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Part 1 (Video ID: dYpEyhvim3A):
- 00:12:57: Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance, Moment of Silence
- 00:14:23: Presentation: Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports Overview
- 00:22:38: Public Comment: Concerns about PBIS Implementation and Effectiveness
- 00:26:45: Public Comment: Defending PBIS and the Need for Positive Reinforcement
- 00:30:15: Consent Agenda: Removal of DD & Explanation of Item Q
- 00:35:32: Action Item 5A: Personnel Allocation Request for Behavior Techs
- 00:45:48: Action Item 5B: Request for an ESC Staffing Specialist
- 00:50:34: Action Item 5C: Full-Time Medicare Payroll Analyst Request
- 00:52:29: Action Item 5D: Athletic Fee Proposal Discussion and Amendment
- 01:04:43: Action Item 5E: Personnel Recommendation (FIMLA) Approval
- 01:05:34: Action Item 5F: Summer Food Service Program Schedule Approval
- 01:09:35: Public Comment: Addressing Loopholes Needed For Summer Food Program
- 01:17:56: Action Item 5G: Owner's Representative for High School Project
- 01:23:44: Old Business: New High School Construction Updates
- 01:34:23: Attorney Updates: Reviewing Agreements & Contract Finalizations
- 01:34:56: Board Member Business: Self-Insured Pool Success, Clinic Discussion


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the order. If you would please rise as we do the invocation in the pledge. >> Our father in heaven will be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. Forgive us our

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trespasses as we forgive those trespass against us. those kingdom power to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all before we have a seat tonight I would ask you to stand with me in a moment of silence for Miss Joyce Miller Miss Joyce Miller worked for us in the Henry County Food Services Department from 1991 and

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she retired in 2009. Please join me in a moment of silence. Thank you very much. All right. Good evening everyone. Mr. Superintendent, looks like we have a presentation this evening. >> Yes, Mr. Chairman, this evening we are

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um blessed to have the teachers of our um student services department and um they're based on a previous board request I believe um they have put together some overview of some MTSS and PBIS services that we do for our

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students. And so if you have the presentation or you can follow along there. And so with that in mind, I'll turn it over to Miss White and Miss Anson. >> All right, I'm going to set my timer right now. Okay, >> so um we're talking about positive

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behavior interventions and supports. And it's not a program. A lot of times it's thought of as a strat like one strategy or or a program, but it it integrates many different strategies. It is part of the MTSS process. of that multi-tered

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system of supports and it uses data to determine effectiveness of interventions to change behavior and that's our goal is to focus on what behaviors we can change. It does utilize evidence-based practices and it's accessible to all of our students. So under that MTSS

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umbrella, we have RTI, which is response to intervention, which focuses on academic interventions for students who are not um on grade level content and needing extra support. But when we talk about uh the behavioral side or social emotional learning, we're looking at

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positive behavior interventions and supports and that falls under that same framework of MTSS. So we do use that three- tiered approach. Again, you'll see on the left side academic, but on the right side our behavioral systems, the universal is tier one. And that is

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where we're looking at all schoolwide expectations um for behavior. what we are expecting students to do in a day-to-day from location to location on a school campus including in their classroom. What that looks like in classroom management, how teachers are

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uh supporting appropriate behaviors in the classroom classroom and across school relationships, building rapport with students, teaching um expectations and routines, practicing those um teaching social skills, um looking at

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schoolwide recognition. And so at a lot of our schools, they'll have uh parties and celebrations and you can access these things based on your positive behaviors. So um each school will talk about um their action plans and I'll give you some ideas of what that looks

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like. But this universal tier is for everyone. Okay. We do have students with behavioral, social, emotional challenges that need more targeted intervention and that's tier two. And that is where they might be receiving small groupoup instruction in these areas of social skills, check-in, checkout, mentoring.

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Um there may be increased parent involvement where we're asking more parent support in in helping us with those initiatives for student behavior and again making database decisions and monitoring data through our um interventions. And then the top tier, tier three, is where we're looking at

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students who have significant behavior challenges that might need a functional behavior assessment, a behavior intervention plan, and a very individualized system of reinforcement. We do have PBIS teams on campuses that consist of teachers, administrators,

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counselors, different grade levels, um, office staff included, sometimes custodial staff is on some of our teams at some of our schools. They develop a plan for their school that is um specific to the needs of that school. They look at what those schoolwide

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expectations need to be and they develop goals that they want to target for increasing student appropriate behavior. So most of our schools are looking at attendance uh referrals uh reducing those referrals and a GPA that's uh on track for graduation. Right? That's our

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goal. um specific interventions that they may want to put in place such as reinforcement systems. Each school does have a behavior flowchart for accountability that talks about how they manage behaviors. What is a classroom managed behavior versus what is an office managed behavior? And I'll show

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you examples of those to the the Tiger Standard. That's the CHS. This year they focused on attendance 90% no out of school suspensions, no more than two referrals, and a minimum of 2.0 O GPA and they made it tied to going to

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homecoming, going to prom, being able to attend grad bash and some other privileges like that throughout the year. Um at each school we um the school set schoolwide expectations. These are a few examples of um secondary label Middle School, Cloon High School, and then um

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Us with their acronyms. They're supposed to be something that is easy for students and staff to know, say, and easily follow the expectations. And we do as a district team go through and do a walkthrough each year with those schools. Every school we interview

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students and staff members to see if they're able to say those expectations, tell us how they're connected to any rewards or incentives that they have um and just get a vibe for how it's going at the school level. Those um school level teams meet and review and collect data as well, which one I was speaking

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about previously. They do train their staff on these expectations as they come in each school year. They also uh expect the staff then to train on these concepts every day in their classrooms. You'll see these posters in their rooms. They're talking about these expected behaviors. If they need to redirect the

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behavior, they're referring to those. That's part of that teaching component that they use. And then also parents. So at LMS, they do a big sixth graders coming in parent meeting. They talk about their PBIS initiatives because we want to make sure parents are on board as well. These are just examples of

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those u expectations as they change at uees. What does it look like in the classroom versus the bus versus recess versus cafeteria? This is an example of our classroom managed behaviors versus administrator managed behaviors. So each school has a flowchart. helps teachers understand

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these are things that I should be doing and redirecting and working with this student in my classroom versus when do I send a student out to the office for a different um consequence or a redirection. There are also counselor managed behaviors at UES. They also have

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the to-do things and restorative practices and they provide re uh resources for their teachers and links of different activities and things they can do. This is an example of uh LMS and the flowchart that they use for behavior redirection. Again, what is teacher

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managed on the left column versus what is something that goes to the office level? What are the action steps you should do and what are the consequences that should be in place for that? So, each of the school teams that we spoke about, they meet um month they're meeting monthly and then they meet with

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us as well as a district level team. we come together and plan, review their plans um throughout the year. And then we are super excited because this past year we had two gold level um schools, East Side and LMS. And as you can see that means that they have to turn in three different types of data at the end

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of the year um to the PBIS project. They um their tier one fidelity was in place, low discipline rates, no significantly disproportionate discipline data and sustained tier one implementation outcomes for 2 years. So that means they're really working on those solid

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systems. And our very last slide, Mr. Swindle, focuses on data review and decision- making. And if you you this is over the past five years, um looking at the graph on the left is Up the Grove Elementary and on the right is Label Middle School. And when we um really

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started to really hone in and focus on our school teams and their action plans and having them use the data to write their plans, what are we going to target? How are we going to target that? What's working? what's not working and what do we change? You can see we've had a drastic decrease and this is just in our referral data um and which is a goal

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at both of those schools. That's all I have for you. >> I have 47 seconds. >> Are I Are there any questions? >> I I do have some questions. I have some comments. Um so

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after the comments that I made that um inspired this presentation today, I had people reach out to me and um I appreciate folks who reach out to me to share their perspective and tell me what I need to hear, not necessarily what I

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want to hear. Um, and and so you know there I feel like there is push back in it and like when I I look push back on like what I'm hearing here it all looks it all looks good but how does it actually like play out in the in in in

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the daytoday and what you're hearing time and time again like I'm looking at the vacancies of of um staff. We're looking at a a statewide and nationwide teacher shortage. And what they say every single time is behaviors

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every single time. And so, you know, I try to look at this and say, is this something? Is this a system? Is this something that I would want to have to work and function under? And I promise you that little LMS thing that if you brought that to me, I'd be like, I'm not babysitting your kid if you take your

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flowchart home. Like, I'm not doing this. And um and I feel like this is just another one of the programs that we have out there to create a data set. And I don't know if the data is actually

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legitimate. And I'm and what I'm going to say here is some of the things that I've heard is that people are using paper referrals to not log them into focus. There is a consult versus a referral. And at elementary level, they do use a consult process. Those are documented as

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well. Um what is con what they consider a consult versus a referral and we have a lot of conversations around that. I I go to the elementary principal meetings and we talk through what that looks like. Um but they are there are they are

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documented. It's just documented differently. I just I feel sorry for teachers who have to work under the these discipline flowcharts because if you cuss me out, it's over. Like we don't

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talk to each other that way in here and like I sure wouldn't be listening to that from a child and the disruption and I saw I hate to like reference social media but I saw the best Facebook reel and I mean it resonated so deeply with me. It was a teacher who was talking

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about um protecting the learning environment and they said I know that everybody agrees that the importance of the learning environment without disruptive students and that without disruptions especially when standardized tests come around because when those

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kids um start cutting up or disruptive in that that classroom, they'll snatch those kids out to protect that testing and learning environment of the the other students when we're testing. But we're not protecting that environment in that same manner leading up to the

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instruction that to the testing. And I just I mean that resonate it it's it's what we're hearing. It's I'm not trying to be ugly or or combative or but like we're looking at a crisis out here with people who don't want to come and teach and it has tremendous amount to do

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with the behavior. And so I mean I I appreciate um you know you take the time to put this all together. It's all good information, but you know, when I'm looking at the overall data, not just Henry, I'm not picking on Henry County. Like, I've got

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I'll I'll beef with PBIS across the whole state. Like, I got it for all 67 counties. Um, but I I don't know if it's like serving our kids well. Like, when we're talking about recognition, you you know, building, you know, we have to do all this recognition. When we get out here in the real world, you don't get

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recognition. like you you're there's an expectation of you and you either do it or you don't have a job or you end up in jail or and I don't know if we're like we're what we're doing right now is setting up our kids for future success. That's just my humble opinion.

