balanced growth and preservation, enhanced open spaces, support for small businesses, inclusive opportunities, effective emergency services, climate
resilience, supporting education system, community engagement, and innovative planning. I won't go through all of the details of the chapters. You guys have copies of the plan. Um, but at a high level, you know, like so first chapter
is on land use. Um, of course, uh, Hampton is a small town, right? There's there's not, um, so much development happening year year upon year. Um, but that's great. That means that you can be really strategic about management and and sort of mitigating and facilitating
the right types of development in the right places while at the same time managing conservation. And that all that all factors into your land use regulatory framework and your zoning and the way that you do permitting and all that stuff. So there's a lot of good stuff in there about that. Second chapter is on
housing. Uh the population of Hampton is not increasing by a significant rate. In some years it's contracting. Okay. So but so the real driver for housing in Hampton isn't population growth. You still have demographic shifts that are
happening, right? And the two biggest ones are the population the median age is increasing. The population is getting older. And second, the then the the size of a household is getting smaller over time. By the way, that's not unique to Hampton. You see that all over the
place. So that you got to make sure that the housing inventory you have is keeping up to date with the needs of those shifting demographics. So there's a lot of stuff in there about that and how you can help advocate for the right types of housing. Third is economic development chapter. Just like any other
town, uh, Hampton needs to maintain a strong commercial tax base to help share the costs, the increasing costs, I should add, of running a municipality, which I'll tell you, we work for so many municipalities in Massachusetts and the number of towns that are going up
against Proposition 2 and a half and and trying to get an override and they're struggling with increasing costs for running a municipality. It's like serious, right? So, there's just inflation impacts towns, too. So just stresses the importance of of your commercial tax base and also of course
job creation. Uh the fourth chapter is about historic and cultural resources. You're located in New England which has some of the best most fascinating history in the country. But that history doesn't always reveal itself. You got to take actions to make sure it's revealed and you can explore it and celebrate it
uh and help uh boost your economic development by you taking advantage of that. So, uh, all right, I'll keep going, though. Chapter five is public facilities and services. Uh, it's more than more. It's about more than just utilities, you know, it's about roads,
utilities, services, and including soft infrastructure of the town government and the boards that you have in place and what their roles are and how they're working together and also how the government is interacting with the community. What's the what's the what are the uh techniques for outreach and
and online and offline? Sixth chapter is open space and wreck. 76% of Hamen is undeveloped. 64% is like beautiful forest. You got all this great open space, including a lot of managed open
space, some Ottabon land, a lot of land that's in chapter 61. Okay. So, it's all about maintaining and strengthening that because it's such a great asset and really a differentiator. One thing that makes Hampton so great. Seventh out of eight chapters is on resiliency and
climate. Obviously, this is impacting everyone in Hamen. It it might mean increased flooding, stress from increasing heats, uh extreme weather events. Uh so, there's a lot in the plan about dealing with that resilience. And
by the way, much of that is how can you go pursue other people's money, state money, federal money to to tackle those issues which are increasingly urgent. Chapter eight and the last chapter is about transportation and mobility. We work in a lot of communities that have
bus and rail and all sorts of stuff. Uh you don't have so much of those systems in Hampton. It's really about the roads. So great, lean into that. make sure that the roadways are as strong as they need to be and equipped with the right infrastructure. One of the big questions
is about traffic lights. Do they belong in this intersection or that intersection? So, we get into that in the plan. Uh and then certainly also we thought about uh people walking and people riding bikes. Do they have the the spaces they need to navigate the community in the in the way that they
want to? Um and then the last thing I won't go on too much longer about is about implementation. We at VHB on our planning team are always very very interested in how you going to get the plan implemented because this is the end of the planning process but it is the
beginning of a long period when you need to implement what's uh codified in the plan was written in the plan. Uh so you are at in a unique position because you don't have a town planner. Many towns have town planners. Hampton's small enough a lot of towns with the same
population size that you have don't have a town planner. So that that's that that becomes the central challenge of this comp plan. How are you going to implement it if you don't have that champion whose job 40 hours a week is to is to manage the planning in in Hampton.
So that's a real challenge that we have asked the committee and others in the public meetings to really focus on which is okay that doesn't mean you can't do it just means you got to be intentional about how you do it. Who are you going to tap to make sure that you have the right network of people who are going to be meeting on a regular basis? Maybe
there's another committee kind of like the master plan committee. It could be an implementation committee. By the way, we work in Westboro where they've formed an implementation committee. They've had great success over the past four years and they're and they're, you know, starting to implement 10 15 20% of the actions from the comp plan. Um, so I
would just leave you with that thought which is on implementation which is so important. Please be intentional and and keep that energy up because the next six months are going to be that critical part of the implementation timeline when this plan can either lose steam or you
can keep the ball rolling and build that momentum to get to get uh an implementation routine and process in place. So that that's all I'll say, but thank you guys again for having us uh to prepare this plan. We learned so much and we met so many great people. Thank you, Luke. Thank you, Luke. John, do you
mean that? Well, I think uh certainly a notable improvement over the last one in 82. And that one uh showed basically they did a cookie cutter approach to the town said, "Oh, you can have 19,000 people here because they just divided up not understanding
where's a cliff. Okay, you're not putting house in the middle of the river." I think the thoroughess that VHB did along with this great committee, um this wasn't going to be a one-month project. They went through the thing from top to bottom and I think everybody
who were on the committee took their own personal experiences to bring it into what they knew and I can see everything reflected in here. I thank you Greg. Uh I don't have anything to add other than what John just said is it looks
like a thorough plan and uh I appreciate the thought of keeping The open space that is open space any other members members additional comments. Did I did I freeze
up there? Sorry. Yeah, you did. Yeah. Go ahead. You have one minute. Pat divided among your committee. Yeah, I think I would just say that I've already started to implement some of the action plan items that were listed in the plan in the in the plan. So it is, you know,
guidance for me as park director to implement those things in the plan. So I'm using it as, you know, guidance for our department. I would entertain a motion to accept the plan. I will make that motion. Is there a second? Any further
discussion? All in favor? I I Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. Get your gifts and there's a cookie here for the committee if you'd like. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next item in the agenda is a parks and wreck fundraising event
discussion. Yeah. So, uh I'm coming to you guys to talk about a plan for a community concert um called Rocket to Summer. It's sort of to celebrate the start of summer and hopefully maybe show off the possibilities of what we can do with our new municipal office space
building area. Um it's really about uh creating an annual community event. I'd like to make this annual if we can to bring Hampton residents and families together um while also supporting local and resident uh businesses. So um you know a lot of the the things I have
planned include um bringing in people from town to for instance the band that I have um signed up for the date. The lead singer is from Hampton. So we're trying to keep it as local as possible. Um is that Dale? Dale. Yeah. From
general jazz. Um, we're looking to do this on uh June 19th, 2025, which is a Thursday, uh, at TWWB. Uh, the concert would go, it's an outdoor concert, would go from approximately 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Parking lot would probably open at
5:00 p.m. Um, it's a free event for the town. Um, however, we would be accepting donations to the Recreation Association of Hampton, which is kind of our financing arm or our donations arm. So, we would have people uh or volunteers
collecting money um when accessing the property to park if they so choose to. We'll also probably have some QR codes for if people need to make online donations that don't have cash. Um expected attendance is probably somewhere I think we consider the event
a success if we had 200 people there. I have I think it's fairly weather dependent. Um, if we have good weather, I think we could see a big turnout, but if I had to put a number on it, I'd say probably somewhere between 200 to 400 people. Um, we're not going to do a rain day. We the band is available at this
time. Um, they are a busy band. We don't want to go up against the Fountain Park Summer Concert Series, which begins the next week. Um, so we're kind of locked in this day. If we get a rain out, it's just going to be cancelled. Um, there's approximately 109 parking spots at TWWB.
We have some overflow area. Um, if I could share my screen, I can kind of just show you a layout of what I've planned for the event. Let me request that if I can. Screen disable participant screen sharing.
Can I request that? Did I put participants? That's fine. I'm going to request share. Is that going through? I'm going to request it. Okay, there we go.
It should be coming up. Yeah. So, here's the overhead of TWWB. Um, this would be this is obviously the entryway into TWWB. This is where we'd have two lanes splitting out here to have cars funnel into two lanes, probably collecting cash if anybody that
wanted to donate. Um, we can have volunteer assist to assist people parking if it's that busy. Uh, you can see I've noted overflow parking here. For some reason, we were able to fill the lot with 190 places. Um there's a handy This will be blocked off here
except for handicap parking. We'll have as many handicap spots as we need over here. Um it's my intention to bring in some local food trucks. Um I've talked to Barendino Maple. Um I've talked to Batch Ice Cream and they'll probably I'll probably be reaching out to a a
couple other local um food vendors that may be willing to come in and um and uh and share food for us. Um bathrooms will be over here. The band will have three porta johns on site. We have the band stage will be
right behind the building and then you have your public viewing area here. Um I also have someone that's going to submit a one-day liquor license to um to possibly have a beer and wine garden. Um if that's something we can take a look at. I put in for the entertainment
license with Lauren this morning. Um and then I have requested the facility use with the school district. Um, today I I emailed that over to them today. Um, for safety, uh, I'll be meeting with the Hampton Fire Department or Hampton
Police Department to discuss safety, traffic, and the beer garden if that gets approved. Um, the food trucks will be submitting applications for the health department and inspected by the fire department. Uh, like I said, we have three portable bathrooms on site. Concert goers will not be going into the
building. Uh this is strictly an outdoor event and uh there'll be first aid kits on site. I have it'll allow me does it allow me to show this share this? I have to request that separately. I was going to show you some marketing materials but
I guess I have to do that separately. So here don't think we need to see that. So this should be coming up I think. Yeah. So this is the band. This is that's Dale our our local resident. He runs our pickle ball program as well. He does a great job with that.
