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e e e e e e papers do we do we know who the streets are for next year council president we're ready ready yes thank
you at 7:04 I call tonight's meeting to order roll call Bennett here leosa here mey here saso here skara here Wy here Matthews here please rise and join us in the pledge of
allegiance algi to the flag the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all adequate notices meaning has been provided by theual schedule regular
meetings here adopted and posted on the public bulletin board at the missile building emailed to the her news the record The Gazette and all persons who've requested the mailing of such since November 19th 2024 approval of the minutes have approval of the minutes for the regular
meeting of February 19th 2025 so Move Motion by wki second by leosa any discussion roll call wki yes skara yes Sasa yes Mee yes leosa yes Bennett yes
Matthews yes motion carries public comment and now for the meeting to the public anyone desires to be heard on agenda items please come forward to the microphone state your name something on the agenda yes okay well is it regarding one of the ordinances yes then during that
ordinance I'll say the same thing to come up this is like generic okay seeing no one else I re uh entertain a motion to close public portion so move second byi second by skar all in
favor motion carries adoption of ordinances we have Bond ordinance 2358 d25 is a bond ordinance providing for the road reconstruction including Milling Paving and resurfacing as well as curbing handicap ramps and related improvements on various streets of properties described herein and
Hereafter identified all in the said the burrow of hathorne in the county of bake New Jersey appropriating 1 million $130,000 therefore in authorizing the issuance of bonds or notes of the B of horor in the same of 1,700 thou
17,000 for the financing of the same now open a meeting of to the public anyone desires to be heard please raise your hand to be recognized and come forward to the microphone seeing no one I entertain a motion of the public hearing on this ordinance be closed and that it be
resolved that this ordinance was posted on the bulletin board in which Public Notices are customarily posted published in the record made available on the Bor website and available to the public now therefore be it resolved this ordinance be adopted and the clerk is authorized to advertise the same according to law
so Move Motion by B second by skara discussion roll call Bennett yes leosa yes mey yes Sasso yes skara yes wki yes Matthews yes motion carries Bond
ordinance 23 59-25 Bond or is providing for the road reconstruction resurfacing drainage curb sidewalk handicap ramp improvements on various streets is described specifically herein in the burrow of hathorne in the county of Pake New Jersey appropriating
$768,000 therefore and authorizing issu of bonds or notes in the amount of 285,000 for the B financing of the same and now open to meeting to the public anyone's desires to be heard regarding this ordinance please raise your hand and be recognized come forward to the microphone state your name
seeing no one I entertain a mo motion that the public hearing on this ordinance be closed and that it be resolved that this ordinance was posted on the bulletin board on which Public Notices are customarily posted published in the record made available on the Bor website and available to the public now
therefore be it resolved this ordinance be adopted and the clerk is authorized to advertise the same according to law have a motion by withy second by saso any discussion vocal wki yes skara yes Sasso yes M yes
leosa yes Bennett yes Matthews yes motion carries Bond ordinance 23 60-2 a bond ordinance providing for the Reconstruction or replacement of sidewalks and driveway aprons on various streets as identified on the schedule made part here of as described specifically herein in and by the bur of
hathorne in the county of B New Jersey appropriating $300,000 therefore authorizing issuance of bonds or notes in the amount of $285,000 for the financing part of the cost thereof and directing a special assessment of the cost thereof now open
a meeting to the public anyone desires to be heard regarding dis ordinance feel free to come forward and state your name yeah she'll give yeah she'll give you a microphone a little bit thank you very much hello we can't hear you now but
it's okay thank you very much have a good night um all right hi so my name is Vasquez uh one of the residents um here and I just have a couple clarification questions on here um so there are seven of them so I'm going to go quick just
rapidy are you holding an a proposed assessment sheet yes that's not for this this is for the broad program going forward is cor 23625 oh this is this isn't the assessment Commission because
obviously on thein got a not on the yeah but not the hearing okay go ahead yeah okay now that's clarified um so question number one um so at the top I see the estimated cost and then I see the total estimated cost however I also see in the
line before it as bid along with Associated design inspection and uh administrative cost so in the total estimated cost is are the design inspection and administrative costs accounted for or no they are separate joke
sorry shouldn't be talking to you no that's okay he's the one that'll answer it but you're talking right to the chair probably help if I turn on the mic yeah um so I believe in the letter it estimates a cost of $100 for 4 in
sidewalk slabs and $110 for six yeah um I don't know if that includes the administrative C and design cost but
yes all right um You would add a small percentage to that usually I just round up the next 100 um however it should be noted that the estimated prices of the uh sir work
are based off past projects and other projects that we've done the construction data we have available to us the final price or the unit prices of the materials are going to be determined by the contractors winning bid um but we believe that that's a close estimate to
what you would be paying so um just because I'm I'm an architectural designer so I have a little bit of knoow but like how recent would you say those cost estimates are just because we see price increases year to year and um I mean we do projects throughout
the year so our traffic department is all right fantastic all right great thank you um so next question uh I see that there's a payment plan available do we know what interest rate
that would be chop it up and they do it over five years right or you pay it in front I I don't know if the interest rate would be based on our most recent bonds issued which I think our rate is somewhat under 4% and the most recent bonds we had um I
don't have it at at my uh it's not 12 or 18 like a credit card so it's a pretty good deal if you want to spread it out yeah just making sure and couple years ago you know a few years ago it was much lower before we had those Bond sale but right interest rates have gone up um
thank you for that um and then the tree removal I'm assuming would be an additional cost no if that's no that would be included with the estimate no that's our cost that's that fall that's on the burrow okay we're hoping there's none of them
right or a replanting if if ra um and then how will the recent tariffs affect this work it's all done in the United States that's what I assumed but I figured USA
Concrete USA Labor yeah all right cool um timing and scheduling of the work on the property will we get ample notice when it comes time to have the contractor actually do the work um just
because there's other questions that I have if not um normally the contractor is required to put out a notice the residents that work will be performed usually at bare minimum a week you'll usually get a knock on the door
at least a week but usually before that so okay cool thank you and then parking expectations so on my property I have two driver ways aprons that are going to be worked on and that means that four cars are going to be
displaced and my street has um essentially double parking um available on street parking available so will there be accommodations made for the displacement of those vehicles that can no longer use those um driveway
aprons in the 30-day cure period that the concrete's going to be curing um the driveway shouldn't remain unavailable for but I'm sure we can work something out with the contractor to make sure
that either both driveways aren't unable yeah they they either aren't being done at the same time or we can work it out that way we can make sure street parking is available the issue with that being that
