Adequate notice of the June 12th, 2025 meeting of the township committee has been provided in accordance with the over public meetings act by posting written notice and agenda of the meeting on the bulletin board the municipal building 10 township of Hannover and by hand delivery mailing or faxing such notice to the following newspapers. Mars
County Daily Record the store ledger to Hannover Eagle and we're found the same with the township clerk. Roll call. Committeeman Cahill here. Committeeman Feramosa here. Committeeman Francioli here. Committeeman Mahalo here. Mayor Gallagher here. Five me five members in attendance. Okay. If you would please
join us for the pledge of allegiance and please remain standing for a prayer led by Deputy Mayor Mike Malco. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. One nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all. Almighty God, please watch over and guide this governing body with an abundance of wisdom and understanding to help make the best decisions for our residents. Please bless our first responders and township volunteers who help keep us all safe. Also, bless our
township employees and residents. Lastly, please let us pray for the men and women of the US Armed Forces who stand in vigil over us always. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Good evening everyone. First on the agenda, we have three proclamations to read into the record. Joe, would you do
the honor, please? Okay. Thank you very much, Christa. Okay. The first proclamation is a proclamation of the township committee of the township of Hanover designating June 2025 as LGBTQIA+
pride month in Hanover Township. Whereas the township committee of the township of handover welcomes and encourages diversity and inclusion with the handover community. Whereas June 28th marks the anniversary of the Stonewall
uprising in New York City, a pivotal moment that sparked the modern gay rights movement and is commemorated nationwide during Pride Month to support the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
queer, or questioning, interex, asexual, and plus community. And whereas celebrating Pride Month raises awareness, provides support and advocacy for the LGBTQIA+
community and serves as an opportunity for education, dialogue, strengthening alliances and building understanding. And whereas despite remarkable progress toward acceptance and equality, members
of the LGBTQIA+ community continue to face discrimination, intolerance, and hate. And whereas we must commit to supporting and accepting LGBTQIA+
individuals, especially youth who are statistically more likely than their peers to experience bullying and violence in schools, face higher rates of depression, struggle with substance
use, and attempt suicide. And whereas we must remain diligent in deterring oppression and discrimination based on sex, gender, identity or expression and sexual orientation.
And whereas protecting the rights of every individual enhances and stren strengthens the dignity, value, and unity of our entire society. And whereas the township of Hanover
affirms its support for LGBTQIA+ residents and stands with them in protecting their civil rights and their ability to live openly, equally, and without fear. Now therefore, be it resolved by the Township Committee of
the Township of Hanover on the 12th day of June, 2025, that the governing body recognizes and supports the month of June 2025 as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
queer, or questioning, interex, asexual, and plus pride month. be further resolved that the governing body urges all residents to celebrate and promote a culture of inclusiveness and acceptance during this month and
throughout the year. Signed, Thomas A. Gallagher, Mayor on behalf of the township committee. [Music] Yes, I am. Thank you. Um collection
[Music] everybody. Can I say a few words? Very welcome. [Music] So, um, Mayor Gallagher, members of the township
committee, um, with the rise of extremism and division in our nation, it's more important than ever that we recognize those among us who have not, um, been not only marginalized, but also attacked for being who they are. We must recognize and celebrate the members of
our own community in a positive way. Love is love. God is grace. Nationality, sexual orientation, religion, or gender identity. This is the sixth year in a row that Hanover Township has presented
um a pride proclamation. Some years without even being asked. So, I just thank you for that. Um the month of June has been nationally recognized as Pride Month, and we thank you for that recognition in Hanover Township. Um,
when we celebrate members of our community, we encourage their participation in that community. We bring them out of the shadows and most importantly for our young people, we send the message that we accept them no matter what. We let them know and we let
the community at, oh, sorry, the whole thing, but you guys are really fine. I'm pretty loud. Sorry about that. Oh, and I should have said my name from Walen Hanover Township. Sorry about that. Totally blew it. Um, we let them know that all people
are welcome here and that we stand against bigotry and the hatred and potential violence that comes along with it. And so I'm so proud that this community stands for these ideals. Um, so with that, I thank you. I have a few
other words to say which are unrelated. Is it okay if I just really fast? Um, I know that you're all Republicans here. Um, but now is the time for every single person to stand up against the
fascism of the federal government. I'm sure you do not agree with their policies of ripping our rights out from under us. So, please, I ask you as individuals and committee members to stand up for the sake of your children, your grandchildren, and the welfare of
everyone you love. Thanks for putting up with me. Thank you, F. Okay, Joseph. Okay, our second proclamation is a proclamation of the Township Committee of the Township of Hanover, declaring
June 2025 as antiviolence awareness month in Hanover Township. Whereas, this proclamation declares the month of June 2025 to be antiviolence awareness month in the township of Hanover. in remembrance of all victims and survivors
of violence and to declare that the United States must do more to reduce all violence in America. And whereas the township's chief of police is charged with the highest responsibility in protecting the lives of all residents and the public in general. And whereas