Um, this is a draft of some marketing materials that we put together. Um, the show's Dale, some quick information about the the the um about the event. Uh, all of this is not been shared publicly. It's just um this is all
editable based on decisions that are made um about the event and approvals. And then there's another quick picture of Dale there. Um, and then this is uh on our parks and wreck website, our my recre site uh up here. This is not available
for public view yet, but this is the information gathering event here. We'll probably also have a uh a QR code here if people wanted to donate uh via the website as well to the recreation association. Um, not
sure if there's anything else I have. So that's the plan and obviously it's contingent on approval of the entertainment license um approval of the one day liquor license and approval by the facility
request um over to the school district. Go ahead. I guess my question is why are we having it now instead of keeping the fall fest thing going which is very similar. So Oh, it's not similar at all. No, they had food trucks, they had vendors, they had I thought this would
be a normal look at what we have here. Hey, that Fall Fest was great. Why don't we throw some entertainment on it, too? Well, why not create more events for the community to be involved? And I think that we rely too much on Fall Fest as our one event that we do for the residents in town. Um, so I think it
would be nice to have something to kick off the summer to celebrate the end of school. The kids get out of school, I believe, the day before. Um, so it's just trying to bring more to the community, more events to the community. Well, what is the ban going to be paid?
Yes. Is the police going to be paid over to their their thing? And who else you got there? Well, it's not just overtime. Not just overtime, Don. It's it's Junth, so it's triple time. They get paid for the holiday plus twice for coming time two double time for
coming in. Okay. Just saying. So I'm I'm asking, do you think you're going to make money on it? No, it's not a money making event. But uh Well, so yeah, we have to pay all these things. We uh myself and the board, we're okay with not making money on this. Accepting
donation. This is more of an event for the community to come. We're only doing to accepting donations to defay some of the costs. Is the Rob board paying for it or is the parks and wreck paying for it? Uh the rob will be paying for parks and wreck will be paying for it. Yes,
parks and wreck will be paying for it. Right. Because you can't accept the donations. Parks and wreck can only rock. Only rock can. So it'll be coming out of our revolving account as an event or program for us and um and then we'll be reimbursed by any donations that come
into the raw. No, Rock can't send you money. Rock cannot give the parks rec board money. Rock can pay for things directly. They cannot transfer money to park a wreck. Oh, that's news to me. No, for
somebody who was president of RAW and my wife was chairman of the parks and rec board, that's how it is. Oh, maybe it's something we can look at something. I'm saying though there's a separation just like Don was saying, they can donate to RAW. They cannot donate to you. Okay, that's why you have friends
aboard. You have friends of the seniors, friends of the library, friends of Then how do you get money from them to do that? They ra can pay raw can pay for right pay them directly. They can't give you money to pay them. Can I pay can I pay the raw back? Then we're just
talking semantics. If if Rob pays the money and I pay them back from from from the parks and wreck account, then it's just doesn't matter. We can do it that way. You're you're going to pay you're going to pay the you're going to pay the police and you're going to pay the the right I don't know what what else the
band you're going to pay the police and the band out of the re out of your revolving account that was the plan which you can do because that money comes in from programs from programs if that's part of the definition of the revolving fund. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Right. Okay. And the beer garden is just there and the person who runs the beer garden gets the profits. No, they are donating. Well, they will get some profits to probably cover their cost. They are donating a pro portion of
their proceeds to uh the rock. Okay, nice. And they've also said that they would hire the security um detail for in addition to the Hampton PD, but they would hire their own security detail to make sure that that was properly um observed or you know
put in place. Okay. And they're going to do I mean from reading what he sent they're going to do the wristband. Yeah. And special cops. Very similar to the U 4th of July carnival. Yeah. I haven't been to that in the East. That's what he does. The East Long Meadow one. Yeah. I used to be part of the Casey's over there back. I was thinking the La Palooa
concert I went to in ' 83. Oh, weren't you at Burning Man, Don? I go to Burning Man, but have been a few La Palooas. I'm sure have that at Woodstock. We didn't have that at Woodstock. No. Which one?
So, the first thing you got to do is get permission from the the school, right? Yeah. Well, I think so. I haven't reached out to them about the liquor license, of course. Um I think that the steps are to get your approval on the entertainment license first. I don't if I don't get that, then there's no sense of going any further with that. Um I
think then it would be for John to get the approval of the liquor license from you guys. um because there's no sense in reaching out to them if that's not going to happen as well. So that they're kind of my last step as far as talking about I've reserved the facility with them. Uh but they're my last step in approaching
them about the beer wine garden. Well, I think personally the entertainment part is the easy part. Easy part. I think the uh the question raised about on June 19th the property is under the charge of it's still covered by school. Yeah, that
is definitely the the area that will have to be figured out, right? And you know, I'll have to discuss with them and see what they're willing to do. Um if they're willing to do it or you know Yeah. And certainly we've never had a history of
allowing alcoholic sales on either town or school property that I can recall. So that might be a question. That's a question m over. What's that say again? I say we've never allowed liquor sales on school or town property
that I can recall. Yeah. Certainly not school. Can I ask how many applications you've received on for that though? I don't think we've had an application because it's known that we don't. You know, people say, "Can I have a retirement thing or a celebration of life at the town hall?" Yes, but you
won't get a liquor license. Oh, well, we'll go somewhere else. Um, when you say that we don't you don't allow liquor sales on on um town property, how does the senior center fold into that? I know they have a liquor license that they get quite a few
times a year for events there. That's town property. How what about that? Typically that for those things, I know that for instance, Mr. Sullivan said he worked with the senior center and I called over. They'd never heard of him. So, you know, but probably that's not my question. I understand that. I
understand that. So, I think that's part of the consideration the board's going to have is that is that where we want to go with this, you know, starting that down that road. Craig, do you have any comment? Are you still here? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Can you hear me now? Hopefully,
I'm not glitching out anymore. Go ahead. Um, well, first, I think any community building event we have is awesome, and I I think it's a great idea to have that event there outside of the Fall Fest. Um, secondly, um, I'm indifferent to the liquor permit
at the moment. I know it falls under the school jurisdiction, so that's why I have some questions. I would also have some safety and logistics questions with the liquor permit. I guess my question for you, Dan, is is the liquor permit contingent on the whole premises of the
idea or if you have the entertainment permit, can you still go forward in that aspect? Yeah. No, I would still go forward without the beer and and and wine garden. I just think that it's a unique thing that we've never done before. Uh, parks and recck struggles to
get residents to do things. Um, I think Hamden falls into the this is how we've done it for 50 years and so that's the way we're going to continue to do it. And I'm not of that mindset. I'm of a I'm an innovator that wants to try new things and get more community
involvement. And I think that's really where we struggle um you know to from parks and recck perspective to get um people to come out to events to come do things to try new things. So um that's the reason for the beer garden is I think it's a really cool thing for a dad
to be able to have a beer while he's sitting there having a picnic and listening to some music with his family while his kids are off running around playing sports, playing with their friends. um all together in one community location. Kind of like the Fern Valley thing they're having during
the summer. Same thing. Dan, would you I got one other thing if that's okay. Go ahead. Dan, would you be opposed to writing up like a safety plan as far as the alcohol consumption would go? I know you talked the vendor had some higher security and stuff, but you know, maybe if you presented the board with some
type of contingency for safety that it might, you know, go in favor. Not saying it would, I'm just saying, you know, the little bit it would help. You know, I will say that, Dan, I think the resume Mr. Sullivan had is impressive. Yeah, he has a lot of background in this type of event. Thank you. What he said, I was
going to I was going I'll second that. I have no problem doing that, Craig. You know, that would be a discussion that I would have with Mr. Sullivan. He has done like like John said, he has done this, you know, he does the uh the Fourth of July celebration where he hosts a beer garden in East Long Meadow.
uh he's done this quite a few times. He owns multiple um multiple bars. He uh is very involved with the community. He's involved with the above the influence group at Minuteog. Um so he is aware of the safety issues that need to be we've
had a quick discussion about safety and um him bringing in security staff to to make sure that safety is uh a paramount to the event. And um I'm happy to have more discussions with him and iron out more details and get you more of a specific plan, but I I don't I don't I
read his his proposal to you. I don't remember how detailed it was on the security detail, but I can certainly get more information and come to you with that. That's not a problem. I don't recall reading on the forums any issues in East Law Meadow in the beer garden in the past couple years. So I think he runs that pretty well. One other
concern, Don, you brought this up in regard to town meeting that the lighting isn't great late at the park. So, at the school, so that might be something to consider. Uh, we had highway. I think it's almost the longest day of the year. I think it could be. It could be. I'm
just saying that, you know, and maybe we've got a few people, you know, tight parking, stuff like that. So, something to think about. Yeah, absolutely. Um, you know, we are trying to keep this as easy as possible. I'm not trying to make this into a huge headache for the residents, for you guys, for the parks and rec department.
I'm just trying to make a quick easy community event that um that the town can enjoy. So guys, there was a question from Zoom asking about the date and could it be on 4th of July so that fireworks could be included?
