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Good evening and welcome to the August 3rd, 2026 meeting of the Hampton Select Board and Board of Health. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Her we moved it because the side shots were not flattering. >> Okay. Right. Right. >> Was a unanimous vote. It was a unanimous vote, believe me. All right. And so we

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are meeting in the uh selectman's meeting room of the Camden Town Hall. We are recording the meeting as well as broadcasting over Zoom. Is there anyone else recording the meeting? >> All right. We have two select board members here and select board member

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Eric Vanderleen is attending. Hi, Eric. >> Hi. How are you, John? >> Uh, we're good. We're good. >> Good. Hi, Don. >> Great. Uh, we left the cookie at your desk. Uh, Eric, you can pick it up. >> No problem. All right. First thing on

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the agenda, we have a couple of minutes to review. Lauren, thank you for sending them out ahead of time. Makes much quicker for us. And also I learned to the things that we approve for sending out please include them in a minute so we have them online as well.

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>> Any comment on the minutes of July 6th? >> July 6th. I do have a comment. >> No. Oh. Will it end? When will it end? >> Well, no. This is another comment about well it the minutes joged my memory

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[laughter] >> like a treadmill every morning. >> Yes. And we we requested of our our million-doll OPM and architect for uh a timeline or steps that need to be taken. Any word from them? Are they

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still employed by us or [clears throat] >> I believe they are still employed by us. I sense a reminder the end of last week asking for an update and I did have not heard back. No,

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>> the only reason I asked is because the last time they were here they said it would be six or seven months. I said I think before we could go out to bed and I thought maybe if they and they listed some things that they could give us a timeline maybe there's some things we could help push along that would be

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helpful to the cause. I asked them July 29th even >> right the one thing especially if they're thinking of going to planning next Wednesday are they ready for the ANR submission will be the thing and that's question for either Dan O'Brien

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and Smith Associates or uh you know the architect directly all right other than that any questions on July 6th approval >> second all in favor I >> thank you.

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>> All right. July 13th. >> I got I got nothing there. >> I got again it was a good meeting with especially with the uh financial people the advisory committee got the end of the year stuff done and I think a good reflection that the year ended on a very

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positive note with the challenges in front of the town. I think everyone in the town hall, the move, everything, it just went so darn well and at the end of the fiscal year, we came out very well.

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>> Move approval. >> Second. All >> in favor? >> I thank you. >> Okay, this is the uh time and date set for a dog hearing. It has been noticed.

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Let's see. Brian D, you may recall. We don't do this very often. Is there a typical opening of the basically the verbiage of the order? How is that? >> Um, some places will read the notice,

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the legal notice out loud. I have a copy. Do I have a copy of the legal notice? I don't see it. >> I have the letter. >> Yeah, that's what mean. >> Yeah, that would be final. >> It's in that state of July.

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>> All right. Well, we are holding a dog hearing um at the request of the acco because of uh an allegation that two dogs owned by Antonio Basile kept at 242 Scanic Road, Hampton, Mass, are nuisance dogs as defined by MGL chapter 140

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section 136A. Uh the notice was sent and delivered to the the owner of the dogs, Mr. Bile. We have a record of that. What was delivered to his mailbox? Yes. >> Okay. >> So,

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if there are any witnesses, we will swear them in at this point. All I see is Kelly Sears, our animal control officer. So, Shelly, I don't know if I heard the door.

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Sorry. >> Nope. He didn't call He didn't call you a dog. >> All right. So, I don't see anybody here for Shel, can you give us the summary, please? Well, I think this has been going on since you got

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>> Okay, Shel, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you God? >> Yes. >> Okay. Would you mind doing me a favor? Just move over to that chair. You're a little closer to the microphone. You have a soft melodious voice. I want to make sure we have all the words on

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the on the record. >> Shel's hand officer for the town. Shelley Sears. >> Anyways, uh they've been getting loose since he got them, even when they were just really little tiny puppies. And it's >> This is Mr. Bile. And

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>> yes, he has two dogs. >> Two dogs. This is at the trailer. Yes. >> On Scanic Road. Yes. >> So, there's no home built yet at this point. >> No. >> Okay. people pick them up, take him to their house, and then um one person did and he went there and he was furious

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because she had his dog, but she saved them from being hit by a car. And other people have stopped to try to help him and he um he doesn't appreciate the help at all, but they cross the street. Um people miss hitting them

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>> and u the recent one was in July when Desiree Johnson was walking by. Well, this has happened to her a couple times, but this time she got scratched. The dog ran across. They're not vicious dogs. They're nice dogs, but they're just always on the run. >> No, they're unrestrained. >> Yes. And he's been sent a registered

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letter about that about what the bows are and to keep them restrained. >> And I haven't gotten a phone call in probably three weeks. >> From a neighbor or him, you mean? Or >> no, from a from a passer by that sees the dogs.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. So, at this point, we're not sure if he is doing restraints at this point. He's been told he has to. >> We don't have acknowledgement of that. >> No, because after the registered letter, I got about six phone calls after about people seeing them in the road and

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Desiree was walking her dog and the dog came across the street and jumped up on her and scratched it. >> Okay. Is Mr. Bile typically at home when the dogs are there? He brings them with him to the trailer or you're not sure? >> Yeah, a lot of times Oh, no. He's there and um sometimes he's on his quad

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driving around. They seem he's home. >> Are the dogs licensed yet? Do you know? >> Not sure if they are. >> Cler's office said they have them licensed. He sent out a letter. I asked the clerk's office. He did get them

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licensed. >> They are licensed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, they're licensed. This another question. Licensed to the address which is at this point not a home.

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This is a trailer that's we've had questions about before that's being used as a trailer while construction is hopefully going to happen and it sounds almost like

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it's turning to a bit of permanence which is a bit of a concern. >> The foundation has >> of a new of a new home. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Good. All right. But again, they're licensed to an address which at

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this point is not a doicile, right? It's a construction lot. So, are they also were they licensed in some other city before this? >> Oh, no. They were babies when he got them. They were babies when he brought them.

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>> So, where does he take him? Is he at the house all the time? the trailer all the time. >> Is he there? >> Yeah. >> Um I I don't know. I mean, that's where people say the dogs are when they come

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say that they've come across the street. Not to go off track a little bit, but you see where I'm going with this? I mean, is this a 24-hour 247 doicile in the trailer? A do you have any idea? Well, I can

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confirm what u the acco was saying. We've been there multiple times. Multiple reports by neighbors who've been costed by those uh well cost is a strong word, but the dogs running free and people walking with their dogs and being approached by them.

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So, in one case with Shel foundation has been poor. Site work has been ongoing but not uh consistently. All I can tell you is that Every time we've been called there, Mr. Bile has

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had either a presence there or there's been signs of being there at the trail. You know, no one is going there at 4:00 in the morning to knock on the trailer door to see if he comes to it. >> But the dogs are always there. The reports we get are always the dogs being

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on scantic >> and being there >> and the construction process is slow. So, I can't tell you if he's living in that trailer 24/7, but I have my suspicions. We did have another neighbor come in [clears throat]

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just to voice some concerns. And uh he had been going to his house and either asking to, you know, plug an extension cord in or um hook up a couple of hoses to get some water, something along those lines, and essentially we're always welcome. And they said, "Yeah, no more

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of that. We're all set with sort of indicative to me that he's if he needs water, electricity, he he must be there quite often. [clears throat] >> So, I don't want to run a skew of our purpose in the hearing here, but I just

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think it raised some other issues about I don't want to say the legality of the dogs being there, but I question if it's a doicile and if they're being doiciled there. So, and honestly, it gets into how they get a license if it's not a home.

