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Open the meeting for conservation commission for June 17th Jan uh sorry July 15 2026. >> Okay. Um you want to do the minutes first? >> Yep.

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>> Get it out of the way. >> I know you don't have them but we're okay. >> It's all good. >> Okay. in a June 17th meeting. You're going over. All right. Okay, I make a motion to accept the

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minutes from June 17th. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor? >> I >> So you got you want to do uh >> well um first. Wait, 420 Main Street first. >> We could do We could um

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>> do 420 Main Street. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Michelle. >> Hi, Michelle. >> Hi. >> So, Eric and I did go and look at this and it's what five or six dead trees all

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they're not in the 25 foot. I didn't bring the tape measure, but just eyeball. But they are well within 100 foot. But they're all dead. Yeah. >> So, did you put um conditions in her?

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>> Yes, I do. Well, yeah, a little bit. Um for the determination um applicability. Um it was a negative determination. and the work described in the request is within an area subject to jurisdiction under

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the act but will not remove, fill, dredge or alter that area. Therefore, said work does not require filing of a notice of intent and um I believe

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because it really wasn't too much. It was pretty cut dry, >> right? um cutting down four dead pine trees ab budding property of Dana Pixley and one dead tree in the back of 420 Maine. Any brier bushes will be hand cut. The tree

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stumps will remain to stabilize the soil. >> That's what I was just wanted to make sure that was in there. >> Yeah. And Dana did call me and he said he said that if we wanted him at the meeting to say everything was okay, he would come. And I said, "No, no, bother.

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So, um, you're okay with, uh, >> and just >> the butter as well. >> No heavy machinery back there. That's all. >> So, you have to what you have to do is is to vote on issuing um >> Yeah. >> Here, let me get you this. >> Yeah,

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>> I have copies. >> How are they cleaning the trees down? There's no machinery. >> Somebody has ropes. >> You have to vote on issuing a negative like this. here. >> Go ahead.

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>> So, it's a negative determination and then >> this is >> and then there's a page after your signatures. >> All right. You want to make a motion? >> Okay. I make a motion to accept the negative determination

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on uh board 420 420 Main Street. Uh the work described in request is within area subject jurisdiction under the act but will not remove field dredge to the area. Um and you're aware no heavy machinery.

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I'll second it. >> Somebody second that. >> Yeah, I'll second it. All in favor? >> I >> I say >> you can sign. >> I just did. Yeah.

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stealing both. Okay. one of them. Correct. >> Yeah. Let me um I have to check if I can deliver. >> Oh, here. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Oh, I did. I already wrote by hand

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delivery. Okay. Date. 15 2026. Okay. >> Yep. She's she's all set. >> You're all set. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Volunteering.

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>> Thank you for um contacting the Conservation Commission, >> doing it right. >> Yeah, we really appreciate that. >> Have a good night. Why should state goal? >> Okay. What do you got next? Uh, I'm putting all this away.

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Well, we have um National Grid had submitted um an after the after the fact letter on work that they've done. Um, so I'm not going to read the whole letter, but I received this and um, dear members

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of Hampton Conservation Commission and then they're just talking about u maintenance activities completed along Chapen Road, Fairfield Manor, Northview Terrace in Hampton, Massachusetts. And it was completed this past winter 2026.

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Um it was installation of new utility bowls poles, replacement of existing poles, overhead electrical line work and associated tree removal activities required to maintain safe clearance and reliable electrical service. There were they were within the 100 foot buffer to

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bordering vegetated wetland and the 200 foot riverfront area to perennial streams. All work was performed in existing roadway or shoulders. Um and then they just go into the best

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practices and what they did. But it's an after the fact letter that um we just received. >> Yeah. Okay. That was something that we had approved anyway. >> All done. >> Yeah. Okay. We don't have to vote on anything.

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>> No. Now the now the next the next project that uh we have listed is an RDA submitted um for a new gas line at um Echo. >> Well, >> Valley Drive reliability

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uh >> and they gave me several copies. Tom has a copy. >> He's looking at it now. >> You need a copy. Um can you drop this off at Greg's house? Somebody >> Scott

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>> Scott tells >> I am Greg. >> I know. Sorry. >> I am Scott. >> I am. >> Yeah. >> We drop one off at his house for him since he lives on Echo. >> Yeah. >> No. >> Do you mind? >> No.

