I good evening call a meeting to order this is a meeting of the handon board of selectman and Board of Health excuse me excuse me who this the hamon select board the Board of Health being held in the to house Auditorium February 18th
2025 at 5:30 please stand for the pledge of [Music] allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the repblic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for
all thank you just seeing if anybody's listening yeah is anyone recording the meeting other than ourselves Kristen rivers of the good evening Kristen good evening of the wilam Hampton times good evening all right let's see first item
on our agenda is minutes pleth minutes yeah pleth minutes December 9th 2024 a a date to live in in what we doing that
thing feel like a thick kind of the budget kickoff we had all all the Departments into discuss uh the previous six months and the few their upcoming items that they might have for Tom meeting everyone was here we had a
contract talk about contract expension for murf schedul the municipal buildings meeting uh discuss the weather closing policy which has come in handy and approve some entertainment
licenses y motion to approve second all in favor okay uh December 23rd 2024 the Board of Health uh director was
in to discuss a situation on scantic road uh we talked about pilot agreements for solar the water district and uh signed some papers for conservation
restriction and we engage the attorney discuss a legal medical personnel motion to approve second all in favor let's see the next one is January 6
2025 we discussed some uh position of the Board of Health uh coordinator position and other positions that we may have to fill in the town uh Board of Health there's appeals hearing we held regarding the scantic uh
Road issue and we have receiv received a update from the chairperson of the school committee regarding the hamen wam Regional School District agreement amended uh proposed amended agreement okay
um I don't think you would would you Craig you were here at that meeting right M you probably seconded the adjournment I wasn't here for the meeting OD and Don but either way motion to approve
second all in favor I and January 7th uh let's see we talked about oh this is the this is the municipal EXT meeting that we have with
the mun municipal buildings and we had a group talk about the various buildings in this in this status and uh begin planning for the future you and me so motion to approve
second I favor January 21st 2025 this is a regular board meeting we got the planning board uh ask about some clerical
help prer Valley Transit the valley U commission we talked about some filing a grant for some help there talk about reorganization during the transition schedu the budget
hearings uh upcoming contract negotiation with the with the highway superintendent and the highway Union Town meeting discuss second all in favor thank
you okay next agenda item we have is um ham hamon wilham Regional School agreement update we have that on there for screen sharing can you screen share yes we
can the cage you're not going to got to make sure this is the right one that doesn't look like try it again that's it okay that's it so these are the major the major items the first one uh
is the it says that the residents of the member towns who are enrolled in grades 6 through 12 shall attend schools within the district as designated by the committee so basically what this means is that all students in grade six through 12 all students in hamon and
wilham grade 6 through 12 will attend either the middle school wilham middle school or the minog high school based on their grade right now the high school is 9 through 12 and the middle school is 6 through 8 and then the second one is which is
kind of an odd thing says school committee members will run for a three-year term and take office on July 1st and will'll be cleared it'll be clear C to the candidates on the ballot that the term of office will begin July 1 this is the current practice but the
department of uh Elementary and secondary education wants it spelled out on the ballot and it that doesn't it doesn't make sense because no other elected position doesn't say you
know if you elect a state representative the person takes office in January sometime so I don't it's not dated on there right huh it's not dated it doesn't say it on there so or the congressman you know I don't understand why they want
that um but they do and I think we'll probably push back on that uh third thing is each member shall be entitled to one weighted vote at all committee meetings in order to ensure compliance with the one person one vote
us constitutional requirement the voting weight of each member will be reviewed every five years the review will be compare the voting ratio of each Town census as certified by the town clerk in each member town so this is a demand by the Department of Education um Elementary
and secondary education not doing so could open the school committee vote to a legal challenge in other Regional districts it's weighted it's weighted voting essentially what this would mean is that as an an example
hamen would have uh each hamon member would be would only each hamon member would have 85 of a vote each wil Bram member would have
uh I'll give give you a number here in a minute let's see see feedback agreement well each each wam member and the problem that the problem that comes with that is so when you have a vote it would have to
Total four right because there's seven members would have to Total four so theoretically if three members of the three me if four members show up at a meeting and three
members of the of the if if three members show up at a meeting if if if and one of them was a hand member the the three members of the wilham could could P pass the vote without because would add up to four I'm going to get I was watching a
meeting and the different scenarios that were coming up meeting were dizzying yeah but the other thing that POS me we're already the 5 to2 I thought was supposed to take care of the disparity in the the district sizes and then to do this on
top of it it seems like it's just doubling up on it we already take a I want to say hit or be it is what it is it's fair enough we have Regional appropriation portion based on the size five and two so why do it on top of that
I Tried reading that constitutional requirement yeah and maybe I was looking in the wrong spot but I don't remember seeing anywhere where it said that it was weighted voting it requires the one person one vote right and they said it was done
for many reasons but it doesn't say anywhere in there that it has to be a weighted vote right from what I remember reading so I'm not sure why why that's the case I mean one person one vote so now we have less than one vote
and I know it's supposed to be population and demographics and stuff and there was a lot of challenges in the judicial system where they've upheld the challenges from smaller communities that were trying
to push back against it so it's it's pretty pretty interesting how it's all played out over the years I said we were already paying that penalty yeah you the 5 and two and the um the other thing the interesting thing about it too is that
if if you had if the members weren't elected if none of the members of the school committee weren't elected they were all appointed then we could we' appoint two and they could appoint five M and that would be fine I think the other way is what you do um at large
yeah at right yeah that would that would never we would never get anybody in potentially yeah so I think that's one that's still up for uh that can be challenged mhm so that that one's still hanging out there oh
there it is there there's the D is there you see yeah so go go further down I think he has some examples there not keeping up on screen nope it's not so has desie
actually reference what the Constitutional requirement is said one vote right can they reference in the material where it says okay I can ask that you know like can you pull the code the section and the thing where it says one person one vote cuz I want to see what they are looking at okay see so it
says here if if four me it says here if six members are present four or more votes or three or more right four or more votes three or more votes from ubam see three votes from ubam could pass a thing if there are six members present
mhm because of what the waiting they were the waiting could have put them over four five member there's five members present three votes or more see so I'm going to ask that question that's a good question yeah I want them
to cite the actual code in the US constitutional requirement that they're citing where it says one person one vote and it must be waited all right seem like this should be in L of the other five and two things how can you have both was when you search it you know you you look for it there there's
tons of minutia you have to dig through so is this somebody's interpretation of one person one vote or is this yeah you know is it codified in the law that way now Brian didn't you say in your District you had weighted voting up there up in weightly or
no um they did but it was it wasn't the whole time it was the last two years that I was there I think they changed over how many that was five four or
five that's four towns four towns what's the other one down the big one tantas is that b b and and when Aaron Osborne was here he he said that when he was up there they had seven and they used to have to bring
a a spreadsheet exctly yeah math major just like going to have to you know so all right what do you got the next next next thing is the U uh Capital costs oh no NEX is assigned
students from grade inry both member towns with single School building which single School building is least building that building will be treated as a district owned building and capital cost will be portioned in the same manner as any other District own building so what that means that the cap
Capital cost would be a portion based on the ratio of the foundation enrollment in the building for each town at the time capital expenditure currently that ratio is 18.7 for hamton 81.3 for
wilham and projected so basically if they if everyone's if everyone is six through eight is in the current wilham middle school and they need Capital Improvements that hamton would have to be responsible for 19% of that which
we're not responsible for at all right now because the building is owned by the owned by wilam but and they they currently have no outstanding Capital expenses and the money for the reation of mold would not be included at that point I also asked a
question were there any wam students in Green Meadows and the answer was yes so therefore do we get to apply that back no because that wouldn't be a Regional School oh okay because they're only cuz they're only through five oh so green medals doesn't fall into that because
it's not technically under the 6 through 12 right okay um what can classifies as a capital expense a roof yeah okay so a roof is going to age no matter who's in the building right right so windows windows are going to
age no matter who's in the building so why are we responsible for updating a building that's not like to me like buil buying a house the pre-existing is wiped away anything that's there beforehand now they did just do the roof though they did just do the roof but 20 years so now the roof's got to get done again I agree and then now we're like we're
paying for a roof that is going to get need to be replace regardless for a building we don't own M you know windows are the same way you know 20 years from now the energy codes are going to change parking lot same thing I agree to an extent but obviously more people more traffic more more use M you know I I
just have a tough time investing in a building and the argument that's made counter to that is well your kids are in there okay your kids are using the building right you're you know you want to have a building that's that's efficient safe and clean and healthy that's great let's give them back twb
and we'll move our kids back over here one of the things that that when Don and I were talking with them was brought up is the town will have a uh there will be subsequent votes whether the town would support the capital project or not Hy would have to vote the
capital appropriation for the middle school so it actually gives the town somewhat of a veto over the Capital Improvements at uh at the middle school I I didn't think I didn't think about it that way initially but that's one thing that I
learned when I was at the meeting so the town could vote no on Capital expenses as a um that's been charge yeah yeah let's say for instance it's looking pretty clear the building is going to last what whatever five more years and they're
they're going to be building a new middle school or whatever if that came up the Tom Vote you could vote no on a on a a capital expense that has pretty long payb people if that goes forward I'd like to
see another um air quality test on the school and right oh we God moving on vocational education it just codifies what the practice is now explain to me again why we can't go to
Pathfinder I don't know you it's just like we need more vad training we're stuck with just going to the other place which I'm told is full up yeah we've always G to Pathfinder I've got a picture of myself and my
brother Mike at Pathfinder using some of their electrical equipment we've always been Partners why are we stopped from doing that with our the town next door good question like to know I'm glad I brought this up there
you go assessment of cost so they're suggesting there's two things you could do you could have an alternative method which provides for Al alternative method if the town meeting votes on the alternative would be ass assessing a on
