Okay. Um, Maddie's going to be the chair is going to be about five minutes late. So, the board is just going to start reviewing um both proposed bylaws till she gets it. So, we'll be quiet for a little bit. Yeah. just like to take Delta. Yes.
Yeah. Forgot just any piece of it's recorded by now. I would do the same. Thank you. Yeah. Save you time. You have to rewatch all of it. Miss crossed off the or otherwise rented for a period
shorter than 31 device. Say that again. I miss it crossed. Hang it in there. didn't see the other thing. Yeah, she said your your risk bet um hold on. I have notes on say it's in
here which I'm fine with but I just missed that the first time. Yeah, hold on. I have her rough draft. She went through it all. That's ad, right? Yes. Because she didn't want to she didn't want to give a time a number of days. She says
you're better off just saying um referring back to the law, right? Want to specify who didn't? Town council. Oh, okay. But Maddie wants to leave. Maddie. Maddie. Um I don't have She said everything looked okay, so that's still
there then. Okay, good. But I have a feeling that should come out. I don't Which one are we doing? Which one's first on the agenda? Ad can't remember. Uh no battery. Battery. Okay. Should have started I
guess. Question on D page three. Battery. Yeah, battery. It says um what solar photo installations shall adhere to 50
75 foot setback 100 side. So which one is it? Add them together. Which page are you on? Page three. Third line paragraph. Second
line. It's confusing. Oh, it's 75. 75. We changed it to. It was 50. You left the word 50 in front of the 75. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Oh, yeah. Hi. Sorry.
Yeah, thank you. must I forgot to cross off of 50. Oops. On paragraph D, page three. We changed it to 75. Oh, I see. I messed up. Go see it.
Uh Joanne, what page seven number two where you spelled out DBH? Is it diameter? I googled it. Wait, where where is it on page seven? Uh, the top number two. Oh,
you just spelled it wrong. Supposed to be diameter. It is supposed to be diameter. Yeah, I spelled. Why doesn't it pick it up? You would think. I mean, D. Yeah, I got it. You catch Paragraph H. I was I just want to make
sure I did that right. You want your notes? How do you I did it side by side. Okay. Sorry. So, it's right. Yes. Guess a question on the fire protection, John. On the battery systems. Go ahead.
No, page on page four. Fire protections. I thought I thought, do you put these out with water? You know, is that just something else?
You know, is there more to this? And well, in talking with uh the firefighters, they said that the only thing you can really do is try and keep it cool with water. Yeah.
Until the energy in the battery. So that's kind of No. Okay. Anyone see anything else that I missed? Working on it.
Changes from last year. This one I didn't find anything else. Just the two. She's they found page three. A typo, but she's got Yeah. crossed up the 50. The 50 should put 75 in parentheses. But yeah, I missed that when I compared it.
uh page 6 7.182. Do we need to put a definition for abandoned in here? Do you have it in quotations? Uh is that in the definitions of the in the bylaws or like in the the
What? Abandoned. Abandoned. 7.182. Page six. I can't hear. Says 7.182. The word abandoned. What page is it? Six. Six. In parenthesis you, but we don't have a
definition for abandoned. Your hands right. Okay. What section? 7.182. Oh, 882. Okay, we don't have the definition. Let's do what our original
comment must be. Not by pack 7.179 is wait abandonment that was in the original that was in the original um from where now 7.1 79 79 is our conditions for abandonment.
All right. So I think we just get rid of that parenthes. Yeah, I do too. Abandonment 7.182 striking that. Yes. We don't have a definition for period. Yeah. Yeah.
Where are you seeing that? We do have on page right above page five. Yeah. Okay. And I didn't give you I can still make copies of the table of you weren't changing that. Correct. Correct. So it's
staying as is. I want to just make sure before I send it there 87 was it already done? I see a good number 11.
How are you? Another day. [Music] Well, security lot of feelings train some really. I thought my son's okay. They're 14, but he's only 190
pounds. He's 64. I don't know where it came from. Not Bailey. Six feet. Are you guys still going through battery energy storage? Yes. Yes.
Allergies. Mhm. The pollen is finally I just thought I might cough every ter sinuses are eyes are sticky like joans. I'm at the point where they got to be pulled out. Thank you.
