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e e e she's a we good okay it's March 19th at 7:04 p.m. call tonight's council meeting to order roll
call Bennett here leosa here mey here Sasso here skara here Wy here Matthews here please rise and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge algi to the flag of the United States of America and the
Republic for it stands one nation godis liy and justice for all adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by the annual schedule of regular meetings here for adopted and posted on the public bulletin board at the municipal building emailed to The Herald News the record The Gazette and
all persons who requested the mailing of such since November 19 2024 approval of the minutes can have approval of the minutes for the regular meeting of March 5th 2025 so Move Motion by with teie second by somebody over
here mey yes roll yeah col roll yes skara yes Sasso yes mey yes leosa yes Bennett yes Matthews yes motion carries public comment I'll now open the meeting to the public for agenda items anyone desires to be heard
please raise your hand to be recognized come forward to the microphone state your name for the record seeing no one I entertain a motion to close the public portion of the meeting so move s second motion by ska second I Sayo all in favor I I
motion carries adoption of ordinances we have none this evening old business Joe we'll start your way um any update on the parking from the businesses at 204 wag Road in the pool parking lot I have fresh pictures for tonight
okay uh I know the inspectors have been down there I know the police have been down there um I want to call him to go down there now uh I have to double check with him uh tomorrow Joe I I don't know I don't have an update only the update that I
sent you in an email last week OK do and the no parking signs I had requested that we get rid of the no parking signs that are all faded and say temporary I actually even brought you from nutly their parking signs nowh does it say
temporary it's nice and bright and maybe you want to consider something like that well can you get us more no parking in nutly what do you wanted to say that for just cross out in that L we'll work on it that's it for old how'd you make out with the trucks
that were parked in the auxiliary lot by wag three did oh no the mayor had NG address they went out there and issued summonses what was happening was NG is doing a big work on the Garden State Parkway
and um route 208 so they were coming they were dumping at um down but they need to unload their the shredder then they'd go over to the sonoko get breakfast hang out there and then come back hook back up
their trucks and drive away got it glad you got a resolve y all resolved thank you mayor you're welcome Michael not tonight Raina uh not tonight Bruce no sir Anna Marie just wondering if we're going to uh pull the trigger again on um
Mr Spa because it's piled up were you going to speak about that Michael no I wasn't um frankly again it's right back almost where it was yeah we issue him summonses every day we prosecute cases against him every day there's something
seriously wrong with what's happening there he is a disgrace to our community and we are trying to clean up a mess uh he keeps battling Us in court for his right to store garbage on his front lawn and we keep saying that's not what we do
in this town uh he insists on taking hoarder ring to a new level and hoarding on his front lawn and it's a problem so I know we're still in the court system on the first yes mountain of citations but of course
he's building yet another Mountain on his front lawn and his driveway I'm sure at some point you'll have no choice but to pull the trigger do the dumpster and incur more we are not able to enter upon his property until a court authorized
to do it and so to review the matter right now is in the Prospect Park Municipal Court it's being prosecuted there due to a conflict here uh hasham massri is again working on our behalf
Prosecuting the case um judge ABD sound like he's doing anything no he it's not him it's not the court nothing happens fast and Mr spoila being who he is um just just obstructs
delays and the system doesn't work well when you have somebody like this that is Zemo and he has if I recall 204 or 14 citations that there were over 200 summonses issued to him Judge Abdul hadti will try every one of them and and
not for anything judge abdal Hadi again came down very hard on him um but of course he appealed all the way to the New Jersey Supreme Court denied all along but again it's it's awful what's happening there neighbors Michael when
is this considered hazardous to other residents in it's not in a situation where we can declare it unsafe in a sense of that it's a fire hazard or anything like that now his house is to a
point where if there is a fire our Emergency Services will not enter because they'll put their lives at risk because of the hoarding going on in the house uh the hoarding on the lawn just is unsightly but it's not to
the point where it's putable or you know garbage that's rotting my concern is that if some of that debris does get on fire and the chances are if anything else in in his property goes on fire is the neighboring homes our and so you
know and now now we have to deal with that so I'm think I think of it differently I think there is a hazard um and you based on the closeness and the complexity of the next door neighbors and the back neighbors you know it's
some seriously concern uh our fire officials aren't able to conclude that if the fire officials were able to conclude that we'd have a different circumstance we're operating under the international property maintenance code and we're not dealing with garbage which would actually be um something that
could be unsanitary situation it's rubbish and there's actually a difference between garbage you fourth grade kids can learn garbage and rubbish or different things rubbish by definition is uh not what we call putable meaning it will go bad um so
therefore you don't get uh the same board of health concerns you didn't make me feel any better no I know it's it's frustrating and it's very hard to deal with an individual who just uh just decides that he wants to make his neighbors suffer one of the things that
I I did when I I spoke to their prosecutor at length uh about two weeks ago and he is looking into moving the venue from the municipal court to Superior Court he said the Superior
Court judges have so much more power than the municipal uh judges and he's looking at that and he said that uh he's going to review it and uh possibly move it which which means it won't move any FAS fter I can't answer that it could move
faster I can it f I understand the cynicism from everybody up here um unfortunately though everybody is pushing as hard as they can it's not from lack of effort on anyone's part it is an individual you know you're dealing
with somebody who uh frankly our right to enter on his property is a constitutional issue like it or not and so uh has afforded protections at law which he should and so it's not so easy as to just walk on the property and just