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>> Can I can I add a little bit to that? >> Yes, please. >> So, so I like to think that it's a combination thereof. Um the the the the positive behavior and interventions are a needed thing. Um, unfortunately, a lot of kids do not get any kind of positive reinforcement at home or a carrot to

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behave or do good in grades or whatever that may be. And that does serve some of these kids very well for motivation reasons. The other part about that is remember that one of the caveats to me being able to stay where I am is I'm not going to do it if I'm having teachers getting cussed out. We're not going to

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put up with that behavior in this school system. A bus driver, a teacher, admin, um, we we just don't do that. And so there's a combination thereof. There's a lot of positive things, but we also don't tolerate that behavior. I've got four unforgivables and and that every principal knows and I've told them very

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well that you better not let a sit teacher sit there and get cussed out and that student gets sent back to class after they've had time to cool off, you know, or think about it or whatever. We don't do that. Um, we're not perfect. Uh, kids by nature have unde underdeveloped brains that make

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irrational decisions and thoughts and say things they shouldn't, right? And so we deal with that. But uh I I have to believe, you know, that even though there are one-offs and sometimes it may happen, that our teams are very good at dealing with it and protecting our learning and protecting our teachers

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with regard to not letting that happen. In fact, uh just recently we had had a teacher that had been in New York, went to Lee County for six or eight years, come to Henry, and decided they were going to retire. No, I'm going to work one more year, and they're at Lavel Middle School now. And he said, "I had forgotten that it could be fun to teach again in an environment with teenagers,

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especially middle schoolers." And so I have to think that what we're doing, you know, again, I don't think we're perfect at anything we do and it and it could use improvement, but I think that we have a pretty dog on good environment and a good hodgepodge of positive rewards as well as the hammer when it's needed. >> Yeah. >> Well, like right here in this

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presentation, it says a classroom managed behavior is inappropriate language, name calling, insults, use of vulgar and mean language. Like this is what we're telling our teachers. And if you know just kind of like when you are in administration and you get a resume

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and that and you're looking at that like that's that's what's in writing that your contracts in writing like this is in writing and when you're looking at this I'm like absolutely not like I will go find another profession to engage in >> well and there's a lot of science but I mean I could present for 20 hours but I only have that

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>> um because it's based on the science of applied behavior analysis and it is human behavior and how it's shaped and that is through reinforcement and through punishment and those two things don't work alone. They work together. And so I could go on and on and I will not. But um but it is based on that

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science. It's not just about feelings or what we you know it really is based on making interventions that are evidence-based and based on that science and using the data to support change. And we we do look at data to make those decisions. We also have a lot of new

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teachers that are not teacher trained, right? they didn't go through that their business degree or and the structure of this tier one is teaching them how to do classroom management. They don't have those basic skills of the hires up until this year at least, >> right?

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>> Y >> yes. >> Yeah. Thank you, Miss White. Any further questions? >> Thank you. >> All right, we will move on to citizen comment. Mr. Superintendent, do we have any comments? >> Have no time. See no citizen comments.

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We'll move on to the consent agenda. Is there anything in the consent agenda that any board member would like to pull? >> I have uh we are going to pull DD it will pull and >> I'm sorry.

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>> Yes. Yes. Item DD architectural grace design contract. We will bring that back to you next month. >> Okay. the other one. If y'all don't have any others, I've got one other that I don't need to pull, but I just want to explain a little bit, but I'll wait and see if anybody has anything else to pull.

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Anyone have anything they would like to pull? >> No. All right. What would you like? >> The other one was item Q. Um, and item Q is the fleet um risk sharing for Hendry County School District. Um when we when we decided to go into the self-insured

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fleet program, the the path that we voted on and agreed to all along was to go into the self-insured and then ultimately enter risk sharing. Um that was 2 years and 4 months ago that we did that 2 years and 5 months ago that we decided to do that. in the two years that we've been in fleet on a singularly

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self-insured plan um has been incredibly great for our school district and for our business um and for our ability to serve our uh our employees. Um it was uh such a great uh experience and our district performed so well that we are

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entering into the risk sharing pool now. Um we are going to be one of the four inaugural districts that's going to enter rich sharing for Henry for Florida and it's going to be with Charlotte um Bvard and

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Henry Charlotte Bvard and Pulk County. We're going to be the four um and we will be uh fully risk sharing um by by summertime which would be that end of June era. And the way to think about it is right now we've got around

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700 to 750 souls or so in our insurance. We're going to have north of 20,000. We're going to be in a pool with north of 20,000 uh people. So what happens is is uh equate it to to a small kiddie pool and you throw a rock in it, it makes a splash. You throw that same rock

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into an ocean, you don't even notice the splash. And so um right now uh another way to think about it numerically, we have four people today. four people. Let let that sink in with you. Four folks that work for Henry County School District call

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deres 52% of our insurance expenses. That's a lot. And so we're going to now when we spread those four people out amongst 20,000 others, then what's going to happen rather than two or three of them having really high cost month and costing us a lot of money and then it'll

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come back normal and then it won't be so bad. We have a lot of peaks and valleys because of between four and eight people every year. What'll happen is when you're spread amongst a lot of people, that's more of a flatline. You have very little movement from month to month to month. So entering risk sharing adds

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stability to what we're paying in health insurance for our school district. And so this is going to be another phenomenal opportunity for us to stabilize and maintain and have a very reliable expense with our with our health insurance. and then in return um allow us to do some other things that's

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going to be very beneficial for our employees as well which I'll come back and talk to you at the end of the meeting about. So I just want to make sure you knew that's what that was. We agreed to do this 2 and 1/2 years ago. I'm just letting you know that we're officially into the risk sharing one of the inaugural districts to be doing

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that. And I've um I was asked to be on the board for the Florida risk sharing pool and I've got to go to Nashville uh Tennessee to a to the first inaugural risk sharing meeting. um that's going to take place in in middle middle of June. So I'll be representing Hendry County in the state of Florida there on our

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behalf. So just kind of giving youall update on that. >> Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. So the only thing that uh and I spoke with Mr. Don and Mr. Swindle already about it

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briefly. Um I would like for you guys to give us an update. uh had a question about the vehicle, the Suburban that LHS a department is purchasing. Um I'd just like to get a little clarification on that. It was $2,000 difference on the

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one that they're recommending versus the cheapest one. I just kind of curious about why. Uh I mean, I'm not bugging that they need to be. We'll just like make sure that we get that clarity to >> I'm not I'm 99% clear. I'm 99% confident that the reason was was the availability

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that the uh the one that was at I believe Gilbert is available today and the other one was going to be north of 6 months before before it could be purchased. So >> they decided to go ahead and get the one that was available. But I will clarify that. >> Yeah, you will clarify that. That's that's the only thing I had like you want to make sure we get that clarified. >> Okay.

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>> Appreciate that. So hearing nobody else that had anything they want to move, Mr. Superintendent, do we have your recommendation on the consent agenda, sir? >> Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, I recommend approval of the consent agenda as presented minus item DD. >> So move second. >> Motion by Mr. Sam, second by M. Nelson.

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Do we have any other discussion? >> Hearing no further discussion, all in favor say I. >> I. >> All opposed. Motion carries my work right there. >> That was it was

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all right. We'll move on to action. Item 5A personnel allocation request. Mr. Schumer. >> Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, um to give you a little bit of context, uh in a lot of this is information that we

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just have rough we have a hard time digesting. Whatever CO did to uh the the psyche of humans in our country and parenting, we don't know. um the importance of coming to school and to a brick and mortar school has has definitely taken you know a sharp

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decline even for students that are in school is really the ones I'm referring to and then um and so for whatever reason behavior behaviors of students over the last 5 years has just gotten um uh to a different level than we've ever

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seen and I'm talking more spo more specific about uh littles and not that it's not all the way across the board but the littles come to us and often times to coin Mrs. White's term in a feral condition. And so we are restructuring where where

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a said teacher um and the administrators have to spend a lot of time on just a handful of kids just because of their behaviors and and lack of um behavioral systems, you know, that they've come to us. Um we're having to put some behavior texts in place. And so Miss White has restructured some of her department to

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um add behavior text. I believe it's going to be one on every campus, right? >> We will have a total of 10. And um the focus will be the elementary the prek elementary middle and then supporting high schools. We don't have those extreme things. >> Okay. Got it. So the purpose of this is

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to add layers of support so that uh those students get support they need in the way they need it and the administrators of the school can administrate the school rather than spending hours a day, you know, having to deal with behavioral uh issues, tantrums or whatever that may be. So unless you have any questions about

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that, I recommend approval of action item 5A. So move. >> Second. Motion by Mr. Nelson, second by Reverend Brown. Yes. Do we have any discussion? >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. Um, thank you for acknowledging the the

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behavior challenges that our teachers are facing in our classrooms every day. Um secondly, is this going to be a require any additional income or any additional funding or is this going to

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be like neutral? >> She's using grant money. >> Well, it's from where we had some um decrease in our uh classroom sizes for prek. We've reduced those and though we have the funding there, so it's from the grants that were funding those sources.

