i was telling um I was telling Bev and Debbie that the highlight of my day was going to see the um support people of the year so we did a a custodian a secretary a food service
and a parah and it was just so fun so who got them uh oh i don't have my cheat sheet um are we going to acknowledge him at the next meeting yes yes um I'm sorry no you're fine the
one for the district was uh the custodial woman at the high school who was Rachel did I get that right yes who was just so happy and she's awesome
she's phenomenal so we had uh four we did one from each group we had Rachel then we had Janelle Fastfender who does web SXI
uh Janet Roberts the Edison secretary and food service at Lori Patterson at Well then it went south oh with a off a civil rights report that
we have to do so Stephanie dropped everything and Oh anyway we'll get that straight but it was fun while it lasted i used to say that about the high school they could write a book i swear every
day good bad ups and downs oh you don't even need the remote i don't even know where it's I know you see He hit it on you on purpose look how hard that was to find right
right where Bren left should have just asked your mom she was ready one more second i said all night last night writing out everyone's softball schedules on my I'm like "Oh my gosh what day can I not go
what day does my dad have to go what which days are doubled?" And then they all get cancelled because of the weather and rescheduled right yeah I know today's weather you just couldn't predict it so
and it was supposed to be at East Point so I think we're good there they could have postponed it like an hour though right instead of like postponing to a later date they could have been like postpone to 4:45 instead it's going to be 10 degrees warmer
and the snow will be gone are they putting it up Genie okay i had to download it as a PDF they didn't have access to to that got it sorry guys christy we're putting up the therapy dog handbook
how's your Well can we start while they're working on that next week well I wanted to compare the policy to the I thought she was having it like right away we're all set well we got a lot of We got public comments and stuff before
we get to that that's enough got dark calling the special board of education workshop of Visa Park schools to order at 5:37
on what is it april 7th 2025 roll call eaton here becker here fortress present fox here le boys here
rati here hinton here approval of the agenda i move the board of education um accept the agenda as written support any discussion motion by Heidi support
by April any discussion on the agenda okay roll call please fortress yes yes becker yes fox yes boys yes yes
yes uh public comment anybody wishing to speak at public comment seeing no one we go on to new business therapy dog policy so the policy came up first somebody's waiting to be able to bring their dog and so the
handbook says we have a policy and we don't so um I handed out three policies that were people asked to work on however this one is pending to somebody wanting to do it so um and the rest of
the meeting will be about what we want to do about policy but since somebody's waiting I started with this dog one so I had him bring up the book this is the true and dog policy i gave everybody tonight and I gave it to everybody a couple weeks ago so I went
through it and all the yellow part is is already policy and it's in our handbook so we may want to just take take it out of the handbook because this is a policy so the policy is actually in the
handbook most of it okay so I thought we could kind of go through and see what you think um I'm assuming this would be page one maybe page two of the handbook
next page please i should have looked uh up there thank you oh my gosh I can't see that okay this first page says definitions and it's a whole long thing on definitions is it this page or the next okay the
definition here is it's in this this it's in the get confused this is the policy therapy dogs are not service animals under the American and Disabilities Act that's probably in that
definition that size is I can see that a lot better but hey maybe bigger yes that's much better oh is it the last sentence the ADA 31 okay can we do the next page yeah that would be helpful thank you Christie
that's very kind it's in there because I read it it could be in a different spot can we go let's see keep going until we get to because this actually could be handbook the purpose
of therapy dogs make a connection why you have a therapy dog that's not actually policy that's kind of handbook so you're saying that would remain in the handbook yes that would stay in the handbook the first one is the owner wants to bring a therapy dog on district
property and must submit a written request to the superintendent most of that is policy and it's in the handbook an owner wants to bring a therapy dog i guess we need to keep scrolling cuz the handbook is not in the
exact order of this true and policy mhm reading to dogs that's handbook also those are the good reasons to have a therapy dog so that's kind of like handbook explaining why you would want
to do it why you would want to have it their dogs make the connection at risk okay need to keep going request training so this is a partic But they have to make request so that
request part should be in the policy i should have had the the book right next to me okay it's coming but training and registration that's in here identification of disruption health and
safety training and certification the policy says the owner must submit any training certification information requested by the superintendent or designate any certification required by the district