drag off everything you want it's just not that simple and apparently he knows how to play the legal system better than some of the best educated Minds we've got in that field he is not a stupid person he's an intelligent person and he
knows how to work through the system as well so um it's it's very frustrating and you can't make somebody a good person or neighbor but we're going to keep fighting to clean the property anything else anarie I think
that will be all sir thank you move this along for you thank you Dominic I'm okay how about new business nope I'm okay and Marie no new business thank you Bruce president no Rea no I'm good Mike nope Joe no okay so then we'll move to the
administrative agenda presented by mayor Lan thank you Mr President tonight the burrow is pleased to welcome our fourth grade students who won the honors of 2025 pay County poster Cal calendar con
contest we have the winning Artist as Marcus Rivera Vega and the honorable mention uh winners are Sophie dagistan Madison Rivers Kiara Reno and
and Samuel uh Sarah Samuel if you'd all come up here please and Frank could you join us down here yeah yeah Danielle could you please join us good job stay there now me cicat
you so who wants to be an artist when they grow [Applause] congratulations congratulations guys Danielle can you just want to say hello
to the [Laughter] crow don't try to run out don't even everyoneon ccil members uh thank you for recognizing theor artist for my off
annual County poster calendar contest some of you may be familiar with the contest contests like this are done by county clerks throughout New Jersey's 20 other counties the purpose of the contest is to invite fourth graders in the county to design and submit a poster
that reflects something special to them about pay County whether it's our diversity our Rich history or our Beauty so thank you again for recognizing the students we had a record-breaking number of submissions this year 900 76
submission from 12 towns in P County over 30 schools I'm happy to say that right here in Hawthorne over 200 submissions from all of our Elementary Schools Jefferson Roosevelt um what's the third one Washington Washington
thank you St Anthony and Hawthorne Christian so it's really a joy for my office to be able to provide this opportunity for our students and again for the public the 12 winning entries are created into a poster which you have displayed out in the lobby that poster is uh presented throughout all of the
governmental buildings in P County prus Health Care Center displace dozens for the nurses the doctors and of course the residents and you know libraries name it it's there so it's really a joy for the students who participate and for the public throughout P County it's a great
program thank you Danielle it is thank you have a good night have a due to the scheduling conflicts at hathorne high school this year's dinner and a play that had been scheduled for tomorrow was cancelled we are in the planning stages of another event for the
hathorne seniors in the fall the ambulance Corps is sponsoring a blood drive on Thursday May 22nd at the ambulance Corps building on gel road to celebrate EMS week please mark your calendars today Sergeant Dalo of the
horor police department traffic Bureau who is in the state of who is a state of New Jersey certified weight Master traveled to the New Jersey Division of weight and measures in avanel New Jersey for the purpose of recertifying the department scales which are used to
weigh Vehicles now that these scales have been recertified we can start using them on the roadways they will be utilized to make our roadway safer by weighing heavyduty commercial trucks traveling the burrow also Al I want to thank our
traffic Bureau for working together with our DPW in addressing pothole issues in a very timely manner the traffic uh officers who are out there are making a list of the uh potholes turning it over to DPW and the holes are getting filled
much quicker bake County surrogate will be offering free last will in testat for horor senior residents on Friday April 11th and on May 3rd they are offering the same for pafic County Law Enforcement firefighters EMS members and
all First Responders for their SP and their spouses for please call Chris moleno at 973 881-4766 extension 1220 for information our police department has
also posted applications for leadership camp in August please see the website for our details if you haven't signed up for nixel please do so we are we are sending a lot of burrow information out on the
nixel whether it's news activities or programs please slow down and pay attention when driving now that the nice weather is upon us more and more people are out walking that concludes my report and I'll turn it over to our attorney
Michael Pasqual thank you mayor happy St Joseph's day everybody the that be you Joe the um by the way County Clerk Daniel imov Ireland is a Hawthorne resident for those who don't know and it's a great program so the congratulations to our fourth grade
students uh and also Mark the passing of Sandy Pine who uh Dave Pine's wife who passed away earlier this week which is sad news after a very long battle with cancer they was part of our burrow family so um some things to discuss the
first thing I want to discuss is um handed out to you tonight was a memo on our affordable housing situ ation as you know in know in the end of January we filed a complaint seeking to challenge the figures assigned to us by the
Department of Community Affairs as a prospective need where the number of affordable units we need to build over the next 10 years DCA assigned a number of 300 John Sabo analyzed the data determined it to be faulty and felt that
the right number even though we can't possibly build it but using their formulations was 183 uh fair share housing and the New Jersey Builders Association challenged it Builders simply filed something
saying DCA was right 300 units is the right number and anybody who doesn't agree with DCA is just trying to avoid its obligation they've gone to the Press they've gone everywhere as if the builders were the good guys in this thing when they're just profiteers let's
be clear about that and they have no interest in building affordable housing they have an interest in making money so let's not mistake them for who they profess to be uh no court has found their argument persuasive and frankly found that their argument is thus far
been rejected as exactly what they're not supposed to do which is just a blanket challenge you're wrong we're right now fair share housing did hired David Kinsey who was our special Master here in round two who is a uh an
extremely um well regged professional planner he picked apart plans and he determined our number should be 250 units he determined that by saying that John Sab did his math right but since
16.2% of all the affordable units would be lost on the assigned Statewide number if all these towns were right well we have to make them up somewhere so he created a new formula that also doesn't exist in any statute so while the courts
