Good evening and welcome to the October 20th, 2025 meeting of the Hamlin Select Board and Board of Health. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We're meeting in the townhouse auditorium. We are recording this meeting as well. Broadcasting on Zoom. Is there anyone else recording the meeting? Kristen Rivers from the Wolver
Hamlin Times. Hello Kristen. All right. So, first on the agenda, we have minutes of October 2nd. tooth was the interview basically we started at 5:00 that day special meeting when we
interviewed the uh candidates for the select the new police chief position sergeant spelled wrong I'll let her Oh yeah, I actually commend you on the minutes.
Um, good summary on the minutes. You could have gone 17 pages, but I think it did a good job of just summarizing what happened. >> Discussion with Lauren and Brian. Ah, >> there was an executive decision that I liked. >> Okay. You wanted to save a tree and not
print out the full thing. Thank you. >> Motion to approve October 2nd finish select board. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Thank you. >> All right. Second thing on our agenda is a meeting with the August. Is that correct?
>> I think so. Yeah. The August Parks and Recck Committee Board. Um Oh, yeah. >> You guys have a quorum? No. Excellent. No quum. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, you'll need to come to >> You're not coming to order, but you're in order already. >> Correct. >> Hi, my
>> go introduce yourself. Yeah. >> Hi, my name is Terry Ford. I'm the um chair right now of the park and committee. I guess I'm also been on and on for a good part of the last years or so.
Um like my left, he is the junior member on park and rec board. >> Hi, >> congratulations. >> Oh, thank you. >> We're um here to request or to um pitch our need for a um a truck replacement.
We were given a truck by the um highway department with 2000 Ford F250 which is done for. Um, we sent it out to Corby for a quote.
He gave a number of $7,600. He said, um, he would, in essence, need to >> tear the thing apart and rebuild it. um engine coolant leaks uh needs new
transfer case linkage parts, oil pan replacement, transmission lines are are need to be totally replaced. The bed needs to be replaced. He also added that the very bottom he says in my professional opinion this truck is not
worth repairing. Um, so what we're looking to try to do is um obtain funding of at least $20,000 on the fall meeting towards purchasing a used truck. Um, we don't need a new truck. Um, the
mileage is it's not going to have a lot of miles put on it because it's mainly going to be used in town. Um, some of the things that we we typically need the truck for is transferring um the mowers or the or the
tractor from TWWB, excuse me, from Memorial Park to TWWB. Um, now that we're tasked with maintaining TWWB, we figure that we're going to need to trailer that quite a bit. Um, the the parks that memorial need to be
maintained and cut at least twice a week. the the park at TWWB at least once a week um to to be playable. We also need a vehicle for um potentially running errands, going to Home Depot, um picking up mulch um and
in a in a flatbed would be required for that. Um there's also hauling materials, hauling trash, debris. Um it helps us support events. We had a um concert at TWWB. It helps with say stage setup with
moving chairs and things of that nature. So there's there's quite a bit that it can be used for without a vehicle. Um the only alternative is to have somebody use their own vehicle. And if it's if it's the maintenance person who's doing
that, there becomes all sorts of insurance issues. um if he's using his own vehicle in the scope of employment and he's going to avoid his own policy unless he seeks um alternative coverage. So we feel it's it's kind of a necessary
item um in order to be able to assist with parks and wreck both maintaining the field at memorial and maintaining the um people at DWB. Um and and we're not again we're not looking for a new vehicle. I don't think
we need a new vehicle there. It's not going to be a lot of mileage put on it. Um, you know, no long trips or anything else like that. So, we're we're going to be looking at trying to take bids for um something in the in the area like an
F-150 in that ballpark, whether it's a Ford or a Chevy or a Toyota. Um, >> doesn't even have to have power windows. >> Power a serious radio. >> No, doesn't need that. doesn't need any bells and whistles. As long as it has a working flatbed and a working
transmission and a motor, um it will more it will fulfill our needs and taking care of what we need to be taken care of. >> Sure. >> Um thank you. It's a great explanation. Just a little bit on the process first. Again, the select board has always been
flexible with town departments in terms of warrant articles. You being elected board, the deference has always been shown that you bring forth warrant articles and you get them on the warrant. It's up to you to defend them both to
the advisory and to the voters. We've had some questions about the need for this, but that's our questions. You're the elected representatives. You're lobbying for your department as you should. We look over the big picture as you
being the voter want us to do. That's our job. A couple of points that come to my mind is I thought we got that new mower so you wouldn't have to tractor back and forth.
That's what was presented to us that okay, now we'll have one at each location and now we don't have to bring them back and forth. That that's my recollection. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps you saw the job at Thornton Burgers was so big that on
occasion you need to bring both there to get it done. And that could just be an evolution of the process. My other question would be, can you really get a decent truck for $20,000
that's not going to be down the road two years just more of the same? I mean, the prices are so crazy now to get something with fairly low miles like you need. Are you going to be able to get something like that? Just my
question. But again, this can be to you your presentation both next week at the advisory hearing and again at the town meeting the week after. So, we appreciate you coming to us. The advisory is actually going to be
here later to talk about the financial situation. And then of course you'll be making the same presentation 7 o'clock same back channel next uh Monday night. Um Eric Don >> I I have the same question. Are you
going to get what you need for 20,000 bucks? I >> I I think have the ability of supplementing some of that out of revolving um that our revolving account. I mean a bunch of it is is going to be earmarked towards replacement of repair
of the bleachers um is something on on the list. But um I think we do have the ability of supplementing it. So if there is a vehicle out there that we think fulfills our need and may be over that then then we have the ability of kicking in a bit. >> Does 53D allow you to do that though or
is it just for programming? The the revolving account, is it just for programming or does it allow you to do capital which a truck would be? >> Is there the revolving account? We've we've had >> that's a special revolving account, the
53D that doesn't need to be voted every year, but it was voted probably, you know, my wife was chair at the time of parks. >> Yeah. But >> voted very specifically what it can be. doesn't mean does allow trucks are a capital thing. The the
>> I don't know, >> you know what I mean? The the be like fixing the bleachers that goes for the recreational, the kids, etc. >> Supplements the program supplements the program, but the truck >> I would argue that we use the truck for the programs. We're hauling equipment goals with that. We move the scoreboards for the baseball stadium for the
baseball. So, we are using it directly to affect the programs. But I can see what you're saying. >> Yeah. I don't I don't I'm just reading the law. I don't know what the law you know. >> I mean, you know, the programs are a pretty big umbrella, right?
