Thanks for that. >> Right. Um, we have we have um >> a larger project which is the NOI on Laughing Brook and I gave everyone a copy of the letter from NHGSP
and then we also have um Freeman Nolan coming in or he's in and um to to discuss the um land and uh what he has on Hollow Road and to plan a site
inspection for the conservation commission. So, um, Freeman, you can sit up here if you want. >> So, why don't we start with you first because we also have a notice of intent
that we're going to be doing and they're online, but I think it I think your project >> be quicker. you're will be quicker because you're going to be planning a site inspection etc. >> So uh in in a nutshell my wife and I
bought property at the end of Hollow Road in Hampton 5 and a half acres on Hampton portion and then just on the other side another five and a half on Ber. The goal is to uh build a farm from scratch which I've been uh working on
for about a year and a half now. first year figuring out um all the dos and don'ts, reading the bylaws, um learning about conservation and conservation commission, talking to state people and private
sector to see what I can and can't do with property. Uh fast forward uh to about a year ago, let's say thereabouts. um came before the board Hampton and Ammon and said that um hey this is what
I'm going to do. I delineated the uh 200 feet of of wetlands off of Big Bro and I had third company come in and make their mark and then I made the mark even more
obvious every 25 ft. Um and all the work that I'm doing is on the other side of that. So I'm clearing the land bit by bit uh just by myself. I don't want any big equipment in there um to tear anything up um as I want to be
as careful as I can. I'm not clear cutting. Um I'm taking down uh trees that are more or less technically at chest height um knuckle to elbow which places them about 100 years. Anything bigger stay. Um so I'm taking down all
mostly the snow uh trees oaks and maples only as many fig trees as I can. see what's what. Um kind of a little challenging to visualize what it's going to look like um by the time it's done. So that's why I'm taking down the small
trees now to open up the area to see what I can can work with. Um I have no intention of modifying the land itself. It's got a really unique This is um Hollow Road in
this big brook. It has a a step >> really gorgeous layout for a farm. >> Um it's not going to be like one farm like you see in Iowa where it's just never ending acres of uh this flatness.
It'll be just traditional old schooly New England farm. So that's what I'm working on. Um, I'm just going whenever I can. Chainsaw and tractor is about the extent of the equipment I have.
I'm hoping to have Oh, okay. So, interestingly enough, uh, agriculture, it's pretty broad term. Uh, luckily for me, I I don't have a farm. I'm actively moving into cost. So the
act of harvesting of trees and then selling them is considered under the umbrella of agriculture. So this year will be my first year of agricultural sales. Uh then next year will be my second. I'll have my two years of
minimum $500 >> for agricultural uh sales and then I'll I'll put it for chapter 61 stats. Originally, we were thinking of putting a home on the parcels as well, but now we're looking at the costs uh and
timelines. Um we may not be able to do that. We may have to continue living in our Wolver home. Um and then just all the parcels be 100% just farm. And then eventually I put up a farm in there, but
I need to have agricultural history first. >> Okay. in order to have um >> that established to make the request. >> So what do you want us to go look at then? I was out there before >> myself and Ted. >> I'm not necessarily asking you to look.
I'm kind of offering if you if you want to look >> I mean nobody else has been there so >> Okay. >> Except me but >> it's um two rectangles so it's not that bad. I have the perimeter. I created a perimeter trail which is you know x
amount of feet off the property line the south as it hits down close to the uh wetland area and then I I veer so I have a tractor capacity uh to get my tractor across the property. There's an existing
uh old dam trail on the property as well that I happen to. I'm just saying if you want to see um what I'm doing, just let me know. >> Yeah. Well, that's up to everybody else if they want to go and look. I have seen it. So, >> do we need to?