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It's relative. It's a cost neutral if that's what you mean. >> Okay. So, I know that one of the things I've learned over the years is any kind of um money that we spend out of general funds into ESC, you don't get to walk that back.

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>> Correct. >> And so that's none of this is coming from additional general funds for general. >> Okay. But >> serving stay the same. >> Serving the same. Okay. No. All right.

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>> There's no decrease to the funding. >> Okay. >> One more question. >> So, will these be interventions? You know, we have tiered programs. Are these people that we are they going to be identified as interventionalists sort of? >> So, yeah, we have that functioning now.

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We have five RBTs and so they are responding a lot to crisis intervention situations. Um, sometimes they are providing direct therapy services for early childhood for our students who can't follow simple onestep directions, have extreme behaviors that they're just

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learning how to be in a classroom or be at school. Um, so they they function in different ways. Sometimes it's skill acquisition and teaching and training some of those new uh learning behaviors. But a lot of their responding is supporting in classrooms removing

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students sometimes who are following they're following a virtual behavior assessment behavior intervention plan protocols. And so they're there to help implement that and help assist the staff in in uh crisis intervention with students with significant behaviors.

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So if a student is taken out of the classroom, it that person goes with them. Yes. >> To like >> sometimes a sensory room to like do some deescalation and things like that. Um sometimes it's to uh the office area to

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work through um an academic task and try to get them back on task or both of those things may be occurring. >> A multitude of things they are doing. >> Thank you. And sometimes it's managed in we're in the setting where you know

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we're trying to redirect and get them back on task. Yeah. >> Just being together in the classroom. >> And they are required to have 40 hours of behavioral training and they're registered through the behavior analyst certification board. So even if we don't have them initially, we try to help work

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towards that so that they're all registered and they all have that same training and they're supervised by the behavior analysts. How are do do you think we're going to be able to fill these all these positions? I have already a

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lot of interest. Um we had a position open and we had lots of applicants who were already registered. It's become more familiar. You know, more people have become registered. They've been working in clinical settings though. So, um not as many opportunities in the

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school environment, but um we have had uh strong candidates. Okay. So we we are hopeful on our consent agenda. We agreed to increase the uh presence learning which is speech therapy. So it's like

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why are we struggling to get speech therapists but not struggling to get behavior therapists. Um the speech and language pathologists are a much higher level um certification. It's masters level and they have to be credentialed through a

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body the um ASA and the registered behavior tech is high school diploma. They have to have 40 hours of the behavior specific training and testing and we provide that training through our behavior analyst team but it's a low it's not at the same certification

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level. How much would a be a entry somebody for a behavior check how much they would would they make like first year? >> Um any $ 18 to $20 an hour somewhere in that range where an SLP is typically

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>> Are you asking because you want to apply because you >> Yeah, we're always >> sir. You already know where I'm standing at on behavior and I'm getting a little too a little more patient and I would be a liability. I'm just going to tell you right now, be honest with you. You know who raised me, so that probably

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wouldn't like bode well for PBIS. >> Okay. Any further discussion? Quick, how physical can they get with students? We we are um every all of our staff that work in our self-contained

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varying exceptionality classrooms are certified in what's called crisis prevention and intervention um training. There are physical um holds that can occur and um are approved holds for students who may need to be physically

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managed. Um, all the RBTs are also trained in that and supervised again by the behavior analyst who those would be written specifically into a student's behavior intervention plan and it would be outlined when do we get to that point? How do we It's to keep the students safe and the other uh students

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or staff safe. >> It's not going to be not a real easy job. >> It is not a real easy job. No, sir. >> It's a very rewarding job. >> Yeah. if you like behavior, which I do. Well,

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I have uh been unofficially when I've done vacation Bible school, been in that position at the church, and it it was tough. It was tough. It is that the RBTs are there to like help coach and and work with the staff in the classroom as

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an extra support. And they're more trained on that plan and the strategies. They're more comfortable implementing those. And it just helps support the teachers and the staff when they're in those crisis situations. >> Will the teacher training be continual? >> Yes.

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>> I' I've been in a position where I've had to deal with students when I was not properly trained. I was told uh and showing the policies but actually going through was was you know difficult. >> We do training and then they coach in those classrooms and model and are there

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with the teachers and then annually we do refresher trainings. Okay. We have a lot of people that could do it on the paper but couldn't do it correctly. >> Yes, sir. We monitor that >> and to the point that it I will come out

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myself personally and assist and I've offered trainings like I will coach them specifically if we need to. And I've been a CPI trainer for 18 years. >> Yeah. My biggest help learn how to deescalate

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before we can get there. >> That's exactly right. And that's part of that training is verbal deescalation. So we we don't ever want to go physical hands-on with the student if we don't have to. For sure. >> And learn how to see that coming. >> That's right. >> Yeah. You don't see it coming. Sometimes it can be.

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>> Absolutely. >> Yes. >> Wow. >> I would just like it on the record that I'm answering questions. >> I know. No, you're you're I pulse your time. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> All right. Very good. Okay.

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We will uh we have no further discussion. >> No. All right. All in favor say I. >> All opposed. Motion carries. >> Next item of business is a new personnel allocation request for an ESC department uh staffing specialist. The backup

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documentation is presented. If you have any questions, if not, I recommend approval of action item 5B. So move. >> Second. Motion by Miss Nelson, seconded by >> Do we have any discussion? >> Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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>> So, how do we assign staffing specialists? We look at the case load numbers at each school and the number of meetings that they are having to hold. It varies depending on the school. Um they're

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running meetings anywhere from 150 to 250 meetings in addition to like the paperwork process that follows all of that. So we try to even it out between the specialists so that they um are pretty even. So, some if it's a larger

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school or a larger case number at a school, there may be one ESC specialist assigned. Um, some schools we've had to place two ESC specialists at um sometimes they will split and have two schools, you know, because the numbers are lower at a school.

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>> So, like you don't really get assigned to a school. You have to be willing to move around. >> You do get assigned for that year. At times we do move people based on personality sometimes, what what's a better fit or their background. Like if you're stronger in elementary versus

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secondary, we will place accordingly. Um but it can change. It's subject to change. You're not always going to be at the same school for the next 5 years or whatever. And it's important to note too that that the students that we've taken in over the past couple of years, a

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large incredibly large percentage of uh have high needs and have a a lot of meetings and so just want to add people, but our staff just cannot keep up with the volume. >> Yeah, we have not added one for 14 years. >> So I I don't have a a problem with

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adding because I mean I understand like I've been talking about the s the tsunami that has been building and now we're seeing it washing ashore. Um, but I had somebody reach out to me who was interested in in taking one of these

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jobs and they said the only thing that would hold them back from doing so was saying that if they had to live in Lel and come to Closton. >> Yes. >> And and then they said that their mileage like would not be reimbursed and they're like I don't want to pay

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>> like that to come to school if I'm not going to be assigned to school and stay at that school. >> Yeah. Yeah, I I can't we don't have enough DSC specialists for me to keep people sometimes on one side or the other. I have staff that may serve als

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you know they go two days here, three days there or vice versa. Um none of our staff is paid mileage for if they start at a school and they end at that school. Like if there's their workday is in closing that day, they're not that's where they show up. That's where they end. they are shipped the paid mileage

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if they have to go in the middle of that day come over to label for something a meeting and come back that mileage is reimbured. >> Okay. So what if let's say you assign me to Westside and you decide I'm a better fit for LMS partially through the year. >> Yeah.

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>> Do I get paid to drive from my home closer to LMS after that? >> No. >> Okay. >> Same as if you were a teacher and if you decided to work on one side of the district the other. I have a psychologist that drives from Port Charlotte. I don't pay her mileage to

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come to Lavel, right? It's the same idea like where would you start your day? >> Yeah. But like I lived in Clon um and then I'm I'm going to be the staffing specialist at Westside, but then you decide, you know, I need to go to LMS

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>> in the middle of the year, but you've already assigned me like I've agreed to work at Westside, but now you got me driving across the county, so I still don't get it. >> Right. and they're told upfront that that is the scenario and it could happen. I try very hard to keep it, you know, where people are on their side.

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Just depends on who who we have and what the needs are. I'm just giving some feedback here like we got this $5 gallon of gas and people there said it's, you know, cost prohibitive. >> That's all I got. >> Okay. Any further discussion?