law enforcement officers know their communities best and are most familiar with local criminal activity and how to address it and are best positioned to understand how to keep their citizens safe. And whereas preventing violence in
all forms is more important than ever by creating an environment that is safe for our municipalities and its citizens. And whereas the township committee petitions members of the Congress of the United States to take appropriate action in adopting and approving legislation that
will provide for title tighter control of weapons of all kinds, including universal background checks and encourage responsible ownership as in New Jersey and keep weapons out of the wrong hands. Now therefore be resolved by the township committee of the
township of handover in the county of Morrison state of New Jersey as follows. One, the township of Hanover hereby declares June 2025 as antiviolence awareness month in our community. The governing body encourages all citizens
to support efforts to prevent the tragic consequences of all violent incidents and to honor and value human lives. to the governing body also believes that it is necessary to generate greater public awareness by condemning all forms of
violence and the importance of education as the most effective tool in combating aggression and promoting a respect for life and human dignity. Three, the township committee petitions members of the Congress of the United States to
take appropriate action in adopting and approving legislation that will provide for the tighter control of weapons, including universal background checks and encourage responsible ownership as in New Jersey by keeping weapons out of
the wrong hands. Signed, Thomas A. Scallagher, mayor on behalf of the township committee. Thank you, Joe. like I just want to make one comment and we discuss Go ahead. I just have one comment after you. You go ahead, Bren. You go first. No, I I want to say uh
proudly that New Jersey out of all of our states, out of this nation, has the toughest guns and weapon control laws on the books. The amount of waiting time acquire a weapon, the amount of uh time
to do background checks, investigations uh before buying a weapon, uh on and on. If every other state followed suit with this template, we probably would have less issues with violent crimes throughout the whole United States
between gun shows, etc., etc. Uh so I am a strong advocate for the policies and procedures that we have used here in our state for registering weapons and background checks to asssure that the individuals
that own these weapons uh have been clearly um elevated as checked out. Period. Thank you. Thank you, Ron. The only thing I'd like to say, and we discussed this over the last couple years, is all violence. Um, I think if
everybody agrees on everything, somebody's not being honest. I think disagreement is healthy. I think respect is necessary. And I have somebody in my life that was hit with a pipe, and I told you this, Fran, that literally
watch TV for 10 years. I have a problem, and I don't think anybody should touch anybody. I think people should respect each other's space. And I don't think it's acceptable almost any violence anytime, even if it was in a sport, you also have to contain it. We
competed in karate war, fighting gear, we had referees. So I just wanted you to know that I think this is very, very important all violence because I think people should be respected. They should be entitled to their space. They should stay in their lane. And people should
respect one another more and more. And especially with the political situation today, I it's just getting very very toxic and it it it's not healthy. And as far as us with being a governing body and Brian and I talked about this when
Brian Cahill and I served on the board of ed, we at no point asked what our ideology was. We served and we served the people in Hter Township. We have to go through a political process to serve on this level. But I believe we're approachable to everybody. And I think
any one of us will do anything for anyone. And even when it comes to respecting people and mental health and individuality and struggles people are having, I can tell you I don't think any municipality is working as hard with the mental health association and all the people we can to help and make people as
strong as they could be and accept who they are. So, I'm very proud of the way we've been working on this resolution for the last five or 6 years and out of our township is very accepting and uh hopefully we can continue to be a stronger and stronger stronger model on
how people should behave and respect one another. That's my two cents and I think it was important to say it. Thank you. Okay. We have one final proclamation. We are not going to read into the record. I'll just read the title. Well, it's a proclamation of the township committee of township of Hanover designating the
month of July as park and recreation month within Hanover Township. All in favor of that proclamation? None. Okay. Mike, you don't have a comment on this one? It speaks for itself. There you go. Ladies and gentlemen, Deputy Mayor, Parks and Recreations.
No worries. Moving on. We have a communications next letter of recom of retirement from public works supervisor Brian Pillian effective of July 2025. We just want to thank Brian for all the years of service that he gave to Handover Township. May I have a motion
to approve his retirement? With regrets, yes. May I have a second? Second. All in favor? Resignation accepted. Next is the approval of the township committee meeting minutes of April 24th and May 8th. May I please have a motion to approve the minutes? So move second. All
in favor? I. Minutes are so approved. The next order of business is the public hearing and adoption of ordinance numbers 16 2025, 17205, and 18 2025. I would like to conduct a public hearing for each ordinance
separately, please. The first ordinance 16 2025. Proof of publication that the pending bond ordinance and summary appeared in the May 15th issue of the handover eagle. At this time, may I have a motion to convene the public hearing on
ordinance number 16-2025? All in favor? I. Is there anyone in chambers wishing to be heard concerning ordinance number 16-2025? If so, please state your name and address for the record. Motion to close. May I have a second?