are less dismissive of his he's also not presenting a good argument um we had a conference last Tuesday before judge Brogan he is retired of pay County he's assigned to our case and the first step in the process is see if we can mediate
a result uh the special adjudicator Christine Kone was there try to bring the parties together and after the conference a representative Dr Kinsey's office and John Sabo spoke John was able to point out that again Dr Kinsey
included a portion of our Parklands but for whatever reason that Parkland wasn't on our open space inventory so we do need to amend our inventory to indicate that this large tract of like over six and a half acres is in fact part of our
open space so that'll be no problem Dr Kinsey agreed he's 100% agreeable that open space should not be developed for affordable housing there's like 0.06 acres of land that is conceivably
developable so John conceded our right number should be 189 we negotiated back in fourth bear share said well take the 250 what difference does it make you'll get a vacant land adjustment we said it's a
wrong number we're not going to agree to a wrong number I said I'll go to for 189 to 190 being generous and um we went back and forth and Christine kaan said what about
225 I said no I said 190 how about 215 210 the judge thinks 210 would be a good number I said I fine the judge can think that we don't ultimately what I bring to you tonight and again it's it's come late so I don't expect you all to vote
on it today is a sett sement at 200 units now the difference between 190 units and 200 uh in the grand scheme of things is really immaterial because we're obligated to make provision to build 25% of that in as part of our
unmet need so the difference we're really talking about is two and a half units of housing so it's not a Monumental difference I am going to recommend that settlement to you um I don't again expect that you necessarily would take vote tonight but I do need to
report to the judge whether or not we'll agree to 200 or we'll continue litigation and fight for our 189 I'm recommending the 200 just to move on to the next phase um so that's a long winded explanation of the memo I just
handed to you uh two other quick things r58 on your agenda tonight is something that uh Lori and I both are strongly recommending to you our 58 is a recommendation that we take
advertising out of the 19th century and move it to this Century for years newspapers have made tremendous money on publishing publishing legal notices it's ineffective I hate to say nobody reads newspapers but nobody reads newspapers
uh most of us get our information from so many other sources and if you really want to Target the most broad-based group when you're advertising use burough websites Municipal websites use State websites
there are web presences that would allow for a far greater reach than traditional newspapers so we are urging the legislature to take a different approach to advertising and bring the advertising
where people can find if we want to get people to bid on a road program would it be better to publish that in the star Ledger or to be on the municipal website where frankly paving companies could scour the websites or create a
Statewide database who's going out to bid it's so much more efficient effective and less costly so we strongly urge support of R50 you you just made a comment that I just have I'm curious about like The Star Ledger doesn't print a paper anymore so how could you be
forced to put it in the paper well again I used an example Star Ledger they're saying they're all going to fall away well they are going one after another and we've lost most of the South Jersey papers are gone and that's really what spurred this there's a handful here but
now the papers are saying well then you should be required to advertise in our online editions and we want to charge the same prices that we charged for the print versions which is insane but that
is exactly what it is it is a cash cow and it's time to go away and it was frankly for political influence because again back in the day everybody fought for the endorsement of the New York Post or the New York Times or whatever
newspaper would endorse you those days are gone and so anyway we very much urge r58 uh finally r62 is the much talked about long awaited um request that you agree to the
execution of the shared service agreement with the Board of Education we have discussed it adium um I'm not going to discuss it further I'm simply saying that the administration at this point does recommend the agreement to you the
school board adopted it last night uh we think it's time to put the issue to bed that concludes my report thank you Michael and now turn it over to Joe burn our engineer thank you mayor uh the galvanized water service line replacement phase three uh the
contractor completed work on warb burden Avenue net last week and they've started work on diamond Bridge Avenue as of Monday uh the Lafayette streetscape phase 3 project a preliminary start date of early April has been set with the contractor and will be finalized as
April approaches and the weather and temperature stabilize and are more uh the 2023 uh Road Improvement local Aid Fifth and Central um we received a uh a call from a
resident regarding a spalling of concrete um we investigated the overall area and we found multiple residences looked to be having the same problem um looking into it we believe that was either a bad batch of concrete when it was poured or the inclement weather that
happened over the 4 days after the POR happened it was raining um but regardless we've alerted the uh contractor of the spalling issue and they should be out in the next few weeks to take care of it uh this is under the um maintenance Bond so it shouldn't
be an issue but uh that will take place over the next few weeks um and the Hawthorne hockey rank improvements uh the plans and specifications um have been prepared and uh passed over to the uh buau part of the agreement is uh reviewed by the
Board of Education and approval but once that done will be ready to go to uh advertise bids so and uh that concludes my report mayor thank you and now turn it over to our administrator Eric
Mau thank you mayor caught me by surprise here I didn't know I was next looking at the emergency park I thought maybe I shouldn't be sitting here right um uh we have two new employees in the finance department roxan Hammond as our new water billing clerk Sue webe is our
new um payroll and accounts payable clerk both fill vacancies for existing positions they're not new positions and both are acclimating well to their duties um my primary focus over the past couple weeks has been work with the finance committee on the 2025 budget
we're on schedule to present the budget for introduction on April 2nd I'll defer to the finance chair um for any further report at this time um r55 uh on the agenda that resolution
authorizes a $1 million payment to the njib as appropriated into the temporary budget last meeting to pay off $1 million of our construction financing on the posos project reducing the amount of our 25e loan thereby reducing the
interest paid over that period we expect to have a similar amount of money coming in from our posos lawsuits within the next uh couple months to replenish what was used uh um to from the water fund for this payment uh initial negotiations