must remain current at all times so part of that is in the policy so we could rewrite we could rewrite that a little bit um that one up there says training and certification the
handler and we the policy says owner that says the handler must submit any training certification so we could use that same thing but I think we need to take that out use that
language because we can't do word for word of what Truan says we have to create our own policy and Dr krooppy created that to say that so I think we just move that out of the handbook
or just we could leave it in the handbook but also have it in the policy i guess then we could just leave it all in the handbook and in the policy if we don't want to Well isn't anybody have anything i mean
policy what the board directs the district to do and the handbook is kind of like the procedure how to get there is that that's how I understand it to be is
that not the case the policy correct that's why that's policy because that is directing that you must remain current at all times and bring the certification that's policy directing that you must do that
so I think how then would be how they get the certification do they have to fax it in do they can they bring it with them do they have to whatever whatever mail it to us email it thanks Christie i have no idea i don't
know thanks Christie thank you do you want to give me some and I can be I'll just give myself a good half of it thank you this is easier thank you
i was going to say thank Thank you and to answer your question Debbie I don't believe you need to be that specific because it says insurance for employee owned therapy dogs the owner or handler must submit a copy not you know
fax a copy mail a copy bring a copy up give it to the principal i don't think you have to go in depth that Yeah i think submit a copy takes takes care of the you know you're going to need to submit a copy just my
opinion so I think that that is policy because you're if somebody wants to bring their dog they're going to look it up that says you must submit the certification information i don't think that's a
handbook thing anyways moving on must submit written request as superintendent that's on my highlight okay and then also must submit train um certification so there there should be two
certifications both the handler and the dog should both be certified is that how it works well if you're looking at uh therapy dog uh for through point B and then A individually
trained and certified by an approved therapy dog training organization and then C is managed by a handler who has been individually trained evaluated and registered with their therapy dog to provide animal assisted activities and animal assisted interactions on district property
that's in the handbook right that's on the throne i don't know if it's in the handbook oh that that's comes from that's in the true policy which one where's it at under page that's under the definition oh because you're right i think it should say the handler should
be certified because they go through the training with the Yeah I would think they would both need to have C some sort of certification so the second one um let's see request only wants to bring the therapy dot on district training and
certification we should add that beginning piece from is it in this paragraph the use of instructional where is it at uh underneath that section B therapy dogs
okay it would be A and C under that okay points A and C and then just move B on the next page to policy and add that to it training and
certification includes individually trained the handler and submitting the proof to the superintendent right yeah so certificate I think I might be a little bit unclear about what our objective is
here are we in order to have the are we writing the policy today trying to Okay are we replacing the handbook no okay so I don't I think that we're overthinking this a lot and that we can be really
really brief in the policy and then close close a brief policy that has a couple of these bullet points with you know the the superintendent will um further direct staff to follow
procedures in the Hazel Park Schools therapy dog handbook 2425 because if not we're I mean this the truth policy is good but it's really long it's 99% covered in our handbook um you know I think we take the top of this
to reference that there is the the definition of a therapy dog um make sure we state that it doesn't diminish any rights a person with a disability may have to be accompanied by a service animal um do those couple
quick bullet points about um certification of the dog certification of the handler um insurance sorry the the request the training and certification of both the
dog and the handler i don't think the handler specifically gets trained it just says it um I just don't want to limit anybody i don't think that a handler specifically gets trained it doesn't say a credential of a handler it just says that they should be trained to
properly care for the dog okay so I think it if you're taking your dog to therapy dog school you're also learning how to handle it that's getting to And I think it says in here specifically that that handler with the dog is not
like you can't it out for me right yep yeah and then I think the last like really important one is health and vaccination just to like tap into it in the policy-wise and then close it out by saying
um you know it is it's the responsibility of the superintendent or their designate to ensure that staff are following the therapy dog handbook i think that's because otherwise we're going to rewrite no I agree with you that maybe necessarily needs to be rewritten i think that a lot of this was