They make eye drops now for like people who work on screens all day. My glasses. You stare at that. Your eyes just optometrist claim it doesn't make difference all day. Doesn't do anything
to your eyes. Most contacts don't bother me. Is that coming? Well, there's probably other reasons. Probably the medical Christina, were you good with that table? Not to add anything to this, right? Yes. Yes. Can I I'll take that
because you know what? I'm going to forget to send it um to town administrator with this. It's perfect. I wasn't even at this point. I don't know why I'm reading it. Yeah. Get caught up.
like that. I got appointed as the CP representative and I wasn't even here. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. By the way, okay. No, the the tie line to that was that if there's ever if you ever have to
go and you can't go, I will go in your place. So, don't feel pressured. [Laughter] Sorry about that. We figured you'd find out eventually. We discussed it beforehand and I pretty much agreed to. We're like a We're a team.
Yeah, we're a team here. Tag team. Tag team. No sounds like but it's not. Sorry. Another but it sounds like it sounds All right. Any additional comments to battery energy? John, are you still
reading it? I I Go ahead. Texting. Pardon me. Texting? No, I'm looking up words. Totally kidding. I'm just looking up to see. We're looking up words if they if they I'm just kidding. I know. If technically they these some of this
stuff can be done. I'll just you can move on if you We were double checking. So, so page three I'm changing cutting out 50. Yep. I'm just making sure I've got all the comments. On page six I'm saying groundmounted solar
energy system is abandoned period under Okay. On page seven on fixing diameter was cut out. Y right. Yes. And I think that's it. And the table of
use I'm attaching to it. It hasn't changed. Correct. Was it a motion? Well, yes, we can. Well, I was told by
Rose Don is doing um his recommend um what are you calling it? The draft letter. Yeah, but yeah, that would come to the board, but then the board has to
vote and agree because it has to come from the planning board, right? So, we'd have Do you have that? I don't have it ready yet, but I'll have it in a couple days. Okay. 4 a.m. tomorrow. So that's passed out. Put on a pot of coffee. Before you send it in, I'll have it. I promise to do my homework. Okay,
good. So, um, that would go with that would go with the bylaw to town administrator as part of would that be would that be distributed at town meeting as part of the bylaw? No, I think that just goes with the attorney general, right? After
it's assuming it passes that, right? Exactly. Okay. So, we won't need that to give to town administrator. Okay. So, you'd have to vote before a town meeting to accept that, have it come from you guys. Okay. And then she said if you want a legal position memo, she can
write up a legal position with cases to substantiate your points. However, there's not that many cases if you decide you want it. Yeah. But just just telling you what she said.
So, that so this read she say about One of the questions we have is that it wasn't attached to the warrant. So, are we going to have to read it at town meeting the whole bylaw or or do we need
a motion to uh wave the reading? You know, have copies of it there at town. That's what we got to figure out. Yeah. She said she said we distribute copies at town. I don't have to. I don't believe it has to be read completed in its entire 11 pages. That's 11 pages
admitted to them. I'm pretty sure that's what that's what you said last very clear that if they shoot this down then it's a free Yeah. So this one I'm giving pass it or they can do whatever they done. Once it's done
made the changes once I make these changes I'll give it to him. Yeah. So this is the final make the changes. Does anybody want to make the recommendation at town meeting for this? Yeah, we got to do that. You'll do it. You want to make it at town meeting? Well, no. I'm saying who wants to get up
at town meeting and talk about this? Does somebody have to vote on We have to vote to recommend it. To recommend it. I know. I'm just Okay. I know. I'm just asking. I'll do either one. Who's going to talk about it at meeting? Yeah. Yeah.
One of you guys. Yeah. Just, you know, we I'll write something up. You'll tell me if it sounds stupid. Okay. I'll do either of them. I don't care which one. All right. Now, we'll now somebody can make a motion to recommend this to town meeting. Right. Yeah. I move we
recommend the proposed bylaw for battery energy storage systems at the May 12th town meeting, May 12th, 2025. I second that. All in favor?
I Great. All right, we'll look at the ADU. There was some questions on gross floor area and how it was consuming on multifamily. I did get a document some roads. Yeah. Sorry. I have a question.
Something moving into a table. We have we we have it. It didn't change from the last time we reviewed it. change. Oh, so you're just doing changes? Yes. Did you want to take another look? You want to see it? Yeah, it's okay. I just the same. Oh, yeah. Oh, the
battery one. Yeah. Go ahead. If anyone wants to know what the definitions for multif family and how you compute um the gross floor area, I did get it from Rose. You raised the question. I did. What did she say? It's a lot you can read. You want to see
if and then pass to John. Sorry. No, you're fine. I'm just reading the highlighted stuff which just confirms exactly what we looked up last. This one's easy. All you got to do is read A through D. I know. I forgot to speak the whole
purpose. It's not as if anyone wants. Thank you. suited to speak to the bylaw on solar and I would be more suited to the ADU. Wait, what? John better suited to speak
to the student if he can because he's on advisory. I just want to feel the questions. No, that's all good. We can go further. I'll be there. You want to do it? I didn't say I want to do it. I said I'll be there. I have to talk to the veterans.