Second. All in favor? I. Now an adoption for ordinance 16-2025. May I please have a motion to adopt ordinance number 16-2025. So move second. On roll call. Committeeman Cahill. I. Committeeman
Faramosa. Hi. Committ Francioli. Hi. Committee Malfa. Yes. Mayor Gallagher. Hi. So adopted. Next is ordinance 17-2025. Proof of publication that ordinance 7717 2025 and its notice of introduction
appeared in the May 14th issue of the daily record. At this time, may I have a motion to convene the public hearing on ordinance number 17-2025? Motion second. All in favor? I. Is there anyone in chambers wishing to be heard
concerning ordinance 172025? If so, please state your name and address for the record. Seeing none. Second. All in favor. Now an adoption. May I please have a motion to adopt ordinance 17-2025? Make a motion. Second. On roll call.
Committeeman Cahill. I. Committeeman Faramosa. I. Committeeman Francioli. I. Committeeman Mahalo. Yes. Mayor Gallagher. Hi. So adopted. Ordinance number 18-2025. Proof of publication that ordinance 18
2025 and its notice of introduction appeared in the May 14th issue of the daily record. Like to state for the record that ordinance 18 2025 is a land use ordinance and this ordinance was sent to the Morris County Planning and Preservation Office as required by the municipal land use law. In addition to
the law also requires the town to submit the ordinance to the five continu contiguous municipalities. Ordinance 18, 2022 was also referred to the planning board for their recommendation. In a letter dated May 27th, 2025 from planning board chair Peter Denegris, it
stated that the planning board has determined that ordinance 18205 is not substantially consistent with the master plan. Since the land use element of the master plan recommended the current maximum building height of 60 feet and four stories. Despite this
inconsistency, the planning board recommends that the township committee adopts ordinance 182025 and it will amend the master plan to eliminate the inconsistency within the ordinance of if so adopted. So at this time, may I please have a motion to convene the
public hearing on ordinance number 18-2025. So move second. All in favor? I Is there anyone in chambers wishing to be heard concerning ordinance 18205? If so, please state your name and address for the record.
Hearing none, seeing none, may I have a motion to close the public hearing? So moved. May I have a second? Second. All in favor? I now an adoption. May I please have a motion to adopt ordinance 18-2025? So moved. Second. On roll call,
Committeeman Cahill. Yes. Committeeman Faramosa. Hi. Committeeman Francioli. Hi. Committeeman Malco. Yes. Mayor Gallagher. Hi. So adopted. I'd also like to read into the record the title of resolution number 144-2025
which outlines the reasons for the adopting of ordinance 18-2025. So we'll do a resolution number 144-2025. It's a resolution of the township committee of the township of handover, county of Morris, state of New Jersey,
overriding the master plan consistently determination with respect to ordinance 18-2025. May please, please have a motion to pass ordinance number 144-2025. So move. May I have a second? Second. On
roll call. Committ Cahill. Yes. Committ Francioli. I. Committee McGaller. I mean, I'm so sorry. Committeeman Mahalo. Yes. Committeeman Fraamosa. Hi. And Mayor Gallagher. I. So approved.
[Music] Next, I have two ordinances this evening for introduction. I'd like to read each one into the record. Ordinance number 19-2025. an ordinance of the township committee of the township of handover in the county of Mars, state of New Jersey,
authorizing the implementation of phase six of a multi-phase, multi-year project for the improvement and modernization of the township's communication and technology infrastructure with the extension of the fiber optic network and installation of automatic license plate
readers and additional security cameras where needed at critical infrastructures located in the township. and further appropriating the sum of $80,000 from the township's 2025 capital improvement fund and all prior years for financing
the phase 6 improvements. Next would be ordinance number 20-2025 an ordinance of the township of handover Mars County, New Jersey amending section 166-131 tree preservation removal and replanting
in chapter 166 of the township code entitled land use and development in order to reduce the maximum tree replacement obligation for affordable housing developments. I'd like to state for the record that these ordinances and their respective notices of introduction
will be published in full in the daily record in accordance with law. The public hearing will be scheduled for July 10th, 2025 at 8:00 p.m. If any member of the public would like to be heard regarding those ordinances, they will be given the opportunity to do so that evening. Now, may I please have a
motion to adopt or I'm sorry, introduce ordinances 19 and 20. May I have a second? Second. All in favor? I. Roll call. Committeeman Cahill. Hi. Committeeman Phamosa. Hi. Committeeman Francioli. Hi. Committeeman
Malco. Yes. Mayor Gallagher. Hi. So introduced. Next order of business is the approval of resolutions as a consent agenda. Resolutions numbers 118 through ordinance number 143. Does any
member of the governing body have any questions regarding any of these mentioned resolutions? Mayor, at at some point I'd like to just make a comment regarding resolution 138-2025, please. Okay. All right. Thank you. That
this is a resolution regarding the redevelopment agreement for the for 85 Whippidity Road and 100 Bear Boulevard. It's been commonly known as the bear extension and that's um as a result of an ordinance adopted by the governing
body earlier this year uh to establish a certain redevelopment plan for that property uh which is almost 80 acres in size. This resolution uh comes with an agreement, a redevelopment agreement, and it's important because it memorializes the understanding uh with
the township and what is to be perceived at the development in addition to the the ordinance that was adopted for redevelopment that was already approved with some of the ancillary terms. And I think it's important to just memorialize that this governing body um was