pulled from the policies we had in place at the time if I recall a lot of this was pulled from policies we had in place at the time and I think that really just stressing that the dog belongs to that specific person that is the specific person that will be with the dog while they're performing any of their duties
um so that if there is a training for the for the handler that you know there was one with the dog no you're right cuz as I'm rereading that bullet point C it says a handler who has been individually trained evaluated and registered with
their therapy they must So this true policy is very long and that's why I highlighted what is in yellow is policy so I figured the handbook would be cut in half half would be policy half would be handbook a lot of the handbook remains
It's pulling out the things where it's giving direction if you want to bring your dog here's the rules that you need to do so I thought it would be simple i would show you that what what is meant to be policy and the handbook would
remain pretty much the same except for 10 12 items coming out of there so does somebody want to write policy somebody want to look at it handbook the policies are right in there like our hand list that specific policies are printed right in there as
well um so I mean if you want to pull them out certainly that's you know the will of the board um but in our other handbooks we do specifically list those policies just right in there i mean this being a a document that's only
uh besides the appendices you know eight pages long I don't know that and having it all in one place I think too is is valuable we have to have a policy as a board of education the board of education writes a policy and
we're mandated to have a policy the handbook says see the policy that we do not have so that's how it came about because it says we have one and we don't have one yeah I think we all agree with you there yeah absolutely i'm just saying I wouldn't take it out i would just leave it all in the same document and then
just add the policies to the policy document okay this is a board discussion anybody else have anything to say do you want a policy or do you want to leave it in the book no we have to have a policy no like we agree with you of having a policy but if we left the book the way it is and
still did the policy like April said just like a short with a few bullet points and then have them revert back to the handbook like then everything is there instead of redoing two separate things so what bullet points we want that the
the dog and the h well the dog is certified the handler is the package deal um can I ask a question real quick to help unconfuse me so why can't we just make this handbook our policy
this handbook was developed by a committee of people i mean we did have a committee of people who who um work with therapy dogs I believe so for for instance the employee that's waiting to bring her dog she was a part of writing this whole thing originally so um so why can't we incorporate this handbook as
our policy i'm gonna make a motion should we no I don't agree with that i think it references the policy this is the how we need to tell the district on what the board wants via
policy this states to reference the policy we need to have a policy and the policy is going to have experts of this probably thing probably it depends on what the board wants to direct the
district to do so I'm not opposed to leaving the handbook as it is and pulling out the pieces that we want to reiterate our policy yeah I'm I agree with that yes and then maybe we just make sure that nothing in
the handbook contradicts our policy correct it would basically be what's in our handbook so hopefully it shouldn't you know yeah we just make sure we cover whatever these points are so the only one that's allowed to bring a therapy dog is a district employee no I don't believe that that is
what's in here the people who are allowed to bring therapy dogs are the people that uh submit all of the items listed in the handbook so students are allowed to bring therapy animals if they they submit everything in the handbook
those would be service that would be a service animal i think I don't know that students would be um trained to have a therapy dog with them in the in what we're what we're working with here mhm um so then the answer to my question
would be a yes the only one that's really allowed to have a therapy dog is staff employees well I wouldn't say necessarily staff i'm sure there's certainly people who are not employed by the district who could meet the qualifications of having a therapy dog you know that were perhaps visiting the district um I wouldn't say that they all
necessarily would have to be employed by the district um you know would there be any interest in you guys maybe starting a subcommittee for this and perhaps we could pull the employee who is um you know who was part of this in the beginning um
to specifically go over this i think um the nature of our policies is to make them a little bit more broad and then define them with your administrative guidelines and then your handbooks as well like you guys were talking about it's the board's decision that makes
policy how broad they are and how broad they're not board creates policy so so if we pick certain bullet points one being certificate what would be another bullet
point insurance updated on their vaccinations um do we want to say it can be a a district employer or non-district employer i think anybody can bring in their It does say in here a handler is an individual school district staff member