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How do you licensed dog in a place that's not the residence, if you will? So, either way, but to your purpose here, what are you asking from us? >> Well, he needs to restrain him

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>> and he knows that, but he thinks that he can just restrain them with voice command. But they're puppies. They're, you know, their dogs are >> Mhm. >> he's not doing a good job. >> Right. I mean, you will you always hope that, but if it doesn't work out to be

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the case, you have to go to the next step. >> Yeah. >> Right. Um, >> that he lets them out of the kennel and he's hoping that they'll go that way, but they always >> Okay. What's the definition of insanity? The

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same thing over and over and over differently. Anyhow, Don, what's your thought? >> Oh, I'm glad you got him licensed, even though I'm not quite sure we should be licensed here. Well, I

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think I think we need to uh I guess we need to we need to tell them we held a hearing and that we're ordering the dogs to be, you know, restrained. >> Mhm. >> Uh uh, you know, at least restrained at all at all times. >> Mhm.

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>> Uh on his property and uh he's, you know, well, absent dad will be fined. >> Eric, what are your thoughts? >> Yeah, I agree. I think um you know at the end of the day it's it's a shame that the you know from Shelley's saying

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it's not the not the dogs you know it's it's the owner. So but they really should be you know restrained in in some fashion. Um you know unfortunately on a personal experience on a couple different times on Raymond Drive I've had experience of the same thing and even as of recent um experiencing more.

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So, I understand the neighbors frustration and um I think that um you know I think it's a pretty easy thing to comply with. I think we're pretty lenient in the fact that we just want to put you know have the dogs restrained on a leash on a run contained on your

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property and not potentially injuring somebody else or causing an accident in the street. Um things of that nature. So um yeah, I'm on the same page. I think he it's it's overdue. He needs to comply now. >> Okay. So, >> he's been told a few times,

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>> I know, but no, it's like now something basically in writing that we need issue this order that you must keep your dogs under restraint, under control, not a verbal, not a voice control, but a physical control. I don't think we're we're not demanding a fence

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>> around the entire property, >> but it could be a fenced area. It could be their leash. They could be on the run, but they cannot be they don't show the ability to stay loose and under control at this point. So, we need that official order from us.

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So, I'll take a motion to that effect. Uh I move that we uh that the board order the uh dogs of question to be held to be restrained on the property uh in a uh human humane manner. Mhm.

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>> Uh and absent that, uh fines will be assessed. >> Right. We we we agree with the nuisance order. We're not at the dangerous order at any this point. Yes. Although we are concerned >> about the scratching part, but that could be, as you said, young pup

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exuberance. Do you think not dangerous type? >> You know, they're nice dogs. I >> Okay. All right. Eric, uh I second that motion. >> Okay. All in favor? Hi. Hi. >> And with that being said, I'll close

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this hearing. Dangerous dog or sorry, the dog hearing for Antonio Bio. >> Kelly, is there anything else we can do for you? >> Well said, John. Thank you. >> Deer, beavers, cows, >> everybody's been good.

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>> Eagles, nothing. Stray cats, nothing. Jens or something, huh? No, not too many problems. [laughter] I'm good. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I bring that up. Oh, Jesus. [laughter]

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Because we have a neighbor who has chickens, which they come to our yard every day, which is fine. But today, they were in the yard and my wife saw a fox, so she determined that I shall go out in the pouring rain and

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make sure the chickens got home safely. >> Glad you glad you voted. >> I did. I did because >> I told you to >> 58 years of marriage and you do what you're told. >> Yeah. If she wanted your opinion, she'd give it to you, right? >> That's right. >> All right.

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>> Right. Well, thank you. >> Okay. So, if you need if you get a chance, you could run around, you know, with Oaknola area, check out. >> Thank you, Shel. >> Okay. Next on the agenda, we have the South Bridge schedule. Mark, if you want to swing on up, man. Oh, man. Look at

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that tan. Look at that tan on him. >> Glad glad you made it back across the border. >> So, quick before we start this, uh, give us a quick recap of the town after the heck of a storm we had.

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Uh, you know, we had some problem areas, but really what I mean I mean in some cases the the the spots that the water was trying to get to was at full capacity. It just needed some time to

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calm down a little bit. Couple other cases where just covered catch basins. Um once we addressed all of that >> and then >> once it finally stopped raining um you know everything did settle down and drain off quite nicely. I mean it wasn't

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wasn't any huge issues. Um few spots here on Wolverham Road but um >> it did see it seem like a bit of a forecast for additional rain this week though, right? I'm not sure it's the same severity but more rain. >> Yeah. So what we'll do is we're going to continue to keep those coverts and

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drains open. um try to be pretty vigilant about doing that. Um I know last week uh the crews were busy um keeping the drains open and stuff. So um

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could have been worse, but I think somebody said it was three and a half inches. >> I saw Ted posted online 3 something hours. So that was >> I saw some pictures of the uh memorial park in the brook there like close up to the parking lot.

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>> Is that right? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh good. We didn't we don't currently have any real bad ongoing, you know, ongoing fever problem that could have uh caused additional, but

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couple little wash outs we'll have to attend to. Not bad. >> And the big thing that brook runs down, I think it picks up the catch basin. Sorry. The the uh panel that goes under the road behind Cumberland's and that was the one we had to fix several years

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ago that cracked in, but I think they did this the in line sealer. >> That's right. >> Side which saved the whole thing. >> That's right. >> We thank the uh Hland PD for their cooperation as well. I'm sure you guys are in touch, you know, for any issues that go on roadwise, etc. Absolutely. I

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know. I saw the tree down at Garage Park, things like that. >> And we didn't we didn't have to bring out the town arc. >> No. No, >> no mosquitoes. Not this time. No mosquitoes this time. >> And I saw additional rain for the week, but not on the Cape. I believe the Cape showed complete sun for the rest of the

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week. >> Helpful. Sorry, Chief. >> All right. So, Southro Bridge schedule, uh, this something we've talked about before and I saw the what you sent out, you know, before and, you know, you and I talked a bit bit of a concern that I

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know they talking about doing it in two phases because the other option was to, and I can't recall the length of it. If they did it in one fell swoop, they would want to close South Road and use a detour. And I don't know if they did in one fell swoop. Is that a two-day thing,

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a four day thing, a oneweek thing, or they didn't even I don't even know if they defined that. >> Uh [clears throat] they they didn't they did not >> define that. Um when we talked to them even early on, I mean, from the

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beginning, uh closing that road down um just wasn't an option. Just to tell people, I mean, the the detour is going through the unimproved road at the end of South Road, coming out in Connecticut, and then circling back on Summers basically, right?

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>> Yeah. I want to say seven miles, maybe 20 minute or more deep >> and not a good road >> and not Yeah, that that road is is in awful shape, >> right? >> Um, so from the beginning that and and not to mention it just wouldn't be fair to, you know, our residents on South at

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South Ridge. Um >> the bulk of the residents are on the other side. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Uh so, you know, with that being said, um they wanted to break, you know, so they bid on they actually bid on um a two-phase project.

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>> Uh first phase beginning roughly in two weeks, two and a half weeks, uh mid August. >> Um wrapping that phase up towards the end of November.

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taking the winter off, which you know is always kind of a a gamble. I mean, we don't know how long the winter's going to last or when they come back to work, >> but I think it was I think they had it back to, you know, back to work in the

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spring for phase two um mid-Marchch, which again is who knows where we would be weatherwise, >> right? Weather dependent, right? and then wrapping up um miday wrapping phase two up in midmay.

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>> So starting in August, finishing in May and my concern was that they were going to be talking a fourmonth gap weather dependent at least a four-month gap where what I was told by the guy at VHB

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>> they would leave it in a one lane configuration over the winter. Yes. >> Yeah. >> And I don't know if they use signals. Do they put signals up for that or just it's visual? >> This would be This would not have electronic signals. It would just be

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visual. >> Stop sign. >> Yeah. >> Uh >> and >> it's not font span, you know. So >> So it's b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b based on people like, okay, you go, I'll go. And the buses come down, you better move. >> Yeah. Or stop, you know.

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>> Or the plow truck coming. So, and I had a conversation with Mark about this. This doesn't seem to be the most optimal thing for the town, both from the traffic standpoint, from our plowing, etc. Things like that.