steadfast about a few items. one that there would be no waiver of the tree ordinance and I think that that's something that was made clear. Uh notwithstanding that that was requested by the developer uh the governing body believes that that's something that is
applicable to uh all developers within the township going forward and uh that that's number one. Second, there was also a request to eliminate the right of condemnation that the governing body reserves based on the redevelopment designation. And to that end, uh the
governing body also was of the opinion that this is the project that's to be approved. if it's something different down the road or there's a change because you see throughout the state sometimes you start with one project and then the next thing you get more say
density or development and things like that the governing body was steadfast in wanting to reserve its right of condemnation imminent domain if in fact the project that's been proposed does not get developed and something else were to come along and I think that's
something else that's very important that's in this agreement and And finally, in in part of the whole discussion for the redevelopment, $250,000 was put aside for the township, which is permitted under a redevelopment agreement for the sole purpose of any
road roadway improvements, which could even be studies for the uh the actual site and and it could even be offsite type of improvements at the discretion of the governing body. And I just want to make clear that one of the things
that was important to the governing body is that that $250,000 does not go against if the land use board has improvements that have to be made. If the county, cuz this is on a county road, request certain roadway improvements. This was for the governing
body based on some of the needs that it may perceive are necessary with respect to the property. And that too was very important to be in this agreement. Not any derivative of that such as well maybe that'll be used toward the planning board approval or the county
approval. That's solely within the discretion of the governing body. And I just for the record I think it's important the public's aware of how steadfast the governing how important it's been to the governing body to to make sure that this this project is developed the way it was envisioned and
presented. And second, uh, that it wasn't any changes by the governing body. That was the understanding all along. Not that the tree removal ordinance would be waved, condemnation would be withdrawn, and certainly not that the $250,000 would be used for
anything else. And I I just wanted to just make that, you know, emphasize that to the public and of course just reiterate that that was the position of discovering body maker. Fred, thank you very much. And I'll make one comment on what Fred just responded to. He's also
we made it abundantly clear that when we spend a lot of time on a deal, at no point do you come back and start discussing with us what you need to change for your benefit. At that point, the whole deal gets reopened. And then
we have to talk about what we want to do for our benefit. the days are over for people to come back to us and tell us why A, B, and C won't work. And another comment about the condemnation. There's two different ways of looking at condemnation. One that benefits
everybody and one that can be a little bit harsh and disrespectful to a homeowner. Fred explained to us clearly this is at the benefit of the Hannover Township residents, and we are Hannover Township residents. If they try to pivot and say, "We can't do this. We're going
to do this." Boom. we can shut the whole thing down. We have that authority and that was Fred's guidance, Fred's recommendation, and we grabbed it and held tight on it. We are going to be in control of this project and it's not going to turn into the blob, that famous
movie from the late60s. This is going to be what was proposed or it's not going to happen at all. And Fred, thank you for your guidance and your wisdom on helping us with this entire process. Thank you, mayor. And and may I just ask with respect to the resolution, it also be amended to reflect that if because
there was a lot of still technical changes as we we we came to this meeting tonight. And I'd like it to just have the caveat that uh Mr. Giorgio uh will sign the agreement once he also does a final review in the event there's any
technical changes that have to be made to make sure what we just talked about is in the agreement. So it would just be subject to Mr. George's any changes he may authorize after you approve this tonight if you do. Beautiful. Thank you very much. Okay, Kristen. Any other
comments or questions regarding the resolutions? Can I make a quick comment about u resolution 119? That is the promotion of top quirk. Uh uh I although I'm very sorry to see Denise Brennan move on. Uh we wish her
the best in her retirement. Uh but we're very anxious looking forward to working with tough work. he is more than capable and following our succession plan we are moving him from the assistant superintendent up to superintendent position and again it's um I've worked with him very closely these past few
years and I'm looking forward to him being in the superintendent position uh moving forward so congratulations to both of them to Denise and to thank you Mike okay may I have a motion to approve the resolutions as a consent agenda so moved
I have a second all in favor All right. So, approved. And lastly, we have to pay our bills in the amount of $7,28,79940. Would somebody like to pay the bills? Bills. May I have a second? Second. All in favor to pay the bills. I So approved the mayor and the members of the
committee. That clears my portion of the agenda and I thank you very much. Christy, you did an incredible job. Thank you. And I think only one other meeting, Joe, you spoke that many words in that short amount of time. I understand drink water.
So, uh I would like to uh have a motion open to the public. Second. All in favor? I. If anyone from the public would like to address the governing body, please step up to the podium, state your name and address, and you have four minutes.