concrete takes time to cure so it it takes about 30 days to fully cure but you have full strength within a week or you'll have majority you'll have you'll have majority strength within a week you should be able to drive over
it will I be able to reach out to the police department if I need to cordon off a section of my um of the street in front of my property to be able to park there when I can't access my driveway street parking is public you
don't own your space in front of your house house so pretty much everybody on that block is going to be in the same boat so it's kind of like free forall yeah sorry I'm I'm sure the in places where parking is tight the police
department can work with the engineer um and contractor of of of trying to find as good a possible solution to the problem I can't say what it'll be undoubtedly won't be perfect but we I'm sure the police can help uh um figure
out how best to handle things okay um and that's it that's all my questions thank you very much thank you for asking than you all right anyone else wish to be heard on this ordinance seeing no one uh entertain a motion that the
public hearing on this ordinance be closed and that resolve this ordinance was posted on the bulletin board of which Public Notices are customly posted published in the record and made available on the Bor website and available to the public now therefore be it resolved this ordinance be adopted and the clerk is authorized to advertise the same according to law have a motion
motion by Mee second second by skara discussion roll call Bennett yes leosa yes mey yes saso yes skara yes wki yes
ma'am Matthews yes s ordinance 23612 an ordinance to commend and supplement chapter 540 zoning ordinance of the bur of hathorne bake County New Jersey regulating the gasoline service stations with convenience stores in the B1 zone now open a meeting to the public
if anyone desires to be heard regarding this ordinance raise your hand and be recognized come forward to the microphone state your name where's Nino tonight seeing no one entertain a motion of the public uh entertain a motion that the public hearing be closed on this ordinance and be resolved this ordinance
be posted on the bulletin board in which Public Notices are customarily posted published in the record and made available on the B website and available to the public now therefore be it resolved this ordinance be adopted and the clerk is authorized to advertise the same according to law have a motion move s motion Bennett second by
Sasso roll call W yes skara yes Sasso yes mey yes leosa yes Bennett yes Matthews yes motion carries one more to go Bond ordinance 23622 Bond ordinance providing for acquisition of fire department Capital
Equipment specifically fire apparatus in and by the bur of horor in the county of Pake New Jersey appropriating the sum of $1,700,000 therefore authorizing issuance of bonds or notes of the burrow in the amount of
$1,615 for the financing of the same I now open a meeting to be heard by the public if anyone desires to be heard please come forward and state your name uh Frank yes I believe the equipment is God bless you it's almost
20 years old you know it's it's two it's starting to go and for those who uh were not part of the review it's taking two to three years to get a piece of equipment these days so we're hoping the other one doesn't know we're buying a new one
yet nobody wants to be heard oh come on you guys came all the way down here all right that's fine huh oh okay we're gonna vote Yes all right seeing no one I entertain
a motion the public hearing on this ordinance be closed that it be resolved this ordinance was posted on the bulletin board which Public Notices are custom posted published in the record made available on the Bor website and available to the public now therefore be resolved this ordinance be adopted and the clerk is authorized to advertise the same according to law have a motion
second motion by second second by leosa can you she said it no but you said motion by second oh motion by leosa okay motion by Benn it was a motion by Bennett he said it you called him second yeah you called him second don't pick on
council president all right guys sorry can you repeat that who made we're all confused who's on first motion by Bennett second by leosa thank you roll call Quick Bennett are you sure are you
sure yes thank you leosa yes mey yes saso yes ma'am skara yes wki abstain Matthews yes motion carries old business Joe will start your way excellent I was sent an email in
regards to the signage on 204 wag Road I see the signs are still up is there any update yes yes they came in they got a zoning permit uh and the zoning permit is good for 90 days and they said after the 90 days a sign has to come down and a smaller sign to go up perfect thank
you that's it on Old Mike uh question mayor do we have an update on the EMT ambulance coverage for the borrow we're still working on it the the uh actually the uh percentage has gone uh way up
with regard to corthorn responding and uh the guys are work the the core is working on it and uh they're they're doing a lot a very good job of it okay so internally we're we've increased we've increased almost
60% okay uh responding but we do we still have some gaps in there that we need to there's there's gaps here and there like every everybody else and they're they're working on it yes okay all right you let would you let us know when when we have some final resolution for 100%
coverage just don't be that 4% I I will I'll yeah I'll let you know thank you Rea uh not tonight Bruce nothing old and Mar I'm good thank you Dominic nope have new
no I'm okay Andi I'm good thank you Bruce uh yes um I don't know who to address this to but one of the residents on Washington a uh contacted me and uh to report that a whole section there
Washington Sylvester a the residents did not receive their water bills last quarter and by the time they realized it they're now being charged a a penalty to uh pay the bill and this particular woman said she paid the bill but she is
not paying the the fine or interest or interest because she feels it's not fair the burrow has a responsibility to make sure that their residents get the water bills I don't know whether it was a problem with the post office or what
happened in this particular case but there are a lot of people in that area that are very unhappy with us at the moment well I can tell you Bruce that yes there was a problem with the post office okay that that entire route went out uh I
believe well it was long before the the new it was right after the right after they the their their quarter was up mhm um and there was a number of people uh not only in your area but in in town
that did not get the bills um we've contacted the post office we contacted the Apollo who's the manager we contacted Teterboro um I even I sent a uh a memo to uh Nancy who was the lady
who was doing it when uh Congressman pasc was alive she was doing it from here now she's in Washington Washington and she's working from there uh I haven't had uh a talk with her uh
recently but uh I can surely do that uh you know tomorrow the next day so what about the interest what you going to do according to the state law they they have to pay the interest uh it's uh it is something it's out of our hands it's
not uh something that we it's in our our ordinance or anything it's a state statute so the state passes a law that says you have to pay the interest if you don't get your bill but they don't pass a law that says it's mandatory to get the bills to them well I mean we that
how works we did our due diligence the bills were the bills were mailed out uh like I said right at the end of the quarter uh and right now what we do is we put it out on nixel uh with regard to look for
your water bill because you're you're your territory is going to be um receiving your water bills and I even put it in my Friday letter and uh it uh it we do get calls um and you know we we
try to keep them alert uh at all times is there the opportunity you could have them view what their bill is online they can do that they can do that online we it that's that's in the nixel it actually the Friday letter explains to them exactly how to do it
they can pay it online also they can view it online they can they can see what it is what the bill is and they can the first the first two letter the first two numbers of your bill is your territory and then the rest is is uh you