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Are there options? And I asked Mark to look into why don't they shift phase one to next year and do them back to back? I mean, maybe we don't need to start this thing in in August, you know, make phase one March and phase two May.

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So, you were going to reach out. I don't know if they gave you an answer and see if there's any. >> Um, [clears throat] so yes, this afternoon I did reach out to our contact at Northern. He did get back to me. He said it is it is an option and he was going to check with the operations team.

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Um, then I was on the phone with with uh Matt Houston from BHB just to we had some other stuff to go over, but was talking to him about it and uh you know he said this isn't uncommon to to break for the winter for a few months and then

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you know um pick up in the spring. Um, some concerns that I had put in the email were stuff like, you know, now rearranging the schedule two weeks or so before we're about to start. Um, how that would kind

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of affect things. Um, cost of materials if we push off another six months or would be maybe a little bit longer. Um, how would that affect cost of materials? >> Well, why wouldn't they just buy the materials? I mean, I assume where are

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they staging all this? Do they make arrangements with the local? >> As far as I know, the pre-cast stuff is going to be is going to be made, you know, prior to >> um but they wouldn't stage it. They

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wouldn't stage it like at their yard. They wouldn't be able to keep it at the concrete. >> Well, that's what I mean. Would it be like what they did for the water project where they made arrangements to stage everything on the Ottabon property or something like that? >> I mean, that's something we'd have to

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we'd have to talk about. Matt had leaned towards he had leaned towards um continuing on with the schedule and you know and I'll I'll say you know I mean if if that's

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the case we'll work around it but um yeah I that would be a concern of mine is just different you know right we've seen we saw it happen at the beginning of this project how the longer things went on uh through no fault of our own.

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Prices just kept jumping up. We're seeing that happen now with the fire station. So, that's a I mean, that's a real concern. Uh, I think maybe if you know we try to change it now that would Oh, and then there's contractual whatever

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contractual obligations or timelines or dates that >> we'd have to change or, you know, >> so they weren't they weren't like jumping up and down saying, "That's a great idea, Mark. We'll do everything next year." >> No, they Well, they he didn't he didn't really he didn't really come off either

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way. um just he just said it is an option. Let me check with the operations team and see what they say. >> And I didn't you know >> well if they weren't dismissing it out of hand that's great. I mean that's something Yeah. >> right? >> But um

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>> if they got free now they got free time in August they can do Laughing Brook instead. >> Well that's the other and that's what I mean about their schedule. they've, you know, they've got this planned for mid August through end of November. >> Yeah. >> And now all of a sudden, you know, um I

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feel like uh I understand points on both sides. >> I do too. It's I mean, I'm just surprised. Three months for phase one. I will say that I >> I will be reaching out to to Chief Bruno

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um to see if we can use um Brian had suggested putting our the electronic sign out on South Road um probably by this week, the end of this week or next week. I'm not sure that's up and running, but I'll talk to you >> later about it.

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>> Give the residents some notice if if we are going to keep the schedule. >> Trying to think where you position it. right at the V maybe or >> well um we were given permission to use a little piece of I I don't know the gentleman's name. He was very nice when we were out there having a meeting. You

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know the house that's on the point >> Edo's old house. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um >> that's I mean at the point there >> on the left um there's like a little field area and you know it's not very big but I think it's a a good spot we could put the electronic sign. uh you

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know at least give some forewarning or something on our Facebook and stuff like that just to >> you know >> Mark do you know they provide any electronic signage for that too >> sometimes they can allocate a trailer for the entire project so >> that wasn't included uh in in the bid

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but >> last a few days bring it back to us so it's something we could always rent one too I mean to get the word out kind of an early warning message to the residents. >> Yeah, like I said, I didn't know if they were like making arrangements with the

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Burnses or any of the people around. Hey, can I use some of your, you know, staging plan or whatever? >> Yeah, it's going to be tough as it is now. We probably have some stuff staged at our yard. Maybe um maybe up at uh Machog is that the Machog Mountain

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area parking area. um perhaps at the the transfer station out of the way, you know, way out of the way. So, >> well, I don't want to be dismissive of I mean, we're getting the thing for free, that's got to come for something. So, we can certainly, you know, accommodate

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them as long as it's good for the residents. I was only concerned because it just seemed like over the whole winter and we got to keep it down to one lane because they can't finish it. Right. >> How about [clears throat] in back of the old townhouse the parking lot just

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staged up there >> if that's you know if that's something that's okay with >> certainly close enough and and every you know I mean I don't want it to turn into a scrapyard or you know you know >> Oh no no but it sounds like they've got some concrete abutment they want to like stage there makes sense easy to get

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that's okay with it's not being used the land is there and it's real close Right. >> Small rental fee. >> Yeah. >> So that's where that is >> on that. Okay. Um,

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>> Mil Road Bridge, Mil Road Bridge. Uh, the last we did I did get an email uh I think they were going to be reaching out uh on scheduling, but they I think they had they had awarded the contract to a to a

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um you know a construction company. And Brian, do you remember was that this was it? No, I think it was in the spring. I have to double check, but they did send something out. It's it's something that's going to happen relatively quick.

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Um it's a streamline a very streamlined program that that they're doing. Um and >> so this just be clear, this is the bigger bridge, not the little bridge by Gary's house. >> Correct. >> Right. And what what are they doing to

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it? Unless I heard the problem we had, they had a hole in the deck that you fixed. >> Yeah. And that was fixed all, you know, per mast. Um, this is I I can look and get back to you, but it was, you know, a new

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probably a new deck, a new there was a list of of things that don't really that doesn't really need to be to be done, but we were selected >> and you tell them Milro Bridge is over on Main Street down by

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name it >> signs. >> Yeah, right. [laughter] >> Yeah, I know. Um, let me double check on that email. And there was something a couple weeks ago that came through. I just can't remember. >> Yeah, I thought they thought they were getting pitched by the region.

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>> Oh, no. I guess work for the MO Bridge is um approach sidewalk repairs, localized deck repairs, bridge rail repairs, sub repairs, steel repairs. >> Another sidewalk from nowhere to nowhere. >> Exactly. like Rocka Dundy.

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>> Yeah. And we just fixed that last year. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, >> I won't even bother asking about Rocka Dundy. That's >> I haven't heard anything on that. Um last I knew they were still pre 25% design and

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>> and that one started before these two. >> That was uh >> before these two 19. >> Yeah. >> So, and Main Street Bridge >> and the one we want done. Yeah. >> Um I did receive correspondence back from Mass D. They they need me to uh

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clarify a few things on our application. >> Okay. >> But it's in and it's being looked at. Um, I'm going to go on Grant Central tomorrow, see what it is they need >> from me, make those edits, and then, you know, hopefully, and so that was entered

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as a, you know, that was submitted as a small bridge grant with the help from uh, Matt from VHB. Yeah. >> Okay. And our thought with that was we were going to go for the bridge basic repair, but not the expansion per the

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MVP program. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Okay. >> To the >> because that was going to be well over the amount of the small bridge program. >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> But we could do the repair for probably in their under their 1 million if they allow that. >> I believe so. Yes.

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>> All right. Great. >> Yeah. As opposed to I think it was 4.4 million or something. >> There was some What was it, Don? Three to four range. Yeah. >> Well, we just had a hundredyear storm today. How was any flooding at that uh bridge? No. Okay. Thank you.

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Oh, great. All right. So, I've asked Mark to stay for the next thing. Uh, Academy Hall. Well, >> hi Herb. >> What's up? >> Sup? >> Move up.

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Come on. >> Oh, I can see you. You're fine. Okay. Speak loud. So, uh, Mer reached out to me. There was a problem with the well and the water supply at Academy Hall. He met with Linda and I'll hand it to you.

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>> No, he verbally met with her. >> So, what's going on? >> So, they got the pump burnt out. Um the well wasn't working. Um so it um so I replaced the pump. I replaced

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the pump in in Academy Hall. >> Oh, so it's not a submersible pump. It's a pump inside. >> Okay. side go by the well. Um, so we replace the pump in there. I did that myself. Um, we can't purge the lines. So when I

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called the well company said the foot valve in the well or the foot valve in the location of that pump >> or the the weld itself that was gone. It was it was bad. >> So you can't get a prime at all. >> You can't prime it. can't do anything.