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>> All in favor say I. >> I. All opposed. Motion carries. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The next item is action item 5C. It's for a full-time Medicare payroll analyst. This is the person that keeps up with all the expenses and reimbursements from Medicare. Um, again, the backup

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documentation is listed. Unless you have questions, I recommend approval of action item 5C as presented. >> I have a question. So, go ahead. So, ask a question. Okay. So, we had a contract for years doing this. Why are

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leaving our contract and moving to a full-time employee? >> This is a Mr. Adams uh department. I don't know that we've had a contractor doing this for a while. >> Haven't we been getting money from uh Medicaid for a long time to a district? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and but it was handled the paperwork

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was handled through a contract, wasn't it? Through an outside company. We have a a software platform that we utilize to help facilitate that, but the injury is is done in house and then the payroll associated with the Medicaid account is

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also done in house. This position was originally parttime. Uh the workload has required the fulltime position. >> Okay. Thank you. >> It's more of a data entry type. >> Yeah, there is exactly how we run payroll. They're just doing it just for

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the mandate. I will say we've increased our Medicaid funding because we're billing more. We have more related. So they're having more work load from that. Like we've increased our medic all of our a lot of our students that

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>> Yes, we have. >> Thank you. >> We have a motion by Re Brown. Do we have a second by Miss Nelson? Do we have any further discussion? >> Hearing no further discussion. All in favor say I. I. >> I. All opposed. Motion carries. Next

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item 5D, Mr. >> Yep. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Sanchez, I believe, is going to come forward and talk to us real quickly. Um, essentially, action item 5D deals with um an athletic fee proposal. We are in uh an environment where um our our

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expenses continually continually rise and uh everything from um the referees really are one of the biggest expenses that we have. travel expenses, administrative type expenses. Um, and so to offset those, most of the

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sports do either fundraisers of their own. We do supplement some money from the board to them. And even though we've increased that in the last couple of years, it still nowhere near covers, um, the the exorbitant expense that they have. Um, and so statewide, uh, we've been talking about this, uh, school

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boards, uh, start state department of education, superintendent, and we've been trying to come up with different types of of ways to offset that. And this is something that's going on pretty much statewide is, uh, how do we, um, uh, be fair, not punitive, but fair to everyone. And so, what we've come up

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with is just an across the board, um, athletic fee for for students that that play sports. So, having said that, I'll let Mr. Sanchez walk through the presentation with you if you have any questions for him. >> Yeah. And um in a nutshell, right, we're seeing a

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trifecta of rising cost associated with visual uh payments. Uh we're also seeing shrinking revenue at the gate, right? And rising cost for equipment related to those athletic teams. And so to help

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offset those three um things, our proposal is that we assess a $50 fee, $50 contribution uh for the year for each student athlete. If a household has more than two two or more, the fee would

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be capped at $75 individual school. So, we feel that it's a reasonable uh fee and uh we feel that it would be tremendous uh support for each school's athletic program if that fee if you would be supportive of that.

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>> What if I can't afford it? What if I have children at home, but I h I do not have $50 to give for fees. >> Great question. I just want to we do have a waiver process for that so that no student would be denied the ability to participate in uh in athletic teams

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because of lack or the inability to pay the fee. Uh we realize that athletics and participation athletics is a huge lever to getting kids to do the things that we want them to do academically that will be beneficial for them and and this this fee is in no way shape or form

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intended to inhibit that participation. >> Will there any further requirements be of a parent? >> Yes. So in order to part of the way that we will require parents or students to participate and volunteer in the concession stands uh give back to the

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athletic program. >> What if I have two children or or well I'm sorry my son plays football and baseball. >> Do I have to pay 50 per sport? >> No. It's only $50 for the year for one sport. If you have two students and let's say both of your students play

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football and baseball, it's $75. >> Who vets the uh the waivers? >> Uh the waivers would be vetted by the school athletic director and the school principal and how does the what's the criteria? Is

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there a financial level that they say that you're you're under poverty level? How do they how do they >> No, the waiver is going to be a very straightforward simple process. We just need that statement from the bank that says that they are not well we're not going to verify anchor we're not going

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to go into that >> and you're going to have them sort of work it out in a refreshing stand or something like >> correct >> soandatory >> I'm sorry it mandatory that each >> they're going to have basically they're

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going to have to give some time >> right so concession stand or or something you know if there's some other way that they can give I'm sure they'll work that out with What if this student in private school wants to do sports? >> $50 per student. >> Yeah, this this fee would be for all

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students regardless of the home school, private school. >> So I think we So we got a family cap 75. So that means if I have two kids or three kids or six kids, it makes no difference. 75 bucks is all I will ever pay.

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>> Yes, sir. As long as they're in the same school, right? If you have a student at the middle school and a student at the high school, then you pay $50 to the middle school for the program. >> But I still have two kids in your school system. I don't think that's right. >> We can modify that. >> I mean, that's that that's what you're

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going to hear. I will just about guarantee it. You're going to hear I've got two kids in your school. Doesn't matter if one's in elementary or high school and one they're both in Henry County school system. >> I want to talk. >> So, I think we need to look at that. the

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the money flow. And so if this this fee is generated for like and I'm look, we'll just say for I have a kid on the the tennis team and that it's generated does that money stay

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with the tennis team's internal account or does it go into like a general athletic fund? >> The money would follow the student to the direct sport that the students participate in. >> Okay. >> Or if they played two sports. >> Yeah. or three sports. So you're going to divide it by three and and

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>> to each one >> and so is that like I don't know 25 you said you know we'll make my kid do two or maybe my kid does four sports, three sports like is that is that going

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to >> like even be impactful for each sport? Like if you're getting like 14 bucks or 15 bucks for a kid. >> Yeah, I think any any funding at this point is helpful. I see what you're saying. It gets watered down over the more sports there is. But the the the

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point is not to be financially prohibitive to parents, you know, cuz we didn't want them to have to pay 50 bucks for started out saying 50 bucks per sport. We said that, you know, even on, you know, people who are not struggling. That gets to be a lot of the time they had to pay, especially they got to pay for uniform and cleats and everything else. but yet offset, you know, the

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cost. And that's why even for school, because if you play if you're wrestling, for example, you know, the the very first wrestling match, cuz you got to have multiple referees for that, you know, they they they can't go past one. And so, uh, if you're playing, you know,

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you got a child at each, there's an enormous amount of expense that goes along with that. And so, and we still as a district absorb a lot of that, like transportation and stuff. So if they had to pay for that, there's just it wouldn't be possible. And so again, this is just trying this is our mechanism that we're trying to put in place to

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help our our coaches and families so they don't have to go out and fund raise as much. Those there still will be some of that. This is not going to alleviate that, but this will just help not, you know, just take some of that burden away. >> Well, and it's like a first. You can always suggest it. >> Yes, sir. >> But, you know, I think the impact first

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is all you got to pay that kid in sports. But I also think that if a kid is you got a kid in middle school and a kid in high school, I don't I think it they should the family should be there for both of them. They shouldn't have to

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pay $50 and $50. So, I they have to lean in that direction on that. But, I think this is a good start for the cost. I mean, there's no question how much sports are costing. >> Yeah, we would propose that we make that adjustment. That's something else.

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>> I've never signed my kid up for anything that didn't have a registration fee >> ever. Anything. >> Goodbye, bat. >> Sir, tournament fishing. Thank you very >> Thank you very much for that. >> Do you have any other counties doing

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this? Yeah. Yeah. There there's multiple counties in the state of Florida that assess feasible between >> it goes from 1575 some some do up to $200 on our way. >> Yeah. This is a pretty this is a pretty

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widespread movement that's sweeping the state right now and in effort to try to and we're all suffering the same thing. In fact, um what really generated this with us, was it last year or a year before last, we got a letter from the GF Coast referee go I may be misrepresenting the exact name and they

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basically said we're we're no longer coming to we the time we the time we meet the time we do we have to do get there we're not even breaking even the time you know the travel and all the expense along with it and so we had to beg them and they said well the only way we can is if we really up our prices.

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>> So we pay more than coastal schools. >> Oh absolutely. Please tell me that's a thing. >> Absolutely. We pay a lot. We got an hour an hour and 20 minutes in the car each way. >> Yeah, that's right. So, are we paying them by the hour or are we paying them to do that?

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>> Depending on the week, but the um in 2425, the state basically approved that if a referee has to travel uh within 50 miles, they don't get any extra payment. But if they travel between 50 and 75 miles, they get the referees can charge

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per referee $10 more each way. If they go above 75 miles, it's $20 each. >> Yeah. >> And that graphic in your if you want to see just the difference in between uh in in the short amount of time he's almost doubled.

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>> How much how much is a referee? How much referee? >> How much is one referee cost? Well, it's typically for the season. You pay the referee official fees for the season. And you can see here, like for example, LHS football in 2025, they paid official

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fees of $4,000. This past year, it went up $1,300, right? So, I just gave you little snippets. >> I mean, one person, one referee coming, >> that's for the all the referees for all the games. They have to we have to turn in like we turn the roster in and then then they and they assess us a fee for

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those six games or not whatever the amount of games are times how many referees need to be here. So I don't I don't know that we know what it is per referee per trip or whatever but cuz they charge us kind of like a blanket cost include >> So we're only paying $20 more for a referee to come out here than they would

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on the coast. >> Uh $20 each way each referee. >> So it's $40 per referee more. >> Wow. for the poor rural inland non-coastal communities. >> Yeah. >> And that's a state statute >> on top of the basic fee. On top of the

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basic that also I get that elevated their own >> and that state statute. >> We're going to have to chat about that. Okay. Well, analyze for >> I I know I know other coaches in other

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districts that they don't even get any help from their from their boys, >> right? And and so it's a it's a blessing for our our district be able to financially help our sports out that

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way. That was my stupid call. I'm going to go to referee school. I might be a kid. >> Better take the PBIS classes first for the >> Yeah, I'm exactly the referee some of

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those parents deserve. >> You had been there. So, unless you have any further questions, recommend your approval of action on 5D athletic fees uh proposed with the amendment of making it $50 um $50 per student, but 75 cap per family.

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>> Yeah. >> So, second motion by Miss Nelson, seconded by Mr. Samurai. Do we have any other discussion hearing? No discussion. All in favor say I. I. >> All oppose. Motion carries.

