Evening. I'd like to call Good evening. I'd like to call the July 7th, 2025 meeting of the Hampton Select Board and Board of Health to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance for the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. This meeting is being held in the townhouse auditorium and broadcast over Zoom. is we are recording the meeting. Is there anyone else recording it? Kristen Rivers from the
Hampton Times. Welcome Kristen. So we have the first thing we have some minutes. Type our capable minutes. Staff staff 24th. Um I apologize Eric. I know these are
minutes you were at, but you don't have a copy in front of you. So, I sent them to him. You did? Do you have it? Yes, I do have a copy. Okay, great. Thank you. All right. So, our first meeting, we welcome you, Eric. You
so on pretty good recap of the meeting. I'll move approval of the June 24th, 2025 uh select board meeting. Second. All in favor?
I thank you. We had an executive session on the 30th uh discussing the highway union contract and pretty much just uh looking for a new position to provide the town administrator to go back to
negotiations. Move approval of the executive session minutes of June 30th, 2025 without uh really Derek. Okay, I'll second it. All in favor? Hi. Okay.
And I'd like to welcome the advisory committee. Thank you. How are you all? Great. Great. Thank you. Our one and only summer meeting. Yes. I won't be too sure. Just jinxed it.
You need to call to order anything or is this No, we're fine. We're here. We have a quorum. We're posted. Great. Eric, by the way. Okay. So, basically, uh, we have the year end, you know, Cliff has been working on it. We did get a preliminary.
Did they get copies or No, we did. Yes. Okay, great. So, we have preliminary expenditure recap for 2025. Obviously, there's still a little work to be done, transfers back and forth that will go through your committee as well. Um, we
did touch on perhaps the need for the reserve account transfer. We had uh I think Brad was preparing a request looking at the um work we did at the town meetings would need a bit of a thing here. Brian, were
you going to put that together or um Yes. Yep. There was this those two uh meeting uh all right invoices from um guessing Joe uh Joe Shak
okay for the April which is going to total anywhere I don't know 15 the total around just over 16,000 16,000 now at this point you haven't had any requests for Brian, Brian, did the AV get put into
the the select board expense line? Is that why that's over as much as it is? Yes. Yeah. And then in FY26, they requested the additional amount as a separate line and moving forward. Okay. Now, we do see other accounts that I
mean on the select board, obviously, we see quite a bit of money under temporary help. uh surprising because we had we've done some work for planning under that etc. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean you know it is under the same kind of
department if you wish to go back and forth that way. I think there's also bit of a overage that may have just been a uh uh you know put in the wrong folder type thing. What you got?
We saw for I'm just I'm wondering you got like 11,000 in tax title expense that was spent. What page is that John? First page one of Yeah. page one about twothirds of
the way down again. I'm not That's okay. I'm just Yeah, I'm no different. That may be something that uh Eva always has in there as a a backup. Okay. Okay. If you get it and if not, yeah, great. She can use it for the overage and
elected expense, which is probably the federal election back in. Yeah, she had she had mentioned that a couple months ago that that was going to be an issue. Okay. The extra election is Okay. Other than that, I think it goes
What about the law claims? Um Brian said he did a little research on that and that had to do with the a couple of uh personnel issues during the year.
Other than that technology on the next page, that should have been that should be moved to office equipment acquisition, right? The wrong on the wrong line, right? should have more than enough to okay
cover the expense quite a bit left in concom clerical yeah I think Bonnie only puts up for the time that she actually works not what's budgeted so I mean just like you've said before, I mean, you plan for worst case and if it doesn't happen, you know, that's
where free cash comes from. Uh, employee benefits would be my question. How do we make out on that? benefits is there's still one week to submit or yeah
there's still 80,000 but when I went back into the the account details we only but we've only paid 11 months for health insurance so that'll be another it should be another 50 something,000 out of account by 25 cuz we should be
making 12 payments that each year. Okay. Would there be enough to handle the u employee retirement number that was in the other account? Mhm. Okay. Can we pump it up?
No, the separation payment. Separation. No, the assessment. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. That separation or the what? Buy back. Buy back. Yeah. Pay time off. Buy back. Yeah. Okay. And then next year we increased that because we were aware that uh
Sergeant Cooney was retiring and that IBback was in there for next year in the 26. That's my recollection of it. Yeah, I think so. Right now we are aware that a number for Scott which I think we have a number from
Julie and Dick basically which is not in that budget at this point. It'll have to be figured out in the fall. Okay. I know it's kind of short notice for you all, but what areas of concern do you see in your quick glance right now in this?
So, I just I see um the Hampton Wilberham School District boiler repair and split units has nothing expended, but it has nothing allocated. Is that because it was a um not in the budget? No, I think if if
there's zero and zero, then it was done. I think it was separate article. Yeah, the allocated that allocated amount for some of the ones that are zero are it's just not correct. They need to be filled in
because obviously the money was allocated, right? Spent and I don't know. Why is there zero at the beginning? Right. Right. It just looks off obviously. Now, there also could have been that they weren't quite sure, you know, it was not to exceed or
something like that when the bid finally came in. Okay, this is the number you're going to owe. You know, we hope that we get well repaired for under $100,000. Oh gosh, it came in at 78, right? $800 on the truck. I That was great. Yeah. In terms of areas of concern, as I
look this over, frankly, I'm generally pleased with it. I mean, the couple of overages that are here, you know, we knew were coming. Um, and the others look like they're essentially ordinary variances that you see.