Um I don't know if the band is available on the 4th of July. I know that they are very busy. The band had this day available. We I gave we talked about multiple dates. was the only one that they could do. It happens to be Junth. Um I'll acknowledge that as I address the crowd before the concert starts.
It's not a Junth celebration, but you know, I will acknowledge the day for sure. Um but yeah, we, you know, I've discussed with the band. We've hammered out this date. I don't think we're going to be moving it to um the busiest weekend for a lot of families um in the summertime.
I wonder if they're going to allow as many fireworks as I mean we're already still already started into high drought. I wouldn't be surprised if the state has an advisory saying cut it back. The first thing you need is an
entertainment license. Yes, sir. Okay. Is Is there a motion for an enter? Do we have it? Do we have it? You just gave me an application today, so it wasn't on the agenda. I didn't know if we wanted to wait until we Yeah. That's the district. We figure out the alcohol part too or Well, he needs the entertainment.
I don't have the entertainment license. We don't give the entertainment license. There's no point. Agenda like what Lauren saying, but the application is this is like you were giving us an overview tonight basically. Right. Yeah. I just I wanted to get that to her today in case you had reviewed it. But that's fine. I don't mind
waiting for that. Yeah. Yeah. Can I ask a question? Shortly. What kind of rock band is this band? They play like classic rock, blues, um, summertime, like country rock. They play a lot of things. They They're a cover band
obviously. So, this isn't a hard rock or punk rock or metal, heavy metal. Sorry. The bad thing is, Connie, the definition of classic rock has slid from No, honey. It's it's it's um Well, I'm just thinking about the kinds of crowds.
I mean, different kinds of rock attract different kinds of crowds. I think you're looking at the typical crowd right here of Dan, right? Well, at this age, so Dale has a Dale definitely has a band following that will be coming out to the show, but I mean, if I'm being
honest, it's probably people that are 40 to 60 years old that enjoy raise your hand, all the young people. We found that they played for the veterans association as a fundraiser for the veteran cemetery. Sure. So, you know, it
was wellreceived with the group that they performed for. Yeah. I mean, they play and they play a lot of different songs. Oh, yeah. Know Dale well. He's very good at what he does. And if anything happens, he is a justice of the peace. If anybody feels motivated that
anybody wants to do that enough to site exactly something else done. No, bring them in next week. Bring We'll defer this to next week. Okay. All right. Good. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. And good job on the master plan part.
Um, the next item on the agenda is a DFW event discussion. Got a band. No discussion. Oh, you got to see if they're available first. That is an option. Definitely.
All right. The background if I could Don background is a typical request for a one-day license from the VFW uh where they used the pavilion to serve alcohol which is not covered under their general license that's come to the board a number of
times. Typically in the past, the board has not entertained, if you will, graduation parties because we've always been concerned about the fact, well, the age is 21, you've got an 18 year old graduation party. How's that look? But I
said, Dan, maybe we don't need to keep things going the way they've always been. Oh, music to my ears. I knew that's why I want to make sure you were paying attention. So, I said, you know, maybe it's time to revisit this. and we haven't had a chance to have them come
in and talk about what they have in place because we're making an assumption and we've never had a report of an incident there. Even the turkey shoots, they haven't hit a turkey in years. I mean, it's just everyone's been safe. Um, so
before you start, can we get a little update on basically what happens? Absolutely. Um, so we set up a bar over We set up a bar. No, no, you are. I'm just also my name is Laura Grimmaldi. I am a manager at the BFW. Long time manager since 2002. I've worked there
since 1996. Um all of my bartenders are tip certified. Um generally when we have a pavilion there's a few of the members around, especially if there's, you know, we think there's going to be kids around. Always keeping an eye. Um the
contract that they sign states that they cannot go from the bar to the pavilion. from the pavilion to the bar with alcohol. There is no alcohol in the parking lot. If we see that, we call them in. If I see anybody that has brought their own alcohol, and I can
probably count on one hand the number of times it's happened, I immediately take it away and I dump it out. And that's get one one shot. If I find it again, if your party's done, um, like I said, we've had no issues.
We've had no issues in a long time. Um kids, you know, my because I know we did I think Keith or somebody brought this up um in the beginning of the year because I do get quite a few calls for graduation parties and I always say college or high school. And if they say
high school, I say I'm sorry. Um you know, I'll get a request for a family reunion and I don't know when they're bringing their if there's going to be 15, eight year old, 18 year olds. I don't know. Generally, when there's a lot of kids, I do have the the liquor
distributors will give me the bracelets so my bartender will only have to card one time. They don't have to keep carding and keep carding. Um, and if it, you know, and then we just keep an eye on them the best we can. And nine times out of 10, you know, the parents are
there for. And in my experience, even with the college graduations I have, my experience is it's usually family oriented. It's not, hey, invite all your invite all your high school friends to this party. You know, all the high school kids have a poor group of small
kids, so there may be five five or six kids. The one issue I've heard, and I called around other communities to see what they do, they said the serving is not the issue they typically have. It's the unguarded drinks. That's where they
see the problem. They don't see kids going up and trying to sneak one from the bartender. They seem to go around table and you know, Uncle Bob left his beer and they grabbed it. So if you have personnel in place like I mean you got potentially you said up to 50 60 people
Paul about that. Okay. So I mean if you've got a pretty good number of people on the river side basically then that's what we're looking for. Like I say the partnership with the VFW has been fantastic over the years. So, I
think it's time to maybe make a little change in the way we do it and open up a bit and trust you for it. So, and while I've got the floor, I'd also like to mention to you if this doesn't fall through, you're welcome to use our facility for any type of
fundraiser. We be happy to have you. Obviously, not it wouldn't be the family part so much, but if you wanted to do some kind of fundraiser, you know, we're happy to partner. No shooting. No shooting. Yeah, we won't do it on a Turkish.
So, I just wanted Don to uh give that want to give a brief overview of why they're here and where we're going with this. That was very nice. Well, thank you, Don. Thank you, Greg. Um, yeah, I don't have an issue with it
as, you know, if you're serving alcohol indoors or outdoors. So, I mean, I'm okay with it. He's talking. Can you not hear me? Is he on mute? No. He's been having connection issues. Hang on. Be going down again. Death test.
Okay, you got me now. Yeah. Yeah. There must be a delay from when I unmute to when I actually talk. So, but I don't have an issue with it. Um I think you know if you're serving alcohol indoors or outdoors, the pavilion is technically part of the facility to me. So, I don't
I don't have a problem. Okay. How many people are you expecting? We have about 55 60 people invited of which um 15 of which are between the ages of 2 and 18. Uh I think six or seven are 13
to 18 just to give you an idea. But that's the invite list. You don't know invite list. I can't gotten that far yet. Um but there none of the children are invited without their families. I don't know if that makes a difference. It's very much a family um party on June
22nd. They'll be looking for another party after the uh the big event. So, I'll make a motion to make the request. Now that you've gone liberal on me, go ahead and make your motion. I don't even know you anymore.
make a motion to grant the one day liquor license for the uh pavilion at the VFW on June 22nd and the time was what is there a form here? The time I was looking at early
afternoon like yeah I haven't formally put in a request for yet. So over by what time do you think? I don't see it going past 6:00. Should be able to fish him out of the river pretty easy by then. Yeah. So 12 we're going to the concert, man. What
are you talking about? 12 to 6. Well, we just get ready. Okay. So, she hasn't submitted the license yet, right? I haven't do that. Do you need an exact time? Generally, they we because I don't
always have an exact time. They generally do 12 to 12. So that because sometimes I request them and the people really haven't set their party time yet. That would be appreciated. I I because of the particular one I would do 1 to 7.
Yes, that's fine. It's a Sunday afternoon. We're not we're not there at midnight. As long as you're there after after church and you're home in time. All right. Got to go to the concert. Don't forget. No, that's that's before that. That's before that. Oh, I'm sorry. From All right. So, one day a one-day
permit for the pavilion on June 22nd from 1:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Contingent upon them filing the form. Form. Yeah. I will I wanted to do this and I will email you all my requests. I do have
several. Any second? Okay, that could have been a second. It was a Any further discussion? Second. Third. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? I Paul, you had I just wanted to make a comment, Dan. I just want to
applaud you for that effort. And I know it seems a little biased right now given our current situation, but I think that the town should support that more. you know, having the opportunity to do something in your own your own backyard way foreshadowing that I mean support that.
That's great. We should support that a little bit more by giving the flexibility with having people adults respectively cocktail. It really helps make it come to fruition. Thank you guys for that. Next item on the agenda is we're meeting
with the advisory committee to go over some budgetary items as we approach the town meeting. You all can stay. It's exciting. No, no, everybody can stay. It's exciting. Full committee. Is it something we said? We are outnumbered.
Something Is it something we said? They're all leaving. People usually leave the advisory meetings. We feel outnumbered. Usually run away. Yeah, exactly. Wow. We usually We usually keep them in the distance. Cassandra, is it almost time for the TV
thing? When is that? The 2. May you need any extra copies? Okay. What are you doing? I'm sending you a message privately so no one will see it now. What do you
think I'm doing? So go ahead. We have we have several issues we'd like to discuss. And here we are. All right. Do you want to call yourselves to order or just uh No, we don't. We don't. You know, stand up for me. Yeah, we
we meet and then we disband just like that. Well, thank you for coming in tonight. Yeah, I'll put that in the minutes. Okay. How do you go about amending line items from the floor? Yeah.