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>> Thank you for that board. The next item um is a personnel item and this is personnel recommendation for a FIMLA and I believe we have one board member that probably will sustain. >> I will be sustaining. This is a relative of mine. So Mr. >> Hi, Mr.

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>> Action item number E. The action items a personnel recommendation from Mrs. Simmons. >> So moved. Second. I have a motion in a second for further discussion.

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>> I would like her to have her babies soon. Some grand baby pictures. Thank you very much. >> One more week. One more week. That'll be my birthday. It'll be all right. >> Okay. All right. I'll let you have one more week, but we got we got stuff to do here. So, we got we're on a timeline. >> All right. All in favor of the motion

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say I. >> I oppose. Motion passes. >> Thank you, board. Next item of business deals with our food service. Mr. Adams is going to um talk to us a little bit about that and give you an update on where we are with the food uh summer food service program. Um we have had

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some changes um with with our food service department and um it has caused a little bit of a conundrum um with some of the things uh that that we are doing. Mr. Adams is putting it back together and we are going to carry out the summer feeding program. There will be some changes with regard to how we have done

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it in the past couple of years. It may lead to some twists and issues and maybe we don't know yet, but but nonetheless, um Mr. Adams is doing a good job of keeping us compliant and uh and working toward getting um uh the the food

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available for the people that need it the most. So, I know if y'all looked at the information or if y'all want Mr. Adams to explain further, >> please uh give us the review for sure. So um we we had some

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personnel changes and in that process we lost the person that was had the training that the state required for us to participate in the non congregate feeding option. Um now what that means is that we cannot participate in the

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delivery or the advanced service of meals to students this summer. We tried to do everything that we could offer to take the training but it was just not provided to us and ultimately the answer from from the state was no

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and so therefore myself clerally have worked together to produce the schedule that you see here tonight and we've expanded public sites. We're offering a public meeting at both middle

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schools over the summer. Um and of course we'll continue to service the students that participate in summer school and the BPK summer school programs service will be provided there. We're also delivering to numerous community

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sites that are also open sites available to the public to come in during those times. I'm requesting the additional personnel request with the intention to expand and transform our current food service program uh to the levels of all of our

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expectations and I believe that by increasing the responsibilities requirements and credentials and uh the correspondence You say they're not they don't have the congrential. How do they how do you

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provide that for them? >> There's a one inerson training that's offered from the state that was incorporated into the rule from USDA and you had to participate in person in January >> and and our personnel was trained and we

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had it but then left and we knew we only had one. So now we're going to do toward a redundant. So now we're going to have more than one person trained where if this happens again, we got extra folks on staff. >> No, when I looked at the calendar, I don't see any services for the month of July in the first week in August.

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>> June, actually. So about 6 weeks without a summer meeting. We we do have several locations all the way through July. >> All the way through July. >> Yeah. Till the >> July 21. >> Great. I must have read that wrong or something.

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>> Mr. Some most outlying areas are not going to be getting food delivered that they are used to being delivered. >> That's right. We will see a massive reduction in health. >> Well, I'm I'm going ask people about that.

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>> So, loopholes need >> turn the mic off. Um, could somebody, let's say at Pioneer Center, a representative come into town

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and pick up set of mountain mills and >> child has to be present >> and eat >> and they have to eat on. >> This is uh and I'm with every one of you and and to describe this in our our constituents terms, this is government

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at its finest. It's not what we want. is not what you want, but these are the standards that we're held to. >> Have we reached out to our congress person? >> Mr. Mr. SW and I both have attempted to make contact with eventually it was the

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chief of this USDA program how persistent I was trying to to get a different answer. >> Well, I have to believe that Mr. Adams did his best to rectify this situation.

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Sorry that it's the way it is though. >> Yeah, it's very unfortunate, very unfortunate to our community and uh we will also see that that I've already looked at the numbers whenever we had congregate seating versus the

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non- congregate that we did last year. There's a there's about 100% difference. What is the the chances that we can go ahead and do whatever training needs to be done and get it done over the summer and pick this program up before the summer is over? Is that a

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>> the next training that's and the only training available is in January and there will be multiple people from Henry participating >> January January. >> So he tried that was his first he said no problem I'll do it. I said well can't get it till January. >> So we're willing to do it. There's no

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nobody else that does that training anywhere. >> There is not. And uh the actually the the training uh that they provide is a recorded webinar that is also online and uh I said I would

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watch it, train it, verify that I watched it. Said I we we will pay somebody to come down the train, somebody in Henry the name of this. We will travel to you to participate in the dream and answer all the way around. >> Yes. >> Has anyone made My question is has

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anybody made contact with Congressman Franklin's office about this? >> I have not. >> Let's Can we one last Hail Mary on this one? I I I'll give you some contacts there. >> Glad to glad to or reach out for you behalf and say, "Hey, this is

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>> like this is not cool." And >> can you give us some leverage here? >> Yeah. I mean, that's they can help with things like that. So, >> let's link up on that one and at least >> hopefully that'll help. Worst case scenario, there will be food spots available through the throughout the county, not the exact same spots. And

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there will be some food available. So, people may have to travel. >> You know, I know that's a >> that's a gallon >> is travel. >> I agree with all of you and I did not have the same concerns. I know kids that are

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>> as far as providing the eating service, we're doing so in the best of our >> I've seen the line so nor eat and I can tell we're not going to be a line at all. Why did they tell you why?

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>> Because we we didn't watch >> our guy. the the guy left who the one person who had the training who watched the one person at the training quit and then now we have no training and they

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don't and they won't let somebody watch a webinar >> cuz that's Yeah, >> it's not even a real >> going to Margo. Let's go. bus county bus. I know they come from Zelda.

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Could they pick up families and transport them to Lamel or to another site? >> So, I don't know what they're Henry County stream. >> They they do go all over the county. I know. I see them all over the county. >> I know they go to Phil. I just don't

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know if that's something they would do if they could pick up families children. >> You have to call and organize that model to do that every >> you have to register kids to get that food >> like how do you say how do you verify that a kid came there in person cuz a

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kid's not flashing an ID the sites are open for children under 18. >> Okay. But how do they verify that the actual child showed up? >> I'm not sure. >> Do they take attendance? Like if I came

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in and I had four little kids that are not in our school system yet. That's how do they verify that they got meals? >> They whenever they go through the service line, they they check how many meals were provided and that's how we can re >> Yeah, she she's looking for a loophole.

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I know what she's what she's after there because they're not in our system. So, I mean, they just they just say, "Check, we had six kids come through that are the age of two and a half or three >> that aren't in our system." That's what she's asking about and trying to

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>> I mean, that's what how he is viewing it, but >> she's ducking and dodging. I like what I like the way she's ducking over there. >> That's his interpretation of the situation. No. Uh but all all I can say officially is that um the

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miler or provided students under under 18 and they're account for we need to meet afterwards. >> Thank you Mr. Adams. Mr. Adams is doing his best to keep us compliant order and have them pay for it ourselves but not get reimbured basically what happens. I

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get that. We appreciate you Mr. Adams. >> All right. So that's the just some information for it. We don't need any approval for the the >> I don't believe so. I think that was an FYI. >> No, we need >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Oh, correct.

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>> Oh, that's the SK. You're basically approving the schedule is what it is. And my apologies. >> We need a recommendation. >> I recommend to approve action item 5e, the summer food service program as presented. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Motion by Mr. Samber, seconded by Miss

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Nelson. we have any other discussion. >> What would happen if we didn't approve it? We're saying like this is not acceptable from the government. We need your help. >> I mean, would they just be like we're not feeding anybody? >> Probably.

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>> Essentially, yes. So, we had to have this schedule approved in order for us to to move forward and advertise and to provide the on-site mill. >> You guys got the one that quit.

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>> I would I would certainly recommend that we approve this tonight and move forward with this. And if we want to go back and readress it and try to get some more leverage and help to move back to where we were, then we can address that. The very least we could do what we have in front of us this evening. >> So the person that that was I do have

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one follow the person that was trained for this is gone. So what is allowing us to do it at these other sites? That's not our schools. What is allowing that? participated in the and took the the necessary courses through the summer

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feed service program and and listed myself as the administrator of that. >> Okay. >> Thank you, sir. All right. Any further discussion? All in favor say I. I. >> All oppose. Motion carries. Next item

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5G. >> Thank you, board. Next item 5G. Um, so Early on in the conversation when we were uh getting ready to start uh the the LL High School project, um we were getting a lot of advice and a lot of uh

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directions and a lot of things happening and we we originally talked about hiring someone to be uh basically a manager of the construction, if you will. Um Mr. Mus and I have said several times that really there's no one in this district today that has done a construction

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project. Um and so we know there's things we didn't know. We know there still today we know there's things we don't know. But what has come to our attention that especially after what we have gone through um for basically uh the the architectural piece of this um

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had we have had somebody on board that would have recognized red flags um and and intervened um in ways that would have been more beneficial to us early on. uh we we might not have potentially would not have wound up where we are and would have been much further ahead of

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schedule. And so what we're proposing is to move forward tonight with an owner's consultant and owner's representative. And this person basically is going to take the lead with regard to managing the contracts of the of the Owens and Kimble, managing the

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contract of the architect, um, keeping up with the workflow, keeping up with the quality control to ensure things are happening in a timely manner and kind of be the one to to take care of a lot of that minutia that Mr. Bus was juggling as well as then raise the red flag when

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something doesn't happen on time, if something doesn't happen at the correct quality. Um and and that person would be the one to do that for us. Um the money is will come through the special facilities and in fact uh Owens and Kimble is using a consultant now and

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when we did the RFP the consultant applied for the position and sorted at the top and so essentially we're going to we're proposing to utilize that person and then we will then utilize the funding from OSM Kimble not through our general fund. So, having given you all that information, we're asking you to

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approve action item 5G, which is to award the owner's representative to Pathway Project Consulting. Um, they did sort out very handily uh in the RFP process. Um, and we have a contract with them that we'll bring back to you as well cuz I don't think the contract is attached to this, but we do have their

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contract and we'll bring that back to you at the next board meeting for approval. What is the compensation for this >> in in the in there? It's basically an hourly compensation. And so it's not a set fee, but it's an hourly compensation fee. So if there's months when it's just kind of ho homework and they're not

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having to come here a lot and it's just keeping up with things, it'll be on an hourly basis. >> Where is project pathways project consulting based out of? >> He's in uh Elatchway County and Newberry. >> Okay. And is there a cap on how much we're willing to spend?