know your account number what about um get notifications mayor are they able to get notifications thats can I finish you want me to finish go ahead they do get the notifications before the they get a nixel before it
goes out and they get a nixel when it goes out so it it it it keeps them uh apprised of what it is there's a number of people that I don't know the number but there's a number of people that have not signed up for nixel so it goes in my
Friday letter uh you know that's basically I think all we can do I don't know what other Avenue we have people have several options if they know they get their their bill the first week in in March and the first week of June and the first
week of September and first week of of December make a note on the calendar then they can go in and check on our website we do more than because we don't deliver the mail we do more than your um credit card bill
Bank does for you we do more than any private utility does for you in terms of trying to get nixel out nixel out and let people know if they want to and and we do have the ability for people to go online and check but we are not responsible for delivering the mail we
could do overnight uh mail and it will cost us an extra whatever it is now $15 or something to deliver we and the cost everybody's cost would then go up that much or more because there's a lot more manpower involved in that we we have a responsibility to put them in the mail
which we do but we do not have a responsibility to deliver the mail and if just as if you don't get your credit card bill and you don't pay it on time and there's interest acred to it they're not going to wave the interest they you know when your credit card bill is due I
know when mine's due if I don't get my bill I check problem is there's a lot of elderly that don't have smartphones that get nixel they don't know even how to go on a website they can put a note on their calendar and they can call if they don't get the bill he guys you I mean
there there there's ways there's self-help ways uh for people to do things and we try to do extra to go beyond what we're required to do to make it happen that's uh um you know I think that's as far as we can go I don't think
we can we can guarantee that people get them the mail that we that we send to them could I now ask my question sure so I'm gonna ask a question I'm gonna make a statement the question first is are we able to give them
digital not notification through email we don't we're looking at the at that we're look we can grow that you know that database to help them they don't have to worry about you know and if they could pay it online that's how
credit cards do it and the the issue that I'm going to talk about Eric is that I agree that we probably do a lot more than other municipalities do um the difference is that they're getting this once a quar and it's not top of mind to remember and yes all the things you say are correct but guess what not everybody
is as organized or thinks about their water bill until they actually see it so the Ben's intentions sometimes aren't the best served so yeah you know you're right and and I feel bad for this woman who didn't get a mail she did nothing wrong um and now she's being penalized
because she wasn't as organized as we would like her to be and that's a shame how much was now I don't know how much how much interest is on you know how how much was a bill 100 bucks it was a bill 100 bucks and at the interest rate it's probably a few cents it's certainly less
than a dollar it may be 10 cents 15 cents 20 cents something like that I mean it's not like she's being financially disadvantaged understand it's a principal thing for most people I understand if if it's a state state law
that you you can't yeah the problem is look we can talk all day long about whose fault it is the the bottom line is it's the law and we don't have the authority to wave the interest we just don't otherwise we could get into waving
penalties and interest for all kinds of people if we had that Authority so the state ties your hands uh so in order to prevent bad things from happening they punish good people I I understand and in this case we should be able to wave it but we can't I got you I'm just looking
at maybe another Avenue that there was there was some uh people who came in and said they weren't paying the interest it was one was like I think 17 cents another one was like 21 cents
so the people in the office took the money out of their pocket and paid it um you know that that's fantastic I understand and it's great that we have great people here that you know are willing to just to all right let's I don't want to talk
about this anymore we'll move on next okay I'm good I'm good Bruce I started this you did start it Joe Mike Mike Mike no it was going to JX
because Dominic did old and they worked our way back down so it's Joe's Next or new or oh all right so I have nothing I do okay all right in the baseball lot every morning now there's
trucks with the NG Tree Service do they have a contract to park all their trucks in our baseball lot what the Overflow lot which lot it's wag three oh they fill up wag three with so they pull the orange trucks in they dump their
equipment they go to uh Crossroads they eat breakfast and then they come back pick up their equipment and drive away no they don't have a permission to do that so I called DPW and DPW said ask Administration they know nothing about it it's none it's not down we don't know
about it we don't know no we'll notify the police that's all is I didn't want to notify the police unless you guys had maybe a contract with them that they could dump their stuff there right no is it every day it's every day Monday through Friday they're dumping stuff Joe no no they dump their it's the uh all
the equipment that yeah it's like trailers and hitched and the Beaver that chews up the trees you know the beaver machine I don't know what its real name is Jo go different white chipping oh good cuz this one the next one's going the other direction Dom
you'll be happy about this oh boy what else do you have Joe I got driver training in the pool parking lot Oh Come On's wrong with that no I think it's an issue because it's not just one or two cars now it's it's paid services and and
family members what is the you know what is our know what if they crash into something the they insurance would cover whatever happens whether they damage our property or we can't put up signs that say you know your responsibility for
driver training I mean truthfully we want safer drivers out there so um I under the circumstances really nothing WR it's a public parking lot there's nothing that says somebody couldn't use it for the purpose of you know teaching
your kid how to parallel park um which is a losing proposition but all right as long as there's no liability there's no liability issue and it's something frankly we would never discourage all right same lot now it seems that the I guess the
gym has become so popular that the Overflow for the PO for the gym is now the pool parking lot and I have pictures is that the same way anything well no the the the parking in the pool lot is intended for people using the
pool or practicing driving or buying Christmas trees so but for you know burrow type things the people who are practicing driving fness are not parking um it's not a public parking lot where people can park and go shopping go to
the gym go up the street somewhere else um we don't tend to enforce it very strictly when it's not being used for purposes like the summer in the pool but uh if it becomes problematic we would look to it's started only a couple cars
there's quite the number of cars that park there now I mean we would look at it if the police deem it a problem and then the police have the discretion to issue summonses is there any time frame Joe an hour night oh night time not not in the morning night time yeah fed we
also have a few residents who Park their cars these are definitely not residents no but I'm saying we do you do know there are people I do know who park there um we we tend to Live and Let Live all right that's all I have okay we'll turn to the
administrative agenda presented by mayor leane thank you Mr President we have the honor tonight to have judge of the serate Court Zola kazanova with to be with us so judge if you'd like to come up please I didn't do
it was it me it's not yep it's green now hello thank you marene I don't hear myself but I'll I'll use my court voice which is very loud anyway thank you
mayor Lane councel clerk for attorney engineer and the ba for I am as maryan said the county surrogate judge and it is my honor to be here tonight on this lovely Rainy Night