with Ridgewood last week on a longer term deal for their purchase of our water uh were promising we have another meeting scheduled um resolution r57 is is very important the federal government is requiring the pvsc to
undertake a $1.6 billion project the largest uh um I think um health related project in uh infrastructure project in New Jersey without any federal assistance as requested by this resolution this cost will will be pass
passed on to the member municipalities of the system which will add significantly to our cost we've already been hit with a 22% increase for 2025 that has nothing to do with this project and so our share of the cost of that project would greatly add to our burden
um you know in r57 asks federal assistance for this ferally mandated program um one more um item on the traffic Bureau um issue they're going to be working um in conjunction with DPW on
street sweeping um as as we get um hit warmer weather and and get back to regular street sweeping so residents need to be advised to follow the signs when there's no parking otherwise you can expect to get tickets we're going to get our streets uh cleaned curb to curb
this year and that concludes my report thank you and now turn it over to the council any questions anyone have any questions for the administration yes sir J uh Mary Mary Street water tank and masers that area is still not cleaned
out it has a lot of debris they got blown in there brought it up about a month and a half ago and then it snowed and then leaves and then there was a number of reasons why we couldn't get the debris out if we could get it out I'd appreciate
it uh temporary stop sign is still at Mohawk and North 17th um it's looks like it's on a a bucket of cement and the stop sign is on the corner still if we could get that a real stop sign and not a bucket
of Homer Home Depot is Homer it's a homer bucket that'd be good and then I think that's it that's all I have Mike no nothing that Rea um Mike getting
to your question about the open space area are you talking about McFarland that whole area in the back with the woods yeah we we um there's two sections that we're talking about and we believe I don't have the mapping but I believe
it's that area in the back by McFarland where there's a landing area that Frank is flat there's very steep getting to I think there's a paper Street if you go to our um environmental resource inventory Open Spaces we've identified
that in that inventory right and so we initially excluded as being steep slopes Dr Kinsey said well yeah there's steep slopes around and in it but that there is a flat area and he's right there is a flat area there if that's the lot I know the
guy who used to own it it was two 6 and he's very close to me right now me 2-6 Outlook Michael how many houses can you put there oh it's it's 6 Acres I mean so you you're talking about if you had a
density of 30 units to an acre that's like 16 or 17 but there's no access to it so it it's you'd have to you'd have to go in markf and make a left through the drive there's no way cuz when I own 96
Street I had 2-6 Outlook as well there's there's really Joe very steep drop the site so we included for the calculation purposes it raises the number to 189 um and it's correct it it's correctly included for determining the
number but again it's we're going to still make it part of our vacant L adjustment Michael how could they force us though we have no room to build them there's so what happens Dominic is we'll agree on a number of 200 say um we'll come up with a realistic
development potential and say realistically we can create zoning and see to the construction of maybe 30 units just arguably and we'll ask for a vacant land adjustment for the other 170
units which would then go into our bank of unmet need um the reason I want to keep this number relatively low is because unlike the second and third rounds unmet need just kind of was out there with this round you have to come
up with some form of a plan to show that over the next 10 years you're going to do something to try to address 25% of that number so if the resultant number is say 160 because it's the math is easier uh 25% of 160 is 40 we'd have to
show how we can create 40 affordable units over the next 10 years in addition to that which we currently create um that's not at least impossible so that's kind of where we're looking okay I have another question Joe
how many houses on uh Central Avenue are we talking about the sidewalk um I don't know offand but if you give me one two minutes I can pull up the list of addresses give you a quick count yeah I'm just curious thanks
Bruce yeah Michael uh mentioned that uh the reason Gothel Brook Park was brought up is because it wasn't in our open space inventory does it matter that we don't own it I was thinking this yeah it's actually when you do your open space you
you would include lands that are owned by others as well but it was only a small portion of it it's not the entire park it's a six acres of it so it's some it's it's not the 8 Acre Woods either
it's it's just a small portion of Parkland um six well 6.45 Aces not small but it's Parkland and again David Kinsey had no problem recognizing yeah absolutely it's part of a Historic Park um and just we'll have to clean up the
uh open space inventory to include it if it's really missing okay I'm good everybody asked my question I got my answers Dominic Dominic Joe how long will it take to put the roller we together once we get the plans you
think two weeks um no he's got to get um part of the agreement is that the work can only take place in July and August so it shouldn't take longer than those two months it should be done before August 31st week
to do it maybe yeah I would think so okay want it done um and to answer um Lea's earlier question it looks about eight properties are affected um most of which only had
one or two slabs um and none of the Ada uh crosswalks in that area were affected so thank you thank you is that it Dominic yes thank you thank you uh Eric I just want to point out uh the lead
left on wag and Lafayette is not working again I know the mayor had mik address it it was working again so I don't know it's a faulty card uh okay but instead of giving you the arrow it just turns green again that's all I had K have a motion
to record the administrative agenda so Move Motion by Bennett second by Mee all in favor I I motion carries introduction of ordinances this is a new one we have ordinance
2365 uh 2363 -25 to amend the tabled action uh an amended table action requires us to um have a motion from the table and the previous motion was made
by vice president Bennett and Sierra so if you would like to make those motions in second we can undo that motion that was put on the table but never acted upon right so you're going to make a motion to remove from the table it's on the table you're going to bring it back off the table and then once it's off the
table if the maker of the motion originally which was you Bruce and the second was you Michael withdraw your Motion in second then the original motion to approve that ordinance will die because we've now broken the ordinance into two component parts so