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>> He said yes, but that's okay. >> He might. Here you go. So, I just I just brought those to the meeting. Um um >> there's maps. >> They filed just this week, so it was way

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too late for this meeting. So, um they're going to they're going to get scheduled for our August meeting. Um unless they need an earlier date like a special. >> So, we should schedule a site visit

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though, just briefly. >> Yeah. Should we wait for them to come to the meeting first before we do that or >> No, because they've already they've already filed the determination the other day. >> Yeah. >> So, if you guys do a site inspection and

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then they come to the meeting, we could possibly have the determination ready like we did for um for 20. I mean, it looks pretty good as far as the plan, what they the um protections that

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they're going to put in. So, we basically just have to go and look at the >> Yeah. >> where the culverts are and wetland area, stuff like that. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Have you all Eric, do you have a copy? >> Yeah. >> And you you guys do?

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>> Well, that's >> And you have one for Scott as well? >> Yes. >> Okay. One more. All right. >> Well, no. I He's got mine >> right now. So, >> but I'll >> Yeah. >> Is there an address for this?

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>> It's okay. It's um all of Wilberham Road from the from the uh Wilberham border up to Echo Valley and then down Kelly and Echo Valley

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about I don't know how long 10 feet. >> Cuz there's gas on this road. I'm just wondering. It's a new main line, so maybe they'll connect to the one that exists. >> Oh, okay.

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>> I think they're replacing the one in this in uh >> Wilberham Road. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, because the the gas line keeps going up past View, which is further down this path. >> View,

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>> right? Mine comes in from the other end. >> So, they're stopping right at E Valley Drive. >> Yeah. I don't know why. So, this is something similar to that they did on Mil Road last year or the year before, right? Yeah.

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>> Yeah. They've been working all around town. >> Yeah. >> Not so much gas, it would be electric, but >> Yeah. Where's the valley? Say

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>> yeah. So maybe about 100 ft from the center of Wilberham Road down Echo Valley. >> That's me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I know exactly where they're going, too, cuz there's two um concrete

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pads that they're at all the time doing work in underground. So, that's probably where it's going to terminate. >> And they're doing the same thing on Kelly's. >> Cool. >> If you're an actual butter, you'll get a notice. >> Okay.

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Look forward to it with great anticipation. So, um, when do we go look at it? I'm pretty flexible except for the first week of August. I'll be gone. I'll leave. I'm like going away next

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weekend. But, so Monday, Tuesday, uh, the following Monday and Tuesday. >> Yeah, Monday and Tuesday I'm during the day. >> Yeah, Monday. Monday I'm good. Okay. We want to meet there. You care what

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time? >> I mean, my son's in camp from 8:30 to 2:30. So, >> okay. Meet there around noon. >> Yeah. >> Just meet at the end of Echo Valley. >> That's Monday the 20th. >> This Monday. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> At what time? >> 12. I'll I'll send the mail out from the student. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I would suggest that whoever is the main person there that you call them.

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>> Yes. Let them know >> and work with that we're doing. Yeah. And if they don't have to go, but >> No, but they should know. >> Yeah. Would that be that guy that you were emailing? >> What? >> The guy that you emailed?

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Uh, what was this? >> Corey. >> Corey. Yes. >> Okay. Corey Nielsen. Yeah. All right. I'll let him know. >> Okay. >> All right. Yeah. Um

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before we get into this other big problem on um Camden Heights, do you want to let us ch? >> Um so yeah, we have resident uh 144 Stony Hall Road here tonight um to

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discuss some expansion plans. So do you want to just give an overview and I'll I'll pull up the GIS so everyone can Yeah. Sure. print outs too. Just like a little easier. If so, uh not entirely sure how this process works. Uh other

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than I know there will need probably need be a site visit 144 Stony Hill Road. Um and essentially I was looking to pull off the back end of our uh our garage extended back a

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bit. There's already an extension that was there. >> Blue box on here. >> Yep. So I added one in and on the back end of the first paper um I I took the I asked for patient >> so back I

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20 ft but it would be the same width as the garage at 22 >> and so currently you can see it was 100 buffer zone uh but it's all within cleared land. It's actually would still be closer to you know between the