or volunteer who owns a therapy dog and who has been individually trained evaluated and registered with their dog that's on um That's in the handbook yeah it's on page four yeah mhm right about purpose and it it's also in the in the example from true
law it well it says if the therapies dog handler is a misty the therapy dog will not interfere with the employees primary job responsibilities so I'm looking at a policy currently um that is it's called therapy animal policy so
points for inclusion um but the board of education recognizes and then there's a brief paragraph about why a therapy dog would be in the building therapy animal um there is a reference to like we said
um not superseding ADA or infringing on any individual's rights to bring a service animal onto a school campus um and then there are specific bullet points for um certification certification and
training vaccination and veterinary requirements and it does list four specific vaccines um hold on I have to scroll um what are you reading from april
Redford by insurance yeah insurance was um liability insurance was the next um there's a single line about the building principal having discretion to ask for the animal to be removed from the
campus um and then the closing line which is very fancy um says the superintendent will further promulgate administrative administrative regulations consistent with this policy and then goes on to a document called
administrative regulations which very closely resembles so I have to assume is just different verbiage for a handbook so there so the administrative regulations are longer the specifics of the requirements the benefits of a
therapy dog um mentioning who can bring it it does say staff or volunteer um but specifies that the like this p sorry this administrative regulation does not supersede district policies for background checks or eye chats um I mean
it's who cleans up after the animal um how they request that it that the animal be allowed onto the campus so it's it seems to flow into again what they call administrative regulations but seems to
be what we have as a handbook and I I think it kind of checks both of those boxes for us because it dives in deeper so that we know that we're covered and there are you know rules and procedures for the staff to follow but does reference back to a
policy um and sort of like doesn't involve us recreating the wheel and having to decide what to take in and what to take out because there's something for it to reference so we've gone in four different directions in the past 20
minutes no not really well I mean that's the way I see it what what is our goal and what what are we going to did our goal is to write a policy to All right so how do we with the handbook who's going to write the policy how do we get started what's the
first paragraph so in the past I I'm just you know I don't know um we we did convene a committee to to work on this before and then they brought it to the board with recommendations for the board that's how
things have been done before um if that's something that you would like I'm certainly can pull together a committee of um interested folks and if we want some board members on that as well um we can happily you know pull that together to get that done beth can we appoint
somebody to do a draft and then bring it to the next board meeting to discuss and tweak it would you do a draft with Nate would you do a draft with Heidi yeah absolutely sure would that help you Bab yes
perfect yeah I think that's what we needed something like that okay I'll email this to you thank you okay cuz we got to keep going on correct all right all right Nate and Heidi will
work on it and we got questions you can call anybody on the board sounds good thank you thank you and bring it back to the committee of the whole next week yes is that the goal yes are you good with that yes thank Thank you thank you Karen thank
you Heidi thank you Nate the next thing on this agenda is policy discussion so you have the prices for the three companies i can tell you this is uh Clark Hill is who we have currently
that I was not in support of to begin with so I could tell you I have spent hours and hours and months and months going over this this is what I this is what I have
okay in our bylaws we do not have purpose we do not have boundaries we do not have the address of the district we do not have board powers in our bylaws we do not have the philosophy administrator guidelines judicial
direction electoral process qualifications recall orientation public expression discrimination harassment motions preciding officer change of
regular meetings how to do that we do not have consent agenda in our bylaws use of electronical mail use of social media legal council association membership and school conferences are no longer in the
bylaws in the here's the bylaws i have all the missing things written on each page i have every law written that's not written in the Clark Hill it says you have to follow the law but it does not give you the number of the law in the
policies we are missing how to rec that recording meetings are okay drones concussions service animals do not resuscitate latch key summer school alternative school shared time tuition
students early graduation hazing motor vehicles bikes credit from non-public schools Student activity fund online fundraising naming of a school safety and security surveillance recognition flags
attendance at public events opioids administration non-renewal employment of professional staff and AI is brand new that Clark Hill has not sent us any update to do an AI policy so