but I wanted to discuss some of the events that I host and am hosting currently in the county throughout as pay County surrogate judge I I am committed to ensuring that all residents have access
to valid Services related to Wills Estates Guardianship and adoptions one of my key initiatives is expanding the community outreach through educational workshops helping families understand Estate Planning and probate
process since being elected in 2022 I have introduced various initiatives such as make a will events to make sure that veterans and our seniors of pay County avoid passing without a last will in Testament therefore I'm here to share
that on April 11th thank you for sharing that in your newsletter maror Lane I will be hosting my make a will event here in horon municipal building for qualifying seniors over 60 and Veterans regardless
of age all you have to do is register at the pay County surrogate Courts website and I'm leaving Flyers with you and an easy QR C Co QR code to reach the website I am also sharing that on May 3rd at the police academy in Wayne I
will be hosting my biannual Wills for our pay County Heroes event by providing free wills for our law enforcement and Fire Fighters and their spouses registration again is required and you can register again at the pay County website at surrogates court website
finally I'm honored to share that I'm also hosting during the Autism Awareness Month in April in partnership with the American dream Mall a sensory friendly free night for children with developmental disabilities
and one companion this event will be held on April 10th from 6:00 to 8:00 pm tickets will be issued by Lottery to registered families again on the pay County surrogates website I am leaving all these lovely Flyers um with your
burrow Clerk and again I want to thank you for your continued support and partnership and in serving the residents of P County and thank you for your time thank you your honor I have a question for you with the uh free wills for the
First Responders uh our EMS included in that also yes okay thank you so long as they're residents of pay count that is they be residents of horor yeah one more question I I actually have maybe two questions sure
one on the wills um if there's two people that are willing you know husband and wife spouses are willing and only one's a senior is there an issue with that yes you'd have to be 60 and over for the makea well here in horon um and
any every other month I host them but um you have to be 60 and over or unless the other spouse is a veteran okay that's regardless of age so long as they should prove matter with that but okay another question is I know you take care of the guardianship yes okay so I I'm in the
process of ping guardianship um papers because you have to do the annual once a year for my son and we made a call to P County uh because we wanted to add my youngest daughter who's now an adult she's 21 she's actually 22 M and we've
not ever received a phone call back I my wife called at least twice well then I will give you my card you call me directly I would appreciate that yes because we normally do are did you leave a message have ship but we just want add did you call directly my office and the guard and ask for the guardianship cler
don't know what number she call okay because normally we even have ai that picks up at night so there's always somebody on that phone when uh other from 12:30 to 1:30 which is our court lunch hour and then AI picks up so you'll be talking to somebody and it
automatically routes to the um if you say the right words AI will route you directly to that guardianship Court Clerk okay so hopefully she called the right number if if I get your but you will have my direct number tonight I'll leave my card thank you any other
questions I just want to say thank you for doing this judge I had the pleasure of sitting next to you at our 125th Gala and you told me that you were doing this program what a wonderful thing you're doing for everybody most people don't realize the importance of having a simple will until
you don't have one and you need it it's so important and the fact that you're doing it at no charge um for our First Responders hats off to you it's wonderful it's my honor to do this and I'm excited that hopefully with poron by August we will have done 3,000 Wills for
the residents of pay County that's great everyone should take her up on this uh amazing opportunity really this thank you don't forget to sign up I will you haven't signed up go Joe thank you again have a good evening thank you thank you your honor I currently working with a
committee that I appointed to install veterans and military service persons the program is in its beginning stages we are getting approval from psng to install the brackets and and banner flags on the polls our plan will be
similar to what you may have seen in white C for frail lawn and other surrounding communities the first batch we plan on having installed on lafette Avenue and Diamond Bridge Avenue and we are targeting that for Memorial Day
hathorne senior residents this year's dinner and play at hathorne high school will take place on Thursday March 20th it is easier this year I'm sorry it is earlier this year if you are planning on attending please call our clerk Lori
Fernandez at 973 42744 93 as a followup the Burrow's new vac truck was delivered last week it has been uh painted with regard to our name
on it and and it is one heck of a great uh service it's in service yes it's uh well worth the money and uh we can actually thank Glenn Rock and North Halen for letting us borrow theirs uh
from time to time we have our own and uh it's uh one heck of a truck it's really good uh and uh please if you have a problem or a concern please reach out to the burrow offices for assistance while we all try to be ahead
of social media we don't see everything our phone numbers and emails are on our or on our website it's www horor nj.org or you can call 973
42711 68 our Police Department is taking applications for students from grades seven and 8 for the junior Police Academy please see our website for more information on you and you can also see the attachment on my Friday letter
applications are due by next Monday March 10th our Police Department also has posted applications for leadership camp this August please see the website for the for the details please slow down and pay attention when driving you will
notice that some of the orange standing markers have been removed and people are now parking in the yellow close to the curb you will be ticketed so please do not park in the yellow it is d dangerous at the
intersections also I've had to I've had uh numerous numerous times throughout the year if you see something that doesn't seem quite right please call our Police Department when you see and when you see it so that they can respond
immediately as you will recall my last couple of letters I mentioned that our police department and specifically our traffic Bureau are actively out there around town for the safety of everyone please obey the driving laws parking speeding parking in the yellow line
areas they are issuing tickets for those not adhering to the traffic laws and now I'll turn it over to my attorney Michael Pall I want to make an entrance the uh short report tonight the uh nothing new
to report on the issues with regard to our our um not so great neighbor Phil spoiled on diamond Bridge Avenue his property continues to aass clutter and become more and more of a junkyard we
will continue to press our case against him he will continue to harass his neighbors and all of us in the community but we'll keep fighting the good fight um affordable housing just so you are all aware you got a few memos from me
um at the end of February the New Jersey Builders Association filed an answer to the complaints filed by 157 communities saying that DCA overstated there were available land and
therefore could not build the number of affordable housing units assigned now DCA told us from the beginning we know our numbers may not be accurate we're working off of a Maps you are on the ground you'll know your numbers better
than we do we were invited to come up with new numbers the Builders Association said not dca's numbers are right that's all they said they did not say why our numbers were wrong they simply said DCA is Right fare housing
also filed an answer they at least did some homework they hired our friend former Master here Dr David Kinsey who said it's great author actually did its math correctly so Cuda is the John Sabo