Um, of course, I mean, obviously, it's not the final accounting where we end up to the positive. It's something for free cash, but um, nothing jumps at me. I mean, snow and ice. Um, looks like the total snow and ice was
what was it? 225 p.m. Yeah, it was close. Sorry. Which, you know, given the kind of winter we had doesn't seem working out of line at all. So, the radio service agreement that we
had allocated $28,68. Is that going to be spent? I was noticing that before. That's a question I think for the for the chief. That was the agreement done for that tower that's over by commercial driver. Right. Right. Yeah. Why it hasn't been built yet? I don't
know. And that was a very specific number. I mean, that was a that was a contract number, right? Mr. for it's not mostly allocated right 62 I mean there are things like you look at the regional school district show zero
and we spent 8 million but none appropriated obviously that's not the case so so I do see 28,607 in police fire communications spent but then you have the operations that's allocated and there's nothing allocated
for that police fire communication so that could just be a swap out. Okay. Uh we were aware from prior conversations that it had been a a tough year for the fire department with call fire and they they were anticipating it
would be an overdraw. I don't think you never know stipen number sometimes that uh comes back the training thing. Well, there's so many brush fires this year. I think that Um, when when
a couple of questions, when do you think we'll have the final numbers? And secondly, um, when will there be the specific transfers that need to be voted?
So, the Treasury account would set the the last FY25 warrant to be to be signed next Monday. Um cuz they're doing one more vendor warrant for 25 payrolls for payroll for
25 is done. Um I'll follow up with Cliff again, but um it needs to be done soon. Very soon. I'm just Well, you know, we we haven't, you know, checked in terms of our
availabilities. I'm available next week, but uh yeah, I believe I am. I believe. Yes, I am. Yep. Yes. So, yeah. At least Brian prepares the the uh
request for reserve account transfers, etc. Whatever whatever requires a vote. Appreciate that. Let's see if I can convince Lauren to post another meeting for us.
Sure. So, this bill is against advisory clarify. We haven't spent any of that in years. So, I mean, well, we haven't had a fully funded. Don't remind me, please. Eric, do you have any questions for advisory? Is he back on?
I I'm back on. No, I do not. I'm just listening and taking it all in. Okay. Do either of you have anything you want? Hey, add anything. No. No. I do.
I'll leave it to your chair to ask. May I speak? Chief is here at the moment. Chief wants to answer that radio question. The chief, what was the question you had about the radio? The tower. The radio. So there is a let me find it.
Radio discrepancy on the radio communications. So you have a police So you have a police where is it? Right here it's on the the second the third page. Radio service. Okay. Yep. You have a radio service agreement
of allocated 28608 but then the expense looks like it hit police fire communications for 2860766. So it was off like 5% I believe it was. Wasn't it something? No, it's just that one. It's in the wrong bucket. In the wrong put in the wrong account.
That's right. Yeah, it's in the wrong bucket. You're good. Okay, that's it. Thank you. If only they were all that easy. Really? I'll I'll look I'll ask Cliff to I have things for you guys to ponder
while you sit by the pool this summer. I don't have a pool. We don't have a pool. Uh, right. Fire away. Well, just just to think about, we we're still negotiating the we still have the regional agreement coming up and one of the sticking points
of course on the regional agreement is whether the Wilberham Middle School becomes a regional it's considered a regional school which would mean that we would pay 20%. Our position has been that uh we're not responsible for pre-existing conditions. So that's
something to think about what you want to do there. Uh and also the region is going to come forward with I believe a million3 a million5 for bleachers and uh but they also want to come
forward with 700,000 for the ventilation system at the Wolverham Middle School. If the regional agreement passes, we'd be responsible for the region middle school thing. Yeah. But we're in the position of thinking maybe trying to get a carve out
for that $700,000. This needs to be done. And so that's where we are there. When you say a carve out, Don, what what do you mean by that? Well, in 2016 when they first proposed the uh the unification of schools, there
was a an article uh the Warren article that said that the Hampton would not be responsible for repair of the roof. They re get we'd pay our parking we'd pay our portional capital costs except for the road and the parking and the parking lot. Parking lot. Yeah. And it passed over him but didn't pass
here because of course we just need to close the school. Yeah. So that's where we are there. And they still have their question about the appropriate vehicle for spending the money to do the repair early, the $400,000. And our position is that that was a town
building. The school should not have had to pay that $400,000. should come out of the capital costs of the town of Warber now that the insurance company has reimbured 352,000 fine give that back to the town but give the money back to the school for EMD
which is where they had to spend it from secondly the school still hasn't finished I don't believe contract negotiations so that could potentially impact the assessment the other thing is I'm wondering about yes I wonder he's thinking what you think about this summer
two in the morning think This was actually this was 4:30. I was doing my uh ironing. Nobody irons anything anymore. Um the fire station we the town voted
$8.3 million, but we don't necessarily have to spend that, do we? I mean, if if there's a if if there could be an a less expensive way to do it, right? We could. Yes. you know, you know, let's say for
instance they they decided to do a modular thing for the fire truck modular thing for the fire truck. I say building instead of if you look if you look a lot of towns have gone to modular when they improve
their fire station they use modular buildings and it's less expensive. you just do the site work, they plop the building. And I guess one of the questions I would have is how was the contract written for the um the people that were um
used for the development of this? I don't know. That's that that would be I know. But I I would be would it be I want to say bad thing to say bait and switch, but you presented a thing. this is the way you voted on then come back and say you voted this car but I bought
a different car. Yeah, I think we saved you $2 million. I understand but it also wasn't but if it serves the same purpose. Yeah, I don't know that that's so something to think about. My question was I I didn't know what the process was on that. I mean I think the first thing would be
a question arose how what are the what are the boundaries of the authorization? Yeah. And do we and I I'm not sure what the answer. I don't either. I mean, how much how much can you change before it becomes a you know a material change and what was voted?