a three-year rolling average of student enrollment the town each year the town would have to vote at that at the town meeting if they voted no it goes back to the current the way it's done now I normally would have said not a big deal but I see there's some they're
projecting almost a 1% shift for next year which with besze their budget that's actually a real number so maybe the rolling thing isn't such a good idea so they any anyhow they have to vote to approve each town so what would happen is you would
have the town meeting they would say this is the regional assessment budget des's thing or is this um what is this a Desi a Desy thing yeah do they really have a dog in that they just suggesting it or they just suggesting it and then they
would we could vote on that that way and or town voted no then they going to the way it is now if Town voted yes on a three roll so essentially they would have to prepare two assessments and two what a waste of time yeah what a waste
time correct and then the annual budget that the school committee votes on has to be a 23d vote of the full Committee of the full committee a 2/3 vote uh that's not what's been happening voting majority and then they also I mean should say there so old towns have to
approve it this this is the I'm saying with the committee's action but both towns have to approve the budget no no that mean the withdrawal part yes both towns have to approve the withdrawal right there thing withraw on
so and the budget two3 of the full committee with with the math me or help on the withdrawal go back to withdrawal the the both towns would have to approve it and the the commissioner could veto it let's say we they to
disand it the commissioner could veto it right based on the fact we have no plan going forward for educating the students you can't right great all right I watched you I could see you really enjoying that uh that meeting I zoomed in too I was going to text you during it
but want to bother you that would be because it'd be a violation understand why you we've never we've never done that no sir all right thank you for your attention scantic Valley Ares one second
when are you discussing that next um March 4th March 4th six meeting hi n hi joh hi Greg how you doing no see the boys in big never heard about the hats never got
oh okay well just as well thank you thanks for that hi hi so scanic River Artisans Laura Sno man Herbert um we are here to request possibly that Thorton Burgess
when Town Hall moves over that we are allowed to have a space with you guys there um for our shows for our store storage um the senior center is
fabulous but it really I mean it's too small um there's nowhere for anything storage no storage whatsoever so we're asking if we could be part of the transition is it more of a combination
that you want a room that you would call home but your shows would still be in the cafetorium because obviously there's no room big enough to have a show per se and I was that the one you did maybe last year sometime you had the one in the
cafeteria in the auditorium there yeah it's CA caor okay cafetorium that's when I went there that was because it was a combination CAF yes yes that was so I mean I assume you're talking okay can we have one of the old classrooms that'll be our meeting storage body but you're
not going to have a show in there no right I think they would still follow the same procedures as you know you AU authorization right for no you're talking permanent per yeah right right they're looking for a room for storage but the use of the the
cafetorium would fall underneath just the the general use guidelines in four times a year you know the normal procedure we have but you would be say level B level a might be the planning board's doing something they're a town department so the weekend of April 10th
you'd like it unfortunately the library War has event already planned so you'd have to shift the week oh absolutely government bodies well we plan a year in advance anyway so we already know in September what the dates are for the following year wow we're
still working on tomorrow you know government runs slow we don't know we don't know what we're doing next week 49 don't you have a permanent display over there though at the CD Center we do we do and we would keep that and we would keep our um ilas which is Interactive Learning through
ART classes there you keep the permanent display at the C Center well that that's uh an ongoing display there so we would definitely keep that and obviously we would be looking to see is there display
space here that draws people as well you know I I mean I is there space for that as well but yes we are at Rices and a couple other places we could offer you an attractive price on this building instead there you
go oh yeah if a nonprofit wanted to take this building right mhm if if we could afford it that would be great I love this space we actually had a show here in this space as well remember years ago M it's worth having a conversation about certain yeah
yeah so um that is kind of our proposal it would have four shows a year um a a small space or you know just to store our stuff we would still be able to use the senior center for our
meetings our ilas um and then the only other thing with Thorton Burgess would be when artists prior to a show they'd have to bring their artwork so we could register it in so it would be like you know the
couple days before the show or a week if it's a jured show which you were a judge for us um we would need that space so whether that was part of part of our little part of a little room or
something that's fine Ryan based on the uh the governmental structure you had laid out is there any rooms that are unoccupied in that layout so that's not final final at this point okay uh we still got a couple we we still have moving Parts in terms of
that um I'd be hesitant to give a uh uh definite answer right now um cuz what I foresee happening is that there's probably going to be competing interests for space in the building and without
sort of a process about how to for how the board would want to handle all those requests um you know it's something that we really got to think through in terms of um yeah even if it even if we're sharing
a room with you know I saw in the plans earlier that there had um what was it veterans and there a couple others that we know don't take up an entire room but even if we had a a a barrier a
proportion yeah I hear you um it's more or or it's more of if there is space available how do we prioritize how do we how do we divide it between cuz I suspect we'll get I suspect we'll get more requests right and then um you know
how do we how does the board handle through and prioritize those requests um and in terms of in terms of finalizing the layout you know we're not quite there yet right um you know definitely there's I mean I I think the
idea is that is that definitely the the auditorium is is is available for those types of uses um but anything beyond that it's it's just not quite nailed down yet my concern is that okay we we we allow
the The Artisans to have the space so then the next person comes in and says well I need this space and the next person comes in says I need this space and I need this space and then so how does the board sort of work through those things when there's not necessarily a process currently in place right I think we need to I think we need to have that figure out I don't think
you need that answer today I think the board's receptive to the four times a year for the auditorium of course and we'll take your request under advisement and as the plan evolv comes revolves you know we'll know is there space for your request right and then you know and we
bring in about 1,200 people annually you know that's part of the equation for the shows well the shows I mean we're separating the shows from from space so wherever our storage is is usually where we'll have but the activity in the storage would also be
four times a year I think Long Meadow did something similar when they had that old elementary school that they they converted and um I remember taking some photography classes there when they would rent out rooms and stuff like that right so I mean personally I'm I'm open to the idea but to Brian's point I think we need to nail down the governmental
structure first and prioritize where everything's going before we can say you know outside organizations yeah list yes th on the list think about it exctly great you have a thousand people go to the show
about 1,200 pry big yes for the divided by four four shows yeah we're very popular you haven't been John John was there he just win wasn't that a great show and the show before Thor Burgess as well
was they do a nice job we have our beautiful walls but it was much better I will say at Thor Burgess you know it was spread out I mean I don't get me wrong I you know I was at the senior center for kajillion years and I love it there but the lighting the bathrooms you know all
of the stuff that you guys certainly are going to deal with are I think it was the segregation of the rooms too because you had this and then that and then and we have no storage which is you know very very difficult to deal with not that we need a lot but it's just just something so we could actually
walls this place would open up for storage too though right got to figure out what's going on there right options right but I mean once we put something in here then there's a level of upkeep as well you know with heating and lighting and all that so
MH yeah under advisement they first one in good point way to do it that's right get in before anybody else oh I see the Scouts in the hallway yeah all right well thank you than you good see you guys let you know if hat
lady gets in touch with me all right thank you for your time good night SCH how are you well we have the Building Commissioner here oh yeah that guy and we got water we got water
water's first I guess we'll move we'll move to the Building Commissioner hey up we have cookies what a little warm up budget hey go ahead no no have one no thank you I I listen to the meetings and all I hear is
that bag crumbling and it drives me nuts you got to put them in a pole or something there you go that's what they do in Washington do we have speakers Today l
you're looking great feel great welcome commissioner what do you got same thing really as last year but with no um salary Lines no salary good okay I like
that I think you think he was reinterpreting what you said there I don't you do want to you yeah I think I need to I think if you've seen my work in the last couple months why you why do you I deserve it why do you divide why
do you divide up the code in in the inspections is that was a pig right above mine when I started I was strictly a a building inspector and then later on they threw the oh by the way yeah here you get to do this so so you just kind
of divided you just yeah that's how they that's how they arrived at it but really zoning is an integral part of building no matter what everything you do is zoning for the most part how's your fees they need to be upped no I think
they're fair with regards to the surrounding communities you don't want to have them be so high that it's like a back tax you know how's our staffing with we have inspectors and backup inspectors corre yeah for myself
as well um John and wilam backs up for me when I'm gone and I take care of him when he's on vacation and they get paid for the fees they get paid out of the revolving fund and they get paid by the inspection if needed um the other inspectors could have a
revolving fund the electrical gas and plumbing inspector get paid out of the revolving fund so they self- sustained I wish Cliff was here CU then he that's his CU to go well the building department kind of sell sustains too
right but we're supposed to take in enough money to run the department and not be like a profit Center okay um I'll talk about the elephant in the room you we share before should we be looking at a vehicle you had your thoughts and we've
always discussed this m and for my own I'm so used to using my truck now I get reim I have reimbursement figured in for the mileage we've averaged out the the amount of mileage I do based on inspections or zoning complaints and it
really ends up being you know a couple hundred bucks a month which I feel like it's more than fair for the community but either way you know you if you had a car you have to ensure it gas it up and it's all the same okay so from my perspective well my question was asking
that was your comfortable with it I don't want it to be something you like gosh I wish they got you know eating at you or something like that no there's no I'm not a disgruntled employee and there's no gruntle and W this was the way the job was sold
to me this is let's have him come in every week Don please this was the deal that I made when I started so the next guy might go hey I don't want to use my M you know but that'll be a deal that you guys get to make with them okay so only thing
we have to change with this then is the uh Cola and exactly get to and also there's a part there in bold print where just so you for your own knowledge I said it last year I haven't got a an actual raise since the Collins and
Company came to town I've been here 10 years now that's five years without a raise and only Cola um and again you know a ra mean mean a step increase or something uh I don't know what you want to call it you know you
get the callers absolutely okay I think I got two and a half% last year and probably The Identical one the year before and the year before any only reasoning it up I thought we you're aware there was more
than two and a half last year wasn't it Don I thought it was was the cola last year what was it four I think it was three probably was the cola was four but the one thing we could do is see you're at the grade and step I mean I think it'd be fair enough to maybe uh maybe have a