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wetlands uh is the well is the well outlet there. So >> are you are you laying a new pad and then extending? Yeah, it would uh you know dig down the trench about six feet down I think is what the requirement is for

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the uh load bearing portion of the concrete presses just to be a slab. So it'll mimic the garage just we'll have that wall still there between two. >> So >> you said your septic is in this area. >> Septic's on the opposite side um on the

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eastern side of the house. I didn't point that out. >> So, the house is here facing kind of that way. The septic's over here. Oh, >> okay. >> The addition would be like right in that zone. But you can see the the garage, the addition.

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>> But your wells over by the >> your walls on the um side where you're going to be doing the work or >> like the for the load bearing. >> Well, yeah. Uh >> well will be on the opposite side. >> It's in here.

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is about there. Okay. Roughly. >> And your house was built I I looked it up. What the 19 >> 95 or 96? >> I don't say 93. 9 1996. >> Yep. The old uh pastor from uh Bethany,

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I think. Yeah. He >> Yeah, I know that. Yeah. >> Yep. He's the one that built it. >> I think I think it probably squeaked in before the river protection act. >> Funny thing is I know that uh >> now I'm drawn a blank all of a sudden.

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Uh I keep want to say Wendle. It's not Wendell. Um uh >> the door. Yeah, it's Wendle. I'm sorry. Yeah. Um he's actually the one who built the home. >> So >> he's pretty familiar with the property as well. So

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>> yeah. So this you said it does fall under the pre96 regulations. >> I think I really think it was built before the Yeah. before the river protection act. >> It didn't say right there. >> So adding on wouldn't

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>> I mean that's why it's so that's why the house is so close. Well, yeah. Right. >> area. >> Most of it. Well, part of it's already in. >> Well, we're adding on. >> How would that affect? >> Adding on to the back, I believe.

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>> Right. >> So, further away. All right. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, the new slab would be six feet deep. Uh um just the uh it's been a while

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since construction. Just the load bearing portion. The slab itself would um would I think needs to be about four to six inches deep. >> Yeah. Right. >> But uh they're not called columns, but it's not going to be solid, but it's actually be direct um with the portion

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between the footers and the and where it comes. >> Foundation. Foundation. Yeah. But there's not going to be like any underground foundation or just a slope. >> Yeah. Okay. You guys want to do a site visit? Yeah. Yeah. >> What's the Is that a wet land right

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there? >> So >> this green portion >> this whole >> surrounded by the buffer. >> This is like a pond right here. >> A pond >> because of the rain. It's like almost completely dried up right now. But um I think like yeah, like the historic high

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is like roughly around here. And uh yeah, so it's uh falls within the 100 I think. I think I was showing I tried to put it as close as I could. I put the um in that uh the picture. Yeah, you can actually see the home. It's tough with

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the shadows from the uh line, but it's technically in the buffer zone. >> Um like I probably 20 25% of the home. >> Yeah. But again, it was built before

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>> 96. >> Yeah, that's it. >> That's all. >> This is back there. Lots of beer. >> Yeah. All right. I I know that pond. >> What's that street on there? >> Just street by Charles. I'm right

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between and um Edward. >> Yeah. You're not far from >> Oh, all right. Okay. I don't recognize. >> I know that sauce is right by it every day. >> Okay. I mean, I feel we should just take

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a pop by, you know, cuz >> Yeah. >> Uh it's hard to, you know, it's hard to fully gauge. Like the GIS is definitely close for estimates, but you're right here. So,

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>> you guys want to take a look? >> Yeah. Um, I mean, while we're out Monday, I I don't know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You're going to be around Monday? >> We're going to be an echo anyway. Just go down.

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>> So, okay. All right. So, we if we're doing this other one at 12, we'll come after that. So, >> 12:31. >> Perfect. >> Right after. Okay. Sure. Thank you very much. I want you guys blessing before

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>> Yeah. Get those permits going. >> Okay. >> Sounds good. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> Um does Bonnie have your email >> um >> or phone number or something? >> Yeah. >> All right. I'll I'll I'll send you a reminder that we're when I send it to

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everybody else, I'll include you on there. >> Okay. >> So, thank you. >> All right. Thank you very much. >> Um, all right. The next thing that um

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we should bring up is the end of Highland Circle. That's Hampton Heights. Um, it was one of the first developments in town. Very pretty development. >> And it's off of um I don't know, is that North Mson, South Mson?