All right. All right. Think about and the last thing local op local option lodging tax. Yeah. So think about that. Don's got that second room in back. He's thinking about getting
Airbnb. Yeah. Okay. I mean, we have one business that rents out five different places, right? For lodging. For lodging. Yes. Okay. It's not a lot of money. It's not, you know, and and and it doesn't it doesn't
affect taxpayers in town because it's would be for people out of town staying overnight in a place. And then, you know, Wilberham has it. They're at 6%. So I'm also kicked around the local meal tax too. But we felt that the impact would
be too much on the people in town. Yeah. You know, it's just like burdening them. Yeah. But but the lodging is is is that other people the other people not us put it on them. The uh I have one question in response
to the the potential bleacher article from the schools. Um my initial reaction is it doesn't seem appropriate that that would be a special town meeting. I was going to say that too actually. I mean that's a that's a big one. That's an ordinary business item. I mean
that's not an urgent unexpected type of an issue. Um there there's no secret those have required attention for years. Um it just seems that it's more of an annual town meeting where you have larger
attendance. Mhm. We can look at that. So any those are the things and that's if even if Wilberham has a a fault on me, they may or may not. They don't. They may not, right? They don't they don't always correct. They keep their free cash. They don't No, they don't.
I know. I know. Yeah. We don't. We account for all of our free cash. Oh, okay. That's my thinking. So, I give you something to think about. Brian, thank you.
I'm done. Okay. So, should we plan on meeting next Monday? We should. We won't. We're not scheduled for next Monday. So, so we we'll get together.
You Brian will forward something to us. Yeah. I'll try to I'll I'll reach out to Cliff to make sure that he can get and the the the the date is July 15th that we have to have this vote right now. Typically those are sent from the select board to the advisory committee.
I think I would entertain a motion to authorize the town administrator on behalf of select board to prepare transfer requests to submit to advisory. So moved. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. Thank you.
All right. Great. That's all we can do tonight. Okay. Carry on. Thank you. Yes. All about the process. Okay. So, we're here back again for the
second time in a month or so to appoint a police sergeant. We have the chief here. Good evening. Good evening. Hey, how are you? Good. And you? Good, thanks. Hi to Eric who's on. This is one of those things where we rip
it off and put the new one in. Is that it? Mhm. Okay. First of all, I want to uh thank uh a shout out to uh Sergeant Michael Cooney. Uh Saturday was his uh last day on the job, 35 34 years with the town of Hamen and this gentleman here is going
to be replacing his spot as our newest sergeant with the okay of you guys. So, shout out to Michael Cooney if I could. Um secondly, uh as as we know when we were here under a month ago, as you said, uh Mr. Chairman, uh we had the process. Uh we had four uh candidates.
All four of them passed. Uh Jason was uh one of the top uh u score scorers. Um he's been here 16 years with us. Uh he's been doing our detective work for the last uh four years. U he'll be definitely missed um in our detective
area. Uh he's had a great job there. Some tough shoes to fill. Um but Jason came to us back in June of 2005. Reserve officer, part-time dispatcher. Mhm. Uh and then moved up through uh did patrol uh and was uh selected to be our
uh our detective 2021 by myself and our sergeants. And uh as I said, uh Sergeant Bey now was top score. Um Jason Roth was right in behind him with a high score. Uh and then through his job performance,
education, and seniority, he got in a second slot to be appointed. Um, so I'd ask the board tonight to uh support uh our selection in Jason Ro becoming our next uh sergeant with the H police department. You sure you want the job? Yes, sir. I do. You sure?
Oh, yeah. I came to my home. Okay. Mr. Davenport, any questions? No, I have no questions for this witness, your honor. All right, Eric. Derek, I have no I have no questions. All right. Great. Well, upon the
recommendation of the chief and your exemplary performance on the exam, I'd like to offer you the job of sergeant for the Hammond Police Department. Thank you. You accept? Excellent. Congratulations. Vote of the board, please. Uh, so move that you appoint Jason Roth
as the sergeant. Second. All in favor? I thank you. If I can grab a picture, just another one. We'll have to photoshop you in, Eric. It's a picture time.
All right. Rip the detective off. Velcros. Velcro. Velcro. Velcro. There we go. Anybody else want to come in? Sure. We'll do this one first. We'll try to get all of us.
I got this one. Oh yeah, I'll cover that. Don and John each have one picture. Here sticky. One more short
book ending. One, two. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Here we go. There we go.
Okay, Jason, these yours? All right. Right along here over there. All right. You still leaving? You didn't get the flowers? Anything?
Nothing. No, I am. I I got part of me feels really sad here. I tell you, I've been here 31 years and uh town's been great to me and the residents and and everybody and uh but it's time. Uh just Oh, Mike made it 34. You
made it 34. Yeah, he he bought back the dump time. Transfer station time. I didn't have that. Well, that's true. I mean, he's a But he's a town boy, so he's a town boy, right? Right. So, so, so yeah, uh there comes a time of uh
July 17th will be my final uh final day as chief as a chief of police permanent chief. Yes. Okay. Last meeting. Last meeting. Last my last meeting here. Well, Brian, what do we have? Um at the
last meeting you had asked me to work with Scott to get a uh draft contract to present to the board for um an interim chief of police position. Mhm. And talked to Scott and I had uh we had
discussed the specifics of the agreement which um the board wanted to include in the contract and have discussions about. So that is the agreement that is in front of you. I did review it and it looks in
line with what we had discussed. So I don't have any reservations about if this is what the board wants to sign agreement. So it's month to month. It's month to month.
Month to month, right? Yes. fixing thing came up. All right. We're anticipating that obviously because of the shortness of the service, it's not going to impact your retirement at all. Nowhere near the number of hours that would
nowhere near it's actually uh the uh monies actually go to December and then the hours I won't even touch the hours. All right. I'm confused a bit about B1. Sorry. 3B1. So waving claim to paid time off package
which is I guess vacation. Correct. I don't have I don't get the holidays in my current contract as a uh police chief. I would get the holidays paid holiday. I would get the bereavement days and any type of so I'm I don't get any of that. Right. And there's no holiday till Labor
Day anyhow. So probably not Germaine, right? But I mean it would be basically on my I'm retired now coming back as an intern. basically on my own time really to if I have a briefment uh or I if there's a holiday that comes along and comes away I wouldn't be asking for be paid through the town.