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um >> like up to a contract up to like so we just kind of have an idea like I want to know what the seal financial statement is on this >> and and bear in mind basically again the contract itself with that information is forthcoming. We're working on that and

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getting that vetted now and we'll bring that back to you in the in the June board meeting. So that will give you a chance to get that information and ask that information. This is just simply approving the RFP so we can move forward with the contract and get that in place and do those >> kind of want to know what a price range

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is before I say like what a ceiling would be on that before I said yeah let's proceed into um you know further other than looking at Mr. B and going just work harder. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Yeah, I agree. I'd like to see a

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contract with some stipulations in there with with finances. What are we talking about? I mean hours, how many hours? I understand an hourly rate. Um I I in my personal business, I prefer to do an hourly rate. It benefits me and my

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customer, you know, because I don't I could give them an estimate that it could be high. Sure. So I don't want to take advantage of it that way. But at the same time, you know, >> right? And again again tonight just bear in mind all I'm asking you to do is approve the RFP process so that we can move forward with that negotiation and

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bring you that back um at in the June meeting. >> So we're not approving the actual contract itself right now. They're not hired as are >> right contract. >> That's right. That they will be approved um for us to move forward. You're accepting that and then we can go back to the negotiation table with that.

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>> All right. That's good. >> And Miss Tanner still has it. We haven't I don't believe she's we think we may have sent it to her but she's not. we've not vetted through it to make sure that it's acceptable and stuff. So, we still have to do that yet. And I'm hearing you when you come back, you want to hear, you know, what would a ceiling be? Uh, and then the hourly rates. And I know

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that that information is there. >> Yeah. Yeah. The hourly rates and are we who's dictating the hours that they're working, >> you know, for verifying that >> now I'm all paranoid in that >> after the situation where the architect.

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>> We have notes for that. We'll make sure those are addressed when you get that back in June. The actual contract itself. >> Yes, there mileage included in there. That's a good point. >> Yeah. Yeah, there's travel. There's definitely travel fees and things like that in the contract. >> Should be in the contract. Should be in the contract. >> It is. >> All right. Good.

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>> So anyway, with that in mind, I would ask your approval to action item 5G. >> So move. >> Second. All right. Motion by Mr. Samurai, seconded by Reverend Brown. You have any further discussion? Hearing no further discussion. All in favor say I.

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>> I. I. >> All opposed. Motion carries. >> All right. We will move on to old business. New uh LHS updates. >> Yep. Distribution is going to give you an overview of where we were or where we

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are. Grace, they've been working since the end of March. >> Wow. They have been diligently working vetting the plans uh scrubbing through the plans to make sure that everything is kosher on them to making sure that

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they they they going to work for us. They're finding a lot of different areas where we have to make some changes on. They have been superstars in my eyes because of the work they're doing at the timely manner. It's been what 60 days

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and they're about ready to probably the next couple weeks or so give us our stamp of approval on the plans from grace. So that's going to get us moving and we're working on they're also while they're scrubbing through the plans they're also doing very important RFIs. They're going through the plans and

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looking at the structural steel and approving that or and we're working on some smittles on some of our big projects like our switch gear, our generator, um multiple other different things. So we have like a hot list for him and he's doing that while they're struggling through the plans to get the

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stamp of approval. So Grace has been great from us. Um ODK has been troopers along with us right now. Right now we are at the central utility plant building. We had cement block walls. Um it started on Monday when I was there on Friday. They

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only had a few more tiers to go. So they're probably done. I did not go there today. Um they should be getting the structural serial for the CPU this week. uh trusses in the next three or four days after the structural steel is up. We'll have a rough in dry in roof

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during the first week of June and the central utility plan is that's where our chiller is going to be. That's where electrician is going to be coming in. That's going to be our you know our mechanic building. Um they're still doing all the underground electrical throughout the main building. I believe

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when I was there on at the end of last week we were moving into the office building. So we're we're through the we're through the gym, we're through the cafeteria, we're down the hallway, and we're moving into the front office buildings. So we only have the office buildings to do for that and then also through the auditorium. So they're

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moving right along. Naughty has been a a great uh subcontractor for us. They've been piling through the whole time. And during the meantime, they're making the casting beds for our tilt walls. They were making the casting bed like uh probably 40 yards away from our

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where the toe walls gone up. So make the casting bed, level it out, pour the wall, and then be able to tilt it back up and put our outside walls in. And I think the only thing I have left is we should be getting some answers from uh from at the end of the by the end of

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the month whether we're going to get our last payment that we ask for. So hopefully that is cross your fingers and see what we can get from the state. Any other questions, thoughts or concerns from Mr. Sam? >> The company that we contracted with for

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other not the new high school but the other schools. Have you utilized them lately for any roofs or AC or leaks or anything? >> You mean architecture? You mean? >> No. Clyde Johnson. >> Clyde Johnson. Have we had to use utilized him

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>> at the new high school? >> No, not at the new high school. Any place else? >> We don't. I I use our vendors tremendously. I mean, all the time I use I mean all our vendors I mean I I get more call them. They have work.

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>> Have we had leaking roofs? >> Pardon? >> Have we had leaking Is that what you're asking? Have we had leaking roofs? >> I still don't hear you. >> Have we had leaking roofs? >> What did I know? We have we had a drain roof over there today that we fixed but nothing major.

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Our roofs are in pretty good shape right now that I know on both sides. >> So how much work have they had to do recently? Clyde shots you say I call them all the time. So how much work are they doing? >> Well for us right in the past recently

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in the past we caught up on our roof during the S3 money. So, uh, you know, it's it's at the last few weeks. >> It's at the nose in the last three weeks. It's at the end of the funding cycle, sir. So, I have to wait for new money to do a couple things for in July.

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>> So, so Johnson has not been doing any work week in the work in the schools in the last few weeks. >> We have, we have other projects that we've been working on. >> I'm sorry. What other projects >> we're working on? The Canefield bleacher

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section. We're working with Rich and Patrick on that right now. Um, we're working with Jonathan on a few remodels of the back portables. Um, >> I know they they responded to uh two

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pipe burst in Wilson High School C. Uh, >> that was a couple months ago. Yes, but I'm trying to think about what we're doing with them right now. >> But that's that's what we're doing right now with them right now. Is there a reason you

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>> Well, because Mr. has been very busy with the high schools, but we have these other companies that are coming in doing work, but we get no notification from the board what is going on in the other schools anymore. So, that's my point. I want to know what's going on in the

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other schools and are we having big expenses and stuff like that? I'd like to know what's going I don't think that's an unreasonable question. >> Do you approve RPOS? the new year checks that we pay. >> You're not asking that. I'm asking you what kind of work they're doing. I've

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asked you that four or five times now. That's all on the outside. So, I'm sorry if I did not answer your question. So, I just wanted to know what's going on in our schools. >> Yeah, we have an update like a status.

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>> We used to do that all the time. a project update or >> I think right now on the high school >> we have a lot >> we haven't stopped anything in the other school. >> We're still doing our maintenances. We just we just we're working on all of our

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school houses with at least three rooms for our summer projects. We have uh we just opened up some money in some uh for the new year for a couple future projects that we're doing. We have I mean it's it's we're running as running as usual with our spin back and making

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things happen. >> And unfortunately they the the maintenance department spends a lot of time triaging if you right. I mean they can have the best laid plans but when a pipe burst they they stop and they divert to that. But it's just I would call that the normal minutia of their job. >> Sure.