uh you know analysis uh basically you know and see if he's if we hasn't had one in 10 years certainly more than overdue since cins Andy came to town but literally you know we had this discussion last year
you guys were all like that's great go to advisory when I went to advisory it was a non-starter I work for you guys yeah so the day after I think I met with advisory cck said how'd it go and I went not well no but no the I got that but
the thing that puzzles me is I don't think that's how the step thing is supposed to work I mean you're saying you haven't had a step change in 5 years correct then that's Max yes you're at the max see what happened when I started no six is not the max is
it well I don't know but for my scale that's how it's been explained to me when I started I negotiated with you Vinnie and Norm I think Norm was at the time a starting R nobody ever said hey by the way did you know you're going to
max out after four years five years that's pretty much how long it takes to study to become a Building Commissioner but again I'll be here 10 years actually I'm here 10 years April 1st yeah let's go to
12 six great seven there's Maxes with regards to what no their ability to no okay let so again we had this conversation last year I think the year before last year you were you guys were
down with me getting a b 11 then nothing happened according to the Chart he at 11 not six 11 right it says 76 on your request it really it may be an old one it hasn't moved well it be really old if it's at
11 I think when Collins came they were saying the chart should be updated yearly or you know every few years I think CLI adjust U nli di adjust that over here by the I think by the yeah but I mean you know again I'm not a dis rumbl
employee I love working in Hampton it's my hometown this is 25 I wish I could say everybody's getting nicer but the last the last few months have been torture and you've experienced it with
me so right he keeps every year gets a quality getting boosted higher than a step but again even a longevity bump or something would help look into it offline you I think has been happening is no I think that number refle the call on top of R
the 60 was at just Cola Cola Cola but never getting a step change yeah okay we need to look at that make sure treat you know our conversation goes fine the conversation when I go to
advisory does not go well I mean working for municipal life is not a get rich quick when are you going to advisory you you know uh the 24th I believe okay well let's make an effort to get some clarity on that so he goes in with the right background okay talk about it let talk
about it tomorrow dig into it tomorrow trying to get into the laser Fe she might be dumb by the time we close her great I don't have a problem this is the way it was supposed to work all right great thank you thank
you take one to go take one to go take a cookie thank you again drives me nuts when I watch this oh come on watching oh all of them have to know what's going on here is where the big
stuff happens they just crinkle and they don't want people to hear what they're saying yeah right realize that take care let's get back on schedule what fire
here we have we have the fire department Department of fires you got departmental budget all right what's your pitch hello chief hello how are you under cover see all
the go ahead off thank you for everything you guys have been doing good season hey chief before you start did I read that we're still officially in drought saw Mass Live western Mass yeah I mean even
with the I think you say throughout our biggest spars are probably you know brush fires or wildfires but we obviously don't have that concern with the ice we still haven't had the replenishment in the groundwater to this point yeah yeah so it' be interesting to see what the spring brings for us um we
got some snow that's going to melt right now yeah covering might help I was surprised the picture of Mass Live about how still red and orangee around the state yeah I don't think we but we never caught up after the fall you it was so dry it was really caught up on
that and I the ground's frozen and whatever rain we did get you know for the month it just washed right off into and before you start with new money how's the truck looking the new so the the new forestry truck yeah um I called
I an update last week is now going to be the chassis deled the second quarter and it's looking somewhere around Thanksgiving as a delivery date the completion date of it so it's a Christmas present at this point maybe maybe keep my fingers crossed I mean
he's kind of got I kind of got to go what he says yeah then it be a we can't run it diesel so um we have some increases on the budget for um the next fiscal year I think the biggest one
is is our software the um they're changing the way the fire reporting goes um so our current system we use ERS was purchased by ESO um and they'll have a software
system that will provide us with um you know everything we need matches what we currently have of course they purchased the one we current the company we currently use now so so um they're willing to you know come in and match and transfer all the records and stuff
over for it there's three quotes in there I think there's one um cheaper than that it doesn't give us everything we we have now um but I put in for the middle grade uh ESO
one and there's some um we've had a lot of mechanical issues with the F this year here so there's some money in there to cover that um Peter hatch is you know like our mechanic he's been great he's fixed awful lot of stuff that's not even
included in that um so to speak he doesn't charge us for it so that number could be so much higher that's why we put in for you know we had um the back of the tanker rotted out we had to bring that have that all um repaired
welded we've had valves go bad we've had a fuel tank as I was here before for the fall town meeting looking for money and you told me expend it spend my account down we had to replace a fuel tank in the in the squad for that as well so that's that's some of the money
as well that you see for um just equipment and the expenses of n the National Grid electric bill and the eversource gas bill is in right now the salary the salaries for the for
the full-time folks is that does that is that just a the step increase or is that no that that shouldn't that shouldn't be on there that's going to be something that brought to um the Town Administrator for um I guess you would
call it would the correct wordage be a grade review or so so it's 24 88 to is that is that grade that increase in the grade is that the um it matches with the highway department was hired at their new their
new employees were hired at that rate and um so I feel as the firefighters working now should at least make one a highway department person I mean they have the they've been through the training of firef far one to they
hold the EMT licenses that they have to do their courses for so that that doesn't reflect a Coler either though right it's just a grade thing reflect a call like if they went on a call you mean no no a
call do that's just a grade upgrade right the 2488 is firefighters and then the 3732 is EMT is that how is that that backlash is that's what the time and a half would be that's what time and a half would be so
the first one's State time the next one's overtime yeah in their salary or in their work schedule they have 2 hours of reporting for training every Monday and um that's figured into their salary because we asked them to do that when
they were hired so they still are training with the members of the fire department or they have you know so you're looking for equality and skill positions basically you're saying you have DPW skill positions and you f the firefighters the full-time guy people
should be at the same should be on par with them right okay and what's the part the supervisor increase that cuz I see 2873 and 2823 the difference is what the 50 Cent
difference is what first step and second step first first step and second step when I did the calculations Joe is on his second step Brendan's on his first step so the first figure is for Joe that's the higher
figure that's at his current step so is this a is this a grade change as well as basically you asking for a grade change for the firefighters I don't know exactly what it would be well the steps are typically as part of the grade thing
so yeah we would have to I guess I think like we should have gone to the Town Administrator first before putting it on there um so I think that's something I would discuss with how it would fit or what he
felt yeah I have I'm not even sure the highway department employees are on the grade are on the college report I think there either contract dictates contct cont but I think you're bring up a valid
concern I think it's worth exploring with Brian you make sure Equity it's it's really hard to find quality good people um we have some good people I don't want them to be upset and leave because you know not that I'm saying they would but I I just don't want to go
to you know to go there what's the shift coverage that is someone El sick or something so you you call a call person in for that correct shift coverage and they get one week of training and the the the things for the
the clerk and the fire chief and those just reflect last year's numbers still or is there an increase there the fire chief reflects last year's numbers the clerk um is when when Jean was hired um marle told me that um name from the past
said that if she does a good job um she could go for a grade review and she could get bumped up we'll give her minimum wage I I mentioned I mentioned this last year and I I got everybody like yeah yeah yeah and I said something about bumping out hours but this is just
a rate increase and then um I want the finance um committee and they're like yeah yeah yeah then nothing ever happen um but so so now I put on this radar again to and then again I'm going to shift it over over to Brian this is something that that you know should have
first started there well this is kind of what we were talking about when a little while ago did we ever have a performance evaluation looks like he hasn't really had one in 5 years and that's on us clerical though the fire department should that be reviewed by us for performance evaluation or should that be
you and so to speak the team and then present that to Brian on the board you know so is it a two-step thing that you all evaluate jeans's performance and say you know we're going to recommend a step SLG grade change to Brian which if he agrees
he would bring it back to us sounds like the proper thing to do you know Bob kind of made that you know you said after you know six months and um come on come back and it's been you know for a year so okay well I
think we need to honor that I mean it was Jean came in expecting that and so you know we don't want to make a false promise you can drive the firet trucks as well right you pull back up and all okay she does all the back and up into
what's the EMS QA Assurance was Pat doing that before is that what Pat was doing before yeah yeah he takes care of all the EMS calls filing with the state so wasn't funded last year or it it was
funded last year it's just a line I'm on here it was um I came to the board for that position that was approved so that was so mid year it might have been mid year because he took over right I remember Pat was
doing it but he was doing it through the hours P was doing it and he was doing it through um CU we were doing pum coverage at the time yeah and he was picking up shift doing it doing it um on that shift so once we hired a third person it
became more of a job okay what's he do what's it do he he takes care of all our B um calls he has to we still have to do we have to file reports as well um we has to follow up on them Overlook them oversee them
make sure go through them talks to our medical director ensures all our our ambulance um it's called even though it's a fly card still reference as an ambulance he checks all the medications makes her up to date with the day crew and stuff make sure that they're getting their proper training make sure we're as
EMT is getting proper training MH fire operation okay training STP in if if you had a total for 25 to compare to 26 what would it be do you know and also there's no total you mean increase what was last year's numbers cuz they're not here for
reference let's see it's uh two 28 282 oh this is last year okay 188 and 48 188 and 48 C so it's about 20,000 bucks yeah which which well which 177,000 of
it's in the you got 20 software you got 20 I mean software and you took the middle one you said even not even the high price right the other one 10,000 so you got 188 and
48 excuse me this one want up about 19 this one goes up about 17 and that one goes up 20 about 89% increase you think actually looks like 60 it might be a little more but I don't if we can really like I
say put put the software on you the software is the software what are you going to do yeah I try to hold it tight last year I think we did a small 2% last year with the just for um but the the expenses of just equipment it's aging out it's it's I want to say it's cheaper
than a new fire truck but I mean we have to make the repairs as you know as they happen and you know we do have some you know we had a lot of activity the brush season and and you know came out my equipment
at 67 excuse me well they TI yeah but is it unjustified I don't think so I think a chief makes a compelling argument for the equality between and if there were promises made
as well that has to be honored too so is that are you quoting Robert Frost are we diverging in two roads how'd that go promises made promise promises made and Promises to Keep were
you there when he actually were you there when he actually said that Don I believe I was you know bring a little cultur to these guys so all right thank you when are you supposed to meet with the adviser until