You're not at Oh, you're number You're number one, right? You're on number one. Yeah. And it says you are paid holidays for the holidays. Well, July Well, okay. For the briefment. So, you shall be paid to leave. Okay. I see what you're saying with the non-unit department heads.
Well, yeah. So, again, if I'm going to be here, do you want me to come in on holiday or be paid time off as we just did with Friday, right? If I was scheduled to work, I'd be off, but I'm not getting the holiday. But you're not scheduled to work because it's 24 hours and there's no set schedule, per se. So it could be
yeah just so so it's as this is written he there would be paid holidays and bereavement leave. So the only holiday we're concerned about be is Labor Day, right? If if I'm past Labor Day. Yeah. But the holiday is typically you're paid
prorated on what your weekly schedule is. Say you work six hours a day. You get paid six hours for that holiday. Was hourly at this. He's an hourly employee at this point. It'd be basically based on as as would be Brian or a non-union. There's no no union employee. So I'm now I'm stepping
from out of union. I'm a department head still as I would be as Mark or as uh Yeah, but they're full-time employees. Well, I'm considered per se full time. I could be I could be it's not like I'm going to be held at the 24 hours. I'm going to be working 24 hours, but there could be times I'm coming in.
This could be and it's obviously we're talking hopefully wrapped up by Labor Day. Anyhow, so I was just going to say that I was going to worse it could be one holiday cuz not going to be Columbus Day. I I'll tell you right now it's not going to be Columbus Day. Okay. Okay. Right now.
So, one way or the other. And if you don't want and if you don't want it to be September 1st for Labor Day or Labor Day, then it doesn't have to be Labor Day either. All right. The other thing is so you're keeping your car insurance.
identification. um the do subscriptions, things like that. Would we be able to now are those annual Scott or I mean like Okay, so you step down and the new person comes on
it goes. But we paid for the whole year. Can that name be changed? Okay, great. It goes through. So it's the position on this or the name, right? Okay, good. Yep. So they're going to New Orleans, not you.
Yeah, it's uh correct. That's correct. Unless you want to keep me past October and we go to November, then I can make it. Yeah, but then they got the Columbus Day. Then we got the Columbus State on that. What's your wife going to say? Seriously. Yep. That would be an issue there. Now we got the crux of the matter right
there. All right. I don't see any issue with this. move approval of the interim employment contract with uh Chief Scott Trombley. Second. All in favor? I last chance.
Got to move forward, sir. Thank you. All right. Give me yours. What was that thing from? What's that thing from the movie? I thought I was out and they pulled me back in or something. Godfather, right hand.
We'll get from the side one. Thank you. Thank you. You want me to? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, while he's signing is next month away, please search update.
So, the board has So, they'll back up on I reached out to uh the call center uh Russ Stevens I think it was public safety consultants LLC and Hammerand Consultant and requested proposals to
assist the board and the town in the the police chief search. We received proposals back from uh public safety consultants and I have not heard back from the call center. Um I think it's something that they don't normally
engage in. I think they do more executive and administrative searches. So I mean the board has the two proposals in front of them. to consider. I can talk a little. I mean, the the uh
public safety consultants seems to have uh more experience with police chief purchases. um and local ones in in the list I believe he list I believe was listed eastampton, Northampton, Belchure Town. Mhm.
Uh bigger towns but in uh in Western Mass. The proposal provided by by Henryan listed uh some background but most of those just related to assessment centers for uh positions under a chief.
I think they were lieutenant in in sergeants. Um the proposal from from uh Russ Stevens was probably a little bit more than we need in terms of in terms of the scope of work. So if the board wanted to move
forward uh with that firm I I might recommend that we uh modify the the scope a little bit um and maybe that would provide some cost savings. The proposal provided from Henrian seemed to
be more uh streamlined sort of uh uh you know recruitment interviews narrowing it down to how many other candidates assessment center recommendations to the board um as opposed to the Russ Stevens which was more
develop and think about the position refine the job description the job posting put it out for 30 days. It was it was just a little bit more handholding and comprehensive. All right. I do I do feel bad that you only physically spoke to one of them
though. We're having a you know we don't get the benefit of our presentation from the other person. Yeah. So short on time. We can't schedule anything for next week is you're you're out next week. Um, that's what we could do is if we
actually wanted to get a a live presentation or at least Zoom presentation, we could do something at the end of this week. But I do think it's unfortunate we had one person here and it has a perception that they have a leg up and here's the other one just
handling Connecticut or whatever it must be. We're up there with Hampton from Titan B. Nobody knows who we are. It's a hand in hand proposal. Okay. What how what amount of work can you do?
So Scott and I were talking a little bit about this uh this afternoon where they're going to be helpful to us and we could put out the we can by the way you could you can up a job description the job description 21 years old so that needs to be updated and the job so we could job description
job posting but let's say we get 20 applicants I don't have the experience or expertise to tell you these are the top four that we should send to an assessment center I would I could guess and I would do it. Um, but I don't know that I have that
experience to do that. So, I think that's where they would be helpful. Obviously, they would need obviously they'll be helpful with the assessment center as well. That that's that's where we need help. I don't my my suspicion is that the the job itself is not going to cast the New England
wide net. I I guess what I'm asking you is that the one company, Stevens, they write the job description, they do the posting, they do everything, right? They interview the candidates,
they make a, you know, an initial cut and all that stuff. Yep. Handry hand, we collect all the resumes, give them to them, and they get it narrowed down to four or five people or whatever it is,
and they do this assessment center. Yep. So, they're scoring them for us basically. And I suspect you had convers you had a conversation with Russ. I suspect if we wanted to go with Stevens, we could modify the proposal to something along those lines as well.