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>> So I I wasn't where you wanted to reporter at asking that. >> I had we got contractors coming and doing work. I just like to know what basically what they're doing. >> Okay. >> Okay. And and a lot of times they're doing the same thing. >> That is the function of the school board is to find out what's going on. Make

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sure it's moving smoothly. Okay. >> I mean, we're spending a lot of time on the high school that got kicked back 5 months and just what's going on in our schools. We had some some of our major projects that we did this year. We have we have our rubber track in. We now

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courts at the Louisw high school and the tennis courts and the basketball courts where along with three or different rooms per school at least painted and carpeting. Um, >> see that's what it was. >> That's but that's like our everyday stuff. >> Yes,

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>> we consider that everyday maintenance. >> That's my job every day. I >> and and again they go back to our footprint of our of our fleet of buildings is incredibly old >> and so it takes a lot you know and then plus you got 7,300 students in them

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every day and so on top of the aging footprint you know that the wear and tear that they get that it >> two brand new playgrounds in over here this year about that um >> I just want a list of all the major

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>> I think that's great information but I was not aware of it until you just open. >> Is there like a project list or I mean not like everyday maintenance like like hey we got an outlet here or anything like that but like a major is that something that you're like looking

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at Mr. Samite like a project list. >> Yeah. Just what's going on make sure we're able to maintain everything and we contract a lot. Just wanted to know what's going on. I think that's >> you know everything focused on on my new

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high school making sure everything is like it should in the other >> and we have and uh our staff we're you know the new high school is being constructed by a completely outside source you know so our staff and our funding for what we do has not changed

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at all we have we're maintaining doing improvement projects or or repair projects as we've always done that that has not changed at I'm not on campus 24/7 nor in a week. I mean, I'm in our school houses working on our maintenance and market. We have

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not skirted our responsibility on our school houses with this new building. I wasn't implying that. >> He said I wasn't implying that. I was just asking what was going on. I had been a time where we we had excuse

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me um capital project list of those items being worked on and it didn't get down to the plug but the major project we have you see that list we know he'd be checking off where are we with that that may help >> and we had I don't recall ever having

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one >> well the point been here a long while >> that's right we used to have that listed with one sheet they would check off all the bunch like a capital project, >> right? It's some major thing done. Yeah. But all the little stuff like here and

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there have been building >> the big projects. Yeah, that may help. We we do have we do have multiple year plans and capital projects things that we can start to provide. >> And then with our with our cap of 50,000, we have to approve everything

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that we spent over $50,000. >> Yeah. >> And then we have to go out for everything that's over a certain amount of money. approval. >> Anything over 50, we have to purchase orders. >> Anything

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we have, >> we can move. >> Don't get excited over there, sir. >> Thank you, Mr. Yes, sir. Thank you. >> Anybody have any other questions about the LHS updates?

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All right. So, we'll move on to attorney updates. Madam attorney, do you have anything? We'll see. >> Nothing apart from what you've already heard tonight. I'm reviewing the owner's representative agreement and also finalizing the contract with Grace of Mines. We're going to have a meeting

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with district staff to go over the compensation plan for Grace and other aspects of the contract and both of those will be before the board in January. Anything else? All right. So,

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we'll move on to board member business. Mr. Quiddle, do you have any I do have just a couple things um that I would like to make sure you guys are aware of. Um again, I just wanted to just say it one more time because I'm incredibly proud of the fact that uh Henry County

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Schools is leading the charge for self-insured and then the um the risk sharing pool that we're doing. This model has taken off across the state and there's an enormous amount of districts going to it and it's it's being a gamecher. We can't do much about the money we don't get that we need, but we

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can do what we can do about controlling our own expenses and this has proven to be one of those situations and we're very very very proud of that. Um at the next board meeting, the June board meeting is June 16th. >> Yes, >> June 16th. Um, at the June 16th board

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meeting, I will be uh I will not be present. I will be uh coming back from the same exact trip that Mr. Samike just returned off of last night. Um, Dr. Staley um and team will be running that one. So, I encourage y'all to give her all the havoc yall can

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prepare for that. So, she likes it. She likes it when you all do that. So, um that I know you are. Okay. So, um, at that there's a one of the things that we're doing and we still have a lot of work to do to get there, but our goal is

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to be able to bring this to you at the June board meeting. I just want to give you a heads up about it so y'all can be thinking about it and if you have questions, please ask, you know, between now and then. Um, part of the plan when you're self-insured is to do everything you can to keep your staff healthy. We want a healthy staff. We want to make sure that

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we have healthy people and doing everything we can proactively to keep people healthy. One of the things that we are looking at right now and and being a part of fleet they are driving this for us as well is to have a dedicated Henry County schools clinic

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and at this clinic um it'll be a clinic for our our people that we have um that that you you you will have access to and what we want is we want our people to go there and basically what we're going to do is we're going to pay a set fee for it. So our employees are going to go

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there for nothing. no co-ay, no fee out of pocket. The goal of that is if you think about the the number of when you go to the doctor, you know, um most the time, oh, I'm aching here. I'm hurting the area, you know, okay, we'll try this and but in the meanwhile, we're paying a very high fee for that to the doctor. If

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we can circumvent a giant percentage of that through a contracted basis, then that's going to take a lot more money off of what we're paying monthly to doctor fees. And so this is an effort number one to give our give our employees a quick fast access medical

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care and number two cut down on more costs that we're paying out of pocket. Um at the next meeting the goal is to have to in front of you um uh an approval of a of a clinic provider for Hender County Schools. So we want to be

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able to get that approved and roll that out with the beginning of the school year or as close to the beginning of school year as possible. So again, uh there's few districts around the state that have these, but again, this is definitely odd, you know, and rare and and cutting ed cutting edge of what we

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are doing in in Hendry to be able to provide this for our employees. So, >> how are the providers going to be chosen? >> It's a it's an RFQ. They started off with an RFQ and they had four major um uh participants and today, yesterday and

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today the fleet team is vetting who are they qualified? Do they have qualified staff? Do they have qualified credentials backgrounds? Are they financial stable enough to provide a clinic? And they're going through it from a from a medical large um uh statewide type of a of a a lens and then

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they're going to come back. So people from is it local people choosing providers that would work for in Henry County School District? >> It will be. Yes. So what they're on that team >> they're going to they're going to look at the qualified folks and then they're

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going to rank them >> and then they're going to bring back to our local they're going to come back to Hendry County Schools. It'll have to go through the insurance committee and the insurance committee will look and and vote, if you will, and then ultimately this board will wind up voting on who that is.

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>> Nonhenry County people are going to determine who's qualified and it's going to come to they're going to choose one person and it's going to come to insurance. >> No, no, they're going to rank them. So, they will give a ranking. So, as long as

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they meet the qualifications that they can provide a clinic, then they will rank them. Here's here's the four. They all four qualify, but here's based on their their background, their business, and what we believe. Here's how we would rank them. Now, here, you make the decision on what you want. So, ultimately, again, the insurance

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committee will look at those and take the first bite, and then it will come to you for the to either support their decision or not. >> So, what does the set fee look like for >> that's it? It's going to be a per employee per month fee. And we that's

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part of what the RFP is going to be. We expect it to be a lot. You know, we expect it to be several hundred,000, but it doesn't have to you don't have to see many patients at what we pay per month to buy down several hundred,000. >> Okay. So, what you presented to us, I

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would like to see like what the said fee would be versus what historically pay like per month like an average day. And um the insurance committee like the same

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people we have representation from our teachers administration like we have stakeholders from every single part of it. >> Correct. Now, when you say clinic, explain this to >> it'll be simples and bandaids. >> Yes. Why do you go to the doctor, right?

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You you hurt or or I just need my blood work done. I need, you know, I'm having I'm having a little pain here, you know, can you check that? So, the same reason you you would go to a doctor. What we're going to do is our intent of this is to change the behavioral analytics of our people and say, "I need to go to the Henry County Clinic, Henry County

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Schools Clinic, and go there to get the medical attention or questions to whatever is bothering you at that point in time." >> And from there, if you need a specialist, they >> That's correct. Yeah. Same thing. Same exact thing. That is correct. Yes. >> How many sites do you think we're going to have? >> My goal is to be able to service

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employees on both sides of the district. Is that going to be two full-time sites or is it going to be two part-time sites? We don't know that yet. Again, that's going to depend on the the applicants and and what they have presented to us and what they can do. >> Okay. So, we have this, you know,

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theoretical here. We have it in place and then you know me salty >> that I'm not sure that's going to I don't want to use it. >> I'm not sure they can cure that though. >> Well, we're going to need some very very uh

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highly qualified specialists for but say I'm salty. I don't want to use it. That's not gonna keep me from going to see my provider of my choice. >> That's correct. Right. The goal is not to keep you from going to who you want to. The goal is to drive you to this as as a fast means and a cost savings

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measure for the district. >> Okay. And if I add family coverage, are family members able to use the money >> there? We intend to have a family option available, right? Yes. >> And so what is that? What do you mean option? So, so right now, so it's going to be basically an additional fee

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basically on top of what we're paying. And so, um, we do anticipate there being, so you want to add, you know, your your spouse that doesn't work for the district. So, it'll probably be an additional fee that you would pay for that spouse to come on board just like just like family coverage if

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you had the medical insurance coverage otherwise. >> So, it wouldn't really like be any financial incentive to not go outside with the kids or the like my so my kids are on on that insurance um I would have

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to still pay I would have to pay a co-ay for them on top of the insurance premiums I paid for them >> that's I don't have that in front of me yet but yeah the early discussions was yes because we're paying for our employees any any souls you add there has to be a fee collected with that you

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know so that to pay for that but the the big the big piece of it is convenience um express rather than waiting an an hour in a doctor's office, you're going to be seen within minutes or less, you know. Um, and get get that build build the healthy attitudes is what we want.

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Try people there so that you drive them when I say drive them there, build the behavioral piece of them that, you know, I need to get my blood work done. It doesn't cost me anything. I can go do it real quick, you know, and and it's better for the district. I'm healthier. And that behavioral will then attend in

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turn buy down more of the cost that we're paying out monthly, you know, to medical doctors. I love my new doctor that replace Dr. Khaki, right? But, you know, there's a set be with that and so if I can, you know, >> so we're going to require them to have a

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facility on each end of the county. They're going to have a mobile unit. >> No, it'll be it'll be a facility, right? And either they'll have it or we'll negotiate where we provide pieces of it. We don't know yet. That's that's still one of the things that we have to work out. Um, some of the districts use

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portables. And so you take a portable that you know you wall off the front's reception and the back is where the doctor is type thing. So there's all kind of options that we can do and I want to do it as cheaply as we can obviously. So we don't require them to be 5 days a week, 6 days a week cuz you

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know I mean we don't people don't only get sick on Monday through Friday. I mean you know Saturday morning they wake up whether it's a hangover or or kidney. Yeah. So, um yeah, the hours, the operations, you know, all those things

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come forward, you know, when we when we hone down on a set provider, >> right? >> Medical confidentiality of course. >> So, I went to the doctor or something. >> You can't board can't call the Why was

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he there? Was he that sick? >> Yeah. >> That just took a sick day, you know. Well, and and to that point, I told you today we have four people that's driving 52% of our expenses, but I don't know who they are.