>> And you have gifts, too, don't you? But it doesn't the park can Can they accept gifts? We probably don't have any money in that account. >> Uh we have a small gift account. >> Yeah. >> 1,500 bucks probably, right? >> That's um I was going to add what Mr. Flynn
said about um the two mowers. We only have one tractor though. Um we have one Kabota tractor and that's would be needed at both locations for trailering. >> Just recently speaking with our head of >> I thought you had two mowers.
>> We have two mowers but one actual tractor. We have to have >> two pull stand behind mowers. um you know the big ones that >> right >> cover the wide field and we have one tractor. >> So how were you mowing the park last
year? >> The the the tractor is used for hauling equipment, dirt, things of that nature, >> right? But how were you mowing the park last year >> with a standby mower? >> Walk just a walk behind mower only >> I believe so. >> No, it's an X mark ride on mower.
>> It is a riding mower. >> So you have two riding mowers now. >> Y >> two riding mowers. So that was my point that I thought when last year this was to not have to trailer the riding mower over to the school and back.
>> Don, am I am I wrong? >> That is correct. That is correct. Yeah. Mostly, >> but maybe it just got so big. Golly, we need both people mowing at the same time. >> They do. It takes a while. There's a lot of leaves that they're using both baggers for the pickup. So to have both of them over there doing the leaves to suck up the leaves for the bagging of
the the back lawn, it's quite substantial. So just recently Steve was like, "Yeah, I got I'm going to tow I'm going to have both mowers over there." And he's going to have both mowers doing Memorial Park as well. >> And I just have one question just about an initial. So, and forgive me because
I'm a little newer, but I I believe Dan, you were you approached with a with a Corb quote originally. >> I'm going to go back maybe a month and a half ago. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm assuming it's gone back since because I believe that quote was like 4,000. Yes. That was like something about taking some bed, you know, doing some bed
remediation and then the oil pan. I'm assuming since then you I think you indicated there was a coolant other things just kind of piling on. I just to paint the picture a little bit. >> Yeah. And we wanted to present an accurate figure because >> I I said, "Hey, you got to go through this thing and really tell us what's
really wrong with it because, you know, we don't want to open this thing up 4,000 you guys or we decided to fix it and he gets in there and we found $2,000 more or whatever." So I said, you know, basically worst case scenario, >> right? So Didn't Is that truck a diesel? >> No. >> Did Didn't the truck just literally
break down a parking rack after >> Yeah. >> driving from Cor? >> Yeah. It's just sitting there. >> They came through it. >> I mean, you need it. I just don't know if 40,000 is enough. >> Yeah. That's just the concern this day
and age with everything everything's so expensive. I mean, 20,000 are you going to be >> Well, can we ask for 30,000 >> right now? We're right now we're taking things off the warrant because of the financial situation. You watched our meeting last week. >> I think you saw the advisory of the town
treasurer and town accountant give us a pretty blunt assessment >> of the spending for the coming year. >> I think that's why we only ask for the 20. We're being mindful of that consideration, but we have we have a need that we need to fill. >> So that's why we're trying to meet totally I totally understand. Then the
truck that we got was those are those are hard miles because it was all it was used just for plowing. >> Yeah. Highway highway department miles. >> I mean our our the job that we have >> be anywhere near the the drain on and
just for also for clarification sick you you kept mentioning flat debt. I'm assuming you just mean pickup debt. >> Yeah. Okay. Because a flat bed to me is a flatbed, no walls, you know, a completely different and I was thinking that's way out of the price range for 20,000. But for clarification, you wanted a bed. >> Just a bed.
>> A couple things that surprised us. You mentioned the mulch. And I bought mulch. You bought mulch. And I've never bought mulch that the guy didn't deliver >> for me. So >> you pay for that. >> Okay. We don't have a truck. Yeah. Give me a couple extra bucks for that. But >> it depends on how much we need. Every
once in a while it's just a >> fill in >> small amount to fill in areas or other times it it's almost a total replacement. >> I don't know where the Rockies and get seven bags. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, like I say, good luck next week unless we have any more questions and uh I assume next week you'll have a PowerPoint. Dan,
>> uh I don't know. Maybe we'll see. >> Maybe a picture of the truck might help make a case. >> I don't know if there's, you know, many visuals that we need for this. I can show you the quote um and Corby's opinion that it's unrepable and just tell you, you know, what our needs are.
>> Field trip, everyone goes down to the park, looks at the back. >> You know, it's not >> We did that last week for the bleachers. So, you know, >> it's not just a maintenance vehicle. It's really a department vehicle. You know, I would take that. We go to um South Hadley quite a bit for Pioneer
Valley Parks and Recck Association meetings. Uh we have lead coordinating meetings that are offsite in Beluretown. So, it's not just for, you know, it's to stop all the miles. I put so many miles on my truck just driving around when really it should be on the department
vehicle. >> Well, that's a bigger question. I think if we were getting into more town department vehicles, we have other departments that probably have a a much larger need for a full-time vehicle. But your points will take it. I think you
know some of the people in this one's in the office next to you. >> Yeah, he doesn't want one apparently. So, I don't know. >> Not what I heard, but okay. >> It's something that we're houseing. >> But again, same thing. We appreciate you coming in bringing us up to speed out
there. You brought us told us things we weren't aware of. We appreciate that. And good chance you'll see us next Monday night >> and the following Monday night. >> Okay. You'll have a good seat down front. >> I'll be somewhere in the back.
>> Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Have a good night >> before you go. >> Good. Thanks. >> Was good. Our phone was good. Thank you.
All right. Next on the agenda, sorry, is the assigning the motions for the special hotel meeting. Brian, same list. Nothing new. You didn't sneak anything on it posted. So, >> no sneaking. Okay.