The third third choice is to not do either company and assemble a team basically like kind of before a couple retired chiefs come up with our own plan and basically put the notice out there that we're bringing and applications
need to be in by this date and then work with retired chief retired chief yourself Brian etc. And that's a third choice and save the money if you will. Right. I I I would be an advocate of at least doing one portion of as as Brian had mentioned uh one portion of either
Russ's Mr. Stevens or Hannarans of of some type of expertise of them dealing most recently with with area chiefs that they've hired. Right? So we could get a hire we could get a retired chief uh as we saw we didn't get many retired chiefs that wanted to come out and be an intern or whatever. Right? So so
we don't have a lot of a pool out there to go for. Um Mr. Stevens' company and the other company are very active and are motivated to get most uh up to date chiefs out there that are available that
want to not chiefs but um candidates that are out there. They're postcertified or or whatever you have you would say using one of the companies is going to be our best bet. Right. I was talking about assembling our own board, not getting a retired chief to come in. I'm saying use them as
part of our own firm. Right. But I think we're we're again burning more time and more of time, right? So So I think ultimately as as we noted in the beginning, the signing of the contract. Um I don't want to be here too much longer than I have to be. Um don't get me
wrong, I I love our town and I love working for for the town, but we want the process that moves forward quickly, rather quickly. I think we've already burned some time we were waiting for. Unfortunately, we had had one candidate of the board. We had to reelect a new board. So, it was bad times at that time, but I think we need to get stuff
out there. We could go and then where are we going to do a search for, you know, especially the board meeting every other week. We're going to try to look for a retired search committee or or candidate here. I think we're best to have one of these companies be selected, present before the board two or three
candidates that are most qualified, mo best fit for our agency. Um, and we make a selection and the board makes a selection on who they want. to take take over. Is there a is there a bid process for these propos
that we have to do? Um we need to solicit these exempt I don't believe so. We need to solicit three proposals. So we have the Collins Center uh public safety consultants and hand consultants. So we could pick one of these now. Yes. Right. It's an effort to make three.
even call in since they didn't respond. They were efforted to provide a cooperate. Okay. In in Han's case, depending on the total amount would be if it's under $10,000, then it doesn't trip that requirement. But we wanted to solicit three just in
case we did spend more than 10,000. And in and the this PSC they're they're how much do they want? It's like 124 at the end there. Yeah.
But you think you can modify that. Right. Yes. What what would you what would how would you modify it? Um I think at what you had mentioned before, we put out the we do the job description, we put out the we go to
them with the resumes that we have and say narrow these down. Mhm. And then hold the assessments. From when my my discussion with Ross was if if the board and TA were to advertise, recruit, and then throw out the throw throw it out there and maybe
do an interview or maybe not do an interview, it's going to come down. So if we were looking for us to advertise and fill out for possible recruitment and then have him come in, it's going to continue to go down different steps. Maybe agre
and and the the job description hasn't been modified for 21 years. Correct. So we have a accreditation standard uh job description that's um was put into place under Chief Adams. Mhm. Uh and then um basically the job
description of itself follows guidance of of what's expected uh probably in the front of my contract best said of what the chief of police does say on my law and so it's vaguely in the accreditation standard from 2021 and hasn't really been added anything more since then. Uh
Chief Farnsworth had been chief for 18 years. Um so uh prior to Chief Farnsworth there was two intermittent there was Doug Melis and then um yeah it was Doug Melis was for the two Phil well it was Phil who actually was on an accreditation standard on that one
so that's why nothing had been changed with with that the job description you were hired under one that you were hired under was 2001 right maybe 2001 2001 basically through the interimm chief at that time who put out the so it was based off the two does the does post have any kind of
criteria So they the uh the IAP the IAP the International Chiefs of Police Association would have a boilerplate uh criteria we could get. Um which I'm asking because I want to see how quickly we can get it together. I don't want to spend this we can get this
three weeks. No no we can get this play one doesn't seem relevant to different size teams either. For the most part Massachusetts Chiefs fall under a certain job description. There's there's not it's not going to be any we're going to be it's not going to be two three weeks. It could be a couple days we have some together.
Eric, your thoughts? Yeah, it's a it's a good one. Um, so yeah, just looking over the three proposals, just trying to determine what whether was the best. Kind of on the same page as you guys. Um, but obviously this is something that I think, you know, each point we've got to kind of
move on. Could you do we save any money if if uh public safety consultant spells the name of the town right? Yep. Both in the front page and the proposal at the end. Yeah. No kidding.
