I put that all right so we're going to open the public hearing case 2023 D Highland Circle and just let everybody know that this hearing is being recorded our introduction of the planning board members Madison pixler chair Christine
Christina bror Pat coin David Demers and John Matthews our statement of authority the planning board is established under chapter 48 of the general laws of Massachusetts and acts in compliance with chapter 48 under the zoning bylaws of the town of hampen chapter 41 governing the submission and approval of
plots and proposed subdivisions and the rules and regulations governing the subdivision of land and ham Masters are legal notice the hamon planning board will hold a public hearing on Wednesday July 26 2023 at 6:45 p.m and the hamon pl the townhouse 625 Main Street hamon
Mass on the application of ausome Graham of Graham Construction for a special permit under Section 7.5 42 of the handen zoning bylaw for a common driveway to provide access to three adjoining Lots owned by the applicant located on Highland Circle in South mson
Road Lots 45 46 and 47 information related to this application is on file in the town clerk's office and is available for review by the public during normal business hours for the board Mass pixle chair of the hon planning board published in the werham hamon times July 6th and July 13th
2023 so this is a continuance from July 23rd 2024 we Sor this a while go just realized what your it is how's it going ready yeah go for it um just so you know I think that's
Chris R B on they can hear you guys see this now he's on can they hear us yeah yeah I'm I'm hear yeah y m can you all see this yes okay excellent for the record will
Walter professional engineer in Massachusetts with Alfred Benish and Company um here with the owner of the property alustin Graham Mr Graham brid town I'm sure you guys all know him I'm assuming you all know him
he built subdivision to houses so this property is off of Highland Circle uh to get you oriented North is to the right and South mson Road is down here on the on the left hand side Highland Circle comes off
South mson Road and kind of curls around end the culdesac and there's a long driveway that goes to a house back there and then there's a number of houses up here off a Highland Circle and there's another little cuac right there um the site is that he owns three properties
totaling about 40 acres the Topography is such that it slopes high on the west low down on the east there's a large Wetland system down here uh the area that is tributary to this Wetland system which I I did my
best to get off of uh the gis I think it's about 400 Acres give or take I I could be off a little bit but it all ends up coming down to Temple Brook that's flowing underneath South wson Road over here so essentially um we're not here for to get
a subdivision approved there's already three legal lies uh we're here basically for a common driveway all right um so the common driveway as we've designed it extends off Highland Circle swings around like
this I'm not showing the property lines on these um on this plan but obviously the houses are on each property and he's going to have to come back with a plot plan for each house that includes a septic system that's designed properly a
building footprint you know driveways that are graded correctly so on and so forth that's not really what this is about this is for this is simply for the a common driveway that extends off a Highland Circle that can be accessed by one two three residential
lots so just keep that in mind that's what that's what this is for um so as we've designed this um per the Massachusetts storm water quality manual essentially everything that's draining we we're going to curve the
Eastern side of this entire thing so everything that's draining down this way sheep flows down into the road and then the low spot is right over here so it sheep flows down when it hits the curve It Comes This Way sheep gos down hits the curve It Comes This Way gets into a
catch Basin right here and then is dumped into this above ground storm water management area all right so all the storm water comes down there it gets into here and then eventually um at during the larger storms it's going to overflow and make its way down
to this very large wet system where it's currently going right now um so we provided plans and profiles and a very robust erosion sedimentation plan we provided a storm water
management report that shows how we're capturing and treating water how we're detaining it and releasing it at a rate that is less than it is under current conditions today um one of the things that we had originally when Mr Graham had brought
this before you whatever it was six seven months ago this was a gravel drive um and there was a number of comments it was this previous engineer that prepared previous plans um and I've done a few subdivisions with him he reached out to me to take over the
project um so I actually in this plan set I'm showing this as vinous pavement based upon your third party rev viiew Engineers comments we're going to we're going to make all this gravel and I think that's what that's what he the third party review engineer is saying
that we'll meet the Massachusetts storm water regulation so we are going to make all of that gravel as it originally was planned back in July of last year so I received yesterday the comments from your third party
engineer um a lot of the a lot of the comments that they made in Ju I have been addressed to their satisfaction um there are still some outstanding comments and some new comments which in my opinion are a little bit excessive uh keep in mind
this is it's a it's a driveway we're talking about here it's not an it's not an industrial plan it's not a mixed use not commercial it's a it's a driveway is what we're talking about here all right so I'd like to just go through the comments that I believe are
outstanding and um and then I'd like to I'd like to get you know your feedback and I'd like to get the planner's feedback and perhaps third party of Engineers of course get their feedback as well uh and I've highlighted the ones that it appears that they're looking for
further plan revisions and further response so if everybody has their their review comments dated February 6 uh the first one is at the bottom of page one and it says uh section 5.7 of the P of hon zoning bylaws pertaining to
environmental impact study study that may be required at the discretion of the board Eis would require a comprehensive hyd hydrology study to be developed in the area of the proposed project while a storm water management report was provided did not include hydrologic
calculations to demonstrate compliance with the requirements of section 5.7 the board should determine if an e and the subsequent hydrologic study is required for the the proposed project and I was a little bit confused by that because we did provide a St mod management report that had a full hydrologic design that showed that we're
treating the water and we're detaining the water and I looked over at I looked over at section 5.7 in your bylaws um and everything it's saying here I'm not going to go through everything but drainage area area cover type soil types
perk rates drainage patterns levels of streams Rivers ponds rates of runoff intensity of storm event time parameters um essentially the as I read this this the St water your bylaws require us to reduce the peak for the
25e storm we've actually done that for the 100e storm so I'm a little bit confused as to why they're saying we're not meeting this uh and it does say that it says that the board has the option to require an impact study I feel like we've met it but even so again we're
talking about the driveway what we're talking about here all right the next one on page two is number three uh the original comment was section 7725 a requires the rate of surface run off from a site shall not be
increased after construction and Analysis of pre- and post construction runoff rates were not provided for review that was not provided with the original application but we did update it and it was provided in our storm water report their follow-up comment the first one is while Peak rates of surface
runoff are reduced for the site as a whole it should be noted that Peak rates are increased for all storm events from the two offsite northw sh said we recommend additional Peak rate mitigation this area to comply with the section so on and so forth so what they're talking about in our model and I
don't want to get too detailed there's about an acre of property right here that essentially dra ends up just draining down to this watershed this Wetlands down here the reason that it's increasing ever so slightly is because we have a little bit right here that was formerly woods and now we're turning