can I have a motion by pres vice president Bennett to remove it from the table okay Council M would you like to second that I second okay all in favor I I I uh that that motion is now or that ordinance is
retracted Bruce you withdraw your original uh motion okay yes good good thinking good thinking on your part so if the motion has been withdrawn by councilman Bennett and Michael second will be withdrawn too
yes I yes yes okay so therefore the motion uh the motion is no longer in existence and the ordinance is gone 24 years of doing this that's the first time I've ever done that that was a new one for I have to be honest learn something new every day I had to read my
Robert's Rules I hope I got it right I think I did I talked to a couple of attorneys I talked to Lori we talked it all I talk to Frank today and uh I think we got it all right but now you can say you had that experience yeah moving along we have ordinance
23642 an ordinance to further amend and supplement chapter 505 Article 2 sections 505 speed limits schedule 505-5455 D9 prohibited right turns on the red signal schedule 505-5455 and at said time and place all
persons interested will be given an opportunity to be heard concerning in the same and the clerk is hereby authorized and directed to publish the ordinance in the record once at least one week prior to set hearing with the notice of its introduction in time in place when aw said ordinance would be considered for final passage have a
motion so move s second motion by Ben at second by Sasso obviously this is half of a redo on the previous one any discussion um Frank yes how we can enforce this ordinance
well they're going to watch people turn right and they're going to use the speed limit to enfor that I think you talk about the next One D oh I'm talk oh this is the one on on gole road yeah yeah this just makes GFF road right now is 35
miles an hour 40 m an hour 35 it varies this will make it uniformly 35 okay um and the other thing is the no right turn if you're coming up West or up Ray Avenue oh up to Gothel you cannot make
the right on red because ultimately we'll have a lead left okay which would conflict with that traffic right thank you roll call Bennett yes leosa yes Mee yes saso yes skara yes wki yes Matthews
yes motion carries ordinance 23652 in ordinance the further amend and supplement chapter 505 Article 2 Section 5058 prohibit turns at intersections schedule 50557 so as to there to add there two
certain additional locations be it resolved this ordinance has now passed first reading and said ordinance be further considered for final passage of the govering body in the municipal building 445 Lafayette Avenue horor New Jersey on April 16th 2025 and it said time and place all
persons interested will be given an opportunity to be heard concerning the same and the clerk is hereby authorized and directed to publish the ordinance in the record once at least one week prior to the said hearing with the notice of its introduction in time and place when and where said ordinance would be considered for final passage have a
motion motion by wki second second by Bennett now obviously this is part two of the previous one um this restricts the left turn at certain times uh to North wung and
Pasadena uh it will be enforced by the police department but obviously if they're there not there right you you're able to so we're trying to resolve something if it doesn't work then we'll amend it can we do that Michael what
well you can always change introduce reintroduce um I mean there's a lot of concerns about impacts that this may have on other streets and so the ordinance committee at least did feel um if we're going to uh adopt this
ordinance there has to be some real monitoring of the traffic impacts elsewhere are are we just pushing a problem to everywhere else or not that was another thing the uh Third Street that was originally discussed Faber Faber we're going to put a counter there
to see if the traffic increases there due to this effect since we have a count of people that normally go down there through the first traffic study so if that doubles or triples whatever it does then we'll know hey people are catching on and they're going through the neighborhood like we do not want and
we'll address that at a further action do we know cars turn on North was roughly yes it's in the traffic study I don't I see I never saw it did you get and if I'm right the mayor told me that we do have a baseline count on Faber now
yes when we don't have the no left turn on uh on North Wun so using that as the base we can see how much of an incremental uh increase there is yes that was taken a year ago right and uh
by our traffic uh department and um it's we'll compare it to what we're going to do now and see what the uh outcome is and how many cars are using either more or less right and we had gotten additional information from
the Traffic Division U other than the traffic report that was prepared by Boswell uh Lieutenant Makowski I don't I saw that would you share that with me yeah we saw it um yeah it didn't say how many cars though it said no it told you
a whole bunch there pictures and it said number in number out and in time but yeah I'll share it with with you thank you I thought Lori might have sent it to us though or did you just send it to me I didn't get it from anybody so no you sent me you said is this the right one and I said no this isn't what I'm
looking for right I had asked uh Lieutenant mckowski after the meeting for because I got an Oprah request for it and then I asked you is this the right one and then somebody else said oh there's a Boswell one so I never saw before the meeting and there was a different one that our Police Department
did not the Basel one which was really just counts it wasn't a an analysis is that the one from July of 23 no there this one this one goes back to 20 24 uh I think it was February of 24 I'll
make copies and I'll I'll send them to all the council it was on their letterhead with the the whatever that Arrow so the traffic department provided the ordinance committee uh additional information from the police yes yes okay y my only problem is that we have an
ordinance we have to enforce it that's my you know we make these ordinances we don't enforce them that's you know it's we make this look silly but well give it a shot if it doesn't work we'll get rid of it I guess the only thing I'd like to say is for the residents to know that we
really really take their concerns to heart we work very hard to address them um with keeping everybody else in mind so um it's not not an easy thing to do um it's a delicate balance and we really hope that this works and doesn't have an adverse effect at another area but uh we
certainly listen we hear everyone and we we work together to uh do the best we can for you without you know affecting another zone so we hear you we thank you and uh have patience with us W yes skara yes Sasso yes Mee yes
leosa yes Bennett yes Matthews yes motion carries resolutions we have off consent R 54-25 is the emergency temporary budget have a motion motion motion by Leos s second second by