So when when the when the moderator says, "Okay, accountant," you know how he does it. Accountants total 88,184, someone has to stand up and say, "I move we lower the amount to $10, right?" Or
we lower the amount to $50,000. Uh then what we have to do is we have to flow that through and change all the but do you do the line you do the specific line like line 1.1 or 1? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. And then obviously the the the total numbers at the each end of each category you have and then when we vote on that right so so the frankly we like to avoid amending
the the line items to the extent that we can because it creates a lot of confusion. Um especially if the amendment is early on in the budget because then we have to amend all the way through. I get some math work. So did you have
some specific line items? We do a little first can we talk about why because Brian came up with a bit of a spreadsheet showing a potential fail. That's why we're looking to see where we could, you know, do some savings
perhaps. We're looking for savings. Basically, Brian showed that potentially this could be a pretty impactful year on the average tax bone. Brian, your number was in the potentially over 7% at least, right? Yeah. Yeah. With the warrant articles as
presented. Yeah. There's there's certain assumptions, right? Baked in there. side the budget you know that the budget requests are up over 7%. Mhm. Doesn't follow that you know that the tax rate go up 7%. I mean that that's a separate discussion but
but clearly impactful. No he had it down that's was the tax rate going up that bad. Okay. Um so we wanted to see if we could get together with you all look at places where even though we think obviously all these are very
justified sometimes it's not the right right year sometimes you have to make cold decisions let's let's hear what you have in mind and take a look at I think advisory expenses are just way out of sight you keep speaking to us one thing you want to start or Sure go ahead maybe
we'll go start at the bottom and or go through and yeah. Okay. So, the first thing I was thinking about was the county retirement. So, 6.0. Yep. 6.0. All right. We always pay that in
time. And so, if we paid it on time this year and just made that that amount 916,000, we could save $10,000. Take $10,000 out there. Yeah. Yeah. We we we've paid, you know, paid that discounted figure for years, right?
Years. Um, but we generally put in the actual assessment, right? So that knowing that that is going to create a free cash, you know, at the end of the year. Okay. So, you know, to a to a certain extent, it's building in a little
flexibility end of the year. All right. That's that's one item I have. uh insurance and property and liability. We had checked with the insurance company today and what could they do? told you that um we I I think I would be
comfortable with a number closer to uh 225 225,000 based on the information we got today cuz there's about even even now with at the end of the fiscal year there's about what is there 20 20 something,000
26,000 left in there and typically those those expenses are paid at the beginning of the fiscal year. So we're thinking going down to 225 on that. So that's 13K. Yeah, that's 13K. This will of course we we all put
into the select for the salary cup. Yeah, I would be comfortable with reducing long claims as well. I think we've gotten past the large things that were on our plate in the past couple of years. We started at 90, we came down to 75. I think we could certainly do another 10 off of that and still be
covered if something comes up. That's what the preserve account is for. Which number's that go down to 65? Next one down. Yeah. Want to go down to 65. Yeah.
Okay. Register voter selectment. Okay. Uh town meeting support at 12.9. Right. We were thinking of budgeting just for one town meeting, you know, the fall the found with the for the a fall
town meeting 8500 and then, you know, keeping an eye on the selectman's expense account for the next for the annual for the annual if we need to, you know, do that. So reduce that in half. Yeah. Yeah. 8,500.
8,500. Now, Brian, I know you said we had a there was an offer if we booked two things, we got a discount. Does this affect that? Okay. Right. Yeah. But it's going to be within a couple hundred bucks as well. Right. They just said they would hold this year's pricing
this year's pricing over to next year. I don't know what the difference would be. Well, tell them we're going to do it and then we can cancel if we do it. Now, another heads up on that, Doug, just because they're they will be they are booked for the uh town meeting in May. which is not in our budget at this
point. We probably would have to ask you for a reserve fund to pay for the AV in May. If we don't have the I don't we're over on selection expense now. Yeah, but that's because we paid for the Oh, well, right. So, you pay for May. No, no, we paid for
the um last year's election. Yeah. So, we're over now, right? So, we don't have the rest of the year. for the rest of the year. But if we get the 8,500 in July, that's October. And then we Right. But we won't have any money to pay for
next month's in May. Oh. Oh. Oh. Well, you're talking about this year. So, we probably reserve for that. Okay. You're talking. We had we had some discussion about that. you know, our sense was, you know, it's a lot of money, tell me, but we also
thought that the quality of the audio, the video was unmatched. We've never had anything close to it, right? No. Um, so if we're going to do it, we, you know, we have to do it correctly. Well, if you went up their area on the corner there, it was like walking up to a concert. The equipment
they had there, incredible. So we we'd like to go to 80. Please everyone go to 8500 and go from there. Okay. Veterans better town administrator. You know what else you got? Conservation permission. What? The one right before town meeting.
Oh yeah. Storm water management. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. 12.8 50k. They're they're talking 32 now. T is talking 32 and we're thinking and they said it might be a little bit different but we're thinking 35 right
lowering that from 50 to 35 if you remember John that was going to be sliding down every year as things were done anyhow. Yeah. Um the other choice we have is progress is pretty good on the transfer station
part. Um I think a potential a potential there is that we had talked about dropping that down because we were having people hooked up 23. Yeah. 23.0. I think we could be comfortable with by the time everybody's hooked up this year
comfortable down going down to 75 or 80 on that. 80. 80. You want to go to 80? Yep. I can see Doug now with I move I may be out of town and make
Yeah. As long as you're back for June 19th, that's all we care. Junth, that's it. Building repairs. That's out of there now. There's nothing. It'll be easier to amend during the fall. Well, maybe that's the thought I'm saving to the end here. All right.
Sorry. Yeah. Spoiler alert. Yeah. What? It it may be easier to let the numbers flow and then in the fall we can between a the can do a revision of whatever numbers
um and do the reconciliation then basically. Yeah. Because this is this was going to be chaos entire town meeting is going to be saying what what lines that what hour is that? How much? As long as you have your special town meeting before you set the
tax rate. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Which frankly we have become so dependent upon that. Mhm. Okay. We got nothing. Okay. Well, I do think uh 33.0
32.0. Um I think heat and utilities is going to be coming down quite a bit. Obviously, we're not in here and you guys probably talked about that. Not that we have a sense of it, but we're
also going to be paying for TWWP, but not under this line. I wouldn't think. Or is it going to be pretty? I don't know. But I think it was in there. There's that one. We actually had discussion about power naming it, configuring that because townhouse maintenance is also
where the facilities manager was put, right? Yeah. the facilities manager is isn't limited to the townhouse to all property. So we had discussions about both facilities dire facilities manager and the utilities issue and our
understanding is that utilities are both buildings. Well, I think the problem then if if you're saying townhouse maintenance is now inclusive of both building expenses, uh just a heads up, I don't think custodial is even going to be close to
the number you truly need. If we were seeing a charge of 11,000 for this building on an annual basis, we don't have custodial right per se for a thorn emergency building anywhere. So, did you include that
anywhere else? No. Yeah. Well, in my in my way of thinking it the it was a facilities manager/hhead custodian. And so that's what I thought you would supplement some of that custodian work. And we had we had cut that in half pretty much. Well, right. 40k 40k.
I think you would I think you would need 40k just for the custodial part, let alone facilities. Well, you're going to have 11 anyway, right? Because that's what you paid here. Something's going to be here. Obviously, you do some work here, but yeah. nothing like we're not going to be, you know, really very
little if anything here. The funny thing is the other buildings, the highway department, the fire department, they do their own. You know, the people up there volunteer and do all their custodial work, cleaning the bathrooms, etc. Right. So what was I'm going to say the vision
of custodial services for Burton Burgess and we don't have to talk about it now but that's one of the things but you know assuming that the vote is to approve the move to TWB. It's going to take a year of
experience oh yeah get a better handle are you know these are the best estimate that we can come up with. That's one industry senior center agenda. I'm impressed by many of the departments that really didn't go up especially look
at highway besides a contractual you know raises equipment nothing and you go back to the paving thing they lose money on that as the cost of good goes up they do less with the money they've got. So,
just as an aside, there's some well, I don't know what the the what the regulatory environment will be over the next couple years, but there's concerns that as there's a more push towards uh EV for heavy duty vehicles, that that cost is going to get passed on to the
municipalities when we have to pave roads because now they're going to have to cover costs for, you know, replacing their fleet and all that's going to get passed on. So, it's likely to even get more expensive as as we move forward. So, and we're hoping that goes
away less expensive. Yes. Well, short term be nicely paid for us and nobody will be able to afford cars to drive. No, it's the truck. The cost of the truck that the truck there is no vehicle heavy heavy vehicle that is right now
approved. So so that cost will get us even less per mile per dollar in terms of what we can pay for. Yes. So go back to to your point John I mean that you know all the department heads met with us cases more than once you know very
responsive to any questions that we had any any requests that we had. Mhm. Um which is why you know with the exception of the facilities manager essentially all the requests that submitted are recommended right because the the requested numbers
are essentially numbers that we've worked with the department heads on. So you know we're not taking a number in and then just slashing them to say well we saved x number of dollars and no one we're not saying that we said based on what Brian had shared with us it's going
to be very difficult year. Oh, is there a look back availability? And I think your point there, yes, there is. But let's do that in the fall when we've had a bit of a chance for the dust to settle. We see what free cashes, things like that. Let's see what comes. Let's see what comes through with the state
budget. Let's see what happens. Will they have a budget? No. No. Maybe by August. Let's see what happens on the school side. They still have their budget numbers and their negotiations underway. when we're facing whatever is going to happen with
the firehouse, whatever is going to happen with this building, the expenses are going to continue for the foreseeable future. And there's no no reason to think that any of these expenses are going to going to go down, right? So there there's no
there's no gain to delaying or deferring these expenses. They're they're necessary expenses and we're going to have to pay for them. It's going to be it's going to be a juggling in the fall as we go through
our the balancing, you know, the application of free cash stabilization and you know what we came at as a target. Um there's going to be a tax increase that's more than typically what we've seen. Mhm. But there's nothing typical about the circumstances that the
town's in right now. Okay. And the only other thing I had in the general budget was I had a question about in the police department uh basically the SRO, but I don't think it's fair to talk about that without having a chance to discuss it with the
chief first. So just to share that's something I'd like to invite Scott to one of our meetings to have that discussion with him and then potentially there might be a savings involved in that if if that happens. You're talking the the SRO for the high school? No, for
greenhouse that's all set for him and that seems to be working, right? But again, it's, you know, Scott's department like a chance to discuss it with him next week before we do something with that. But, um, no, I mean, we, you know, certainly
appreciate this and it's nice to hear some of these numbers likely to be going down because we didn't hear much of that through through this whole process. Um so you know we're posted for uh 6:00
on the 12th. So we will meet in advance. We'll we'll have more discussion about these and um you know make a decision about whether to to hold these revisions for the fall or whether to make certain
revisions at at this town meeting. Want to go through the Warren articles now? only if there's reductions. Well, so typically the board would we would come up with our recommendation. We'd vote on how we feel about different Warner articles and this is an
opportunity for us to take that vote and share with you where we stand on some of them. Okay. Mostly it's the article monetary ones. Article 9. Okay. I think we should take no action
on that. That's $10,000. Take no action because we've got money in the account now. We really need to form a committee and see what they want to go and how extensive they want the celebration to be and then we still have two years to put money in, right? you know, and plus
it's in a lot of these situations, they form 501c's so that they can get donations from businesses and stuff like that. So, I think I would recommend that we defer that this time. I mean, I'm I'm fine with it. I mean, we have there's
enough lead time on it. Basically, it is our motion. So, we're leaning towards move to take no action. So, is Greg? Y. What do you think of that, Greg? Yeah, I think that's uh
reasonable. You got me? I I think that's fair to defer. Okay. All right. What else we got here? What are some moving costs? I think Brian's detailed that. There's not much we can do with that.