Good evening everyone. Terry Bear from the Whippony section of Hanover. Um, I have a question about the website and who decides what goes on our website. Is there somebody who's in charge of
that? Well, ultimately I am, Terry. Uh each department head also has the ability to post items that are supposed to be for
the benefit of the public. So, but I oversee all the postings. So, if there's one posting in particular you're concerned about, please let me know. Okay. It's the 2025 housing element and fair share plan. Okay. Um since that the
planning board is having a big meeting on Tuesday and you know the size of the document is half the size of war and peace. Um and you know the inconvenience of people having to schedule with Kimberly you know while she stand there
and watches you go through the 654 pages. Um which I'm sure she's not going to appreciate. Um I don't understand why it wasn't posted on the website. Terry, I'm going to jump in real quick. I talked to Fred about this earlier today,
and I asked Fred if there was legally a reason why we can't or shouldn't. And I also asked Fred, although it's very, very involved in many, many pages, should we make it a little easier for the public to review it rather than make
an appointment cuz appointments, especially in today's day and age, are very, very hard to make and keep. So Fred, can you just answer is there a legal reason why we c we can't or should we? What do you think? Yeah. Well, first we have to be very mindful and respectful of the fact that this process
goes through the land use board. So whatever they're doing is with their appropriate guided legal guidance. Uh but that's still a a township document, too. So if the governing body wants to do something else with the document, um that that's fine. that there's not a
legal there's nothing that would stop you legally, but I just want to make sure that's to to say that there's reasons and you know a determination made from a standpoint of the land use board because that's the first stop for this new law. So, I don't want to speak
for that. But on this side of it, on the township side to your question, yes, we the governing body can um you know, when it whenever it deems appropriate, make this document available in different ways as well.
The reason is because it's up for public hearing. So, how can the public participate in government without the transparency of the actual document to to speak to? Because obviously the attorney at the at this public hearing
is going to have a hissy fit when you know people say well I don't know what page it was on. I don't know what it is. You know like you don't even know what the document's about if you don't can't well you know one thing that's so hard in all this Terry is the deadlines that
the state has mandated. So, and and the rules, they're so specific, like for an example, once you adopt the plan, you have 48 hours to actually file it with the court, things like that. So, here, I believe the rule is within 10 days prior
to the hearing, it has to be available for inspection. And, you know, you you just don't know from a land use standpoint if anything you do different and somebody's going to try to say, "Got you." I don't think it's done for a standpoint of anything, but there's a
very very specific and demanding timeline because this 600 and so pages, you know, we have is is something that's just been put together with a lot of work. It's for the next 10 years. And even though down in Trenton the
municipal attorney said, could we have more time when they did this legislation? The answer was no. You got to get it done. And there's been requests for extensions. No. So, it was really put together on short order and the law says you have to have it available within 10 days. And I don't want to speak for the land use board,
but I want to defend the process a little bit to say that um you just everybody's trying to do exactly what they have to do right now. And I don't believe there's any other intent to um to miscommunicate this.
It's the first time through. Um, just as much as it's great for the public and the public should see this and be available, there's also, not that it wouldn't be available, but you have to remember there's also some people who just want to see it and
they've got other ideas about, you know, suits and things like that, which are all going to have it all be made public. It is. Uh so I just want to say to you that um it's the first time through but to the mayor's question the governing body can certainly um address this and
it's important to note that well the land use board by law first makes a decision about adopting the plan. It does come back to the governing body for a resolution and consideration as well. And I believe there's going to be a
meeting to that effect on the 24th 26th 26th of June. for the for the governing body to to get it back and and ratified because it hasn't it hasn't gone through this governing body yet. It's been discussed in executive session from a
strategy standpoint where you don't want developers to hear that strategy. You wish the public could hear everything. But um so that's just to just acclimate you. It's a little different than what we've ever seen before because of the time constraints. I I guess I come back
from the standpoint is that that it's a public hearing and that in order for the public to be involved they and educated about it, they have to have access. And in the this day and age, this isn't 1965 anymore, you know, and we're treating this like it's 1965. The same the way
this is being treated is like the same rules that applied back in 1965. And it's it's really shameful, you know, like because the public should have the information whether they whether they
read it or not. Right. That's I'm about access to the information and primary documents rather than hearsay is the best way. John's a pretty creative guy and John's the director of planning. John, what mine and Fred's recommendations and conversations and
you being the director of planning, what do you think the best way to do between what would be the best way between now and when we discuss it in planning would be to get the information to the people? You think the website would be a good idea? You think making copies available to the public? I I I I I think uh
I think what we've started to do is to post things on the website so that at the hearing itself a member of the public who has access to the web can reference all these documents that being covered that exists. So that that that
does exist. The question that we're talking about tonight is do we post this in advance? And directionally it sounds like a good idea, but ultimately I would like to get the opinion of the attorney for the planning board to find out to