into grass nothing from the the driveway is getting down here but just a little bit right there that is now becoming grass and I looked at our report and essentially what we're talking about for the 25-year storm the increase that we're showing in this little bit right
here which eventually makes us all the way down here which we're decreasing all of this pretty significantly there that is increasing by 03 CFS in the 25-year storm now 40 acres of wed right here
that Mr Graham owns a total of 400 Acres all going down here I just did a quick a quick calculation and for the 25e storm I came up with 400 cubic feet per second under existing conditions so we're talking
about a 03 CFS and they're suggesting we provide some mitigation over here I don't we could do that I suppose with a dry well but but we've analyzed everything coming down to this Watershed and we're decreasing it up to the 100-year storm so it seems excessive to say for that little bit of grass right
there we want further mitigation out here so that's just something to me it seems a little bit excessive okay the next thing that they say in section three or number three is additionally we disagree with the decision to model drainage areas E1 D1
and E1 D2 separately for existing conditions as is these drainage areas are broken into two separate drainage areas in an arbitrary fashion and the drainage area does not represent any flow impediment or High Point breaking up the drainage area impacts the time of concentration of flow paths in a manner
that does not represent actual flow patterns and my response to that is hydrologic design is not an exact science and if you have five Engineers perform a existing and proposed hydrologic model and design on
this you're going to have five different ways they do it it's all going to be the same methodology but it's not all going to be exactly the same there is room for engineering judgment and again to me this is It's engineering judgment every we're we're looking at this whole thing
down here as a whole and we're reducing up to the 100e storm everything that's coming down here so again I can go back and I can redo things I can rework things make all of these I can keep spending Mr Graham's money you know I can charge him another five or
$10,000 change my model and the plans when in reality it's not going to change anything about the design or anything about the water that's actually coming down here all right the next one their next comment is down on page four page 4
[Music] E1 uh they say the project plan set should include a detail for the proposed firm waterer quality based I have no problem with that I can provide a detail for the you know how we're going to build this essentially it's going to be a couple layers of stone and then some
soil with some sandy soil mix in it to allow water to percolate I have no problem with that we can provide that the next one talks about um materials included in construction of storm waterer quality Bas should be indicating the plans in addition materials and seed mix
I think that's kind of the same thing and again I have no problem with that I'll certainly provide Mr gr specification and I can put that on the plan that needs to be fil t Okay the next one on page five at the top
um the original comment was a maintenance schedule for the period of construction I put that in our storm water point and their comment from this last response says while a long-term operation and maintenance plan was included as a part of the storm water report a construction period maintenance
schedule was not we recommend including a construction period made the schedule to ensure storm water management feature functionality during that time again I can certainly pull together something like that I can put something on the plan you know Mr Graham has a good reputation it's going to him and maybe a
couple other guys constructing this we have robust silk fence out here um I can do that again it's a bit excessive to me down in number nine in Part B um without going into great detail
originally they said the standard two I'm sorry um I me I don't want to read the whole thing that's okay anyways it's it's engineering judgment in my opinion well yeah um number
three has to do with the fact that originally when uh the third party review engineer reviewed it it was gravel and and then with our most recent application we did impervious and because of that it triggers the standard not being met
we're going to go back to gravel so that should take that right off the table um number page six to number c standard four I think that's the same thing yeah okay it's the same thing it was met before with gravel then we went
to impervious then it was not met we're going back to gravel that should take that off the table um down on part G um he's asking for a construction period pollution prevention and erosion sentation plan uh we put together again
very robust um erosion control plan um it's going to be Mr Graham and a couple of his workers and the town's going to have the right to go out to look anytime they want I can I can put all these things in a plan I can charge them to do this I don't have a problem
doing that but me it's unnecessary going on page seven um H three uh has to do we showed some grass papers we're taking those out that addresses that
comment uh the next one part four the plan that is drawn to scale and shows the location of all storm water bmps uh what is he saying the plan is not included as part of the long-term operation maintenance plan okay so again we can we can pull together a long-term operation maintenance plan and give it
to Mr Graham um down in part six an operation and maintenance budget they say an estimated operation maintenance budget is not included in the storm water
report uh additionally standard n States the operation of maintenance log form should be included again it's going to be Mr Graham and a couple of his workers um I don't know why they would need a construction budget or operation Mains
budget be building himself um number 10 is about illicit discharge compliance statement there comment an a listed discharge statement is not attached as a part of the storm water apart we recommend
applicant clarify if the sign a sign statement Prov sure provide a sign statement it's a driveway there's not going to be any illicit discharges or Hazard materials or anything like that and then there's new comments on page eight so let me go through these number
10 talks about All Slopes exceeding 15% shall be covered with for top soil and planted I mean I'll put a detail that shows 4 in of top soil that's no problem uh number 11 I talking about there should be no
removal from the premises and I think it's want to make sure there's not a lot of material hogged out through the streets and you know I can certainly put something on the plan that that clarifies that that Phil is not going to be removed number 12 refu and other waste
disposal disposal me methods excuse me um yeah this is excessive it's a guy with a back ho and a couple workers building a driveway number 13 indicates he says indicates the elevation plans are at a scale of a quarter inch equals one foot apparently
that's in your bylaws um we provided a plan profile that's that's at um scale 1 in equals 60 essentially the quarter inch to a foot is essentially one in equals 50 I can revise it it's just more time and money it's not going to change anything way he
builds that number 14 the location of the proposed curbing along the access driveway is not clear I will make it clear we're going to basically curb the Eastern side so nothing flows over the driveway it all gets to the catch Basin all gets to storm Water Management areas you can certainly do that and the next
one he says catch Basin to catch Basin connections May compromise the ability of catch Basin to function properly hydraulically we recommend these connections are not used and that each catch Basin is directed to a dra manhole I mean we just added $15 or $20,000 to
his construction cost for two or three manholes there's absolutely no reason to that these things are going to work just fine just fine the way they're designed all that's coming down here is from the woods they're going to work just fine um so that was that was the um that
was the review letter I'll be more than happy to take any questions or I mean question the commission may have clarifications did you I think Ty and bond on yeah they so I'm going to defer first sure Ty
and bond if you will sure thank you yes hi this is uh Chris Rus from time Bond um I I understand where he's coming from for some of the um comments I mean basically we just we go through the
zoning and we go through the storm water RS and we're just making sure all the that eyes are dotted and T's are crossed and U and that's how we you know develop our peer rreview letters and come up at the comments we're just making sure everything is for the standards um and I