Yeah, that's that's a not to exceed cost. That's on 14. Yeah. 14. 15 is the repair. How much money you going to put in for there? Originally discuss 100,000. We brought
down to 80, didn't we? Didn't you bring it down to 80 or no? I mean, you guys have talked anywhere from 50 to We have 100. We have 100 still. We're bring it down to 75. No, on 14 we have 80. On 50, we have Okay. It was 80. The
other one on the run. We still have the 100,000. That's what was and we have the 15 that we if we get it done between now and we we can do something do three tiles or something.
So you want you want to go thing you want to go to where? So you're rolling the two things together. You'll have if you brought the 75 you would have roughly $170,000 to do the work, right? Will that accomplish what we need to do in
the first year? I think it will. And plus, we have the we have the special town meeting if we if something comes up that we say, gee, we need, you know, whatever. So 75 again, that's our motion. So we're letting you know the right direction, right? We're going to make our motion
for 75 instead of 100. Greg, article 14. What do you think? I'm in agreement. Okay. Thank you. It keeps going down. This is This is a lawn mower for the highway
department. It is what it is. The old one's falling apart. I still gave us a number 20 on that. Okay. As you know, I've been a big proponent of purchasing a herd of goats, but that's fine. We'll go with He happens to own a herd
of goats that he's willing to rent. I rent you I'll rent them for you. her of goats to do any sort of lawnmowing, you know. All right. Parks and wreck. Uh the lawnmower for parks and wreck is your topic. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's on here. I mean, that's one of the things where
is it the year for it? Do we get by with the plan that was established several years ago and just see how it goes. Again, we're still exploring where we are with Thornon Burgess. We don't know. So maybe that's one of the things we find out how it goes in the first year
and then if it really was inconvenient we get a mower and figure out where to keep it there. Maybe not jump on everything at the first two two months. Yeah, we we had fair amount of discussion about it. I mean it's it's not a huge item
but the discussion we had was that the there is no mower right there now. school department took the mower with them. Um the highway department's going to be responsible for the the perimeter and the parks and wreck is going to be
responsible for playing fields perhaps. That was not something the board decided. Well, this is this is our understanding, right? This is what our this is what our recommendation is made based upon, right? Um so there's going to have to be a
mower either there or trailered there, right? Um, Proxen Wreck has the mower down at the wreck. Uh, they have the truck, they have the trailer. Um, Dan was was pretty insistent that a mower was necessary
because it's going to during season it's going to require, you know, regular mowing. Um, our sense was that the the truck and the trailer were originally acquired for
trailering. a mower from the wreck over to TWWB. Um, but if wants to now maintain a mower over there, then perhaps the time has come to relinquish the truck and the cost associated with it. Um, and
whatever whatever they do with a truck and our understanding was it's essentially going up to Home Depot and occasionally getting supplies like mulch and whatnot. um that can be accomplished through delivery costs and through reimbursing mileage to
people that are driving personal vehicles. There will be um so if I can just speak on this, there'll be a lot of reimbursement for travel on from my end of things. I mean I use my personal truck for everything parked and wreck my personal vehicle all day long driving to facilities going back and forth getting
equipment. There'll be a lot of mileage I will be submitting. Okay. to keep in the truck. All I'm saying is why don't we just let it go for a year, see how it works out. We haven't determined how much of the property market is going to be mowing yet. We haven't determined. That comes
to us and maybe it's something look if it if we see in the fall it doesn't not going to work out. Maybe it's something for the fall warrant this point. But an opportunity, okay, if we're going to bring the number down a little bit right now, this is where we are. Those type of
things. Again, it's not our motion. It's their motion. They're going to make it, right? We're saying from our standpoint, this might be one might say, can we take a pause six months and see where we stand? We appreciate that, but this kind of falls into that category of expenses
that aren't going away. Um, you know, we delayed the buying the K Cabota and it cost us $10,000. So, a delay on on this with what's going on in the, you know, the national and international economy. What's a delay going to cost us? I don't know. It's not
going to go down. No, it's not. But again, we have a system in place right now and we don't know if that's maintainable. So, I I can I just ask a question? I'd like to ask them why the highway mower is just rubber stamped versus our what? You're adding a mower. You're adding a mower. They're replacing
a mower. Well, there is their mower functional right now. Is it running? Barely. I think the same thing we did with the tractor 2 three years ago. Yeah. They could have brought to the town meeting except wouldn't run to get over there. We Mark Mark had the hours on that tractor and it was a lot. Yeah.
So, it's basically end of life for an existing piece of equipment. Anyhow, that's from our standpoint. Again, it's a park and wreck and they're entitled to make their case. Yeah. Uh senior center. This is one I put on there. This is um and this is me speaking. I've spoken
to Gary. The committee senior has not spoken yet. Something to bring up. Is there anything we can do with that budget? We have three major four things really, John. Right. Correct. Septic, bathrooms, roof, and windows.
The most critical is the bathroom. Sorry, the windows and the bathrooms and the septic, which is a pretty minor number. I said, "Can the roof go another year?" Yes. It's not running water in the windows are more important. You have heat loss. You have cooling loss. Things
like that. Could this be split over two years? It could without disrupting the whole thing of it. It would take that 230 cost to pretty much cut it in half roughly. if that's the direction our board wants to go. Gary was going to call a meeting in
the senior center building committee from Monday, get see how they feel on it first. Obviously, we don't want to go forward without their support, but I think it's a reasonable recommendation that this would be a cost. You're saying we're just pushing it off. Yes, we are. But there are other potential things.
We've also talked in the past, you get 100 advertisements for firms that are looking to put your roof on with some solar and they'll do that roof for free. I get them all the time. I get them at my company all the time. Maybe that's something more to investigate and really make that cost
almost zero. We see it at homes. I see it in businesses. You probably have used some with some of the parking things like that where they will build a structure along they put panels on top. So that gives us a year to look at that type of thing. Okay. I think that's
worth it looking at for sure. So, but but again, this is going to the senior center building committee. Gary's going to call me for Monday and we're dependent on them endorsing it basically. You know, they put all the time and they've lived it. So, so John,
you're hearing it for the first time and one. Yeah. That's okay. So, you would entertain it for the following year. Yes. And ex and if like I said the committee does some work and finds someone I know we've seen them everywhere and brings it
out of also another issue that um at the senior center was the lighting and we had I think Brian you had the uh contractor exactly so we can we can maybe broach that with the roof and maybe the light there you go. Exactly
again energy savings and see what programs are out there. Yeah. So, so the basically the possibility of taking the project and splitting it into part A, part B, right? So, it would drop from 230 down to 110. The roof was the bigger part of it, so it could be 110 instead. Yeah.