>> There's not a lot. >> That's what I was wondering. There seem to be any >> Well, there is a brook on the property though. >> Yeah. I mean, like to go take a look at it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I want I want a month. We can arrange that. All your work's outside the 200 foot mark, you said, and it's all >> Yeah. Actually, the more I work, the
more obvious it becomes because not only are the stakes there, but you can see the trees that are uh falling. Right now, it's a little ugly >> and then it stops and then you see just the natural uh woodland down to the brook. >> What do you have for availability,
you know, schedule-wise for us? I am available every day between 2 am and 4 a.m. So that's >> really >> Thank you for clarifying that quickly. >> How about you? So um >> I'll have to come on shift. >> We haven't been that up earliest since
we've been on so Friday and some weekends. So most weekends are the best. Um, I can eat during the week if I have like advanced notice I can arrange for work. >> Well, it seems like afternoons are
probably best for everybody on commission. >> Have decent light around five o' just something you want. >> Not necessarily. The other thing is too, you really don't even have to be there. If I go I, you know, I've been there. >> All sorts of hidden treasure all over
the place. You guys >> treasure. Yeah. Yeah. hidden treasure. Yeah. Like that old car. >> It's gone now. >> You got rid of it? >> I got rid of it. I put it on Facebook's scrap metal. Uh about a month, two months later. >> Came in and I helped them with a
tractor. They cut it up, >> dragged it up to the road. Wow. Now it's done. Wow. Lot lot nicer. >> Was that there before? >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah, that was there. >> It was just a a junk car that rolled >> stuffed in the woods. >> Left there to rot.
What do you guys think? See that? >> Uh, >> sooner or later. >> Tuesday. You got Tuesday open. >> Next Tuesday, >> seventh. >> Um, yeah, I can do next Tuesday.
>> Pick a time, Greg. It's time. I mean, I'm I'm good. When you say four or five, something like that. >> Five o'clock would be ideal. My work day, it's about 4. Greg's from Westfield. Um, yeah, here >> that should be fine. Okay, that works. That works some five o'clock.
>> Are you familiar with >> Hollow Road? >> Yeah, I know where it is. >> Five o'clock. Okay, >> you have to work. Okay, so it be us too then. >> Oh, I'll go too. >> Okay, Scott, you going or? >> I have to check my work schedule, but I'll try. >> Okay. Okay. >> 5:00 Tuesday, Hollow Road.
>> Just go to Hollow Road and go to the very end. >> Yep. I don't have any signs up there. That's Hollow Road Farm yet, but I am I I have an LLC now. So, >> well, they bounce off the fish. >> Yeah. >> On the way. >> Just drive until you can't drive anymore. >> Yeah, >> pretty much
>> what everybody else does. >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay, sounds good. >> Anything else I can answer? Pass? >> No. >> Oh, actually, no, I can't make that.
>> An interesting process. Learn all the the the >> Oh, I'm glad you're doing that. It sounds like you're being very thorough. That's awesome. >> Which is an improvement. >> My best a lot of things I did. >> Yeah.
Good. Well, >> all right. >> I guess that concludes that. >> Yeah. Thank you. Nice meeting you. See you on the seventh. >> See you at Okay. >> 5:00 on five o'clock. Okay. Thank you. The best in your future endeavors. Yeah.
>> Thank you. >> Thanks for coming in. safe. >> I said you heard me can't make it while I go pick up my granddaughter. >> Yeah, no problem. That's good. >> All right. Next on the um
>> next on the agenda is um the notice of intent of the Laughing Brook. >> You want to do minutes? >> Um wildlife sanctuary restoration, which is now on. They're sitting there wait Okay. Okay. >> Um
the invasive plant management and um we've been waiting for um a letter from NHSP um because um uh the commission our policy is not to not to issue an
order of conditions until we hear from them. Plus, the state also wrote that they did not want um want us to close on this until um until we heard from NAGSP.
Um and I gave you all you all have a copy of that, >> right, >> that I handed out. >> Yep. >> Just a little while ago. >> And Naomi is on um on the Zoom, right? Hi, Naomi.
you thereaomi. >> Sorry. Yes. Hi. >> We're turning up our volume. >> Okay. I'll check my audio settings, too, to make sure my mic's all the way up. Looks like it is.
over here though. >> There we go. No, I was >> I think I hit the muted button. Can you hear us? >> We have no lights. >> Yes, I can. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we can hear you good, too. >> You just push buttons until they work. That's what we figured out. >> That's how you fix them. That's it.