make sure that there there isn't an issue that we're not aware of tonight before we make that conclusion. So why don't we check with with Mr. Sullivan to uh to uh on that issue and to see if we
can post it and in in in addition to that maybe have a plan B like maybe have four to five copies that people could come in and peruse rather than make an appointment and that way we did everything we could that's to make sure that's a good suggest everybody can take
a look this way we did everything we could that's a good suggestion make them available it's an important very very important document and providing public access to that document I think is a is a very good suggestion. Can you champion that? Sure. Thank you. It doesn't address the issue that people would have
to take the day off from work in order to to do that. And like I said, it's 50 years ago. But but Terry, I I think it might because I think what the mayor and Mr. Farosker are saying is that if as long as we get we don't want to do something to interfere with the planning
board. You can never do that. But if we get the okay from Mike Sullivan, what I think the mayor saying is then we'll put it on the website. If there's a legal reason why we can't, and I just want to say again, there's very specific parts in
the law right now that say you have to put this on the website. For some reason, this is not one of them. And I just I don't want to speak for them, but what I surmise is, you know, the minute we don't follow something, even though it wouldn't appear to make sense, it's
just the reality. The the law doesn't always make sense. You know, plenty of world rules and stuff have not kept up with the times and they stay they stay rather cloistered. This is just about a very unique document. And I think the bottom line is if if Mr. Sullivan says
you're not in any way interfering with the planning board process by putting it on the website. It sounds like that's what the governing body will do. And and just also no one here we it's never been the intent throughout this whole process which is very sensitive to ever say well
let's just hide the 600 pages in any way or anything like that. Nobody has that's never been the position of the governing body or my conversations with Mr. Sullivan. So, you know, as a matter of fact, I think overall based on what the township has gone through, if I might
just add, is this report based on all the demands and the obligation is a very extensive report, not including new projects, which is a a tremendous accomplishment at this stage with all the rules and regulations. So, um, but
anyway, thank you. Okay. And I just want to say one more thing, Terry, about what Fred said. I think the public would be very impressed with their governing body if they were privy to our conversations about some of these rules about some of these mandates and where we are and where they want us to be. And uh Fred,
I'm glad you pointed that out because we spend a lot of time on this. So John, if you could check that out, get to Fred, Mike Sullivan tomorrow, that'd be great. And Terry, we'll do everything we could to be as provide as much of a service of this this information as we can and we'll know tomorrow. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you, mayor. There there are, you know, factually a number of property owners who made a request to be part of the plan and there, you know, that the governing body has come up with a way where uh it meets its obligation without
those additional projects, which is like you said, that's that's quite an accomplishment. Dean Ainson, Senior Rolls. Um, I know Terry had brought up, um, it's hard for people to take time off of work cuz I know the municipal building like
your hours are very short compared to people's working hours. Um, so I don't know if it's possible at all. Um, I know the library has a part where you can go read the newspapers and stuff, but what
if, um, we are able to have the some of our documents there cuz they have longer hours, more access for the public. Um, I don't know if it's possible, but that's a great idea. And we'll know tomorrow
what flexibility we do have after John speaks to Mike Sullivan. That's a in my opinion that's a very good idea, but we really have to find out from John after he talks to Mike and then Fred Samar. It's a very good idea. Okay. In principle I we might be told tomorrow we're off base. You know what I mean?
Well, I don't know. That's see if it's possible. We John will champion that tomorrow. Um and also on ordinance uh the introduced ordinance 2025 with the reduction of trees. Um, why are we um
changing their obligation on the um tree replacement end? Jerry, you want to take that one? Maybe it's more legal because the affordable housing is allowed
here. Mike's not on. Um when you have a project that includes affordable housing component uh there is um some legal legal concerns concerns that you can offset some of that cost um
and this is one way to uh reduce some of the costs associated with those developments. And I I think also it's fair to say some communities have been dealing with this. This stems off of the D ordinance and some of the fees that
towns have put in these ordinances have some results that legally won't stand when you when you deal with certain numbers. And I'm just saying generally when it's there's just been some cases that say you have to have some type you have to have a
reasonable relationship to the cost that you're collecting and to to or caps on the amount that you can collect for tree removal before it becomes so to speak excessive. So, we've reviewed that with
Bla1 Blanchow and we've from legal and and had a discussion with the governing body that it it's not going away. It just had to be refined basically with some limits so that there's a rational relationship because government just can't charge
what it what it wants. And so, we had to go back and take a look at it to make sure that it's in line with the case law. Okay. And on the Mountain Ab group home, were you able to come up with a location
for the home on the property? I'll give you a quick answer and then I'm going to ask Ron Franc to take the floor on this one. Ron and I had a meeting with the group after I said that we didn't like any of the renderings. We had a very very high level discussion
on exactly what we would accept, what would have what we would have to see to fit into that neighborhood based on the commitments we made to our residents and what we put forth in the legal document. And then Ron, if you can as carefully as possible maybe update on
where we are with getting back to what we originally thought it could be. Yeah. Uh we had such a meeting with ARC and their engineering firm and their staff and we uh shared with them our concerns for several things which they're