March that's good because that'll give Bri a chance to thanks you want thank you thank you okay water water water water everywhere Alfred Lord tennis good
evening hey John John how are you I'm doing well thank you well you signed up you didn't know it' be this busy huh it's been an adventure there you go thank you for that I appreciate it did you get a copy of
myree you do there not much to it no but I have to point out that salaries are not on propan not electricity never came through my department so that's all been
covered elsewhere excuse me I think Jane was just handling that before right yes it's correct there's $110,000 station right from there well okay uh where I came up with ,000 yeah is I had an estimate made
of $42 per customer per month iul appli that by 34 potential customers still not a final n number yet because we haven't had commitments yet right but that I had a question on that the $42 per customer
is what that's the operation cost when you say operation cost you mean the cost of the electricity to run the pumps no that's the uh water operator water operators Okay so East West charges sorry you you don't bid it out but I
mean they kind they charge you per customer I well not really I asked them for per customer quote so we could do some decent uh you know projections here and that's the reason he came up with at $42 so that's where that number came
from we were at what 11 last year probably 12 we also are adding yeah double of the district double the numbers yeah 11 what 11 customers no 11,000 11,000 I think it was like 11 or 12 last
year now when he charges does he doesn't charge for the municipal buildings or he does I'm sorry well I'm saying we have three municipal buildings on the water the whole system so anything on the system yeah everything on the system is
considered as custom mhm so then the electricity so so this is the operation part but there's no and testing JF testing I don't think we filled propane right I mean you don't
have but the other part of the budget like I say the electricity things like that that's been absorbed by the health department I believe and James dat paid those and I'm not sure where those funds came from because they're not part of they would never been included in my operation the
electric bill for right for the pumping station huh I actually don't recall seeing those oh we get one every month I don't see them but I mean when we sign the electric bills I mean I usually see them referencing locations I don't think I've
seen seven yeah we we've signed before cuz i' I've signed off on them in our meetings and we've signed off on them up here afterwards all so that's kind of a question then back for our bills done so it comes back from the Board of Health so we're going to are we seeing an going to see an increase basically back in our
bills here's one actually a copy of one how much is that I Supply uh I Supply that to sorry to Bellar number okay so if that's say 1,200 a year now
that you're increasing the pumps and stuff like that are we going to be looking for an increase in our budget need a budget like electricity propane operator yeah but I'm saying we're not signing off on right yeah I see you initialed it but I I'm saying I
don't recall I really don't recall we would noticed that and I'm telling you yeah I know you're It Go you're very you're very well you look up there you see Street comes to that no you see street light you see Main Street I don't recall the pump station on that often if
at all so my question is why why why wouldn't it go under the Water Commission all this stuff I think it should it should know accoun for accounting purposes think we have to evolve to that right because I anticipate that there need to be
clerical help too yeah Jan was just doing it whenever she had free time yeah so yeah when you're going to bring on this this additional customers there's going to be things that are going to happen I would even suggest that your your budget lineups could be electricity
propane operator cost Clerk and then I I would encourage the Commissioners to think about what happens if there's like a water main break or something at least like budget for like one emergency response or think about something like
that where yeah what happens if there is a water B break who do you call Bob well the procedure now which has to change anyway wait police get notified turn around and notify Jane and then Jane does her dance and
Jane Jane comes out with her truck and shovel but again so Bob goes coordinates the system which is an extra charge right yes which you pay out of operations what part of the budget it's got to be part water
operation cost Opti right and which has happened more in the past couple years see we getting more notices about that I know John you expressed some concerns about the wells per se in terms of our you know there's not a clay layer per se like you see in
other Deep Water Deep Wells Y is there a way to remediate that in terms of like changing the casing or making a more sturdy casing for the upper 20 to 30 feet from what I've been told it depends a lot on the weather we get a lot of
rain mhm it tends to get into the well somehow and even those Wells are down 90 plus feet um right but that that reflects of the caseing you got down to hopefully below that but there's I heard like you say you don't have a clay layer that's
supposed to be the impermeable part between I thought the wells were never tested positive for oh the last time one of the wells um which one was it that's the first time then wasn't it number one was number one I don't know I think so
yeah anyway there's two Wells back there and they're what 20 30 ft apart yeah one will get a hit one won't MH and um I've been assured that this happening everywhere fortunately call form is not
a dangerous situation they get more C form if you licking finger so when did the testing cost um you see the testing cost is
refle uh scheduled testing goes what twice a year to every home yeah I mean they tast they test it to pump station and then they'll test the customer this town hall is one of them I believe that gets tested was it quarterly or was it by annually I think
it's quarterly quarterly yeah I then he does it Pump House monthly yep so we're testing both ends of the water supply yeah State requires it so when we add all the new people which we're adding so we don't pay for
the testing we're going to have another testing cost anyhow y y instead of the past testing but a cheaper testing yeah we paid the when they when they have a detection on a well um within next number of days I don't
recall how many is it three days or something it's $90 for the first test which uh you know states that there's a Col for par and they go back for the second test and U that's probably $225 so
$315 whenever he get one his test it's progress we had one test here two four of February 4th which had a positive result so they went back and tested on 26 uh the second test so
$315 do they have to test once everyone's on do they have to test everyone no just to just test the you test have to test the source right which in this case has been one well out of the two and then it should
be testing uh on routine somewhere in the system no I mean not for the E you're saying the testing here you have to test oh that's def the source and every person hooked up there's no no everybody well what's
the every year once a year you have to test for back flow okay that's I'm trying to figure out the different testing here you're saying testing is 4,000 total per year which does not include wjf testing which is more than 100,000 a year yes that's the landfill
part of the testing that's being handled by the by the health department yes right but I mean when we okay those are the test for the people who aren't hooked up or hooked
up or what 100,000 100,000 are we talking about here 100,000 is the one for the posos testing right now right that's what I'm saying he's just throwing that as a reference in there yeah I got that I'm saying is that the one that's projected to decrease once we connect up that's what I'm trying to get that should go away yeah
or hopefully everybody hooks up you know yeah so back to your scheduling thing sh I thought B are is hoping to start in the spring they were talking about sometime in March okay and May appr so is there a potential that if they
complete this they're not going to take forever I'm talking they're pretty you know robust company they could easily do this whole project in under a month I would think no or no we've got to build a new pumping station so so they're not starting it okay the the road part of it
is starting when we don't have that yet okay start as soon as March depending on the ground think the part that's starting in March is the pump station part they may start the road we have not had this discussion yet but we told them
they cannot charge the new lines until the pumping station is finished because we'll can't support right they could lay new pipe but not connect them that's correct okay is there a chance then that the Sal project will be done inside the
upcoming fiscal year yes right so potentially that testing cost this could be worst case and you would think that okay we're going to turn on the new pumping station and cost which testing cost is worst Cas 100,000 oh well that that's the one
we've already budgeted for though that we've already talked about numerous times I understand that but it's in there for the hundred now but you're saying if you turn on the you complete the project in December it's not in here he's just throwing it as a reference of what would he understand that but I'm
saying that's in last year's number so potentially that could drop we wouldn't need that whole 100 next year think about he's thinking about appropriating for 26 all the 100,000 the one for the transportation we talking about getting away from that we potentially but you
know we won't know until everything's said and done and this gets back into this one of those ones I was talking about is this where we take a small shot in worst case we have to throw a little extra in in the fall we say Okay B thear should be done throw the switch by the end of 25 I
would think so so we're going would by summer if I had to guess well they got to build the whole thing you're say worst case so we say we throw 50 in it 50 in and if we don't need the second year testing we don't need to put any more in if we they finish in September we might have a little extra to take
back but we don't we still got to put something in there your first quarter is going to need something probably yeah you're not going to finish by July 1 and before it was not on the onus of the water district because it was the transfer station issues right so
that John got thrown in that mix there with that are you going to move that over into the water district the uh wjf testing I don't know this at this point I almost like feel like at some point we're going to need a water an actual
water I want to say office but Brian and I had this conversation here at some point this is putting a lot on you and now we've got potential billing Etc I think Brian even talked about clerical maybe
for you know this we need a clerk need a cl to right 2016 you and almost is this one of those separation things we talked about in the job of the Board of Health is this water district SL
landfill oversight separate from Board of Health yeah so all right I think we got our heads around this one yeah and again I want to thank you and Paul and the other guy for all the work you're doing what's his
name yeah can I work with John on getting revising their budget it out a little bit right okay we had it by the way we had our meeting last Wednesday was did you kind of count 11
people was that the number I count of nine households nine households show up it was live really at times M so what's the general feeling do they understand what the project is yeah
more concerned about do I have to pay for anything I have to say this is one of those things where the people that don't show up honestly after being unnotified are fine with it I think yeah The Advisory is that next Monday night
every Monday okay you could probably wander downstairs and ask you know what when they want to see you no no but this goes back same thing as the fire department if they're asking you for a date if you could put it out a bit because Brian's got some answers to get to you first yeah so rather than go to
them and say I don't have this answer yet I think we have to have a discussion how we're going to structure this sure right the Jane use that term her duties get transferred to it
someone new we haven't defined that yet yeah so that's what I'm saying try and if they're going to bring in try and get in March sometime what do they have what was last one Mike March 24th or something he said yeah great we're moving on thanks
John take care Oh bet highway now we got the easy guy Highway nice job on the storm this weekend by the way I will say I'll have to I'd like to thank uh the police department for early
notification and uh and then just the the rest of the crew full-tim and the part-timers hung in a long nasty storm so all right let's get the easy part done easy part yeah yeah he want he want he
wants he wants he wants approval to override the snow and ice account yeah we budgeted money we give you money at the town meeting look at this seven months and you've gone through it like with the kids isn't it Don you know I was thinking about it it it seemed that no matter it's
about the same as every year Fe yeah it this actually better than some years I can recall voting on this in December in the past so this is good all the storms are late now you got the February that's good yeah we're trending I mean really second week to February or whatever