Make sure you tell them that if I'll be I'll be right there next to you. By law doesn't pass. Then it's just a free, right? There is no bylaw and they are allowed to build it. So I take a picture so I can read it while you're reading
it. I I'll be right there next to you. Or I can not the tiny cabin. I don't know that that would be an overly lucrative. All right. Sold business, right? Not here anyway. You
didn't like that. Whatever you said. I was like, "Good." Yeah, that's like a big thing out in like the I mean, I see how it would be a lucrative thing in Birkers. Yeah, but I
don't think anybody's like dying to come out. I wonder where I can stay in Handen, Massachusetts. I don't like this part. What part? It says the multif family gross floor area. They're counting every floor, every space, and then they can do
half of that or 900. I didn't read it yet, but that was that's where the question was raised by me. Yeah. So it's the sum of the areas of all stories of the building of the compliant ceiling height pursuant to the building
code including basements lofts intermediate floor area tiers measured from the interior faces inter walls from the center line walls buildings dwellings units but excluding crawl spaces garages and
parking areas and attics bottom paragraph where she highlighted confirmed what we looked up last time, right? where you're just taking the largest where are the multiple right so it's right what she said is so if it's a two
family you just take apartment or house you take the bigger footprint and that's what you divide it in half that's right it's not combining both it's not a com combination of all the floors Joanne did the ADU apply for something
or somebody came the words on the bottom. Did they apply or were they just questioning where there are multiple principles of the lot GFA of the largest principal dwelling shall be used by all means but
it doesn't specify I don't know if it was a T or D a house on my street that could definitely make theirs well it would be part of their principal so that's I have a question So that 900 for the ADU
doesn't count towards accessory buildings. So you can have half your gross area for accessory buildings and the ADU. Yeah. And the ADU does not count towards any of that, right? Okay. Just to clarify. Well, that's a good question. When taking into account accessory buildings, you cannot take
then we have the ADU. Crazy. I can only focus on one thing. Oh, really? There's not much you can do about that. ADU. Yeah. It's get passed to the state. This ADU thing right after you wrote the one
last year. Like love it. Yes. Did you know it was coming and that's why you wrote the other one? No. No. No, we didn't. We just wanted to get something something on the book because otherwise there was really no
apartment over. I'll write something up and send it to you. You want me to write something up, Maddie? And send this to you can review it. Do you want me to talk for this one? Sure. All right. Yeah, I am a horrible public speaker.
If I could sit up there, I think I'd be fine. Fanning. I need to stand. All right. Is it proposed that we're going to include this in the bylaw? Well, you're going to include mass general law
in the I don't know. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. What? Oh, right here. The definitions from MGL. Do what do you think? We do that. Have we done that? Is that I just feel like this is kind of a
unique thing. Well, we've referenced We've referenced it so many times. So, we might as well just add it. Well, so what's the difference between this and well, I guess the first one and our definition? So, if they amend if they amend, we'd
have to amend our bylaw. Is that what you want or not really? Would you just ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra rather just say mgl4, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I think because then you have to
go to the town meeting to it becomes a maintenance issue. Yeah, that's up to you guys. I'm just Good point. I think I'm What if they change what if Matt changes something and we don't like
makes a difference. Could we put this like a date to this right here? Well, then but either way, even if it does change, maybe I still have to go back and amend it. I mean, I don't think that this is too far off of our definition, so I'm okay with getting
rid of it and we referenced it in the front on the that's the ship, right? Yeah. Anybody else? Do we reference paragraph three? Yes. Paragraph three anywhere? Yes. Under page. Yeah. I say we don't
include it. So take it off. Yes, please. Yeah. And third page, it's Yeah. What's the piece? Permitted. Okay. Special and is not correct. Okay, I'm good. I'm
good. You need a motion, please. Uh, put a motion for to go forth to the town meeting with for the accessory dwelling unit ADU bylaw amendments.
Second. All in favor? All right. So between now and town meeting, do we have a meeting? No. No. No. So when will we vote on accepting his document? It'll have to be on So how quickly after if
assuming everything passes at town meeting, how quickly after that do we have to send it to the attorney general? Okay. So our next meeting literally is No, we're I don't think we're going to meet the week of town meeting. Usually we don't. Right. What? We don't usually meet the week of town meeting our board.