understand that yeah removing the gravel or removing the the bituminous pavement and turning it back to gravel that's going to you know remedy a lot of the commence um and some of the other ones he said he was going to address uh I guess it's um possibly up to the board if if
they want to push back and and you know if these if these other comments don't need to be addressed or I guess um I mean some of them are just you know standard stuff operation you know construction period pollution prevention standards and that kind of stuff is just standard stuff that typically is in the
storm water report so it's not a big it's it's not a heavy lift so um and then the additional comments that we have at the end those are you know legitimate comments uh like I said you know out of the zoning bylaws and uh we were
confused about the curban where the curban was going to be shown and there was no details on the plan so there was information missing so I think you know generally these comments should be addressed but um I'll leave it up to the board to to decide
how to move forward thank you will could you just expand on that we mentioned a couple times the long-term operation and maintenance plan what what would that be that plan what is it tell so typically what you do is you put
together a plan that shows how you're going to uh maintain the stor water features so in this case it would be okay we have uh sumps in our catch basins every few years they'll vacuum the sumps out uh once or twice a year
he'll go down and he'll cut back the he'll cut back the grass or the you know flower mix that's down there he'll inspect it for garbage and I mean at the end of the day he's not going to own any of this this is all going to be owned by these three people actually to be honest with you it's gonna be owned by this
guy so whatever we do it's going to be done by the people that own those parts of the subdivision because this is not going to be common ownership this is three separate Lots so the street that Island
circle is a private road in perpetuity it's not it's a driveway drive it's a common driveway Drive well we found I think in some instances we found conversations where having something that gets to the maintenance
of things like storm drains and uh you know over time we've seen those like deteriorate things have gone back into a development and we've had issues when we developers have tried to go back into it a development that might have stalled
and then they go back in and find that you know what I can do is I we've G have to do plot plans for each of these I can put I can put those that schedule on the plot plans so each person knows here's what you have to do in other words like
this guy probably will not have any catch BAS this guy will have to just do this in a couple catch Bas this guy might I don't know exactly where the catch Bas are but this guy you know so we can put those on the F that's not a big deal should
be yes that Patrick's pretty much right on the money that asking for um because of the fact that we know know eventually these storm water detention retention bases whatever you want to
call um will eventually become under perview or review by the EPA because of storm water compliance that's what's Driven the changes to storm water by so
um so we definitely would look for a plan because we know that there has not been maintenance um many probably going to stretch this to say any of the storing water detention
Bas in the town so you need to put a a name okay that and I'll put that on I'll put the all that on the updated plan and then for each bot what they have to do
yeah if you would I'm going to way in and I believe because of and I'm going to ask because I was not on the board when the initial started did these
three building locations or the plots that are shown here have they been approved because they'd all have and we come back with plot plans we got show is within the
setbacks okay so that's yeah just actually just the com oh we are taking the consideration the imperviousness of the houses in know computations yeah I mean the house that's fine um I think I looked at
the plan and what there was was what I looked at the other day was the clearing envelope you didn't have anything open for th000 square feet clear we try to minimize as much as Y
and and just we were we were out there this fall with a bunch of test pits for two for two things one for the storm water management but I'm like you know gr if we're going to be out there anyway let's also start poking around for septic so we've identified locations up
here which are Su for septic we identified locations up here point that out again down here yeah everything's above the road uh yeah we originally were thinking of putting one down below the road the matal they were not good so we we came
up top so everything's going to be above the road um so my my thing on the my my response to um as you went through on the first first section
5.7 was you were looking to they're looking for know e if an e is Reed and I'm gonna say no because what the project is he said
no I said no yeah that's what I um but I do have to ask where drainage areas B1 D1 and B1 D2 are that is down in section on page two
um paragraph three you can show me that essentially E-1 is a little right here it comes that's it it's on a right there everything else is E1 D2 and there's a little bit up here that goes that way
and we're not changing anything about that characteristic so essentially what we what we do is we try to try to break things up into catchment Watershed areas but the end of the day what what we try to do is everything going down here is
what's important so we're barely increasing this but we're decreasing this in fact look at my numbers here so essentially what's coming down here
under okay we're actually we're maintaining we're maintaining almost exactly what's happening right here for the 10 year and the 25 year but for the 100 Year we're decreasing by maybe four or five per. so um the next question I have do you
know if there's a manhole or a train of the called the sack where the entry to the Comm tribe one somewhere there's something there's something up there I don't know mean it slopes high to
low that driveway somewhere there one on the driveway if there's a catch Bas in there it's going to have to dump out somewhere down here I guess I think it's going back that direction got be going towards pH yeah like just before he's not
going like for like so that because you go there you never see any water flow nowhere um so you
will update the plan with the seed areas um for the storm water quality based set those are I'm sorry p four e small I yeah I indicated we we would
we would certainly do that um I think but there what I'm going to say p and bond is concerned with is the schedule for the construction period maintenance you know how you're going to
maintain everything um if I'm correct on that um so peniles BMS coming in and out there you have to so getting to the next one which is 9
B uh what they're asking I believe is that because the test pits um had different different material structure meaning the soil structure is
different H from an hsga to an hsg B so I believe they're asking to run the rates at an HS hsg
and yeah I yeah if I could jump in here real quick yeah that's exactly right the soil testing showed the um the that it's a Sandy loone which is a HS hydraulic soil Group B um but what was used in the
model was a hydraulic soil group a um so it should really be modeled based on what the soil testing was done on site to to you know match existing conditions and that I do agree with time on that's really just running uh the
calculations I'm not asking it to go out and I think you can do that [Music] um you changed probably and TSS this this area is
not um this section of town does not fall under that type of um Monitor and we do monitor on the if you
will the western part of town down from wilham road to the West that's all so I'm not going to I think this goes away going back to gravel okay I think
the requirement is going well they're asking for yeah TSS is the total suspended solids which you have to have some type of device to remove back down to 93% Mo yeah that's only for imperiously
minutes okay because orig look at the receipt their original comment with the original application this standard is met and they say no new impervious is proposed and I had said no response required right I didn't realize that I put it back to I should have realized it
but I didn't realize it when I did that then I triggered I triggered the standard okay so we're going to remove that the Swift that's kind of standard that's uh number nine uh G I'm sorry down the
bottom say the standard has not been met for revised submission standard a mes Stam Water Management standards I believe that's what they call a swift is what they're asking for right that was it for this down at the bottom I don't that would