seems like no matter how how much we get something whether you know something takes up the the void whether how does the equipment hold up in this kind of ice stuff um we've had a a
couple big ticket breakdowns um but we've been able so far so good yeah um as long as we take it take it easy and and uh what's the mailbox count not too bad
not too bad not too bad I'll make a motion to authorize the overdraft of the snow and ice account second in favor all there you go thank you spend away okay
right you really can't tell us much CU contracts are still in negotiation and that's the big part of your budget correct um you know I mean I I can say that that all the other accounts are in in very good shape uh we're kind of
right where we usually are this time of year um um uh going forward for fiscal year 26 um kept everything level um and and then obviously we're working towards uh
getting those salaries adjusted or you know finalized um there was one item it's it's not under my budget I think it's under the selectman's budget but the gasoline that
um I had Brian had asked about that today and I had asked if we could bump that up a little bit and and for a couple reasons um feel like you know and I'm not I mean this is it's just I'm going to say it
but we've got more more Vehicles kind of operating on a daily basis um namely the fire department um so I mean just to bump it up I think we were looking at an extra 500 ,000 and honestly if I understand it's it's going
to be a tough year this year honestly if if we can't originally I had asked for 10,000 but we kind of settled on five but um if if we can't do it then uh I'll make 50 work I have to say equipment wise Mark yeah your equipment's in
pretty good shape in terms of replacement except for the mower that's about it well we've been doing a really good job with The Replacements um there's one I think I had mentioned this in our kickoff meeting we still we do have an' 04 uh
dump truck diesel it's still running in in uh it's still in pretty good shape and um you know that that could last us as a reliable you know a reliable piece of of equipment that could last us a
couple more years so um than value is going to go up that piece and yeah and everything going on oh yeah when they go all electric Mark You' be able to sell that on eBay for nothing that's the plan or keep it retrofitting it cheaper okay so you have three warrant
articles proposed correct okay um first one is is our normal chapter 90 um article uh and then
uh the next two well is I've been I'll start with a lawnmower um so in anticipation of you know seeing what was going to happen with uh thoron Burgess in the town hall and and that arrangement I have actually been putting
off a new mower for at least two years um now that it seems we're making that move um I've decided to uh price you know price that out
and and see if if you know if now was a good time for me to um replace that that old mower um so this would be uh a little bit a little bit bigger of a cut um with the
extra um acreage I guess you could say and um also a bagging system so that's it went from a 52 inch cut which we've currently have to a 60 inch um with a bagging [Music]
system and the estimate is uh you know we're looking at the in low low 20s um is this your biggest mower I mean you don't have you don't have like a a disc system behind a tractor or something like that
when you do you know let's see I'm trying to think of areas you mow right now which is the senior center uh the town hall yeah Academy Hall yes you don't do the police station we haven't in a couple
years we should be for Tom property and there's no reason we should be paying somebody else to do it so the one you'll be picking up will be obviously twb correct yes all right and that acreage probably is as much as
all the other ones put together you don't do the ball field builds correct I mean when I look at what you're doing now M that's as big up at them all together as what you're going to be picking up at the at the school and there's still been some question as to
um and and very little discussion but um there still should be a a determination made as to um you know perhaps splitting the mowing um between parks and wreck and Highway
Department um Dan and I have had a brief conversation about how that could look um as far as parts and wreck maintaining just the playing fields that way there um we're not
obligated or not obligated is isn't the right word but under the gun to have things mowed on a certain day you know Field playing but don't they mow them now they do they do so what would be the difference I'm just
bringing this up for no I'm saying so they Cur remember they came several years ago and they had to have a truck because it was inconvenient to ask you they didn't want inconvenience you to keep bringing the mower back and forth so we gave them a truck and a trailer so
they could bring their mower back and forth so they've been mowing the ball fields for several years yeah few years anyway while the school has been doing the rest of the yard so and maybe an overcut but then some sometimes they need the soccer field cut a little lower because they
have a weekend game or something sure absolutely right so we would essentially then we would be picking up you know SCH everything else including the the leaf the leaf pickup and and everything else so that's why I needed to include a a bagging system with this with this
machine so um that's the short story on the on the mower mhm um now the uh the second the second article is for um a compact wheel
loader so in 2016 um I purchased a a loader to um and I won't say completely replace but to supplement an aging um unreliable for
snow operations John Deere loader um so we're getting a or n years into that um it's to the point now where the John Deere loader um while it still has some tradeing
value uh in my opinion should be taking out taken out of service traded in um for a um a newer a new more reliable machine um okay I might Mark can I just jump in here I I might have a different
recollection okay and I don't recall when that was maybe before you done but we talked about the John Deere being unreliable and getting a replacement for it correct and at that point we looked at the tradein
value for the John Deere which was minimal but it would be a tremendous asset to keep there and now it could load the sand and salt into the trucks rather than bringing the other one back off the road yes to do the work oh yeah absolutely no that's and so we would
just payment keep it and to use it run it till it dies basically cuz there was more value in keeping it there than we were going to get for shoot you know just selling it for the tires and the steel at that point yeah so now you have
that one there which loads the trucks you keep the other the Volvo on the road doing corre plowing things yes and I'm not a fan of loaders going out and plowing roads I think dump trucks are better for that yeah the
loader is great for when you have to go back and do the corners like around the Village Food Mart and the get knocked the uh the big piles down and stuff like that my opinion you like the convenience I'm saying the convenience of having that
vehicle there to load the trucks can't be overstated it's terrific you don't have to bring the other one in MH but you also have I thought a new tractor doesn't it have a is the scoop on that be too small to do that that to load the the dump trucks coming in so that
tractor didn't come through with a I know it doesn't but I mean to put us to put a scoop on that a bucket on that yeah that even if and if I could and to my knowledge um they were in the process of looking
to make a retro kit for that um to my knowledge it has not been like invented yet M so and even if they did that bucket would I mean yes we could if we could we could load with that but it
would take several several buckets to to load of sand okay where here's my other question now we have we have a pretty good Fleet of num trucks with plows m is keeping the other
one on the road to plow that critical what do you what roads do you plow with the Volvo 10 be completely honest I'll say that the Volvo the the loader plows more snow in this town than any of our dump trucks or any of our other trucks does
it it does I mean that is a very more powerful than it's you know with the right tires on it um it's got It's uh got excellent traction we can send that that anywhere I mean it's a do all
machine um with a the right operator the gentleman that that runs that machine um can't say enough about it m um to be able to and again and and again the decision to take over uh Thorton Burgess
kind of pushed me in this direction as well okay so we're going to need a more versatile something that can that can help um plow that lot in a in a um you know in a in a reasonable amount
amount of time um and have the power in case we we have a large snowstorm have the power to do so um and and I'm not just talking about uh I'm not just talking about winter operations it I mean it'll be huge in Winter operations
but in the summer or off out of winter you know it'll it'll be just a handy um versatile uh piece of equipment that I can send crews in opposite directions each with their own um
if need be um it can be staged at a location um so I guess in in my opinion um that would be the best option for us for the
town and that you're projecting at around two no more than two um and I should say that was priced with a plow but also $116,000 of that price is for a snow
Pusher box for parking for large parking lots and I can I could very easily take that that snow Pusher you know off off the the price and you have no thought for any trade in value on the other so um uh currently it's I think it's uh
8,000 for the tradein plus the plow he's got to come back and look at the plow which maybe be another $1,000 or something like that but no so again it's your job no I'm not it's your job to request these things you have an Department to run this is
how you see the most efficient going forward and your job to bring it forward to us sure right so and that's it for you name the loader after Don he would get it for you but you I want check right now
yeah you can have the maen madeen voyage that'll get your dryway done my wife is slowing down at the sh but I Envision so I Envision this loader loading Sanders okay I Envision it um now that we have a reliable piece
of equipment I Envision it helping uh our plow operations and then at a certain at a certain point in the storm towards the end that loader will break free and start um you know start the parking lot at um it's a it's a big big
area um so that's what I Envision and and uh thank you for for letting me explain that so many loaders in East meal you don't still have keys I don't all right
um okay so we need to wait until the contracts SP then we'll have the final numbers at that point sure absolutely maybe if you haven't scheduled with advisor yet have you so I'm on uh Monday night the 28th I can see if I can write Doug and see if I
can postpone that well I mean because you you really can't come in with anything yeah that's true finite yeah I'll do that are they downstairs Lauren toight I know okay Monday Monday was a holiday they they're
not meeting this week right no um I know I'm running running behind here but I I do also have oh I'm sorry oh update on Bridges okay yeah so the other the other uh item I want to
address the board about was um petitioning so I guess there's a process we need to um part of part of the town's responsibility for the pro for the rocket dundy road project was we had to have a layout of established by
professional land surveyor um and that was our only obligation so we went ahead and did that um now the state has their their plans um now what the town has to do is is have this layout accepted um I
this is the first time I've done it but I understand that the first process is to petition the select board um once we get their blessing then these plans go to the planning board and I'm sure we may have been through this before but then it goes to town meeting so is there
a potential of some actual taking to make this official is that what you're saying there is a potential um and actually what I'll do is just just give you a copy of the layout and I have this on electronically
so I can um send it to you so if you look at the um that would be the I think it's the southeast section of the bridge MH where the right of way is Cuts kind of close
to where a potential Wing wall would be mhm um the brid the bridge is actually so the bottom section to the left is where the river crossing is MH um there's a small area there that we
may need to um take a maybe a or petition the landowner for a temporary construction easement um for that Wing wall to be completed other than that I don't I don't see the
necessity to to do any other um easements or land takings this the problem is this is one of those roads that was in existence before the town is you know boundaries of it are kind of like IL defined if you will it's almost
like going up north Road and the definition is the stone wall and that's that's all it is so that's exactly what happened and um you know the state had asked if we could if we could uh you know survey I think it was 300 ft we went a little bit more so that they in
case anything you know came up during the project I think we went uh 500 ft each way from the bridge and um so we've completed Our obligation as far as that goes we just need to get this accepted through town meeting um is my
standing um while we're doing this do we need to get and I remember walking out there with you a couple of there was that one just past the bridge going west uh and a covert going off that way
are there any easements we should get recorded at the same time I know was something Dana was in the middle of you know a lot of these unofficial ones that were all around town and try and get codified uh J O'Brien won things like that just uh right let me John let me