No. No. So we wouldn't meet until the 28th. Okay. Um I have Is it 90 days to submit? Can't I think Well, let me ask you a question. Your
next meeting scheduled meeting should be the 14th of May, right? Is that when you want to I thought we should usually don't meet the week of town meeting. Town meeting's the 19th if I'm correct. That's the 12th. Oh, that's
the Oh, wait a minute. That's when you got to go vote. Okay. Yep. I'm sorry. Okay. So, no problem. So, we'll do the 28th. That'll give you time to assuming it passes, then you can write. We can compile it all.
8 mill Yes. Fan mail. We're gonna plan to um recommend or approve the letter whatever the terminology is on the 28th of May. So that gives us time after town meeting to put it all together. Yes.
To vote. It's our report. Yes. [Music] Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. So, you guys can just to make up with my mind. This is
because we need some bylaws because some builder can go to Joemo and Hampton that lived here forever and has 150 acres, beautiful that he used to farm and buy it from him because that's
his nest egg. He buys it. Joe Schmo goes to Florida and and piece of crap Charlie goes to the federal government and uses that 150 acres for these little small dwellings for every person from the
third world that came in through our border over the last four years to live. You can't put more than one. I can only have one. Only one limit to one. Yes. One per property. Oh. principal dwelling. So the guy that principal
dwelling if there's three dwellings then they can have three of them on the property. It's one per principal dwelling. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So the person that came in here that you were talking about earlier that was a different that's not an ADU thing. You want to do camping? That's a business. That was a camping guide. That's a
business. It's a business. Yeah. because that area that he was looking into is is so this isn't like like the solar scam where they buy the land and then they get funded and they and they put that out and just offer money. No,
this is like if you want if your daughter wants to buy your house and build you a little house on your property. Oh. So you could stay on the property and they could take care of you. Yes. Like a cassita. Tiny cassita. So although if your analogy were used that
150 acres Yes. and a developer wanted to come in and put in um say instead of 150 home 100 homes or lowinccome housing no no principal dwellings then they can add another
hundred of accessory dwelling units. You understand? You have to have one principal. So if somebody wanted to develop Okay. Okay. They could then develop a piece of property and add accessory
dwelling units to the principal principal home. Yes. And they could be like small homes 900 square ft at the most depending on the principal dwelling units. And they have to be attached. No, they really don't. Or by a breezeway or
something, right? Not anymore. They can be standalone. Oh, stand alone. If you're going to um present this at time meeting I'm just clarifying bed every night. I'm just clarifying really let it sink in. I'm going to read the solar one every day.
How far can they be from the original dwelling? Is there a set regulation like so many weeks? So there is there is when you say from the principal dwelling depending on the location but we have
them from the setbacks on the house property property line so okay so in other words they can't how many feet if it's the front back side whatever okay okay not so much from the dwelling
pardon me not so much from the dwelling not so much from the dwelling the principal dwelling Right. Just the setbacks of the property. Correct. Okay. Okay. I have a question. So, do these ADUs they still have to go through like conservation for the wetland things? You
are. Yes. They still have to. And even though it's permitted, they have to give they have Oh, yeah. They have to do that. So, it doesn't mean if we take that that 100 150 acres, right? And somebody gets to be able to put a hundred homes on that. Okay. doesn't
mean they're going to be able to do a 100 ADUs because of the issues with conservation, right? And you also have to make sure that the septic and water supplies are adequate. Yes. Thank you.
Find table seven. Table seven is right in the beginning of the No, that's six. Now, table seven is from the beginning of chapter seven. Yeah, I'll pull that up. So, that gives you the blue sheet right
there. I will set the wheel. All right, John. It was brought to my attention that May 14th would be your last meeting. It would be, but it's so Would you like Joe Galabati's birthday? Oh, so you
Do you have plans? No, I don't at this time. Well, so if you want us to meet that day, that's okay. I'm okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, I won't be able to sign anything to We need him. Well, that you're you're have how many applicants for my
position? Well, no. No. I'm talking about do we need you to vote to have the letter of recommendation or whatever Don's presenting as you were part of this whole process. Do we need his vote to have I think he should Okay. So,
well, I my vote would be that I rest assured that Mr. Davenport will put together a solid um letter of recommendation for this. Um but you're asking people vote vote wise if we need
to have him. Yes. I'm wondering I I can ask town council. You're going to ask town council or whatever. Yeah, I just want to make sure you don't have to be here to accept and vote and accept that letter from the planning board for town meeting. I I don't know, but
I'll ask just in case. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Town meeting will be over, right? Right. Mhm. Well, bylaw will be Well, so the whole point is that the bylaw gets passed and then we have to vote to send this letter to the attorney general. Right. So, it's just a matter of if we need you to be part of the vote or not.