I took truin policies and I did the index so everything that's highlighted in yellow we have and true and has everything not highlighted we do
not have do we have a copy of this or we're Miss Kes is there a reason you need to speak uh yeah I was just going to say that there were some updated policies given by Clark Hill and AI was specifically in there i did read through them today didn't come here okay didn't come to the
board wanted to let you know that anyways I went through everything yellow we have and Truan has everything that's not highlighted truan has or we do not have anyway you can look at it there's tons of stuff that we don't have that
they have i just read the list that Clark Hill does not include clark Hill went from I don't know Niola went from 150 pages we went down to 60 in Clark Hill so that can give you
indication a lot of policy went into administrative guidelines which shortened our policies but it's still we're still missing all of those policies so we can stay with Clark Hill and we
can build them to what we want because we can create policy or we can go with one of those companies and we can switch so that's the discussion if you want to spend the money or if you want to work on it um when Gross Point took
on Clark Hill it took them eight months to do their policy correctly it took us 15 minutes to vote on policy and that was it so it takes longer than 15 minutes when it took somebody 8
months so if you're willing to put in the work if you want to meet once a week or for the next five or six months and we update Clark Hill we can do that i definitely think that there's a ton of work that needs to be done on policy have said it from the very beginning i
believe I even voted no for Clark Hill i don't I didn't care for their policies personally um the policies are what we govern the school to do as a board um it's one of our main it's probably our
main focus as a board and to adopt Clark Hill and have it approved within one meeting I just I found was absurd or two meetings cuz you do the first and then the second um I liked when we went um to a couple
conferences i've had conversations with Truan i like Truan policy a lot of districts in Oakland County use Truin i think that we need more guidance than what Clark Hill is giving us but is Clark Hill not going to give us
if we talk to them and say we want more i mean instead of spending $19,000 or $15,000 well it says annual updates i guess my next question is how many annual updates have we gotten from Clark Hill as zero that I know of we adopted them last February of 2024 and I've not
seen any updates i do believe their intent is to send an annual update there was an update that was I believe January 17th so they're coming we're we as a board are not getting them
so they were sent January 17th and now we're on April 7th and the board has seen nothing yet there are yet there are policies so I think the the problem was that they were sent to Dr krooppy and she was not able to bring them
forward and so that's where the lag the lag happened so I would surmise that each January Clark Hill would provide an update i'm just I think isn't it by annual don't they do it in January and July or
January and June or It says the annual updates yes oh the only did it twice a year that's where I got that from okay um it does annual dates but I don't think it's anything if we were to ask
them hey do you can you do it in January and June if there is more updates i mean I don't want to wait once a year if there is updates right right um so and this is because I don't know are they supposed to come and sit with us
and go through the policies when they do this or are they supposed to just say "Here they are do it yourself." Or is it whatever we request when Niola did it they came and sat with us I don't know for a couple months and then we just did it on our
own and they didn't come anymore i think it's our choice if we wanted them to is there a cost difference i don't think so cuz I mean in having somebody physically come and walk through them or Okay I would think maybe
I think it would be part of the I mean I can't imagine they would just come and take their time for free but that would what that cost was would would it be part of the 4,000 or the 2750 depending on which company we went with for free if we I don't know that Clark Hill would
come for free because they're giving us the policy for free but would they give us their time too i don't know that did we ever get that in writing that they're giving us to it for free i asked for it because nothing's for free no lawyer is going to do anything for free i we have
not we've not received a bill for that and the way um some some boards approach this is as you know the the policies are broken up into sections there's a curriculum instruction a personnel a
finance and so groups um a small group or committee of the board would work on a certain update and then you know for example if you were to um adopt trune you might in small groups work on those
different sections and bring proposed changes back to the whole board and you all would work on different subcommittees of that that's one way to do it you know I wasn't looking for a decision tonight i thought
maybe a few people would look into Miller Johnson a few would look at Truan i'm not pushing Truan i just h I've been looking at that for probably since conference miller Johnson is pretty cool but it's more money if you look under
certain topics it will have the the law in blue so they're not long it doesn't take a lot of paper because it will say here revised school code 38012000 and you just click on the blue and you get the law immediately which is