look into that because I'm I'm not sure while you got the lawyer on the phone Now's the Time to do it right so um I was hoping to have the the these these copies here are the stamped copies I was hoping to have the myars and then there's a legal um meets and Bounds
description that um that they're going to be emailing me tomorrow and I will be picking up the m so I will have everything by the end of this week okay to forward to the planning board for the next um I guess the next phase of the process
it needs a warrant article though it does it says taking yes so the the street layout and acceptance process requires a petition to the select board to start the process it's a meets and bound it's us typically a meets and bound description of the layout of the
street right and the select board would vote if it was so inclined vote to refer it to the planning board planning board's required to hold a public hearing and provide comment back to the board um at that point it requires uh well it requires a town meeting vote so
the board would vote once it gets its planning board recommendation back whether to lay out the street and then if the board votes to lay out the street then there would be a warrant article placed on the warrant for the street to be accepted at town meeting isn't it
already a street no legally it's not a well yes it is it's street because it was it's not a laid out street it's a right but public Way by by by incorporation of town but who's petitioning the sweat
board so what's driving this is is mass do won't invest won't invest funds without so who's doing the petition uh the petition will would essentially be that it would be generated by the town um so it could be it could come from the
highway department okay so the highway department is going to petition us we're going to give it to the planning board yeah the planning board is going to do something and give it back to us with the recommendation and then we're going to vote on it again and then we're going
to send it to the town meeting and they're going to say no okay got it like a basically like a road process accepting a public road this is only correct but this is only just a section of a road not the not the entire this is
just a section A Road correct and that would survey the entire road so so okay so just you surveyed 500 ft in each Direction okay so so 1,000 ft of that road is going to
be accepted Road and the other 2,000 ft or whatever is going to be just there I mean I don't well I mean it goes all the way up to scanic and there's no I don't think you could say scanic is an accepted Road not necessarily A lot of these roads are um accepted
uh Road uh what's the term um common use correct yes thank you more than you probably well what's the difference between accepted and not accepted voter town meeting voter town meeting yeah accepted votes aren the
town doesn't have have to supp amenities to that's the you me fish L all right all right so that's that's a process it's a long process well it's there are some time uh limits that you know we have to
meet or the planning board has to meet the postings and stuff like that I think it could it could be reasonable to uh to have it ready for town meeting and um I had reached with Brian's permission I had reached out to Rose about like some
language and kind of helping us with any kind of you know let's say it's for some reason it's not it's not the end of the world I mean we do it at the we could do it in the fall we could do it in the fall I mean there's no like Rush that this has got to get the way this Project's been yeah
the state's not dropping the bridge off I would definitely start the process if you have all the stuff I would definitely start the process I made the same comments about uh about Kibby Lan it it can take a it can be a lengthier process sure okay all right so if you
look at on if you look in the upper left you'll see how much more the road is if you want to all the way up but again where do you stop you'd be pulling that thread all the way back to the center in town saying oh we should do scanic oh we should do South you you could tie them
up and you get back to I think Brian's Point here the planning board has plenty you got the battery thing going on to throw this on and say hey can you have this ready for Tom meeting might be a little much okay we'll see and the bridge isn't coming in tomorrow no no not like the
other Bridge we await your petition submitted the application for the South Road right South Road sure small bridge program uh yes South Road uh We've submitted the application for phase two which is the construction phase
um maybe a couple weeks ago um so that's that's under the the small Bridge Grant um just as a reminder the small Bridge Brant the small Bridge Grant through mast pays up to the first
500,000 okay um anything after that would be the municipalities responsibility um we're currently looking at a at a at a potential price tag uh of of that bridge re now it's a
BRI Bridge Rehabilitation um of 65,000 to 615,000 which means the town would be responsible for for uh 105 to
115,000 um options one option would be a a a very new funding resource through Mass do which is called rural roadways um we were just awarded uh 123,000 uh or thereabouts it was roughly
123,000 um and that money can be used for projects like this or to supplement um you know any deficiencies for municipality and projects like this so um while that may
you know not having that that money to do Road uh road work that may cost me a side street the way prices are now or you know um so so that's a that's an option and I just wanted to remind the board
um you know that they the state pays the first 500,000 and and um and I you know and I guess for for this year given the circumstances uh you know I I'd be very open to using that that
rural roadway money for this um and that way the town would not have to ex you know is there any danger of the Rocka dundy cost in the town or are they committed to and again I've been in some of those meetings with you and the lack
of definition can be scary now that was a tip application Brian they didn't they say they applied for tip on our behalf I believe that's what it was going to be unbeknownst to us but on our behalf yeah and I was under the under the impression that our
only responsibility was to pay to have that surve survey okay now we go to our favorite Bridge Laughing Brook okay if we go with the the plan submitted by
MVP that's going to be all on us I didn't hear anything about it because that was bigger than their plan was bigger than small Bridge because it increased the length that would turn what what is a small Bridge considered a small bridge by mass do do currently
into a large a large Bridge right um not a small Bridge not a small bridge and since it was a bridge that DOD tell us that is in imminent failure it's not like they're moving it to the top of there let's help you outlist either no
uh no so you would mentioned that there could be a possibility look if we're looking to repair the bridge but without the expansion from MVP it would qualify for small Bridge good and there's no limitation on how many small Bridges you
can apply for it's not like we just got one so you can't have one for 10 years correct you can you can apply I'm not sure about applying for multiple at the same time but certainly once we have the South Road Bridge uh you know situation and the other option is like you said
before putting aside the MVP concern about flooding there's concern about a couple of beams and there's potential for just repairing the beams which is something and I'm just going to kick over to Rick Summers Summers road we did a repair there which
I think was just welding some plates on to bring it into compliance right and the paint that was it and that was it didn't turnar it off it right and much less than a $4 million new bridge and what year was that if oh gosh in the
2000 sometime yeah that is an option that would have to probably have another uh chapter 85 review done for maybe a uh repair or rehab but I go back to what they brought to your attention from the dot
standpoint hey the outer number one and number 10 put the cones on them because we're worried about those two yes but the bridge bridge we're not worried about correct and clean up the concrete the spalling looks bad yes right then we go back to comparing back to MVP they're
concerned about flooding they've got the plan for that Garden sorry infiltration Basin over in the Laughing Brook oh yeah property which could be a thing but it just goes back to I'm still not convinced this isn't a
solution in search of a problem I really am not I've been here for one flooding incident in ' 05 Rick was here for the one back in 55 you know that was a great flood so I I'm
just just going back to is this a problem look a solution looking for a problem it very well be and I think you know and they got there right I'm right out there and Don You' had the same thing they made out pretty darn well
with the grant system from the state sure I it's a huge number and we don't have a spade in the ground and by the time they were done they still didn't even find the water main pipe running through it you know here's all our engineering Works hey what about that scanic uh
water system oh there's a pipe okay made your point thank you but you know I don't I don't bring my double polls up every meeting but I will did you notice the wires are off on some of them yes they are they didn't take the polls thank you we're going to
move on you made your point okay to the agenda next meeting double polls please I want Don to have a fair chance thank dou po that'll be an hour Street Bridge oh pictures again I got a thing that week what I got a thing
that week thank you thank you Mr yield the rest of my time Board of assessors please they left they fell asleep they leaving what's this oh Kelly hi Kelly Hi how are you hi
you guys can leave Kelly's thank you good evening ladies and gentlemen yeah so I see uh one of my board members Phil and Jason there hi so we came back to kind of pick up um
the discussion following the last meeting uh when we had come and discussed three local options um that were available to further extend uh benefits to Veterans and their families on their property tax
exemptions so I know we had talked about three different options but um since the last meeting I spoke to my board again we we had another meeting I also had a chance to speak to Jason again our veteran service officer and everyone
agreed that I think the main focus should be on Clause 22j um which is one of the new local options that was just passed under the hero the other two that were mentioned at the last meeting um we wanted to make
make everyone aware that they were available but and they have been for you know a few years back at least um but the 22j is is one of the new options and that is the one that allows
municipalities to increase the current exemption amounts for veterans by a certain percentage up to 100% So currently uh we have the Clause 22 veteran exemption which is for
veterans that have a 10% disability rating up to but not including 100% And they receive a $400 annual exemption and then we have the clause 22e which is for our 100% disabled
veterans and they currently receive $1,000 a year of their property taxes um so of those amounts the state reimburses all but $175 so they cover 225 on the $400
exemption and $825 on the ,000 exemption and there would so there would be no additional State reimbursement if Clause 22j were accepted uh which is why it's a local option that would have to be voted on a town
meeting Kelly they but they would still provide the 225 and the 400 is that it so they would continue yes they would continue to reimburse the amounts that they are currently so they would reimburse
$225 on the $400 exemption right and $825 on the th000 exemption so they would continue to do that um any additional amount would be covered by the town the 400 and the 1,000 is that
part of 22e is that in those where'd that come from yes so so the Clause 22 is 400 and that's for the 10% up to but not including 100% disabled veterans and the 22e is a separate Clause specifically
for our 100% disabled veterans okay and that's so 22j allows the town to doesn't necessarily have to be 100% we could increase the numbers you're saying we could make 22 instead of 400 we could make it 800 and we we could make 22e
instead of a th000 2,000 correct yes or any amount up to that that that obviously is the maximum does that allowed to change the number number does that does that change of number have to be in the article to town meeting the
percentage yes um to to bring it to town meeting um to have the Clause to have the Clause adopted you would have to set a percentage at that point um however I spoken to Jason about this too and it's my understanding that you can actually
start at a what you could adopt it to increase it by a percentage and then possibly go back at a later point to increase that percentage meaning again though yes correct yes so it's no longer fixed numbers if we change from it it goes to a percent not a fixed number so
you which you kept saying percentage of so what so you could say four if it's the 4 I take that one easy math 400 so say you go 25% which is 100 bucks so it would be $500 26 $500 27 is that that's
the fixed amount is the $500 now say in 2028 econom is doing great you guys are doing great and you say hey um we can increase it do another warrant say we're going to increase it from 25% to 50% so then it will go from $500 to $600 I
don't understand that so no no you're saying that the two clauses to run concurrently then so when you say percentages your percentage is always adding to the 400 is always going to be a base number correct okay that's that's part I'm going so all right yeah so any