Sasso I can't imagine there's discussion but put it out there R call Bennett yes leosa yes mey yes Sasso yes Kara yes wki yes Matthews yes motion carries cassette
agenda MR2 and 03- 25 and R 55-25 to R to 60-2 mro 2-25 is to install a handicap parking space at Block 17 lot 14 mro
3-25 is removal of a handicap parking space at block 196 lot 6 R 55-25 is a payment of the njib note that was the $1 million payment that Eric was discussing R 56-25 is a redeem of a tax SES
certificate R 57-2 is deposed to the S Valley sewage commission's expenditure of $1.6 billion gosh for the parallel in scepter that's a lot of crap yeah literally don't flush you know the especially if it's yellow let it mellow
uh we might have to Res resort to that uh R 58- 25 is the support publishing legal notices on official government websites R 59-25 isling the support for sustainable land use practices for
2025 R 60-2 is the revised assessment 2019 Road program for 101-103 Prescott Avenue R 61-25 is approved change order for and project closeout water line service replacement
phase two for shoger and R 6225 is to authorize the shared service with the board of education for the roller hockey rank have a motion by Mee second by leosa any discussion on discussions Joe wasn't
me I know I was keing them no Jo wants to go first go ahead all right just curious we make this resolution of property owners that are no longer Property Owners at some of these locations why wouldn't we update it to revise it to the who the actual since we're revising it put it who the new
like I know that uh 149 doesn't live there anymore so why wouldn't we update it with the new owner's name I don't know what you're referring to I'm referring to uh the uh 60-2 it's the because the assessment
would go to whoever was there when they did the project so the person left it's still going to for 2019 I but those Eric you can explain this I don't think it has to do with the prop own it was two different 101 and 103 or two different
houses right but 149 is still listed with the old owner's name no we're not changing that portion of it so we're only changing the portion of the assessment that relates to 101 and 103 Prescott but if we know they're new owners why wouldn't we put the new
owner's name on the revision at 101 and 103 no 149 we're not touching 149 14 we still going to address it to people don't live there no this this road program has already been assessed so this is not with this is not the
assessment this is correcting only as to 101 and 103 Prescott right because it has portions of theirs on the other Lots so we're publishing this again why would we publish it with the appropriate people who own prop we're not publishing
it again it sure it does it gets published no it's it's all right it's just back up for this resolution um but so councilman this this um document is from
2023 this this road program is from 2023 so these notices were sent out that year right and there was some mix up with don't know with the block and LW I I remember Boswell wrote this the letter saying that the one property had
unfortunately these owners at that time may not be the same I don't know honestly where these come from but then it's a it's the going just changing one property all right thank
you see I wasn't going to bring it up but you said my name so I did it I'm sorry I did Mike let's here hear from you thank you um I I want to discuss um R 6225 um I want to honestly say that I'm
disappointed how long this process took and the ugliness that came along with it um with the current contract I still have some issues with that I don't believe some wording should be in there in a shared service
agreement with that being said said um I think we need to move forward though and get this thing taken care of um it's you know there's a bunch of winners and a bunch of losers the winners are going to be the kids that are play and uh this
taking two years plus of our time and the board of Ed's time were the losers so I'm going to be in favor of this but I'm going to tell you I'm not I'm not happy about it anyone else have any comments roll call
wki yes skara yes Sasso yes mey yes leosa yes Bennett another hard no on R 62- 25 yes on all the others thank you and
Matthews yes thank you motion carries reports of special County committees Dominic we'll start your way um I just want to thank the finance committee for the hard work and the administration for what we've done I believe we'll have a final next next
meeting we're talking and we'll have a final we're in good shape thank you again Marie so the Board of Ed met last night and uh the biggest topic was what we've talked about a lot was the roller rink and I think everybody feels
glad that we've come to a conclusion um and we're all tired of it um the good news is um you did a beautiful presentation about the poster winners so I'm not going to discuss it but to congratulate the fact that we had so many wonderful applicants um and I'll
just comment that Friday March 29th um Washington school is having a wax museum and the kids are going to they're just doing great so I encourage everybody to visit that um for more details please con go on of the board board of education website what was that date what's the March 29th that's that's a
Saturday all right Saturday then I'm sorry they told me Friday I'm sorry I will I will confirm and send an email to everybody I'm sorry it's Friday whatever that is 28th then forgive my I was driving forgive
me and and trying to take notes I know I apologize the four ambulance core the CPA course for the 22 is full however they have such success they're scheduling another one for April and I will keep you apprised of that that is
the end of my report Bruce uh nothing today fin uh just wanted to make some announcements um that were in the mayor's letter um the environmental commission and green team um we're going to be doing the green lecture series again we're going
to be back at the library uh April 3rd at 7 o'cl and it's about the horor recycling program and um Saturday April 26th from 10: to 2 is our 33rd cell Earth bration and the theme is water
equals life um so come on out for that and um the bird walks um we did announce our schedule for the spring our first one is April 5th at 9:00 at goel Brook far uh Park I know it's said Farm um at the park so come on down we have a lot
of events everything's on um the website and also on the Facebook and it's been in the mayor's letter so I appreciate that and tap net so come on out thanks Michael not tonight Joseph all right first tomorrow March 20th will be
the Board of Health meeting and I make the Assumption the mayor has spoken to all the appropriate people to be present yes I have and uh there was uh one uh person that said they'll they can't make
it but they'll be uh you can call her by phone all right that's disappointing that is disappo very disappointing we need to look elsewhere I I've uh I've sent uh Phyllis uh emails uh telling her
that to tell the nurse to be there I've sent I've talked I spent time doing an email to the nurse directly and uh and the board does have questions for both