but in that process if we accept all the town's numbers that reduced their obligation the number of affordable housing units would drop by 16.2% and that's unacceptable so therefore even though you can't build
them you still have to and so he did an analysis and came up with his own formula which increased our number back to 250 if we listen to him I think we need a Statewide lawsuit against our Housing
Authority because this is ridiculous it's it's sad because the only thing that happens here is planners attorneys and Builders are making money on this the actual construction of affordable
housing is somewhat minimal and while it's a great ideal it's been uh a disastrous in the implementation and and that's the real problem here it is a form of social engineering that does not tend to work
and again it's not a a there is a need for housing there is a housing shortage but at what cost and that's it it's really a shame so in any event um oddly enough we were assigned a mediator and a
retired judge who happens to be Judge Thomas Broan who was our judge in the last round when we were in Patterson the good news is Judge brogen knows hathorne and he understood from day one last time
we don't have land our special Master is no longer called a special Master she's now called a facilitator and once again it's Christine Kone who was our special Master last time um I already sent them an email so she behaves or she's out of
the meeting she she uh we will not put up with her attitude well I listen we I know this you yelled at me last time and they all said good job Frank I I whatever the case we will not put up with her obnoxious attitude we're not bringing we're not bringing her to a meeting that's good ide well that's a
good thing for her that was uh not going to happen so in any event we have a conference scheduled for next Tuesday um with the judge with the Special M with the plaintiffs the defendants and everybody else involved
so once again we're going to spend money what gives the building builders standing if they're not residents of our community part of our number anybody is ithor Builder wanted to be part of it anybody is able to challenge your
overall number and so what they're challenging is our determination that our correct number was not 300 units of new housing it's 186 okay then I want to us as burrow horor to officially challenge the fact that no urban
community or city has any obligation under this formula well it wouldn't be in this law so you'd have to start a seate like to start a new one but the lawsuit you'd be filing would be challenging the legislation that was introduced because the those impation
but this is an imple implementation by a judge and and organization within the state that's telling us what the number should be based on air but the urban community thing is actually in the statute Urban Aid communities are
specifically by Statute Exempted well that so it's not fair it's not right then I think there should be a lawsuit filed against the legislation I think right to the governor's office I think you people are people are suing Mont Veil lawsuit has uh expanded there's
about uh 14 or 20 communities that are involved in that um I think where people are going to make their voices Hur as in November because having this shoved down our throats I think people have got it shouldn't be a political issue but it's always been a political issue it should
be a a humanitarian issue based on reality not left right and there's hundreds of blocks in downtown Patterson that need to be developed where houses have been torn down why aren't they developing those because
somewhere along the line it was determined by somebody that people don't want to the the American dream was to move from Patterson to Hawthorne which was fantastic in the 50s and 60s but we all know that there's been a move back to
Urban centers and you've seen gentrification in Jersey City you've seen it but not affordable gentrification no and and so that's what's happening why not why not build up our cities and allow for again affordable housing in our cities and our
suburbs because people do want to live in both so I was I was struggling to find this article that I saved for this very purpose the burden that they're it's such a disparity in the requirements that they're putting on small municipalities like ours versus
other towns so just a few weeks ago um North jersey.com put out this article paramis Town Center they're developing 426 residential units 147 will be one bedroom
apartments 12 will be affordable housing numerically that is certainly not what we've been force fed very low yeah so it's it's offensive to me just even to read that based on what we've been force-fed and we don't
have like that's a lot 426 being developed 147 one bedroom and only 12 listen I don't want anybody to have to be have to swall this Jagged pill that we're we're fighting against it's just not fair their communities you know we know the philosophy is so skewed but
when I read that I was steamed yeah and there are communities if you take it some the West Winds or East Winds or communities that have small populations and large tracks of land they're getting slammed with 500 600 new homes in
communities that only have 3,000 to begin with their entire nature is being changed by this so it's it's um the New Jersey Supreme Court decided it was a constitutional right no other Supreme Courts have followed that or few um and
the fact is it doesn't say that in the Constitution but our court said so Michael isn't isn't New Jersey the only state in the land that has affordable housing all states have it in some form New Jersey is the one that had its Supreme
Court determined it's actually a constitutional right and so as a result courts are being told you're up against a constitutional right and it it really puts so much power in the hands of the developers is it a constitutional right
the words do not appear anywhere in the Constitution but the Supreme Court said so okay um Michael uh Dr Dr Kingsley who reassessed the number that um John uh John gave him what is
his qualifications to do that oh David Kinsey is imminently qualified for this he was our um special Master here he's a professional planner okay he's a highly highly qualified super intelligent um but he is very much a housing advocate
he uh is out of Princeton he's again very accomplished um good what he does but he also works for fair share housing that's who pays him so you're telling me he he agreed with that we did it correctly but then I think we were down
to what 183 186 units 300 but he said no but we're gonna we're going to bump you up because of other communities that can't take the impact so you're going to have to take more am I saying that right right what he said was it's all well and good you you determined what Hawthorne's
impact was but you needed to do the entire region and if you did the entire region you'd realize we're losing 16.2% of all the affordable housing units that's too much so he built it back up by coming up with a brand new
way of doing the math and again his math checks out but it has nothing to do with what we were told to do we call that that's a u problem not an us problem yeah it's you know I mean because if we did what we were supposed to do and we had the right number which is still way
too high yes but we we said okay this is what we're gonna have to you know accept for right now correct and so he just added on another uh you know what was it 64 more units on top of it yeah well what he did was a lot of you asked that question what happens to those units that we don't have to build um his
answer was at least give him this much credit he said it's not fair to give the communities that did accept their numbers a higher number said well guess what guys you get more but why if if if they had abil you know why should the
people who were given too many have to reapportion it among them and and the people that that didn't challenge it you know get to go away I I don't see the logic of that I don't see why that's fair I don't see why what why that makes sense the the the real issue simply
becomes if you start with a number that's too big I liken it to this if if you decided you wanted to feed 500 people because they all needed to eat and you said okay I'm going to feed these 500 but you never considered how much money you had to buy the food and
you never considered how big the hole was that you were going to feed them in then what are you doing here you've decided I need to feed 500 in a hole that fits 300 and you have a budget for 200 that's what we have here we decided