And on each page. Yeah. The only spot it's right is their seal that they stole. True. That ought to be worth a couple thousand each. Each page you get 27 pages. That's true. And actually if they bill
us that way that's not our bill. There you go. Yeah. I don't know that it's the best use of our dollars to to I don't think it's the best use of our dollars to to cast an extremely wide net cuz I suspect no
the people who are going to fill the position are fairly local. Yep. But I could be wrong. Well, that was our question to him last week. Again, same thing. We're not anticipating that somebody's going to be honestly moving here for this job to put
it. You know, we saw that a bit for a couple of the other jobs we posted for somebody just throwing it out from NICK and not expecting them to be driving in every day. Um, but that also could be part of the job description. We talked about that before
as well that the certain radius i.e. I think we have one now plus the fire department has that one. The same thing as reasonable to have a radius requirement. So we fall under uh being a non- civil service community fall under as the crow flies over 15 milei radius right
farthest point to the closest point and keep that right. Yeah. Oh yeah. And and that's just that's great. The only thing we talked about is we could potentially have a a grace period of moving in or something like that you know if they were further out. shall establish residency within 6 months or something,
you know, reasonable if they were beyond that 15. Exactly. Yes. Right. Okay. All right. We killed this. So, I move that we instruct the town administrator to contact public safety consultants
regarding the search for the chief and negotiate a a u an agreement which uh we'll do the we'll do the initial you know search. We'll we'll we'll send
out the the notice the search and that stuff and they'll do the assessment part. Are they revising the job description as well with Brian? Are they working on that? Is that something who's doing the revision of the job description? I think we should do it internally. Okay. Internally per the job description is provided by
the town administrator and they correct the name or else. Or else Eric second. All in favor? I I thank you. All right. Now, what do we got? Anything
else? I'm all set unless you need me for anything. Good meeting today. Yes, I thought so. I thought it was really well. Yeah, that was I attended a meeting with our regional I don't Mr. Chairman spoke a couple times, but she'll he'll fill us in. We don't need
to hear from you anymore. Wow. Oh, drive carefully. Down the office. Please drive carefully. Okay. Thank you. Good response by the uh department by the way though with the accident out here over the holiday weekend and I have to say that uh
doesn't matter if it's a holiday if it's any day the department responds and takes care of everything. You guys did a great job. Thank you. They do a good job. Yes. Very very happy to Thank you. Howdy. Good evening.
Good evening. How are you? Fabulous. How are you? We got copies. We got We're in a much lighter revise a bit. Revised little lighter. A little lighter material. Thank you.
Slim down a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Nice. You were on the you were on the board with my dad at the office, right? I was. I thought so. Yeah. Enjoyed my time there with your dad. Did Yeah. Oh, how do you how do you misbehave with
a nun staring at you all the time? You don't. He was very good to the college, too. Yeah. You all were. Yeah. Exactly. Devoted board member for sure. So, we're here on a much lighter note. Mhm.
Um we're here to uh talk to you about um installing holiday lights here in the town of Hampton and certainly would like to get everybody's opinion on the matter, but um Paul Marcelino, who's our executive vice president, spent a fair amount of
time. We both live in town. We both been here for over 20 years. Uh we both raised our families. Yeah. 20 years. 2020 is 60. Now that's something. Okay. Right. Good. 60. She was she was born and raised in
Hampton. All right. See, so there's his weigh in right there. That's That's pretty good. There you go. Um Why isn't she here? We don't need to We don't need to talk to you. She sent me.
So the object here is our our thoughts which is certainly could be modified based upon some input from this board is um to locate uh some uh holiday lights on the street poles basically starting from Mountain View
all the way up to Bilton's and then also in addition to that started the Polish National Credit Union and come to uh in essence Ellen Street and then further up on Maine to go from um you know Main Street to uh where the uh nursing home
is a little bit and then um the the fourth area as you can see on the map is uh right from the center of town uh up to Thornton Burgess. Obviously Thornton Burgess is now going to have a new life here shortly hopefully and uh including
that into the town um festivities I think is important. So in addition to that in the center area where we typically have the flag pole and um we were thinking about you know putting additional holiday lighting in
addition to the lights that are on the street poles um starting off with you know very generic holiday uh you know type of uh holiday lights um certainly a Christmas tree um and then again generic that uh would
be possible light deer or uh maybe a welcome to Hamn kind of festive lights of some sort. Very generic, non-political, uh non-religious, uh just um welcoming. Welcoming. Exactly.
Lighting. How are these powered? I mean, they are powered by a little bit that work, but go ahead. So, so they're they're actually powered from the power on the poles. Um, Northrup uh, Contractors has done this for the spirit of Springfield for well over a decade.
Uh, and I had a conversation with them uh, last week and we need to get permission. We need to find out who owns a pole and I'm assuming it's National Grid here in town. It's split between the grid and the telephone company. Telephone. So, we we need to get
permission to, you know, to mount these on the pole. Uh there's a bracket and a strap that get installed once and then they stay up there for the duration. Um the electrical contractor puts in a 120 volt uh box. Mhm.
And with a pigtail and then the u national grid will take it from there and connect it to the power source. It's important that we install a photo cell so these aren't on 24/7. They come on at dusk and dawn. Um, relatively straightforward,
easy installation for any licensed electrical contractor. Uh, again, Northrup has done this for the longest time for for the Spirit of Springfield. Uh, Kevin Sako, who is also a resident of town of Hampton, has also volunteered
some of his time, you know, to help with this installation should we be able to proceed. Well, in the basement, I don't see a downside to it. And we're also talking No, not at all. When were you looking to start? I mean, is this something a beginning of December type thing or you looking right after Thanksgiving? Or
One of the things is, you know, we need to put on a couple of fundraisers. One of them would be actually the tree lining event uh that we're hoping to do potentially a weekday before Thanksgiving or the week before Thanksgiving and have it in, you know,
uh either the roundhouse or something like that where, you know, people can come. There'll be hot chocolate and donuts and maybe we can invite the children from the school uh gleague clubs to come and sing and and do a where and do where and do a where in essence the where the
greenhouse is. Okay. In the center of town, across from what what I think is the is the main tree lighting that we would have, right? Um, so we're thinking that we want to do it just before Thanksgiving. Okay.