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The pump was definitely burnt out. Um, it ran for hours and hours, probably a couple days, right? No water going through it. >> Um, so Connecticut, well, I know Tom fairly well. So, I called him, asked him

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what his ideas were. He definitely can't private like good. The foot valve's gone. >> So, I asked him, you know, come up and look at it. He's going to meet me tomorrow morning just verify, you know, that's what it is. He did give me a

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price of, you know, between 1,500 to $2,000 to replace it. Um I didn't even mark today. Um that's included us digging it out. So I did go to I went to the health department, got the um the

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the layout where the well is. So I'll mark that out. Um, >> where is in the front left or >> so? Front. Yeah, front left. >> It's like six or six feet off the building. >> Yeah. >> I think the sephic is in the front right. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. So, um I recommend that we just put the foot pump in there, but the $2,000 >> and use uh you're volunteering some labor from your people to help >> Yeah. >> excavate. Yeah. >> Great. >> Well, it'll be darn hours. >> Yeah. But I mean you got other projects

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but this will be something done. >> I want with Mark because that that would save us quite a bit of money having >> sure. All right. So um time frame because I know historical society typically runs

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programs during the summer. Um is there something next two three weeks? >> Yeah. So I did talk to her today. She's concerned at that in a month she does have a program coming up. Mhm. >> Um, so I will get on this as soon as, you know, I just want to let you guys know what's going on, our

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recommendations to forward with it. So, she's going to get a new, she got a new pump, obviously, and that's it. Check out that, you know, check out that flip valve. That's just a case. We'll get that. >> All right. Now, expense wise, obviously,

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we have a maintenance fee account for Academy Hall. It's refreshed right now, so there's more than enough to take care of it. It will impact us down the road after we get through. Typically, we receive the electric bills during the uh you know, running during this the

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winter, but right now we don't need anything extra for you got more than enough money to take care of. I think it's in [clears throat] the $45,000 range in the >> She did talk to me today about it. It's told that the money was going to come out of that. Yeah. But now,

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you know, just so we get that up and running. still going. I'm logged in as a co-host. >> What happened? >> Zoom dropped, but I'm logged in as a co-host, so it's still going. >> Okay, Eric, any questions?

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>> No questions. You guys covered it all. Thank you. >> All right, great. Let's make it Oh, hang on a second. >> Yes, Mr. Plaster. >> Thank you. What about the other people that are being serviced by that well?

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>> Different different well. This is a well that's only supplies academy hall. It's not the one in the back corner of the building. >> Yes. No. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> And obviously the amount of water that building uses has to be pretty darn

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minimal. You know, only during the, you know, spring, summer, toilet, one faucet. Yeah. All right, great. >> Super

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uh water district hookups for help. John, we're good. Mark, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Spring to your feet there. That was nice. Yeah. John, you want to come up and give us a

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Oh, >> well, let me get John out of here. Let's just quickly Yeah. Okay, that done. Let me just Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, uh, thanks for coming. I was glad to see you moving around pretty well. >> Thank you. >> Uh, how we doing with the water district

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at this point? >> Basically, it's done. >> Everybody that signed up is hooked up. >> Yes. And uh and just as a side note, that incident that happened out in Minnesota with the hacking of the water system

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>> is nothing we have been concerned about >> because you can't get at the controls for the internet. >> Okay. >> Just thought that's worth mentioning. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. So our other concern is this is something you know I'll kick it over

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to to Don about the uh >> the people who have not hooked up. >> People who don't want to hook up refuse to hook up. >> How many are there? >> I guess can't five maybe. >> Brian, didn't we have some kind of five

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to seven? I want to say seven. >> Really? >> Five. Okay. And the issue we have there is that are we still responsible for the testing? >> According to a meeting last AP, we have to require we would continue to be

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required to test private wells in and around the landfill and the landfill as long as any private wells exist within their defined area. >> Can we there's an opportunity to revise the defined area down the road based on

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results? Maybe. >> I thought I heard that. That's almost >> my take was that would be a that would be a >> case by case >> multi-year process. >> Yeah. It's not going to happen. They were not willing to >> you know redefine it a couple months ago

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when you're meeting with them. >> Okay. So, homeowner A does not want to hook up. He's eligible to hook up now. Homeowner A says, "I don't want to hook up. I don't want you to do this.

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We keep testing their property. >> Yep. >> And three years from now they get a hit be fast. It goes past the limit or whatever. Then are we required to have hook them up?

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>> Yes. He would say yes >> and pay for it. >> Y >> I thought that was the purpose of this. It's like if they don't hook up now, they would pay for hookup in the future. This is their one chance to for the town to pay for it.

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>> If it's a if it's a pollution situation from the pound landfill, we're responsible. >> That's my understanding as well. If it's because someone's well breaks or something happens with a well and they want to look up, then it's a different

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story. And it's not driven by a safe safety issue. They're responsible. >> Now, do we have what are they called? Curb stops. >> Yes. During the construction phase, they

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put curb stops on every house and so that expense >> that's taken care of. >> Take care of and we don't have to worry about cutting the strip. >> But but the pipe from the curb stop to the house, the whole thing, right? If it's a situation with a town landfill,

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we have to pay for it. Like you just pointed out earlier, well, excuse me, the well goes downhill, they have to pay for it. I I still get back. I thought for instance, we had that one situation where someone did not want to get hooked

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up and to hook them up because of the topography, the brooks, etc. We were talking it could be 10 $100,000 to hook them up >> easily. And we were giving them one opportunity to say yes. And if they two years from

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now they said we changed our mind now it's on you because we had you had your chance. We've been testing and I thought this gave we were talking about some language that allowed us to put it on them. here's your offer. And I

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really thought that was the purpose of this that we could and we talked about even an amendment. >> I I mean I've heard that discussed. I just I just >> I thought that was the part of this >> that would be the legal outcome of that

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situation. >> Really thought that's what Dan was talking about really that this is how we can get out that here. We've offered them that and to like say we got a whole $100,000 in the bank and 150 next year

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and 200 the following year that okay now I changed my mind you had your chance we gave you the opportunity >> that's that's not my understanding of Steve's position and >> in fact they were even talking about

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requiring those people that chose not to hook up requiring them to hook up no questions asked >> which would be fine we were ready for that you But now they're forcing the town to spend thousands of dollars every year on

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testing. Honestly, for no good reason. Well, if I could get a waiver, even if they say, "Okay, we do an annual testing rather than a quarterly testing,"

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we could we could deliver that easier. But then you create a history and say for the last five years we've never seen indication of anything. >> We would like to eliminate the testing. >> Right? And as Brian said that was

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discussed but it would take a period of time before it would be entertained. Right? Even though we may have right now eight quarters of history showing still MD at this time. >> All right.

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>> All these houses are aren't showing any positive tests. >> I believe I want to say one or two of them have a history of detects >> right but exceeding the threshold.

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>> Now what's the threshold? Now, I saw one thing when we mentioned the town one here. Oh my gosh, it was at 10. [clears throat] But I thought the limit was still 20 because EPA had never done anything about changing it to four. >> My understanding is the limit still 20

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PPT, but mass EPA will will require uh will increase their frequency of required tests. >> Okay. Not remediation, but testing. Okay. All right. There was so you said there was a possibility down the road of reducing

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the frequency of testing if we had a history of we could always apply for can we go down to bianual or sorry >> twice a year >> they never agreed to that. >> No but they said is you can always make that argument for it. >> Sure.

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>> Yes. Okay. Okay. The project's closed out at this point. >> Yes, it is. >> Okay. How you doing with your third person? >> Wait. >> He He just walked in. >> Thank you. Thank you, Chief.