Yeah. Shh. No time, but I know it's talking to you. >> Okay. >> So, this project was uh discussed at our last meeting and um I was just if anyone has any questions for Naomi um before we
vote on this project, now's the time to ask them. >> You set with the dead in the in the pond. Yeah. There's no questions from us, I guess. >> What happened? >> No space. >> There we go. Okay.
I don't I don't think anyone on the commission has any more questions. Did you want have anything that you wanted to discuss about this project? >> No, not really. I just wanted to make sure to be here in case there were any questions. And as you saw, they issued a
no take letter and then discussed which aspects were exempt. So, not much added from heritage that you'd need to consider for an order of conditions if you chose to vote for one. >> Um, have some on your >> I have one. Yeah.
I'm just wondering um I just I printed this out for all of the members. Is is the pond mentioned in this at all? >> Naomi, is the pond mentioned as far as >> they didn't have any comments about
smiling pool? No. Well, that goes away basically. Um, >> they um I did speak with Natural Heritage when they were reviewing and they're aware that it's part of the the project, but it wasn't mentioned in
particular in terms of >> the response. When do you plan on starting this? >> Um, I think um Tom will need to get back when he's able to get started. Right now there's no
uh contract in place as far as I'm aware, >> but he can certain that could certainly be a condition to reach out to the commission prior to work. I know that's pretty standard. >> Yeah. Well, did you want to um There's really
nothing, you know, I was I was holding off on this because usually if NHS has anything that they want >> included, >> they don't >> or Mark and Mark was was fine with it also. So, >> okay, good.
>> We have nothing. >> Okay. I mean this is this is a order of conditions but we don't have any extra conditions >> right okay >> so why don't you make >> two motions one is to um issue orders
and conditions vote on that and then the second one is to close the hearing >> okay so I make a motion to um accept >> issue >> issue order conditions as written in
this. >> Yes. Orders of conditions. >> Yes. >> And that's the >> um number 1730245. That's mass D number. >> A second.
>> Favor. I >> And then I'm going to make a motion to close this hearing on this issue. Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay, Naomi, you're still there, right?
>> Yes, I am. >> I'm going to um have the members um sign the um order of conditions. I have two um originals here to sign. And um where
do I send them? Do I send them to Autobon or do I send them to you? Um, if you have two originals, you can send one to us and one to Mass Audabon. >> Okay, I'll do that. >> Thank you very much >> for the sign sheet.
>> Yeah, I'm going to pass it around. >> Here's what >> I appreciate the the special meeting while we were waiting for the no take letter for a while. >> Well, I was getting nervous because I hadn't heard from anybody at noon today
and I thought, "Oh my goodness. this. >> Yeah. >> But all right, everyone, enjoy the rest of your evening again. I appreciate your time. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you, Naomi. >> Byebye. >> No, I don't. >> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. Wait that way. >> And this thing it's >> nice. >> Looks like it's pretty cut and dry. >> Yeah. like in here somewhere. It all goes down anyways. >> Without major, right?
>> Actually worked out good. >> It's a good piece of property. Sounds like >> Oh, yeah. >> I was very impressed with his due diligence. >> Yeah. >> Y >> Yeah, I guess. >> All right. Next on the agenda is the
meeting minutes from September 17th. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Keep coming. It's still signing. Thank you. >> You all have copies of the minute? Anybody got question on it at all?
And I'll make a motion to accept the minute minutes from September 17 meeting. Second. >> All in favor? >> I talk. here. >> I I've talked to him several times.