addressing right now. Number one, the size of the unit, the footprint of the building itself has to be reduced. Number two, the size of the driveway uh not the driveway but the parking area on the site has to be reduced. Uh number
three, the uh location of the site moves further east of the trails and further east of the woods for the schools for uh for that. Uh there were some other items uh concerning lighting for the trails that we would like to provide for
additional security. Uh other items that uh would bring them into conformity for a planning board review, uh front yards, etc. that would line themselves up with the additional houses on the street being more conforming to other uh
properties on the street. Uh so we're expecting uh a new draft from them uh for our review. Once we have it in our hands, the township committee will take a look at it. Uh if it meets with our expectation, then uh the next move is on their part and that would be a planning
board review. Okay. And was was it ever um looked at for the driveway to come off of Spruce or was it always off of Mal? We have in our agreement that Spruce is
not going to be an access whatsoever for for very specific reasons, but yeah, it there was no opportunity or option for them to come off Spruce. As a matter of fact, uh, as the mayor might recall too, our recommendation is that barriers will be put up at the end
of schools as well so that it never to be open. Let's put it that way. And a beautiful wood one, not a big metal state issue guard rail. No, no blinking lights. But the last part that's very important for you and in this neighborhood is in our meeting we did
make it very clear if we don't get to a very good place with this structure maybe it just won't work here and that kind of woke them up a little bit and they were very very imunanable to hearing our big concerns and I think we're much much closer than we were the
last meeting but still we haven't seen anything held anything and said this is going to work and we are going to be as tough as we said we would about trees. They are going to remove trees. We did put in a stipulation for the size of tree and the species of tree that would
have to be replaced. But uh we certainly are going to do everything we could to not allow them to cut down too many which one of the proposals was too many and that's not what we discussed and that's not what we discussed with you. So right now again it's all up in the air. it's up to them to come back to us
and have us say, "Wow, that looks great." Or, "This is acceptable if we do A, B, and C." So, it's still up in the air right now. Okay. And my last question is, um, is there was there just a traffic study done on Mountain?
Because I saw the things in the street. Brian, do you know anything about that? I don't I don't know if they were the one on Mountain or not. Okay. Thank you. That's it. Thank you very much.
Anyone else? Hearing none, seeing none. Motion to close. So moved. All in favor? I. Okay. I think now we uh other business. John, would you like to make a few comments?
Sure. Um we'll begin with some fun stuff with environmental and the green team. The uh environmental green team is doing a special project with the Boy Scouts. We have an Eagle Scout who is installing a gander dispander at B Meadow Pond. And
what the Gander dispander will do, it will it will emit a laser on the top of the water to discourage geese nesting. And in addition, the scouts will be building batous to help combat West Nile
West Nile mosquitoes. So, a very, very good addition to the beautiful Bmetal Pond. Edac is going to have to postpone its planned broker networking event at All Seasons Golf because if anybody is very familiar what's going on at Ced
Hills Mall, there's a tremendous amount of construction. So, we're going to postpone that till September at All Seasons Golf. Should be a great event. Engineering just conducted its media review with the township committee on roads. The road plan is going on as
planned. Um, in addition, uh, the good news is the top of Forsills Road has been added to the list and we appreciate support of the township committee on that. And lastly, the old downtown area of Whitney, Mount Pleasant Avenue, will
have parking available on it. Uh, so that'll be starting uh, next week, week of 616, and all the striping, the lanes will be done by the week of 623. So, a nice addition to what we refer to as the old downtown
part of our community. Thanks, sir. Ron, very brief, mayor. Just uh just one comment. We had a very lovely ceremony uh yesterday evening at our library for one of our departing members. Uh been the vice president of the Webon Library
for quite some time. That's Shantel. Shantel Militiano will be leaving us. uh and uh the township committee presented Michelle uh Chantel with a beautiful plaque that uh the administrator prepared and uh once again we wish her
all the best uh as she leaves the library and because she's leaving the area and again we we wish her all the best going forward. Thank you. Thanks. Brian, uh yeah, a couple of things. First of all, lots of congratulations. First, Ron
and Ace. Congratulations on your uh primary win. It was very amazing, but congratulations. Thank you very much. Um, also I did also want to congratulate TQ and Denise as well. Uh, you're I couldn't agree more. I've known TQ for a very long time and uh, as far as
succession is concerned, you certainly deserve the role. Um, I spoke with Denise yesterday and she expressed very very mixed emotions. U, I did insist that she come by and visit us often. She said that the senior citizens club had invited her to join that. So hopefully she'll do that as well. But
congratulations to both. Um also I'd like to congratulate our newest police officers to Hammer Township. Um Bernard Dada and Thomas Adamiac. Uh they graduated last week, last Monday I believe, from the police academy and uh
began their training here in Hanover Township uh only I think just a few days uh later. So uh congratulations to them. I look forward to having them on the force and and uh continue to grow and evolve Pan Township PD. Thanks, Brian. Mike, try to keep it
brief. Do whatever you want. My creation. Okay, get it going quick. So, uh B Meadow Poolool is now open. It's open uh fulltime on the weekends. It'll open uh fulltime full-time at the end of the month on uh June 21st. Unfortunately,
the splash pad, we were running into some issues, started dragging. Um for safety, for comfort of the residents, we said, you know what, let's put a pause on the project and we're going to restart that on September 2nd once the pool closes. Uh so we we did have to uh
again they were just there was a lot of problems a lot of issues kept popping up and again for for safety um safety and again comfort we didn't want construction going on while people were sitting at the pool. Uh we did offer anyone that has uh paid their uh fees.