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>> He doesn't know yet. Thank you very much for volunteer. >> I volunteered for nothing. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> All right. >> No. >> Perfect job for your dad. Your mom be happy out of the house and

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get it out of the transportation. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thanks, John. Seeing you. >> Okay. Joint meeting recap. >> A good time was had by all. We thank him

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for their the host of the meeting and we'll turn it over to Don for your thoughts first and then Eric. >> Well, if you have anything to share. >> I have what I have to share is that what was spoken about at the meeting. My

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understanding was at the at the end of the meeting that we had several questions we're going to ask. they were going to ask frame with some questions, right? And apparently they never did that because the school committee has approved a

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proposed amendment that we did not see until the day we went to the school committee meeting and they voted on it. And quite frankly, it's a mess >> because they spend too much time talking about

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the current middle school >> and I have no desire for Hampton to be involved in the transfer of the middle school or the property of the middle school or ownership of the middle school to the region. That's not our we don't own the building. We don't own the

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property. Why wouldn't we be why wouldn't be involved in in the transfer of that land? >> There was one thing that the language that bothers me I just don't Wolverhead Middle School will be converted to a district-owned property.

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No, it won't. Wolver Middle School, in my opinion, will be eliminated and a new middle school will be installed. Maybe it's on that property and maybe it's at miniature, but I don't see one's being converted to the other because say it's

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being relocated, then it's not being converted. The application to the pro core program is for a regional middle school, not converting the current one to it. It's taking my middle school out of

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service and installing a new regional. That to me sums it up better. >> Does. Okay. But what if the core program says we will we'll pay for you to totally renovate the current Wilberham Middle

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School and put They ain't going to say this. >> No. No. But that's to me that's like a new building. >> Yeah. And put four, >> you know, 10 classroom. Add 10 class. >> That's a new building. >> That's a new building. >> Yeah. and they're going to have to sell that land to the region and now it's a

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new thing. >> I don't think that's high on the list. >> Yeah. >> But >> and also and one one other kind of point um and again I don't know the pro 100% of the process but don't the people of Wilberham have a say so and what happens

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to that school if it's their you know town own property and allow we're just going to give it to the region. Um I would think that the residents would probably have something to say about that on the Wilberham side. Yeah, that's a town meeting vote for them. >> Sure. I mean, honestly, it's real property for them. It's a huge capital

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item, and I'm sure they're not going to say it goes to the region for a dollar. >> Agreed. >> Of which we'd have to pay 20%. So, I I just >> chapter D is not It's just >> We also don't want to be in the situation where they build we build a

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new middle school on the miniatur property. And if you read this, the old middle school becomes the regional school too. And now we're now we own a vacant building, >> right? And now it's all confusing, right? Yeah.

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>> We don't want to do that. >> No, the E part, you know, the capital the capital cost part. And I thought Don, you gave a good recap of that. It's

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a minor amount. It's certainly I think they've really come down from the millions needed to keep the building running to a fairly reasonable amount for the first year. What was in the 80 range? >> Yeah. >> But I go back to my point in the meeting. Okay. Thanks for getting it

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down to 80. You got a $60 million budget. You can't find 80 grand somewhere. Maybe you don't get that plow truck. I'm just, you know. >> Yeah. >> Right. So that part was like I think they did a good job of getting the pencil out and the eraser, but now that

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you get it down so much and then you got this undefined, as Donna has been saying, maintenance account that maybe there's a little extra in there that could be towards now you got that 80 down to like 35 because the undefined maintenance part paid for part of it.

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>> Yeah. You have 105 >> for the contingency or whatever. >> You have $105,000 in the maintenance account. We've asked several times, what are you going to use it for? And >> they say if something comes up, well, >> what if nothing comes up?

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>> Yeah. If you know, you put $105,000, you must have some idea you want what you're going to do with it. Fix two doors. I don't know. >> Buy a new stove for the for the cafeteria. I don't know. We got five

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here. I don't know. just you know what are your suggestion you come up with some wording I don't like it by the way >> it's fine if he gets paid anyhow [laughter] >> you like the opio >> so so what I heard at the joint meeting

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was that the amendments to the regional agreement should should set a framework from from this point forward for the towns and the district to establish regionalized legal school that

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serves grades >> six through eight and it will be a district owned building >> and of concern to Wilberham and Hampton was how are we going to share the costs for planning design uh construction

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and then to future capital costs going forward once the building is set that's that's what my understanding of or that's what I think the point of this amendment should be to lay out the frame framework. >> But how is that framework different than what we went through 10 12 years ago for

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miniature? >> I think it is. >> I mean you have a reason we aortioned it. Yeah, >> all the costs associated were based on now there were some times about I think there was something about when you did the number you know like

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okay we're going to call it this this year sets the number you know for the feasibility or whatever you know you don't recalculate every year or something like that but that's minor you know I think that part is d has nothing

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to do with that conversation And the part about I don't even know if the application for the new middle school to why that would need to be in the regional agreement. Why is it got to be in there? We have

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part of the regional agreement that talks about costs associated with regional structures already. And if we're concerned about the application process, you could put that in a cotil something like that or whatever. But it doesn't need to be part of the

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regional agreement because it wasn't before and everything worked out fine for Menitar >> because as I pointed out at the meeting that the regional agreement currently says if you build a new school >> Mhm. >> it's it's already in there,

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>> right? That's my point. And if you know take option B and the state says, "Okay, you're going to build a new school on the side of the other one." In my opinion, that's a new school. It's a new structure. The renovation of that building is going to be so severe. It's a new structure.

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>> Yeah. And >> and we're not going to hear back on that in for a year and a half. >> Right. So, so, so there's a timing in my opinion, there's a timing problem, right? >> One is when when does the the school building committee or whoever's going to make

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that decision, when are they going to make that decision? Whether it's a new building on in child property, new building uh the current middle school property, maybe it's a renovation and expansion of global middle school. We don't know that yet and we likely won't know that till after the feasibility

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study. >> Point of a feasibility study is to look at these various options and figure out cost benefits of each and >> pros and cons of each and present that who's going to make the decision. In my opinion, putting anything in the original agreement now about all these

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different scenarios >> just it just clouds the issue right now. My opinion is we need to figure out how to cost and maybe it's already in there. We need to figure out how to share the costs of from where we are now to, you know, through the core program.

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Um, but it it it the current language is is really hyperfocused on the Wilberham Middle School building. I think that's one of one of the biggest >> Brian. >> Yeah, Brian, I I I totally agree. I mean, um, all of the a lot of these decisions and a lot of this language is

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bent is completely based on speculation. And until we have cold hard facts about what exactly is being done, no changes should be made in my opinion. >> Um, um, certain there's certain language that could be cleaned up. If they really want to do that, okay, sure you can clean up some language. As far as in

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regards to the Wolver Middle School, there's everything is based on speculation at this point and it's there's to your point, it just doesn't make any sense to to put it in until there's a decision that's being made. And I know it's been kind of thrown back to say, hey, well, you know, if we don't

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have this language in, we might risk our our um you know, our chances of getting into the you know, getting you know, getting a new school. And I I don't think that that is the case. both boards and both towns have have you know both boards have have expressed their support

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um that's where we're at and um we continue to express our support and that has been known. So I think that you know if there needs to be a little bit of language in there you know about that but I again I think that's kind of getting off the the beaten path but I I agree with you Brian it's it's kind of a

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a little bit of hodgepodge because there's too much information about future that we don't know yet. >> Bit of a red herring on their part. I think it's just Yeah. And it's distracting the whole thing. Here we are now spending a meeting talking about this when this wasn't even on the radar

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and not necessary if you will. So, um, where we go back to them is now we're talking we're supposed to have a group meeting between what Sean, our people, their people, the three lawyers if you will.

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Is that >> I thought we No, but we talked about that being a thing. >> We authorized, if you will, >> joint meeting, it was um we had asked the attorneys to look at several things.

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>> Okay. >> I don't know the name of the war attorney. I know Sean Sweeney is the district attorney. He's been there for many years. And I assumed there was going to be probably John involved, Nick involved, and yourself as well. or not John or maybe Doug or whichever.