the the health inspector and the bural nurse um and I don't see why why they can't make it to a meeting that uh is every quarter and it's like five meetings a year and four meetings a year
there's four meetings and one dog back it doesn't take a lot of time to to come out and go to to the meeting and address whatever questions the board members have they have they're taking their time to do what theyve been charged to do our
board members and I think you as an employee should be able to at least attend the meeting no explanation is no explanation I would I just suggest we're talk that's we far enough perhaps the finance committee could consider unfund that
position well the administration we're into some other things well we can re that position date if the employee is not going to cooperate why do we have that employee I would I would suggest that we gone far enough with the discussion yeah well we're stretching the boundaries because
this has been an ongoing for a year Michael than since you put me on the committee I've never seen to all of you I recognize the frustration and that it is a problem I just say that um I think we've gone far enough yes sir frustration is not with the
administration whatever just want express that to people that are not aware of what we're talking about yeah and I share in your frustration I just say like okay yes all right I'm happy now he goes old lawyer on us yeah
I'm happy to announce the 2025 St Anthony's Feast is June 11th 12th 13th and 14th and since Le uh councilwoman leosa brought his name up Joe gole Farms will be doing the feast prep cook with
me the 25th and the 26th I know it's cell Earth bration I know it's life and water but I I got to be in the kitchen what days is that 12 13th 2526 no prep cooking is 25 and 26 this
month April and then the feast is 11 12 13 14 and I sure hope my Sue Chef will be there yeah I can mark down but you might June or [Laughter] July right isn't there a particular person
that should be there when you're doing the food as well will that person be there I'm not going to comment cuz I was told to stop I'm just saying a person there should be one person one time there there will be people there preparing the food and yes
overs there would be an oversight person expected to be there um so we'll see how that goes got it I had to get that dig in I saw that that's right thank you Mr President I I would just like to
uh thank the council for the patience that you've had with the administration in putting uh the agreement together uh uh we went back and forth as Michael said for probably the last two years and uh we're just happy that uh the council
uh approved it and uh this way we can move forward especially for the kids that's what the that's what this is all about it's for the kids it's not for us but uh you know we uh we we we we put our hearts and soul into this because the kids are are are what they are they
they they want to they want to participate in this particular sport other other children participate in different sports so uh this will be a big u a big plus uh as soon as we get the boards done after uh in the summertime and it'll be uh you know
it'll be a win-win for uh for the kids uh committee's last night's planning board meeting was cancelled and the Chamber of Commerce would like to announce their annual Spring Fling is going on so shop local d local buy your Easter gifts your
Mother's Day gifts Father's Day gifts teachers gifts graduations or birthday gifts save your receipts bring them to the chamber they'll make a copy of them and you you'll be entered in to receive a prize that will be notified at the end of June uh at the farmers
market so support your local businesses and that's all I have we have bills well we have no correspondence but we do have bills have a motion to approve the bills and forward them to treasure for payment motion motion by Sasso second by leosa any
discussion roll call Benet yes leosa yes mey yes saso yes skara yes wki yes Matthew no upstand on the fire department Campell too late Campbell fire trucks yes on all
other and Matthews yes motion carries went through all the and I didn't see any public comment and I open the meeting to the public if anyone desires to be heard go forward to the microphone state your name 16 Horizon
terce to the mayor since you're the executive for the town I'd like like to know who the uh the Zone official who issued the permit for that guy that Liv across for me there's no name on that permit no name
whatsoever I don't have I look for it probably in my other fault but I want to show the town this is what my my yards look like before this nightmare and this is what's after and I keep reiterating this
because I'm going to Prevail with my neighbor my neighbor's going to say to himself they gave me the permit to do this who's know they're going to whose door they going to knock on this door then what are you going to do this keeps roll bowling rolling and rolling and
rolling I'm definitely going to Prevail at the end it's just that it's taken such a long time five years I've been doing this with the previous administration I was this close to almost getting it done until other situations got k and that's this is
unbeli unbelievable if this happened to your property you'd be on fire right now look at it I even had deer grazing I don't have grass deer what I have is a mud hole have a nice day
gent thank you I'm Kathy sarapin 148 North watchong Drive so I'm sorry I didn't catch your name Kathy sarapin thank you sure um I'm here first of all I didn't know that this was going to happen tonight so just
to tell you how appreciative I am of that whole thing um it's just it gets worse and worse every year however as happy as I am I actually came here tonight to tell you that
although I keep hearing that there are more officers more police more police I still have yet to see any police on that street and there are cars now every day at least three or four a day or at
night it sounds like it's the Indianapolis 500 going up that street I I don't know if you still hear it I do it's it's just maddening now it's ridiculous time least it's sometimes it's like 3 o'clock in the afternoon and
then other times it's like 6 7 8 9 10 o'clock at night and it at first I thought maybe it's just because they're revving the motors but no they're speeding they have to be speeding I I just we need to have police
there at all times until we figure out how to get rid of this it it's just like I said it's it's scary now it's really getting scary sometimes you need to train the public to be a little bit afraid that you're gonna get a ticket and then keep presence for say a month
or two and then even if obviously you can't dedicate somebody there all the time but I I agree with you 100% uh the chief of police has told us that as of this January we finally had some people come back from long-term outs as well as new officers that are now trained to do
this so like councilman mey said what good is this without enfor yeah so I think by the nature of what we're trying to do we need enforcement there to make it work I will take care of that tomorrow we have to have it every day until it's done you know let me ask you a question sure the speed are