But again, that'll be Monday. You'll know more. When does the warranty on the senior center roof expire? What? Two years ago. Was it two years ago? Yeah. Okay. Typically they're 20
year roofs. Well, sometimes they're 20, 25, and 30. And that's what I was I was wondering because that was what 2000. I have to 2002. But I have to tell you, it's funny, and Don remembers this. We go back to the roof at TWWB, which was a
20-year roof bond. The roofing company went out of business. The bonding company went out of business. And that roof has been on there now for 40 years. And it's through the good efforts of the school department, the maintenance department there that that roof is in fabulous shape. Yeah. And we just had
two people up there who said it's fine. Yeah. Right. Mostly membrane. This membrane. Is there any issues with the senior roof? Right. Senior center roof. Right now there are some tiles loose and stuff. There could be you see things up. There's an overhead part. Basically, the
heating system is up in the attic, John, but it's not like coming down into the base thing. Um, I'm thinking the great room had a little something, John, or No, to the best of my knowledge, it was not brought to my Yeah. So, it's something we'll talk on Monday, but again, this is
one. The windows are critical. The bathroom is critical. Yeah. And the septic. John, have you had a meeting since I talked to Don Collins who was going to call Gary? He did call Gary. Gary Gary and I spoke the other
day. He was Gary was fertilizing his lawn and I stopped to harass him. So, we did talk and uh not a problem. We we will include the gutters which are overflowing in the front now.
I think that's something usually markers over there. The roof is not going to last if the gutters aren't clean and working. Good point. I need to get on mine. Thank you. I need to get on my gutters. And I know Mark comes up here. His crew comes and does the I or the
town hall part as well. So, we'll get on that. Um, well, these are these are not exposed. These gutters aren't exposed. So, it's kind of hard to tell. But with the senior center, they were overflowing during a sprinkle
fire station. I think we had a new number of 8.3. Brian, was it with would the cont Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I I agree. That's the email I saw. Yeah, that's what their 5% contingency with a
reasonable Yeah, that Yeah, that was a and that is what it is. And that's a borrowing request. Yeah. The debt exclusion. Has has the board come up with a position on that
yet? No. Have we? No. No. No. So, but but article 20, we have a position. So, if I could just a minute on article 19, I think it would be smart of us to at
least let the people know, the residents know how much it will impact their taxes like they did for the senior center. Okay. So, we still don't have that number for this for the fire station. The fire station. We don't. And I just have to go back to what we were last
year, John, with a $6 million number. We had a sense of how that would impact. And here we're talking something 30% higher. Right. So, and again, I think you need to um run those numbers. I would strongly recommend you have Dick going to do something for us.
Yeah. I I've seen an email request from the fire department building committee to Okay. treasurer for those numbers. I've not seen them come back yet, though. Thank you. Yep. I defer to the chair. Well, the Green Metals flooring
replacement was originally $30,000 until I should have kept my mouth shut. I pointed out that on July 1st, the capital expenditure was $35,000, which miraculously it went to 35,000.
So, I'm a no vote on that one. only because I'm being a jerk. Nobody said that on record. Procedure aside, we look at it as doing work on
town property that needs to be done. Um, so it's really t taking care of our property. We have we have as much as much as it as it might annoy you. We have taken care of our property and over the last 11 years we've spent $126,000 [Music]
um for school maintenance, which we didn't have to spend because it was each time it was well under the 30 or $25,000 mark. And I made the request I made the request that I asked if Wilberham had ever put in any extra money for their
maintenance like that. And they said no, they don't pay for anything. So, I'm I I would be willing to going on with the chair, the town will pay the extra $5,000 for that one room and let the school department pay for the original
30. How's that done? What's good? Well, no, because if we what they should tell is we should pay 30 thou if it's 30,000, we should pay 6,000 and they should pay 24,000, right? But they were willing to do that. That's the point. You know, they had it
in their budget to do it. And then when Don opened his mouth, usually good things happen, but this was not so good. So it just you make your recommendation. You do think it's right. I just want to point out that you're going to get a little push
back at and and speaking speaking for myself perhaps for the committee is we we generally view it as you know we're all in this together. You know, the rising tide rise, you know, raises all boats. No, I would I would say for myself if the original thing that come
through and said 35,000 we want to do things fine because it was obvious you were doing it that way. It's just the way it came about is a little unsettling. What' you say? Yeah. If it originally been 35, we're doing the rooms. You pay for it and next year there'll be another 35.
Fully fully appreciate that. Um setting that aside, looking at looking at what's necessary. The sense was this was necessary. They need to be done. Yeah. It was the process. Yeah. Exactly. Okay.
This parking lot repairs and fire road extension. I'll speak to No, maybe I should recuse myself. Recuse yourself. I don't think that's necessary at all. Neither do we. We were hoping that this is a no action, frankly. Because it's such an illdefined request.
Yeah, I was over there for the read aloud and went out and we couldn't find a part of the parking lot that was bad that needed work. There's some crack filling that's been done, but the rest of it seem compared to some places it's in good shape. Yeah. Okay. And the Green
Meadows, this was a short discussion, right? Yeah. We think that Yeah. Right. The IT switches were on board with that against me on these 23, 24, 25, and 26. The Wolverham finance committee all voted voted no recommendation on all of them.
Was it unanimous or they were split on some ran all of them? Okay. They presented it as a one lump one lump sum. Sure. And they voted and they re their finance committee voted no re not to recommend I thought they were breaking
them out into separate articles. No, they put them all together. They they The way they did it was the way they did it was they um was said it's a it's a No, it's a it's a it's one article, but it just shows what the cost of each one is, but
one vote only. Yeah, it's one article. So, they could somebody could amend the article. So, it's sink or swim everybody together. It doesn't make a lot of sense to tie one to the other because they're each separate issues. Did you I don't think we can put it up
there. Can you probably can't hold that letter? No, no, no. They're they're uh the minutes there their warrant. Well, let's continue. See if we could do that. The lease amendment that's nothing purchase. So, Don, if I could just for my own knowledge, you're saying 23
through 26, they combined all of the dollars on the side. We're going to try to pull it up. They sent it over, right? Yep. 26. We're going to recommend from the
floor because we had some some questions questions about this Kabota. The Kabota. Kabota. I mean, I've asked for um I've asked Um yeah article see the quote no okay and I have not gotten that response yet
that's theirs spending those are the those were the last of the money questions we have and the rest are we may have opinions but you know saying if the online retail price they want to purchase
significantly less than what they're requesting so the question John kind of led discharges, you know, if the re, you know, if the retail price is X, why are you asking for Y? Is it attachments? Is it because they have to get it off of state contract? My understanding was the
attachments because they're replacing one. Um, they were not going to get any additional attachments. So, they have all existing attachments. They can get because it's the same pretty much the same unit. So, like you
said, the So, See that that's their article article 22. So our total will be 90,000 to all four. The time will vote to appropriate and transfer the sum of three to fund. So
that's one article. So we've advertised it as separate articles. Right. Yeah. So my question is what if we vote A, B, and C and then we say no and D? Is is that whole thing gone? They vote no on their
article 2. No, but if they vote yes, say they vote yes and we vote no on one of ours ones. Yeah. They either No. Does that not match theirs though? Right. Cuz we didn't vote one4th of their thing. I I'm not sure what the answer is, but I do know that
we didn't create the issue, right? We'll let we'll let somebody else figure it out. But anyhow that and they voted and you can see the finance committee recommended does not recommend approval. Yeah. I I think the overarching question is if this is a quote unquote capital
assessment are are we is it just like the operating budget we can't amend their operating budget but the letter we the letter we got was assess capital assessment. Yeah. So maybe we're doing it wrong but whatever.
Well, we'll find out. Time will tell. But how do we feel about the four articles, per se? I would say the split AC's, although they are going down in price. That's not a bad price for him.
Uh the radio, I'm no on the radio. It's surprising because I can't I can't believe that you can't make a radio go from one in the school building to the other. Every kid talks to when I can talk to my when I can't talk to my kid when we're at the house in Poland on a cell phone.
We did have an explanation about that because we have questions as well. I mean, you know, why can't they use a cell phone call from one end of the building to the other, but apparently it has to do with emergency situations and being able to communicate over the the
existing channel and there are essentially dead spots within the building with the existing repeater is what we're told. Huh. Um, so from a safety perspective, this has been requested by was it the chief chief? Well, chief chief in with our chief
also, I think. Okay. So, anyway. All right. I'm surprised. This is where you need Gina Khan with getting her safety grants all the time. This would be perfect for that type of thing. The camera system, I know Steve Hail's talked about in the past how bad the video is on that and it's all about
safety at that point. That's just it's amazing that huge a number with the drop in gigabyte storage now. It's just I'm sure half twothirds of that number is cloud storage costs instead of actual equipment.
And our you know our understanding is that the administration at the high school relies on these surveillance systems regularly to s you know to sort things out that have happened. So yeah. Nice. The necessary
unfortunately it's a necessary feature of the high. So this is this is the high school version of body cam basically. Yes. And the K Cabota. We have questions too. All right. Solar thing. No money. It's just straightening out. They had to move the fence because they couldn't go on
the slope. D and Kong have both signed off. Conservation. We already paid for that. Yeah. Sort of. Sort of, right? Pay for that. An appropriation. We appropriate. We have property when we haven't paid. We don't want to rush into
Yeah. Good luck explaining that one. That's going to create the laugh. Community preservation. Those are all fine. The same thing will die. Battery energy storage. That's good. Accessory. That's That's it. Is that this week or next week? That's this week. Uh 16th.
16th. Okay. That that plants have in the meetings. the battery energy and the uh the sixth. So as Wednesday this Wednesday this Wednesday yeah I forwarded the public hearing this Wednesday or next Wednesday. This
Wednesday the agenda that I earlier today was for this Wednesday. Yes. And as soon as I get those official recommendations from the planning board, I'll post those online. So we had some procedural concerns on this with the language for the proposed amendment was
not available either for us or some question of whether or not that has to be read in the record something I guess for Rose through. Oh, that's a great That
could be that could be a long Yeah. The reason session rose. Wow. Nice. Well, Rose, she'll have to
Excuse me. Yeah. You don't want the AG to go back. Well, it wasn't properly posted. Yes, Connie. I don't have the warrant in front of me, but I do remember a couple of weeks ago
we had that a warrant was presented and as you went through it, I saw something and I it it's some kind of facilities or maintenance. Uh but it's a salary $70,000.