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Yeah. Do you know do you know if they asked the question I about four 4D2 in the current agreement says all capital costs incurred after those incurred in connection with the

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school bonds issued November 1st 1970 whether or not incurred in connection with construction of an addition of the remodeling or of making extraordinary repairs to set initial school building which would be Benog or additional school buildings

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or incurred in connection with the construction of additional school building shall be a portion here and provided which is that the split so it says there that the region there's already a paragraph in there saying

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>> it should although but should the word region be in that thing I mean unfortunately it's a little ambiguous when they say school building >> yeah but but will >> it's all about regional buildings I know >> yeah the context the context. Yeah. >> A portion of capital cost

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>> for the region. >> I mean it's already in there if if you're going to build a new building a reg new region building >> the course already in there. So I I guess my point is what the same as John and Eric are saying is this whole business of transferring the middle

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school and all the other stuff is superolous to the >> right >> to what we're trying to get done. >> Yeah. Right. You're adding [clears throat] language in there that does nothing for this and it actually from it lawyer. >> Yeah. All right. So that's our point. So

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>> let's let's say pretty clear I think >> on a quick read. It seems to say that >> right that the that the region region builds a new school which this would be then the cost a portion according to the

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population the student population >> g what a shock >> the way it's been for how long >> 1970 yeah >> that's what propose for deletion >> I asked that question why would you delete that that's solves the

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We'll be a middle school. We don't It's not our problem. We don't own it. We don't own the property. >> Mhm. Mhm. So the regions, my point was the region applied to the core program [clears throat] for a new middle school.

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So that would be covered in that section. All capital costs incurred after those incurred in connection with the school box issue. >> All right. So when we have this when you have that joint meeting I think the Eric the opinion of this board is that we

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don't see uh the change for D being relevant to what we want done for a regional agreement. >> Agreed. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Good. Good work. >> Right. This is you only I think I

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abstained of Mountain View. >> Oh. Oh yeah. Oh, we already approved this, right? >> Yeah. We They got the Yeah. >> This the ABC, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Did they come back or are they all set?

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>> Yeah, that's why it's there. >> Oh, okay. >> We don't have to vote it again. >> Subject. It was subject to >> Okay. All right. Um, new transfer station substitute attendant. Don, you've interviewed this person.

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>> No, but Brian and Li did they recommend him? >> Check the whole set. >> Yep. >> Eugene D'Angelo on call reserve transfer station

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attended. >> So moved. Second. All in favor? >> I >> I Okay. All right. >> Welcome aboard, Eugene. [laughter] He gets a shirt, too. When are we getting shirts? Come on. Nothing.

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>> Oh, kid. >> We got a piece of tape on our lapel. That's about it. All right. Uh, >> okay. >> I'm just going to move right to 7:25 because I know the chief has some packing to do. >> What does he want?

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has got the student officer agreement. I can't even see your leg. >> Yeah, please. You know, please. >> I don't you need any commentary from me on this, but if you do, I'm here. >> So, we're paying the student officer. We

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need short commentary. >> Short commentary. That is an agreement between the town and the student officer so that if they decided to leave the employee of the town uh she would be liable for fees associated with the

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academy and uniform and equipment. >> Okay. And P goes on the payroll at the time she enters the academy. >> Yeah. Day one of the academy she starts on the payroll. >> Okay. >> We had gone back and forth with some

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language on this. We've had agreements like this in the past. Um although it's been quite a while, other cities and towns have been doing this more frequently and some do a year, three years, five years, depends on the city or town. So we

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adjusted the language a bit just to accommodate the new academy uh policy. They do have a refund policy >> within the first several weeks if the the recruit officer leaves. So >> that takes that into account. >> All right. Um, what's the academy?

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You're still looking at November. >> September 21st start date. Graduates about midFebruary. As of today, when I looked, um, they have their all of the recruiter will have their PT test

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entrance exam this Thursday. Uh, and I believe it looks like they have about 40 seats filled. They typically lot 60 and it's it's now it's starting to fill up quickly, which is what I anticipated. So it's they will they will have it full I'm

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sure before the start date. >> Okay. So and so basically you'll have an unfilled position for the first two and a half months of the fiscal year. >> No halfway to that cruiser that payroll. >> Yeah. >> But we returned quite a bit of money to

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the town this year. >> That was last year. That was last year's money. Last year's money. >> Get that get you that new Prius. That'll be nice. >> What have you done for us today? >> I I defer Mr. Davis over those kind words.

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All right. So, we approve approval of the Venic Police Student Training Academy fee reimbursement agreement. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Hi. >> Wow. >> I do also thank the chief. Uh chief was

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scheduled to go on vacation today and due to obviously the the weather event that we had, he put it off and stayed in town. And you know, that just kind of shows why we put our our trust in you because we knew you were that kind of like that kind of person. We thank you.

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>> The work had to be done. >> Don't you donate that day of vacation back to us. Thank you so much. Same still counts as a vacation day, right? >> Yeah. Right. I mean, every day here is a vacation. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> We can change that.

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>> You lost it. No, you lost it. >> You work with us. It's like a vacation. >> Yeah. >> Or not. So once that's signed, if have uh her sign that at any point,

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she's still working in town on Wednesdays uh with her current employment. So I can have her come in here and put her >> You're pretty sure you can get her in the academy. No problem. You said filling up, but she's already >> No, she already has the seat. >> Okay, great. >> No, she has the seat secure and now she just has to pass her

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pre PT test. >> Excellent. >> And then she will be ready to go. >> Okay. getting her equipment. >> Okay. Um it is August. Uh we will be talking about dates for communing warrant articles. So we will be having that discussion with you probably when

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you return about where we stand with the fleet and what our needs are going to be. >> Very good. >> Okay. >> Very good. >> So if you find some cheapo ones, I know you don't. >> Okay. Sure. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. Have a good night. Have

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>> the vacation. >> Thank you, Dan. All right, grant application updates. Brian, thank you for this uh nice update here. Look at all this money coming in. Money, money, money, money. So, we've

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been awarded uh $19,200 for from the casino mitigation fund and that's targeted for old townhouse reuse planning. >> Yep. small bridge program as Mark talked about before for the South Row Bridge over Ballard Brook.

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Remember Ted Ballard? Great guy. Put it near my parents. Uh funding for the accelerated infrastructure repair program, the fair program for Mill Road to be determined. So, we don't know how much it's going to

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be, but we're anticipating that the grant will be like a small bridge grant hopefully covering the whole thing. So, we will have no contractual relationship with the contractor. They're going to be hired by Mass to do >> and pay all the bills. >> And pay all the bills. >> So, you're asking for zero dollars.

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>> Approve the scope of work. >> Yep. >> We approve zero dollars. Land conservation assisting grant assistance grant to update the open space and recreation plan formally chaired by Joe Zeno. Right Joe?

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Right. >> Okay. But now we're going to need somebody else to hono that through at some point, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, are these uh

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spent in in anticipation reimbursement typically? >> Yes, those four are well, not the fair program. >> No, but I mean the the other ones, >> even the small bridge. >> Yep. Oh, so we got to kick out the million

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dollars and then the state will pay it back really on the small bridge. >> It won't be all at once, but it'll be monthly reimbursements. Monthly payments to the contractor. Monthly reimbursements. >> Okay.

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>> All right. So then we've got uh you're going to be submitting shared streets and spaces potential pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure improvement. Obviously Mark talked about another small bridge application for Laughing

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Brook Bridge or Main Street Bridge over Eastbrook officially. They update the hazard mitigation plan which hadn't been done since 15 07 and then 15 or something like that. Yeah. Yep. Last couple times PVPC helped us

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with that, I believe. >> Yeah. So, this there's there's a lot of federal funding available right now through the municipal and traffic technical assistance program, but they actually reached out um um Cal from the Collins Center actually reached out and they were actually

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trying to spend the money. It just so happens that our mitigation has expired. So, it's a good match. >> Okay. Then, >> the PBPC has availability to help us. Good. Good. And all the records from last time. Good. >> I believe it needs to be done by

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October. So, it'll be a tight timeline book, but >> it would at least they got all the files from before. So, that's going to help. Yeah. >> The importance of the updating hazard mitigation plan, the the OSRP, those types of things that it makes us eligible for other types of grant programs where >> I have to say I remember working on that

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back in ' 07. It shocked me how the bridges you don't realize they're on scanic all the and the dams how many dams there are right now on private property etc. So um federal earmark request for the Hampton fire station.