kind of cool um because if it's printed on here you're going to have to type it in your computer and Google it to get it if you go Miller Johnson you're going to click on blue it's going to take you right to what the law says isn't that something we can do though adding a link to it instead of spending so much money
i don't you know the Clark Hill I don't like them they really need to be worked on but I'm not going to if that's what the board desires we'll work on them i I'm not fond of $19,000 for Miller Johnson but it's I
thought you know everybody can take a look at it because tonight's not for the decision it's moreformational i mean the other one's 15250 it's not much of a difference yeah but that is I mean to me it's money well spent that's how the
board governs the district yeah it's like our number two job is to put the rules for how the district functions right and so when these are so weak even when we don't follow them you have chaos because people don't have
direction of how they're supposed to handle things but is this something we can talk to Clark Hill about and say we would like more and see if they how much more can you recharge us what's that money cost if we were to reach out to them since right now it is zero costing
us nothing and say we would like more can you work with us as opposed to spending 19 or $15,000 and see what they say before yeah can you reach out just a thought no that's a good suggestion i think I like that too it's I think that's a real good suggestion cuz maybe
we wouldn't have to work on them a couple days a week after 6 months maybe they'd come and help help us add to it rewrite them and make sure that they're what we want them to be all right okay i like that could you check Dr cost
and see if they um Well you're you can call too can't you since they're board policies yeah you could okay thank you no that's a good idea um just for clarification for me so we're calling and asking if they're going to do that for free or if they're going to
or if they're able if it's free with the charges i don't know when Gross Point did it maybe they came and helped Girls Point cuz they worked on it for eight months maybe they assisted them when when they uh came you know when they switched over do you know what districts
use um the Johnson what was that ID do you know what districts use Miller Johnson i don't have it here but I do a lot of districts are getting away from Neiola because it's long and most of them are going to Truan more than Miller Johnson but I
know uh Rochester has Miller Johnson and Oak Park has Miller Johnson traverse City has Truan um I know I have done some work on this before Eddie about who had them in Oakland County if you're interested I could share the results I had found before
okay that'd be great thank you Christie and can we get the policies that they did send to Dr krooy yeah those the ones that we have the ones we haven't seen yet yeah whatever the updates are is there any way we
could Can you Yeah get those sent to us you'll have them tomorrow okay good all right public comments anybody out anything we're good we're going to call Clark Hill we're going to do the dog policy we're going to come back
committee in the hall we're going to get um updates it would be I mean before we vote it would be nice to have I I was hoping that the links that were in board books sort of led to some of the things that were missing or some of the things that we're
referencing because I don't a lot of that pops out at me as something that we had just spent a bunch of a bunch of time going back and forth on in the protocols um so I mean to hear that we don't have something surprises me because we just sort of went through
that um it prior to voting I would like to be able to make an informed decision outside of just links to other school districts i clicking on these Clark Hill leads to Hazel Park board policies
miller Johnson leads to their own website with an advertisement and truins leads to a school in Brooklyn Brooklyn Michigan at least um but it doesn't it doesn't really give us much to go on as far as looking into it outside of
cost um I would also if if discussions have been had with Truan or we know what they can provide us that would also be really nice to know i mean way back in January when we approved the retainer to Truan we did so
under the premise that it was because they were going to be doing our policies we sense no that didn't happen um and then at our last meeting we also discussed keeping district council so that he could go through policies with us and that's an option that's not
presented here um so having like just more of a robust these are the selections that we have to choose from um and then a benefit to them outside of just the cost you know if we have to spend $15,000 on doing this we have to
spend $15,000 on doing this but sort of a justification of that would be I think helpful for us and helpful for our community who is going to see us pay an additional large sum of money
towards an attorney um and I mean I hate to laugh when I say it but it's it's getting to be like every meeting we're just pouring more and more money into legal fees um it it would be nice to just have actual information um
to go on before making the decision is that what you It would be helpful i mean if we can get that scanned into board books I mean just so that we're all referencing the same thing and we know what's missing and we know what we need to work towards so Bev how does it work that there's the bylaws which the board
follows correct yes and then there's board policy which the board develops for the district to follow and then there's board procedures which are the how we're going to do the board