make a difference on what the material is I guess I'm gonna go back I am bond for uh for G yeah um yeah we're basically asking just for a basically a construction period pollution prevention plan that includes
this information you know all these bullet items um which was not in the submission and this is just a pretty standard um document that's typically included um so I don't it's not a it's not a real heavy lift to to include this
information in the in the report I I would recommend it be done yeah and I agree with you y I agree that I think we're on H um I I
I you removed the grass papers if I'm correct you said that um the long-term maintenance plan we talked about y um I
not really concerned with um bi your maintenance what it's budgeted not Happ um
basically just let us know you're going to vegetate the 15% we're looking for that and the what it is is um if you're going to remove gravel or material Earth um then you have to go to
CBA but there was you're going to repurpose all the material your cut and fill um is that rine Hill Side um I'm not sure does it fall into rin's side I had on my notes originally I I thought it
did okay remember that's I thought okay 15% I thought was yeah yeah de or or um going to comply okay yeah so that's
got to be done okay no question um I think 10.51 of the um submission for the uh special
kit I think they're looking for putting in project in way such as of development okay putting in um or a business I think that's what
they so I'm going to say I'm not too worried about the refutes and waste disposal methods those are going to be handled or when you go to Du house the
yes um uh location herb oh yeah number 13 I think I think and it's not clear but the quarter quarter inch to one foot um on
the elevation it's just something that's been in what's funny is that's architectural scale yes it we don't even deal in architectural have to get a go get a new scale going to try to figure that one out so um and again if I'm correct what it is is that elevations or
any architectural lines that will be okay that's again for my business or something to add that oh you know what I I misread this it's not talking about the planet profile talking about facades okay that will be
addressed at plot plan not that it's going to come before the commission can go for correct yeah that's why I'm I'm not conc I didn't I misinterpret that that's okay I'm not concerned about it the curbing you said we're going to do um next one is the catch Basin to catch
Basin connections as long as in the maintenance plan you have something that probably States how you're going to you're going to clean them um whether it's yearly or something to that
nature because you're going to have to seeing that it's gravel um if we have a heavy storm it's probably going to wash into the base the cost of so um I I would definitely have
you if you're going to do this and want to know how it's going to be who's going to take care of it well and that maintenance PL is going to include that the maintenance plan will include inspections so yes yeah and the maintenance plan should because every
year we go through our catch base and it's okay and we again we suck up good yep that good yeah just a question well if I looked at you Temple Brook when there on your
so the the before and after to Temple Brook I mean what terms of water flow what what does that look like if you would to make a statement about so we have 40 acres give or take up here that're discharging I'll use the 25e storm as a as a reference
point under existing conditions it's about 60 let's call 60 65 CFS all right under propos I'm sorry I'm
sorry under existing condition of 25 years about 30 about 34 CFS under proposed conditions it's exactly the same now the overall Watershed is 400 Acres this is about a
tenth of the overall Watershed when you run calculations about 10 the flow so essentially and again I just I drew it on the computer screen off of your GIS so I came up with 400 Acres it could be 600 it could be 350 but we're talking
about about 400 CFS coming through here in a 25e storm we're contributing 34 but again what we're contributing is exactly the same right now and after he builds this okay any comments
from Yes um so the environment can you please just state your name I'm down here where everything to go it's not
done yet what's your address 229 South mons and in this swamp so I have no problem with this development um it's the third possibly the fourth development triy developer that's tried to develop this since the
80s the other ones didn't get through either from the planning board or the Conservation Commission but we're looking at this this is just a driveway so it's different than before but you said there's no need for an environmental impact study does that
trigger the Conservation Commission well the con does the Conservation Commission still get involved this proc the only other thing I'll say then is just that this gentleman was allowed to add an opinion that he thought a lot of things were
excessive all right um you keep saying this is Big Swamp area so I don't think the things that tyan Bon gave are accessible all right we want to do this and do it right so it doesn't end up on our prary that's my so
thank I I bought this it's steep I don't care what any went down is I mean coming off of um Island and walking right down through I've done it I think three times
so I I am familiar with problem and it is if you just look at the map out there it isn't that was the problem before was it's on the brige line hill side whatever that thing's called it's on the map so it it is it's it's a site not to be taken
lightly um I know when Mr Zino wanted to put put quite a few more houses through um so you're preserving at least some of the uh features that are
Co you system so again um I've walked it a couple times um it's deep I'm concerned about the driveway but if it's done right I hope
the um gra and just so you know there's as you know if you walked it there is like a path that's already there and we're we're and it's already somewhat cleared it's obviously grown in since it was
cleared was cleared but we're essentially following that that path and this the slope of the driveway itself is is not sweep at all it's it's it's slight it's just after you get the curb and you go out and then we're going down a 3 to1 slope which is not a a 3 to1
slope you can mow with a lawn M that's not I wouldn't consider that to be an excessive slope I I'm I'm in a different opinion and I'm not g to battle with with you okay you know um like I said coming down there and I'm
probably 10 years older now than I did it before and I ain't going to walk it okay we had some fun hauling water back there I'm sure trying to get back there to do um some perks or whatever whatever yeah that's why I said there's not much
material come out either it's based on how the the road is already there there's not much material that needs to be moved like that so mov stay there that's why cut and fil exactly
y That's why I'm impacting as a little amount of trees right that's revised plans yes so I guess we need to look see the revised plans and the revised you want to hold off on a motion
then until we get the revised plans and stuff I would respectfully the changes we you're making are not that difficult you can be done as condition so your planner can confirm they all been done respectfully request
that zoning in planning coordinator um however you want to do with chair she's got us in my face too in my face it's only every six
months um would you like go ahead oh yeah yeah sure does any other board members have any comments as to how they would like to proceive you comfortable conditioning
it I think yeah I think I condition I'm comfortable conditioning it you're well said you're okay with that are you so I would make a motion to
approve um the project which is just the driveway the site plan stated that are you just saying are you referencing the
S plan um and then a condition revising those site plan is just a driveway okay cuz this is what I'm okay I'm looking at this which includes the houses and everything else or the
envelopes so okay so not the subdivision plan site plan for the common driveway um on um
revisions yes the revisions the the cemental of the revisions that were discussed tonight yes at this meeting second all in favor thank you very much thank you good night ladies and gentlemen one last thing do we need Drive maintenance
agreement um the driveway maintenance agreement would go to that before the houses the lots are perre that would go within the house yes and another condition is that the r Hillside has to be done or no well R and
Hillside you're going to have to yeah R and Hillside um youve you haven't gone to concom yet no that's so we're we're not going to concern okay that our approval will
stand on its own if there's a change from pon and the plan would have to be revised thanks Chris thanks thank you take care bye recognize next blowing all right motion to adjourn the