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Okay. We did not get the green infrastructure at town hall improvement. >> Huh. >> Yeah. We So so we just found out about that yesterday. That was to design. So the storm water permit requires us to do a demonstration project. We were trying

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to get design funding to do the I know rain gardens very layman's term but um on the property here but they didn't want to fund that. So >> okay it wasn't high priority. >> All right. Green communities.

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>> Green communities. Also what was the god what's the name of the program I told you about that as me was using for their sidewalks? Complete streets. >> Complete streets. >> So where we're stuck with complete streets is complete streets is is uh implementation funding. It's not design funding. So we need a design project

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for complete streets. And a barrier previous to that was we needed to have a complete streets prioritization plan which they now done away with that requirement. >> So we would get more credit if we have one. It's not necessary. But a lot of communities are are putting sidewalk improvements and things like

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>> Well, you say the east told me that's where and you go through there, you see they're putting, you know, concrete sidewalks in everywhere and they're getting that money from that. >> But we need to plan first before applying. >> Okay. And is there any other grant that

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would pay for the design? >> Um, a tip thing or something like that? We go back the tip projects and we go back to >> Bob was so close to getting the main street sidewalk done >> except it didn't get signed by the governor.

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>> Um we talked about what would happen the sidewalk down Allen Street. The problem there is going through the Summers Road part. You know the Allen Street part wasn't that bad. I'd almost say forget going through the Summers

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Road part. I'd like to see the loop Allen Street down to Raymond Drive back past the town hall. You know, that would be a great loop right there. I don't know, Eric. I don't know what you think about the Raymond Drive part, but >> Well, in walking down Raymond Drive, the

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only obstacle that I would see is all the all the the power lines are on that side of the road, which would have be >> the closest the town the town hall side. >> Yeah, the town hall side. So, all the power lines go right down that side. So that would be really really cumbersome

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to try and get sidewalks on properties with poles whether they go before or after that would potentially on the other side of the road and then maybe a crosswalk. I don't know. I'm just that's the only thing I noticed that would be very difficult. Um and walking up and down the street I was like I wonder where those would go because there's

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>> the grant would pay for underground wiring to everybody's house. >> Yeah. Well then sign me up. Yeah. [laughter] >> All right. Uh, good job with the list of grants. I mean, obviously you're searching for them all the time. Anything new coming along? So,

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what is this? Yeah, I'm trying to this one here. Okay, six is done. Uh, special fall town meeting dates and timeline. Brian, I don't see a thing here. So, we

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basic So, two dates. When do we ask for all warrant articles to be in for? And well, first, let's back up. Are we looking for the last Monday of October? >> October. >> 26th. >> 26th. Okay. So, we're saying the 26th.

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One, two, three, four. Uh, four weeks before would be the 28th. 6 weeks before would be the 14th. The 7th is a holiday. So, do we say September 8th or do we say September 14th?

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Six weeks close. So, we need all warrant articles in six weeks before the town meetings. Or do you want even I mean we have to give if committees are submit we have to give them reasonable time to have a a board meeting to come up with a warrant

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article. So if we're saying let's see 20 September 20th be four weeks before the 14th would be 6 weeks before our town meeting date. The 8th would be seven weeks before.

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We could say the eth. >> All right. Fine. >> After Labor Day, right? >> Yeah. Okay. So, we're saying all and Brian's got a staff meeting next week on the 12th and I'll put it out there or even in a email now that the board is

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requesting all warrant articles to be in by the 8th with a a a goal of closing the warrant say the 21st or something like that September because we're not anticipating a 30 motion warrant here.

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We're talking Mike some capital things be taken care of, maybe the regional agreement, which should be the biggest thing on it at this point. We had a couple capital things from town that we pushed off and we need to address. We still have the guns done or something, right?

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>> Yeah. Eric, what do you think? >> Yeah, I agree. I think that's reasonable. >> Okay. All right. So, we'll request all warrant articles be by September 8th. Um and the fall town meeting at this point

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we're putting it out there that it will be October 26th. >> All right. >> You want the the same AB stuff. >> Do we have it in the budget?

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>> We do. >> I don't I don't know what else we would do to be honest. >> Yeah. I mean they're so good. It's just that the cost of Well, if we're going to have the regional agreement, we better have them. >> Yeah. And we're still talking 6:30. When is that? Right.

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>> Okay. Good. >> Let's go to six. Let's just keep pushing it. >> All right. >> Change. >> Yeah, >> that can change. >> All right. Okay. So, I don't even know if that needs a vote. We are setting the uh special No, we do need a vote. take a

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motion to set the date for the uh fall special time meeting for October 26, 2026 at 6 through here or you can drive around back. >> Drive around back. >> We're dead. >> People aren't sure how to get the gym.

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>> Oh, more signs. I'll entertain a motion to set these uh special town meeting for October 26th at 6:30 at the Hland Town Hall. >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Thank you. >> All right. We have a request from the

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town clerk to sign the 2026 state primary warrant. Are we voting for you, Don? >> I know. I have you have I have a question on the warrant on this. Yeah. >> Okay.

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Yeah, we do. We have early voting dates. >> I don't think she's made that request yet. >> Hey, John, do we have Aren't you still on the board registars? >> Have you guys talked about that yet? >> No. >> Okay. Will you be talking about it? >> Yes.

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>> There we go. >> I mean, he just you just can't shut that guy up. Oh, >> motion to approve the request from the uh town clerk for the uh I don't really have much to say about

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it, but the uh Tuesday the first day of September there will be is that the primary primary state primary election? >> No move. >> Second. >> All in favor? I

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>> let's see what day was that? >> The only reason I ask is >> that the 8th? Yeah. Or is that the second? >> The only reason I ask cuz I see other towns are having their early vot starting the 22nd >> and here we are at the 3rd. So

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>> I don't know if there's a posting issue, but I'm sure the clerk has taken care of. >> I think I saw you you filled out three ballots already, haven't you? Just in case. Never know if I'm going to be around in time to do them personal. >> Oh, what's it?

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>> That look there's two signed here. >> H Why Why are you two stickers on there? That's a great question. Are we supposed to sign a couple of these? >> No, it got two stickers on it. Two stickers.

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Like we're both on this side and that side column. >> Yeah. Sign the first column. Okay. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you, Radar. [laughter] Oh, four day pass to Tokyo. Thank you.

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All right. Uh, the gift that never stops giving the North Road. North Road CPA project from I don't know when we start 2015. Well, we're coming up to our 150th anniversary

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>> of this of this. Really? All right. So, we have a purchase and sale for the property. Eric, this predates you and the and the four selectment before you. Um, so we need to vote the purchase and sale

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agreement. We need to authorize a select board member to sign the closing documents and a vote to accept the property deed. I'll entertain a motion for the purchase and sale agreement. So move >> second in

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>> favor. Is this is this is this is this we already the town's already voted on this money, right? >> Yes. >> Several times. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All we did was change the property or something on it. >> I I thank you.

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>> All right. I'll entertain. There you go. I'll entertain a motion to authorize a select board member to sign the closing documents. >> Have that language from town council. >> There [clears throat] was specific >> I do a specific language. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So,

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in connection with the town's vote to acquire the property under its vote at the annual town meeting on May 11, 2026, article 16, the select board hereby authorizes and directs John D. Flynn, chair of the select board, on behalf of the select board to authorize approve and execute a closing statement and

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other such such other incident, certificates, agreements or documents as may be required for the acquisition and to take any other steps or actions necessary to authorize and consummate the closing and acquisition of the property. Not sure about that.