We offered to refund them for this year if they so inclined. Um most people stuck it out. Uh actually I think we only had two two people that requested their money back. Uh, so I was very pleased with that and they're still excited. We did make other arrangements since we don't have a baby pool anymore
uh to use the twoft area for for younger children. Uh, so we made some accommodations. Eddie and Denise also u came with some really creative ideas. Um, but yeah, we're excited for that, you know, to to uh start back up again in the fall and hopefully u become a
nice project. uh the registration is still far beyond where it's been in years past. So, we're we're we're anxious that way. Uh all of our camps are starting up pretty soon. Summer camp, traveling, teens, uh they're almost all sold out. Uh we have
a very popular program. There's even a waiting list for most of them. Um mark your calendars. We do have five concerts coming up uh for our patriotic celebration. July 2nd, that's our fireworks here at the municipal campus. Uh that'll be our first concert followed
by um uh we'll have some face painting, balloon sculptures, and then fireworks at dusk. So again, Murphy is uh that's July 2nd, rain day to the 3rd. Uh we also have our summer concert series starts right after that. That is
the Mondays in July. So July 7th, 14th, 21st, 28th. Uh all of those Mondays over at the uh black uh at Brickyard on the Turf Field. We're going to have those concerts there. Just to give you an idea, the 7th is the nerds. Uh the 14th
is a uh Suit Mai. It's a yacht rock band. That's a new one for us. Uh on the 21st, July 21st is Austin City Nights. That's country music. And then uh the Coots. Uh the old Coots who uh have played for us in the past. That's a popular one, too.
That's on July 28th. Um and just one more mark your calendars. It's strange to start talking about it already, but Hann Township Day. Mark your calendar. September 6th. Saturday, September 6. Rain Day the 7th. So that's it in a nutshell. That's it. Yep. Does Mike have
more time? No. Get going. Thank you for going. I I just want to conclude by acknowledging and thanking Denise Brennan. You know, nine times out of 10 when somebody's really devoted to something,
you'll never put the term minimum amount required. And uh Denise Brennan, this is her life, her family. She's a beautiful human being that has done incredible work. And what I'll say about Tom Quirk is Tom Quirk is the same as OEM director
and assistant to Denise Brennan until tonight. I can't tell you how many times we've been out at 2, three o'clock in the morning with flooding issues and you call Tom Quirk and he answers the phone on one ring. He's the same way with the wreck. He really knows what he's doing.
He came up under Denise. And I want to tell you one more thing about succession in Hannover Township. Just prior to Brian Cahill's the beginning of Brian Cahill's last term, we discussed the future of Hannover Township. We're here now. We're not going to be here forever. We worry about succession across the
board. We created a a detail of succession that Brian champions and this goes right in to our detail of succession. Somebody that came up in Hannover, lives in Hannover, understands Hannover, work with the rec department. This is just a beautiful, beautiful fit
and we're excited about embracing Tom. As sorry as we are to see Denise go, Denise is just a wonderful, wonderful human being. So on that note, guys, that's it for me. one one comment and I want to piggy back on on uh what Michael was talking about with the uh coming up
with the firework celebration etc that were coming. Um this is personal observation uh for everyone uh been out there as we all have uh beautiful beautiful shoot lots of lights and I've seen children
uh watching close by u young ages I'm saying 3 4 5 6 years old no ear protection no ear protection I strongly strongly suggest that parents who come out and I've seen some parents who do have ear protection for the children
that they bring ear protection for the kids. Uh it frightens them without it with it ear protection they enjoy it. So that's my my note on that. It's a good point. Very good point. Anyone else? We
be remiss as a committee talked about patriotic celebrations without acknowledging the deputy mayor's work Mike Malco for our Memorial Day parade. Memorial Day. Well done. Thank you. Thank you.
It's the it's it's it's the team and I don't want this turn to a whole back patent thing, but you guys do a terrific job. We got a great team that that works on it now and uh I think it was probably one of our best ever. The weather was perfect. Uh we had a good lineup and uh everything went very smoothly. Um again,
thank you all. Brian arranges the parade. Uh uh Ron and John work on the ceremonies on that. Ace just stands there and looks pretty nice getting the cars lined up. So we have a lot of people that work. Uh Tom Cork
being one of them also on the committee. Um James left James Hark was who was here. He was also on the committee. Pete Burken Camp uh and and one sad note u Mary Neck was also on our committee. Unfortunately passed away. Uh so that
was uh it was a spot that we we missed her. Uh but again it was a terrific crew and and thank you John for for reminding us that uh it was a terrific celebration uh of our veterans and those that have uh that have passed.
Before I ask to join, I want to say that we cannot forget Hatter Township's big brother retired deputy chief Steve Bolard a grand marshal. Boy, he had the day of his life and he deserves it and that was a
beautiful beautiful choice and Steve's a great great guy and a great friend. So that being said, motion move second. All in favor? I thank you. Good. [Music]