how much we needed to spend before we knew how much we had in the pocket it's it's just a ter terrible way to do your math it was based on need not available land not resources not reasonable
development rates right none of that basically Tail Wag the Dog these numbers have houses that are not going to be built cannot be built but they're numbers that get put on paper they're funny numbers to begin with because we
also know that at the end of the day whether our number is 186 250 or 300 we can't build any of those we don't have the land capacity so we will get a vacant land adjustment we might be able to find areas where we can build 30
units okay you know something like that but we're never going to meet the numbers they have if we use paris's uh crit put one one affordable housing unit in hopefully this will help I don't know add to your argument but is it just a silly question is it make a difference
if the property being developed is for rent or for sell the units yes it does actually the set aside value is different so rentals are considered 20% well under the old formulation under new everything's 20% but uh it used to be
20% because rental properties in theory a family that is in need of affordable housing moves in they improve their lot in life they move out the next family moves in versus people who own a house they just tend to stay there so
ownership tends to get less credit than rental so that was the theory why rental would always get more it they did away with that they did away with RCA all the good things it's for those units are for sale so it's not it's
8% the 12 units on the 147 units I just referenced it's 8 of a percent percent yeah under the old formulation in it was 15% if you had a for sale development 15% of those units should
have been set aside as affordable um that's it's just developers that want to come to town you can only build to sell yeah just kidding so difference anything else on affordable housing let me just go on to one last thing then
more exciting the Bandshell uh Bandell committee met last week we have booked our first acts um we have yes Joe Z and friends coming but at the last Sunday in July Captain Jack coming it is our 10th
anniversary at the band show we're very excited to announce that our our two-time MVP Lisa slop maker has contacted and we do believe we're going to be able to bring super TransAm back to town no way yeah so now that's the
good news the bad news is they do cost a lot of money so it is our 10th anniversary we have to find them aordable housing we need to we need to find developers and people no we need we need donations so we are soliciting we
want to put on a really great year we have some great ideas of some returning acts and some new things but again we might be in backto back over a span of only four days but that's when availability is present both super
Transam and Captain Jack so stay tuned that'll be uh yeah your letters of solicitation Gan Milly is sending them out with Ellen brogno so we are in full swing and uh we'll be reporting from now
until the end of the Bandshell season mayor that concludes my report thank you Michael now turn it over to our engineer Joe burn thank you mayor uh the galvanized water service line replacement uh phase three uh the contractor has nearly completed all the
service Replacements on Third Avenue uh they're currently performing ing soil restoration and completing these straggler addresses uh throughout the burrow and they expect to complete that portion of the work uh actually they expect it to be completed today I'll follow up tomorrow morning to find out
if the weather impacted that schedule at all um but the contractor then plans to mobilize to warber Avenue to complete test pits and service Replacements and we are still awaiting County approval to Begin work on diamond Bridge Avenue
however we're regularly following up with them to try to keep the project moving uh the 2024 2025 roadway improvements uh the road program in local Aid uh striping has been completed at the cdbg ramps um asphalt restoration
at the library will be performed uh when we have consistent warm weather uh the local Aid project uh was previously submitted to and is currently under review by NJ do uh resubmission of the combined 2024 202 5 Road program
plans and design documents uh to the uh NJ moves and ibank portal are currently planned for this week and we expect to have a quick review turnaround time from ibank uh their previous review was only a few days so we expect to get that turned around quickly
okay um the Lafayette streetcap project phase three uh we have received the contractor shop drawings in sub middle package and that is currently under review and uh wag off fields to two and three for the bleacher improvements uh the design documents are currently under
internal review and our nearing completion so that should be ready to go out to bid sooner than later so and that concludes my report mayor thank you and now turn it over to our administrator Eric Mau thank you mayor um Grant applications have been submitted to pet
sayak County for both the 2025 cdbg and the 25 open space Grant programs um res uh there's two resolutions on the off consent agenda tonight um both of which require five
votes our 43 um transfer small amounts of money in the 2024 budget necessary to cover final expenses for the Year resolution r44 um makes amendments to the 2025 temporary budget the most
significant item by far is a million dollars in the water utility coming from water utility Surplus to pay off a portion of the temporary financing for the posos uh treatment system before the New Jersey infrastructure Bank sells Bonds on that project and that will save
a significant interest expenditure over the next 25 years um this money will be replenished to the water utility operating fund with the imminent first payments for settlements of lawsuits against posos
manufacturers um resolutions are 51 52 and 53 are the I mentioned at the last meeting Which authorized costs for the repair of the gole Hill Road Pump Station the insurance claim is being processed which should cover a good portion of this
cost our 2024 annual financial statement is expected from the Auditors this week providing information the administration and the finance committee will need to finalize recommendations to the full Council on the 2025 budget uh with continued by work by the finance
committee we should be ready for Budget introduction by the required date of April 2nd um as part of the vision for the new website which we is scheduled to be rolled out about June of this year uh the administration is working on a number of opportunities for residents to
conduct Municipal Business Online um there would be portals from our website um this should be ready and activated within the next month or so um we will start it on the existing website so it's ready to be rolled into the new website
when that's uh ready on the main website upgrade project I want to thank Lori Lisa slop maker and Anna Marie for their hard work advancing this project and that concludes my report thank you Eric Mr President will answer any questions that the count that the council may have
Dominic is he welid yet for the road program uh no not yet uh the road program needs to get approval from ibank before we can advertise the bid we normally do go up pretty early don't we
well do you know when when the uh the when the paperwork was sent to the ibank um it's going to be sent this week and ibank their last review they turned it around I think in two business days so we expect a quick turnaround we should
get their comments if they have any left back next week though I don't expect them to have assuming we get do this and get go this this will be the earliest we've ever um bid and awarded a road program contract so we say do we normally do it early we try to but we've
never done it this early Steve done it no we absolutely not we we've awarded as soon as May we've never awarded in April okay just stay so the goal is to get it done in April um latest at the
beginning of May um there have been years that it's been May or June but um the goal has always been earlier rather than later all right thank you any other
questions no yes no no go your way then mayor is there any update on the Lincoln Avenue bridge lighting um they still are out with three lights strobing and two lights completely dark at times there's no lights at all