All right. So, >> you going to make the new guy do them all or what? >> That's a great point. You have that soft melodious voice. I don't I have to respect your elders. You know, you have to >> And isn't everybody kids? That's the
problem. When do we start getting these new guys, Don? What's up with that, you know? >> All right. Speak loud for us, please. Huh? >> Huh? I can't. My voice is too deep. Nobody can hear me. >> All right. >> All right. Since we only have the obviously the ones at the end are always the advisory. Eric, I'm going to give
you. Is there anyone on here you'd love to speak? >> Jumps out. >> Um, nothing that jumps out. You can They're all They're all perfect. All right. So,
All right. I'll take one. Uh, Eric, take two. Don three. >> Hold it. >> Oh, you want two? >> I got to put Don on here. D O N D >> M
No, I'm sorry. Oh boy. Now, four is difficult because it's counting retirement, but it's count on aging. Is it you or is it me? Do we both get up? >> I'll do it. >> No. All right, fine. You do it. All right. >> Oh, we're going to save time.
>> Yeah. >> All right. You do four. >> You're going to do >> I'll do five. Right. >> Um I think Gary will probably do six. >> Gary >> Wner, chair of the building committee. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Uh
Eric, you want to do seven? >> Sure. >> Okay. >> Eight. That should be you, Don. Then but you're going to explain and then >> seven is wait that's sort of the li that's the library thing right? >> Uh no it's the whole HVAC
>> I mean it's office as well as library >> couple offices. >> Yeah. >> That's the 300,000. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Plus or minus. >> Yeah. It'll be million. >> Yeah. 2 million. >> Who's doing that? >> So that'll be Eric. Eric
>> eight, which we have a plan for, but you want to explain it as part of the motion, right? >> Yeah. Right. Right. That's the uh >> Okay. >> Yeah. Suppose we could have Dan do nine. Throw him in the fire. He lives down the chief, >> but he's not official. >> You won't be chief. >> Might not be,
>> which might we can talk about that later. >> All right. You want to do nine? I'll do 10. >> Sure. >> All right. So >> unfortunately so >> so Greg is going to do now >> Derek. It's Derek. Derek Derek Derek 10.
>> All right. You going to do 10? >> You're going to do 10? >> I'll do 10. But I mean 8 n all getting up and saying this is a great meeting but >> no action. >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh then um >> so someone from >> those are Doug Doug usually. Yeah. For
>> 11's going to be somebody from parks, right? >> Oh yeah. >> Okay. >> And then 12 and 13 will be >> Doug and Wayne I guess probably >> everyone see you know say when people
say we need a roundabout in town we're going to say we're going to have one. She got a big put a traffic light. >> I'm making one. >> There's a certain rule to use like a status. All right. Never mind. You want
14, Don, of course, right? >> Yeah, I'll go 14. >> Okay. >> This is This is not the number 15 is not a typical advisory motion. This is going to need a lot.
It almost I hate to say it's almost like Dick or Doug, but we're going to be getting a lot of people up to explain it anyhow. So, I can start with 15. >> Okay. >> And then the other three are the boilerplate uh
>> advisory ones, right? >> 16 17 18. >> Yeah. they get up and >> we won't even have those numbers till probably even the night of the >> Yeah. meeting. Yeah. >> Speaking of which, just quickly, uh
Brian did mention that the assessors are ready earlier than normal for their classification hearing. So, >> how how can that be? >> Basically, it's just the four motions, which I don't think we've done them any different in the past. >> Yeah. But they won't have a rate, right?
No, but they need the motions to actually help with the rate. >> Well, we don't >> we don't vote on the rate anyhow. Yeah. >> So, >> well, we're on a town meeting. >> Uh,
will our new police chief be sworn sworn in by them? >> Possibly. >> I mean, we should introduce him at the town meeting. We should introduce him at the meeting. And then I think the wasn't Did we get
an email about they want to give some type of citation to >> eat a beer? >> Um I didn't see Yeah, that's what they wanted to chat about briefly. A presentation before, >> right? Save they save someone's life there. >> Yeah. >> So
moderation though about that. >> What was that? >> Uh was there a couple months ago, right? >> I don't think I saw the email. >> I don't think so. Okay. Well, they want to have something at before. >> Yeah. The same you did before they did it, >> right? We got time.
>> And we should introduce the new uh >> hopefully. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. We got the AV crew signed up for that. So, that's good. All right. So, how many food permits you got, Don?
>> I have uh I have food permit. >> Excellent. >> I have one food permit. Can you speak of the quality of it? >> No, I can't. So, we have to get samples. But it's for the big riffs
uh from Chickab and they have steak and cheese, hamburgers, hot dogs, tenders, wings, French fries, onion rings, cold sealed beverages, Gatorade, soda, and water. >> One-stop shopping. Um
>> the big truck. big truck. Do we have any other food permits for this event or Well, good thing they're there then. >> Great. Bring yours back. Um >> Yeah. >> Well, no. What's number I'll put it back.
>> Um so great. Needs to be something for us, Tom. >> Yes. And he's got his safe serves safe certificates and all his uh allergen awareness training. >> Okay. >> All the proper documentation. short on time. So, this is pretty much it. So, no
Fendino or any of those. >> That's all she got. >> I'm surprised. Um I wish there was a way that somebody brought something in this week. We could almost authorize chair of the board of health to sign on.
>> What do you think? I'd like to have more. >> Yeah. Make a motion. All right. First off, I'll make a motion to uh sign the food permit for big riff >> big riffs. >> Big riffs for the public safety night. Second. >> All in favor? >> I Okay. I'd
>> like to make a motion for the purpose of the public safety night in light of the short uh notice for the fact that it's a event that really highlights what we do in town. Make a motion to authorize the chair of the board of health to sign um
any food permits that he feels are in proper order for the public safety night. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I Okay. All right. Okay. We are cranking right along. So, we're
waiting. So, they're in our office now. Lauren, right? >> You have an entertainment permit for the same event. >> I got an entertainment permit. >> Has the entertainment permit. He's a party guy. Oh, that guy.
So, I have an entertainment permit to for the former Thorn W. Burgess School for the Public Safety Night for DJ Pat Pharaoh Enterprise who will be doing live music, recorded music and dancing.
Doesn't know our crowd, does he? >> Well, I mean, I might break up my >> after the chicken fingers, of course. Yeah. Right. So, it's >> got a few moves, you know. >> Okay. >> You know, >> let's let's let's have a Zoom meeting
that night if we're going to put that on to you. See what kind of clicks we get. All right. Anyhow, so it's 4 to 7 for uh Pat Pharaoh Enterprise at the public safety night. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. Thank you.
>> And I think you're on you're on record now, Don, as you're busting a move. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Fine. >> If I do that doesn't bring I'll do the robot kind of a How about the lawnmower thing? I think that's pretty
much. >> Okay. So, now we're kind of waiting for the advisory committee to come up and we're going to talk about our thingy. We already went over the warrant and nothing changed from what was talked about today.