public hearing all right now we'll open our regular planning board meeting um February 12 2025 at 7:25 p.m. our first order of business is 920
Lane home occupation come on down how are you good how are you all right so I am requesting a home office okay a new business that I'm stilling up great
what kind of business uh it's a nursing agency main purpose is to recruit nurses for hospitals okay [Music] um so just going to be you working out of your office yeah it does mean you
know everything is all virtual I'm not expecting anybody to be on site okay no employees do you have employees no employees the the employees will work at a hospital oh okay are you keeping your the
Landscaping home occup it's it didn't work out so your I just caught it IRS change the name to the new company yeah yeah you're going to have a sign or anything sign sign yes no business no no
no just going through no no yeah like there wouldn't be any sign any sign on you know and this just a new business you know I don't plan to be there forever yeah you know as I start start growing I'll move out and rank a new office
some okay no employees no no employees will be on site it's just it's a everything will be done believeit basically no noise vibration smoke um there would be no public
display of goods or wees no um no exterior storage of materials no all the store um be and uh no more traffic than would be generated
right sounds good to me anybody else motion to approve the home occupation for um nine perennial Lane second oh favor
I all right thank you thanks very much all right thank you Jo I guess um yeah now you can go to e to count cler for your business certificate you need it all right 159 North hunson
Road Russ Marton I'll R more you can last minute U yesterday enough sign hi I'm hi um I'm here with my father we're just seeking advice uh because we want a
have a u tiny C Business um in our lane we know that it is um right now uh under a business is business owning um but looking through the bylaws of 277 it says that Ling house um can
occupy five or more um uh OCC things at once which consider lodging um the our plan is to have at least um five of these set up um with targeting couples so at least two people the cabin set up
around about 50 to 30 ft apart from each other and I just want to see where we can go from there and see if you guys can help me out to go through with this okay this one yeah yeah um I did provide if
you guys [Music] um be this this be like it oh yeah a like this guys are they all the same yeah they're all the same yeah I figured that yeah you
guys don't want to be passing it around too much no but yeah so it'll be equipped um each cabin will be about uh 200 yeah it looks like yeah and then um they
will be equipped with a a cleen size mattress with um Frid and induction are they on Wheels they're mobile yeah they will be on Wheels mainly for moving in transport but uh once they're on site they'll be uh
possibly staying on site 32 John if you're trying to find it on the thank you read my mind de the table is going to be electricity hooked
up to them uh yes here and without me looking business it is business I put a map in your book it's own business it's like um the triangle spot yep yeah yeah this is
that section so the question that I have and I've had this previously was that the whole the whole lot is not business and this is my problem with
all of those along nor mons in road so um portion in the back end like thisa here so that's not but um
based on what I saw for business slot um they do say that a lodging house can be approved as long as it's approved by ports that's why right yeah I'd have to it's a special permit yeah
any comments me I'm going to say it's allowed special permit we'd have to see how you're going to configure it yeah I think I want to just see with what the report says before we
move on to any yeah and I'm not looking you can't put a hundred of them in there no no we don't need to do that many we want to keep it um kind of exclusive and very um quiet it's mostly to Target people that wants to get away from big cities to um enjoy the you know outside
of um or the nature yeah I mean water is going to be one of the issues that I foresee um electricity and septic okay or you know waste so those are some of the questions that I
have but that I would want to see on the plan what you wanna you know how you're going to access um I mean they look I'll be honest with you it looks like just a um you know the uh storage containers
that you see yeah we do get that L and and i' I've seen people put homes in there okay so um the creative thinking whatever um yeah I mean my feeling is you come back
to us and for for me i' look at it with an open mind and seeing how you want do how you want to configure it yeah because you're going to have to there is some wet land in there no so you'd end up having to go to kation um there's also natural heritage
up in that area the Box Turf I believe is a endangered spe species okay so you have to get to do some of this through natural heritage I I can't speak the natural
heritage I just know about it would this be seasonal or year round uh year round definitely with water step even if there's are they self-contained like they have like holding tanks for for the
we haven't that yeah we haven't got that far yet we we were thinking about SE things but I've seen some where they do have internal storage but they are be able to get up there with another with a vehicle that remove
it yeah looks like um some of it's gas fired ban um I know but there are like stes are inside IND okay those
induction so there's no no gas yeah so it be like electric heat or something yes outside fires that's another story well that would be yeah that's another issue that would happen we don't plan to
have any like building up like a um set pit or anything because I believe that will go into camp camping which we don't want which we won't be approved for that right probably just equi with a p table
call it a day you won't need a phone anymore yeah so so what is the use under lodging is that what you're saying yes I it under 2.77 right what's that
2.77 hotel in Taurus Court or lodging house that the one that you saw yeah this is on 14 I was looking at page 32 John's at16 hotels and motels type of
thing I don't know I I think those J what were you what did you say Madison I think those line same thing what he said hotels
motels what he 4.16 4.16 is hotels and motels so I'm not sure and what was your other one Madison 2.77 well no I was looking at the definition um yeah page 14 way back page 14 yeah for a
definition did you say 3.77 No 2 2. the definition is 2 I'm sorry but that's for definition yeah okay yeah table of use there's I went to the table of 4.16 and
4.17 lodging house lodging house or hotels motels so both of them are allowed in the business dist with a special permit how do you plan on like advertising is this like um so the aim to Target social
media is to Bam Tik Tok or anything that um well Facebook and um um a reservation will be done done online um specifically maybe a main website oh okay and then they come to the residents get their
keys and stuff like that yeah yeah which would have be office yes yeah we do have a grandfather building there that the zoning was assigned um so we plan to maybe use that as the office and the order the main
operation before like any cleaning um yeah are you guys local do you guys live in h yeah want to make sure they're around move from New York right of the country
yeah okay yeah so you understand yeah I just I just want to also ask like if what are the next step that you guys want to see if I do come back and to bring back to so my thing is I want an
engineered plan in other words a survey plan yes similar to that with the SES positioned showing where um and some type of um and this is all new so may
have to go through a couple reiterations if you will but um a plan of um how you're going to get rid of the waste water power Etc you know the infrastructure that you're going to have
to have to serve each one of your sits if you will okay um size of the building you're going to have um how you're going to stay away from some setbacks you know
with your plan I don't want you approach too close to uh neighbor property that access roads to get that's the access yep yeah that would be on the site
y okay I'll I'll have that yeah and then you see Joan she a planner tonight she will you're uh so is he going right for the special permit or are we doing a preliminary
do a preliminary I think we should because we don't know if it's on allowed use and all that we have to see we don't do we let's do it let's see preliminary preliminary plan yeah before
you go hard wire okay all right yeah now when he submits that you want all those the waste water the power the infrastructure all that on that preliminary plan on a plan as if it's going for the per trying to show as much as possible yeah as much as possible