That's from the board. Yes. Right. That's what the letter. That's what I'm Yeah. Yeah. So, I'll find out if it makes a difference. Okay. Can't get rid of you. I don't think he's liking or whatever makes that much difference. The one on
the record that you voted for this letter the legality. You worked your butt off, too. Oh, good. All right. [Music] He wants He wants a boo. He's going up with Katy Perry.
Many dump at the top. Have people looked at the meeting minutes? Yeah, you have to. I have not. So, I really didn't one. I don't know. There's some How many do you have? I had more, but I did give him two because I think we were doing Well, why do you have primary?
Oh, that's I was like I had two. No, there's been a pile of more. Now you can add the properties cuz I stuck them in my bed. Oh, the other put a line here. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm
kidding. So long ago, that I only have two. Yeah. 33 33 34 one house here. Oh, I'm sorry. Um I read 2024. Build a house here. Oh, the
date is August 14th. 2024. August 14th. So now they build a house here and they build a little one there. Now they can have three. So each princess so they have the properties in the decision. There's a special permit that needs expensive. Other than
that, I have to make a motion to accept the uh note of the change on the first line. I didn't bring them because I mean you were doing permit. I got it. I got it. Got it. Thanks. Okay. I just don't have
my key. You have an extra key in your All favor. Where my key? Right in front of the or you want to just unlock the door and just open everything in there. Yeah, I will. Thank you.
I already reviewed the minutes. What do you want? The paper. Did you want me to take notes? Just put the minute approved and it changes or write it right on the minutes. Okay. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I won't miss that one. days.
I went through I went through them quick. Sorry, I'm leaving. You don't Sorry. [Music] Okay, you have all right. I have no problem. see anything on 2024F?
Nope. I make a motion to accept the minutes. Oh. Uh, what? Maybe we just do them all at once. Can we? Are you a guy? Can we do them all at once? Say hi, Joe. You don't like to approve them all at once, right? I haven't read them all, but I'm sure you probably could.
Bye. Thank you guys for all you do. You're welcome, ma'am. Joe, I expect to see it on the court. Uh oh, that's Joe. Okay, 2024 G under legal notices. Second line,
it says M O N Ht. Yeah, I marked that up already. Here, I'll put this on. uh on [Music] one didn't have a number 13 2024 supposed to say
voting miss and I when were you at November 13 2024 I'm I'm still in October I already went through all those I'm sorry Jesus I'm so confused. I'm confused, too. I
wasn't reading that. Yes, I went through. Let's go each one individually. Agreed. Yes. Sorry. No, it's fine. When are we're going to start with E. So, here we go. Yep. 2024. E, F, and G is what I have in my hands. E was the
one with the permit. Yeah, be corrected. F had none. I I made the motion. Yep. Don made a I second to approve it with the All in favor? I I F it looks like didn't have anything.
I think you need to write who I do. Just do initials. Yes. Do the same to me. Make the motion, right? Yep. Got it. Move it as is. Yes. Yes. Second elevator. Hi.
Oh, on 2024 GD. Yep. With the change in the second sentence during the six month moratorum. with the amended thing. Second paper. Yeah. I
All right. I'm on 2023D now. October 23rd. I didn't find anything. I'm missing 2023 D. Open a minute for case 2023D. Second.
All in favor? Hi. Right now, I've got November 13th, 2024. It's a two-pager. The only thing I found was the voting one fourth line. What was your comment? The fourth line
down spelling voting's missing an I. All in favor approve 40 platting. All right. Uh motion the noted changes. Second favor. I All right. Then we've got the regular
meeting for October 23rd. Motion to approve regular meeting minutes for October 23rd, 2024. Second. All in favor? I We're on December
11th, 24. Yes. last time the one that I'm I wasn't the president know I to approve the public hearing page 2024. I
second. All in favor? I December 11th. Yes, sir. Oh, this is one March 26th of last week. 16 Summers Road. I think she spelled the guy's name wrong. motion regular meeting for December
11th, 2024. And there was one typo. You did it. Yeah. Um she spelled somebody's name wrong. Number three. Oh, guns. Gonzalez. Yeah. Second. All in favor? I don't name any
Okay. So, you're on uh page 2023. Yes. We'll approve the public hearing minutes for case 2023D. Second. All in favor? I. All right. Last but not least,
Motion to approve regular meeting minutes March 26, 2025. One of you all have to second it. I wasn't second. I So I'm gonna read
any other business. Don, if you don't have to come back on the 14th, thank you for rejoining the planning board. Oh, been an interesting interesting run. It has been