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>> That's lower Yeah. >> Lower Mudson Road. Okay. And um we received some um calls as well as the selectman on um a lot of um tree

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cutting, clear cutting actually um on on the extension of Highland Circle. That particular piece of property is owned by um Mr. um Grao, Alustin Graham.

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um he is a um developer and I haven't seen um the planning board this week to see if they had already approved of Mr. Graham um doing all that

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cutting, but if you notice um >> we had it a second ago, I'm sure, >> but there there is um wetlands on that property um that you can see over and Yeah. right there. >> There's a really big wetland there

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>> and um the entire property is under natural heritage for rare and endangered species. So I made a couple of phone calls. I called Melanie Cheeseman who is

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um one of the um uh people at um Natural Heritage. and she um wrote me back a letter or a note saying that um Mr. Graham hadn't

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gone through Natural Heritage in quite a few years and their approval is only five-year approval. So, he's doing all this work without approval from Natural Heritage. I received this um the other day saying

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that um I have logged this at in as an enforcement case to be reviewed. This is Melanie from Natural Heritage. >> Yep. Okay. >> Um the person doing the review will reach out with any additional questions and we will CC the conservation

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commission on any notice of non-compliance that is sent. >> Okay. Then I also contacted um Jacob um Mako from um he's a state forester

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and he wrote me back and I told him that um you know that that from what the selectman have told me that just about 30 acres have been clearcut and Jacob said that that doesn't come under the

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state forestry program because Um, it's being done with the uh ultimate goal of having uh h homes in there. >> So that um that didn't come under him,

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which kind of disappointed me because it's so much land. It's not like he's clearing a couple of house lots, >> right? >> But that's right now anyway. That's where the state forester stands on it. But um Natural Heritage um took it

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seriously and they are on it and they will let us know what happens. >> Okay, good. >> So I wanted to I wanted to update everybody on that. >> Saves us from doing a enforcement order of any kind.

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>> Yeah, it's pretty significant. >> Yeah. I mean I don't know if you want to get involved as well since you know some flat lines might have been infringed on. and maybe do your own set of enforcements as well. >> Yep.

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>> Yeah, that's the other thing that Joe just brought up. That large wetland in there um is pretty darn close to where um in some of the other plans I thought I saw where Mr. Graham is going to um

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try to develop. But even looking at that plan, and maybe that's the latest plan, I'm not sure. But you can see where um two of those lots, one in particular, and I can't see the number from here, but it has quite a lot of that um

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wetland in it. Wetland involvement. >> Yeah. So, we're talking about the the one in the yellow here, >> that's not any wetland. Which we talking about? >> That one? >> Yeah. >> And then the one behind it also. What? What? I can see I drove up there and

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took a look at it. I can see right. >> Yeah. >> All this back here. But you can't see anything because it's down. >> It goes down, right? >> Yeah. >> But it's it's this. >> We have a lot of pictures and videos. >> Yeah. From somebody else. Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> Um but I don't know. I I don't know if it's like continuing or what, but like should there be like a cease and assistance or something? I don't know. Like to stop anything from go, you know? Yeah. I I don't know. >> It's been significant and I don't want any more damage occurring. >> No.

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>> Well, yeah. I mean, don't we need the permission to go look at stuff? >> Yeah. You know, that's the other part. >> You could I think you should you could probably

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try maybe contacting him first, >> Graham. >> Yeah. To see. Okay. >> Have them come in, >> you know, because there's no point in just kind of going to look at it. You know, we know what it looks like. >> So, this is one lot here, here, through

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here. >> Looks like there >> that's >> one's the one in between. >> Interesting. >> Well, that's the one that's being here. The number >> the one in the middle. That's That's the one that >> This is the one and this one. >> I don't know. >> It says Grant, right? I'll see. Yeah,

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they're all his. >> That long one, they must all be him, right? >> He might do be doing everything back there. >> These ones are. >> So, yeah. I mean, my being all the pictures and videos that some wetlands might have been infringed on. So, >> okay.