It's not a 40. What is that called and what exactly does that position entail? Facilities manager. Okay. Facilities manager. So the idea is that we would have one single individual who' be
responsible for the the maintenance and upkeep at the higher level of all the town buildings. We would the department head of any that they have to do with their building. So the police so the police chief's not trying to get his furnace fixed. So the fire the fire chief's not trying to work in the
furnace fix. Um and then a portion of that was also we don't think that's 40 hours a week. We probably not enough work there with our buildings to cover that. So the other part of that would to to take charge of the
maintenance at at Thoren Burgess the custodial duties at at Thorn. So this person, this one person for $70,000 is going to handle all of the maintenance and replacement. Like if it if say senior
center needs a new roof, is he going to get the roofer? Yep. Okay. So they do the coordination of that. They wouldn't do the roof. They would do the coordination with that. Mhm. schedule the whatever quarterly maintenance needs to happen with some of Okay. And how
often is he going to inspect these buildings? I'm not sure exactly what the that's part of involves coming up with a schedule. So the schedule and description of the duties so it becomes systematized
because right now it's at I I think that there we should have that to start before we hire somebody and they decide what they're going to do. Well, we will we're just appropriating the money in in place. We will have that
in place. I I'm I'm getting old. I'm not getting around as much. I won't be here to report the overflowing gutters on the townhouse or the senior center or carpenter ants at the police station. Uh
holes in the foundation of the townhouse. I'm just not going to be here to report these things so they can get fixed. And and I'm just thinking, wait a minute. I've been doing all of that for nothing. Jane's been
doing all of that for nothing. Couldn't we have like in fact Chrissy Season suggested this to me and I thought it was a good idea that we pay our building
commissioner a little bit more, our plumbing and our electrical contractors a little bit more. and three times a year they get a roofer and whatever and they go and look at these [Music]
buildings. It just wouldn't save us 70,000 a year. I'm thinking also of retirement if we have an extra employee we also have that retirement. And I just thought, we're a town of 5,000 and we're
we're wanting more and more employees and we can't afford it. Well, I think it's also because we also have you look at the square footage of what municipal buildings are and the fact that we're going to be picking up Thornton Burgess and correct me if I'm wrong which equals
all the other buildings put together. And we've also talked, we haven't done a very good job of looking over the requirements at Academy Hall. And now we're going to have this one person, man, female, whichever, that's going to be having a whole game plan for prep
from seven or eight municipal buildings. It's a full-time job. Even Even the the You're paying this person $10,000 a year for each building. Just no less less. We're talking um
40,000. 40,000 divided. I mean, you could say you could say 20,000 is Thorn Burgess by itself and the other 20 is divided among the other six buildings basically. Yeah. Right. Connor, your point's well taken. Um but it it it's
advisory at this point. This this request this request is a reflection of the fact that everything has become more complicated and there's less volunteer time. I know it's complicated. The thing is, Doug, if I was 40 years younger, I'd do it for nothing. Okay. Let's also make
the point that part of that was in Jane salary. If you look, that number has been reduced tremendously. So, don't look at it 40,000. Look at the fact it's actually okay. understand that was kind of in included in Jane's
salary, but that was one employment, one retirement that we were paying. Now we're going to be paying another retirement. I thought it would be easier if we could get people who were doing
things here anyway and getting paid for it. Well, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll get hired by somebody else and not retire. we might get lucky. So, I don't know. Anyway, that I I've been thinking about that and Oh, thanks so long. Well,
it's a you know, it's certainly a concern, right? But it's also a concern if if something is let go could cost us Oh, I know. I'm all for maintenance, Doug. That uh and Don has done a great job. I think Don is very concerned about
that and I'm sure you are too, John. And uh it's it's our biggest concern. And when we take on Thornton Burgess with the square footage of that building which was built in what 67 well there's
there's a lot of big issues that are facing the town the facilities or the duties of the facilities person is one of them. I mean big time, you know, half of our half of the management of the town is, you know, 65 or 70 or older. I
mean, okay. And your point, things are going to change. All right. Things are going to change. All right. Thank you. We got We got to move on. Yeah. Thank you. Cuz our our bedtime's coming up soon. Take time. Got to take my medicine. I
got to take my medicine. Go to bed. Is Carson on yet? Come on. effort. Jeopardy's on right now, right? All right. I always go to bed right after Jeopardy. All right. Well, thank you all for coming in. It'll be a fun time. All
right. We have the regional uh agreement amendment discussion. Anything new? No, we got this letter. Oh, great. Want to put the letter up? Yeah. Chair. chair.
All right, chair. So, we got this letter the regional from the uh W Select Board. Where you going? That's the top secret. Top secret. Let me get some water. The So, just going to go briefly through
it. So, the Wilberham Select Board discussed their the discussion about the regional agreement on April 7th and uh they favor the proposal as written in the amendment. They think that the Wilberham school capital cost should be handled as
if the building is a district building similar to Minichog Regional High School. The majority of the Wilberham Select Board believes that the Wilberham capital proposal should be paid for on a proportional basis. This is estimated to be 82% to
18%. And it says most importantly in the majority opinion of the W select board is the fact that they that any proposed middle school capital projects under the proposal must be approved by both communities. That's true. Mhm. However,
they've raised the in the planning committee meeting, they've raised the question of uh that they don't like the fact that as it was the word was used that the regional committee can force something on the warrant without a say of the
committee. So they're kind of talking about two different things here that it that would they currently control what can go on as a as a as a capital cost but they're opposed to the region saying what could be a cap with capital. So I
don't understand quite where they're going there. This requirement town meeting approval by both communities in effect as a carveout procedure. They they um they missed the point about the caral procedures. The the caral procedure
isn't uh whether rejecting a a uh capital capital expenditure or not. But the carbell procedure is is is taking the things that should have
been done in the 2015 uh uh assessment taken care of. That's what we care about. And they they've supported this in the past. Um let me just get my let me just listen when they talked about the roof in the parking lot last time that was going to
be out. Right. They let me see here. So the car, you know, there's a misunderstanding regarding the term Carol. The term refers to identify deficiencies that existed in a building. that's solely owned by the and the responsibility of the town of Wilham prior to the time of the transferring to
Hampton students. It's nothing to do with having the right to vote no on a particular project that's always been existed with in the regional budgets and regional assessments. Right. Um the so I don't quite understand where
they're coming from there. And then it says uh it says if the will if the board the select board is mindful the voters of hand will have a 50% stake in decision making on any given middle school capital project while being financially responsible for only 18%.
The Wilmer Select Board asked the Hammond Select Board to give due consideration of the value of this arrangement. Well, that arrangement is the state law that we get if if you know if if there's two members of this region. So each gets a 50% vote. If there was four members, each each panel
would get a quart 25% vote of it. So, okay. Uh explaining okay a majority of the Hannah Lake board does not favor carveouts. And again I say it's not about carveouts it's about the pri prior existing conditions and they recognize
that because and they recognize the issue of car because in in 2016 uh the the amendment the when I put the amendment they specifically said that the lease between the regional school district and the member towns for the
middle school shall continue with expense allocations modified as follows. Operating expenses and expenses in the nature of capital outlay including those incurred for the unified middle school and maintenance expenses for thorn and burgers and hamman shall be aortioned to
the member towns as provided in section 4E of the agreement. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Hammond shall bear no responsibility for any roof replacement at the unified middle school and provided further any capital expenditures unrelated to the unification of the middle school shall
be aortioned to Hammond on a prorated basis based upon the occupy years. So they they've already recognized that there should be some carveouts. In addition to that, there is a published report that said the dis the district is proposing that the towns of Hampton and
Wilberham amend their regional agreement to allow Hannah students to be educated at Wilberham Middle School for a period of 5 years. The plan calls for leasing modular classrooms to accommodate the combined sixth and eighth grade. Operational costs of the unified
building will be assumed according to the town's assessment except for any preexisting costs. such as the cost of the roots would be the responsibility of Wilberham. So this is not a new concept and and this is what we're talking about
here. The other thing I thought was interesting in their letter was they said that the rationale for this majority opinion includes doubt about the relevance of a study from 10 years ago and the reality that the middle school capital projects approved by both communities going forward will
benefit the students. Well, who's relevant years? How does it get less relevant? So, how does it get less relevant when when they when some of those things haven't been taken care of? And I found this very curious because two of the members that are
currently on the Wilberham Select Board were on the middle school task force. So, they recognized that there was pre-existing conditions that had to be taken care of if the schools. So, was who else? Mark. Who's the chairman school committee? Oh, his chair of the
school. Okay. Right. Um, so and then lastly, it says, "Furthermore, the Wilberham selector rejects any notion that postponing any given middle school capital project has relied on the
possibility of Hampton taxpayers being asked to fund a portion of these project in future. This is simply not accurate." Can you put the other thing up? [Music] Okay. So, on March 13th of this year, the Wilbert and Capital Planning
Committee met and Dr. Slaughter presented the rationale for requesting $700,000 for the UN event system. and he said this is driven given the problem we had with the mole issue at the beginning of the school year. Okay. The capital
planning chair asked so this project is is like high priority. Move it up a little bit. Yep. It's like high priority. Dr. Schlott said high priority for us given we missed a couple of days of school and then there was some talk about the insurance claim and the return
on investment. And the real reason we want to focus on this is the safety aspect we're dealing with this year. A member of the finance committee and capital planning committee said, "I know there's some discussions regarding Wilberham Middle School in general about how
potential capital costs could be broken up. The whole other conversation outside of us totally about how the kids basically coming and discussing to make it a regional school. This kind of like that's kind of outside us. So I have a concern about that and if there's
something eminent coming which point the chair of the committee asked so are you saying that if they regionalize the co the cost for capital improvements could be shared and he said exactly basically it's one middle school
now I'm kind of viewing it from that view like Mitchaw go ahead okay so then Dr. Slaughter said, "Part of our urgency district right now is getting the kids to be where where they kids that are in there right now. We need to have a
system to have a building that's pretty safe for them. We want to make sure we're taking care of that because those kids are going to be in that building." And he said, "The capital question is part of that discussion and the real reason we want to focus on this is the safety aspect we're struggling with this
year." The member said, "I appreciate that." So then they came to the vote and the chair said I also do think that were there were some valid points made if the middle school gets regionalized how would those costs be shared something a
committee we need to think about go ahead so they said if we are not comfortable voting on 700,000 for the Wilberham middle school given the questionable number and their concern there was that they didn't have a like a real quote it was like we Yeah. They
wanted they wanted a specific quote. This wasn't a hard number. They wanted a hard number. That's fair. Well, that's part's fair. Okay. Yeah. And on the regionalization issue, right? So, we could pass it. I think we should take a vote passing on that because they're waiting if it's regionalized to share
the cost, right? I mean, I have no problem if they don't have a sense that the quote is good. The hard problem that's that's a fair thing and they had time and they had time to get a good quote. No, but I mean, anybody would ask that. That's fine. But the regionalization thing, Don, you make the point again. The mole problem's been there for 20 years. We've been there for
five. Yeah. You knew you had to just waiting for somebody else to come in and share it. So, so I I'm of the mind right now if look
at let the school committee propose their amendment to regionalize it. Go to town meeting and let the town meeting decide. Right. Uh Greg, are you on? I am. Can you hear me?