>> You haven't heard from that old road, right? >> No, he was supposed to have closed um last uh Friday. >> No. >> No. >> You're supposed to get back to us. Is it >> right? >> Okay. He's working um he's still trying to
work in a septic design >> and um >> as he's told >> he really wanted to purchase the property and last I knew was if if they couldn't fit a septic or the other one failed they were just going to >> swap it around and put the septic in the
front. >> Yeah. I drove by there the other probably two or three days ago and there's a for sale sign in the front yard. I don't know if it was approved or there or what. >> Could be just officially. Yeah, they put it because they do have to. Yeah, you do
have to. >> Yeah, >> but >> sometimes they say pending though, you know. >> Yeah, right. >> I So I I don't know. And I was talking to Lori because she's board of health, >> you know, with the septic design and um she hasn't heard anything from them
either. Um, >> can I ask a question? As long as we're on the subject of what this is, if I can. Um, does the town of Hampton require a system with leech in that or can it be a tank? >> Tank.
>> Well, I don't know about both, right? >> Yeah, the septic system is >> I know a tank can be like x number of gallons and then and then empty >> as opposed to a leech field. >> Oh, I see what you're saying. holding tank versus a >> right. I didn't >> I don't know.
>> I don't know if I >> I just didn't know whether any other options available in here. >> Okay. >> I know they have options to raise it above ground. There's one on M uh Wilberham Road down the street. >> Raise what? >> Raise the beachfield. >> Oh, okay.
>> Above ground so that it >> I know they can do that, >> but no. If you if you really are curious, you call like Hampton Septic. They would know all the laws.
>> Hampton Septic would know the options. >> Yeah, they know. >> Okay, fine. I will. >> Yes. >> They said I as things come up, I >> sure. Yeah. >> Good question. Actually, I don't know. >> Because if things don't leech in the town of Hampton, I didn't know that there were other options.
>> There's a lot of property in this town and things don't leech. >> Sure. And there's a lot of places where didn't pop the towing in. >> Well, that's like the one that we're talking about 21. That's why it failed. >> Right. >> The board of health, too. I'll tell you.
>> Well, I have I have another um announcement that um um when u Joe filed to join the Conservation Commission, um I noticed that he also had a degree in environmental science. and we've been
looking for several years now for a um part-time conservation agent for the town and um we've been working with um mostly with the town manager Brian little bit with
the selectman and they I just got a notice today and Joe got one that um they have um decided to open up that position and um that even though the way the law reads they have to post the
position for 7 days and then um after that um and I I know no one will apply because we've been doing it for several years and um then Joe will be able to um
begin as a part-time conservation agent for the conservation commission. The way it'll work is over at Thornon Burgess, um, I reserve two offices over there,
um, side by side, hoping that we'd eventually hire someone. And, um, so we'll each have our own office um, with computers and whatnot in it. And I'll spend the next I don't know how long,
six months maybe, not training Joe in in wetland issues because he's got that down, but with everything else that's involved, the state and the contacts and the engineers and the wetland specialists that we use and all that.
And then um um he'll be able to take over more and more of the part-time facilities. Um and part-time for the selectman is under 15 hours. So he can work up to 15
hours um 4 days a you know adding up to four days a week or you know if he wants to work three hours you know they just you know they they have a a certain >> max but there's not a minimum is that >> there's a maximum but there's
>> there's a maximum but no minimum >> so um and that'll work out good. So, >> yes, >> that's where we are now. And then, you know, eventually when we get all the all the um paperwork, the notices of intent,
the request for determination, it it will go into into Joe's office and then he can work with it and work with the commission on how to how they want all of that to be filled out. And then um I
can just do the actual typing the paperwork and all that. >> So >> that would be awesome. Yes, >> that will be fantastic. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Well, we're growing. >> It took a while. >> Yes.
>> Yeah, it took it took a while. >> Yes. So, um I just think I just think that the commission would really benefit from that, you know, from having a um >> Yep. >> a conservation agent. >> Great. Yep.
>> Yeah. Thanks for pursuing it. >> Yeah. >> And no congratulations yet because it hasn't happened. >> No, you gota wait seven. You gotta wait seven days. >> Wait till he says yes. >> Next meeting hopefully.