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>> That's beautiful. So moved. >> Second. >> Yeah, I'm not really in a butter. I live way down on North Road, but that it's okay with me. So thanks, Eric. Thanks a lot. I >> All right. And then we have a vote to

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accept the property deed. >> I may I'll entertain a motion to accept the property. I >> I have I have a question. >> Really? >> Do we have to vote to accept the property? Do you see we've given the to the chair authorization to do that?

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>> [clears throat] >> Make a motion. I'll make a motion to accept the property subject to all signatures being in appreciated. >> I have all three. >> Come on, Eric. Make that [laughter]

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>> uh one. Hey, Joe, are you coming or are you being remote? How we going to do >> show >> remote? Okay. All right. All right. So, we got some uh licenses

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because what would a subboard meeting be without the licenses, right? >> All right. So, the VFW, lucky Laura, has requested uh the following one-day

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permits. August 15th, the VFW save our sign fundraiser. Okay. uh from 3:00 to 10:00 on the pavilion and a birthday on October 22nd from 4 to

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11 on the pavilion. We can only assume that this birthday person is over the age. I don't see that on my list here. What are there? was two. >> I see the VFW I see liquor light one

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>> no events events. >> Oh, two events. Okay. Okay. >> Move approval of the VFW proposed events. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I I

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again I am the birthday person. >> We had one one time that requested it for a sweet 16 party and we're like no no okay in the senior center I swear we did this one already but I could be wrong.

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>> Another artisan one. Okay. Uh, Scanic River Artisans interactive learning through art. Happy trees on August 13th from 6:00 to 8 in the great room. Wine only. None of those malt from last. >> No malt.

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>> Obviously happened the last time. >> Thank goodness the chief. >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? We also request for a one-day look license for the pause

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for purpose event at Commercial Drive. What is 28 Commercial Drive? What's located there now? >> The blue All right. So, Affordable Waste is sponsoring a fundraiser for Pause for

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Purpose. It's not cog with the dog hearing. >> Too late. Yeah. And they're requesting a one-day liquor permit, beer only, from 12 noon to 5:00 p.m. on Saturday

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the 26th. They should have those dogs that they these are those St. Bernards with the kegs, you know, running around. >> Are those beer or wine, though? >> It's It's It's Sherry. >> That's right. >> Brandy. It's Brandy. >> Brandy up in the >> I would know. Not that I would know.

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>> Well, we all saw those, you know. >> All right. Uh September 26 from 12:00 noon to 5:00 p.m. at 28 Commercial Drive at the property. >> Um just sign on this application. asks if they're going to be using a tent and

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they did not answer that question. I emailed this guy that pulled out the application asking, you know, how's it going to be contained? You can have a tent. Chief said you should have an officer detail and I have not heard back yet. So, I don't know if we want to hold off on this.

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>> Subject to approval of the police and it's my understanding that the fire chief has to inspect the tent as well. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, pause for purpose, but the proceeds are for breast cancer.

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It seems like an odd name. I thought it was raising money for dogs, but okay. >> Well, they got time. I mean, it's September, but I'm sure they want to do advertising. I mean, I'm subject to both the chief, police chief and fire

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chief uh asserting to building inspector to the town administrator that all is in order. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I guess you know. Yeah, I know.

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So, this one goes in your pocket, Brian. [clears throat] All right. Okay. Oh, thank you. I'd like to report to the board uh the last two weeks we did not have a select board meeting. So, as having been authorized by the board

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before, I did sign the the warrants as submitted by the town treasurer. On Monday, July 20th, I signed three warrants. Warrants 3 AP for a total of $978,3276.

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Warrant 3PR for a total of $84,95012. and warrant 55, the last warrant that finished up FY26 in the total of $30,875.33. >> Wow. >> On Monday, July 27th, 2026, I signed

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warrant 4AP for a total of $43,860.86 86 and warrant 4P PR in a total of $94,438.38. That's my report to the board. Um,

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this kind of brings up a point. We're reporting these amounts into the record. Should we like add the amounts we're signing into our minutes on a normal basis? You know, as an action we took at the beginning of the meeting might be a good idea for people. Yeah.

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Yeah, just put those >> them in. That's as a course value. We signed the warrant for these two amounts. >> What do you think? >> I'd like that. Thank you. All right, that is all the

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open agenda items I can think of at this time. We will have select reports and then we have a posted executive session meeting that we probably will not return to open session from. So that being said, uh I will also report, you know,

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Don and I happened to I don't know I don't know how it was coincidental, but we both walked into the school committee meeting last week. Uh we'll congratulate uh Michelle on serving as chair again for another year. And I think we both

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had an opportunity to share our personal feelings on things at the main. We thank the school committee for allowing us an opportunity to speak. >> I have nothing to report. >> Sheriff, >> I also have nothing to report.

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>> How was the rain down there, by the way? >> Uh, my train was delayed by about 45 minutes because there was some bridge that was supposed to go down that apparently was delayed because of that. Um, wasn't as bad as home, but it was pretty pretty rainy up here all day >> in Manhattan right now.

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Trump Tower. Nice, Ryan. >> Um, just two quick things. One, never ending cable license agreement with Spectrum >> cable still a thing. Okay. >> Yeah. They asked they wanted to do one

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more read of nonsubstantive edits. So, the delays continue. >> That's okay. I've only got three years left of my term. It might I might get it done. >> They might be done by then. [laughter] And then >> I can't name it after me, please.

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>> Is we finally received the second round of uh sampling results for the well here. >> Um and we'll be applying or so UMass has the technical assistance program

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to help public water systems deal with PAS concerns. So there's low levels in the water here. Um, and there is currently an emerging contaminants grant. That's what gives $1 million for the to help pay for the water expansion

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project. Um, so there's there's staff there that can help us submit that grant application if we wanted to to a filtration system. >> So, do we test both wells even though we closed or just >> one well

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>> and it is over the 10? Uh it was right around 10. It did not trip the 20. >> Right. But the 10 is the keep monitoring number, right? >> Correct. >> And did it trip that one? >> Yeah. >> Ah. Okay.

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>> So, >> so we don't have to do remediation. We just have to keep testing. >> Um correct. Uh so the concern so not the concern but the the issue that would arise in the future is if the if the limit is lowered which we did here uh

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prior to the change in the federal administration they were looking at lowering it from 20 PPT to 3 PP. Um, so we're going to explore the possibility of of an additional emergency contaminants grant put in to pay for a filtration [clears throat]

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system here. That money's readily available right now. Uh, currently on on any of the uh water fountains or u bottle fillers that we have, we have filtrate we have the filtration systems

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built to them. Okay. >> How many bottle systems do we have? Is it three? I think there's one for parks, one for library, one for us. >> We have three and all them have filtration units on them. Um, so it's not a concern for us

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currently with drinking water, but if we think if the money is available now and we think there's going to if we think that threshold is going to be lowered, whether it's at the federal levels it >> which I think is a real possibility even if the feds don't um it might not be a

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bad idea to the money's available now >> put it in a large filtration system. >> Right. The only thing would be the ongoing cost for any filter changing etc. >> Right. >> Okay. All right, John. Any comments before we close the

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door? >> All right, sir. I'm going to entertain a motion to go into executive session. [clears throat] >> You have the language. >> Okay. I got I move that the uh Fleckler go into executive session pursuant to

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mass general law chapter 30A section 21A3 to discuss strategy with respect to litigation as an opening meeting may have a detrimental effect on the litigating position of the select board and uh we will not return to executive

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session and the matter concern is a conservation commission enforcement matter. Eric. >> Oh, second. Sorry. >> Okay. All those in favor by name, Jonathan. I >> Davenport I. >> Eric Vanderle and I. >> Okay. Thank you all for attending and

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Joe, you will stay on the meeting somehow. >> Just give us a minute. >> How about Eric? How big was he? doing is kicking everybody else out of the meeting and turning off recording. Well, I'll take that.

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>> Do you do you want to stop and start a meeting and that way you can have a separate recording for you to do minutes?