because like I said we've never done this yeah so we're going to have to have look at what you want to do we're going to have our input then you may revise the plan you may say no I don't want to go any further you know whatever so you
may there may be some issues that we need to work out between the two of us planning board and yourselves and um once we come to an agreement then you would submit for a special permit and that would give you
the approval okay or or not okay the special permit would involve all your neighbors around you okay so yeah you know they may have some issues also that's why that that okay have you guys
talked to conservation yet oh not yet that probably be a good next up too just to start that conversation yeah you can start [Laughter] yes thank you yeah you're welcome thank
you thank you yes can we keep the pictures of course all yours excellent I'm not sure if I like the coffee that's thing you always bring your own app very much thank
you all right what [Music] thinking you want to come down here feel like you can't hear me I know it's okay let's see if I okay what um
what do we want to do next go home what's that thing for solar it has to be in a parking lot and a so you should see he's actually like beding all right so battery energy storage systems yes I did a little research and
I spoke with some people yeah um nobody had good answers for me because it's still so new there we okay so that's yeah kind of what I found do so the big the stuff I kept seeing was compliance with UL
9540 which has to do with battery performance checks functionality checks inverter performance checks thermal monitoring and safety inspections I couldn't get any more specific than that on like what the actual test is and I don't know if we're going to I don't think we need to I
think this is a real good outline for what we want okay um and then and then just referring to NFPA 855 which is the stationary energy storage system which has to do with the site layout the fire protection everyone I talked to the biggest thing was fire
protection um and some people I spoke with said that most of the equipment in these is probably smart enough that it's self testing pretty regularly so they're it is in addition to this so that I don't know is what it
is [Music] um so I think we can try to add that somewhere do we have you have the B do I have it andad do you have them you should have the new revised bylaw and the two
attachments in tab number four I didn't I don't think so yeah well is it in there no as the two attachments there I have the attachments yeah here they're right here because I printed them at the last minute one two three
four five we try I don't have yeah there you go so why don't we just we'll just read through it and then we'll figure out where we want to add this in that work
you want to read through I think we just read read through the draft and if you see anything speak up and then if you see where we should add in the compliance stuff we'll not it e yeah she just wants us to read through the whole thing the new revised draft
yes see if we see any glaring errors anything in red is I had a question when you get to whenever something's red first stage no keep going no right the beginning no that that should have been changed that's
okay final I moved it over that's fine yeah make this [Music] you never oh yeah she said did everyone get to
biomap yet when you on the biom map you guys had asked me to ask conservation if it's a map they use are you on what page is it John's looking at me you didn't get to bio map yet I I don't read it that way go ahead
oh well in biom map was something you asked the board asked of conservation uses that and if so to keep it in they do have a biom map and they do use it okay we keep that yes I didn't see it was it in red yeah except first page
four the planner made a mistake it's E10 the planner there's no page there's no page numbers yeah maybe we could add page numbers I will when it's finalized I'll put the pict I'm walk
plan what shotty planner well you know the 12,000 that I make you know vegetation buffer I don't know if you wanted to say vegetative buffer or veget ation buffer is in our bylaws for like in the golf recreational I think
it's called a vegetative buffer any vegetative I think we said vegetation so I'll change that yeah we say uh right at the top in U purpose
paragraph you say renal of restorage systems that address Public Safety what page page two the purpose of the BW yeah yeah can we say we say protection of the town and private
drinking water supply can we use the word aquifer protection of the aquifer and drinking water supply yeah sure yes where where you like the fourth the fourth sentence down yeah yeah
modification REM Energy address public safy protction private District I don't know how to spell this word minimize um natural heritage also I think you
want to right yeah do you have all that you ready I got it you do yeah natural heritage all that no I was I didn't get that sorry
so protection of the Town aqu public impr private Drinking Water Supplies Aqua for protection district I'm on we still on purpose
right say that are you still on purpose yeah protection of the endangered species [Music] what was the protection of the aquer is that you said yes protection of the Town aqu overlay
District however you public and [Music] private in public and private thinking water supply section species super long sentence sorry was only an out
yeah the hey [Music] your information yeah where you operation meance yeah conclude okay actually it's I think you actually this operation and maintenance
documentation shall include the we say include the following testing scope okay list all that and we could say the 9 y 954 NFPA and those okay so you're not
putting to I can't see it's kind of repetitive yeah I about so you want testing first you don't have to rewrite it just what how what order yeah [Music]
one and then I'll say in compliance with three right yeah and then operations I think that's what we G to say so yeah I think that that two includes yeah you taking that all up I got to be
part of this that's what the battery before T C all right just put that okay so I think that could just be part of this all right that's going under um what is that
di so has anybody gotten to the operation and maintenance part yet so I think um what we'll do is we'll say operations and maintenance manual to include I will include the dialectric testing but then will also include this testing scope that I sent around and
then it will say in compliance with the UL 9540 as well as the nfda 855 and UL 1973 that seem okay to you you want to place it there yeah y in the yep okay
but you want to keep that line there period and then go right to there that's what you're saying we don't want this paragraph in there here okay like this like this right here that make sense yeah well it won't
then I go do it on it does operations and maintenance being to include the following testing scope that's one of the tests that we're going to require okay in compliance with that law and then the next okay good and
um you're gonna have a yearly yeah yeah yearly and the results sh forwarded to toine Town's designated engineering yep yeah all test reports will
just it doesn't say it goes to the engineer though I don't think it says it could just right okay so this the period and then this goes at the end so we're going to say yeah all
testing testing reports to be review by engineer firm to measure the uh I think I need to measure the system system perform or form yeah system yeah system
liability insurance stuff to we using say annual evidence yes I think we should yeah how slowly I wrote for you huh I wrote slow you read my handwriting um
we done we're still reading through it yeah e m e [Music] yeah about what where's all the stuff
did what am I gonna do just just refer to the CMR whatever just part of like this not going no go for for this [Music] it
did yeah judge it was the judge I was like who this the WR board member talking I could not remember and I was like judge and then I sudden I like oh oh my God I don't know how to use my
phone pix don't know good question yeah asking last yeah what's the 88 the top paragraph the last we and grab it that was there I know I don't know so did I highlight it yes
I what it was was from where yeah let me pull the the wear original thank you so how does it what is the last sentence abandon is it under that notize it is in
there their original so I don't know I just highlight it because I didn't know it's probably the tyo that's in the we original [Music] document the town May out its discretion
and utilized at 88 for the removal of a system and restore the site in accordance with commissioning plan utilize the something for removable in the systems I can call an a utilize is that in any other like is not