But we don't have any dates yet, if you will. Um, we're hoping to uh talk to the Antacci family and potentially having a fundraiser at Greyhorse uh for residents to come to a you know a dinner at Greyhorse and you know 100% of
the revenue that we collect will go towards the tree lighting um you know pay for the installation which is really the largest uh cost. Uh the spirit of Springfield uh Paul Marcelina is a board member and has been for a while now. The Spirit of
Springfield is donating these Christmas uh holiday lights, if you will. Um we have to go through the reamping um and the installation, which is it's a cost, you know, but it's really more or less a one-time cost and afterwards you
have to, you know, take it down and store them and then put them back up the following year. So, are you looking to establish a committee maybe with some towns people or something like that and a little broad? willing to have any I mean you already got some people they don't we're trying to do this at no cost to
the town if you will so but we're willing to have people certainly v volunteer their time and energy uh on this endeavor but uh we think it's would be a nice addition to downtown Hampton Sure
so yes we we welcome uh some but we do need a authorization from the town to in essence utilize the land that they have at the you know where the flag poles are, right? Um that's about the only land that I think we have authority over would be the the
basically the jog out where the two poles are right now. Everywhere else is if you talk about doing something at the the round building obviously talk to the land owner about that etc. Right. No, I mean it crossed the street there. So maybe potentially having the DPW clear off some of the land. I don't
know how much land the town owns there, but you know, if we have the ability to put in a couple of Christmas trees and some deer and so on so forth, if there's extra land available, we'd like to, you know, somehow be able to utilize that extra land. I don't even know how much town like No, I think the only thing would be of
course go through the police department and their safety officer, make sure visibility is not affected by that, things like that. Right. Um I'd be surprised you can't talk to the I mean you have four corners there with great visibility whether you talk
to the Lacina people the Zujian corner which is pretty wide open on that corner right there and uh the other corner like you make this beautiful just like you're talking. Yeah. You really light up the town of H. Yeah. Yeah. And again this could be a a multi-phaseed
project. I mean year one could be you know light bulbs. Year two could be, you know, another component to it. So on and so forth. And it we can just continue to build on it. There we go. Right up to our 150th in 2028. Well, and bring it all the way down to
Burgess. Well, new soon to be the town hall. It could be the PCelli town hall. Just think about that. Why should I name it after me? It's It's open. I'm just saying. We back out.
the old lack of room. Yeah, right. So, I don't see a downside. I mean, we obviously want to flush it out a little more up. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So, again, we're just here trying to do something civic, you know, prior to for our our wonderful town.
I'm not surprised. Yeah. Knowing the people you are, I'm not surprised you're doing that. Really? And that's great. Mr. Sacko as well to volunteer his time. Yeah. So, so you're going to need basically, my understanding, authority to use that corner
authority to do you need the town's permission to go on the pole and attach? Is there anything for that? Uh, no. Well, I mean, you're you're tapping into the 120 line basically, right? Uh, I I guess part of me says yes
because town administration needs to needs to grant the authority and the permission to us to to do this. Uh, you know, if we receive that, then after that it's the utilities that need to bless it. Um, and also the installation process.
What worked in Springfield may not work here in Hampton. I can't see why not, but it is a different utility company. They may have different guidelines. Ran, do you want to be the point person on this or is this something? It's not huge, but I could see this could be a member of the select board as well being the interface as well. And
Don, you've had that conversation already. Is this one something you want to like work with them under the perview of the board rather than taking putting another thing on Brian's play, especially with the move to TWWB, I want to say consuming some of your life, but it might keep you up at night.
Yeah. I don't I don't know that there's a huge role for the town here. I think right obviously permission for the corner and then yeah, obviously I think you're right. It's a public rightway. So I think that the permission of the town to use the public right away I think asking for that would be appropriate.
Other than that we can put you in contact with our uh we have national grid government you know a liaison. Sure. And also for Verizon those are jointly most of those are probably almost all those are probably jointly owned between national grid and Verizon. I don't know
what their agreement says in terms of granting permission to third parties. I know that was a complete poll survey done by the fiber optic committee. Oh, they might have a good description of which are which. Yeah. Yeah. They had to do every poll. They had to check everything on which
conditions were. How many double polls got out there? Yeah. Eric, you might have access to that as well. So, I can reach out to National Grid if that would be helpful. Are they coming in? Are they coming in in two weeks, Lauren, or not? It'll be planning on it. I didn't reach out to them yet. Okay, great. I think we
can go forward with it. Yeah. And then the only the only other component we need we would we would need to consider is um and it's it's probably minor because it's a short window just the upcharge of the utility the actual usage of the electricity from from the from the uh utility company because it's
not budgeted right now. Right. Right. I thought that was part of the fundraiser you were talking about or No, I think the fundraiser was the installation. Oh, okay. But I, you know, there's obviously a cost for the electricity, right, which has got to be pretty nominal. These are all brand new LED
lights that we're installing. So the especially with the sensors to turn them off, but again, it's it's right now there's no lights. There's going to be lights hopefully. So there is usage and you know, I don't know what that I can't quantify what that is, but I know it's minor. Okay.
We could attempt to try to get what that cost is. That'd be great for the utilities, but but I think we're talking about fairly you were here, I don't know if you're here earlier, we met with the advisory committee to talk about shortfalls in this year's budget. So, you know, the the goal is to have zero impact to
the town on this and uh from a financial or fiscal responsibility, but 100% enjoyment. Exactly. Well, you both get tax bills from the town, so I know you don't want them to be anymore. So, great. Okay. Good. Thank you for your time. Appreciate it.
Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. What's the next step? I would appreciate a contact uh for the National Grid and and uh telephone and then I'll make some phone calls. Great. And you were signing a you know contact person for the town, right?
Whomever that person is. Okay. We'll take a vote and see who volunteers. Okay. The the short stars of it who's not here today. Let's see. Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Take care. Thank you, Mr. J.
Thanks for coming in again. Thank you. Marcelina. Oh, uh, Rainey. R E I N E Y. Yes. Okay. Yep. Yep. Father was Kenneth. Yep. Can't remember Ken. He was on some board. I'm going to say board of appeals or something. I swear I served with him one time. He spent a lot of time uh he was a
probation officer. So, you know, the Massachusett court system. So, great. Great. Thank you. Okay. Okay. So, we have the remainder of the appointment slip. Lord, this one much.