So uh the well three motions for the senior center are still there. Transfer for the shortage. Repurpose the money from uh the basically add the description of you know what it was used for so it can
be used for the other towards the uh HVAC and then the HVAC appropriation. We assume that you would get up and make the motion for the HVAC part. Okay. And then Don's doing the transfer from
retirement to the loss of the grant, federal grant, and then I'll do the one to repurpose the money. >> I just wanted to make sure that the language in the repurposing allowed us to continue to use the money
in the event that the HVAC system comes in less than the would be 250,000. that the other priorities that the money was originally approved for the roof would
still be available. >> Right. But there would be nowhere near enough money to do the roof. You're going to need another appropriation down the road, but that that extra could be towards the next thing, right? >> Keep rolling. >> I mean, it's really appropriate up to.
So, >> right. While we're waiting here, may may I bring up Go ahead. >> No, I have another. >> May May I bring up another topic? >> The transfer of the liquor license for the Hampton >> liquor store.
>> Liquor store. Uh we voted we I would I make a motion that we resend the approval um because there were several other I don't want to call them discrepancies, but se several other items that weren't correct on the initial application.
So the process therefore they pretty much started over again and correct their deficiencies. >> They can just correct their deficiencies, right? We can still vote on it. But >> so basically I put the approval in advance, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Because uh there's two there's there was two issues. One of them was the
department of unemployment uh certification expired on August 5th, 2025. >> They have to have a more current one. And also they originally, if you recall, they asked us to vote for a pledge for their inventory and their license, but
on their forum they checked off that there was no pledge. >> Right. And also, wasn't there a question about the locations also? >> No, the loc the other question was that the they said that they owned a previous liquor license. They have a previous
liquor alcohol license and it wasn't on the form. So they had to redo the form to conclude the present alcohol liquor lights they have. Plus turns out that they have actually have two of them. >> That's what I thought. >> One in Springfield, one in in Long
Meadow. So >> the lawyer corrected those, right? >> Is that the 6B thing or >> the six BC thing? Right. >> So they they need to get their thing together. Uh >> and so we can have we can have long
>> pause the approval of the until all until everything is completed and we vote again on it at a future subsequent meeting. >> Right. Right. >> The actual liquor elections will require further vote of the board select board. >> Right. Right. Second. All in favor?
>> I should point out that we did try to contact the the lawyer prior to this meeting and he hasn't responded. >> Okay. So, >> all right. That must be really really >> Okay. Well, while we're waiting on them,
um >> obviously with the next week we have the uh advisory hearing at 7. Before that, Lauren, you said we have a public hearing for another poll permit. Is that next week? >> No, that's >> that's November. >> Is that November? >> November 10th.
>> Okay. All right. >> So, what else do we have for next week prior to >> right now? Just highway union >> from the highway union to meet. >> Oh. >> Oh, good.
>> I haven't seen them in a while. >> That would be executive. >> You want to do your reports? >> No, we can do it. I'm sorry. >> What was Caroline's question? >> Country Club Drive. the location on the >> and they're here.
>> Just for the public to know, >> senior centers proposed to be closed Thursday and Friday. Paving of the parking lot, weather permitting. >> Yes, I saw that email from Becky. Yeah. >> Hello. >> Good evening. >> Oh, no. We got we got you on camera over
here. >> I will say good morning. >> I was going to have the camera look in my right ear. How many four? I'll >> faces that was your spark coverage. >> It was. Yes. Thanks. >> That was the mystery. We had to go back
since we didn't know if it was the uh the lawyer from the left there or whichever. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, this is the time we uh put on the agenda for another update on the financial discussion we had last week. Um so, anything change? You found more
money? >> Well, we're hoping that you reconsidered the requests that that are on the on the warrant. I'm wondering if there's any change in any of those numbers. >> Uh let's see. We took off the placeholder for the school.
Uh we did add the request for CPA, but Doug, you're aware of that and that's obviously no impact to us anyhow. >> Yeah. >> Right. So everything is left on there because I think what we talked about was
the need won't be going away, but we may make an explanation of it and say we're going to be bringing that back in the spring. uh for instance an example would be the loader in its current form would be an outright purchase we think it's probably too much
to put on for at this point now we are also exploring a brought to mark and mentioned to Brian is there possibility of a lease type pro lease purchase program in the future when you're talking a piece of equipment that's good for 15 to 20 years maybe buying it all at once and paying for all
once is a little much and I'm sure that's how you know some of the other towns and municipalities do it. So, but at this point we are going to be explaining what's happening with it, but we will not be we'll be motioning no action on
it. >> Okay. >> One caution with you is lease agreements required borrowing authorizations. >> Right. >> And I'm not even sure the current article would support that. >> We're not doing it this way. I'm saying maybe for the future that might be a way to finance. Right. Great.
Um, we did meet with park and wreck earlier and they are pressing ahead with their request for money for a truck, which is their right to do.
So, they'll be at your meeting with a 17 slide PowerPoint next week. Enjoy that. Let's see the other one. Uh, Don, you want to talk about the uh the signage at the transfer? >> Yeah, the
the we're going to go with the electrical upgrade. Got to get a price on that, but not the signage. >> Mhm. >> Because I don't think we need it. That's probably only about $2,500 difference, but at least it'll knock something off there, >> right? >> What's the purpose for the You got Is it 12K?
>> Yeah, 125. >> What's the purpose to bring power into the shed? >> Bring power into the shed for those guys. Yeah. Especially in the winter, they need a little They don't even have a heater in there, you know. >> I I suggested >> they had a generator, John. Is Is that
not working anymore or >> It's It's noisy. They got to keep it inside. So, now they're not vented. And it's really, you know, it was a solution, but not the best. The other thing we talked about last week is is this something that should be under the
enterprise account as an upgrade which would only increase the deficit in the enterprise account but it would be another source of funding for it down the road. >> Um isn't it essentially 601 half dozen of another? >> It is but it would allow you to do it
now if you need to because Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh the cruiser we're recommending against buying it at this time. I think we talked about the fact that we have I think five cruisers and honestly three people on a shift. So
if there's one vehicle that's not really running that well, you got four other ones that are. You can probably get a few months until you need to. So we'll bring it back again in the spring. >> So when you say you're recommending against, does that mean you're going to >> We're not We're moving no action against it. Yeah.