percentage it would be it would be a set amount for both Clauses okay so the you can never well we know what they're like in town right now so you could never go when you said 100% before
the 100% is just the expansion of the credit so you're saying the biggest expansion you could be going 2000 is 2,000 correct if you went to the fully disabled 100% on top of the
Thousand yes no yes and no because you could adopt and say you could adopt to double it to to $2,000 and then you could say all right 2030 you can do a cost of living increase of 2.4% every year after that I
recommend that doesn't happen I recommend you just say hey we're going to give Max 100% you get $2,000 well this is where I had that confusion last time when I was looking at the 100% I was thinking I you I thought you were talking 100% of the
entire tax bill at that point that's well that's when we talked that's what I thought too that's what I thought so that's yeah we were talking about the overlay account okay my gosh if we were talking 10 bills we're just going to wipe out no if you have a 100% disability you get
a $1,000 tax credit right so it could go to 2,000 but we're still going to get the maximum that the state is allowing by 22j is 100,000 100% match of that which is a
grand so they would get 2,000 so it really should say 100% match not just 100% yeah I think there's could be some yeah yeah okay town will up 2000 going to say right now we right
now the Thousand is in there correct the town right now for the original thousand the town's on the hook for $175 of it right they now it will be another a thousand more because the state ship anymore yes sir and I don't want to get into personality with the how many homes
are currently are we talking right now there is right now there is 69 69 at the smaller percentage no um okay right now there
is right now there's 47 at the $400 and there's 22 at the $1,000 then there's so that's the 69 there's three that are fully abent that's they you can't double what you don't have a bill for so they
their taxes are fully covered so it doesn't affect those three at all okay but I mean so the the e part is 100% disability yes and there's 22 22 22 yes so that would be 22,000 if we went the 100% y that would
be 22,000 and the other 47 would be 18 thank you it was getting there so 100% 40 40,000 no no you were saying about 40 Grand last time anyhow we D 40,800 did you have a recommendation of
the match um with the tax accessors um they came up we would like to try 100% And that come out of overlay at this point yes yeah Kelly yes that comes out of overlay
it does yes yes any exemption or abatement amounts come out of the overlay I have a breakdown if you would like to see it what it is for 175 1525 that5 I think it's just you know it's a type of thing you're going to bring the
articles forward and is it what we want to do for our people in town I believe Jason's going to have vet Bring It Forward right and you know what about the other two J and G and H uh we those have been
in effect for a few years uh P we've passed on them before uh would just like to focus on J speak like to focus on Jay J Jay would be the um biggest beneficial to your veterans in in the community and
I is uh a Col adjustment the the Age part that bothers me not to get too deep into it is that there's no it doesn't make it there's no relevancy technically to the town you
could have Mr and Mrs toal Brown that lost his son who lived in Arizona 53 ,000 and 100% mat they would get a tax difference here because it doesn't say that person has to live with them that's why we're focusing on that's
what I'm saying that's that's the problem I got with h it just doesn't that's why we yeah when when I when I did I I did this letter when I did it I did it to give the options for what the state just pass so it every option available to the so you're focusing on J correct yes sir great so if we exceed
what's in the overlay then the rest is going on the tax base what's the overlay now 30 Kelly Kelly I'm sorry what's the overlay right now overlay amount the annual overlay amount that we currently have yeah I'd have to I'd have to take a
look I don't have no offand but I would say about 100,000 it's about 100,000 yeah okay it covers all of our abatements exemptions motor vehicle excise abatements and any other um you know ATB or outstanding liabilities and
it would have to cover this as well yes so that we'd have to increase that yes by 50,000 maybe yep or at least yes at least 41 but probably a little more because we do tend to get a couple new applications
each year right but this is not a town meeting action this believe the warrant a this is a part of the recap the State recap part when you set the overlay number with Cliff Etc I don't believe we vote on the overlay at the time no the
overlay is I'm sorry is no no but I'm saying when Kelly talk about the overlay number needed that's something you work out with the finance team and the State numbers Etc right now that's overlay and then you have overlay Reserve as well vote for
that okay right what do we what are we doing Don waiting for them to subit yeah let do it that was a passionate uh I think you'll do a great job at town meeting Jason thank
you can't present it so I can't he could explain War because I'm not a you can explain yeah what you can explain well although we've had that discussion before about oh my gosh out of town people can't stand up and talk but I think we're past that point at this
technically an employee of the Town yeah right he is he represent yeah there's 103 veterans discre and we have a people that on of no different than the superintendent okay so you're going to
submit to us you're going to submit to us article by March 1st and that has to be by when March 1st March 1st that's easy yeah I mean at least a placeholder placeholder you then
you can work out the wording later on you probably got a couple other anyhow right have any other motions it's your traditional stuff right stay the fourth Municipal all right thank Youk find more
money come in discussion let's go go that way have a cookie get this done we're going to skip nine I'm going to put nine off I disagree n coming up or you hanging out
works for me I hate it when you're switch languages what do you got what do you want to do all right so let's talk about let's have a town meeting what do you town meeting canel yeah let's have a to the state says we have to have one by the greaton general court we have to
have one so let's have stay but it's going to be in anytime as they adopt adopted sometime next December 26 right all right so we talked in the past and obviously we all have the same
goal which is you know to as best we can with all transparency expedite speed up pick your verbiage the tag so we talked about a couple of things we talked about using the consent
agenda um and just if you haven't been through it before the consent agenda is pretty straightforward um it requires close communication between you myself in the advisory to determine which questions would be put on a consent
agenda and then those questions whatever they are three four five 68 10 of them would be walked through separately and if the town meeting if the body proper if any one person we get to question three for example says hold that
question comes off the consent list and it's treated as every other question on the town meeting warrant all the questions that survive the consent are voted on singularly can just one person do that one person all it takes is and I've did a lot of research I got a ton
of responses on this all it takes is if you got to for example pick an obvious one um the annual ,000 for the conservation fund if we had that and let's say we only had two let's say we had that and the vote to accept the
highway money the annual chapter 90 state aid fund if those were the only two if I said number eight Conservation Commission th000 annual thing and somebody says hold it comes off the list and it gets treated as part of the regular question um and if if it
survives and they all get voted is one um the second thing we talked about which I think is clearly much easier and there didn't seem to be a lot of discussion amongst the moderators when it came out was whether or not and we talked about doing it this year but the special but we put it off which is does
the moderator need to read the entire question only to have Craig come up behind and read the entire motion um and the answer again was clearly no um I see that in a lot of YouTube to meetings they can summarize it yeah where the moderator
asked the for the question to be brought basically they that's it I mean you know we could simply say if you know again use one that's so wrote that everybody already understands it which is the chapter 90 we get to that and say this is the question whereby the town vot votes to accept state aid subject to borrow and
then Craig comes up and makes the motion so we can already do that that's an easy one we can do both of these um and obviously with the conversation we've had about electronic voting my biggest concern um and we talked about it last year when we were starting down this
path and it sounds like from what I just heard in this conversation is the warrant has to be closed sooner um the big trick in this seems to be and I have more to offer but the big trick in this seems to be the education of the voters and I don't necessarily mean the
education of bringing them to understand consent I think we can all do that fairly easily but it's all the questions that you may put on consent that they the voters should have as much notice as possible for example I think it's the town of Wayland they literally mail
their entire the warrant to every household a month ahead and in in that they're telling them what they what expectation there is for the questions to be considered via the consent order now certain things aren't practical and as we talked before I think the most
important thing starts with you folks en closing the warrant as fast as possible look you got to get the stuff in and and I don't say this uh I had a long I had a conversation with Doug Boyd which I want to clue you in on um you know I don't say hey look you know you guys got to start closing the warrant earlier look I
did this job for 18 years we never closed it any faster than you close it now I mean it was like a just wait somebody's going to try and come in we want to give everybody an opportunity to get all their ducks in a row if we're going to do this I mean to me in the final analysis the goal is to protect
the last form of the closest the people get to government which is the town meeting and the longer that we go on the process where the town meeting takes three or four hours Craig great suggestion last year about having babysitters the longer all this goes on the less interest there's going to be
and we're going to lose this um so but we can't just expedite it simply for the sake of doing it and we can't do it at the risk of losing transparency so having the conversation and Brian and I talked just before I went on vacation Brian and I talked about um you know one
of the one of the things is the pace at which the advisory committee conducts their hearings and does all their due diligence and Doug and I talked about it today um and roughly I don't want to put words in Doug's mouth um but the upshot of this is Doug is going to talk to the
advisory next week share the conversation we had today which was um to say that we all need to speed up and clamp down on the process processes quicker um and we would need the advisor in it too because this is really again
this is the point that has to be Beat to Death is it's going to be you me and them and when I say me it's the moderator it's not me it's the moderator to have a clear path as to what's going to happen so Doug is going to talk to his folks
and I think we should try and meet my suggestion I'd ask you guys that we try and meet the following week whether we all go to one of their meetings or they come here and we have this conversation about mapping this out sooner so that's the biggest thing we got to get all the stuff in place sooner I would tell you I
think the advisory committee needs to have their hearing even sooner um I said this to Doug today they're hearing maybe the state statute is two weeks prior or a week prior depending on special or regular I think they would my suggestion was if you could do it even further out would give us more time I mean we don't
need in essence their recommendations most of those are made from the floor anyway and the green sheetss are not processed with the recommended only the requested number anyway so a lot of this could be done sooner without putting undue pressure on anyone well I mean it's no different like you said before
the clo if they're not doing recommendations they're strictly job is to read the warrant Us closing the warrant and having it ready for publication sets I mean they could do their meeting the day after for crying theoretically they could because there's no difference to it at that point I mean
in time bylaw says there their primary function is to build the budget and if they fail to build the budget you have to build the budget but after that the rest of it we have an advisory committee we don't have a finance committee so after that is their is their job and obligation to make recommendations absolutely right but again they're
reading the requested requested requested this is what's brought before us right right so I but again and I think when you look at it all in that way this all lends itself to doing all of these things but it's it's got to be done so that the the worst thing that
can happen you know your father used to have this great expression once you've been to Perry you ain't going back to the farm and which always meant to me you get one chance to get it right it's never been a Paris in his life yeah well that's why he stayed in the farm that's why he stayed in the farm but I think I