Yeah, it is much better than the stack you brought last time. All right. So we have request to appoint the election officers, the two renewals for the council on aging
and four people for the zoning board of appeals. So moved. Second. All in favor? I I. And we'll tell them we'll tell them who they are later. Okay.
Maybe they don't know. Yeah. Well, they don't they don't know. They don't know it won't hurt them. That's right. Okay. What else you got? Back to where we were, sir. Can't find it. Liquor.
Liquor permits for the senior center. So, we have a request for July 17th from 6:00 to 8, wine only in the great room, the Scanic River Artisans class. I wonder if those further
happy little trees. Sorry. Yeah. And then August 8th, 28th from 6:00 to 8, wine only in the grape room, Scanic River Artisans class. The other trees, what days are those? Thursday and Thursday
6:00 to 8 at the senior center. Okay. Um I move approval of liquor permits for for uh July 17th and August 28th for Scantic Valley Scantic River Artisans at the senior center.
All in favor? I Okay. Okay. Can't find pile here. Oh, yes. So, the uh I think Lauren actually brought it up that uh since we are meeting every other week, sometimes it's difficult with
vacation schedules to um make sure a majority of the board is down here to sign the warrant on Monday. And I think a motion would be appropriate that either a minimum of one signature or if
this signature is on there is considered signed without possibly getting the second one out. What was what was the second part of that? Basically, say you're away, Eric's away, and Monday comes, the warrant's here to be signed,
and I'm the only person around, right? that signature of account as signing the warrant. I'm happy to do it because I have no life and I don't go anywhere. So, I'm always round on Monday. I was thinking the same thing. Thank you, Don. Have to put it out loud.
Say the quiet part. So I would entertain a motion to authorize a sole signature for the warrant on weeks that the board is not posted for myself. So moved.
Second. All in favor? I thank you. All right. Unless you have something for me to do on that Monday. I mean go somewhere. Maybe call us. I don't know. It's fine. Thanks, Don. People want to get paid. That's unbelievable.
Okay. Okay. Member reports. I do I Eric Eric have Eric. Yes. Any reports? Select member reports.
Uh nothing to report on my end. Okay. Don, I have a report regarding double polls. Uh back in June, well back in December, the National Grid uh
said that we had 80 double polls and after working with National Grid and with the help of Senator Alivera's office, uh they've removed 45 of those polls. We're down to 35 polls. Um and that can and they have six polls
that are ready to be removed. those are going to be down to 29. So we still have 16 locations where Charter has to uh needs to transfer, two locations for M MBI who are fiber and then three for town owned fiber
transfers and nine for Verizon left to do. We also filed in June 11th, we filed uh there was a legislative hearing on on double polls and we filed we filed a uh testimony and I provided
pictures of the double polls in our town but we had still left and the uh so they claim we only have 30 we only have 35 polls left but I suspect that there's more but we're working with them.
They've also agreed to uh provide the town with a new list of uh polls and also to provide a separate list for the town of Hampton of their progress on removing the poles and that they would contact their joint pole owner Verizon
and ask them to move along and move their wires. So the bulk of the work they've done, we both saw it, has been the Allen Street quarter, but not the side streets. Not the side streets. Right. So they got they got six left on Allen Street. Not that I'm counting, but they have six left and they said there's they're
slated for removal. Mhm. Yeah. They went up. So I would suggest that we with our charter, we're we're negotiating the cable contract with them that we remind them that they have 16 whole wires on poles that they need to
remove. And not just that. I mean, have a call with them tomorrow. What? I have a call with them tomorrow. Good. Bring that up. It's not just that. I mean the people at the influence I mean the people own the polls the grid is coming in looking for something from us in a couple of weeks right right
you want something from us right it's a bit of a give and take here that's where we are at the double pole progress is being made sure slowly that's my report it's a good report thank you when's the next school committee meeting June uh June July 9th
July 9th interesting they'll be at the reorganization meeting. Okay. All right. Nothing to report. Brian, I got a couple things. As of July 1st, 2025, you are now the
proud owner of a used middle school. My first thing used Yep. Used middle school. Um, we have job advertisements out uh for a facilities manager for a part-time town account and a full-time principal assessor.
Uh, the MVP project has wrapped up and reimbursements have been submitted to the state. I have a call with charter representatives regarding the their proposed network
upgrades, townwide network upgrades. I'm going to get an update from them uh tomorrow and I will I will remind them that they have work to do on 16 double holes. And I have the first uh kickoff meeting
with the regional energy manager uh tomorrow as well and hopefully I can get them to jump on uh looking at TWWB. Speaking of regional energy, so I've mentioned before we have that power purchase agreement that we signed up
with was Sincar many years ago, but I've asked to have maybe have them come in. I think our only contact has been unfortunate Cliff as he does the reconciliation with them. I think we should have them in to see a does it
need to be renewed? Is it auto renewed? Are we getting the best deal? And maybe that's something the energy group can tell us as well. It has been an advantage because we certainly haven't seen the with the rise in energy prices, the street light has not gone up
matching that at all. So, we've had a a savings on that. But when we look at the fact that we're going into Thornton Burgess, which will probably double our utility amount, just like it did for our insurance, um, it'd be good enough. That's still a good value.
Maybe they'll tell us we can put solar on the roof. Who's to say? So now, who's guarding the Are you staying over on a nightly basis at the school and guarding it? Yep. There's a couple dogs in there and hyenas.
Other surprises if people get in. Yeah. Bear. We got bears in there. Some bears. Yeah, that's where the bears are. Okay, great. So, we need somebody who's got a big experience in facilities management and upgrade. I just can't think of someone like that. Can you
I guess not. All right. Anything else to come before the board? Motion to adjourn. Second. All in favor? I I have a good vacation, Eric. Thank you, Brian. You have a good vacation if I don't talk to you in the meantime next week.
Thank you. Try. Thank you. Good.