I have a cruiser related question. I can remember we talked about back when we had capital planning that at that point we were buying 100,000 mile warrantied cars and getting rid of 100,000 miles and there was a suggestion to the select men when that committee dissolved that
we go to 125 or 150,000 mi and we track the difference in expenses. Has that has anybody actually been paying attention to that? Do you know? We're getting pretty good information from the police department on that. I will say relative to what you're talking about. I was
watching cuz I do that the Hatfield Town meeting and they were looking for a couple cruisers and the people were like they've only got 140 on them and they turned the motion down. So I think like you talked before the warranties are longer.
>> Um you know >> a lot of it is idle time versus you know you can't go by the hours because they sit. I mean, I heard a comment, well, you know, if we have to do a brake job, one of those is two grand. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. A new one 70,000, right? So,
>> you know, and then the the other thing when they talk about getting a truck versus a cruiser >> and we were saying that's something the new chief should decide, not, you know, that's if there's a policy change on vehicles, >> let's wait for the new chief to find out
where the bathroom is and get his feet under him first. So we would move no action and see what happens in the spring on that. So that would knock >> uh between all that that's going to knock two something off the off the 250
almost >> 250 plus >> right the um the issue is as we discussed last week is you know the the the increase in the operating budget that we voted in the in the spring was almost 1.2 2 million.
And the factoring in, you know, our free cash, our levy limit, our new growth. Um, we're still going to be to maxing out the the levy limit. Um,
and it's taken a long time for us to build that cushion where we've, you know, we've been able to have expenditures of town meeting without worrying about a two and a half concern. This is going to get us into the area where we're going to have to start considering that again in coming
meetings because our flexibility is going to be reduced pretty substantially. Um we had discussion um we met before coming in to meet with you. We had discussion about the the water district allocation.
Um, and I think the consensus that we came to was to apply 650 to the water district and that will free up the additional 300 um either for these projects or to reducing the tax rate um
which will now obviously >> leave how much more to pay off point was about 1.9 I think. what that was. We went over that last week. I remember it.
>> Thank you. >> Contractor been paid. >> Basic. Yeah, >> we've been signing some pretty big warrants to believe. So, yeah. >> So, they're >> Yeah. The biggest outstanding number right now is the pump house. The it's a delay in the delivery on that. So, that
part hasn't been done. >> Okay. >> Which represented considerable number >> 13 was our total cost after ARPA and grant. >> If we take 650 off of it, it would leave us with what 1.54
>> 87 something like that. So that'll leave us paying the the water district for a period of time than we had originally intended because obviously you know the fire department bond will be coming to us probably in three years
maybe maybe two but definitely three right but I mean look at what we handled. go back to the uh the road bond which was what 2 million we pay that in five years here we're talking 2 million and do we really need to accelerate and pay that off in three
years or as Dick said you know it's 61 doesn't the other you pay it off early you have flexibility down the road but if you don't if you pay it off early you're constraining yourself what you can do inside the years you're paying early so it's on one hand on the other hand
>> oh yeah I mean it doesn't go away. No, I mean we can we we can defer it but you know it doesn't make it go away. >> I'm not saying deferring but take smaller bites. I mean right >> if you're done 1.2 maybe it's three more years at 400 a piece. >> It's just looking you know into the
future as best we can which is kind of difficult these days. Um I mean there's going to be expenses associated with this building of who knows what. going to be additional expenses at TWWB that are going to be substantial. You're talking windows and doors and
>> paving and >> all big money things. >> I mean, our big >> and those are the that's what we know of. >> I mean, you know, something could happen to Green Meadows or something could happen to Academy Hall. Who knows? You know, it's >> Yeah. >> Well, TWWB is somewhere between one year
and eight years from a new roof for >> sure and a half. Mhm. And >> you know, we still have I mean the bridge thing is still sitting out there too. Not the South Road Bridge because Mark took care of that inside of his chapter 90 or his his paving money. But,
you know, we put a considerable amount of time into the Main Street Bridge, Laughingberg Bridge, and if we pull the trigger on that, there's an pretty large expense, assuming the tip doesn't come through
for that project to the town. >> Well, what what magnitude are we looking at for that? >> 3 to four million, wasn't it, Don? Yeah. >> Be again. We were fortunate the all the money spent on it, most of it was paid for by
grants, >> but >> but it hasn't fixed the bridge. >> Like I said, that was my expression. All that money and not a spade in the ground yet. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, we have butterfly gardens. >> Or was that the MVP? >> That was the the infiltration things as
well. Yeah. >> Rain gardens, not butterfly gardens. >> You sure? >> Positive. Okay. >> You say potato, he says potato. Okay. Anyhow, so you're right. It's a hard couple years coming forward. This year, we're hoping that based on our
conversation with all of you last week that with no action on these articles for 250 and then you're talking about putting a little less towards the water project, we can get the proposed tax rate into single digits or increase into
single digits. Again, I know you've got nothing from the assessors solid yet at this point. >> Maybe new growth is really up higher than we thought. >> You were conservative with the number you used, right? >> We're carrying 150, which historically we've done without too much difficulty,
>> right? >> Um and I I don't know actually I haven't spoken to either the assessors or or building. I don't know if there's been a lot going on or not, but >> without a big utility project there's I mean that was those were our good years. Yeah.
I expect it to be a little higher than 150, but right now it won't be of any magnitude. >> It's comfortable with that. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Dick, there was one thing you mentioned last week I wanted to ask you about. Um, you had talked about part of the shifting of the money and stuff and you
mentioned overlay reserve and you felt they were keeping a pretty good number there and you had asked them could they release some to make up the total that was carried forward. >> Actually, no. The conversation had to do with the problem we have with DR, >> right? >> And that they do suggested the assessors
inflate their number last year to get us to the tax rate we were planning for. >> Okay. >> And the assessors weren't comfortable with that. >> Okay. So, it's not that they're keeping it. They want >> No, this that was a history lesson that are keeping their typical 100 150 something like that. >> Yeah. I saw Yeah. Yeah. This rounding
thing, but >> um it be between 100 150 I would imagine. >> That's probably fair. I don't know of any outstanding large things that would typically keep a large number for a utility case or something like that. >> I don't think there's any ATB cases. >> No.