on at the bridge and I'll call them tomorrow again during the day you should go over the bridge I like Dom's answer Go a different way thank you Dom the lights are on the Straight Street bridge I'm not going over that bridge that's how I come home these days
any other questions no anything else mayor that's all Administration has Mr President could I have a motion to approve the uh or record the administrative agenda motion by mey second by Sasso all in favor I motion
carries introduction of ordinances we have none tonight resolutions off consent we have R 43-25 which is 2024 budget transfers R 44-25 is temporary emergency appropriation have a
motion motion by second by uh any discussion roll call wki yes skara yes saso yes mey yes leosa yes Bennet yes Matthews yes motion carries consent agend agenda we have R 45-25
through 53-2 R 45-25 is the lowp benefit for the eligible fire department members R 46-2 is the low set benefit for eligible ambulance core members R 47-25 is the redeem tax sales certificate and
resend the prior action R 48-25 is the state appeal for Block 137 23 R 49-25 is renew or shared service agreement with pamis for B of Motorcycle Maintenance and repairs R 50-25 is an authorized acceptance of the
2025 MPP Grant and funds and r21 or R 51-25 through R53 d25 are redus of previous ones that add the wrong Street on it instead of gole Hill uh gole Hill it was gole road so so R 51-25 is the
emergency contract for the controls for the gole hill Pump Station R 52-25 is emergency contract for the check valve and motors for the Goa Hill Pump Station and Rapid pump our 53-2 is the emergency contract for the
electrical for go Hill Road Pump Pump Station to Academy electric have a motion so move second motion by Bennett second by meley any discussion roll call Bennett yes leosa yes mey yes saso yes
skara yes W abstain on 45-25 yes on all others Matthews yes motion carries reports to special counsel committees Joe will'll start your way Board of Health the rabies clinic is
March 13th in the pool parking lot as long as there's room between 6: and 8:00 p.m. and next Board of Health meeting will be March 20th that is all everyone been
attending we haven't had a meet they skip every other month too much but there's a schedule now there is a schule there's a schedule it's just who shows up that's what I'm asking next meeting March 20th I'll let you know March 21st I'll let you know
okay Michael uh yes the ordinance Committee just met right prior to the council meeting uh discussing some uh traffic uh concerns on our roads and uh we will be uh addressing this with an audiance
coming coming forward two well one one we already discussed well yeah right they're going to be completely we two two ordin two as for introduction correct we're going to break them up and I'm going to have to figure out the procedure for getting rid of the one we tabled we're going to have to get rid of
that and then introduce two new ones so we're splitting it up you're the man for the job Michael well that's what I'm thinking thank you okay that's it he gets paid twice now um just want to announce uh we're having our 33rd um cell bration which is
April 26 at the horor high school um the theme is water equals life um about water and life and uh water conservation and protection and Rain Gardens but it's all about water um equals life so come on down it's from 10 to two at the high
school so we'll be getting things out um shortly thanks can I uh help you out there they mve the polystyrene recycling center from up top by the glass now it's all the way at the bottom in the pit oh my God yeah you got to go that extra
extra Drive how do you follow that one Ru NOP can't follow that one Anna Marie goodness gracious I would just like to um shout out our um First Responders fire department battled two huge fires in the past uh month thank you for making sure
everyone was out okay from pets to most importantly people um we appreciate you you're earning that new truck thank you guys um our Ambulance Corp is hosting their second CPR course on the 22nd of March it's $50 a person
um if you would like to participate please contact the ambulance Corps via email don't ask me to read it I can't see but go to the website and um that's all I have to report today thank you again Dominic you're in all right Miss
allance we've been talking all time of Miss Alliance we finalized our budget it's all here who we're giving our money to on March the 2nd is used to be at Miss Alliance dinner now it's the mayor's wellness it's at five o'clock at the high school and the children are
doing Anastasia to play uh March 20th what did I say oh March 20th I'm sorry and Mrs Fernandez has taken care of the reservations uh our finance committee has met and we have progress is that
right Eric good that's all I have to say thank you okay last night the planning board met and gave a additional approval for the pool company that's relocating down the street um they just have to figure out another room to store one of
their chemicals in that didn't really mix well with some of the other ones also last night the environmental commission report was presented on our progress for our cleanups at our brownfields um so that was approved and
filed and that's all I have to report relocation for the pool H you sound like it was relocation yeah they're moving into the electric plating uh next to the is that the LM LM pool yeah okay yeah so they're going to keep us yeah CU they don't get much traffic
now the Bigg the biggest thing that they were talking about is there's two types of chemicals that you have a corrosive and a uh Another Kind oxidizer oxidizer and there was a little bit of a language barrier there where you know they asked
oh you have all oxidizers and and the answer was yes but then it he gave us the data sheets and there was one corrosive which there's required distances that you need to have in between chemicals sure so that one of those chemicals has to go into another room now it's got to be 20 feet versus
four feet away um are they going to still have a retail portion of that business yes they will but for now they're obviously it's winter they just wanted to be able to move in uh bring the tools and move over to sign um that's why it's a conditional approval at the
moment okay thank you yep okay uh bills come a motion to approve the bills and forward them to the treasurer for payment so move second motion by Scara second by
mey any questions on the bills Eric I did have one question how do we have a bill on the list from 2023 which is when the purchase order was issued for the kitty pool spray features do they just not bill us and
expect us to pay us two years later for some reason they just didn't bill us oh wow there's no so we made interest on that uh got that money or do we have to pay interest a state law not if they don't bill us okay they UPS us they didn't
mail it it was December of 23 the purchase order was cut right okaye of the game roal I was hoping they'd forget to are grown up now almost got out of it abstain on the fire department yes on all others skara abstain on store
tractor yes on all others Sasso yes mey yes leosa yes Bennett yes Matthews yes motion carries public comment and open the meeting to the public anyone desires to be heard come on forward and state your name he looks familiar sorry I'm doing
this again um you were talking about affordable housing and I had an idea I don't know how useful it'll be but um with uh carbon offset you can offset whatever you're supposed to do in terms of your carbon taxes so is there an
affordable offset there's none um it's a good idea though I kind of like it but unfortunately nobody's been that forward thinking so but I like it all right thank you maybe you need to run for office can get you a
sidewalk anyone else wish to be heard uh Chief okay Council mayor administrator Michael attorney and everybody here just give you update what we've been through this year uh last year we answered the most calls I think fire departments ever
answered just under 800 calls for the year which is a lot of calls for a small little town we're already exceeding 100 calls for this year so things are kicking up even further again for 2025 two serious house fires within the past month today a third house fire in our
bordering town which is three houses involved and uh our department stayed active so with that it's it's always a pleasure to come here and thank you guys for what you do uh you have a difficult job just like we do we're firefighter but you basically provide us the equipment we need to do