something they just pulled from the n one that would be in one of the other ones that one of the other on bylaws yeah if they just like pulled it from the M I have them all there you changed that 88 to decommission and
pl we're looking in the other bylaws to see if it's something they pulled from yeah I think that he's right though I think that's yeah the decommissioning fund which is uh under decommissioning number two we have where reference
separability take that okay no [Music] I just put on S home discover here in 40 minutes really still
moving on half day down well I the end because I had a question on that one so I think 88 becomes the decommissioning fund okay I can't even read my own [Music]
handwriting all right so are you still reading I'm good you're good yeah you think that's great good to go no but I would ask I don't know from Gina I read this over and I think it's excellent oh thank you yep very concise
very well you want to drop actually in all honesty I see so much more this that could be added to this bylaw yeah and I just don't even I don't even know where to start well you got to start somewhere
yep so that's why um where you have I stud Joan huh noise study yeah where I put at gillow at her stuff I would just put
everything that she has here in that okay everything I it's kind of very yeah no it's you know it lays out I'm sorry all I was gonna say was one of the things I didn't add so I wasn't sure was about
construction noise because I know a lot of times they'll bring me batteries on site before the site's actually energized so there'll be diesel generators running for 6 to eight months and I don't think anybody should have to listen at that for 24 hours a day seven days a week but I wasn't sure if that should belong that should be in the
noise or if that should be more generalized like having con you know what I'm saying so you just do got to do work hours yeah I did have a work hour thing I just didn't put it in because I wasn't sure I think that would be a condition okay okay of the special in
other words you've got one year that we would allow you know uh onsite generators Etc blah blah blah equipment to build the site after
that you know this would become an effect yeah your noise standards okay so that's a that would be a condition okay because it's not permanent the generators aren't going to be permanent right you would
hope so you understand construction related noises you know you heard it in wilham because they had to hammer I wasn't I no no I'm I'm saying wilham the neighbors had a problem because on uh
mayard Road I think it was or three rivers or mayard Road um when they put that big site in there they were up there with that Hamer breaking up rocks Y and that was plan so you know construction noise is
going to be allowed for a period of X right after that this noise goes into EV okay I was I was more concerned about them bringing the batteries on site and just running the generator all day all night to keep that HVAC system running
until they hooked it up and that's okay as long as we don't have to hear it I guess because how long's it going to be I don't know I've heard I've read it happened in Conway it was six to eight months of the generators running okay and I think pbpc said the same thing in
their best solar practices gu yeah so one of the things is we know it's going to terminate at the small right so the people around them know that we're going to hear noise for this period of time after that we should not hear anything
okay you have to give the you have to give them something I try I Tred to be as um try to follow in what Mr Davenport said try to make it as strict as possible yeah no I I think it's very good it's
not it's not beyond the scope of what they could do okay especially the monitoring at the monitoring basic so I I'm going to make a suggestion that you know the summary report shall be made available on a monthly basis or
upon request to the Board of Health and the planning board but the planning board after we're done with this goes away okay so that you could take that that'd be fine no it's going to go to Board of Health and the um zoning enforcement officer the building department that's where it goes any
records should go to him and then Board of Health because it's a health thing and the Board of Health because it's a health what page are you um paragraph D I'm sorry the second the last or the the third from the bottom
yeah line the only other thing I didn't add because I couldn't really find too much research on it was anything with like electromagnetic interference yeah and I didn't know how to put that in so those are that that can
be that's a very debatable emps great we're going to stay awake okay okay that's how I felt about it too because I couldn't get anything concrete right it seem to be more maybe a wind issue than could be could be I'll be honest with
you who knows I know um you know if you live below a power line yeah man you get crazy like me but I don't we're g we're gonna complain the power lines so you you got that Jo
yeah I know I I wouldn't change anything else I think it's thank you appreciate that I worked hard on it no I you did very well and I I think Madison you this hits what I've been
looking for also I did I did do some research on the setbacks yeah um one I could find the restricted stepback I saw the battery was iner okay
and it was let's see front property lines and public WS of at least 300 feet setep back from side and rear property lines and public ways of at least 200 feet and then if it abuts an open field Farm or pasture it
has to have a setback on all sides of 400 ft that was spener yeah is that if it's collocated within a solar I want to say but I think that might have been on own thank I want to I'm trying to remember I read through so
many bylaws I'm trying to remember that's all right Spencer if you would just shoot that to J okay and I'll review it myself I guess I guess my other question this is to the board I realize I'm not on the board but I have I've a lot of time into this if I see
anything else that this point that I'd like to add like for example I think the um it says in there that the utility you have the site operator has to show a utility um evidence of a utility kind of utility connection it's
a yeah um a notification yeah documentation that shows the owner of the energy storage system has notified the electric utility of the installation I feel like it should just say evidence of interconnection service agreement yeah and that's we have that in our Solar B
right but it wouldn't I don't know it wouldn't it would have to be for a nonoc right to make it make it match putting it right there was there was a lot of stuff I saw I just wasn't sure how to get it
to all of you so you wouldn't have to read at well so what's we've gota kind of round wind it up yes yes what and and I'm going to be very truthful with you Gina what happens is because this is always a moving Target
yes okay the bylaws I mean our bylaw for solar has been changed three or four times okay um so I in the future I foresee it probably changing again okay so that's
one thing that it's constant right change these La you know I think he has a question yeah I I'm not the chair person I know I just anyone was
reading so the the volumes of the tears were they just copied from the we thing or did somebody they were the the tier levels yeah the tier levels those were actually came right out of um the
definitions for definition from one of them I think it was State the state state of M Metts yes that's how they qualify tier one resal yeah tier one and tier one's residential tier two is like small commercial small commercial yeah
yes so tier one it says uh who's per I'm G to quickly read one whose purpose is to store energy from residential solar yeah Energy Systems and then tier two is whose purpose is to store energy from
commercial solar energ systems right then tier three goes into the higher and those are from the state they are from the state just doing some of the research I had done on the on the on the UL
standards yeah I came across an an um international fire code that disagrees with those volumes and it's there's quite a difference in the the residential te okay I don't know so I think if it's international fire code I
think since we're a municipality we have to go by the state regulations by state state definition because ultimately that's your ahj is what suedes and the only other thing I wanted to say about that UL standard I've been
pulling my hair out this for a couple weeks I mean that whole standard basically covers the manufacturer and installation of the product after that it doesn't do anything so if you do send someone up to do inspection or something like that you
can't tell him to inspect to that UL standard because it doesn't exist there is no standard that exists right just it's a label yeah so that could be a problem when you do inspections as far as right you may have to a minimum ground fault or something like that um