>> Okay, that's good. >> Verago, right? >> Yeah, there's that. >> One on the horizon. >> Um potentially there will be a little more money next year, half a year. I'm not sure how that the analesco payment
goes, but that'll be assessed as of Jul J January 1st as full operation. So, we get the full payment, which I believe is an extra >> 50. I think it's actually more than that because it was going to be a total of
140 and right now we're getting the lease payment which is I think 50 something. >> Okay. >> So, I think the operation number, the pilot number is higher than that. So, that's an extra. So once they flip it on >> Oh, it's been flipped on, but unfortunately was flipped on after the 1st of January.
>> So the assessors assess as of January 1st >> 12:01. >> Yeah. So >> So there is a little more there. >> I actually got some good news on county retirement, too. I did the audits always September 30th. >> Well, we don't have a police chief.
We're down one officer. And even with a couple of new hires we had, our payroll is actually $40,000 less at this audit. than it was a year ago. >> So, the same thing we're talk about when they flu when they do these this one's this dates working our favor.
>> Yeah. >> Uhhuh. >> We're still going to get the 8% increase, but >> but on a lower number, >> but it's at least on a lower number. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> That's next year's. >> All right. So,
is that on December 1st or January 1st, right? >> Yeah. We'll have it for the budget season. >> Yeah. >> So, next week, >> just just before we get to next week, because Gary's here and John are here, the senior center, they're in here for three uh for 130 for HVAC.
>> Mhm. >> And I know that's a number that's been worked and worked and worked. And I assume that's a pretty firm number at this point. >> Well, it's not really 130. Well, the number that's here, two firms to give us
an idea for full replacement for both the heating and the and the air conditioning. >> And both are slightly under that number. Um, but again, it was an estimate and
one of the unknowns that we have is whether or not um the technology is what we want to go with at that point. Um, and it may be a little bit more expensive uh, initially upfront, but
efficiency wise and long-term would be worth the price. We don't know that yet. And that's why the number that you have is is probably a little bit of of extra, but we wanted to be careful.
>> But you'll be 120 out of the roof. That's >> in order. >> That's what I wanted to say. The numbers of the whole system is actually not 130. Correct. Correct. >> You basically have 120 in the bank and you need this much more, >> right? Yeah. >> But you're comfortable that whichever way you go with it in terms of the
technology, it'll fit within >> it. But obviously talking about the future, the roof is going to be a priority. Um the windows uh we agreed the committee
agreed and that that can be pushed down the maintenance line if you will. But the next time we come before um assuming that the HVAC gets approved and we get it installed would be for the roof.
>> Right. >> Be proactive moving forward. >> You said you're going to replace the whole system. What does that entail? whole well and it's one reason why we held off the roof is because the whole system is basically in the attic and so they're going to have to remove a
portion of the roof in order to install um the current technologies. So dominoes falling the way they are. Um we're looking at uh you know uh the putting the HVAC AC system back where it
is in the roof or in the attic space. So >> does it need to be repaired or replaced? That's >> No, it needs to be >> Can you say the current technology? So you're taking the whole system out to put new Yes. >> system in. The the problem is that the 25y old system uh works with a number of
liquids >> for cooling and heating and those liquids are extremely expensive now because they've been replaced by a new type of of liquid.
So that the cost to do the replacement isn't just to replace the liquids, >> but what happens is all of the couplings, all of the the motors, they all will have to be upsized, re reworked because the new coolance and the new
heating portion of it. Um they're not compatible with with the system. >> How's it heated now? Is it oil or gas? Is it gas? >> It's gas. >> Gas. The heat is gas and it's a basically a gas fired hot air furnace if
you will and several of them. Okay. >> Um and what happens over time is the uh combustion chambers where the flame is um can start to degrade. >> Yeah. >> So over a period of time those
the degradation the heat exchanger >> how many is it? Two two furnaces. Two >> pardon me. Done. How many furnaces? Two. You said two. >> I believe there's uh there's two. There's I believe there's two. Um and there's a couple of as far as the air
conditioning goes. There's a couple of compressors also. >> It's all in the ceiling. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The compressors are outside, I believe, but the air handler is upstairs. I will say we sell all this type of
thing and 25 years ago it was R12 and now replaced by 134 which they're phasing out again. >> Correct. >> And just like you said you get the refrigerant but the TE valve is different with each refrigerant and it's just a ripple effect and then you go
back to the gas furnaces 25 years ago if you had an efficiency in the low 80s it was a great furnace. >> Right >> now we're seeing them at 96 to 98. So not only that but and you don't say these things you don't be held to it.
There will be a gain in efficiency for utilities. You can't quantify it but you know that's why they're selling these things. You will be saving money through utilities, >> right? So the maintenance I mean the uh the operating costs we're hoping will
drop, >> right? Or not go up as to stay stay level. I'd be happy to stay level. The reason I was talking about the technology too is because um it happened so quickly August that we had this problem. Um there both of the uh people
that we talked with BG Mechanical and Pioneer Valley are looking at potentially grants for heat pumps and potentially solar. >> So again, we needed the window, but we can't also wait too long where the the
system could fail, >> right? Typically these newer the newer systems if you're looking high efficiency electric as well you know for the the AC as well as the the gas there's usually pretty large rebates I think you're talking about right like Massave or whoever we'll will give rebates or cost savings opportunity
there >> right initially when we sat down last >> when we were talking expansion we we sat with our local legislators about potential grants available to us Um
they aren't. >> Yeah, >> we're a public building and at that point in time now the private side of it, National Grid and Eversource have come forward according to our mechanical people and there may may be some
programs that we can take advantage of. >> I think Brian, correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't there's some opportunity at TWWB for some rebates? >> Uh those would be utility rebates that Gary's talking about. Yeah. >> Okay. uh this town is not eligible for green communities grants. So, okay,
>> that would be one uh likely source that we that we could have tapped, but it's not the case. >> First time we did a uh a light swap, we did it at Green Meadows 20 something years ago, 8020. They paid 80%, the town paid 20%. And
now it's flipped the other way. I mean, it's a discount. you're getting something back, but the incentive isn't there like it was back when they were really pushing the, you know, to the T8s and the T12s and swapping out the ballots back then. So,
>> so either way, >> all right, >> we'll be back. >> Well, so, um, I know that, uh, John has a pretty detailed 17 or 18 page PowerPoint for his part. I believe parker wreck will have a DVD.