when it comes to that stuff but you also to deal with the town and making a decision on a fire piece of fire equipment is a tough decision it's a lot of money uh it's a difficult decision unfortunately the truck does know it's getting replaced and it's starting to act up it's uh it's been one of those
but don't say it on behalf of the department we just really want to thank you guys for moving forward with it it's a it's a piece of equipment that has been utilized a lot more than ever before a rescue truck is active it's parlate from just being a rescue truck now to not only water ice fat what they call fast Steam on of
fire on a fire scam where they actually interact with firefighters to protect them they're actually doing firefighting as well uh we don't share our services too often but we work with whitef and Glenrock quite a bit and we provide assistance to Northland as needed but our truck doesn't really leave town a lot so it's not a mutual Aid benefit as
far as the concern maybe but the truck is busy enough in town so with that it's always Noble to say guys thank you you know you're looking on behalf of the First Responders of our town which has a pretty good core we still have 102 members on on board which
we have a strong Department we're holding our own I'd love to have 120 but that's you know it's a different day and I think actually volunteerism I everything is coming back so again on my behalf on I'm standing for the Department thank you guys for moving forward I know the mayor worked on it
administrator I'm sure Michael had his hands on some of this but you guys you provided the funding and uh blurry with the groundwork and stuff like that we really do appreciate it it means a lot more than you could ever imagine as far as a department standpoint as to going forward Jo how to doing truck two truck
truck is gonna have some significant repairs it's not a major repair but it's an expensive repair I mean $8,000 is a lot of money that's where we're at but what occurred the uh on the rear axles from coming out of the garage so much it's pulling a truck and basically the axles the shifting but it's it's not an
uncommon repair apparently dump trucks do it a lot unfortunately we're not a dump truck the weight of the apparatus is causing it to have issue Jensen Mitchell is that a service or no no they are able to keep it in service we originally thought we were going to be out the mechanic come out said no you can keep the truck in service this is no
issue with it it's not getting that you know severe he'll order the parts he'll do his best in lowering the price structure on it and he thinks he can but right now we're shooting high and would rather tell you it's a lot less than that but it'll be out for about three days and it'll be back in service we'll have coverage from North H and Glenrock at that point for a ladder and they'll
also have a small one of our smaller units just to run in case they have to do some minor stuff like a carbon oxide calling that so yeah the arrested trucks uh with the exception of rescue is starting to become again it's like the trucks no we've had this with engine one engine four it's like oh we're gonna we're going to replace you and it's like
oh okay we'll take care of that but it's it's a yeah it happens but trucks are busy I mean we're actually busy not even Mutual Aid anymore it's a lot more inner Town we're just it's a busy we're a busy little town it's just no doubt about it so and as I as I tell our residents when
they question me about this stuff it sounds like a lot of money until it's your house and then they understand you have to you look at our point of view it is a lot of money we know it's a lot of money and we have no control of that it's amazing between the last one we bought and this one corre I mean it's like double the pumper Tower truck was
less money figure yeah and it just they're they're skyrocketing almost 15% a year it's yeah uh it's I wish I could tell you something differently I don't think the administration now is even going to be able to control that it's just going to be perod of time until we stop buying them that you're going to see them drop and that's what's going to
happen and the problem is the nfba has a 20-year rule on it now they don't offer any financing to the barrel but they want your apparatus out and service in 20 years that's that's not logical with the amount of money you're spending on a piece of equipment just not so it's but so how's New York City get by with they
have very old vehicles in in there yeah New York City basically I don't know if it's an NPA state New Jersey is following NFPA through piia we're not regulated by them but they still here's what happens if something happens in the apparatus or a firefighter the first thing you'll see on the report is didn't follow nfba rules and then what happens
is it makes us liable for lawsuit it's a game that's played across the country and it's a nasty game we're a piia state so we could turn our tail and say we're not going to follow that until something happens to a firefighter or an apparatus and you guys will be able to legal action so week you know and it's uh I used to work for the
NFPA they make their living selling standards and if they don't update them and change something every 3 years that there's no need to buy new standards that's why you're not working there anymore pretty much pretty much yeah May and I have have parlayed across the
county actually New Jersey I've met with a lot of people in Jersey about that because it's kind of a pet peeve with the standards they're pushing down our throats it's going to collapse our volunteer services completely and guess what it's not only going to affect the volunteer it's going to affect the paids when you acquire another 400 hours of training for every
firefighter across the state there isn't a town New Jersey that's going to be able to afford that right we're trying to stay ahead of that but you're not going to and we fought back pretty hard and I think we're getting some some traction on I think they've listened and we'll see what happens but I think right now we're in a bad place I'm sure Chief
Manel would like to speak with you guys but again thank you guys for moving forward we appreciate it Chief i' just like to say a couple things first of all uh thank you for the fire on Goa Hill Road by saving the house I don't I don't think people realize what you did up there what what the what the uh
Department did I know there was a number of uh like you said from Rescue 5 I know they went they went in right away and U they they were able to save the house which was Monumental and I just want to say to everyone just thank you for the
services that you provide for our community there's moments in time that we look back especially as a chief of Department you look back and say could be done better I can't say we could have done better on R I can't say we could have done better on G Hill Road We rescued nine dogs three cats and a snake
all salvageable all survived from Ray Avenue in a very difficult condition couple people too right yeah yeah and GV Road was well involved before the fire department got there so it's I'm I don't want to say I'm surprised at it I know our members are are fantastic
but I'm I'm really proud of the fact they kept from getting inside that house when there's really nothing left to they attach garage to the house so and in a deck in a back so the members did everything they were asked to do and they did more so thank you very much you're welcome your response time is
very I I hear we all hear it your response time is excellent we try you guys work hard we thank you you're welcome thank you and councilman I'm sorry going a lost he was a good friend so oh thank you so much Joe I'm assistant chief Mano I'm just gonna keep it short I just want to thank
each and every one of you for allowing us to move forward with this truck um it's been a three years a long three years trying to make sure that we get the best truck for the town and for the department uh we're close close to being done we're just looking at the longevity of it and which company provides the
best longevity so I know our members are extremely ecstatic that we can move forward with this on behalf of the rescue company I really do appreciate it and once we're ready to go we'll let you know so thank you very much you're welcome thank you you're welcome Anthony thank you guys anyone else wish to be
heard seeing no one I uh hey entertain a motion to close the public portion of the meeting so Move Motion by Scara second by mey all in favor I okay motion carries close session pursuant to
njsa 104-113 the attorney general's for