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>> I think that is um probable cause to issue a cease. >> All right. >> It might because this is stone cold evidence this time. >> Yeah. So, so the abutters are the ones that have brought this to your attention. Okay.

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>> And the selectment. But I don't know how the selectment come out. >> Probably through the abuters, >> right? >> I don't think they did. >> What's the process for doing that? >> Yeah. You need to first of all, you guys need to vote on um

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>> issuing >> Okay. >> a violation notice. I'll make a motion to issue a violation notice at this I don't know the address or anything property uh at the end of Highland Circle

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>> because even if it doesn't infringe on the wetland it's infringing on natural heritage which I sure >> absolutely right I think we need a second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I

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>> Okay, >> we'll draft that up and then have you guys come in to sign it. >> Okay. >> And then >> Yeah. And I would ask them if we can swing by and >> Yeah. And then then contact them and >> Yeah. Well, we'll put in the um in the

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violation notice that the conservation commission is requesting a site inspection. >> Yes. Yes. >> And then um I can send it out certified mail. Okay. >> But first of all, I'll have to get it done and then you guys will have to sign it. Now, you're going to be gone next week.

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>> Just I'm leaving next Wednesday for >> I'll have it ready by Monday. >> But then coming back. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. We'll be out and about Monday any swing by and do it. >> Okay, I can >> Tom. And if you you do that before you

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get to Echo Valley, I can sign it too >> if it's needed. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. >> And you can see some of the stuff from the end of um Highland Circle. >> Very little. You go to the culdeac and you all the trucks are there. They've got

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>> Yeah. And you can see them working, but it goes down so you can't really see what's going on. >> So, is there a improved >> That's where the wetlands are. >> Is there an improved roadway created? Is it No. Is there some type? It's just a path. >> Yeah. >> Like a logging. >> See the picture from video? Log.

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Yeah. Put them up. Yeah. >> Uh >> oh. >> Okay. >> He just is the person want to remain anonymous. >> No, I know, but lost. >> What was the You sent it to your >> You sent it to me. >> Yeah, I remember them going to planning

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a while ago. They were having trying to figure out the driveway like the drainage. It was a while ago though >> for Graham. >> Yeah. For that I want Yeah. I want to say he that development but I'm not positive. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> It was like maybe two years ago.

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>> But that was that planning. >> That wasn't planning yet. >> Okay. >> Yeah. They haven't come. I don't know anything about this. >> The boarding state was to flood and do this and that. >> Well, >> because I guess drops down. Sure. Right. It does.

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>> And it'll probably drain all down into that wetland. That's >> FYI, I'm not seeing anything on the Zoom. >> You didn't put it up yet. >> Yeah. >> Well, that explains that. >> He's trying to redact it. Is that

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okay? And >> that was all wooded. >> Yeah. >> Wow. It looks like he wants to put another street or extend the street. >> Yeah, >> they've done a lot more since then.

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>> There's some pictures that are a little harder to show, but that that's the gist that you know quite significant. >> Yeah. All right, I'll video back up. So, yeah, that sounds good. Sounds like

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a good course of action. >> Yeah. >> All right. If I if I um don't have time tomorrow, I'm working all morning, but if I don't, I'll have it definitely for Monday and then um

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>> yeah, if I run over here Monday morning, >> Yeah. >> I I can get it and bring it and have Scott sign it, too. >> Okay. All right. >> I mean, you literally could run. >> I know. I know. >> I have walked. I was gonna ask you if

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you walk today. >> No, not with this wildfire we got. >> No, I don't want to chance that. >> I don't want to exert myself too much. >> Y. >> So, that's the gist of the agenda.

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And um the next thing I we would like to discuss um falls under the um attorney client exemption to the open meeting law. So I recommend the commission to

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enter an executive session. >> We have to close this meeting first. >> I don't know. This is the first time we've had to do this. >> That's what they normally do at boarding meetings and sometimes they come back depending if there's other things to discuss.

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>> So this meeting >> all right then I'll make a motion to close the meeting. >> Second that at 6:36 p.m. All in favor? Bye. >> We have

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not gonna talk about anything else. >> Okay. >> Thank you everybody. Thanks. Take care.