>> Well, anybody use DVDs anymore? >> Sure. Some people do. >> Okay. >> Yeah. As you know, our public hearing is next Monday. >> It will be on Zoom. >> I assume so. We'll be in this room. So, >> I I'll speak with the the clerk when I
get a chance. Um Yeah. >> Oh, she's still here. >> All right. Um, we do have the AV crew for the town meeting. >> Okay. >> All right. So, >> all right. Well, thank you. We will the numbers with, you know, these decisions
and see where we are. >> Thank you. We don't envy your job. We know you are doing a great job on getting us. >> Well, unfortunately, we're spending a lot of money or we decided to spend a lot of money and the bill comes due. >> Well, the town decided to spend the money. You're trying to find a way. I
say we the five of you are trying to find a way that you know we can afford to do it properly. >> But again, Dix made the point before the town voted to spend this money. Now we need to find out a way to pay for it.
>> Very good. >> Thanks much. >> So great to have you all here. >> Can I ask a question? His is anybody using that tower anymore? >> That's a great question.
>> Let me know. >> I don't know. You want to go next door next? The fire department is probably >> Mount. >> I actually don't know. >> Oh, yeah. I don't know. The black tower over there. >> I don't think they are. We're not paying them anymore for it. >> They're not using it. We're going to for
now. >> Actually, seriously, the fire department is doing training. You know, they have the thing. Eddie's probably there. You can walk next door and ask. Yeah, I will. >> All right, that was actually productive, I think.
>> Thank you. >> All right, so now select my reports. Eric, >> Eric, Greg, >> I have nothing to report. >> All right, >> Juan, nothing. >> See, bueno.
All right, town administrator. All right, speaking of rain gardens, >> good under our storm water >> permit, we are required if we are a little bit behind doing our demonstration project. I was required I
think in probably year four. >> Really? >> Really? >> We're in year six. Um, >> who brought that up? >> What's that? >> Who brought that up? >> Our consultants. Oh, time >> bond. Uh, so I had a Mark and I had a a
Zoom call with them and we talked about different ideas and um different locations in Thornton Burges came up because it's in the area and there's the drainage swale between uh the school and great horse and we suggested to them
that if we have to do some type of excavation or ray garden type thing that might be a good a good uh inexpensive way to do it. We can pull one of the outfalls from the storm drains there and run it down into the >> depression that I assume we'll put some
rocks and some stuff in and some plants and >> um but and then also it needs to be demonstration project. So it would be we would do it further down the hill towards towards the building than if the library wanted to do educational programming or something like that with
the frogs and all that kind of stuff that would be a good good uh good place to do it. So, um, time bomb was going to get us, uh, a sense of what it would cost for that. >> Okay. >> Okay. Update on town hall and new town
hall. >> Good question. So, we are um moving fast and furiously towards uh the middle of November. Um, the abatement uh asbestous abatement of the
five rooms plus the other two rooms for the library. Um, the five rooms were completed last week. >> Mhm. >> And I believe the last two should have been completed today. Might be they might need to take down the containment uh tomorrow. I'm not sure. Uh they've
got right in um on the heels of the abatement to uh do the flooring in those in starting in those five rooms and that started today I believe. Um we have um
>> so the other rooms that we have are purposed right now which is you know park and wreck the other library rooms that are physically in the library module if you will. They're not being redone. >> Um those
class the two classroom spaces >> or the classroom >> that are part of the library >> part of the library. Yeah. Inside that square. Mhm. >> Um, those are the two that the library is is using their own funds to. >> Were they done at the same time as this? >> Yeah, those are the two that they were wrapping up now.
>> Okay. So, the five in the front, yours, Lauren, and the three libraries are already done. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Uh, those are all baited and then they're working on the flooring now. >> Okay. And it's rug and the library ones and we get tile. >> Uh, yeah, it's tile in the office space. >> Like leftover tile. Not that.
>> Yeah. We're going to mismatch everything the district left and put it together. Nice. Nice. >> No, it's style. Um, so that's moving forward. Um, >> big thing would be the doors and the door controls and stuff.
>> Yep. So, the door controls, um, Valley Communications is is going to be the one who does the the door controls. Um, we're able to go through the the the statewide contract that we needed to do for that. Um Herb's working with
somebody for uh >> Do you think I'm sorry. Do you think the door things will be done in time for our move? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> The door between the >> No sourcing problems. >> Nope. I don't think so. >> Um initially um after Herb talked with uh Wendell about the the door at the at
the end of the center hallway. That's likely going to be a temporary wall um to start at the end of the center hallway just past. If you go straight in, keep going back. It's probably going to be a temporary wall to be >> Oh, is the one that's not there, you mean at this point? >> Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. All right. >> So, we have separation especially on the weekend when >> from parks and stuff. >> We have kids in the back area, that kind of stuff. U Valley Valley was supposed to get started either today or tomorrow. Did that work? Um
doing painting. Um they're going to start stripping the floors, rewaxing the floors. >> Okay. Did it work out tiles, lights? Did it work out well with the temporary help with him? >> Um, he needs to file an employment application and that's what I'm that's what I'm waiting for. >> Okay.
>> So, I let her know that last week. >> I have not received an application yet. >> Custodial >> um I believe he was going to meet with um have discussion with council today. >> He's having a discussion today. >> Okay. >> Almost over.
>> Yes. because somebody wanted to meet Brian. >> Oh, >> it's it's getting close. We're almost over. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, I'm sorry. He's meeting with who? Oh, Kelso. >> Yeah. And then he was going to reach out to two others to get >> Are you still any trouble
>> on uh >> cookie? Cookie >> quotes. >> Okay. All right. So, in relation to your your timeline >> Yeah. and seeing there's going to be action or sorry occupants of this
building into December. You'll work that out with the current company that's cleaning this building. >> We'll have to that development was today. >> Yeah. So, >> we'll have to >> Were they aware that there was going to be they weren't going to need them after December?