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>> And nor would they tell me cuz I asked >> and and I only asked because we wanted to provide what can we provide extra for them. They need more time off. Do we need to get them, you know, and but they said, "No, no, we're not we're not going there. That's perfect. You can't find that out." >> What happened with our self insurance before? We had a couple big ones

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>> way back in the '9s. >> Yep. Because y'all didn't have risk sharing. We did not have right answer. Correct. That's right. >> All right. >> There's a lot of questions. That's why I wanted to bring it to you today. I know this board likes to have as much notice as you can. And so, and I'm trying to

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give it to you now. And as we get more information, we'll continue to to to pass that on to you. And if you have more questions, by all means, please call because this will be a game changer again for something that we offer that's very unique, you know, to a to a school district. And so, I'm very very proud of

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proud that we're hopefully going to be able to pull it across the finish line. So, >> you like trying new things? >> I do. I do. They This This group right here hates the way that I like change, but I like I like change. >> I really I really like change, but that's just me.

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>> A lot of it paid off. >> Well, speaking Speaking of which, thank you for saying that because that's where we're going next with what I want to present to you. Um, we are getting um a lot of our academic data back right now.

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um is still in raw form and so I don't want to share the data itself with you because it's still tweaking and changing and clarifying. However, what I will share with you is um this time last year we had the most academic growth and highest achievement that we had seen in Henry County Schools history. Today the

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data looks even better than it did last year. >> Wow. >> And so we're very very pleased. We're very happy. We're very excited. Um there's still testing to be done. Um but the the indicators that are coming in is that uh we're we're once again uh going to exceed last year's um last year's

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goals, you know, that were met. I'm very proud of that. I'm very proud of our students. We have proven that students um from uh a a rural povertystricken, not many opportunity community that are ELLL and that live in tough situations still can come to school and learn and

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be high achieving schools. And we're very proud of that. Um, we're proud of the fact that we're a district that that has struggled with a lot of things. We don't have a lot of shopping. We don't have a lot of things to draw people here, but the staff that we have has stepped up in ways that we've never seen

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before. And the scores and the academic achievement we're seeing is off the charts for Hendrick County schools. So, you're going to be very impress impressed and blown away with that. And every school, even our online partners with DAOF is just showing massive academic growth. Um, we're very very

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very very excited that we will again we will continue to bleed that information to you as we get it you get that before but at that board meeting in June you'll probably have hopefully by then the officials that Miss Duncan and Mr. Sanchez can present to you to share that with you but hopefully will before that we'll have it out and have it public.

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So, so I'm very very proud. A lot of it is 100% because of the changes that we made collectively. Um, this team has been very malleable. They have brought some great ideas. You guys have supported the half day PDS. You guys have supported a lot of stuff that we've done. A lot of the coaching mechanisms,

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everything down to tonight. You know, being able to put some behavior techs in schools is going to again, you know, put our leaders and teachers in a position where they can do more of their job and have to deal with less of those things. So, thank you for the support that y'all have given us. We have done a lot of the outside of the box things. We have

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driven academics. The expectations that we have, it's high. Um, our people are gassed because they have worked hard. Our our leaders are gassed. Our teachers are gassed. But they have done a phenomenal job for us. And uh, we're, you know, we're going to we're going to reap the benefits of that here, you

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know, in the next I think by Friday. I think all testing is finished by Friday, right? So by by this Friday and early next week, we should have most of the preliminary results and we hope to share that with you. But we're going to again have a lot of celebration, a lot. So, >> and I didn't know setting up, man. No,

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you did good. What else you want to talk about? >> I swear we didn't talk before we promise that wasn't the smells smell like an a district coming. >> Well, I'm not going to I'm not going to promise that, but but it's definitely growth and growth is always good. Never

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before, you know, has Henry County Schools seen the highest academic standards and achievements that we're seeing right now. And so, I think that's something that we all should be proud of. the the work that's come out of the folks in front of us and the support that you you you guys have provided, we can hang our hat on it and I'm very very

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proud of it. >> Do you think that's in part to because I listened to the argument about you know the we were doing once a year standardized testing which is like a screenshot of one kid's performance each day and so do you think this progress monitoring model with the 3 PMs

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um encourage that that growth? So what do you think? >> I think I think that there's a lot that that contributed to the success. I do believe that that is one of the things that did. Um many of our schools were using a similar tool to that all along

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anyway, but some of the schools were not. And so being able to look at real time data. I ran in 2020 on the fact that we were going to utilize data to drive our district to a better place. We use the data from those PMs to make necessary changes, adjustments.

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Sometimes it's a you know adjustment to way a teacher's teaching. Sometimes it's where a teacher is they don't need to be there. Let's get you know so we have used that data to drive massive changes in this district back in a timely manner to be able to make those adjustments. >> It's real time >> and it's a double-edged sword because

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you're testing the kids like three times a quart which is like >> and then you're actually getting useful data. >> Right. How we teach has changed. We have changed how we teach. Uh and we're going to continue to change how we teach. We're looking now at a lot of information about the hazards of too

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much screen time, especially that K to2. And so we're going to continue to reduce that. Good old-fashioned teaching in a classroom where your lessons are aligned to a standard and then the leadership is, you know, ensuring that that's happening is the key. It's just good oldfashioned teaching and learning. So

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I'm very very proud of it. I hope you I know you guys are as well. Um, and again, there's going to be you're going to start hearing a lot of roaring at the schools here shortly when all this stuff starts hitting. And uh, and we're very very very excited for it. So, if you see a teacher or or or someone from one of the schools, please tell them thank you.

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I've been going to the schools and giving the disclaimer. I know it's inappropriate, but I hug the principles anyway cuz they deserve it. >> So, so thank you for that. And with that, that's all I have. >> Yeah, I know, right? I'm way over.

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Where's that 10-minute limit on you feel very >> superended >> your your protege over here I have he took up all my time Mr. or Dutch. >> Well, just to follow along a little bit, I see it in the schools when I walk into

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the schools. I see the relationship between the teachers and the kids, the students, and whether at the high school or one of the elementary schools. It's it just great feelings going on. I mean, I I know we we have some issues with

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some discipline issues. I don't see that when I'm walking through the hallways. I don't see it in the office. I mean, times have changed here in our schools and stuff like that. People are working hard, but the relationship between the students and the teacher, the teachers

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and the administration, they're like a team. They're working very hard. I'm just very happy with what I'm going to school. It's a changed world in the last couple of years. >> You can see it. That's awesome. >> I feel it. That's right. Good. >> It It's great. Absolutely.

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>> That's what I got for you. >> Awesome, Miss Nelson. Um, just let's clarify. Graduation this Friday. What time do we need to be? >> Um, I've not been given an exact time. >> 6:15 >> at at the middle school cafeteria. Okay.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Y, >> do you have anything, sir? >> Uh, no. Only only question I have is when you pass our board out here to the house to check what time I start

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I can't be cuz it's going >> Oh yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, >> can we can we slow the changing the scroll on the board? Can y'all adjust the timing? >> You can look into it.

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>> Okay. And some of that too is like they put a whole flyer up there and that's it's you're that's like a well I call it the 60 m it shouldn't be 60 m an hour but like a 60 m an hour message but like no that's like an advertising and like

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you have the 60 mph the 45 mph like the 30 mph and so maybe like um you know it it looks good but I like I'm right there with you like I can't read like the message on it. So maybe like focus on like like the actual message and

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like make it like a billboard. You don't have everything on a billboard. A billboard's not busy and that's exactly what that is. Like the message is readable. >> But um other than that, I don't really have anything, you know, a lot of school visits and um

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going and a lot of the end of the year celebrations and ceremonies. I want to share I had a had a big time. I love when we can embed like civics and education in the um Mr. Nicholson from Country Oaks had his kids do a project

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at um what they determined that label they did with the research label did not have an official bird and so they took it upon themselves to do an art contest. The kids got up here they went and visited the Lel city commission made them aware

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that they did not have an official bird. We presented some options for them and asked them to choose one of the birds. And so um I'm just saying we may have some future lobbyists there. They were very effective. The commission was putting in their hands. And what is that bird?

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>> It is the cattle egret, also known as the cowbird. And that's >> Nicholson really wanted the buzzard. >> They did. He really did want. And then they have And then the kids chose the red shoulder hog. But I was like, you know, buddy, like you had to put out if that's the way you wanted to do it, you

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had to tell them this is exactly what I want from you guys. You left the decision up to them and they made a decision like so next time. But it was cute. It was it wasn't it was a fun little exercise and I know the commission I liked it just as much as the kids. So, but I'm looking forward to

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graduation and then um I'm going to reserve my comments and observations on the last graduation ceremony to get everything together and uh and provide some feedback on some perceptions and things that I would like

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to see going forward. But that concludes my comments. >> All right. So I'm hearing you and re distracted drivers have a >> listen. You don't want me doing PBIS and you don't want me driving school bus.

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>> All right. Well, thank you all for coming. This meeting is a journey.