so the ones that we added in that you probably didn't see do have that Cy there are spe there's specific tests this and this so this is what we're adding in I'm sorry okay drowning in
paper so it actually calls for like the battery performance testing it calls for right some but there's no still even with that though there's not like a specific test that we can say like do a needed test or yeah whatever exactly and and again it's not necessarily the test
what's the standard of the test that you're looking for you know if you do a ground fall check you allowed so many mamps what what's that milliamps yeah so many milliamps the ground but I mean I don't know who would publish that
exactly nobody wants to publish anything but they're very L like Madison said trying to get information on battery testing is oh there's none there isn't there's none so that's why I said and again Gina I'm
going to explain to you that as we go along we may have to change some of these okay in the future but right now this gets us to a point where battery performance checks we monitor okay and then the functionality checks the
inverter performance thermal monitering which and saf the inspection so those are done every year and then what I was going to say is once we get this in our bylaw the way it's formatted Joanne what I would say is let's re read it again I
think we're going to have to add and those reports again are going to be forwarded to um we have that in there yes we added it to the building to the town engineer and the testing is engine and the other thing I was going
to say would the uh the costs be borne by the operator yeah the evaluation cost so I guess one other question I have is that I saw some specifics about
lighting um oh the emergency response management yeah I did see a couple of bylaws that got passed that required a representative or an official who's like co-owner or cooperator of the battery they have to be here within two hours of an
emergency so should I gather that information and just send it to Joanne that's something like that where was that up is it already in there it's still what oh yeah it's still going to be burning
but it's not no I'm just thinking that it would be hard for someone who has a company in California with no R to be able to build one they have to have somebody on site they have to be responsible there has to be somebody who is the face of it as it burns
you know that that gets into fired yeah would be under I'm reading it right now emergency operation plan yeah I'll be honest a lot of the B service and repair personel anding
agreed notification department so it's in there what I'm saying is that it's there in a manner of speaking um that's up to the fire chief okay okay I'm not
going to step on his toes he can he can work that out with the operator he hasn't provided any imp to us I sent him an email and a followup yeah I know yeah so so not to cut you
off but so is the plan because I know the the table hasn't been adjusted yet since the first draft so are we what's the board's thoughts on allowing the the certain tiers tier one tier one you're going to put in R1 R six R4 R okay and then tier
two is going to be in business or commercial and then tier three and four would be the same tier three and four okay so tier one tier one is going to be permitted in R4 and R six is that what you're saying yeah so p and p okay
tier two is commercial yeah business is commercial is commercial and business the same they're two different districts yeah so you're allowing it's permitted in business and permitted in commercial yeah and that's it everything else is nose tier three is limited industrial
only yeah committed and Pier tier four is limited industrial yeah and NOS for all the rest okay well is it a permit it's not it would be special permit application right tier three and four tier three Spa yeah Spa what which what
do you want for that the most strict yeah well I guess I am a little confused about tier two because it does say in here we're allowing it where we allow
solar that's okay it's collocated it's oh yeah okay yep okay so collocated if it's located with the solar yes yes if it's not by itself it has to be in a commercial business
district is that what your that's what I'm thinking yeah I was shining my mind to visualize the table no no permit for I mean tier two no per TI three be right and everything else is no
y all right we'll get this these updated what our time frame to get it to um Town Council what's that we have to get it reviewed right by Town Council you want to clean it up and then well I'm just
trying to back into town meeting to figure out how much time we have SO meetings I just saw that that's what it made me think of it March that public CH yeah written down the
H so once you have the public hearing that's the draft you go with for for the warrant yeah okay after it's approved by Town Council okay right yeah are you g to have Town Council review before
yes that can take that's what I know that's why I'm got the Abu back yeah can we take I'm gonna ask if we don't review this tonight I put a little fck on my nose
and so what meeting is on got a new bylaw publishing it Town Council public hearing public hearing then town meeting then town cler right right so town meeting is May 12th we'd have to have a public
hearing they keep you can have it up to well no we're not I usually a precedent with that we're not I don't have my form in front of you've got to have it so many so many um weeks before advisory and oh when would when
would advisory have to know about the about either one of these yeah there's really no costs involved so do we have a date yet what's what's like what's the what is it what they call the Green Sheet date or whatever that well may first March 1st all warrant articles are supposed to have
ready yeah March well so they'll put a holder in it just they'll put a placeholder placeholder so March 1 so we've got to have this public hearing we have that public hearing no later than the end of March so from what I yeaha so last the 10th last March
26 what so the 10th of March is our last right now are last scheduled advisory advisory so so you're probably looking at the end
of March that's what we just said March 26 do a public hearing we do we do yeah that's a regular planning board then yeah so it would have to go to the paper um oh I'm sorry yeah I you got it
back into it 1 2 3 four 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 we have to be published on March 6 it's got to go to the paper on the 3 March 3D so by the 26th we've got to have this done so we need to get it to town ccil like tomorrow so check with
um tomorrow if you've got a minute Joan I'm here tomator I'll do it on when I come back next week I'm off tomorrow okay um well I know you can have public hearings right up to the town meeting
yeah so so you want to go April so then why don't you do it in April April add two more on that add two more okay yeah oh I might have a conference well I mean we don't have to
do it on the second we can do it on the third I mean the third Wednesday cuz there's actually an extra Wednesday in April yeah okay start so early extra what if we did the 16th 16th
vac that's no vacation for your kids is that is uh no it's not not okay April vacation is the next week okay my okay all right so we'll do the public hearing on April 16th or um well we can do them both in one night
singing we just do them both okay problem yes so that means you'd go to the paper end of March no nothing else will be scheduled April 16 yeah
16 so published May 27th and the 3D would have to go back on go March 24th to the paper so that would give us a couple more that no because I'm G do it I will
when I I have a form that I fill out there so many dates all right so April 16 public hearing for Adu and BSS
B well in the meantime you can take you all have these this one which one from Town Council you can all review them in preparation for I said no next meeting do your favor sorry having a little confused so the next planning board
meeting but whatever with February 26th so will we will we discussing the battery again or is this time then we s it we send the draft to Town Council to review so Mr Matthews asked me to send you the stuff about
spener y okay and then whatever else I yeah if you have it earlier I can send it out to my board and they can possibly look at it prior to I'll try to get it to is what I have what else I have okay no problem all right thank you for your
Pati registered unenrolled uh you ail April 16th that's not on the 9th and the 23rd right because I have a conference and I has a and there's so many Wednesdays in
April yeah so we're going to cancel the nth unless you guys still want to meet unless we have something okay consider canceling the nth and moving to the 16th that what you're saying
yeah all right so move to we adjourn this meeting right now at 8:36 PM second motion