>> Um I don't know what >> I did not talk with them. >> The people here because I mean that's never come through her because he never dealt with them. >> Okay. was always to our office. >> Yeah. >> Fortunately, I don't think we're on a contract with them on a cont
basis. So, he was going to have that conversation with them. >> Okay. >> Um, so we're still aiming for the week of November 10th to do the move. >> Um, I think there'll be a period of time, probably about a week, where we're going to have to be close to the public. Um, I think likewise when the library is
able to move, which uh may be a week or two later, I think they're also likely going to be probably closed for a week. My proposal would be to would be to I guess it would kind of be not that I want to go back to the pandemic era stuff, but it's do business with
>> that's what I was going to say like like we did with the co time. Exactly. We'll have um >> we're fine. >> Employees responding to emails and and phone calls and stuff like that >> um from remote locations, but um Pioneer Moving set to go. Um I know there's a
lot of questions that staff have. Um so we set up a meeting this Wednesday. Uh Brian Clark from Pioneer Movers is going to be here to talk about the moving process and the the moving system the moving uh and the color coded system and numbering system to make it easy.
>> When's the new sign coming? >> Um I have to check with Mark. >> Okay. For the entrance. >> Yeah. >> And you said before you've got a ton of stuff to get rid of inside. And your thought was that you would put it on the lawn in front up by the street. >> Yeah. On both sides of Roboham Road in
front of the school. >> Okay. Connie, we own the rightway a little bit off the road on on the great horse. Okay. >> Right. So, I figured we move it over there. >> Probably the really broken stop there. >> Um, >> may I make a suggestion? At the at the
uh >> Just kidding. >> at the town meeting. Maybe we should have a handout notifying everyone that >> town hall is going to be closed from this time to this time because of the move and the library and that kind of stuff. >> You know what? And if you can make the second side, if you get someone to do a
nice drawing of what the office layout's going to be on the other side. >> Yeah. >> So, bring the Now, you'll know where everything is. You're going to need some signage inside, too. >> Yeah. So, this gets to one of my other uh things I want to talk about cuz I was in Long Meadow for the health director
interviews on Friday. They had recently done the >> uh I don't remember what the name of that school is. They had they had recently moved their town hall into a school at by Greenwood. Greenwood Park. Yeah. Greenwood Park. They moved into the school there. >> Oh, it's not at the end of
>> No, it's it's in Connecticut now. It's right on the border. >> That's convenient for everybody. >> Yeah, there's there was some push back, I guess. Um, so they moved into that that school building there >> and it it's interesting they did a lot of the same a lot of the same things that we're looking to do. So, I have
some a couple vendors for signage and things like that that they used. Um, but initially I want to the idea is for us to get in there and see how it works and >> what what we might have in place will likely need to be be adjusted and stuff like that. So, >> look, you always said I mean it might
not be impossible that you might move a couple offices later, but if the flow works out, >> they're going to change. I will say and you talked about the law me thing and not to disparage other towns but I can't imagine how difficult it is in East Lo now with two town
buildings >> Mhm. >> at the opposite ends pretty much of North Main Street and going through all that but they were constrained. >> Yeah. >> What were they going to do? Buy Rockies basically and put it there. That would be about their only option. >> Yeah. Now they're talking about changing
Shaker Road and uh Pleasant Street on then taking them out of the Rotary and uh teing teeing Shaker Road and take Maple Street would make that that tea with the traffic I see in front of my place at times incredible.
>> You see the plan in front of them right here. >> And they lose their status as the biggest Rotary in the world. >> So Friday we had health director interviews. We have four really strong candidates. Uh based on the demo, Jon
Meadows, the hiring hiring town there. >> Um I think I think there were myself, Lyn Simmons, and Nick Bro from Wilberham. I think we both had consensus of who who we think metal should offer the position to. So hopefully they'll offer that by the end of this week.
>> Right. So we have a budget set for that department with, you know, different, you know, numbers for each community. >> Yep. >> You think it'll affect that? I mean, was there any talk of like the range you're offering for this person here and if
it's all of a sudden reshape the budget? >> Uh, we didn't talk we didn't talk costs. >> Okay. Um, >> yeah, I can ask Lynn that question >> cuz I mean we also get into, you know, I know last year for whatever reason, Don, it seemed like
the number came out. Actually, it cost us nothing because he took care of something, but it's >> Yeah, they had some they had a vacancy, I think, after Anthony left. They had a hard time filling that position, right? >> So, the the even more than that 40,000 >> 40,000 wasn't used. The appropriated
amount like Okay, thank you. But and you also mentioned before that we're coming up to we need set time to talk about the dispatch. >> We got a >> right we saw earlier
>> you know changes in their operation and also we have requests from the time we talked to them about increase in security at the new building possibly adding more of the municipal buildings to their security. You know we don't have a coverage at the senior center. We
don't really have uh coverage yet. We have an alarm system, but not like camera coverage. We have an alarm system at both locations, but no camera. Um, so I think there's things we can after maybe it's after the first of the
year. Well, that might even be too long. I think after town meeting. >> Yeah, because we got to have the number. Yeah. >> So, I think I'd put that down for our thoughts in November. start getting together with actually breaking Dan's, you know,
getting his feet wet right away as well. >> Yeah. >> And the update on that is >> um so we're we're finally able to schedule the uh the psych pre-employment exam for this week. >> Um and um I need I need to get him the
contract proposal. I got to make those final edits and I want to and I'll send that out to him. I emailed him today and said I would get it to him uh tomorrow. Yeah, I think that's the big part. I mean, the guy's been serving for 20 plus years, and that was a nice award he got from me as well. So, I'm not really
thinking the exam is going to turn up much. >> Yeah. >> So, but we got to get him agreed to the terms of the contract and and move forward here. >> At this point, we are saving a little money because I think Scott's number weekly is less than was getting, but still. Yeah. Maybe I can get those new
guns they were talking about. still looking for those pistols done. Yeah, >> they're getting pistols or cars. >> Um, and then tax classification hearing. >> Yeah. So, you were saying mid November. >> Okay. >> 17th of November.
>> Yeah. We're thinking about maybe the 17th of November and and that would likely be at the first meeting in the uh in the new place. >> Wow. reality.
>> And I did talk to Brian about uh maybe we need to upgrade our technology a little bit for that camera. When I watch the meetings, the camera seems a little soft now. Although we could use I think a soft camera is probably a good idea. >> Look at me as a makeup person.
>> Huh. >> Tax filters on >> another tax classification. >> All right. Get the Collins report out. What do you have for that? >> What do you have for that? Thank you. Let me talk to No, Mark wants to keep using the thing. It's a little work off
one of his people should help us, right? Yeah. Sure. >> With that being said, is there anything else to come before the board? >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> I. Thank you all. Have a good week. >> Yeah. So, as a quick thing,