A minute. All right. Good. Unmuted. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you, Don. Um 100%. You You know my stance. There's no return on investment for investing in something that's already faulty. We're
losing money either way. And I go back to that first letter too where it says a majority of the board. So does that mean the board wasn't in unison with their decision? I don't know. I didn't get to watch their meeting so I don't know. But you know obviously it
was framed in that that context where it wasn't a full member approval of their board. Right. Um and secondly it goes back to that study everything that you said. Yeah. I don't know. That's it's frustrating.
And so I'm of the mind just saying, "Look, it let the amendment go and we'll go to the town meeting and you can make the case for it." Mhm. And we'll see what the people say. I mean, I don't know how we I don't know how we resolve this. I don't.
John, you any comment? Well, I think that's the thing right there. Again, heck, they don't know what they're talk which way they want to go, right? Um, I want to say it the wrong way, though. They don't know, you know, which way they want to go with it. And to force it on
us when this has been discussed so long ago, it's just the fairness issue can't be overstated, especially when you have documentation saying, "Look, years ago, you knew there was a carveout and now that you see somebody show up with money
in their pocket like we're going to take that back." No, we'll help going forward for new things because that's the right way to be, right? But you brought us a house that had defects. You knew about the defects. Fix them and then we'll share the house together.
Simple as that. And just to add another point there, when we all met both joint meeting with the board, um both our boards, they kept pushing back, well, it's for the kids. You know, you want to make sure it's safety for the kids, right? and they like they they threw that in our plate and and I agree with
that. It's the safety for the kids, but why wasn't it addressed 10 years ago if it's such a safety concern that they want to press us for it? So don't don't throw that at me and then be like, "Oh, well, we've been kicking it down the can for 10 years." And Dr. Dr. Schlott was very forceful and say, "Look, this is a
real safety problem, a real safety issue that we need to take care of, you know." Yeah. So, agreed. All right. Okay. Thank you. Anything else? No, I do appreciate Dr. Slaughter. I think, you know, like I've said before, his
background being selectman in a system before I think allows him to see several sides, which is good. All right. Uh I just wanted to bring that up and I I think that's we'll have to maybe we can Brian and I can come up with a response and I'll share it with you guys. Thank
you. Umbulance agreement. What the heck is next? Agree. Um, so I uh created the ambulance agreement for uh fiscal year 26 through 28 before I sent it out to Action
Ambulance. Um, Action Ambulance got back to us and said that um they agreed with how it was amended. I'm waiting for a signed copy back from them. Essentially, we uh we did take out the language that talked about a reopener based on
uncertain uh regulator the uncertain regulatory environment. Um I think Don's point in the conversations was that um they have a sort of a built-in cushion whether revenues go up or down in terms of in terms of our level of uh reimbursement. So, they were okay with
that. I'm just waiting to to get back their uh signed copy and then we can have the board sign it. You do have a copy of the I emailed it out to the board, a copy of the the final agreement and a copy with changes. So, if there's
any uh questions, you can let me know. One thing we talked about, Don, was like carrying the the rebate number in the budget, right? But the language here shows that that there might not be a guarantee because it says here if the actual rebate varies from the projected
rebate, the net subsidy can be back up to 386. Yeah, that's always been in there. So I'm saying we had talked before about potentially amending the number to figure but the likelihood that it might be short. So we're just going to leave
it getting a 50 or 60,000 cash. Yeah. Go. All right. A motion to you asked for you any changes or we're good. Um I mean you guys you can vote on if you're okay with it. We're going to approve then we can sign it when I get it. Motion to
approve the uh three-year agreement with action ambulance as negotiated with by the town administrator. Second [Music] Why does it keep going? I don't know. Any further discussion? Huh? All in
favor? Hi. Hi. Hi. All in favor. All right. Thank you. And get a haram from that guy. Delay. He goes green here. What's next? I think we're finally down to the board of health stuff. We got the minutes and
then the board most transfer station. Where's the board of health stuff? What do you got in it? uh basically talk about the fees and I have one person requesting a disposal works installer
permit. I'll take that first. Uh we have somebody coming in Belco Construction Company of Westfield would like to have a disposal work installers permit. They paid their fee. Why not? What do they do? They dispose of the works.
Where do they dispose of it? Don't ask where it goes. Uh, so move. Okay, that was all in favor. I Okay. All right. So, the other concern I have is um the
budget for the enterprise fund. Um, going over the numbers with Lori and looking over numbers before with Jane, costs have gone up both in the hauling and in salaries as well. Um, I do think
we're going to need to the sticker sales start next week for the FY 26th year. I think we're going to need a bump in sticker price. Lori did some checking around. For instance, I think she said even Wilberham was $100 a sticker. We
are 70 and 35 for the second. Seniors are 30 and extra sticker at 15. Where 70? Well, you're taking a senior sticker, Don. I know, but I thought it was
60. No, we bumped it a year or so ago. Um, I'm okay with the regular sticker, the bulker sticker. I think we should be looking at at least a $10 change, 10 and five change in the senior sticker. We aren't if we don't raise these costs
in the bag costs, the revenue doesn't go up, but the expenses go up. So we're So you want a motion to basically the senior the sticker would be 40 and 20 for seniors and then I may be coming back.
We're doing a recap. We have more time on the bags because the sticker sales start in May. The bag change wouldn't be take effect until July 1st. So we're going to run some more numbers on that. And we're not increasing the the regular
one at this point. No. Okay. Okay. Jesus. All right. I move we increase the sticker price for seniors to $40 and an extra sticker to $20. Wow, Don, that's going to hit you right in the pocket. I'm on a fixed
income. Hope that goes okay at home. Gives me 10 bucks a week. You have a second. Did Don really say that backwards? No, he said regular sticker 40 and extra 20, I thought. Yeah, senior's Yeah, senior sticker. The
regular sticker 40 and extra sticker 20. Gotcha. Okay. Second. All in favor? I All in favor? I Okay. All right. Now minutes. Now minutes. How about a consent agenda on the minutes? I move
motion you to approve all minutes as presented without release for the executive session minute. Can I second that from remote? Sure. If you were at the meeting. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm good. All in favor? I I Thank you. Oh, that was well done, Don. That
was That's a new one. All right, let's see. We got u board reports. I have nothing to report. Nothing to report for me. Craig, I have nothing to report. Town administrator's report.
Keep it going, Brian. Sorry, just a couple important things. So, on the town website under under town meetings and elections, there's a uh copy of the posted warrant. There is a copy of the green sheets that would be that will be mailed out in the time. And we call it
the hand in times, right? Yes. and um a copy of the uh explanations for the warrant articles. There's also additional information that uh about the fire station article on the town website as well. If people want to go there,
they can start studying for town meeting and we'll leave it at that. Okay. Actually, can I jump in on that for one second? Yes. Who's this? Um there's an open house listed on the website for the fire station, too, where if people want to tour it to see its
current condition, they can do that. Yeah, weren't they scheding two or three? Uh great. Three. All right. Thank you. Anything else? Anything else to come before the board? Lauren? No. Everybody's happy. Okay. I'll make a
motion to adjurnn. Second. All in favor? I I I say I What was the second I might have been John? Might have been John Plast.
Yeah. Still recording. All right. You have left the meeting. Are we muted? I don't think so.