think your other point this is something Craig has been pushing before we've been pretty good you were good we all want to be responsive to people oh you want to put something on the warrant we'll open it up and do it but now that we've come to this new
Paradigm if you will that we have the spring and the fall right and unless something is so dire that Grant closes tomorrow we need to take action on it if we close the warrant March 1st and the final draft is done April 1st if it
ain't ready we'll see you in October and you know and and I I unless it's something that Governor Healey says you can get that money by June 30th then maybe if there's a dire dire situation have a special the annual but I think you have
now that we're are a two meeting a year Town absolutely push it off I mean I was probably one of the last hold outs I mean I you know would get my get my you know hackles up every time we talked about special town meeting the fall town meeting is not a special town meeting
anymore it is part of the operation of the government and I might have been one of the last people to be accepting of that but that's what it is and you're right so it gives to me if you're not ready now then you'll be ready in the fall isn't the original definition actually isn't the election also called
a meeting yeah yeah it is so right technically that's a town meeting to elect the officials it just happens to run for 13 hours right or whatever it is yeah I mean well and again historically at the belor you we could do this stuff all night long but historically the
reason and the reason the town meeting comes first is because the town meeting met to give forgive the chauvinist to count but back in the day the town meeting was have was had to give select men their marching orders for the year
now our government doesn't work that way anymore but that's why it was done in the path it was done but now here we are all these years later and to Brian's point because we had a pretty quick but good conversation last week or the week before I went away was you know this is what we need to do we had to tighten it
up and we got to get everybody on the same page and work faster okay um this is what I shared with Doug today he's going to talk to group next week and again I think we should get together shortly thereafter okay the only other question I think comes into play here is
how much and I'm amenable to anything but it's your meeting until till 7 o' and you bang the wood 6:30 6 well whenever the you know whenever it's time to start it's your meeting the question becomes if we're going to tackle consent orders if we're going to tackle
abbreviated reading of the warant which I don't think is a big deal do we want to introduce electronic voting at the same time do we want to try and do this all at once um I qu I don't question I mean this is a pretty bright town I think everybody can fairly well sort it out
but it's the confusion of the moment that can sometimes create it are we trying to are we asking too much of the town meeting to get it all in and I only throw that out to be thought of I'll make one quick comment and has to do with kind of where we are Financial at this point the board last meeting said
we were in favor of continuing with the AV that we had last time which every body I think thought was fantastic that was great that group that came in but the cost of that and you compare that with the cost of what electronic voting would be I think we have based on the
short quick look at the numbers going ahead I think we'd have to pick one or the other I agree and I think we'd be better spent for the AV part to give people more you know what's going on in the meeting well I mean second and the what
do you think I agree okay yeah well and you know a couple things I mean the conversation I had with Doug today that came up and it's the question of the actual cost of the meeting um and then again how much new stuff do we introduce in the first town meeting that's one thought then the cost of the AV and the
electronic voting and so on I think I mentioned to you last time I I do know a guy from South Hadley who said he's a sound guy that's he actually rebuilds U musical equipment and he actually said in South Hadley they use a professional group too um you know I'm not advocating
running around to get 20 bids for something that cost $88,000 we have a best practice so you start there and I thought these folks whoever they were did did a pretty darn good job and I think it was better that there was so much less confusion in the communication
whether you folks had a microphone there was one wherever they were this worked way better than anything I've ever seen and this is going to be well but the second room part too even the second room and they took care of the streaming and they took care of streaming yeah so I mean all that stuff made a huge difference so if if you were asking my
opinion for it I would do the AV part first y um before I got worried electronic voting I think we've somewhat overcome the issue of the two-thirds vote because I'm simply just going to require if we call for a two-thirds vote and I can't we're just going to count I'm not going to go we're I'm not going
to put us through that again I have stand up and walk to one side of the room or the other no yeah let's do that that wouldn't be too obvious we've done that let's see wants to take sides on this one um I so I get the whole thing so we can definitely do it I think
there's support for doing it um so again consent orders I'd like to see us get them in this year but I think we need to have a meeting and probably if we all agree going and like if we meet next week or the week after then going forward we we're going to need to meet I mean I don't think we need to meet every week but I think we just need to make
sure we get on the same page about what we're going to do well this goes back and what I said before and it's you know kind of a thing we've got an aggressive we're not halfway through February we're closing the warrant technically at this point our next meeting Yeah March 1 which I thought was great heard no that's fine too but I mean and then
we're talking about okay we're closing the warrant we're fine tuneing the warrant we're going to get it out there I fear we can't do this every other week and C this is where you know maybe for the month of March we have to be a little more aggressive with our schedule and see or at least March Andor April
and see how that works out I think we're very amenable to the dates times we meet but I think we might have to be I think the the biggest thing is if if they if they have their conversation next week as Doug said they would bring up and Doug said he'd actually been to wilam
toown meeting and they used consent order um and you know I've like I said I have a ton of information that's come back so but but they've been using it for years and this is like the first time you put through that might be the one like whoa what are we doing here are you sneaking something through and
that's exactly what we going have to lay out in Fr my point is if we what do you mean the library gets money from the state is that true yeah every year yeah you know but the whole thing gets down to and I'll get out of your ha we'll get on with our evenings I think the big thing is they beet next week if they have a
feeling that they they feel that they can work with this then we get together we all agree and then we say look and again we don't need to meet every week I think they have their meetings they do their due diligence we all are pretty stud enough after all these years to figure out which ones we want to put on the consent order list it's not going to
be brain surgery how about the budget let's put the budget let's go with that but in any event I think their big thing that there you know the concerns would get down to well do we know how much we're going to transfer from stabilization well maybe that's not a consent order question but but if they
get a good handle on it now Doug's just saying but have we ever actually done that at the annual time me when was the last time we did that that's my point yeah they would but but to Doug's point because I don't want to mischaracterize any of our conversation I don't want him blindsided like he said some of the
information they have to make that decision they may not necessarily have to much closer to town meeting but if we get the word out and we add a question to the consent order that's not the end of the world either as long as because what I would like to do the last thing and I'll leave it with this um I definitely want to update um I'll do it
the update I'll need some help to update the moderator page to explain consent order what we're going to do and then I plan to take that turn it into a letter and send it to the times which hopefully will generate questions that they can go to the and get an understanding for for what this is going to look like we'll do everything we can to get it out I got to
tell you Don this goes back to and Rick you may recall back to the town newsletter yeah remember where we were put that out your day I think we started it back then with John we did you know yep and just every board put out something and we put it out there
maybe I I know everyone says the internet's great but not everybody has the internet theet I'm looking at you Eva thank you not everybody gets the internet and that was again and that was the whole reason we struggled with changing the location once we once we adjourn the meeting because who knows
there might have been 50 people in that room who don't get the internet they would have shown up at that room right and we would had a much bigger problem so yeah that's that's all there is to that than you guys have any questions for me no we're good yep get out next all right Wow have a cookie we always
get a cookie take a cookie and move on this is the literally this was the part where Dana would always go your say say we skipped nine guys have numbers unan unanimous consent Tron trolley what are we going to do
there so the grant So currently working on IMA with the two towns because the grant that's funding is going away our hit on the assessment would be based on the
uh the portion of the ride share just under 6,000 really it's actually pretty good uh considering that I think ju metal takes a eastl metal East a pretty good chunk of the overhead on their own budget so and they run the whole program
so right 6,000 is not bad and they actually don't get reimbursed for all of what they put in in their budget so what what do we put that under on the budget do any new line item now we could either make its own budget like gssi was
done or we could add it under senor I think uh I was just say should it be under Senior Center well senior Transportation take i' take a look at the lawn metal budget and see where they're putting theirs because again don't look at East Long Meadows look at La Meadows we'll do the opposite
yeah it is what of the states Chang in there yeah I mean I was a little worried and I was going to ask Mark about it but I got cut off by the chair before I get to my third page um um no same yes it goes over the bridge
it doesn't need to be fixed same thing with that you know I'm a little worried hate to say it what's going on what about that truck I mean wasn't that paid for by a FEMA grant that brush truck is there any danger that they claw back some of those
grants never know you never know though it's already been spent no cuz the truck's going in production isn't have to be spent I thought they sent the check right to they say they only have the chassis they haven't started building the rest of it I mean I'm wondering I thought they sent it off and then there's other things that have been
done and you know we're not paying that so know this is a concern do we have to vote on the Tron try thing or just put it in a v no there'll be an IMA coming okay all right select board members reports not at this point nothing
nothing count minist report new websites launched go check it out uh water meeting last week um there's about nine households represented out of the 20 something that are eligible to
connect water Commissioners will be getting next steps hopefully in a week or two um it Grant was submitted for thoron Burgess uh twb visit last had visits
with Staff last week um and they also had a visit with Valley Communication talk about access control and cameras and they're working up a a cost estimate for us that's sort of a base system and then it could be expandable in terms of
the cameras that we wanted to add they're also going to try to coordinate with uh dispatch to make sure that there's connectivity like there is here lots of other stuff that's it any further business to come before the
board um can we go back over some liary stuff on the website Brian can you get the zoom link for our meetings put onto our section yeah I think that's a good place to put it yeah right now it's post on the calendar event because we forgot CU we took it off the
other one yeah but we we had the zoom links on the other one and that might bring you a questions like should we even use zoom or just uh stream right to our YouTube page which could work as well too because it's reoccurring for everybody so I don't know I'm familiar with the
YouTube for watching the school one um obviously I think their YouTube channel is much better than the zoom Channel audio wise although they both could use some improvement oh one other thing cuz everybody wants to stay later um I said
I'm going to be meeting with a charter over at twb as part of the cable contract negotiation so they want to check out the space for the head end dead end headend the server room yeah the equipment equipment that they might need to install for us to broadcast live
there that's it motion to Second all in favor people appreciate