policies right okay i just want to make sure that everybody clearly understands the definition of each three the three how do you think this is going to cost attorney money i mean these are literally attorney firms that we're paying she's
saying that just that Truan is an attorney that Yeah clark Hill Miller Johnson and Fuent are all propert so so it's not necessarily attorney fees but it's to an attorney fee oh I'm thinking that you think they have to be here and they're going to get paid to be here no no no this is money that we're
putting into them and how does this work differ from the work of district council who we discussed at our last meeting i the sort of the justification of keeping that position at almost $200,000 a year was that district
council could set forth or work on policies with us so that I mean it would be nice to have sort of a line of demarcation of what would that position be handling versus the policy package that we would be purchasing and how would those two
feed into each other yeah that makes sense what's a $200,000 Well at our last meeting we discussed bringing forward to vote retaining the position of district council and during
that discussion it was mentioned that that person whether it be the person that is the incumbent or whether or not we just keep the position of district council that that that position would be working on policy and would put forth
board policy and that is that's a salaried position a high salaried position with benefits that we would be paying and would they be helping us to interpret the policy package would they be helping us write the policy package would they be um you know applying and
holding the district accountable to it there's where where where where is that line of we're paying for this but it's feeding into this and how are those two those things working together so how would the service work with that
position or does one replace the other I guess is the question i don't think the district council position has even uh it was just like um part of the mix but not we're still waiting for the contract to
see does he still have a year left does he you know do do we get uh uh messed up if he does have a year left do we you know do we have to give him a job or we just you know get rid of his position we that that was the discussion
before right and it was mentioned at the last meeting that we would have we haven't even we haven't even gotten the the contract has not been sent to us so it doesn't it it's difficult to make both of those decisions without understanding how they overlap i mean they're they're both really costly so
we're not making that decision today right i don't I don't think we're making either of those decisions today but I don't think we have enough information about either of them to really move forward without understanding where this intersection is and I think that's why she's going to call Clark Hill and Wise
and then we need to compare it to the in in console person and Chrissy's going to send us the list of uh other people that they've used or you know other people have used um I I don't think that we're at
what you're saying right now i think we're going to be but not right this minute but I do we have clarification on whether or not the the district council is not an academic administrator correct per no per the contract so the deadline
deadline is a non-issue his contract his contract runs through next year so through 2026 so we have to look at Clark Hill and we have to look at him and see how we can
put him together for the most cost effective situation that we can do so any anybody else anything just no go ahead what april said that if we could
get where what these lapses are that you highlighted just so I know what how what time oh I'll type it up and how whatever however you want to do well I'll type it up and I'll send it out to everybody okay i spent hours I have probably taken a year on this i am not joking you i
start at 7:30 in the morning because I don't want to be wrong and I go back and I read it and it's like did I miss that policy is it really not in here you know what i'm retired i don't have little kids at home bless you i can
spend I can spend time and I do because I sit up here i take this very seriously and people don't think I do but I do so anybody have anything because I have something when I came on board when I
was elected Superintendent Msinger gave me this open meetings book when you got on the board this is the laws i use it all the time you can see it's ripping it's highlighted i cut I when I I want to know what I'm talking about so I bought
everybody an open meetings law book i bought them in the district did not buy them because I think it's a gift that you need um thank you thank you another book I recommend is $50 how to be a better school board
member book it's 50 bucks i didn't buy those for everybody why not but it is very very She said she's retired heidi cut her bra pages are tore out the cover is tore off um
so thank you i hope you enjoy those um it is loaded with how school districts the the laws that we seven are supposed to follow when we're giving direction so please enjoy it anybody
have any else public comment maybe public comment just don't forget about spring sports they're all starting that's it tons of games this year new season it didn't feel like spring today no new season maybe for a minute it did
yeah for a minute right now maybe ajourn motion to motion everybody said unless we skipped over the public but I don't know if he wanted to speak okay head shaking no