>> Yeah. So, does anyone have anything else they want to discuss? Look a little tired there. >> I am. >> Nothing. >> I've been trying to get an answer from
um uh the town today on on the um Yeah, some of us already have the badges that they like took your pictures today. >> Oh, okay. Um, but they they do want us to wear besides the vests we have, they want the badges worn also on site
inspections. Okay. They're supplying uh um some type of a Yeah. >> for the um >> badges. >> Like that. Well, she said something about I think. >> Yeah. They're going to get >> Yeah. Well, I told her I said, "Well,
they they have orange vests." So she said, "Well, then >> are they green?" >> So now you have green and orange. >> Whatever. >> Yeah. >> So anyway, um that's a scoop on >> you get shot at it. >> Yeah. Well, no. >> Look a little more professional.
>> Season mine with me. I don't always wear it, but it's always in my pocket >> because you never know who's gonna Who are you, >> right? >> And uh what other thing that the South Ridge Estates um the um illegal cutting of the >> Yeah.
>> uh resource area in there. Um I'm still working with Mark Stinson on that. We have plenty of money to hire our own our own wetland specialists, >> but one of the and I don't know who one
of the people that got the letter was questioning how conservation commissions can go on private property to flag the wetlands. I mean, we do it all the time when
>> Yeah. But usually usually it's not after the house has been built, you know. >> True. >> Usually it's when it's raw land, >> but um town the town approved us to do that. >> Oh, yeah. In that case, there are rightway,
>> right? There's two rightways, right, to the what used to be a detention pond back there. So, >> yeah. So, um, >> so if they think they own the detention pond, then maybe that's what the issue is. >> No, they think the detention pond's on Russ Morton's property.
>> They think they own the right%. It's only like his wife or whatever, by the way. >> Yeah, you can walk through it. >> He doesn't want us on his property at all. >> Yeah, whatever. Whatever. >> So, when we get that all all straightened out, um, I was speaking to Gary Gary Winer. Steve was one of the
original um uh engineers up there and he planned the the detention ponds and all that. And Gary's right. I mean, he said that the land owner Russ is the one that should be paying to have it reflect.
>> Yeah. >> Russ has dug his heels in and I don't think I don't think he wants to do that. >> No. And we did discuss that when he was here and we agreed to >> Is there something he's
>> Is there something he's hiding? >> No. >> No. He's just being stubborn. >> Just stubborn. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, I don't know. From what I'm hearing, it seems like he doesn't want this and he doesn't want anyone to do. >> He just wants to do things his way. Yeah. >> Well, I could see that, too. >> That's all. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Like, >> yeah. >> The government, if you will. Well, that holding its motion. Well, >> okay. Got that. >> So, >> so that's the only other >> Okay.
>> Want to make a move. >> And we have our next regular meeting in two weeks from tonight. Yes. >> That's still on. So, >> yes. >> Yeah. >> Negate that. Right now we we have don't have anyone coming in on um I believe
it's a 15. Is it? >> Yeah, it would be. Yeah. Yeah, >> we have no one coming in at this point in time. >> Um so I will keep you posted on that. >> Are there any issues that will be addressed that two weeks? >> No, that's what she just said. No
>> issues. Yeah, could be real quick. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Could be my issue with the 15th. I'll be in the Bahamas. Oh >> wow. >> Do you have to? Really? >> We still >> Anybody want a copy of this? It didn't get
>> Was there any updates about the like the one here meadow property? >> The older Trinar sub Meadow. >> Nothing. Haven't heard of things. >> Other property. >> Oh, that's Russ Warren's dog. >> Yeah, that responded to anything, right? No.
>> Well, last time we went there, there was no >> no >> problem. And she hasn't responded to any of the letters >> that B >> and Nas haven't complained either. So, >> right. Yeah. >> And that hasn't happened either. So, >> quiet. >> No news is good news.
>> Okay. I guess uh make a motion to close the meeting. >> Second at >> 6:35. >> 6:35. Okay. I can't read your