they going up north or com down I I think in the for most time they're going up you're talking about RAV extension aren't you yeah I'm talking going from North watch onto RAV extension or also coming down where's your concern is it R extension or north north both kind of
right both what direction would they be going up see I I don't by the time I get up and go look they're gone so I I I don't know I just know it's very loud and it sounds like they're going very fast a lot of a lot of the cars What I Hear are starting
at the curve on the bottom of RAV extension and then just gunning it all the way up I I hear him too I imagine gun going BR can't even do the speed liit it's not it's not going down I wanted to ask a question to get
clarification so you're hearing it on rayev and you're hearing it on both but you're thinking that they're going up north watch I mean I think but I mean I have to try and make it so that I get up in time to see what you know so we've been trying to address this for I can't tell you how long we put the signs for
the no overweight trucks and mayor we talked about there's no room to put the speed trailer but maybe we could put one of those signs the flashing signs since there's no sidewalk there it's it's a challenging curve it's a tight area right um and it is even challenging
for officers to sit there's no place for them to park so um let them sit in her driveway yeah I know hers or you yeah no you don't want to we know that there's more traffic we we we we all agree we know there's more traffic there's more people there's more
cars I I was thinking of uh if if I can piggy back uh on a councilwoman's hassle um you know how we have those um um the uh speed limit at other Avenue is that what you're talking about that's I was saying
okay that's the there's no room to put the trailer right that's just taking po pole mount space but the only thing with those are if there's not a camera on that it's not going to do any good you got to have the camera I will tell you the pole ones Slow Me Down on more Burton and on D they do come with
cameras too we we just got a new one that that goes onto a pole or or not a tree but a pole and it does have cameras in it and it does detect the uh speed that you're
going uh and it gives a time when when it is so puts a little strobe on there well right now it's on a different street yeah uh as soon I I'll ask them to move it and and put something there and I'll have have them put the what I call the sandwich boards up there to tell them how fast they're going okay um
yeah no uh I I don't know and I don't hear anybody on northw cuz that that's like way in the front of my house but uh you know we will take we will address both both uh the trucks
both streets if we can the trucks are not paying attention to that sign that that's doing nothing never did we put three up now yeah it's not doing anything well there was a truck I two weeks ago I as a matter of I talked to um the lieutenant m a couple weeks ago I
I I think I had a meeting with him and then I called him but anyway there was a truck that was the biggest truck I ever saw in my life I swear to God going and making that turn and how I don't know how he did it but he
did but it was longw it was like just about right at my fence when as it was making the turn yeah so they're not paying attention to any so Kathy what side are you on West Chong are you on the left or the right the
split rail fence right at the corner the and the GU and the guide rail guide rail that's we replaced about a year ago the one well no you're actually it's going to be replaced under the new uh driveway uh Road resurfacing program okay this year I knew there was a replacement
required I'm waiting so you're up on on the top of North Wong yeah on the first like when you're when you're when you're turning right when you're turning in Raina it it should be on your right side down down below so you're up at the top yeah where the
cars are all turning the last house there's then there's the house to the left of mine is the last house on North watch okay and are you having trouble getting out of your parking lot out of your driveway sometimes depends on the time of day but for the most part it's
hard to make the turn if we're just going to go down North watchong it's not bad if we're going to go up R have extension then it sometimes is bad the hardest part is trying to make a left out of the way because the cars are just shooting down they're shooting down or
shooting up shooting down down okay yeah well but I mean that that's we've had our the whole time 40 years we lived there we've always had that problem you know but it's just that they're going faster yeah well like councilwoman Sasa said I mean this has been a really
difficult area and I know it's been talked about for years and you know I had some reservations and that's why we we do our homework and we listen and we hear and we talk to people and so we're going to try it this is what I'm told
and you know come up with a solution like we're trying to do something um I think the opportunity now is that we have a different administration at the county and they're open to allowing us to do what we want to do on RAV we've them miles per hour and making those no
lefts on there and we also are getting that light and I think the light is very good um a big piece of what's good about this so new new people new eyes are looking at it and open mind so we're
going to try and we all ask that we have patience and if it works it works if it doesn't then we'll go back to the drawing board um but it's a busy street and but there's also other streets in this town too that we have cut through
and people are speeding and so you know there is a concern about that concerning in one area think to myself who ever constructed that whole thing more like what were they thinking when they did that there's there's no other turn to this problem unfortunately and so we're
just trying to come up with the best possible Mand but but he knows who buil it he'll answer you also have to remember when when a lot of this infrastructure was built there wasn't as many cars on the road families today have not one car they have two three
four cars sometimes per family so there's a lot more cars and a lot more traveling to and from work that you didn't have go back you know 50 years ago that was was that was original CAC and they opened it up it was a culde saac and the builders who built the
houses on on your side complain to the administration back in the old days to open up for better resale value on the houses when they first built them if I have have to sell my house I don't know it's going be so easy thank you again for everything I really thank you Kathy
conflict of interest do anyone else wish to be heard you're up oh want seeing no one it's a motion to close the public P of the meeting so moved motion by withi second by skier
all in favor I I motion carries our next council meeting is Wednesday April 2 at 7 p.m. can have a motion to adjourn move so Move Motion by with Tei second by skira all in favor motion
carries we're adjourned